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lnewey6
06-16-07, 01:06 PM
i recently bought 4 cases of greenglue, walls had already been built using 2 layer of pb before greenglue came out.
as i live in a 1940s brick built house i expected the to be well built,so i decided to rip down the ceiling install rockwoll, furring strips,and 2 layer of pb with gg,also did the walls with one more layer of pb with gg. left it for 4 weeks and to my anger i can still hear next doors bass :mad: as you can tell i am well tits off wasting that much money on greenglue

krasmuzik
06-16-07, 01:15 PM
A brick exterior was already better than the plywood exterior on stick built houses. The problem was never your walls - the problem is old houses are also drafty. The sound is not coming thru the walls - it is leaking in along with the drafts. Sound isolation is never about a product - it is about building a system - which includes no holes in the system.

McCall
06-16-07, 01:55 PM
Yup the green glue was and is not the problem.

Jesse S
06-16-07, 02:00 PM
So you can't just slather green glue on drywall and your room is magically isolated?

This product does suck!!! :D

tlllava
06-16-07, 02:05 PM
Damn! I was hoping that a layer of GG would insolate me from having to listen to the hen-pecking. Guess I'm going to have to go to plan B. :)

cinemascope
06-16-07, 10:29 PM
In cases like this, greater improvements can come from a few cans of expanding foam and a little bit of work removing moldings, window trim, etc.

I took off all of the window trim and applied Dap Tex expanding LATEX foam, and the energy bills went down considerably (which happened to be my motivation at the time).

A side benefit is that the noise from the cars coming down my street has been significantly reduced.

I chose latex foam over great stuff because latex cleans up with soap and water... anyone who has even gotten great stuff on their hands (much less the little hairs on your arms) can attest to the benefit of easy clean up!!

I added a photo from Ace hardware's site in case anyone has a hard time finding the product.

krasmuzik
06-17-07, 12:30 AM
Try a case of of the stuff - I have the old brick house (1939) that the previous owner put in some modern storm windows. Problem is he bought off the shelf windows rather than custom sized to fit the opening. When I ripped off the molding - I had a nice 2" gap underneath it over to the brick - completely open to the plastic sheath that surrounded the window for nailing it down on the outside - which of course the nails had worked loose since he tried to punch them into old brick and the flashing was not tight nor caulked down. He could have fit an entire 2"x4" frame in there to hold the window! Not to mention the moldy shredded newspaper being used for insulation - the exterior wall essentially was used as a drain where later brick remodeling did not join up well..

But I did that foam primarily for the drafts - the foam sets rigid it is not open cell foam used in acoustic treatments - but it will help a bit - I guarantee an old brick house is just as bad as someone leaving the door wide open. I don't worry about the neighbors with the sub - the only one close enough is infill development - thats her problem she decided to build there.

BIGmouthinDC
06-17-07, 08:21 AM
i can still hear next doors bass :mad: as you can tell i am well tits off wasting that much money on greenglue

I think we can all feel your pain. But how about letting us try to help you solve the problem.
How about pictures of the room, details about the construction, the common walls etc.

cinemascope
06-17-07, 11:46 AM
moldy shredded newspaper being used for insulation.
This was the only thing around our windows, too...


But I did that foam primarily for the drafts - the foam sets rigid it is not open cell foam used in acoustic treatments.
Try the DapTex on your next project.... It does NOT dry rock hard like the Great Stuff...

It is still somewhat soft when it is cured, and is likely to be a better product from a sound isolation standpoint. (I am not making any claims in the presence of Kras, Dennis, Terry, etc.!!)

I really happy that I found the stuff. It was on the recommendation of the ACE hardware guy.

