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beatboy77
06-19-07, 02:55 PM
Anchor Bay/Starz has gone Blu-ray Exclusive.

New Blu-ray Disc announcements from MGM at the Sixth Annual Home Entertainment Summit: DVD & Beyond in Century City, Calif., didn’t come as a huge surprise.

A new participant in the high-definition format war was unexpected, however.

Starz Home Entertainment President Bill Clark announced during an executive session with MGM VP of Marketing Julia Simmons that his company will release the first season of the company’s “Masters of Horror” collection on Blu-ray in the fourth quarter of this year. Other Starz catalogue titles also are in line for a Blu-ray release. The news came the same day that Blockbuster announced that Blu-ray would be the only high-definition disc available in some of its stores.

“If Blu-ray wins [the format war against HD DVD], all catalogue would go [Blu-ray], we’d hope,” Clark said.

http://www.homemediaretailing.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?sec_id=2&&article_ID=10786

~Josh

ottscay
06-19-07, 02:58 PM
awesome...although a link would be good :D

Edit: lol you beat me to it. Cool!

GeorgeLV
06-19-07, 03:05 PM
Can we stick a fork in it? The format war is done.

Dave-Blu-Ray
06-19-07, 03:06 PM
Anchor Bay/Starz has gone Blu-ray Exclusive.



http://www.homemediaretailing.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?sec_id=2&&article_ID=10786

~Josh


Haha. You beat me with 4 minutes :)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=863664

ShagMan
06-19-07, 03:07 PM
I can finally replace my Hellraiser Tin!

Can somebody post some catalog highlights?

The main highlights I can think of would be Hellraiser and Evil Dead movies, all of which are pretty dang grainy, low quality movies... is there any "top tier" movies that AB holds that'd be cool to have on BR? Somebody give me some excitement!

Abdomen
06-19-07, 03:10 PM
Can we stick a fork in it? The format war is done.
At 1/1000 the market size of DVD? Then I guess it really was a tempest in a teacup. :rolleyes:

Lee Stewart
06-19-07, 03:11 PM
Gee Beatboy:

Guess you forgot this paragraph from your article:

“If Blu-ray wins [the format war against HD DVD], all catalogue would go [Blu-ray], we’d hope,” Clark said.

This sounds like their Master of Horror Series is being released on BD only.

I don't see the word "exclusive" in your article.

Just more of your FUD

beatboy77
06-19-07, 03:12 PM
Gee Beatboy:

Guess you forgot this paragraph from your article:

“If Blu-ray wins [the format war against HD DVD], all catalogue would go [Blu-ray], we’d hope,” Clark said.

This sounds like their Master of Horror Series is being released on BD only.

I don't see the word "exclusive" in your article.

That line is in the OP. I will wait for your apology.

~Josh

ottscay
06-19-07, 03:13 PM
At 1/1000 the market size of DVD? Then I guess it really was a tempest in a teacup. :rolleyes:

It's always been a battle to see who would win the public consciousness title of "next gen format". It has to be decided early, because consumers won't mass-adopt a media distribution format in the middle of a format war. And it is indeed lookng good for Blu-ray, especially if they have a few more big announcements this week.

dpags
06-19-07, 03:17 PM
Can somebody post some catalog highlights?



Off the top of my head:

Halloween
Heathers
Romero's Dawn of The Dead series
Hills Have Eyes
21 Jump Street
Sleepaway Camp(s)

beatboy77
06-19-07, 03:17 PM
What?

You want me to apologize to you, for you putting the word "exclusive" in your Thread Title when it doesn't appear in the article?

You have got to be kidding me!

No, I want you to appologize for claiming the quote in the OP did not include what you claimed it did not.

As far as exclusivity goes, wouldn't Clark have mentioned HD-DVD as well if they intended to releases in HD-DVD? Common sense tells us they are Blu-ray EXCLUSIVE.

~Josh

Lee Stewart
06-19-07, 03:20 PM
No, I want you to appologize for claiming the quote in the OP did not include what you claimed it did not.

As far as exclusivity goes, wouldn't Clark have mentioned HD-DVD as well if they intended to releases in HD-DVD? Common sense tells us they are Blu-ray EXCLUSIVE.

~Josh

What about this part of the article:

“If Blu-ray wins [the format war against HD DVD], all catalogue would go [Blu-ray], we’d hope,” Clark said.

I see the words "if" and "hope"

This is not like Fox or Universal or Disney.

donricouga
06-19-07, 03:22 PM
Cool ! But what series or movies do they make ?

beatboy77
06-19-07, 03:23 PM
What about this part of the article:

“If Blu-ray wins [the format war against HD DVD], all catalogue would go [Blu-ray], we’d hope,” Clark said.

I see the words "if" and "hope"

This is not like Fox or Universal or Disney.

