It is true! The 58PX75U will be released. No details on pricing yet, but I do have specs:

Panasonic 58PX75U specs:
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Screen Size 58" diagonal
Screen Aspect 16:9
Displayable Colors 29 Billion
Contrast Ratio 10000:1
Brightness 450cd/m2
Video Standard NTSC, HDTV
Data Signals N/A
TV Scan Lines 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i
TV TUNER
NTSC Tuner Included
ATSC Tuner (HDTV) Included
INPUT TERMINALS
Composite Video 1 (RCA)
S-Video 1 (4-pin mini DIN)
Component Video 1 (RCA x 3)
HDMI Digital Interface 2 (19-pin HDMI interface)
Stereo Audio In 3 (RCA L/R)
OUTPUT TERMINALS
Composite Video 1 (RCA)
Stereo Audio Out 1 (RCA L/R)
ACCESSORIES INCLUDED
Speakers Built In
Mounting Options Pedestal Stand Included
GENERAL
Power Supply 100-120V @ 50-60Hz
Dimensions 56.4 x 36.4 x 4.1
Dimensions w/ Stand 56.1 x 38.4 x 16.3
FCC Class FCC Class B, Home Use

Chrishttp://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=83684&d=1181924183

Interesting. I assume this means for US (all ready known in Canada)? Any word on release timeframe? Those 58px60/600u's may drop even further...

Here was the other thread on the 58px75u:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=856175

No word yet of a release date or pricing. I would guess that street prices will be $2799-$3000, given the prices have dropped on the 58PX60/600U. Also the current price on the 58PX600U is $3299. I will keep you guys informed or if anyone has more info please feel free to join in.

Chris
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I talked with Panasonic Conceirge yesterday. I have called them several times over the last month. The gentleman that I talked to said that this model had now been released in the United States. He could not tell me the MSRP or where I can buy one. Has anyone seen one yet? Does anyone know where I can buy one?

No word yet, but will keep everyone informed...

Chris
MountAVision.com

Looks like Beach Camera have these in stock already. Hopefully the forum sponsors will have them soon.

Just called and they do not have them in stock. Just a typo on their part. Their has been no release date from Panasonic, so I would assume they will be soon, but now.

Chris


Looks like Beach Camera have these in stock already. Hopefully the forum sponsors will have them soon.

This unit will never be in stock, they are no longer releasing it.

It was just added to the parts website about a week ago.

Could post a link? I searched the entire Panasonic website and did not find any info...

Chris


It was just added to the parts website about a week ago.

http://www.pasc.panasonic.com/epartr/

The listing is not yet complete and if they follow past patterns it may be a couple weeks before all the info is up.

Am I missing something, but I can not get nothing to come up...

Chris

Enter "th58p" on the search by model side.
With your mouse click on "List Parts By Model"
Alternately you can enter the full model number in the box but it will only pull up that model.I usually use a partial like "th50p" and it will return a list of all close models.

Any news on a release date?

Chris

The "Costco" version will hit the street first.

TH58PE75U (http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TH58PE75U.PDF)

Any "Firm" pricing info?

No Release date, No Pricing. May never show..........

Will be in Costco distribution center 10/9. Confirmed with buyer in Seattle.
Will be a great TV at a great $$$ $2399.00. Will be 1080i. Is the 1080p really going to worth the price when there will be so little content available?

Will be in Costco distribution center 10/9. Confirmed with buyer in Seattle.
Will be a great TV at a great $$$ $2399.00. Will be 1080i. Is the 1080p really going to worth the price when there will be so little content available?

I think it depends more on your viewing distance than the content available. A viewing distance inside 10' and blu ray or HDDVD is very nice. Prices will continue to plummet on the 1080p panels too so it is a good idea to wait.

Will be in Costco distribution center 10/9. Confirmed with buyer in Seattle.
Will be a great TV at a great $$$ $2399.00. Will be 1080i. Is the 1080p really going to worth the price when there will be so little content available?

Interesting information right here. I had a feeling that they would release them.

Chris

Will be in Costco distribution center 10/9. Confirmed with buyer in Seattle.
Will be a great TV at a great $$$ $2399.00. Will be 1080i. Is the 1080p really going to worth the price when there will be so little content available?
This TV accepts 1080i, as do all HD TV's but it displays it as 1366 x 768. The PZ models display all 1080 input at 1920 x 1080, so it's more than just a 1080i/1080p issue. How far you sit from the screen will determine if you can see the extra detail of the PZ line, but it is there.

