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bw1605
09-09-07, 09:36 PM
thanks bwall i see now

tlbowerts
09-09-07, 09:54 PM
Fry's has the 73-734 for $2499 with 16 month same as cash/no minimum payment/no interest financing and a free Big Bertha Driver [which is worth $300-$500 depending on where you get it] . . . (the 16 month financing and BigBertha Driver require application for a Mits credit account).

Is this a good deal?

Thanks,
N123

Yes!!!

indy sabre
09-09-07, 10:07 PM
Fry's has the 73-734 for $2499 with 16 month same as cash/no minimum payment/no interest financing and a free Big Bertha Driver [which is worth $300-$500 depending on where you get it] . . . (the 16 month financing and BigBertha Driver require application for a Mits credit account).

Is this a good deal?

Thanks,
N123
Got the 65-734 for $1799 with 16 month same as cash at Frys today. They even put the stand and an HDMI 1.3 cable on the free financing deal for me. 5 year warranty was 279.

Will be delivered next Friday. I haven't seen much as far as recommended settings in this thread though. I saw a recommendation to use the Natural setting with contrast dialed down to 46 and brightness to 28-31. Does anyone have any other recommendations for settings or where to get a service manual?

drummerdano
09-09-07, 10:47 PM
This might seem like a strange question, but is there a way to turn the speakers off completely on the tv. It doesn't have that function in the TV's menu.

tlbowerts
09-09-07, 10:57 PM
This might seem like a strange question, but is there a way to turn the speakers off completely on the tv. It doesn't have that function in the TV's menu.

Yes it is, in menu, go to AV, to audio settings, down to speakers, set speakers to AV receiver, this turns off tv speakers.

itsamikey
09-09-07, 11:18 PM
Some has had a problem with a loud humming,high pitch nosie.
Yes it is a know issue, sometimes it go's away , if not it can be fix!

Thanks, I did find the earlier posts. It will mean a phone call for something I can not hear. But if it is known issue, it should not be a problem.

applebonker
09-09-07, 11:57 PM
Yes it is, in menu, go to AV, to audio settings, down to speakers, set speakers to AV receiver, this turns off tv speakers.

For this to work I'm pretty sure you need to have the tv recognize that a receiver is connected. I ran a digital coax cable from the tv to an input on my receiver and then that option appeared. Just use an old composite cable if you have one, no need to buy a new cable.

captainjy
09-10-07, 12:03 AM
Hey guys. One thing I am really noticing that's different from our 52628 and this new 57734 is the amount of pixelation or noise and the lack of sharpness that our 52628 had. It just seems that the pixelation is a lot more noticeable when watching cable. HD-DVD's look amazing. We have Comcast and have always seemed to get a pretty solid signal. Within minutes of changing from the old TV to 734, I could see more pixelation. I really don't think that our signal quality suddenly dropped either.

The menus have changed a lot. I remember having an option, and I can't remember what it was called, something like noise reduction on the 52628 that really sharpened things up. I guess what I am really looking for is some tips or suggestions on tweaking the 734 to give up optimal viewing. Any suggestions are welcome!

danielwd
09-10-07, 12:13 AM
Our 57734 was delivered today, replacing the 52628. I was a little suprised that this TV doesn't take 1080p over component for our Xbox 360. PQ looks really good on HD channels, SD not so good. 360 PQ is a lot better with this TV. Thankfully, no loud humming sound. The PQ seems a little softer than our 52628, but I think some tweaking will sharpen it up. Happy so far, but a little disappointed there's no 1080p over component.

What does "1080p over component mean"? Is it something different than HDMI?

tlbowerts
09-10-07, 12:24 AM
What does "1080p over component mean"? Is it something different than HDMI?

Yes, component is different hookup from HDMI, component is cable with blue, green and red ends, 1080p over component means you can pickup 1080p with a component cable,the Mit's can only pickup 1080p with HDMI hookup.

beowulf7
09-10-07, 02:15 PM
I did the Menu, 2470 hack to determine my bulb is 12 hrs. old. I didn't know I watched that much TV on Thurs. night, Fri. morning, and Sun. night. :eek:

The picture quality of a 57" TV fed SD signal from 9' is pretty bad. :( The whining is still loud and very high pitched. I can hear it even when my Onkyo 605 receiver is at volume 50 (from 1 to 100). At volume 60, the audio drowns out the high-pitched sound. I'll call Mitsubishi TV sometime this week to see if they can send someone out to implement one or both fixes someone here mentioned.

The TV looks great on the Init TV stand (which was technically made for a 36" TV). I like having just 1 HDMI cable from the Onkyo receiver to the TV. I can't wait until my OPPO 980 DVD player arrives (hopefully before the weekend) so that I can truly determine picture quality ... in 1080p (albeit not hi-def). I'm also looking into getting an antenna to get free OTA hi-def.

I haven't finished reading the manual yet. :o For now, I'm using the video setting someone mentioned on p. 3 of this thread, but I realize the TV needs more calibration. Once I get the DVD player, I'll calibrate some more.

danielwd
09-10-07, 02:42 PM
Yes, component is different hookup from HDMI, component is cable with blue, green and red ends, 1080p over component means you can pickup 1080p with a component cable,the Mit's can only pickup 1080p with HDMI hookup.

You come through again, as usual. That's what I thought it was.

I use HDMI.

tlbowerts
09-10-07, 02:42 PM
I did the Menu, 2470 hack to determine my bulb is 12 hrs. old. I didn't know I watched that much TV on Thurs. night, Fri. morning, and Sun. night. :eek:

The picture quality of a 57" TV fed SD signal from 9' is pretty bad. :( The whining is still loud and very high pitched. I can hear it even when my Onkyo 605 receiver is at volume 50 (from 1 to 100). At volume 60, the audio drowns out the high-pitched sound. I'll call Mitsubishi TV sometime this week to see if they can send someone out to implement one or both fixes someone here mentioned.

The TV looks great on the Init TV stand (which was technically made for a 36" TV). I like having just 1 HDMI cable from the Onkyo receiver to the TV. I can't wait until my OPPO 980 DVD player arrives (hopefully before the weekend) so that I can truly determine picture quality ... in 1080p (albeit not hi-def). I'm also looking into getting an antenna to get free OTA hi-def.

I haven't finished reading the manual yet. :o For now, I'm using the video setting someone mentioned on p. 3 of this thread, but I realize the TV needs more calibration. Once I get the DVD player, I'll calibrate some more.

Bulb hours can add up fast.to make sure it's working like it should,next time you used it , keep it on for a set time, 2 hours , 3 hours etc,and check blub hours befor you turn it off
if you tv is that loud you should take it back for another, or call Mit and have it fix, it should not be this loud, should not beable to hear much of anything, even on mute, like i said before ,i have both the 734 and 833, and can't hear anything even on mute, onless i put my head in back of tv.

beowulf7
09-10-07, 02:56 PM
Bulb hours can add up fast.to make sure it's working like it should,next time you used it , keep it on for a set time, 2 hours , 3 hours etc,and check blub hours befor you turn it off
if you tv is that loud you should take it back for another, or call Mit and have it fix, it should not be this loud, should not beable to hear much of anything, even on mute, like i said before ,i have both the 734 and 833, and can't hear anything even on mute, onless i put my head in back of tv.

Good suggestions - I'll watch a show for exactly 2 hours one day and make sure the bulb counter only goes up by 2.

I figure if the high-pitched sound hasn't gone away after 12 hrs., then I should call Mitsubishi to make the call. I forgot to write down my TV's serial # and I know by the time I go home tonight, Mitsubishi's phone hours will be closed. So I'll call them tomorrow ... unless I forget to get the serial # again. :rolleyes:

BDP33
09-10-07, 03:02 PM
Both sets that I had were in my house for a period of at least a week. The sound never got any better on either set.

If you have the noise and have 12hrs on the set chances are it's not going to go away. Exchange it for another set if you can. I've checked at few 734's at B&M stores here and they didn't have the whine. It's really all about luck on whether you get one that does it or not.

lprager
09-10-07, 03:19 PM
Bulb hours can add up fast.to make sure it's working like it should,next time you used it , keep it on for a set time, 2 hours , 3 hours etc,and check blub hours befor you turn it off
if you tv is that loud you should take it back for another, or call Mit and have it fix, it should not be this loud, should not beable to hear much of anything, even on mute, like i said before ,i have both the 734 and 833, and can't hear anything even on mute, onless i put my head in back of tv.

tlbowerts (or anyone else who has seen both the 734 and 833 in detail),
as someone who has both sets, can you tell me if there are any real differences between the two sets? The only thing I am aware of is the smooth120hz. Are the dlp chips the same or different? Any real difference between the pictures, in terms of shadow detail, brightness, or colors? Do you ses any difference from the smooth120hz?

I am going to get one, and I do not really care about the price, but I like the looks of the 734 better. I am not a fan of the black gloss finish.

Thanks.

lprager
09-10-07, 03:32 PM
tlbowerts (or anyone else who has seen both the 734 and 833 in detail),
as someone who has both sets, can you tell me if there are any real differences between the two sets? The only thing I am aware of is the smooth120hz. Are the dlp chips the same or different? Any real difference between the pictures, in terms of shadow detail, brightness, or colors? Do you ses any difference from the smooth120hz?

I am going to get one, and I do not really care about the price, but I like the looks of the 734 better. I am not a fan of the black gloss finish.