I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree :) If we hear anything from Starz that mentions them having plans to release on HD-DVD I will admit I was incorrect.

Eitherway I am very happy this stupid format war is nearing an end.

~Josh

Lee Stewart
06-19-07, 03:24 PM
If you want to change your title to:

Anchor Bay/Starz Goes BD - For Now

I would accept that 100% because that is what the article is saying.

beatboy77
06-19-07, 03:26 PM
Here is a link to some of their better selling DVD's:

http://www.cduniverse.com/sresult.asp?style=movie&HT_Search=xlabel&HT_Search_Info=Anchor+Bay

~Josh

Jackinbox
06-19-07, 03:27 PM
Starz (Anchor Bay) isn't doing HD-DVD......let them keep dreaming Beatboy. It's not worth arguing about with these people. They will run over any press release with a fine-tooth comb looking for one word or sentence that gives them a glimmer of hope.

Tolstoi
06-19-07, 03:28 PM
Good summary of who they are.

Not having them on HD DVD will definitively kill that format ;)

donricouga
06-19-07, 03:29 PM
Here is a link to some of their better selling DVD's:

http://www.cduniverse.com/sresult.asp?style=movie&HT_Search=xlabel&HT_Search_Info=Anchor+Bay

~Josh

Sweet !
haha Street Fighter II : The animated Movie.
Thanks for the list beatboy

donricouga
06-19-07, 03:29 PM
If you want to change your title to:

Anchor Bay/Starz Goes BD - For Now

I would accept that 100% because that is what the article is saying.

We should also recognize Universal as HDDVD exlusive - For now :D

ShagMan
06-19-07, 03:31 PM
OK, I got bored... some of these rights have expired, moved to other companies (Black Hole went back to Disney, Army of Darkenss to Universal, Suspiria to Weinstien bro's), but these few selections out of their 450 or so movies that they took part in, should give you a pretty good idea of what AB offers... mostly campy horror movies, but there's a few classics in there too.

Django (1966)
Straw Dogs (1971)
The Wicker Man (1973)
Trilogy of Terror (1975)
Suspiria (1977)
Dawn of the Dead (1978)
Halloween (1978)
The Black Hole (1979)
Inferno (1980)
The Devil and Max Devlin (1981)
Condorman (1981)
Time Bandits (1981)
The Beastmaster (1982)
The Evil Dead (1981)
Sleepaway Camp (1983)
Children of the Corn (1984)
Supergirl (1984)
The Philadelphia Experiment (1984)
C.H.U.D. (1984)
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
Gojira (1984)
Return to Oz (1985)
Day of the Dead (1985)
Highlander (1986)
SpaceCamp (1986)
Raw Deal (1986)
Maximum Overdrive (1986)
The Wraith (1986)
Evil Dead II (1987)
Hellraiser (1987)
License to Drive (1988)
Hellbound: Hellraiser II (1988)
Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (1988)
Army of Darkness (1992)
Raptor Island (2004)
Man with the Screaming Brain (2005)

Paul Arnette
06-19-07, 03:36 PM
beatboy77,

Is this the 'big' announcement you alluded to earlier this week or unrelated?

It would be excellent if there was more good news in store for Blu-ray Disc this week. :)

beatboy77
06-19-07, 03:36 PM
Here are some better known Anchor Bay/Starz releases:

Phantasm
Philadelphia Experiment
License To Drive
Tripping the Rift
Evil Dead
Dawn of the Dead
Xena (TV)
Highlander
Halloween
Creepshow
Three's Comapny (TV)
Time Bandits
Roseanne (TV)
Master's of Horror (TV)
Thomas & Friend (Childrens)
Heathers
Beastmaster

~Josh

beatboy77
06-19-07, 03:37 PM
beatboy77,

Is this the 'big' announcement you alluded to earlier this week or unrelated?

It would be excellent if there was more good news in store for Blu-ray Disc this week. :)

Non-Related.

~Josh

rlsmith
06-19-07, 03:38 PM
At 1/1000 the market size of DVD? Then I guess it really was a tempest in a teacup. :rolleyes:

Actually, the market share of disk sales is between 1 and 2 percent for both formats combined.

But your point that the nextgen market is very small is well taken. The questions are: why is it small, and what can we do about it?

IMHO: it is small because there is a format war and consumers are waiting. What we can do about it is to end the format war ASAP and get on with the content.

donricouga
06-19-07, 03:39 PM
Non-Related.

~Josh

This is just a bonus then !
Supposedly the big news is tomorrow, am I correct ?
So we have the blockbuster announcement, the Starz/Anchor Bay announcement, and what could bluray supporters possibly get tomorrow ???
It would be nice if it was something even bigger whats happened in the last two days

Paul Arnette
06-19-07, 03:40 PM
Non-Related.

