I have the Mitsubishi HD1000U in my cart at projector people, credit card details are in, just about to hit submit.

I have a concern; I have only owned two projectors in my life, one was a plus dlp 4:3 800x600 and the other a Sony WHT10 (which was HD back in 2000).

I could really see the rainbows on the plus, they gave me headache; am I likely to see them on a newer dlp with 7 segments and a 4x speed wheel?

i guess its all personal... guess ill find out about the rainbows when it arrives.

I saw them with my X1 but not on my HD70. You might see them but probably much much less. Also, keep your brightness down, that will help. Some people like to crank the brightness until you can cut steel with the beam... I get a headache if my PJ is too bright.

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I have the Mitsubishi HD1000U in my cart at projector people, credit card details are in, just about to hit submit.

I have a concern; I have only owned two projectors in my life, one was a plus dlp 4:3 800x600 and the other a Sony WHT10 (which was HD back in 2000).

I could really see the rainbows on the plus, they gave me headache; am I likely to see them on a newer dlp with 7 segments and a 4x speed wheel?

I guess I am not sure why you would buy another DLP if this is the case. Why not an LCD where this is less likely to be the case?

Pat

I guess I am not sure why you would buy another DLP if this is the case. Why not an LCD where this is less likely to be the case?

Pat


Because he's being influenced by all the HD1000 posts saying it's all great. Which is the worst thing in the world he can do. Especially since he already knows what he's about to buy is most likely goiing to cause him problems.

Dude, don't buy that dlp. If you must have a projector, try a lcd model.

I've been reading up ondlp projector here for a bit now (looking particularly at the Mits HD1000U) and haven't heard anything on rainbows. Can anyone clarify/verify this?

I've been reading up ondlp projector here for a bit now (looking particularly at the Mits HD1000U) and haven't heard anything on rainbows. Can anyone clarify/verify this?

It's not the projector, it's dlp technology itself. Tv's are the same deal. Some people see rainbows especially in very bright scenes. If you look at a dlp set or projector for a bit, you'll know if you're one of those people or not.

In fairness the only dlp i had was a 1x speed wheel with 3 or 4 colour segments...

Things have moved on; my experience of LCD was poor contrast. I guess we will see.

Because he's being influenced by all the HD1000 posts saying it's all great. Which is the worst thing in the world he can do. Especially since he already knows what he's about to buy is most likely goiing to cause him problems.

Dude, don't buy that dlp. If you must have a projector, try a lcd model.

Thats ridiculous, and quite rude; perhaps when you've been around a while you'll appreciate the efforts people go to on these boards to help others.

Ive done plenty of on and off board reading; the 1000 fits my budget, desire for quality blacks, no rebate hassle and higher lumen's for back yard projection.

My question is more about how the technology has advanced; i read that 5x wheels produce none rainbow, so how does 4x fair? my dlp was 1x.

If you already have had rainbow issues, I would hesistate pick up another DLP unless I could try it out first. But as long as you can return it all it will cost you is the shipping so go for it, and I hope you dont have rainbow issues.

Thats ridiculous, and quite rude; perhaps when you've been around a while you'll appreciate the efforts people go to on these boards to help others.

Ive done plenty of on and off board reading; the 1000 fits my budget, desire for quality blacks, no rebate hassle and higher lumen's for back yard projection.

My question is more about how the technology has advanced; i read that 5x wheels produce none rainbow, so how does 4x fair? my dlp was 1x.


You're right, that was a bit too harsh. I apologize.

But seriously, if you already know that your apt to have issues with rainbows, then you may not want to buy a dlp projector.

Well man. My hd1000u should be here in the next two days. I saw rainbows on my old projector. If you want i can let you know how it looks and such. What are you gonna mainly be doing on the projector?