This is a perfect exampole of why the old guys in the red aprons at ACE are better than the morons in the Orange or Blue aprons at the mega huge home centers...

lnewey6
06-17-07, 12:35 PM
well basically the contruction is standard timber wall with rockwool double dw plus gg,and furring strips on the ceiling with rockwool double pb and gg and loads of sealent

BamKom
06-17-07, 12:59 PM
HELP HELP HELP... I am brand new to this site as reffered by a coworker who sings accolades about AVSForum. I am building an extension to the house for a dedicated Movie Room and I am looking for some links to instructions on the best way to build the Screen Wall witht he hidden speakers (2 JBL F113-Gloss Subs, 2 B&W 703BA floor speakers and a B&W HTM-7 BL Center Speaker). Is there anyone that can advise me here? The screen is 100 diag. and the projector will be a Runco projector.

Fatawan
06-17-07, 01:14 PM
HELP HELP HELP... I am brand new to this site as reffered by a coworker who sings accolades about AVSForum. I am building an extension to the house for a dedicated Movie Room and I am looking for some links to instructions on the best way to build the Screen Wall .......


Is that a cue for Drin, or what?

BamKom--I'd suggest starting a new thread for your issue, and doing a search of this forum. There are hundreds of screen walls to view here, many with detailed construction photos.

Randito3
06-17-07, 02:11 PM
I used double drywall and green glue in my room and it worked great. When I crank up my system I can still hear the bass outside...of course my bass is set where you seriuosly FEEL it in your seats. The bass is the only thing that escapes the room. When I set it to normal listening everything is quiet as a mouse outside. My next HT will definitely have green glue again.

Bamkon, I added on to my home but I did not go with hidden speakers in screenwall. The addon was easy and the room came out nice. Check my link to see it.

SatelliteGuy
06-17-07, 02:22 PM
I agree! Regular constructin adhesive is $2 per tube and green glue is $14 per tube. I would rather spend that money on better audio equipment or expand my DVD collection.

krasmuzik
06-17-07, 02:48 PM
green glue is not construction adhesive...green glue makes your double drywall better - rather than worse.

Also the green glue tube is nearly 3x larger - so your price comparison is wrong to begin with. But even with that mistake fixed, you can still save up for a bakers dozen discount bin DVD's by using a shelf full of the liquid nails instead of a case of GG only to make your walls worse not better. And this assumes you did not get in on their frequent AVS discount sales - fewer discount bin DVD's in that case...or decide to take a small hit in performace and use only one GG tube per sheet - then you saved up for no DVDs and a worse wall.

http://www.greengluecompany.com/greenGlue-vs-ConstructionAdhesive.php

If you have drafty windows, doors, outlets, and HVAC - you don't have a sealed room. GG/DD is a complete waste of money if the sound leaks out (or in) other than the wall itself. 1940's brick houses may be well built - but they are absolutely drafty.

SatelliteGuy
06-17-07, 05:55 PM
Perhaps you are right Krasmuzik, but can you actually hear the difference in sound quality by using green glue or even two layers of drywall for that matter? I guess what scares me is that I have seen pictures on this forum of damaged cartons of green glue. Does this company actually stand behind their product and reimburse you for damage tubes? Perhaps if Green Glue was made available at Home Depot, Lowes and other home centers at a lower price, I would be more likely to use the product.

krasmuzik
06-17-07, 06:40 PM
Distribution of such a product thru home centers makes little economic sense - the same with other sound isolation products - which are more frequently used in commercial construction not home construction. When was the last time you saw an acoustic isolation test on liquid nails? Those tests just add to the expense of the product. Add up the number of people with HT you know off AVS - now what % of those have a clue about sound isolation? How many home builders and architects do you know that retain acoustical engineer consultants? Simple supply and demand economics - more acoustically isolated HTs in the market means more market in which to fund more testing and engineering - but until then it is only the acoustical engineers and AVSers that even know about the product.

You will not find a lower price for it other than AVS discounts - even CEDIA dealers looking to get you a break. This is not a high markup product. Construction materials never are - though any commercial drywaller will charge you a labor fortune if they knew what they were getting into with the GreenGlue compared to their normal hang & bang.