[mr.burns]Excellent.[/mr.burns]

Bailey151
06-19-07, 03:40 PM
Aside from Highlander & Time Bandits I've never seen such an ugly catalog. If they were in the 10/$1 maybe..........................

(though I would pickup the two I mentioned :) )

theflux
06-19-07, 03:41 PM
Sweet !
haha Street Fighter II : The animated Movie.
Thanks for the list beatboy

HD DVD was no match for his psycho-powers.

RUR
06-19-07, 03:43 PM
Django (1966)
Wouldn't that be ironic. :p

Lee Stewart
06-19-07, 03:47 PM
Starz (Anchor Bay) isn't doing HD-DVD......let them keep dreaming Beatboy. It's not worth arguing about with these people. They will run over any press release with a fine-tooth comb looking for one word or sentence that gives them a glimmer of hope.

As opposed to BD fanboys who use sensationalistc thread titles that are aren't true.

I have no problem with the announcement or the article. It is the thread title I have a problem with and I suggested a new one which is accurate according to the article - and will probably be ignored.

beatboy77
06-19-07, 04:14 PM
Because of the Blockbuster decision I also feel this will push Weinstein to go format Neutral soon as well.

It appears Blu-ray has decided enough is enough and it appears the end of this stupid format war is near.

~Josh

Paul Arnette
06-19-07, 04:19 PM
We know the Target exclusivity news is coming, we just don't know when.

Well, I certainly hope that Target deciding to carry exclusively BD hardware isn't considered 'big' news.

Brian81
06-19-07, 04:20 PM
Aside from Highlander & Time Bandits I've never seen such an ugly catalog. If they were in the 10/$1 maybe..........................

(though I would pickup the two I mentioned :) )

Not into HORROR films?

Anchor Bay has or had the rights to the gross majority of classic "underground" horror titles. Most Argento, Fulci, Bava, Craven, etc... They release mostly obscure (to the general public) films.

UxiSXRD
06-19-07, 04:23 PM
[mr.burns]Excellent.[/mr.burns]

Indeed.

JAC6
06-19-07, 04:25 PM
Like the recent Blockbuster announcement, this alone is not an arrow in the heart of HD-DVD. But it is the most recent positive for Blu-Ray -- at this point the positives seem to be coming fast and furious for Blu-Ray. There's Blockbuster, the new Sony/Panasonic players, Starz, and the continuing 60-40+ sales advantage. For HD-DVD, there's been nothing positive for some time, and lots of negatives. The momentum seems to be all in favor of Blu-Ray, which is a problem if you're fighting a format battle in the public eye. It would seem self-evident that HD-DVD better have something up its sleeve. And soon.

kjack
06-19-07, 04:27 PM
It's nice to see the battle moved from formats/codecs to thread titles... :D

Brian81
06-19-07, 04:28 PM
Better example of Anchor Bay's back catalog:

http://www.dvdaf.com/search.html?pub=Anchor+Bay&init_form=str0_0_pub_Anchor+Bay

Jenova
06-19-07, 04:36 PM
I would love to have Hellraiser and Halloween on my Blur Ray collection. Sure it wont be top tier stuff in terms of PQ, but they will be at least better than average, and I love horror classics.

Some of the Masters of Horror stuff I like too. Looking forward to Imprint and Family.

JackBee
06-19-07, 04:36 PM
It's nice to see the battle moved from formats/codecs to thread titles... :D

Yesterday it was about the FCC limiting blu-ray and then how hd-dvd saves you gas and Wear/Tear on your car. Who know whats next!

Bailey151
06-19-07, 04:37 PM
Not into HORROR films?
:D Nope.....but I do like the two I mentioned

MRMOTA
06-19-07, 04:39 PM
Time Bandits (1981)

If I only get one it will be this one :cool:

nyg
06-19-07, 04:46 PM
I'm thrilled to hear Anchor Bay titles will be released on BD. Bring on Re-Animator STAT!

As far as exclusivity goes, wouldn't Clark have mentioned HD-DVD as well if they intended to releases in HD-DVD? Common sense tells us they are Blu-ray EXCLUSIVE.

~Josh

No s**t! With all the pro Blu-ray announcements this week the HD DVD fanboys are understandably in denial... er, more than usual.

deez
06-19-07, 04:53 PM
LMAO......you guys are %$#@^ for wanting the war over. When and if it ends you will have 1 format to decide your hd fate that is not good for us. Then no longer will you have a choice for PQ & AQ you will have to accept what ever the winning format dishes out. How sad that this has become mine is better than yours and PQ & AQ have gone by the wayside. Well, at least you can run the 5 issues of The Fifth Element or King Kong for your friends and show them the difference in AQ & PQ!!!

:mad:

B Leisle
06-19-07, 04:53 PM
Anchor Bay/Starz has gone Blu-ray Exclusive.

Who?