Thanks.

Nevermind. I searched and found all the prior input you had left.

elrizzo
09-10-07, 03:41 PM
I know our sets have "Plush1080p" which is supposed to upscale everything to 1080p...right? Does this mean an upconverting DVD player is of no use?

Can anyone shed some light on this?

I would think that you want the original signal upscaled / processed only once.

DVD's on my regular player dont look bad... definitely not HD quality, but I'm not complaining.

Hipnotiq
09-10-07, 04:00 PM
Good suggestions - I'll watch a show for exactly 2 hours one day and make sure the bulb counter only goes up by 2.

Just for clarification: Mits calls it TV ON TIME. It doesnt get reset when you replace the lamp. It is just an overall usage counter.

beowulf7
09-10-07, 06:05 PM
Both sets that I had were in my house for a period of at least a week. The sound never got any better on either set.

If you have the noise and have 12hrs on the set chances are it's not going to go away. Exchange it for another set if you can. I've checked at few 734's at B&M stores here and they didn't have the whine. It's really all about luck on whether you get one that does it or not.

It's pretty inconvenient for me to return the TV b/c I'd need to borrow my friend's minivan again and rack up some 70-80 miles round trip. I'll instead call Mitsubishi and ask them to send out a serviceman and implement the fix.

For those who called Mitsubishi, exactly what did you tell them? I'm paranoid that the Tier 1 CSR won't have the foggiest idea I'd be referring to. Thanks.

captainjy
09-10-07, 06:45 PM
Personally, I am a little unsure about Mits these days. We have had 2 Mits TV's and have had nothing but problems with the first one. The colors are vibrant on our new 57734 and the PQ seems good, but I am still unsure about it. Are there any good reviews on the 57734 out there?

indy sabre
09-10-07, 09:38 PM
I was looking for this last night, incase anyone else needs the link - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=733591

captainjy
09-11-07, 03:05 AM
Just a little curious about how the 57734 handles signals over HDMI with cable. Since getting our 734, our cable signal seems to have a lot of noise in it. I see what I can best describe as pixelation that has a bit of a ghosting effect on a lot of channels. Less on some channels than others. I can then put in an HD-DVD on the 360, like with Mission Impossible 3 and it's amazing looking. Obviously our signal is an issue, but I am curious how instantly going from our 52628, I can see such a big difference in signal quality on the 57734. Any suggestions or input is greatly appreciated!

seanpatrickb
09-11-07, 03:13 AM
I too am curious what luck people have had having someone come out and fix the noise. Its on mine, but i haven't gotten around to calling yet because it generally doesn't bother me that much.

beowulf7
09-11-07, 01:59 PM
Just for clarification: Mits calls it TV ON TIME. It doesnt get reset when you replace the lamp. It is just an overall usage counter.

You're right, but for those still on the 1st bulb, it'd be the same thing. However, it's possible to run up the TV time w/o the bulb being used. For example, if everything is going into the receiver and then a single HDMI cable is run to the TV, turning off the receiver would display no picture on the TV, but the TV would still be on.

This happened to me last night and I almost forgot about turning off the TV. Luckily, its annoying high-pitched whining noise alerted me. Speaking of that high-freq. sound, I called Mitsubishi last night (after hours) just to feel out the phone menu system. The pre-recording said I should first contact the seller for any repair work. :( I'm going to call Mitsu again in a little bit to talk to someone live and see what they say - assuming they know about the fix.

lprager
09-11-07, 04:41 PM
Personally, I am a little unsure about Mits these days. We have had 2 Mits TV's and have had nothing but problems with the first one. The colors are vibrant on our new 57734 and the PQ seems good, but I am still unsure about it. Are there any good reviews on the 57734 out there?

I have had two Samsung and one Mitsibishi DLP. All have broken down, including the Mitsubishi after only 15 months. I am currently getting another Mitsubishi DLP (the 73734), but only because of the magic of the extended warrantee. I would never buy any DLP without one. I got mine from PC Richard, and they have been good about fixing / replacing them when needed.

applebonker
09-11-07, 09:25 PM
I have had two Samsung and one Mitsibishi DLP. All have broken down, including the Mitsubishi after only 15 months. I am currently getting another Mitsubishi DLP (the 73734), but only because of the magic of the extended warrantee. I would never buy any DLP without one. I got mine from PC Richard, and they have been good about fixing / replacing them when needed.

I'm sorry to hear that. I took a risk on my last set a Mits WD-52725 (720p) DLP about 2.5 years ago. It was also a floor model so I bought it open box (based on the build date I'm guessing it was a floor model for about 6-7 months). I would also assume that the tv was on about 50 hours a week for those 6-7 months which is a considerable period. I never had any issues with that set, so I have recently upgraded to a Mits WD-65833. I think most people usually have better luck than you (unfortunately for you). But an extended warranty is not always a bad idea. It never hurts to protect your investment. For the record, I believe most studies have shown that electronics are least likely to break between the 1-5 year period. That means that if your set is ok for the first year (which is usually covered by the manufacturer's warranty) it will likely make it through the extended warranty period. Just some food for thought.

seanpatrickb
09-11-07, 09:47 PM
I feel the same as you^. But with the dlp tvs the extended warranty is usually about the price of a bulb replacement, so i think its definitely worth it.

applebonker
09-11-07, 10:19 PM
I feel the same as you^. But with the dlp tvs the extended warranty is usually about the price of a bulb replacement, so i think its definitely worth it.

Agreed. Just make sure that the bulb replacement is included in the warranty. There are plenty out there that have this feature. But don't use that as an excuse to watch too much tv. :)

ankursaxena
09-11-07, 10:26 PM
Just wanted to say that I am glad that I am about to join the club, just ordered the 57734 from Universal LCD for a good price i think, I am still thinking about getting the warranty from someplace, but havent decided where. If anyone has suggestions, that would be great..

beowulf7
09-12-07, 02:01 PM
I called Mitsubishi TV to ask them to investigate my high-pitched sound problem. I dialed 800-332-2119 and pressed "0" to speak w/ a CSR ("0" is a hidden option). After the CSR took down all my info. and I described the problem in detail, she transferred me to a local repair shop. The serviceman is going to come out on Sat. to diagnose the problem and then said he'd probably have to make another trip to install a new part if needed.

When I described the problem, he said that there is no service bulletin out for it. So apparently Mitsubishi is not fully aware of the problem, contrary to what others here have said. I mentioned that to him, to which he replied, "Do you believe everything you read on the Internet?" I told him I believe my ears.

My DVD player should arrive today. I'm looking forward to it! :cool:

Just wanted to say that I am glad that I am about to join the club, just ordered the 57734 from Universal LCD for a good price i think, I am still thinking about getting the warranty from someplace, but havent decided where. If anyone has suggestions, that would be great..

Check out the extended warranty thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=826857).

Mcal15
09-12-07, 03:54 PM
I just purchased the 57734 from Amazon. Hope the TV doesnt have the fan noise. At least I am prepared for the worst.

I was going to buy the Samsung HL-T6176s until I read all the image issues everyone is having with that one. I think I made the right choice though. I am replacing a 3 year old Sammy who is suffering from a shattered color wheel with no warranty.

captainjy
09-12-07, 05:58 PM
Maybe because our 57734 is bigger, but it seems that the PQ is not quite as sharp as our 52628 was.

beowulf7
09-13-07, 01:38 PM
I finally played 1080p material on my 57734. I got my OPPO '980 DVD from Amazon yesterday and hooked it up to the receiver via HDMI. I played "Matrix" DVD on it and it looks pretty good. The dark scenes are grainy, which is understandable, but when there was a lot of light, the picture looked great.

Has anyone gotten a professional calibration on their '734 yet? If so, I'd like to know what settings you're using. So far, I'm using the setting someone here mentioned on p. 2 or 3.

FHT123
09-13-07, 02:49 PM
How do you check the hours on a Mitsubishi DLP's?

tlbowerts
09-13-07, 03:16 PM
How do you check the hours on a Mitsubishi DLP's?

push, menu -2-7-4-0, blub hours are in low left of screen, For 731,732,831,733,734 and 833 models, don't know if the same for older models !

Hipnotiq
09-13-07, 04:11 PM
I finally played 1080p material on my 57734. I got my OPPO '980 DVD from Amazon yesterday and hooked it up to the receiver via HDMI. I played "Matrix" DVD on it and it looks pretty good. The dark scenes are grainy, which is understandable, but when there was a lot of light, the picture looked great.

Has anyone gotten a professional calibration on their '734 yet? If so, I'd like to know what settings you're using. So far, I'm using the setting someone here mentioned on p. 2 or 3.
The original MATRIX is kinda grainy regardless of TV.

You may wanna rent the movie SHOOTER. Its pretty good or King Kong.

kjahadi
09-13-07, 08:27 PM
Hello,

I'm considering the purchase of a WD73734. Just curious what people think about the brightness of this TV once they get it in their house? I saw it on display at Circuit City, and honestly I didn't think it looked too bright, but then again, there are a bunch of other TVs running and the lighting is very different than inside the home. Am I correct in assuming that it will look better at home?

tlbowerts
09-13-07, 08:42 PM
Hello,

I'm considering the purchase of a WD73734. Just curious what people think about the brightness of this TV once they get it in their house? I saw it on display at Circuit City, and honestly I didn't think it looked too bright, but then again, there are a bunch of other TVs running and the lighting is very different than inside the home. Am I correct in assuming that it will look better at home?