I also looked at this projector but ultimately decided on the Panasonic PT-AX100U. The Panasonic is about $400 more than the mitsubishi. I chose it because of better connectivity and a little more brightness. Just the connectivity alone is worth the difference in my opinion so it is a very future ready projector:

Mitsubishi:

720p
1080i
480i
480p
525i
525p
576i
576p
625i
625p
1125i


Panasonic:

720p
1080i
1080p/60
1080p/24
1080p/50
480i
480p
525i
525p
576i
576p
625i
625p
1125i

I sit almost right under my projector which is 9 foot up the wall, shooting 14 foot across a room, and the beam is only visable maybe 1.5ft if not less from the projector lens with bright/cont on 0 which is plenty bright. I love the HD1000u, and even though this guy is saying the Panny can do this or that...yes in the scheme of things though 400 dollars could put someone behind even more if they are stretching a proj budget anyways.

I sit almost right under my projector which is 9 foot up the wall, shooting 14 foot across a room, and the beam is only visable maybe 1.5ft if not less from the projector lens with bright/cont on 0 which is plenty bright. I love the HD1000u, and even though this guy is saying the Panny can do this or that...yes in the scheme of things though 400 dollars could put someone behind even more if they are stretching a proj budget anyways.Absolutely true but I was just informing of the advantage and my opinion. I wasnt trying to convince him one way or another. O and you put your brightness and contrast at 0?

my HD1000u was ISF calibrated, and yes its at Zero on a DIY 110"screen from a screen material guy on Ebay that everyone uses, and I love it. Setting the color temp manually, and Gamma slopes is the key. I wasn't knocking your opinion, but if hes looking at the HD70 or HD1000u, were talking someone on a budget :)

my HD1000u was ISF calibrated, and yes its at Zero on a DIY 110"screen from a screen material guy on Ebay that everyone uses, and I love it. Setting the color temp manually, and Gamma slopes is the key. I wasn't knocking your opinion, but if hes looking at the HD70 or HD1000u, were talking someone on a budget :)That's all true. Can you provide a link for that guy on ebay? Also do you have to set the color temp and gamma slopes manually in the service menu, or can you do it in the user menu? What is this "key" for?

Sure once I get home I will find the ebay link.. if you want to search I think it was Lumen pro, or luma bright...something along those lines..seller name was 1like2cruz something super close to that lol. and yes you set the color temp and gamma in the same menu where you could select warm, cool, vibrant or whatever, there is a USER1 or USER2. the key..haha the key is setting those levels manually, therefore reducing the need to blast the contrast or brightness...I mean these are DLP projectors, light cannons..last thing you need to do is make them brighter.

Thank you gentlemen, I guess I'll see how I get one; I already pulled the trigger on the 1000 which was above my original IN72 budget.

I would have gone for the panasonic or maybe the epson 400 (hate rebates) but I had already overspent.

The use of the projector is a backyard theater on a 12' gemmy screen.

Metric:

You said that you have only had experience with a 1x color wheel. If I'm not mistaken, seeing rainbows correlates with the speed of the color wheel. I am able to see rainbows with my hd1000u if I really, really, really try and only then sometimes. If I don't try, I honestly don't see them. I've also heard that, for some reason, you kind of stop seeing them after a while. I bet that you'll be more than fine with your hd1000u. I know it's on it's way--I just wanted to directly answer your question and inspire some confidence. I think you'll be blown away by this thing. I was.

Thanks lewdog. I found the model of my old dlp... http://www.projectorcentral.com/PLUS-U2-870.htm

Thank you gentlemen, I guess I'll see how I get one;
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What's the worst that can happen? You see rainbows?
ProjectorPeople have a 4 lamp hours and 7 days = no restock fee return policy.
It's right there in the purchase policy.

Nothing to worry about. All you'd have to do is pay $10 for return shipping.

If it helps I had a friend visit and he said he always saw rainbows on all the DLP he viewed, I am sure he has only seen a few but we watched a movie at my place and then he said that is a nice projector, I said yep, its DLP. He was shocked. I upgraded to the Epson 1080p model and now my friend owns my HD1000u.

Rocko,

I'm not sure we're allowed to post links for eBay or other selllers anymore, but...

search for the name luv2kruz2 on eBay, and the guy will come up. Or just put "luma-brite" in the search box. Under $50 (shipping included) for a 110" 16:9 screen. I ordered mine a few days ago.

dmxsoulja3. Buddy, post your ISF rusults on luma-brite thread
( http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=824282&highlight=luv2kruz2 )
I've been waiting for the results and now you go and post them on a different thread! ;)