I have customer living in a major traffic zone - highway truckers, river tuggers, F15 scramblers, BlackHawk helos, and freight trains. I literally had to open the door to figure out the freight train was going by - it was messing up my low level mike readings but was below my threshold of hearing. A similar HT designed without acoustic isolation a similar distance from the same railroad tracks - you can indeed hear it go by.

There is a huge difference in ambient noise between the HT (which is scary quiet) and the rest of his house. But the HT was carefully designed to avoid any flanking noise or leaks, he hired a commercial drywaller who understand isolation practices - and his carpenter thought the acoustic engineer on the job was being an anal PITA.

mass damping is an accepted acoustical engineering practice - that is what green glue does - it is not snake oil - but ANY acoustical isolation product can be defeated with flanking issues. That is not a product fault - but a system design and construction fault. If you want to compare acoustic isolation products - then you need certified third party lab results showing wall assemblies with the sole difference being that product. GreenGlue has gone out of their way to do that with various other products including those never tested by the manufacturer themselves. Which is why they get the respect they deserve from acoustic engineers whose reputation depends on it doing what it claimed.

W00lly
06-17-07, 07:18 PM
I think Greenglue has fixed the damaged carton problems they are now packed with foam on top and bottom

drin
06-17-07, 07:52 PM
Is that a cue for Drin, or what?

My reputation preceeds me. :)

-drin

mbgonzomd
06-17-07, 08:04 PM
Is that a cue for Drin, or what?



Same exact thought went through my head.

drin
06-17-07, 08:23 PM
Same exact thought went through my head.

If I had a dime for every time my name goes through someone's mind...

I'd have two dimes.

-drin

McCall
06-17-07, 09:05 PM
Perhaps you are right Krasmuzik, but can you actually hear the difference in sound quality by using green glue or even two layers of drywall for that matter? I guess what scares me is that I have seen pictures on this forum of damaged cartons of green glue. Does this company actually stand behind their product and reimburse you for damage tubes? Perhaps if Green Glue was made available at Home Depot, Lowes and other home centers at a lower price, I would be more likely to use the product.


Can you hear the difference? you bet your booty you can. Now it all depends on whether you are trying for sound control as in not letting sound OUT or unwanted sound IN rather than the acoustics of the room and quality of the sound you are hearing in the room. that is a whole different kettle of fish. GG is to control the sound escaping or entering your room. and it does make a big difference when used in conjuction with the other sound control practices.

ecrabb
06-18-07, 02:06 AM
i recently bought 4 cases of greenglue, walls had already been built using 2 layer of pb before greenglue came out.
as i live in a 1940s brick built house i expected the to be well built,so i decided to rip down the ceiling install rockwoll, furring strips,and 2 layer of pb with gg,also did the walls with one more layer of pb with gg. left it for 4 weeks and to my anger i can still hear next doors bass :mad: as you can tell i am well tits off wasting that much money on greenglue
You've started a total of 12 different threads and made almost 30 posts regarding your "soundproofing" project. In every post, your questions were vague and your grammar lazy. That, combined with a total lack of punctuation made it difficult or impossible for others to understand what you were asking, much less provide the basis for an informed response to a question. To be brutally honest, looking back at all those posts, this post about your situation doesn't surprise me.

Really, it looks to me like you don't understand sound isolation enough to ask the right questions, let alone DIY-build a decent-performing sound isolation system. If you had taken the time to actually engage the help of a professional, you'd know that a few layers of plasterboard and some GreenGlue aren't going to stop loud low frequency sounds - especially in a mechanically-coupled shared wall. Period.

Clearly, it's unfortunate that you spent a lot of money and effort to rebuild a ceiling and add a layer to your walls, but after reading this thread, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for you.

Just for the record, I'd like to add that I'm really impressed with the performance of the double drywall/Green Glue wall assembly in my theater. Even though I didn't use any other means of mechanical isolation (firring strips, RSIC clips, hat channel, etc.), all but the loudest/lowest LFE is VERY well attenuated. At reasonable volumes, nothing but a low rumble is audible ("feelable"?) in the room above the theater. That was exactly my desired level of performance given my budget. So, from my experience, Green Glue isn't garbage at all, but is an excellent product and does exactly what the manufacturer claims. Of course, I didn't have any unrealistic expectations for it, so that may have something to do with my satisfaction.