Yes, your assuming right that it will look better at home, The brightness is fine on the 734's

drummerdano
09-13-07, 08:46 PM
For this to work I'm pretty sure you need to have the tv recognize that a receiver is connected. I ran a digital coax cable from the tv to an input on my receiver and then that option appeared. Just use an old composite cable if you have one, no need to buy a new cable.

Thanks for your help--you are right--unless the tv senses an audio signal out, it will not give you the option to turn them off

Is there anything in the service menu to completely turn them off without having to use an audio output from the tv--i use hdmi for video and optical for audio to my processor

seanpatrickb
09-14-07, 02:32 AM
Just a heads up for everyone who got their tv from hhgregg in the past 30 days. This saturday everything is 20% off in the store, so you can get a refund for the difference.

kjahadi
09-14-07, 03:53 AM
Another quick question, anyone know how big a difference the 120hz capability on the Diamond model makes? I understand what it does, but i'm trying to figure out if i would regret not having this if I went with the 734?

I have an Xbox 360 w/HD-DVD player (connected via component set to 720p), but to be honest I really haven't watched it that much yet (still waiting on my 5 free movies). I wasn't aware that HD-DVD had a "judder" when watching on fast action sequences. Is it really that noticeable and detract from the experience? Is that why we are seeing 120hz TV's now? The Diamond is considerably more expensive, so I'm trying to figure out if its really worth it, or should I just keep my eye on the 734?

I'd like to get honest input here, not some sales person at the store selling me on a feature that technically is better but not really noticeable. Thanks for the help!

tlbowerts
09-14-07, 10:29 AM
Another quick question, anyone know how big a difference the 120hz capability on the Diamond model makes? I understand what it does, but i'm trying to figure out if i would regret not having this if I went with the 734?

I have an Xbox 360 w/HD-DVD player (connected via component set to 720p), but to be honest I really haven't watched it that much yet (still waiting on my 5 free movies). I wasn't aware that HD-DVD had a "judder" when watching on fast action sequences. Is it really that noticeable and detract from the experience? Is that why we are seeing 120hz TV's now? The Diamond is considerably more expensive, so I'm trying to figure out if its really worth it, or should I just keep my eye on the 734?

I'd like to get honest input here, not some sales person at the store selling me on a feature that technically is better but not really noticeable. Thanks for the help!

I have both (734 and 833) and have a post in 833 thread of a test i did beween the two,if you would like to read it, the 120Hz (my opinion) makes more of a different with gaming,also if you want PIP, it's only on the 833, as for as Judder on HD-DVD , I don't really see much, if any, with and without the 120Hz.

knitlady037
09-14-07, 01:24 PM
This is my first post so forgive any mistakes please. I am a novice that just took delivery of my 65734 this week. I have my direct tv h20 programed to native on 720p and 1080i. Am I losing any picture quality having it this way? I have been following this board for a while and used advise from all of you to make my purchase decision, so thanks. I am still having some problems with picture quality but I guess i'll have to keep checking the tweaks and setting board. I'm not having any luck with the settings posted there now and am nervous about doing any changes with the service manual.

beowulf7
09-14-07, 02:16 PM
The original MATRIX is kinda grainy regardless of TV.

You may wanna rent the movie SHOOTER. Its pretty good or King Kong.

Thanks, I'll rent "Shooter" the next time I'm at the Redbox kiosk. I thought about it but heard the movie is so-so. But if it'll give me a good video performance test, I'll spend the buck and rent it. :)

beowulf7
09-14-07, 02:19 PM
BTW, a tech repairman is supposed to come out to my house tomorrow morning to address the high-freq. sound coming out of my TV. He'll try to first diagnose it and said someone would make a 2nd trip to replace a part of needed. I hope he can hear that noise and not accuse me of hearing things. It's a very high-freq. pitch, so older folks wouldn't be able to hear it.

danielwd
09-14-07, 02:37 PM
This is my first post so forgive any mistakes please. I am a novice that just took delivery of my 65734 this week. I have my direct tv h20 programed to native on 720p and 1080i. Am I losing any picture quality having it this way? I have been following this board for a while and used advise from all of you to make my purchase decision, so thanks. I am still having some problems with picture quality but I guess i'll have to keep checking the tweaks and setting board. I'm not having any luck with the settings posted there now and am nervous about doing any changes with the service manual.

I often wonder this too. I wonder if having my cable box exclusively set to 1080i, if that causes any issues with 720p signals which ESPN uses.

Mcal15
09-14-07, 04:45 PM
My 57734 is scheduled for delivery on 9/20. I am anxious to get the TV but am a little worried about possible issues with noise and artifacts stuck on the screen. I am getting a warranty but hope I dont need it.

I did have one question. Does anyone have an opinion on how the TV does in handling the 1080i to 1080p conversion? Some TV's dont do a very good job of this.

tlbowerts
09-14-07, 05:22 PM
My 57734 is scheduled for delivery on 9/20. I am anxious to get the TV but am a little worried about possible issues with noise and artifacts stuck on the screen. I am getting a warranty but hope I dont need it.

I did have one question. Does anyone have an opinion on how the TV does in handling the 1080i to 1080p conversion? Some TV's dont do a very good job of this.

The 734 does fine in handling 1080i to 1080p!

Hipnotiq
09-14-07, 05:38 PM
Thanks, I'll rent "Shooter" the next time I'm at the Redbox kiosk. I thought about it but heard the movie is so-so. But if it'll give me a good video performance test, I'll spend the buck and rent it. :)
I'm not saying SHOOTER is a great movie, its not bad either (it does get kinda preachy near the end).

I thought the opening sequence looked astonishing. Very vidid and bright colors with lots of camera panning and movement.
There are alot of color contrasts as well uniform color/brightness shots.
It was crystal clear on my set.

That sequence also had some good audio I thought. With helicopters and shooting and people shouting, there was good seperation.

There is a section of the movie where there is alot of snow and blue sky. I thought that is also a good scene to see if white was saturating and blurring/smearing.

big_screen_bill
09-14-07, 09:16 PM
I ordered the 65734 today and I cannot wait for it to arrive! Is anyone else having to run 30 to 40 feet of HDMI cable to their set and if so what gauge are you using? Also, are you using an extender? Thanks in advance and I will let you know what I think once it is set up.

- Bill

trapperjohnMD
09-15-07, 01:18 AM
I ordered the 65734 today and I cannot wait for it to arrive! Is anyone else having to run 30 to 40 feet of HDMI cable to their set and if so what gauge are you using? Also, are you using an extender? Thanks in advance and I will let you know what I think once it is set up.

- Bill

That sure is a long distance to run a cable. Is that for some type of professional application?
According to https://HDMI.ORG 50-75feet were tested with 1080p and it was successful.

JetJock3315
09-16-07, 12:41 AM
I've had my 73734 for a week now and all I can say is WOW! Even my 10 year son was "wowwed" by the picture when I first tuned i to Discovery HD.

It replaced an old Toshiba 65H83 and my sources are HD DVR via HDMI, Toshiba A1 HD DVD via HDMI, PC via HDMI and game consoles (mainly XBox 360) via component. So I have been used to watching mostly HD material for the last couple of years. I haven't calibrated it yet (I use CalMAN and am waiting for the HD DVE to come in). I am curious to see how close comes right out of the box.

I also have the Panny AE900U on a 120" screen mainly for movies.

But I have say watching HD DVD on the Mitsu is a real treat.

I have the new Toshiba A35 on preorder and I am looking forward to comparing 1080P24 on the Mitsu vs the 1080i (or 720P) on the Panny.

I also hope to get the Onkyo 905 delivered this week so that I can pump everything in at 1080P.

I have had none of the problems others have mentioned. The manufacture date on the box said July 2007. So far this is turning out to be a great looking set and I highly recommend it.

chlngr1970
09-16-07, 07:51 AM
I have the new Toshiba A35 on preorder and I am looking forward to comparing 1080P24 on the Mitsu vs the 1080i (or 720P) on the Panny.I've had mine for a few weeks now. Please let us know how 1080P24 looks on this, as I am considering upgrading my HD-D1 to either the HD-XA2, or 'A35 when it hits.

Thanks!

tlbowerts
09-16-07, 10:47 AM
I've had mine for a few weeks now. Please let us know how 1080P24 looks on this, as I am considering upgrading my HD-D1 to either the HD-XA2, or 'A35 when it hits.

Thanks!

Have the HD-XA2 and Mit, and 1080p24 may look a little better, what the AX2 is great at is upscaling DVD's to almost like HD DVD's!!

ctcsoft
09-16-07, 11:34 AM
how does the 733 compare to the 734?

tlbowerts
09-16-07, 11:44 AM
how does the 733 compare to the 734?

The 733 is a alright tv,some are very happy with them, but 733 is missing PerFecTint and DarkDetailer that are needed to do Calidration right, also missing some other things like net-command, 1 less HDMI hook up etc. has a lot to do with what all your be useding your tv for ,and if you want the best PQ you can get!

beowulf7
09-17-07, 02:00 PM
BTW, a tech repairman is supposed to come out to my house tomorrow morning to address the high-freq. sound coming out of my TV. He'll try to first diagnose it and said someone would make a 2nd trip to replace a part of needed. I hope he can hear that noise and not accuse me of hearing things. It's a very high-freq. pitch, so older folks wouldn't be able to hear it.
A local repairman who is authorized to service Mitsubishi TVs came on Sat. As luck would have it, that was the day my TV stopped making the high-pitched sound. But he believed me and said the transformer probably needs to be replaced, which he can do on Fri. Believe it or not, after he left, that high-freq. sound returned! :mad: He believed me b/c he saw my setup and said, "You look like you know what you're doing." :D

I'm not saying SHOOTER is a great movie, its not bad either (it does get kinda preachy near the end).