So....If you had to pick one of these over the other, which would you choose?

This is great news that Panny will be offering this set as I have no need for 1080p given my viewing distance (13-15'). The Sam's Clubs in my area still have 15-20 of the Pio 6070's available and they're not exactly flying off the shelves (I check their inventory once a week--selling a couple a week). I'll be in the market to purchase in about month or so...I hope there will still be some 6070's left. If they are still available and this new 720p Panny is also available by then, which would you choose and why? Thanks. (I see that Costco will be carrying it...We have no Costco's where I live..Will Sam's ultimately carry it as well?) Thanks.

I wonder if Costco will offer an introductory coupon as they often do with new releases.

Boy, I'm surprised that this thread is getting so little attention. This display seems like a pretty big deal to me. Is there concern because 768P is considered a little weak for a 58"? The 58PX75U is supposed to be at Costco tomorrow with a MSRP $2,000 less then the 58PZ700U. Any idea why they went with the 75U instead of the 77U? I would expect there to be some 50PX60/600 and 50PX75/77 owners out there looking to move up in size.

Andy: I agree....Pioneer chose to ignore this size/type in their model line (by not offering a 6080)...I would bet that Panasonic sells a ton of these given the good reviews that the 50PX75U has gotten...I for one don't need 1080p given my viewing distance....and I'll save some money to boot by not going this route. Now the decision is between this and the Pio 6070....Any thoughts on how they compare. The Pio is just a few dollars under $3k at Sam's...

I waited a long time for this to come out, and gave up. Last month I happened across a 58px60u at Costco and pulled the trigger.

Anyone know how this new model stacks up to last years 60u?

I waited a long time for this to come out, and gave up. Last month I happened across a 58px60u at Costco and pulled the trigger.

Anyone know how this new model stacks up to last years 60u?

They should be extremely similar -- I bought a 50PX75U but almost went with the 600U instead. The biggest difference may be that the anti-glare coating on the 75U is a little more advanced, but the panels are very similar and some even claim that the 60U has better processing.

The 75U I have seems to be able to accept 1080p/24, so I'm not sure if the 60U's do that... but, basically, don't beat yourself up over jumping on the 60U... the PQ difference should be nil.

I just hope it doesn't look like the 60U or the wife will veto. She hates the silver speakers on the bottom. I imagine it will perform just like the 58PH10UK.

Andy:

I was in the same boat as you for the longest time - my wife constantly vetoed because of the silver bezel. I finally convinced her it would give the best bang for the buck, and got it. Funny thing is it actually looks way better than we expected - it blends into the wall better than an all black one would.

Luckily for you, I believe the new model will be dressed in black.

-Gerry

Specs are already out on this unit, however, sources are saying they will be released tomorrow. Its hard to believe, but I guess Andy is right!

Chris

I'm also waiting for this tv, hope it's true that costco will have it this week.

FYI, my wife just called me from Costco and says this TV is now on display.

She said it was mostly black, but did have a silver stripe along the bottom.

FYI, my wife just called me from Costco and says this TV is now on display.

She said it was mostly black, but did have a silver stripe along the bottom.

Can you ask her to take some pics? (of the TV, not herself, of course :D)

I waited a long time for this to come out, and gave up. Last month I happened across a 58px60u at Costco and pulled the trigger.

Anyone know how this new model stacks up to last years 60u?


Of course if you decide to return it, you've got 90 days to do so at Costco.
:)

I just looked at this beauty at Costco. All black with a 2" metal strip along the bottom and a 1/2 inch trim around the rest of the set. Very classy looking display.

Sorry Magnus, she was gone by the time I read your post.

I'll try to get down there as soon as I can, but someone will probably have one in there home before I make it down there. If the only difference is cosmetic, than I don't think I'll bother exchanging mine. But if the price drops or a coupon comes out, I still have about 60 days to make an exchange.

ok, so you guys have confirmed the model number and the TH-58PX75U is out. Best buy normally gets everything first, and they do not have it.

As I mentioned earlier, I saw the 58PX75u this morning at Costco. It has about a 2" silver band along the bottom where the front inputs are located. It has about a 1/2" trim band around the rest of the set. I am assuming that it will perform exactly like the 50PX75U. It looked very impressive and the PQ appeared to be outstanding. There were several in boxes on the floor. I did not think to check a box for dimensions but I wish I had at least thought to check the weight. It is a massive lovely looking display and I want one.