I can't see how this is good news for Blu-ray or bad news for HD DVD. :p

ChrisBeveridge
06-19-07, 04:59 PM
Sweet !
haha Street Fighter II : The animated Movie.
Thanks for the list beatboy

Starz is also the parent company of Manga Entertainment which has a number of anime movies and several TV series and OVAs - including Ghost in the Shell. There are some real gems in their collection if they have HD masters of them.

JackBee
06-19-07, 05:01 PM
LMAO......you guys are %$#@^ for wanting the war over. When and if it ends you will have 1 format to decide your hd fate that is not good for us. Then no longer will you have a choice for PQ & AQ you will have to accept what ever the winning format dishes out. How sad that this has become mine is better than yours and PQ & AQ have gone by the wayside. Well, at least you can run the 5 issues of The Fifth Element or King Kong for your friends and show them the difference in AQ & PQ!!!

:mad:

The longer this goes on, the more low bitrate hd-dvd encodes get ported from hd-dvd to blu ray from Warner. The longer this goes on, the more adoption of both formats goes down the toilet and becomes as worthless as DVDA/SACD. The longer this goes on, AVS becomes worse and worse. Once its all over, you will see AVS becoming the top tier place for discussing HD again, and you will see REAL HD fans excited for each other on their purchases, everyone will be joyful for all the new releases coming out, and a comadre will happen to the likes you've never seen. Hooray! I am very excited when a announcement happens and there arent the 10 usuals jumping into a thread and making it seem like its no big deal and trying to kill any and all excitement!

rlindo
06-19-07, 05:10 PM
Actually, the market share of disk sales is between 1 and 2 percent for both formats combined.

But your point that the nextgen market is very small is well taken. The questions are: why is it small, and what can we do about it?

IMHO: it is small because there is a format war and consumers are waiting. What we can do about it is to end the format war ASAP and get on with the content.

IMHO it is small because most people do not want to shell out a few hundred for a new player when they don't feel the difference is worth it.

Hey, I want mass adoption of these formats (asusming it doesn't worsen things as in making movies "fullscreen [1.78:1]" and other stuff) but I accept the reality that most do not care and can understand I am in the minority.

As for the OP...I guess this is good news for the format but those saying the format war is done because of this and blockbuster are seriously delusional. UNIVERSAL PEOPLE. Sorry but Universal being HD-DVD only will keep it going and I fail to see hwo this will magically make them cave.

I hope Anchor bay releases most of their movies on blu ray because there are a few I would pick up.

nyg
06-19-07, 05:12 PM
LMAO......you guys are %$#@^ for wanting the war over. When and if it ends you will have 1 format to decide your hd fate that is not good for us. Then no longer will you have a choice for PQ & AQ you will have to accept what ever the winning format dishes out. How sad that this has become mine is better than yours and PQ & AQ have gone by the wayside. Well, at least you can run the 5 issues of The Fifth Element or King Kong for your friends and show them the difference in AQ & PQ!!!

:mad:

My primary reason for wanting the format war over is because that ensures Universal films on Blu-ray. I don't want to own two players to play all the movies I want. Nor do I wish to spend any more money on a format that is dying. The players have such a low resale value right now it's ridiculous.

jayrader
06-19-07, 05:18 PM
I can't wait for Fox to go Bluray exclusive. Then we'll really see HD DVD crumble.

desmond212
06-19-07, 05:22 PM
My primary reason for wanting the format war over is because that ensures Universal films on Blu-ray. I don't want to own two players to play all the movies I want. Nor do I wish to spend any more money on a format that is dying. The players have such a low resale value right now it's ridiculous.

i want hddvd to die, but after it dies you will probably be able to buy whole bunch of them on ebay really cheap along with a player. that way when universal issues bd's you won't have to spend 30 bucks per disc. at this rate you might be able to own most of universal catlog for 10 bucks or less per disc.

beatboy77
06-19-07, 05:28 PM
I can't wait for Fox to go Bluray exclusive. Then we'll really see HD DVD crumble.

Fox is Blu-ray Exclusive.

~Josh

nyg
06-19-07, 05:29 PM
I can't wait for Fox to go Bluray exclusive. Then we'll really see HD DVD crumble.

You mean you actually want Fox to release more BDs right? ;)

bboisvert
06-19-07, 05:34 PM
Fox is Blu-ray Exclusive.

You can understand his confusion, though... right? ;)

jayrader
06-19-07, 05:37 PM
Fox is Blu-ray Exclusive.

~Josh

Oh really, then where are all of the titles you said would be released this week?

Fox is SD DVD exclusive and thats it.