I thought the opening sequence looked astonishing. Very vidid and bright colors with lots of camera panning and movement.
There are alot of color contrasts as well uniform color/brightness shots.
It was crystal clear on my set.

That sequence also had some good audio I thought. With helicopters and shooting and people shouting, there was good seperation.

There is a section of the movie where there is alot of snow and blue sky. I thought that is also a good scene to see if white was saturating and blurring/smearing.
Yes, I see what you mean. "Shooter" is a very good movie to test out the TV. I equate it w/ "Pulse", which is supposedly a bad movie, but is great to allow your subwoofer to flex its muscles. :cool:

captainjy
09-17-07, 02:20 PM
I have both (734 and 833) and have a post in 833 thread of a test i did beween the two,if you would like to read it, the 120Hz (my opinion) makes more of a different with gaming,also if you want PIP, it's only on the 833, as for as Judder on HD-DVD , I don't really see much, if any, with and without the 120Hz.

I have the 57734 with a 360 and I can't really compare it like you, but what I am seeing is amazing, especially going from a 52628. Games and HD-DVD are very rich in color and much more vibrant!

Mandrake
09-17-07, 10:29 PM
Don't worry about it, some are making to big of a deal about the loud humming, if it has loud humming, get it fix,or take it back for another,it has been said Mit have resolved this issue(the loud humming that some had)

Can anybody confirm that there has been an official, albeit perhaps off the record, fix? A change in hum/fan suppliers, or something tangible?

I'd really appreciate knowing that.

Thanks!

tlbowerts
09-17-07, 10:37 PM
Can anybody confirm that there has been an official, albeit perhaps off the record, fix? A change in hum/fan suppliers, or something tangible?

I'd really appreciate knowing that.

Thanks!

All i can tell you . i was told this by a Mit service tech, and have hear the same thing from 3 others so far!

ctcsoft
09-18-07, 09:36 AM
All i can tell you . i was told this by a Mit service tech, and have hear the same thing from 3 others so far!

I just bought the 65734 set at the lafayette, IN HHGregg store. They gave me a open box 65734 model for $1710 + tax. Felt like a steal of a deal but it does have the humming sound.

You can hear it on low volume or mute only. But it is there.

However...... I want to keep this set. It is a great set and leaps and bounds better than my 50" Samsung HLN 720p set.

I just need a tech to fix this slight humming and we'll be 100% happy. I don't want to return it because I'm 3hrs from HHgregg store.

To me... This is a fabulous set and Mits seems to have got it right except the humming sound. You cannot fault them for such a slight problem -IF- they agree to fix it.

Now if they refuse to fix it then we have reason to complain and be unhappy.

Should I return this set guys or have it fixed?? Any chance mits will refuse to service it? If so I better return it for another set before my 10day return policy is up.

tlbowerts
09-18-07, 10:24 AM
I just bought the 65734 set at the lafayette, IN HHGregg store. They gave me a open box 65734 model for $1710 + tax. Felt like a steal of a deal but it does have the humming sound.

You can hear it on low volume or mute only. But it is there.

However...... I want to keep this set. It is a great set and leaps and bounds better than my 50" Samsung HLN 720p set.

I just need a tech to fix this slight humming and we'll be 100% happy. I don't want to return it because I'm 3hrs from HHgregg store.

To me... This is a fabulous set and Mits seems to have got it right except the humming sound. You cannot fault them for such a slight problem -IF- they agree to fix it.

Now if they refuse to fix it then we have reason to complain and be unhappy.

Should I return this set guys or have it fixed?? Any chance mits will refuse to service it? If so I better return it for another set before my 10day return policy is up.

I,m with you , these are Fabulous sets, could not ask for much more, from what i'd been told a slight humm is normal, so guess it would be up to the service tech as to what he thinks is normal, but i'm with you , if it has any humm at all, would be unhappy, as i know most seem to have no humm at all.
If your unhappy with the humm you have, I'd play it safe and return it for another,as i think we pay to much for these sets to be unhappy for any reason!

bpjmcg
09-18-07, 01:46 PM
Just a heads up for everyone who got their tv from hhgregg in the past 30 days. This saturday everything is 20% off in the store, so you can get a refund for the difference.

Thank you sir! Ended up getting my 65734 due to this sale.

Ricknknox
09-18-07, 04:26 PM
Thanks for the Info 20% HHG, I got around $300 back on my TV, purchased about 2 weeks ago, They looked it up, refunded the difference, was really easy. Now maybe I will get a free weekend so I can enjoy it.

seanpatrickb
09-18-07, 06:03 PM
Glad i could help. I ended up not getting anything back as it was still more expensive, but I'm glad i could save some people a few bucks on this awesome tv.

Phireman19
09-18-07, 11:48 PM
Is the sale this coming weekend , 9/22 ? Or was it last weekend ? I am buying my Mitsu 65734 this week, should I wait ?

seanpatrickb
09-19-07, 12:20 AM
It was last weekend, sorry. If you are considering hhgregg to get your tv don't take the sticker price, you can work it down. I pm'ed you how much i paid there since i believe you aren't supposed to post it on the forum.

Thugzie
09-19-07, 10:56 AM
FYI, I just called hhgregg and asked if they would honor last weekends 20% off promo price for the 73734. They said they would honor it if I picked up the set today. To bad I can't make it there from Chicago. :(

beowulf7
09-19-07, 01:51 PM
All i can tell you . i was told this by a Mit service tech, and have hear the same thing from 3 others so far!

But the odd thing is when I called Mitsubishi (who then put me in contact w/ a local repair company), they hadn't read of any service bulletins on the '734 b/c of a loud or high-pitched fan. :confused:

sbosak
09-19-07, 01:58 PM
Is there a reason why my 734 comes up in 1080i mode all the time? Is that a function of the DISH HD setup only sending 1080i signals?

lcaillo
09-19-07, 02:04 PM
But the odd thing is when I called Mitsubishi (who then put me in contact w/ a local repair company), they hadn't read of any service bulletins on the '734 b/c of a loud or high-pitched fan. :confused:

Perhaps because there are no published service bulletins on the matter. There may be something internal at Mits, but nothing that they have made available to service centers at this time.

beowulf7
09-19-07, 02:39 PM
Perhaps because there are no published service bulletins on the matter. There may be something internal at Mits, but nothing that they have made available to service centers at this time.

I guess maybe it hasn't worked itself from internal Mitsubishi to their authorized repair centers (i.e. service bulletins).

Unrelated to all this: is it impossible to freeze an HDMI input source? I was able to freeze the TV when watching via co-ax. But now that the co-ax is going to a receiver (technically, a yellow composite RCA cable), which is then HDMI out to the TV, I can't freeze (pause) the picture anymore. What gives? :confused:

rmach
09-19-07, 02:48 PM
Review of 65734 http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/mitsubishi-wd-65734/4505-6484_7-32450673.html?ar=o&tag=pdtl-list. Said that this years 734 (rating 7.6) is worst than last years 831 (rating 8.6)!

Problems:
1. inaccurate color temp. and cannot adjust.
2. geometry errors cuasing minor artifacts (better on Panasonic and Samsung)
3. sub par SD
4. failed 2:3 pull down

Has anybody noticed this? As I have not seen any mention in this thread.

BillyBeatnik
09-19-07, 04:06 PM
Is there a reason why my 734 comes up in 1080i mode all the time? Is that a function of the DISH HD setup only sending 1080i signals?

That is the resolution from the source (DISH HD in this case). The 734 up converts all signals to 1080P.

beowulf7
09-19-07, 06:35 PM
Review of 65734 http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/mitsubishi-wd-65734/4505-6484_7-32450673.html?ar=o&tag=pdtl-list. Said that this years 734 (rating 7.6) is worst than last years 831 (rating 8.6)!

Problems:
1. inaccurate color temp. and cannot adjust.
2. geometry errors cuasing minor artifacts (better on Panasonic and Samsung)
3. sub par SD
4. failed 2:3 pull down

Has anybody noticed this? As I have not seen any mention in this thread.
Cool, so CNET finally reviewed a '734 TV. The 7.6 is pretty average :(, but the user reviews are at 9 so far (granted, only 3 reviews). :)

beowulf7
09-20-07, 03:44 PM
According to the CNET review, these are their recommended settings (http://help.cnet.com/9602-12576_39-0.html?messageID=2510321). I implemented all of this yesterday on my 57734, but have only watched SD material so far. The picture looks a lot less vibrant, probably due to the low contrast setting CNET recommends.

Below you'll find the settings we found best for viewing the Mitsubishi WD-65734 in a completely dark room via the HDMI input with a 1080i source. Your settings may very depending on source, room conditions, and personal preference.