SC

lnewey6
06-18-07, 03:43 AM
If I Needed Elecusion Lessons I Will Let You Know :d
Regarding Your Out Burst About My Views On Greenglue If I Say It Doesnt Work Then It Hasn't Worked. But Thankyou For Your Comment I Will Be Taken Into Account When I Decide To Have Another Go At It....

Thankyou To Everyone Else Who Has Replied To My Post It Is Much Appreciated. ;)

drin
06-18-07, 04:54 AM
Regarding Your Out Burst About My Views On Greenglue If I Say It Doesnt Work Then It Hasn't Worked.

"It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools".

-drin

lnewey6
06-18-07, 06:32 AM
i think i might of got my room wrong after reading other peoples threads. i noticed that all the walls need to be treated, i only did the shared wall and the ceiling. is their any thing i can do to the other walls, and forgive my rant about green glue it must work its just me not doing it properly :confused:

Dennis Erskine
06-18-07, 07:06 AM
The Green Glue is working exactly as it should assuming it was installed correctly.

Given a perfectly sealed room with GG that you cannot hear speech between from outside the room. Make a 1/8" x 12" gap or crack in the barrier and you can near hear speech between the rooms to the same degree as if nothing had been done to treat the room.

If you have holes in your wall, floor, or ceiling (electrical outlets, light switches, light fixtures, etc.) the problem is not the GG ... it is poor isolation design and you still have work to do. You need to throw some money at a professional sound isolation expert to help you out. Otherwise, you'll be throwing money at your project with continuing disappointing results.

foolsandkings
06-18-07, 07:30 AM
The Green Glue is working exactly as it should assuming it was installed correctly.

Given a perfectly sealed room with GG that you cannot hear speech between from outside the room. Make a 1/8" x 12" gap or crack in the barrier and you can near hear speech between the rooms to the same degree as if nothing had been done to treat the room.

If you have holes in your wall, floor, or ceiling (electrical outlets, light switches, light fixtures, etc.) the problem is not the GG ... it is poor isolation design and you still have work to do. You need to throw some money at a professional sound isolation expert to help you out. Otherwise, you'll be throwing money at your project with continuing disappointing results.

Yet another chain as strong as its weakest link.

indyjnr
06-18-07, 09:13 AM
At the end of the day you want to add as much mass as you can so maybe you should consider using some sort of sound check drywall, 2 layers of 13mm dense drywall and rockwool should do the job.

Im not using green glue as its hard to get down under and the dense drywall has around the same or higher rw ratings as gg.

ecrabb
06-18-07, 11:04 AM
If I Needed Elecusion Lessons I Will Let You Know :d
What does elOcution have to do with it? I have no idea how you speak in public! :rolleyes:

Regarding Your Out Burst About My Views On Greenglue If I Say It Doesnt Work Then It Hasn't Worked.

I'd hardly call it an outburst. All I was trying to do was get a point across to you... which still doesn't seem to be working.

By your logic, if I bought a screwdriver to hammer nails, and it doesn't work worth a crap to hammer nails, then the screwdriver is obviously rubbish. If I say it didn't work, then it didn't. That's daft, isn't it?

The problem isn't the Green Glue; it's that your sound isolation strategy didn't achieve your sound isolation goals. Even in some of your threads late last year and early this year where you were researching the subject, people mentioned the fact that Green Glue would only be a part of a larger isolation strategy.

If you had posted that things didn't turn out the way you were hoping and that perhaps, you needed some more assistance with your project you'd be getting somewhere. I wouldn't be trying to hammer a point home to you, either.

As others have mentioned, your isolation is only as good as the weakest part of the system. You simply have no reason to impugn the quality of Green Glue given what it sounds like your trying to accomplish and how you went about addressing it.