Edit, not a personal attack. Just really pissed I don't have Master and Commander, Predator, Commando, Mr and Mrs Smith, and Man on Fire yet.

beatboy77
06-19-07, 05:37 PM
You can understand his confusion, though... right? ;)

To a degree, yes :)

~Josh

Slim GoodBooty
06-19-07, 05:49 PM
Starz (Anchor Bay) isn't doing HD-DVD......let them keep dreaming Beatboy. It's not worth arguing about with these people. They will run over any press release with a fine-tooth comb looking for one word or sentence that gives them a glimmer of hope.

And they aren't really planning on doing much BD either from what the article says. It also say that even if BD wins, they have to hope the catalog will follow. If BD really is winning why do you guys have to use crap like this?

JackBee
06-19-07, 05:49 PM
Oh really, then where are all of the titles you said would be released this week?

Fox is SD DVD exclusive and thats it.

Edit, not a personal attack. Just really pissed I don't have Master and Commander, Predator, Commando, Mr and Mrs Smith, and Man on Fire yet.

I can go to best buy today and buy X-Men 3 on blu-ray, right now, today. Te same cannot be said for hd-dvd. Hence, they are exclusive. And Fox news is coming, dont you worry cupcake.

mlankton
06-19-07, 05:56 PM
I thought this was about the quality of the software, regardless of format. If the Blockbuster and Anchor Bay announcements are the source of your biggest satisfaction this week, then you have a sad, little life. Does this really all boil down to the Blu camp wanting the satisfaction of "winning"? That sure as hell is not the reason I chose HD DVD, it was about content.

RUR
06-19-07, 05:59 PM
It's nice to see the battle moved from formats/codecs to thread titles... :D
Cripes, what did it take, two changes or three before he powered down?

Sisko197
06-19-07, 06:05 PM
I can go to best buy today and buy X-Men 3 on blu-ray, right now, today. Te same cannot be said for hd-dvd. Hence, they are exclusive. And Fox news is coming, dont you worry cupcake.


I so wish you were a Fox insider and saying that. ;)

JuKo
06-19-07, 06:20 PM
In other news people seem to be canceling their HD DVD player orders: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hd-dvd-on-the-way-out%3F/blockbusters-blu+ray-endorsement-having-major-impact-on-hd-dvd-player-sales-270313.php
(sorry, didn't know where to post this)

Robert George
06-19-07, 06:32 PM
Hmm. You guys missed one of the best titles Anchor Bay ever released.

The Final Countdown.

I'd buy that for a dollar.

On either format.

mikey p
06-19-07, 06:43 PM
good news for BD................ :)

JWhip
06-19-07, 07:15 PM
In reading this release it seems that this is the only thing that Anchor will be releasing on BD for now. Maybe more in the future but that seems to be up in the air. Perhaps a trial balloon on their part.

JackBee
06-19-07, 07:16 PM
Oh geeesh, what a shame. A bunch of low-budget, brainless horror films that wierdos beat-off to late at night in Moms basement in between Coors Lights and microwaved Jalapeno Poppers. Guess I should run right out now and start handing money to Blu Ray and Sony. Nothing quite like Phantasm in all its grainy glory with Dolby 1.0 Mono. Eggsellent..... :rolleyes:

Ohhhh Steven J Cannell productions. Greatest American Hero? HUH? You would pay REAL money for that stuff? Its 1.33:1 so good luck with the stretch-a-vision. :rolleyes:

:D

Its like i can see your tears running down your face from across the internet through your painful words. Dude, its just HD movies and people want one format, either get with us or get out of OUR (HD Movie lovers) way.

Paulidan
06-19-07, 07:29 PM
Hmm. You guys missed one of the best titles Anchor Bay ever released.

The Final Countdown.

I'd buy that for a dollar.

On either format.

I'd pay more than a dollar for it- but I thought Blue Underground, not AB released it.

AB, while still a coup for Bd, isn't the company it used to be.

beatboy77
06-19-07, 07:33 PM
Hi-Def Digest Confirms Starz/Anchor Bay Are Blu-Ray Exclusive:

Blu-ray has an unexpected new backer in the high-def format war, with Starz Home Entertainment announcing exclusive support of the format with its first release 'Masters of Horror.'

The news came today from the Sixth Annual Home Entertainment Summit, held in Century City, California, where Starz Home Entertainment President Bill Clark revealed at a press conference that the network would begin releasing its first Blu-ray-exclusive titles this fall.


For its maiden release, Starz will unleash the popular made-for-cable horror anthology 'Masters of Horror' in the fourth quarter of 2007. Exact pricing, supplemental details and street date have not yet been announced.

Other Starz catalog releases are set to follow 'Horror' in the coming months, although no other titles were announced at the Summit.

The news is even more noteworthy for Blu-ray as Starz controls the home video catalog of Anchor Bay Entertainment, one of the most popular suppliers of independent genre titles on standard-def DVD. Among the classics in the Anchor Bay library include 'Halloween,' 'The Evil Dead,' 'Re-Animator and the original 'Night of the Living Dead.' Should 'Masters of Horror' on Blu-ray score with consumers, it seems likely that at least some of these genre staples would follow.

