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justtune 06-14-07, 05:59 PM Need help find some FP or DFP that will support native 2k resolution...
If you guys know please help me pleazzzzzzzzze~~~~~~~~~
Model and where can I get one....
Thanks
gpshumway 06-14-07, 06:10 PM Here you go.
http://www.barco.com/corporate/en/products/product.asp?gennr=1718
I think AVS can get one. Pretty sure they could get the Digitalprojection competitor as well.
Oh, and you better bring dollars, lots of them.
justtune 06-14-07, 06:14 PM Are there any other than Barco?
gpshumway 06-14-07, 06:20 PM Digital Projection, NEC, Christie Digital and Panasonic (I think) make such projectors. In the digital world only DLP has a chip with 2048x1080 resolution. Sony and JVC make LCoS projectors with even higher resolution in the same price class. Otherwise, a 9" CRT might do it. What's your application?
justtune 06-14-07, 06:32 PM Doing a project and customer asking me to research all 2k FP or RP monitor for them... and their price. If they decide... $$ for me... :D
2048x1080 1.26 inch dmd requires a big lens and a larger optical engine than a 0.95 dmd at 1920x1080. According to Digital projection their upcoming Lightning projectors will use the smaller chip and you will miss only the higher price from the earlier product. The most important consideration is to get a projector that works with HDCP.
My advice
I see no need for 2048x1080 over 1920x1080.
I suggest Titan pro series2 1080p-600 which is about to hit the market.
gpshumway 06-15-07, 09:43 AM Or the less expensive Titan 1080-250 which is better suited to smaller screens.
The Barco DP100 is excellent for 2k appraisal. I use one to sign off 35mm feature film work.
The next best thing is a sony fw900 monitor properly calibrated which you might be able to pick up for $200 on ebay but there are not that many left in good condition these days.
If its only to view 1080p material rather than exacting native 2k image appraisal then a 2k projector is overkill somewhat. The JVC HD10k is well regarded although personally I don't like them. The RS1 looks better to me even if its less accurate on the colour front.
1920 x 1080 is the standard. Get a 1080p projector that does HDCP
Check out the JVC DLA RS-1
justtune 06-15-07, 11:45 AM Reason for all this research on the 2k res... my customer is testing their new scaler that will be out later this year and they want that scaler to be compatable with all available resolution out there.
so this reason....
Well a DP100 was circa $200000 last time I looked. It might be cheaper for your clients just to ask Barco what the timing requirements are for the projector. Pretty sure ours is dual channel hd-sdi. You won't need that for 8bit video though.
mhafner 06-16-07, 07:37 AM Reason for all this research on the 2k res... my customer is testing their new scaler that will be out later this year and they want that scaler to be compatable with all available resolution out there.
so this reason....
Scaler for which market? Home cinema? Digital commercial cinema?
Glimmie 06-16-07, 01:53 PM Reason for all this research on the 2k res... my customer is testing their new scaler that will be out later this year and they want that scaler to be compatable with all available resolution out there.
so this reason....
You will get a better image simply leaving 1920 material at 1920. The step from 1920 to 2048 is very small. And it is very difficult, in fact not possible to build a filter with the needed poles to generate an artifact free conversion.
2048 is destined for digital cinema use. Anything a home viewer will get is 1920.
gpshumway 06-16-07, 02:33 PM Reason for all this research on the 2k res... my customer is testing their new scaler that will be out later this year and they want that scaler to be compatable with all available resolution out there.
so this reason....
In that case, skip the front projector and just get a Sony FW900 Monitor, or a really high res flat panel which will do native resolution mapping. $600 beats $60,000 any day for this purpose.
You will get a better image simply leaving 1920 material at 1920. The step from 1920 to 2048 is very small. And it is very difficult, in fact not possible to build a filter with the needed poles to generate an artifact free conversion.
2048 is destined for digital cinema use. Anything a home viewer will get is 1920.
Whilst I somewhat agree with what you are saying its usually helpful to address the 2048x1080 panels with an image that fills the panel as much as possible . For scaling I think its really a case of sticking to all the standard video and PC timings and letting the end user specify any end resolution ( within reason) and map the image to it in any way they like. This is usually how the scaling stages on theater grade 2k projectors work , pretty much belt and braces.
justtune 06-19-07, 02:42 PM Scaler for which market? Home cinema? Digital commercial cinema?
Cedia market
justtune 06-19-07, 02:44 PM In that case, skip the front projector and just get a Sony FW900 Monitor, or a really high res flat panel which will do native resolution mapping. $600 beats $60,000 any day for this purpose.
I will look into it...
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