The reality is that you spent a lot of time and money without enlisting professional help. You (predictably) didn't accomplish your goal, and now you're looking for somebody or something to blame. Unfortunate, indeed.

SC

spot
06-18-07, 11:10 AM
A ship can have a 6" steel hull but if the propeller shaft leaks, It can still sink.
Ed Handley. thought for the day.

SatelliteGuy
06-18-07, 12:37 PM
But how can you tell if it is the green glue or the fact that a dual layer of drywall was applied?

This new 1/2" drywall delivers the same noise reduction as eight sheets of standard gypsum:

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&ndmConfigId=1000021&newsId=20070530005034&newsLang=en

SatelliteGuy
06-18-07, 12:41 PM
Quiet Glue could also be used instead of Green Glue:

http://www.quietsolution.com/html/quietglue.html

ecrabb
06-18-07, 01:17 PM
But how can you tell if it is the green glue or the fact that a dual layer of drywall was applied?
Because there is plenty of independent data that compares the two.

This new 1/2" drywall delivers the same noise reduction as eight sheets of standard gypsum:
A press release is just a press release, and that statement is so general as to be practically useless in the context of sound isolation for home theater. Let's see some prices and independent test results of the QuietRock product and then we intelligently discuss the relative value of a product.

The Green Glue Company has plenty of independent test data which show how the product performs in a plethora of different applications and compared with other types of assemblies. Not coincidentally, they don't say their product will do anything that it doesn't do.

SC

Bimmeup
06-18-07, 05:02 PM
I have to say that the GG has worked great for me! I ended up using RSIC clips on all walls and ceiling along with 2 layers of drywall with the GG. While doing this though, I was carefull to make sure that all other areas (outlets, etc.) were not going to leak sound out and took extra precausion to keep them sealed. Like others on here have stated, the only way I can hear sound outside the theater is from the doorway area (because no doors are perfectly soundproof), and only if I pump up the Klipsch THX Ultras up to a numbing level and even then, it's only the rumbling bass that kinda comes through. And even with the bass coming through, it's only mildly audible.

My 2 cents about GG,


Bimmeup
Matt

Brian Ravnaas
06-19-07, 02:42 PM
hey lnewey

lots of good advice above, and i haven't had time this afternoon to browse it all and make sure that i'm not saying anything that hasn't been said before, but

do you know the construction of the exterior walls, or the total top-to-bottom construction of the cieling that you wound up with?

That is a really important step in deciding what to select for a construction, and it might be of some use to help you out now.


GG adds performanc,e it doesn't make it absolute. GG will improve (lots of tests on this) basically any assembly quite a bit, but there may certainly be cases where it isn't of great value. We are never shy about stating the times when our product isn't ideal, or qualifying our comments as a "best guess" if we really don't concretely know.

But always start when you have a construction that SHOULD be good, but isn't, by looking for flanking. In this order

1. seals
2. doors/windows
3. ductowrk/other openings

Once i measured an STC=44 for a 12" thick masonary wall (double leaf). Just taking some caulk, and a small ladder, and caulking the cracks that i found on just one side of this raised this to 58. I have no doubt that a more thorough job of stopping the direct leaks (which was done, but not by me) probalby improved it quite a bit more.

Mr. Welsh
06-20-07, 12:55 AM
But how can you tell if it is the green glue or the fact that a dual layer of drywall was applied?

This new 1/2" drywall delivers the same noise reduction as eight sheets of standard gypsum:

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&ndmConfigId=1000021&newsId=20070530005034&newsLang=en

Although I don't want to call the whole thing BS because I know nothing about the product, it seems obvious that something is being greatly exaggerated here. Construction products are becoming more high tech every day, but that seems like a ridiculous claim for gypsum board.

After poking around for a few minutes, I see that they claim the same "hangs and finishes like standard drywall" for their flagship product, the 545THX.