Clark went on to say that the company has no current plans to release on rival next-gen format HD DVD.

'Masters of Horror' -- along with all future Starz Blu-ray releases -- are set to be distributed under the MGM Home Entertainment banner.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Starz/Disc_Announcements/Starz_Home_Entertainment_Announces_Blu-ray_Support_with_Masters_of_Horror/709

~Josh

Brian81
06-19-07, 07:47 PM
Kinda sucks. Yeah, BD discs may have better capabilities, but it's kind of disgusting how people can cheer for a format which still has yet to have it's final specifications. Where's the interactive capabilities and all that? At least HD-DVD has it's sh*t together. The BD Group needs a swift kick in the rear. I would want these Anchor Bay titles but I don't want to fork over a player which won't be compatible with basic features of discs a year down the road.

Brian81
06-19-07, 07:52 PM
Well, hopefully this format war will continue. If it doesn't - who knows. They might decide to not bother with features which are already available on the "weaker" format.


I haven't bought into either yet. I'll buy a HD DVD player as soon as either the Tosh is updated to decode DTS-HD MA or a new player is released which does (meaning the Onkyo coming out this fall - or a newer Toshiba model). BD Player? They won't even have every feature ready or required until when, 2009?

ADGrant
06-19-07, 07:53 PM
Aside from Highlander & Time Bandits I've never seen such an ugly catalog. If they were in the 10/$1 maybe..........................

(though I would pickup the two I mentioned :) )

Heathers is a classic. Best movie ever made that was set in a U.S. High School IMHO.

jpco
06-19-07, 08:02 PM
Well, hopefully this format war will continue. If it doesn't - who knows. They might decide to not bother with features which are already available on the "weaker" format.

For me, the sooner it ends the better. My primary interest (and I'd imagine the interest of many others) is to watch the film with the best picture and sound possible. From what I've seen, either format will deliver acceptable results as we move forward.

ADGrant
06-19-07, 08:06 PM
LMAO......you guys are %$#@^ for wanting the war over. When and if it ends you will have 1 format to decide your hd fate that is not good for us. Then no longer will you have a choice for PQ & AQ you will have to accept what ever the winning format dishes out. How sad that this has become mine is better than yours and PQ & AQ have gone by the wayside. Well, at least you can run the 5 issues of The Fifth Element or King Kong for your friends and show them the difference in AQ & PQ!!!

:mad:

We are not "%$#@^". We are just smart enough to realize that PQ & AQ is largely determined by how the movie studios master the disk, not which format they use. The same encoders are available for both formats. That said, BD does have the potential to be better given its higher bitrates and larger storage capacity.

We also realize that neither format can achieve mass adoption while the other is still viable. Most people will not want to buy two players just to have access to all studio output, particularly when both formats are so similar in price and PQ/AQ.

namechamps
06-19-07, 08:30 PM
Actually, the market share of disk sales is between 1 and 2 percent for both formats combined.

But your point that the nextgen market is very small is well taken. The questions are: why is it small, and what can we do about it?

IMHO: it is small because there is a format war and consumers are waiting. What we can do about it is to end the format war ASAP and get on with the content.

Actually you aren't even close.

In 2006 there were 1.6 BILLION DVD sold vs <1 million HD media which is about 0.06% (one 1/16th of 1 %). So far in 2007 about 1.5 million disc have been sold. Lets be generous and say 4 million for all of 2007 (I think it will be MUCH lower). Even if DVD sales are flat for 2007 that would be less than 1/4 of 1% (0.25%). For us to reach a mere 2% we would need sales of around 32 million annually. Take all the disc sold to date and add 50%. We would need to start selling that monthly.

JackBee
06-19-07, 08:45 PM
Well, hopefully this format war will continue. If it doesn't - who knows. They might decide to not bother with features which are already available on the "weaker" format.


I haven't bought into either yet. I'll buy a HD DVD player as soon as either the Tosh is updated to decode DTS-HD MA or a new player is released which does (meaning the Onkyo coming out this fall - or a newer Toshiba model). BD Player? They won't even have every feature ready or required until when, 2009?


Sigma Designs new chipset for the new BD Players out later this year does DTS HD-MA, 1080p24, Picture in Picture and more. And.. It works right now, this very day. It is expected for the new Pioneer and Sony players (neither of which are announced yet) have the new Sigma Designs chipset. Keith Jack (who works for Sigma) has posted that he has seen PiP on blu-ray in person working as of weeks ago. Expect these "final" units out this holiday season.

2009? LOL, HD-DVD Fanatic pipe dream.

los seres
06-19-07, 08:53 PM
2009? LOL, HD-DVD Fanatic pipe dream

Oh Really.