Video settings menu

Picture mode: Natural
Contrast: 24
Brightness: 25
Color: 31
Tint: 29
Sharpness: 31
Color Temp: Low
DeepField Imager: Off


PerfectColor menu

Magenta: 34
Red: 37
Yellow: 35
Green: 40
Cyan: 29
Blue: 30


PerfectTint menu

Magenta: 21
Red: 22
Yellow: 29
Green: 15
Cyan: 36
Blue: 30


Global menu

Video Noise: Off
Video mute: On
Film Mode: Auto
Sharp Edge: Off
Lamp Mode: Standard


Setup menu

Energy Mode: Low Power

While this isn't gospel, it's the most detailed calibration settings I've seen yet in this thread. IOW, it's probably a good start, short of professional calibration.

Hipnotiq
09-20-07, 03:53 PM
According to the CNET review, these are their recommended settings (http://help.cnet.com/9602-12576_39-0.html?messageID=2510321). I implemented all of this yesterday on my 57734, but have only watched SD material so far. The picture looks a lot less vibrant, probably due to the low contrast setting CNET recommends.

I agree, contrast at 24 seems pretty low. The rest seems reasonable though.

Phireman19
09-20-07, 04:12 PM
I just got my 65734 today from HHGregg. Being delivered tomorrow. Can you guys point me to how to get into the service menu, and some of the funcitons, and any recommended settings ?

Thanks

seanpatrickb
09-20-07, 04:56 PM
I wouldn't mess with the service menu, not much point. I switched from close to the suggested setting in the thread here to close to cnet's color settings and i prefer the new ones. Although i did fine the green to be too light my taste, my settings for green are color:35 and tint:33

overthehill
09-21-07, 07:26 AM
I got my 73734 unit from HHGregg as well. Found out I had pincushion problems in 4:3. Did go to the service menu as suggested in this forum and made some adjustments which fixed most of it.

The problem I had was understanding where to set the cross hairs as there are green and yellow and white lines on the screen. Any help would be appreciated.

Also, anyone getting the service manual and if so, where did you get it and the cost, please.


One more thing, I got the $500 5 yr warranty from HHgregg and I'm thinking of cancelling it. I believe I can cancel it during their 10 day return policy.

Did anyone else get it? I understand it pays for all bulb replacements.

Thanks for any and all help.

ctcsoft
09-21-07, 09:38 AM
I got my 73734 unit from HHGregg as well. Found out I had pincushion problems in 4:3. Did go to the service menu as suggested in this forum and made some adjustments which fixed most of it.

The problem I had was understanding where to set the cross hairs as there are green and yellow and white lines on the screen. Any help would be appreciated.

Also, anyone getting the service manual and if so, where did you get it and the cost, please.


One more thing, I got the $500 5 yr warranty from HHgregg and I'm thinking of cancelling it. I believe I can cancel it during their 10 day return policy.

Did anyone else get it? I understand it pays for all bulb replacements.

Thanks for any and all help.


I apologize for anyone who read my posts. I'm an idiot and thought my 65734 TV had the high pitched fan/hum noise but it doesn't. It was a fan on my htpc.

As far as the HHGregg warranty, you can cancel it. I didn't get any extra warranty. I'm not a warranty type of guy. However maybe you should keep it just in case. Its not a bad idea on these newer TV's. I'm just a person who likes to roll the dice on almost every purchase. I rarely get burned. My 1st Gen Samsung DLP I bought refurb'd and I had a fan problem with it after 1 1/2 yrs. Never had a bulb or any other problem. Just a lousy fan.

Phireman19
09-21-07, 09:47 AM
I didn't get a warranty from HHGregg either, I am going to purchase one from an outside company. Alot cheaper with the same coverage.

ctcsoft
09-21-07, 10:06 AM
I didn't get a warranty from HHGregg either, I am going to purchase one from an outside company. Alot cheaper with the same coverage.

do tell... reputable company w/ good reputation?

seanpatrickb
09-21-07, 01:46 PM
I got the 3 year from hhgregg, and i will most likely use it to replace a bulb, which is about how much it costs. With a DLP its foolish not get an extended warranty, because its the equivalent of a bulb replacement, but it covers everything.

Phireman19
09-21-07, 02:17 PM
Got my TV today, and so far, not impresed. The humming noise is very very loud.

The picture seems dull. I have played with the settings some and plan on doing alot of tweaking tonight.

On my HTPC, it is really bad. I have it hooked up dvi->hdmi. It is really hard to read any windows tabs or anything, they are all grayed out really bad. When I like go into MY COMPUTER , it's hard to read the writing, it's not black, very gray.

Any suggestions, ideas.

DB62
09-21-07, 02:23 PM
Hi ...

I am a total newbie to the HDTV scene, so please bear with me. I have the Mitsubishi WD65734. I also have Charter HD Cable hooked up to it thru HDMI. Of course there are not that many channels available in HD yet, but the ESPN, ESPN2 and Discovery HD channels looked AWESOME!!! Then I went to my LOCAL HD stations. The Tonight Show with Jay Leno was on and it also looked AWESOME!!! (all of the above channels filled my entire screen WITHOUT any stretch options and the picture was truly High Def), but my ABC, CBS and Fox HD stations looked terrible like they were almost in SDTV and they also had black bars on the left and right side of the picture, like it was a 4x3 broadcast. YES, I was on the HDTV channels for these local stations. When Jay Leno was over on NBC the next pogram that I tuned into later also looked like SD with the bars and everything (it appeared like my other LOCAL channels that were coming in this way). Is this supposed to be like this. Is ESPN, ESPN2, Discovery Channel and only certain shows on local HDTV, TRULY broadcast in 16x9 High Def or is there a setting somewhere that I am missing. When I use the "stretch" option for these certain channels, it looks even worse and more pixelated. If this is normal with Charter Cable, would Direct HDTV Satelite show up the same way with my local HD Channels, or would it look like the ESPN HD Channels? Your suggestions or any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Dan

tlbowerts
09-21-07, 02:56 PM
Hi ...

I am a total newbie to the HDTV scene, so please bear with me. I have the Mitsubishi WD65734. I also have Charter HD Cable hooked up to it thru HDMI. Of course there are not that many channels available in HD yet, but the ESPN, ESPN2 and Discovery HD channels looked AWESOME!!! Then I went to my LOCAL HD stations. The Tonight Show with Jay Leno was on and it also looked AWESOME!!! (all of the above channels filled my entire screen WITHOUT any stretch options and the picture was truly High Def), but my ABC, CBS and Fox HD stations looked terrible like they were almost in SDTV and they also had black bars on the left and right side of the picture, like it was a 4x3 broadcast. YES, I was on the HDTV channels for these local stations. When Jay Leno was over on NBC the next pogram that I tuned into later also looked like SD with the bars and everything (it appeared like my other LOCAL channels that were coming in this way). Is this supposed to be like this. Is ESPN, ESPN2, Discovery Channel and only certain shows on local HDTV, TRULY broadcast in 16x9 High Def or is there a setting somewhere that I am missing. When I use the "stretch" option for these certain channels, it looks even worse and more pixelated. If this is normal with Charter Cable, would Direct HDTV Satelite show up the same way with my local HD Channels, or would it look like the ESPN HD Channels? Your suggestions or any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Dan

Not all HD Channels(like ABC, CBS etc) broadcast in HD all the time , some shows are in SD, if a show is in SD ,and you have the tv set to 4.3 , your get 4.3 when they broadcast in SD.

captainjy
09-21-07, 03:03 PM
Got my TV today, and so far, not impresed. The humming noise is very very loud.

The picture seems dull. I have played with the settings some and plan on doing alot of tweaking tonight.

On my HTPC, it is really bad. I have it hooked up dvi->hdmi. It is really hard to read any windows tabs or anything, they are all grayed out really bad. When I like go into MY COMPUTER , it's hard to read the writing, it's not black, very gray.

Any suggestions, ideas.

I would like to help, but I am just a little surprised in your experience with the TV. We just got a 57734 and though the PQ doesn't seem as sharp with cable, it looks amazing on our 360 and with HD-DVD. The colors are very rich and vibrant! I do notice some very slight lines when viewing a black blank screen, but nothing to get crazy about. Much better than the flickering issues we had to deal with on our 52628.

Phireman19
09-21-07, 03:06 PM
I don't know what the deal with it is, but yeah, the colors don't look rich and vibrant. And my PC looks very bad. The desktop looks ok, but it doesn't fit the TV, and I have tried the vertical and horizontal adjustments, and still can't get it to fit right. If I right clik on START, it's very difficult to read, the writing is almost as gray as the window box.

I am at a loss.

DB62
09-21-07, 03:28 PM
Not all HD Channels(like ABC, CBS etc) broadcast in HD all the time , some shows are in SD, if a show is in SD ,and you have the tv set to 4.3 , your get 4.3 when they broadcast in SD.

Thanks for the reply. My TV is set for 16x9. So if one of the local TV stations broadcast in SD (even though Im on my HD channels of my cable), should I still have the bars on each side of my picture? Thanks

Dan

broketoo
09-21-07, 03:42 PM
I don't know what the deal with it is, but yeah, the colors don't look rich and vibrant. And my PC looks very bad. The desktop looks ok, but it doesn't fit the TV, and I have tried the vertical and horizontal adjustments, and still can't get it to fit right. If I right clik on START, it's very difficult to read, the writing is almost as gray as the window box.

I am at a loss.

What Windows and theme are you using?