That product is 1 3/8" thick and a 4x8 sheet weighs 173lbs. Heh.

jpa3d
06-20-07, 07:05 AM
Inewey6, Is by chance english your second language?

lnewey6
06-20-07, 07:29 AM
thats it more piss takers :p yes i do speak very good english.

SUPPOSE YOUR ARE PERFECT THEN :D

krasmuzik
06-20-07, 01:20 PM
Although I don't want to call the whole thing BS because I know nothing about the product, it seems obvious that something is being greatly exaggerated here. Construction products are becoming more high tech every day, but that seems like a ridiculous claim for gypsum board.

After poking around for a few minutes, I see that they claim the same "hangs and finishes like standard drywall" for their flagship product, the 545THX.

That product is 1 3/8" thick and a 4x8 sheet weighs 173lbs. Heh.

Well their QR510 IS 100lbs lighter....but they have not posted any data/test sheets on this QR516 yet.

With companies that use certified independent third party labs you can ignore such marketing claims and just use the TL curves or at least STC - but that has to be compared to the same assembly with/without the product. In this case replacing same size drywall for the product . I only see STC for their product in various assemblies and against other products in basic wall on the datasheets - but don't see their TL - but their lab reports for that are here http://www.quietsolution.com/html/test_reports.html - and the QR516 is not up yet. Their press suggests a low price - but the datasheet says in volume qty see your dealer. Is a typical HT considered volume?

I am sure it is a soundly engineered product - but for HT we want to know the TL for the dollar and how much free or contract labor it will cost, and how easy or hard the product is to get. As I mentioned earlier - this category of product is not a home warehouse stock - much as their manufacturers might like them to be.

krasmuzik
06-20-07, 01:25 PM
thats it more piss takers :p yes i do speak very good english.

SUPPOSE YOUR ARE PERFECT THEN :D

Your posts do suggest you are overseas (piss, plaster, timber are not US venacular) - so people were just trying to see if maybe there is a communication issue ... while it could be argued if UK or US english is the 'good' english - that is another topic.

If you want to piss on Brian you can - but you are pissing on the guy that developed the product who just gave you excellent advice for troubleshooting what went wrong with your build - he and his boss have always been good about giving individual advice on how to build it right. But if you think you will get somewhere with all the piss and vinegar - keep trying and see if someone feels sorry enough to help you. Myself I go take a shower when I've been pissed on - then go quaff a pint.

mbgonzomd
06-20-07, 02:19 PM
Enough pints and then you will technically be "pissed." :D (I always loved that expression. It should definitely be used more on this side of the ocean.)

Fatawan
06-20-07, 02:26 PM
thats it more piss takers :p yes i do speak very good english.

SUPPOSE YOUR ARE PERFECT THEN :D

All your base are belong to us

drin
06-20-07, 03:30 PM
Enough pints and then you will technically be "pissed." :D (I always loved that expression. It should definitely be used more on this side of the ocean.)

I think you're in the U.S., right? In that case, it is used on this side of the ocean - it's a common enough phrase in the 'excess alcohol' sense in western Canada where I grew up, and that's on this side of the ocean. :)

-drin

Dennis Erskine
06-20-07, 04:49 PM
It is also used frequently in Hull. :)

chinaclipper
06-20-07, 04:55 PM
All your base are belong to us
I LOVED that.....

Maybe we should say "All your BASS are belong to us (http://www.allyourbasearebelongtous.com/)" eh?
Best,

Tom
Chinaclipper

mbgonzomd
06-20-07, 05:55 PM
I think you're in the U.S., right? In that case, it is used on this side of the ocean - it's a common enough phrase in the 'excess alcohol' sense in western Canada where I grew up, and that's on this side of the ocean. :)

-drin

You crazy Canadians! I had only heard the expression when in Europe. Once again, I show my ignorance ;)

McCall
06-20-07, 06:28 PM
Pretty common in most parts of the US as well. At least the parts I have been in.