Does anyone know if this has the speaker on bottom or on the side ??? I know the 50px75 had it on the bottom.....I like the thin side speakers on the 50px77u. I'm going to stop by costco after work to check it out......anyone seen this in the bayarea yet ??

As I mentioned earlier, I saw the 58PX75u this morning at Costco. It has about a 2" silver band along the bottom where the front inputs are located. It has about a 1/2" trim band around the rest of the set. I am assuming that it will perform exactly like the 50PX75U. It looked very impressive and the PQ appeared to be outstanding. There were several in boxes on the floor. I did not think to check a box for dimensions but I wish I had at least thought to check the weight. It is a massive lovely looking display and I want one.

If I remember right, the total weight of the box of my 58" 60u was about 140 pounds. I imagine the weight of this unit would be the same.

ok, so you guys have confirmed the model number and the TH-58PX75U is out. Best buy normally gets everything first, and they do not have it.

What's even stranger is that the Panasonic EPP site does not offer this model on their website.

This may be a costco model only. They sometimes get there own product line for some reason.

There's an entry on CNET for this set: http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-th-58px75u/4507-6482_7-32317311.html. Nothing in the way of genuine information though. Still, that wouldn't suggest Costco only to me.

That entry has been on CNET for a while. The release of this set has been rumored for some time, but nothing solid was ever stated until the posts made a few days ago.

This model was prevously in Panasonic's press release early in the year. Then, they cancelled the production of the 720p 58" model. I called Panasonic about 30 days ago, and they confirmed that the line was cancelled.

Then, lo and behold, it turns up at Costco.

At the Costco price point I wonder if Pioneer will wish they brought out the 6080. I also wonder how full Panasonic can keep the Costco pipeline. When you look at the competition in the above 50" range this baby really does kick @##@.

What is the MSRP @ Costco?

Chris

It is rare best buy does not get products first before everyone.......we will see if it is a costo "only" model. If it is not buy the time it fully hits, it will be discontiued as these are about 4 months late as it is, LOL.

Hitachi did introduce there new line up in the 55" "non-1080P Display" <<<Click Here>>> (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=920605)

bump

Curious if anyone thinks this new non 1080p Panny would be a better buy than the Pio 6070 that is still readily available at a couple of my local Sam's Club (currently have 12 or so in stock where I live)? The Pio is selling fat SC for a few dollars less than $3k...Looks like either one is a steal if you don't need 1080p (and I don't)...

Thoughts from the group???

Curious if anyone thinks this new non 1080p Panny would be a better buy than the Pio 6070 that is still readily available at a couple of my local Sam's Club (currently have 12 or so in stock where I live)? The Pio is selling fat SC for a few dollars less than $3k...Looks like either one is a steal if you don't need 1080p (and I don't)...

Thoughts from the group???



Thats a great question, I was debating between the 58 PX60U and the 6070 just a few months ago, and was really bummed that Panny decided to cancel the launch of the new 75U. Not to question the O.P., but are we sure that this Panny is what he thinks it is? I mean the Costco site doesn't have anything at all on them, and the Panny site says nothing as well. It just seems strange to me that there wouldn't be at least something offical.

Curious if anyone thinks this new non 1080p Panny would be a better buy than the Pio 6070 that is still readily available at a couple of my local Sam's Club (currently have 12 or so in stock where I live)? The Pio is selling fat SC for a few dollars less than $3k...Looks like either one is a steal if you don't need 1080p (and I don't)...

Thoughts from the group???

Well I was in the same boat. In the end price was my major motivating factor, so I went with the Panny. The Pio is probably a better set, but I couldn't justify the price difference. Also, if I was spending close to $3k, I would probably increase the the budget another $400-500 and step up to a 1080p set.

EDIT: In reality, it is $3k plus tax, so you wouldn't even have to increase the budget by as much as I initially stated to pick up a 58" 1080p plasma from a forum sponsor.

Can someone pm me the price of this unit. I called Costco and they do not release pricing. Thanks!

Quattro: Scroll up to post #18 and I think you'll find your answer re: Costco price...

Can anyone stroll down to Costco and take a pic of this bad boy? We don't have Costcos in my state or I'd go see it for myself...

I'm pretty excited about this. Hopefully it will also pop up on the Panasonic Direct site.

I'm going to try to go to Costco over lunch tomorrow to see if they have it.