Despite Blockbuster’s recent move to focus on Blu-ray, Screen Digest believes it behooves companies to make the most of high-definition by dual-format publishing and/or manufacturing.

By 2010, there will be 45 million high-def game console units sold in U.S., Europe and Japan. This is much more tilted toward Blu-ray PlayStation 3 than Xbox 360 HD DVD drives. Worldwide, there will be more than 30 million Blu-ray and HD DVD stand-alone set-top boxes sold, heavily weighted toward relatively cheaper HD DVD.

Video Business (http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6453579.html)

Brian81
06-19-07, 08:56 PM
Sigma Designs new chipset for the new BD Players out later this year does DTS HD-MA, 1080p24, Picture in Picture and more. And.. It works right now, this very day. It is expected for the new Pioneer and Sony players (neither of which are announced yet) have the new Sigma Designs chipset. Keith Jack (who works for Sigma) has posted that he has seen PiP on blu-ray in person working as of weeks ago. Expect these "final" units out this holiday season.

2009? LOL, HD-DVD Fanatic pipe dream.


How is it a pipe dream? They aren't even requiring players to have Profile 1.1 until November of this year. What about 2.0? Will it be a waiting game for several years like it took for HDMI 1.3 to finally be available?

dobyblue
06-19-07, 08:56 PM
Oh Really.


Video Business (http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6453579.html)

Let's all put our faith in Jayalath's predictions.
In 2010 there will be only DVD and Blu-ray - that's my prediction.

dobyblue
06-19-07, 08:57 PM
How is it a pipe dream? They aren't even requiring players to have Profile 1.1 until November of this year. What about 2.0? Will it be a waiting game for several years like it took for HDMI 1.3 to finally be available?

All 2.0 requires is an ethernet port.

JackBee
06-19-07, 08:57 PM
Oh Really.


Video Business (http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6453579.html)

LOL

Seriously, press articles which do nothing in real life, like Anchor Bay going blu exclusive, Blockbuster siding with blockbuster at its retail stores, etc etc, dont mean a thing in real life. Im sure lots of people who work for microsoft predict hd-dvd is going to be alive forever, but to the general public... Its dead. Thanks for the update of internet news that pertains to NOTHING material tho. Appreciated since i dont catch all your anti-blu news articles in the news thread often enough!

desmond212
06-19-07, 09:00 PM
All 2.0 requires is an ethernet port.

millions of ps3's will become profile 2.0 players overnight like they became g2 players after 1.18.

JackBee
06-19-07, 09:03 PM
How is it a pipe dream? They aren't even requiring players to have Profile 1.1 until November of this year. What about 2.0? Will it be a waiting game for several years like it took for HDMI 1.3 to finally be available?

The board supports 2.0. It is optional if the company wants it in the player however. PiP is mandatory and thats a done deal as of this holiday season. Did you check the review for the first Web Enabled hd-dvd title, Freedom Vol 1? They LOCKED OUT CONTENT on the disc, unless you go online with the player and unlock it.. So you are forced to go online, to see the special extras. Taking the disc to your buddys house who doesnt have his hd-dvd player hooked up to the net? You are SOL. Seeing as how Ethernet is MANDATORY, what will stop microsoft/toshiba from making movies connect to the internet to play if they were to win? Online only/Divx movies? Could be closer then you think....

los seres
06-19-07, 09:11 PM
LOL

Seriously, press articles which do nothing in real life, like Anchor Bay going blu exclusive, Blockbuster siding with blockbuster at its retail stores, etc etc, dont mean a thing in real life. Im sure lots of people who work for microsoft predict hd-dvd is going to be alive forever, but to the general public... Its dead. Thanks for the update of internet news that pertains to NOTHING material tho. Appreciated since i dont catch all your anti-blu news articles in the news thread often enough!
Sometimes the truth hurts. I guess reading articles based on fact are not part of your idealogy.

Blockbuster siding with blockbuster at its retail stores
? LoL

Im sure lots of people who work for microsoft predict hd-dvd is going to be alive forever, but to the general public... Its dead

Are you conducting survey polls now ? Are you speaking for everyone on this forum.

Appreciated since i dont catch all your anti-blu news articles in the news thread often enough!

Everything I post is anti Blu-ray? Haha to funny!

jayrader
06-19-07, 09:20 PM
I can go to best buy today and buy X-Men 3 on blu-ray, right now, today. Te same cannot be said for hd-dvd. Hence, they are exclusive. And Fox news is coming, dont you worry cupcake.

CUPCAKE!!! Am I gonna score? If you actually bring me news that Fox stuff is coming, I might let you.

JackBee
06-19-07, 09:23 PM
CUPCAKE!!! Am I gonna score? If you actually bring me news that Fox stuff is coming, I might let you.

Woah.