BritInVA
06-20-07, 06:34 PM
Me likes getting Pi$$ed - Burp :eek:

mbgonzomd
06-20-07, 07:42 PM
OK, come on guys (and gals, McCall). "Pissed" is not a common expression in the US. I am just not buying it. Since this is a HT forum, someone tell me one American movie where the expression "pissed" is used to describe someone getting drunk :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Brit, you got my back on this one, right?

Dennis, where is Hull? Is that in Hull, Ireland? :p

(For some reason, I sense this thread is currently a little off topic, but it is an entertaining topic. :D )

Stew4msu
06-20-07, 07:46 PM
I've traveled extensively around the US and Canada over the last 20 years. The only places I've heard the term "pissed" in regards to being drunk is when I've been in Canada. I've never heard it used in the US. That's not to say it's never been uttered in the US, just that it's far from common.

mbgonzomd
06-20-07, 07:51 PM
That's what I am talking about, Stew!

McCall
06-20-07, 08:15 PM
Well It certainly is used on Cape Cod. I have 4 sons and they are often pissed and so are their friends. terms like "He was pissed out of his mind"
I can't believe you don't realize what a common term it is here.

of course it also means angry as in well and truely pissed. but I often hear it used for drunk.

Mr. Welsh
06-20-07, 08:19 PM
Pissed means angry in the US, not drunk.

Dennis Erskine
06-20-07, 08:31 PM
Dennis, where is Hull?
Hull, PQ. Just across the river from Ottawa. A favorite pub crawl location for those working in downtown Ottawa.

BritInVA
06-20-07, 08:43 PM
In UK it does have dual meaning.......(check out Answers.com (http://www.answers.com/topic/pissed) )

pissed (pĭst)
adj. Vulgar Slang.
1. Extremely irritated or angry. Often used with off.
2. Chiefly British. Intoxicated; drunk.

And if your 'extremly drunk your 'Pissed as a Newt' - Too drunk to walk straight. Reference to the natural wobbling gait of a newt.

Now you could say I'm spouting Gobshite but gawd blimmey mate I'm telling the Babe Ruth :D

Cheers,
Mark

mbgonzomd
06-20-07, 09:06 PM
Thanks Mark,

Chiefly British. Case closed. Now everyone (in the US) try to use it in a sentence this week. Drunk, not angry that is :)

McCall
06-20-07, 10:13 PM
Thanks Mark,

Chiefly British. Case closed. Now everyone (in the US) try to use it in a sentence this week. Drunk, not angry that is :)

Well then it seems that Massachusetts is being retaken by the British then I have heard it used in that context, Drunk :p for years, as I said I have also heard it used for angry. :mad:

tachyon
06-20-07, 10:16 PM
I for one will start using the term 'pissed' for drunk.

It'll be like last year when I discovered 'Tits up'

:D

Stew4msu
06-20-07, 10:38 PM
Well It certainly is used on Cape Cod. I have 4 sons and they are often pissed and so are their friends. terms like "He was pissed out of his mind"
I can't believe you don't realize what a common term it is here.

of course it also means angry as in well and truely pissed. but I often hear it used for drunk.

My family uses a lot of expressions (some I can't write here). That doesn't mean they're common.

drin
06-21-07, 05:53 AM
My family uses a lot of expressions (some I can't write here). That doesn't mean they're common.

I lived on the Cape for three years after I moved from Canada to the U.S. It was pretty common to hear the phrase there.

And I've never met grandmother McCall's family, so it can't be that!

:D

-drin

Fatawan
06-21-07, 07:59 AM
Now that we are firmly off topic, use this link to be able to translate BritinVA's Brit-speak!

http://www.sydesjokes.com/ProfanasaurusA.html

mbgonzomd
06-21-07, 08:13 AM
Ohhhh, so that is Mark was saying :D

I don't see "tits up" on there. What does it mean?

BritInVA
06-21-07, 08:14 AM
There are a few meanings for 'Tits Up' - 'fall over' or 'broken'

Fatawan
06-21-07, 08:25 AM
In veterinary lingo, it means dead!