Any new info on this ?? Still nothing on the Costco site.

I went by Costco y'day and saw this TV.....looks pretty good, I couldn't tell if it has the Anti-reflective screen. The model number is 58PE75u not PX, I guess it's exclusive for Costco and I'm not sure if they're planing to release one for outside market.

I just went to Costco over my lunch break. They had the TV on display. The picture looked pretty bad. Blocking and cutting out every 10 seconds. They must have had something screwed up or the signal going to the TV was very weak. It was straight ahead when you walked in the front door, so there was a glare from outside shining right on it. It didn't really distract much though. There wasn't any price tag by it so I'm not sure what it's going for. I would assume it is for what has already been mentioned in the thread.

It must have been a bad feed or a loose connection. The one I saw looked really good. Much better than the Maxent and the Vizio sitting next to it. The 75 screen has some anti glare properties but not as much as the 77 series. The 77 series seems like a better choice but I guess they wanted to keep costs down. Because of the PE designation I do not expect any B&M's or the Panasonic's web site to carry the 768P 58". Of course if they sell well we may see a change of heart. I sense a large audience of people wanting to move up from their current 50" plasma and not caring about 1080P. Just wanting to watch HDTV and regular up converted DVD's.

I'm definitely one of them...I just don't know if I like the silver trim.......would of been nice if it is all black.

I'm definitely one of them...I just don't know if I like the silver trim.......would of been nice if it is all black.


It is kind of odd to just have the bottom trim be silver and black trim on the sides and top.

Is there currently a 58 inch 760 resolution Panasonic in the 77 series (for the anti-glare) available or announced? I don't see anything when i google for one?

I have a 42 plasma now and would love to move up to the 58 before i hang the mount on the wall. My viewing distance is close to 20 feet so the 1080p displays don't seem to be advised from what I've read on the board.

-Wandering_Burr

The box has a weight of 76 Kilos which is about 168 pounds. Don't know how much just the display weighs(from looking at some non-panasonic sites it appears that the other 58 inch units from Panasonic are about 141 pounds, 163 or so with the included stand). The speakers are on the bottom rather than on the sides.

I checked Fry's and they don't have any 58 inch Panasonics in their system other than the 700. They said they normally know about a month before a new set arrives.

With the comments in the thread from forum sponsors saying that 30 days ago Pansonic confirmed no non-1080p displays at this size I'm wondering if this resolution/size combo will turn out to be an exclusive Costco item. I'm sure Costco has been pressuring Panasonic to get a 58 inch Plasma into their chain, but seems like the retail channel would demand an equivelent, or slightly better spec'd TV to compete with.

Should be interesting to see what happens.

Does anyone know if this really has the new anti reflective screen?

does it have PIP?

does it have the cheap speakers or the good speakers?

My Costco has it in the box, not on display so I haven't been able to see it.

Do we think there will be a coupon on it soon?

Does anyone know if this really has the new anti reflective screen?

does it have PIP?

does it have the cheap speakers or the good speakers?

My Costco has it in the box, not on display so I haven't been able to see it.

Do we think there will be a coupon on it soon?
I would love to know this as well.

This may just be the perfect solution to what I am looking for...

wondering if it also has HDMI 1.3 :)

Is there currently a 58 inch 760 resolution Panasonic in the 77 series (for the anti-glare) available or announced? I don't see anything when i google for one?

I have a 42 plasma now and would love to move up to the 58 before i hang the mount on the wall. My viewing distance is close to 20 feet so the 1080p displays don't seem to be advised from what I've read on the board.

-Wandering_Burr


At 20 feet 1080p would be a waste of money IMP. To be honest I've seen little difference between the new 58" 1080p Panny and the 6070 768p at 8 feet much less 20. Don't listen to the 1080p elitests on this board, all the real research done has shown that less than 75% of the people tested could tell the difference between 1080p and 768p at 10 to 15 feet, and only 60% at 5-10 feet. All things being equal, ($$$$) 1080p would be the way to go, but right now it's not equal.

Just bumping this thread to see is anyone has anything new on this??? Costco and Panny still have nothing on this panel on their sites. According to the Panny rep I spoke with, he knew nothing about a new line of 58" 768p panels. according to him Panny has stopped making the consumer version of this panel all together. Is anyone 100% sure we aren't talking about last years models???