Phireman19
09-21-07, 03:47 PM
Windows XP pro, and Windows classic theme. I know this has nothing to do with it, it looked fine on my Samsung HLS6187 DLP that I had to send back. If I go into Control Panel -> Display and look at the Display Properties, all of the tabs and writing that's in the gray areas are very very hard to read, the letters are just about as gray as the box.

broketoo
09-21-07, 04:10 PM
Windows XP pro, and Windows classic theme. I know this has nothing to do with it, it looked fine on my Samsung HLS6187 DLP that I had to send back. If I go into Control Panel -> Display and look at the Display Properties, all of the tabs and writing that's in the gray areas are very very hard to read, the letters are just about as gray as the box.

Okay, reason why I'm asking is because I want to see what you mean. Now I do, I think - did you try resetting the classic theme back to default (as in reload the classic theme)? How does the picture/color look with DVE patterns or HD channels (or any source beside the HTPC)? I have HTPC as well but using regular xp theme with MCE shell.

Phireman19
09-21-07, 04:25 PM
I reset the theme to defaul, that made no difference. The clarity in HD is great, but the picture just looks dull, not vibrant. Everything seems to have a grayness to it. The picture just looks flat, ya know?!

SD, HD, HD movies from my PC all have the same problem.

How did you get your PC to fit the screen ? I have mine set to 1080p standard, and if I open the internet full screen, I can't see the top or or bottoomo bars of the window.

Does this TV do 1:1 pixel mapping? How much overscan ?

I'm gettting frustrated.

broketoo
09-21-07, 04:32 PM
I reset the theme to defaul, that made no difference. The clarity in HD is great, but the picture just looks dull, not vibrant. Everything seems to have a grayness to it. The picture just looks flat, ya know?!

SD, HD, HD movies from my PC all have the same problem.

How did you get your PC to fit the screen ? I have mine set to 1080p standard, and if I open the internet full screen, I can't see the top or or bottoomo bars of the window.

Does this TV do 1:1 pixel mapping? How much overscan ?

I'm gettting frustrated.

Yeah, should give good PQ as posters on this thread were raving about it. Dunno =\ I wish I could go over your house and see.

I didn't do anything about overscanning - I don't use desktop at all. I left it as is. MCE shell compensate for overscans. But if you have Nvidia card, you can go to display properties advanced and look around for desktop resize - what it does is actually decrease the resolution lower than 1920x1080 (to like 1898x1040 or something) but you should be able to see everything with that. ATI may have similar settings.

Well I think the TV does do 1:1 pixel mapping but I don't have this TV - I have the Toshiba model. Maybe I shouldn't post here but just wanted to help.

If you get the DVE disc, it'll tell you how much overscan. If you can see the top part of the taskbar by a sliver, you're getting about 2.5% overscan.

Hipnotiq
09-21-07, 04:42 PM
Not all HD Channels(like ABC, CBS etc) broadcast in HD all the time , some shows are in SD, if a show is in SD ,and you have the tv set to 4.3 , your get 4.3 when they broadcast in SD.

Thanks for the reply. My TV is set for 16x9. So if one of the local TV stations broadcast in SD (even though Im on my HD channels of my cable), should I still have the bars on each side of my picture? Thanks

Dan
Technically that station is still broadcasting in HD, but the content they are broadcasting is only SD.
Most likely your cable company has an SD version of those same channels. If you were to switch to those channels then your TV would switch to whatever format you had selected for SD (just as standard, or stretch, narrow...etc).
Your HD ABC channel will only have 2 format options. Standard and Wide Expand.
So you will always see black bars on the side.
...and BTW there is nothing wrong with black bars. Black bars are GOOD things. Strecth mode or any other similar makes ppl look short and fat or cut the tops of ppls heads off...
So for me...I leave SD on narrow mode and HD on standard.

Phireman19
09-21-07, 05:21 PM
Yeah, should give good PQ as posters on this thread were raving about it. Dunno =\ I wish I could go over your house and see.

I didn't do anything about overscanning - I don't use desktop at all. I left it as is. MCE shell compensate for overscans. But if you have Nvidia card, you can go to display properties advanced and look around for desktop resize - what it does is actually decrease the resolution lower than 1920x1080 (to like 1898x1040 or something) but you should be able to see everything with that. ATI may have similar settings.

Well I think the TV does do 1:1 pixel mapping but I don't have this TV - I have the Toshiba model. Maybe I shouldn't post here but just wanted to help.

If you get the DVE disc, it'll tell you how much overscan. If you can see the top part of the taskbar by a sliver, you're getting about 2.5% overscan.

I appreciate your help... I have a friend coming over tonight, who is alot more knowledgable about this stuff than I am. If I resize the desktop, do I lose resolution when I am playing my 1080p movies off my PC ? I don't want to lose any resoulution with my movies, that was the whole purpose of building it was for HD movies.

I think I have a Disc..it's an Avia calibration disc. It's a few years old though.

I hope we can get it figured out tonight, if not... sending it back and my go with the Toshiba then. The fan noise is annoying on my mitsu too .

Awenscelt
09-22-07, 03:06 AM
I bought this TV on Sunday and love the picture. From Sunday to Tuesday, I did not noticed the high pitch tone, but on Wednesday I noticed it. Now, I can't help but notice it all the time. My wife heard it too, and she was annoyed with me for pointing it out to her, as now she is tuned in to it like I am.

I wonder if they all make a relatively similar sound, and that perhaps some people don't detect that frequency as well. Now I'm not sure what to do about it, as I'm not convinced that exchanging it for another 65734 is not going to change anything for me. I guess what I am wondering is, is there anybody here who has heard the high pitch sound, exchanged it for another 65734, and then did NOT hear the sound with the replacement TV? Also, has anybody had an experience where the sound was "fixed" by a Mits tech?

One more question. If the high pitch sound is inescapable for me, what TV would be an adequate replacement at the same size. I don't like the Samsung LED displays. I think the Mits PQ, after tweaking the settings, is outstanding, so something similar would be nice.

Thanks in advance for input on any of my questions above.

broketoo
09-22-07, 10:00 AM
I bought this TV on Sunday and love the picture. From Sunday to Tuesday, I did not noticed the high pitch tone, but on Wednesday I noticed it. Now, I can't help but notice it all the time. My wife heard it too, and she was annoyed with me for pointing it out to her, as now she is tuned in to it like I am.

I wonder if they all make a relatively similar sound, and that perhaps some people don't detect that frequency as well. Now I'm not sure what to do about it, as I'm not convinced that exchanging it for another 65734 is not going to change anything for me. I guess what I am wondering is, is there anybody here who has heard the high pitch sound, exchanged it for another 65734, and then did NOT hear the sound with the replacement TV? Also, has anybody had an experience where the sound was "fixed" by a Mits tech?

One more question. If the high pitch sound is inescapable for me, what TV would be an adequate replacement at the same size. I don't like the Samsung LED displays. I think the Mits PQ, after tweaking the settings, is outstanding, so something similar would be nice.

Thanks in advance for input on any of my questions above.

I have seen reports from members with the noises and they swapped for a new one that doesn't have the noises.

kmtoner
09-22-07, 10:59 AM
I've had my 65734 for a week now and I still love it. Picture quality is SO much better than my old top of the line Pioneer Elite RPTV. Every HD channel is a delight on DirecTV. My OTA local HD channels are even better. I haven't upgraded my 480p Denon DVD player yet, but I'm amazed at how wonderful all the Pixar movies look on this set.

I admit that I was less blown away watching The Fifth Elemen superbit DVD last night. Something about seeing that 480p movie at 65 inches caused me to see more flaws. Hopefully I'll have some time this weekend to hook up my son's XBox 360 via HDMI and I'll rent a coupld of HD DVDs.

I'm not crazy about the Mitsubishi remote control. I've tried their Netcommand and IR repeater system and I'm still somewhat stumped on how to make it all work properly. I'm having much better luck programming my existing Universal Remote MX-850 to take over all commands. Sadly, I can't find any discrete codes for the various INPUTS on this set. It requires toggling up the INPUT selector and moving from DVD to Satellite using cursor keys. If anyone has found a Harmony or similar device that has programming for these discrete codes, please let me know.

So far, I'm happy I didn't spend the extra $1,000 for the Diamond version. I haven't noticed any problems from not having 120 mhz.

InfiniteThought
09-22-07, 12:29 PM
I haven't noticed any problems from not having 120 mhz.

Wow, 120 Mhz that's fast ! You mean to say 120 hz.

A big 'M' in front means mega, or millions, a small would be milli, or thousandths.

I'm headed out to check out the 733, 734, and 833. I can't decide if the "Dark Detailer", which is a dynamic iris, I believe is worth getting. I'd like to see the 120 mhz, I mean 120 hz in action myself. I probably want the 73" because my new house has a large great room.

ctcsoft
09-22-07, 11:43 PM
Can anyone post pictures of their HTPC hooked up to the 65734.

I got my 65734 but haven't been able to hookup my HTPC yet. Waiting on a few new components I ordered. HDMI out board and vista ultimate.

Would like to see pics and settings if possible. I also found out that I probably cannot get Dish service at my residence due to trees. So I'm stuck with the local cable company and their crappy HD content. Now I'll be really bummed if my HTPC won't cooperate either.

danielwd
09-23-07, 02:16 AM
Wow, 120 Mhz that's fast ! You mean to say 120 hz.

A big 'M' in front means mega, or millions, a small would be milli, or thousandths.