Im all blue, all love. But i dont conduct myself is sinful RED love lol. But yah, i would expect some great Fox/MGM news shortly. You can buy me some Coffee Bean Banana Caramel drink tho!

dpags
06-19-07, 09:28 PM
Hi-Def Digest Confirms Starz/Anchor Bay Are Blu-Ray Exclusive:



http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Starz/Disc_Announcements/Starz_Home_Entertainment_Announces_Blu-ray_Support_with_Masters_of_Horror/709

~Josh

Nice

Brian81
06-19-07, 09:35 PM
Sometimes the truth hurts. I guess reading articles based on fact are not part of your idealogy.

? LoL

Are you conducting survey polls now ? Are you speaking for everyone on this forum.

Everything I post is anti Blu-ray? Haha to funny!

Just thought I'd say that I've discussed this with non-tech types and they almost unanimously say Blu-Ray will win this. Why? It's what they are told is best.

Vincent Pereira
06-19-07, 10:12 PM
Who?

I can't see how this is good news for Blu-ray or bad news for HD DVD. :p

News flash:

Lots of people are into movies other than the usual big-budget Hollywood drivel. Anchor Bay has an incredible, eclectic catalog of the types of movies that made me get into home theater in the first place way back in 1989 when I bought my first LaserDisc player for the main purpose of being able to buy Japanese imports of my favorite European horror films.

Vincent

nick1091
06-19-07, 10:37 PM
News flash:

Lots of people are into movies other than the usual big-budget Hollywood drivel. Anchor Bay has an incredible, eclectic catalog of the types of movies ...

Vincent

100% agreed. I can't say that AB/Starz has the best catalog in the world, but their percentage of stuff I'm interested in is pretty high.

It's funny, I've pretty much curtailed all my standard def buying, but the last 3 titles I've bought for standard have been from the Masters of Horror series, cause I figured they weren't coming to BD anytime soon. I'm very happy to have been proved wrong. :)

s2mikey
06-19-07, 11:13 PM
Its like i can see your tears running down your face from across the internet through your painful words. Dude, its just HD movies and people want one format, either get with us or get out of OUR (HD Movie lovers) way.

Tears, for what? I'll just sit back and enjoy the top-quality SD films I have. I have no problem with doing that/. My favorite movies are my favorite movies. Somehow, prior to all of this I *managed* to still enjoy movies that I like and this will never cease. You say "Get out of the HD movie lovers way". Oh I will. You're not a movie fan at all..... your a format fan and probably have tons of useless HD movies that were purchased just because they were in HD. Glad your expendible income is high. Casino Royale? Yeah....masterpiece of theater. Ghost Rider? Another profound example of visual excellence. :rolleyes: OMG....

Tears? Why? I paid under $300 bucks for the A2 and it upconverts superbly. I own exactly TWO HD DVDs. Poor me. Even if HD DVD were to die tomorrow morning I have lost really nothing.

I know.... "why dont I just switch over"? I will, when the following conditions are met:

1) Player prices get to $300 or less and arent junk
2) Lots of the HD DVD exclusives I like are released on BD
3) Disc prices drop to $20 or less for any title with catalog titles even cheaper
4) Specs are finalized
5) Region BS gets cleared up/removed as it is in HD DVD
6) Did I mention costs go down?

:D

Kentai
06-20-07, 07:17 PM
Master of Horror: Imprint, Manhunter, The Evil Dead trilogy, Romero's "Of The Dead" films, Blood: The Last Vampire, Opera... there's a lot from Anchor Bay I'd love to see on BD (or HD, I don't care either way - I guess they do though).

The only thing that worries me is a lot of their "Divimax" titles - remastered DVDs made from their own HD restoration process - look no better than their initial releases, and in some cases (like Halloween and The Evil Dead) they actually look worse between heavy noise reduction and manipulated colors. I wonder if they'll give us the Divimax'ed versions, or actually make new materials without heavy filtering as Lion's Gate seems to have done on a lot of their initial releases.

Let's hope we see the Army of Darkness director's cut on any optical disc not mastered from an old VHS tape, while we're at it. :D

Vincent Pereira
06-21-07, 12:30 AM
...

Let's hope we see the Army of Darkness director's cut on any optical disc not mastered from an old VHS tape, while we're at it. :D

It's already available via the stellar region 3 MGM DVD release that blows the Anchor Bay "Director's Cut" out of the water in every way imaginable.

Vincent

Kentai
06-21-07, 05:34 PM
Ah shoot, I knew about the MGM disc (though I never did pick it up) - should have said "from Anchor Bay" while I was at it. :)

Jackinbox
06-21-07, 07:57 PM
It's already available via the stellar region 3 MGM DVD release that blows the Anchor Bay "Director's Cut" out of the water in every way imaginable.

Vincent

You're right about that. The MGM disc from Hong Kong is light years ahead of anything released here from Universal or Anchor Bay.