Just bumping this thread to see is anyone has anything new on this??? Costco and Panny still have nothing on this panel on their sites. According to the Panny rep I spoke with, he knew nothing about a new line of 58" 768p panels. according to him Panny has stopped making the consumer version of this panel all together. Is anyone 100% sure we aren't talking about last years models???
I saw a couple of them at a few local Costco's in the the Bay Area. They have September 2007 dates on them. The TV is also on costco.com.

I saw a couple of them at a few local Costco's in the the Bay Area. They have September 2007 dates on them. The TV is also on costco.com.
Do you have the link? I was just looking on there and don't see it in the plasma TV's section.

Looks like they took it off their website. It was on there last night. They'll likely put it back on again soon so check again often.

Looks like they took it off their website. It was on there last night. They'll likely put it back on again soon so check again often.

Not that I'm saying I don't belive you, but there just seems to be something wrong with this whole thing. Panny reps say it dosen't exist, Costco has nothing on it, all we have to go on is what a couple of people say they saw??????:confused:

Sorry I'm not a tech endowed kind of guy to give a review or anything but I just wanted to confirm that the set is real because its really up on my wall right now. I picked it up from Costco yesterday in CA when I was shopping for the pani 77u that they have for $1548 right now also. The picture is real nice. I'm not totally new to comparing sets as I looked at just about every set out right now and for the size and price I had to bite. Let me know if you guys have any questions.

Shasta: do a search for 58px75u in the AVS forum and you would find a thread with some pic someone posted.

I did see it last week and the silver trim looks like bit dark compare to the last years model with very bright silver trim......costco website shows the 58px60u and this is not the same one at the store....it's 58PE75u

Shasta: do a search for 58px75u in the AVS forum and you would find a thread with some pic someone posted.

I did see it last week and the silver trim looks like bit dark compare to the last years model with very bright silver trim......costco website shows the 58px60u and this is not the same one at the store....it's 58PE75u

Thanks, but the 58px75u was offically canceled by Panasonic. It just seems like theres alot of conflicting info right now, others in this thread have said it's Black with silver trim along the bottom, you seem to be saying it's Dark gray? Now to further muddy the waters is this 58PE75U that Panny says they aren't making?????

I'm going thru the same thing. I was thinking about getting the 50PC77U but now I'm reconsidering a few things because of the 58" Pani at Costco and the dropping of prices for many HDTV's.

What made you chose the 58" Pani?


Sorry I'm not a tech endowed kind of guy to give a review or anything but I just wanted to confirm that the set is real because its really up on my wall right now. I picked it up from Costco yesterday in CA when I was shopping for the pani 77u that they have for $1548 right now also. The picture is real nice. I'm not totally new to comparing sets as I looked at just about every set out right now and for the size and price I had to bite. Let me know if you guys have any questions.

cursedbat: how does the SD looks on this tv ? how far is you seating ? do you see a lot of pixelation on the non-HD stuff ? I'm on the edge to pull the trigger on this tv or the 1080p version for $1100 more.

Can you take some pic of the tv and post them.....it'll clear out some of our doubts.

thx

I'll try to take some pics here in a bit.

The main point I was considering in picking up a new set was how it looked with SD signal. I watch allot of non HD and non dvd signal so the sets that look great on the floor but like crap when you get them home were not going to work. Thats the reason along with the price and the anti glare I was looking at the 77u. But man when I saw the 58" it was like putting a quarter next to a Penney and the picture looked spot on. I sit about 12 feet back but even at a closer distance noise and pixelation are not a problem.

Some high motion throws me off still but I have been watching a 40" CRT for so many years I just might need to adjust to the big plasma. For the price man I had to get the set. I've looked at them all and it holds up well against many of the higher end sets.

The silver at the bottom is not that bad.

I'll try to take some pics here in a bit.

The main point I was considering in picking up a new set was how it looked with SD signal. I watch allot of non HD and non dvd signal so the sets that look great on the floor but like crap when you get them home were not going to work. Thats the reason along with the price and the anti glare I was looking at the 77u. But man when I saw the 58" it was like putting a quarter next to a Penney and the picture looked spot on. I sit about 12 feet back but even at a closer distance noise and pixelation are not a problem.

Some high motion throws me off still but I have been watching a 40" CRT for so many years I just might need to adjust to the big plasma. For the price man I had to get the set. I've looked at them all and it holds up well against many of the higher end sets.

The silver at the bottom is not that bad.

Have you looked at the 58PH10UK pro version? This is another option.

Chris

I'll try to take some pics here in a bit.