I'm headed out to check out the 733, 734, and 833. I can't decide if the "Dark Detailer", which is a dynamic iris, I believe is worth getting. I'd like to see the 120 mhz, I mean 120 hz in action myself. I probably want the 73" because my new house has a large great room.

Check out my new thread about viewing distance - I just started it tonight. I have a WD73734 and have noticed that the recommended 11 ft. viewing distance is not appropriate, that is in my humble opinion. When I am about 20 ft. away, the pic is perfect, 10 to 15 ft., and I think I see pixelation.

I kind of which I would have gotten a 65" now.

whdev
09-23-07, 05:33 AM
I've had my 65734 for a week now and I still love it. Picture quality is SO much better than my old top of the line Pioneer Elite RPTV. Every HD channel is a delight on DirecTV. My OTA local HD channels are even better. I haven't upgraded my 480p Denon DVD player yet, but I'm amazed at how wonderful all the Pixar movies look on this set.

I admit that I was less blown away watching The Fifth Elemen superbit DVD last night. Something about seeing that 480p movie at 65 inches caused me to see more flaws. Hopefully I'll have some time this weekend to hook up my son's XBox 360 via HDMI and I'll rent a coupld of HD DVDs.

I'm not crazy about the Mitsubishi remote control. I've tried their Netcommand and IR repeater system and I'm still somewhat stumped on how to make it all work properly. I'm having much better luck programming my existing Universal Remote MX-850 to take over all commands. Sadly, I can't find any discrete codes for the various INPUTS on this set. It requires toggling up the INPUT selector and moving from DVD to Satellite using cursor keys. If anyone has found a Harmony or similar device that has programming for these discrete codes, please let me know.

So far, I'm happy I didn't spend the extra $1,000 for the Diamond version. I haven't noticed any problems from not having 120 mhz.
the input discretes are in the ir database look for mits #13

captainjy
09-23-07, 05:52 AM
I haven't really gotten much of a response to this, but we have Comcast and I notice a pretty significant difference in PQ on our 57734 than our 52628. With the 734 I seem to notice what I would call a slight ghosting effect and an almost stutter. I don't notice this at all when watching an HD-DVD movie, but definitely do when watching many HD channels. I am not sure if this is related to our signal or as many of you Comcast subscribers know, the quality of the hardware, but there is a noticeable difference.

kmtoner
09-23-07, 11:37 AM
Wow, 120 Mhz that's fast ! You mean to say 120 hz.

A big 'M' in front means mega, or millions, a small would be milli, or thousandths.

I'm headed out to check out the 733, 734, and 833. I can't decide if the "Dark Detailer", which is a dynamic iris, I believe is worth getting. I'd like to see the 120 mhz, I mean 120 hz in action myself. I probably want the 73" because my new house has a large great room.
Hertz, schmertz, just tell me when my Indianapolis Colts are on in glorious HD! ;)

In other news, kudos to those above who posted recommended picture settings. Directv and old-fashioned DVDs are now looking glorious. I've decided I'm a fan of leaving Sharp Edge to ON (makes menus look much crisper if nothing else), DeepField Imager to ON (gives almost a 3D effect on some shows), and bumping up the reds a little bit (the CNET settings might be natural but they look a little too orange and dull to me).

InfiniteThought
09-23-07, 03:21 PM
When I am about 20 ft. away, the pic is perfect, 10 to 15 ft., and I think I see pixelation.

I kind of which I would have gotten a 65" now.


The spatial frequency of 73" diagonal or 64" and 1920 pixels wide display is 0.8745 um/px.

From 10 feet the pixel separation is 0.016 degrees. Normal visual acuity, or 20/20 vision is 1 arc minute or 1/60 of a degree, which is equal 0.017 degrees, very nearly the pixel separation.

If you have 20/20 vision or better, theory says it's possible to resolve pixels on a 73" 1080p display from 10 feet.

Yesterday I watched a Bluray demo loop on a 73733 from within 10 feet. However, I did not see pixels. BTW, I have perfect 20/12 vision.

Another way you can look at this issue is in comparison with computer displays. My Dell 2407 computer display is 20.5" and 1920 pixels wide.

From a 1 foot viewing distance the pixel separation is 0.05 degrees. Theory says I should definitely see pixels. Yet I don't notice pixels. Pixels are not a distraction in other words, which is really the important issue here.

What I suspect you are seeing as pixelation is aliasing artifacts from highly compressed video, such as an broadcast HD. I suggest you try a better HD source such as Bluray or HD DVD and I doubt you’ll experience this pixelation.

InfiniteThought
09-23-07, 03:35 PM
Update from my research trip yesterday.

I checked out the 733, 734 and 833 side by side.

To be honest I saw very little difference between them. I was hoping to see the displays with Dark Detailer have improved black levels. They all seemed to have very similar black levels.

What really sold me on this display was the 73733 running Bluray. The detail was incredible. Text was incredibly crisp, and the color and contrast had plenty of punch. I also got the opportunity to mess with the menu settings, and using the side by side mode you can see what all the various settings in the menu do as far as image processing. In this mode I found the image processing such as Deep Field I believe it was called, to make the images look somewhat unrealistic, but it's nice to know they can be turned off to give a more realistic representation.

One very popular electronics store had the 73734 for two-and-half kilobucks, which I thought was a good price.

captainjy
09-23-07, 10:28 PM
According to the CNET review, these are their recommended settings (http://help.cnet.com/9602-12576_39-0.html?messageID=2510321). I implemented all of this yesterday on my 57734, but have only watched SD material so far. The picture looks a lot less vibrant, probably due to the low contrast setting CNET recommends.



While this isn't gospel, it's the most detailed calibration settings I've seen yet in this thread. IOW, it's probably a good start, short of professional calibration.

Thanks for the info, but I have tried Natural and just don't like the lack of brightness. I am all about bright and vibrant and though I am not right in front of our 57734, I do know that we have ours set on Bright, sharpness is much higher than 31, contrast is also much higher, but brightness is at about 39. Sharp edges is ON. I like a sharp picture. When watching HD-DVD movies on our 360, they look amazing. Not overly thrilled with our Comcast PQ, especially not compared to our 52628, but it still looks very good.

And for those with the high pitch sound, I didn't think we had it, but we do, but it's only really noticeable for a few minutes and then it seems to go away.

danielwd
09-24-07, 01:08 AM
The spatial frequency of 73" diagonal or 64" and 1920 pixels wide display is 0.8745 um/px.

From 10 feet the pixel separation is 0.016 degrees. Normal visual acuity, or 20/20 vision is 1 arc minute or 1/60 of a degree, which is equal 0.017 degrees, very nearly the pixel separation.

If you have 20/20 vision or better, theory says it's possible to resolve pixels on a 73" 1080p display from 10 feet.

Yesterday I watched a Bluray demo loop on a 73733 from within 10 feet. However, I did not see pixels. BTW, I have perfect 20/12 vision.

Another way you can look at this issue is in comparison with computer displays. My Dell 2407 computer display is 20.5" and 1920 pixels wide.

From a 1 foot viewing distance the pixel separation is 0.05 degrees. Theory says I should definitely see pixels. Yet I don't notice pixels. Pixels are not a distraction in other words, which is really the important issue here.

What I suspect you are seeing as pixelation is aliasing artifacts from highly compressed video, such as an broadcast HD. I suggest you try a better HD source such as Bluray or HD DVD and I doubt you’ll experience this pixelation.

Wow, what a detailed explanation. Thanks.

I am not sure if it is artifacts or pixelation I am seeing, but when I watch a football game, the grass, especially from the highest camera shots look blurry and hazy at about 11 ft from the 73" screen. When I am 20 ft away, it is clear as can be, and I can see lumps of grass or just a clear sheet of green.

It could just be my eyes or I am too picky!

kmtoner
09-24-07, 08:53 AM
the input discretes are in the ir database look for mits #13
Thanks very much. Is the IR database here at AVS Forum, over at Remote Central.com or somewhere else?

beowulf7
09-24-07, 06:20 PM
I agree, contrast at 24 seems pretty low. The rest seems reasonable though.

I changed the "24" to "30" for contrast and kept the other #s as CNET recommended. Perhaps the thread starter can link to that CNET page as a recommended starting settings.

beowulf7
09-24-07, 06:25 PM
I bought this TV on Sunday and love the picture. From Sunday to Tuesday, I did not noticed the high pitch tone, but on Wednesday I noticed it. Now, I can't help but notice it all the time. My wife heard it too, and she was annoyed with me for pointing it out to her, as now she is tuned in to it like I am.

I wonder if they all make a relatively similar sound, and that perhaps some people don't detect that frequency as well. Now I'm not sure what to do about it, as I'm not convinced that exchanging it for another 65734 is not going to change anything for me. I guess what I am wondering is, is there anybody here who has heard the high pitch sound, exchanged it for another 65734, and then did NOT hear the sound with the replacement TV? Also, has anybody had an experience where the sound was "fixed" by a Mits tech?

One more question. If the high pitch sound is inescapable for me, what TV would be an adequate replacement at the same size. I don't like the Samsung LED displays. I think the Mits PQ, after tweaking the settings, is outstanding, so something similar would be nice.

Thanks in advance for input on any of my questions above.