Vincent Kennedy
06-21-07, 10:11 AM
All I can say is I'l be really pissed if I don't get good and pissed this weekend. Don't worry though I wont drive - don't want to end tits up...

mbgonzomd
06-21-07, 12:01 PM
I will tell you what. If there ever was a thread worthy of being a sticky, this is it!

BritInVA
06-21-07, 12:24 PM
Now do you know the next stage of being 'pissed' is to be 'completely arseholed' usually followed by some 'Pavement pizza'. Not sure if its the Brits obsession with drinking but we have many other words for drunk - like plastered, rats arsed, sloshed to name a few. Now you might think I'm talking 'codswallop' but I wouldn't "diddle' me 'chinas' on AVS - thats the 'babe ruth'.

Now what gets me about Americans is why you talk about your 'fanny' in public. If you ask me thats just plain rude, I certinely would not talk about my 'John Thomas' in public. But I guess thats 'horse for courses'

If you want to look up some nice British slang check out http://www.effingpot.com/slang.shtml and 'Bob's your uncle'

Cheers,
Mark

tachyon
06-21-07, 01:01 PM
This one made me giggle like a school girl

Bees Knees - This is the polite version of the dog's bollocks

I'm going to start using that in the office!

'Well jee wiz Mark, aren't you just the dog's bollocks!'

McCall
06-21-07, 01:13 PM
The one that always floored me and still does is "Keep your Pecker UP" Boy does that one mean different things on opposite sides of the Pond!

Dennis Erskine
06-21-07, 03:50 PM
....then you can knock up your girl friend, get pissed together, give her a ride, and then stuff her in the bonnet so your wife won't see her.

mbgonzomd
06-21-07, 04:30 PM
I'm going to start using that in the office!

'Well jee wiz Mark, aren't you just the dog's bollocks!'

--Technically speaking it means testicles but is typically used to describe something that is no good (that's bollocks) or that someone is talking rubbish (he's talking bollocks). Surprisingly it is also used in a positive manner to describe something that is the best, in which case you would describe it as being "the dog's bollocks".--

So the translation would be: "Well jee wiz Mark, aren't you just the dog's testicles" It makes sense that this would be a compliment :D

drin
06-21-07, 04:46 PM
Phew. All this talk of slang has left me knackered.

-drin

tachyon
06-21-07, 04:52 PM
--Technically speaking it means testicles but is typically used to describe something that is no good (that's bollocks) or that someone is talking rubbish (he's talking bollocks). Surprisingly it is also used in a positive manner to describe something that is the best, in which case you would describe it as being "the dog's bollocks".--

So the translation would be: "Well jee wiz Mark, aren't you just the dog's testicles" It makes sense that this would be a compliment :D

I was thinking I would use it in a 'look I'm being sarcastic/nice to you'. There's a guy in the shop that spent 4 years in England, so he might get the joke.

BritInVA
06-21-07, 05:46 PM
So the translation would be: "Well jee wiz Mark, aren't you just the dog's testicles" It makes sense that this would be a compliment :D

I dunno Gonzo I thought you were one of me Chinas. I'll put the lapse down to the polyurethane you have been sniffing ya Tosser. :D

mbgonzomd
06-21-07, 08:20 PM
Ain't nothin but a thang, Mark, you my dog.

And, yes, huffing poly is my explanation for all the stupidity I can muster for the next week or two ;)

Cathan
06-22-07, 09:52 AM
Certainly the Brits don't have the market cornered on talking incohierently. Although movies most Guy Ritchie movies ought to come with subtitles. ;)

Fo shizzle my ...

murph914
06-22-07, 05:42 PM
I hear this all the time:

a) Dude I got pissed drunk last weekend :)
b) Wicked Pisha!

(I used to work for Tweeter in Hyannis, MA)

JonDotCom
06-24-07, 12:35 PM
Hey, so why didn't you use quiet glue in-stead? :p :eek:

It's the bestest out there!