The main point I was considering in picking up a new set was how it looked with SD signal. I watch allot of non HD and non dvd signal so the sets that look great on the floor but like crap when you get them home were not going to work. Thats the reason along with the price and the anti glare I was looking at the 77u. But man when I saw the 58" it was like putting a quarter next to a Penney and the picture looked spot on. I sit about 12 feet back but even at a closer distance noise and pixelation are not a problem.

Some high motion throws me off still but I have been watching a 40" CRT for so many years I just might need to adjust to the big plasma. For the price man I had to get the set. I've looked at them all and it holds up well against many of the higher end sets.

The silver at the bottom is not that bad.

Thanks......I think I'm in for the 58" 720p model for sure......my situation is same as yours....viewing distance is about 12' and more SD viewing than HD...at least not yet, after getting this tv I'll order the direct tv and HD dvd player and I'm set.......damn now I'm really excited.

Hi Creemail,

You bring up an interesting option. I did some searches about the pro-panel and found some answers and thought of some general questions.

First, to get everyone up to speed (and let you correct any misconceptions I may have picked up) here is what i (think i)know about the current pro-display.

The screens are the same as the consumer model (?) but the internal electronics are different at least this year because the consumer sets have consolidated 5 boards into one. The Pro monitor has more settings to adjust picture quality than the consumer models. It is unclear to me whether this is only in the service menu or not. Input options are both more varied and more limiting. They come with s-video, component and d-sub and there is room for one additional 'card' which for most people would be HDMI. But one input for each technology while the consumer model has multiple. The pro display has no speakers or tuner. The Professional panels seem to be well regarded.

Questions:
* If I don't plan on having the set professionally calibrated will the pro panel still have better control of the picture quality?
* Does the pro panel have cooling fans ?
* What type of AR or AG tech does the pro panel have on the screen?
* Is the current panel of the same generation as the 75U series?
* Calibrators seem to like the pro panels better than the consumer line but reviewers seem to think they are both great. In your experience what do pro-sumers and industry insiders think about the two lines when they are compared head to head?

Thanks,
Wandering_Burr

.....Questions:
* If I don't plan on having the set professionally calibrated will the pro panel still have better control of the picture quality?
* Does the pro panel have cooling fans ?
* What type of AR or AG tech does the pro panel have on the screen?
* Is the current panel of the same generation as the 75U series?
* Calibrators seem to like the pro panels better than the consumer line but reviewers seem to think they are both great. In your experience what do pro-sumers and industry insiders think about the two lines when they are compared head to head?

Thanks,
Wandering_Burr

I have the 58ph10uk. Here's how I'd answer your questions:

1. Yes, somewhat. These are "user" menu settings that let you adjust RGB warmth but you can't "scientifcally" maximize the benefit without some calibration equipment. You can however play around and see if your eyes like some settings better than others. Eventually I will get calibrated but its fine without it. I needed very few changes to out of box settings.

2. Fans = yes. Always on. Not intrusive noise however IMHO.

3. Minimal anti-glare/reflection. Mine is in a very open room but reflections are minimal due to having a tilt mount. Its NOT super shiny mirror-like reflective screen IMHO but you'll see some depending on your viewing situation.

4. 10th generation is 10th generation.

5. Not qualified to render an opinion.

Buy. Enjoy.

added:
there are three slots for removable boards, one comes empty and the other two can be switched out. the vga/d-sub (pc in) and rs232 (serial computer monitor type) connections are fixed in place, however

Hi Creemail,

You bring up an interesting option. I did some searches about the pro-panel and found some answers and thought of some general questions.

First, to get everyone up to speed (and let you correct any misconceptions I may have picked up) here is what i (think i)know about the current pro-display.

The screens are the same as the consumer model (?) but the internal electronics are different at least this year because the consumer sets have consolidated 5 boards into one. The Pro monitor has more settings to adjust picture quality than the consumer models. It is unclear to me whether this is only in the service menu or not. Input options are both more varied and more limiting. They come with s-video, component and d-sub and there is room for one additional 'card' which for most people would be HDMI. But one input for each technology while the consumer model has multiple. The pro display has no speakers or tuner. The Professional panels seem to be well regarded.

Questions:
* If I don't plan on having the set professionally calibrated will the pro panel still have better control of the picture quality?
* Does the pro panel have cooling fans ?
* What type of AR or AG tech does the pro panel have on the screen?
* Is the current panel of the same generation as the 75U series?
* Calibrators seem to like the pro panels better than the consumer line but reviewers seem to think they are both great. In your experience what do pro-sumers and industry insiders think about the two lines when they are compared head to head?

