View Full Version : HD1000u vc HC1500


Ring30
06-24-07, 10:03 AM
Mitsubishi recently announced it's HC1500 & it seems almost identical to the HD1000u. 2 differences I've noticed so far is the HD1000u delivers 1500 lumens & the HC1500 1600 lumens. The other is Mitsubishi lists the HC1500 as "True" 10-bit processing where as I don't remember seeing Mitsubishi quoting that exact phrase with the HD1000u. No idea if is, I just don't remember them stating it as such & I do remember that there was some confusion as to whether it may or may not be. I have heard that the HD1000u doesn't scale & deinterlace regular NTSC 480i very well (but don't know for sure). And, am very curious if the HC1500 will do it any better, or if I'm wrong about the HD1000u. I know that 1600 lumens compared to 1500 will most likely not be noticeable, but it does lead me to believe the projectors are in fact different. Just can't tell by how much, or what is actually different/upgraded.

Any thoughts/knowledge on the subject?
Thanks.

jimwhite
06-24-07, 05:26 PM
Mitsubishi recently announced it's HC1500
ummmm.... it was around when I bought my HD1000u over 6 months ago... though as now, nobody here knew anything about it...

:confused:

jrwhite
06-24-07, 08:01 PM
Hi Ring30,

I posted in the HD1000 thread that I saw the HC1500 at Infocomm. The Mits rep said it was the replacement for the HD1000. Very little change, same lens, optical block, panels, and same wheel, just a 100 more lumens. It was late in the show and the engineers had already gone, so I couldn't confirm any possible technical changes to the chassies. Since it's the same lamp, it sounds like a possible Brilliant Colour revision, or slightly boosting the lamp outpout in firmware. Just conjecture on my part though.

Jonathan

The Hound
06-25-07, 02:33 AM
HD1000u is 10-bit over component.

Ring30
06-25-07, 07:42 AM
Yes. I think I remember hearing that the HD1000U is 10-bit over component, but not necessarily over S-video. That is one of my big concerns (probably, my biggest). While I will be watching many things over component &/or (eventually) HDMI, I will also be watching from my TiVo over S-video. With the specific wording I read about the HC1500 saying "True" 10-bit, I'm wondering if it is over S-video also. It doesn't sound like the HD1000U is. This alone would make me wait for the HC1500 to come out.
Thanks.

tradewinds
06-25-07, 09:08 PM
Also, not sure if you read this yet. Looks like it is implied that the HC1500 has a sealed light path and also DVI input in addition to the HDMI.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/news_story_1027.htm

susu2k
06-26-07, 02:27 AM
will it be much better than the hd1000U? i just wanted to buy the hd1000 :(
hd1000 has 1 year lamp warranty or 500 hours... this one not.

talon95
06-26-07, 07:05 AM
The HD1000 has a sealed light path also.

From the Projector Central review:

"Finally, the Mitsubishi HD1000U, like all Mitsubishi projectors, has a sealed light engine."

I have to wonder if the HC1500 is really any brighter (same 200w bulb), or did they just mess with the color wheel (like make the white segment a little bigger)?

tradewinds
06-26-07, 07:19 AM
From that press release, I am not sure why no mention was made to the HD1000U. This all seems so strange. What is Mits up to?

Also, I do not see a separate DVI port in the brochure or on any sites that sell the 1500.

If all Mitsubishi PJ has sealed light engine, that would mean the 3000 and 3100 has also I would presume since they are higher priced models. Not sure why one person on these forums keep professing that the Mits are prone to dust blobs.

Ovation
06-26-07, 10:10 AM
Not sure why one person on these forums keep professing that the Mits are prone to dust blobs.
I'm only guessing, but theoretically, if the light section is sealed, but the entire optical path (including lenses and such) is not, then dust could still be a problem. Again, though, I'm only extrapolating on what is possible. I don't own a Mits projector.

tradewinds
06-26-07, 05:58 PM
I'm only guessing, but theoretically, if the light section is sealed, but the entire optical path (including lenses and such) is not, then dust could still be a problem. Again, though, I'm only extrapolating on what is possible. I don't own a Mits projector.

the words used in the press release was "light path". This usually includes the lenses and such not just the optics. I am sure this will get confirmed at some time.

Usually, if a PJ is prone to dust blobs, there is usually some FAQ or instruction that pop up here about how to deal with it, I have not seem any for the Mits or at least the 3100.

Ring30
07-09-07, 09:02 AM
So, I emailed Projector Central about the any processing differences between these & Evan replied back saying, "There is no difference between these two models in the video processing onboard."
Guess that answers my question & I'll be saving some $ & getting the HD1000U.
Thanks, Evan.

iGirl
07-09-07, 05:38 PM
Don't know about differences, but having had the HD1000 running for about a week now I can say i am fairly impressed with this unit. It may not be the greatest PJ for a family room in the daylight, but in a dark or darkened room it has a very good picture and cinematic quality to it...good luck & enjoy!

gtriffplayer
09-26-07, 10:16 AM
Hello! I just bought the HC1500 (899.99 at the blue box) and without having seen the HD1000 I cannot compare. I can say that I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of image from this relatively inexpensive projector. I have the HC1500 throwing an image onto a 92" Elite Cinetention Gray screen and after a DVE calibration LOTR looks like I remember it in the Theater! I have white walls and ceiling and this screen does a pretty good job of absorbing some of the ambient light. Blacks are ok but would be better if I could black out the walls with a non permanent solution as I rent. I have it hooked up to a Samsung BDP-1200 bluray and MI3 looks great. I do find that I have to sit at about 12 feet from the 92" screen in order to avoid seeing pixel structure and motion artifacts. This was my first projector purchase and after switching to this from my 32" Sony LCD flat panel...I will NEVER go back!!!

Noah
09-26-07, 08:04 PM
Yes. I think I remember hearing that the HD1000U is 10-bit over component, but not necessarily over S-video. That is one of my big concerns (probably, my biggest). While I will be watching many things over component &/or (eventually) HDMI, I will also be watching from my TiVo over S-video.With 480i S-video, 8-bit color may not be the limiting factor it is with other sources.