Thanks,
Wandering_Burr

GC3.Thanks answering all of the questions. However, to answer your first question wandering_burr most panels out the box are getting better and better. Professional calibration is necessary for the avid user that wants to squeeze out the best picture from their plasma. Most people can live with a display that requires less adjustment. Pop in the AVIA disc and go to town. This is a much cheaper solution than $300-$500 for one display.

Now the great thing about pro displays is that they are geared towards commercial and everyday presentations that demand a great picture. They are great for PC use because of structure of 1:1 pixel mapping to give you a great picture used a PC display. Although consumer models do a fairly good job if you use their HDMI input to get max resolution over VGA.

Overall, if you want simplicity consumer models will give you this. If you want to add as you go, or as I like to say, select by a la carte, pro displays give you that advantage. Sometimes pro displays can be slightly more expensive, but the flexibility, unique picture adjustments, PIP functions, touch screen functions, etc...are possible.

Chris

The Costaco in Nanuet NY carries the TH58PE75U . What is the difference from the TH58PX75 ?

Thanks, GT

The Costaco in Nanuet NY carries the TH58PE75U . What is the difference from the TH58PX75 ?

Thanks, GT

There is no TH58X75.

There is no TH58X75.

The PE version is released now. PX should be released shortly.

Chris

We will see, we will see.

* If I don't plan on having the set professionally calibrated will the pro panel still have better control of the picture quality? You bet it will.
* Does the pro panel have cooling fans ? Yes
* Is the current panel of the same generation as the 75U series? It will be if it ever comes out* Calibrators seem to like the pro panels better than the consumer line but reviewers seem to think they are both great. In your experience what do pro-sumers and industry insiders think about the two lines when they are compared head to head? They are the same panels, but the commercial unit can be tweeked more

Thanks,
Wandering_Burr

Just a note, to get a unit calibrated is not a one time deal, most calibrators will tell you this is something that needs to be done every year.

The PE version is released now. PX should be released shortly.

Chris

According to Panny the PX model is canceled.

I just picked one up from Costco, anyone have any settings to try.

Attention owners of this Pan.
Can the duck feet be reversed to point to the rear instead of front?
Thanks in advance

Attention owners of this Pan.
Can the duck feet be reversed to point to the rear instead of front?
Thanks in advanceNot an owner but you cannot do this due to the one-way design of the base and the upright posts. Doing so would make it very easy for the TV to tip forward - those duck feet add a lot of stability.

Curious why you would want to do this - i'm guessing you want to make it sit closer to the face of an entertainment center . . . . :)

Randy,
you are right! Im trying to keep the eyes as close as possible to the screen.:rolleyes:
I rearranged the family room furniture closer to the tv area the other day. When the wife returned home she said no way. :( So now I guess im back to square one... I really wanted to get 58 780 Pan but now I will still be too far away. Im gonna need a minimum of 65" at 12'! :eek: And if I go with 1080 Ill need a 95"! :eek::eek:
I guess ill have to start looking at those crappy dlps:confused:

Randy,
you are right! Im trying to keep the eyes as close as possible to the screen.:rolleyes:
I rearranged the family room furniture closer to the tv area the other day. When the wife returned home she said no way. :( So now I guess im back to square one... I really wanted to get 58 780 Pan but now I will still be too far away. Im gonna need a minimum of 65" at 12'! :eek: And if I go with 1080 Ill need a 95"! :eek::eek:
I guess ill have to start looking at those crappy dlps:confused:

How about a 65PZ750U? Also another candidate for DLP is the Sony KDS-Z70XBR5. That looks simply amazing.

Chris

I would love to know this as well.

This may just be the perfect solution to what I am looking for...

wondering if it also has HDMI 1.3 :)

me too!

the costco near me has 10 of them. title says it all. thanks JPH

I bought one from Costco last month and the picture quality is outstanding. The brightness is excellent, contrast is nice, and the blacks are very dark. It physically looks great as well. I am very, very happy with the purchase.

daehreppans & subbasshead, you guys are posting in the wrong thread. This thread was created for the 58PX75U which was canceled. Costco sells the 58PE75U. They are basically the same, but the PE is a Costco specific model.

Please post in that thread instead to cut down on confusion.