My TV had the high pitched sound that came on as soon as the TV was turned on and wouldn't turn off until about 30 sec. after I shut off the TV (i.e. when the fan stopped spinning). About 35 hrs. of TV watching later, the high pitched sound is not quite as loud and does not come on until 15-30 min. after I start watching TV. It looks like as more and more I watch TV, that high-freq. sound doesn't come on as soon and isn't as loud. So maybe it will go away by itself altogether?

I still have the service call to a local authorized Mitsubishi repair shop and they're still waiting to receive the part.

On a separate note, while SDTV does not look good on my TV (57" from 9' away), watching 1080p up-converted DVD looks fantastic. I can only imagine what real hi-def would look like. :cool:

rx74ray
09-24-07, 10:17 PM
I am very close to buy this TV when I ran in to the recent Cnet review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/mitsubishi-wd-65734/4505-6484_7-32450673.html?tag=prod.txt.1

I personally watched a 65733 playing a demo DVD in 1080i and was blown away by the color richness, deep darks and bright whites.

on the cnet review they complain about the inaccurate color temp on the new model 734?!!

what do guys have to say about this review?

tlbowerts
09-24-07, 10:26 PM
I am very close to buy this TV when I ran in to the recent Cnet review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/mitsubishi-wd-65734/4505-6484_7-32450673.html?tag=prod.txt.1

I personally watched a 65733 playing a demo DVD in 1080i and was blown away by the color richness, deep darks and bright whites.

on the cnet review they complain about the inaccurate color temp on the new model 734?!!

what do guys have to say about this review?

Like any review, it's the opioion of one person, have both the 734 and 833 and both have PQ thats WOW, Colors, blacks and whites all look great to me and my family and this is what matters to me , not a opinion of one person! I buy what we think looks great!!

dklansky
09-25-07, 01:29 AM
I got the CC WD-Y657 version. It seems that the set has slight horizontal bowing in the middle. The straight horizontal line is curling up a little on the left and right side (more on the left). It is especially visible on the TV guide screen. Is there a way to fix that? I went into the service menu and adjusted the keystone (16 points plus 4:3 bars) but it doesn't fix the bowing. The lines are straight at the bottom and the top, they just bow in the middle.
I can probably live with it but for $2G I thought I could get a better viewing experience. I'm tires of swapping those tv's. I'm on my 4th one, the first two had terrible noise, third one had really bad bowing. This one is pretty decent except for the bowing. I'm ready to give up on Mitsu.

InfiniteThought
09-25-07, 02:07 AM
Wow, what a detailed explanation. Thanks.

I am not sure if it is artifacts or pixelation I am seeing, but when I watch a football game, the grass, especially from the highest camera shots look blurry and hazy at about 11 ft from the 73" screen. When I am 20 ft away, it is clear as can be, and I can see lumps of grass or just a clear sheet of green.

It could just be my eyes or I am too picky!

Grass is a difficult feature to compress. You will see lots of aliasing artifacts in grass on highly compress HD, espeacially if the camera is moving.

Until HD DVD and Bluray came around the public had really no access to uncompressed or perceptually lossless HD video. A 5 Mbit MPEG 2 fed just doesn't cut it for HD.

whdev
09-25-07, 07:22 AM
Thanks very much. Is the IR database here at AVS Forum, over at Remote Central.com or somewhere else?
I have a mx-900 and thought you had the mx-850. The codes are in the mx ir database under mits tv # 13. Also the forums at remote central tell you a code to enter on the mits remote to enable it to teach the the discrete inputs to a learning remote.

Nalow
09-25-07, 10:52 AM
What are the differences between the WD57733 and WD57734 sets?

Local store has the 733 in stock, but I keep hearing about the 734.... What gives?

tlbowerts
09-25-07, 11:17 AM
What are the differences between the WD57733 and WD57734 sets?

Local store has the 733 in stock, but I keep hearing about the 734.... What gives?

The 734 has more features, like 4 Hdmi inputs (733 has 3) PerfecTint, DarkDetailer, Net- Command, SharpEdge and 1 or 2 more

seanpatrickb
09-25-07, 03:22 PM
I am very close to buy this TV when I ran in to the recent Cnet review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/mitsubishi-wd-65734/4505-6484_7-32450673.html?tag=prod.txt.1

I personally watched a 65733 playing a demo DVD in 1080i and was blown away by the color richness, deep darks and bright whites.

on the cnet review they complain about the inaccurate color temp on the new model 734?!!

what do guys have to say about this review?

I think if you read this thread the PQ is the one thing pretty much no one has any complaints about. As others have said, i'd take that review for what it is, one person's opinion. If you liked the picture in the store you will be blown away at home.

danielwd
09-26-07, 09:45 PM
Grass is a difficult feature to compress. You will see lots of aliasing artifacts in grass on highly compress HD, espeacially if the camera is moving.

Until HD DVD and Bluray came around the public had really no access to uncompressed or perceptually lossless HD video. A 5 Mbit MPEG 2 fed just doesn't cut it for HD.

Actually I dont see the the blurriness in the grass when 15 to 20 ft away because that about doubles the viewing distance at the 720P range. I only see the blurriness when watching ESPN which broadcasts in 720P. When I watch football on ABC, NBC, or even FOX, no blurriness appears as all broadcast I believe in 1080i.

Phireman19
09-26-07, 11:31 PM
I am having issues with my TV not staying on the input I had it on when I turned the TV off. Twice now, I have been watching TV via satellite, turn it off, come back in the morning and when I turn the TV on, it's on the Antenna input.
And, at least 3 times on my HTPC, I have it set to 1080p standard, and when I turn off the TV and turn it on later, it will be on 1080p Reduced. Once today it did it, and when I tried hitting the format button, it wouldn't change it. So I turned the TV off, back on, and then it was on 1080p Standard. Any ideas of what's up ?

A service tech is supposed to be coming out for the high pitched whine.

Kabuto
09-27-07, 10:54 AM
I wonder if your satellite box is dropping the video signal at night. It might cause the TV not to sense anything on that Video port and default ton ANT?

Kabuto
09-27-07, 10:57 AM
I have a 65734. This is my first DLP set from past CRT RPTVs. Have only one small problem. When watching some shows (mainly darker scenes) I can notice something like an iris adjusting the brightness during show cuts. I have Dark Detailer off, so that shouldn't be doing it. Happened to notice it a lot during Bones last night, especially when they were in the darkened vault.

Phireman19
09-27-07, 11:26 AM
I wonder if your satellite box is dropping the video signal at night. It might cause the TV not to sense anything on that Video port and default ton ANT?

Hmmm, good question. It doesn't do it all the time though. Just happens peridocally.

captainjy
09-27-07, 04:47 PM
The 734 has more features, like 4 Hdmi inputs (733 has 3) PerfecTint, DarkDetailer, Net- Command, SharpEdge and 1 or 2 more

Is Darkdetailer the same as Deep Field Imager?

tlbowerts
09-27-07, 04:51 PM
Is Darkdetailer the same as Deep Field Imager?

No, They are two different things, most turn the Deep Field Imager off

captainjy
09-27-07, 04:52 PM
No, They are two different things, most turn the Deep Field Imager off

I am at a loss then. We have a 57734 and don't see the settings anywhere for it and the manual has no reference to where the settings are at.

tlbowerts
09-27-07, 04:59 PM
I am at a loss then. We have a 57734 and don't see the settings anywhere for it and the manual has no reference to where the settings are at.

For the Deep Field, go to menu, to AV, to Video settings, Will see Pic mode, is the last one down, It's no setting for DarkDetailer , it's on all the time, can't turn it off.

captainjy
09-27-07, 05:04 PM
Ok, great thanks! I know where Deep Field Imager is. Understand now, appreciate it!

njfoses
09-27-07, 05:29 PM
Can owners comment on the glare on the screen. I currently have a sony rptv from 5 years ago that i had to remove the glare screen from. My living room is bright most of the time. I know the 833 has the anti glare screen but im curious to know how bad the glare is with the 734.

Mike

tlbowerts
09-27-07, 06:02 PM
Can owners comment on the glare on the screen. I currently have a sony rptv from 5 years ago that i had to remove the glare screen from. My living room is bright most of the time. I know the 833 has the anti glare screen but im curious to know how bad the glare is with the 734.

Mike

I think the 734 does very good in a bright room, I have no problems anyawy.

big_screen_bill
09-28-07, 09:45 AM
I think the 734 does very good in a bright room, I have no problems anyawy.

Yeah our LR gets quite a bit of sun in the morning and our 65734 performs like a champ.

Ricknknox
09-28-07, 11:55 AM
Can owners comment on the glare on the screen. I currently have a sony rptv from 5 years ago that i had to remove the glare screen from. My living room is bright most of the time. I know the 833 has the anti glare screen but im curious to know how bad the glare is with the 734.

Mike
I have a long room, 12' x45" living room window, Two small french doors, and 10' x 45" Dinning room window, They get the full morning sun, Our old Phillips TV was unwatchable from the glare in the mornings. Had to put up Dark curtains.
Have 734 57". Glare was a major worry we had when looking for new TV. There is no glare, not sure what they used for anti glare, but it works,

captainjy
09-28-07, 01:41 PM
I really do like our 57734, but I finally found some time to mess with it more in detail and really scrutinize it. Over the last couple days, I seem to notice a stuttering thing going on, not just when watching cable, but when playing on our 360. It doesn't happen all the time and it's hard to explain. The best way to describe is when you are playing a video game and the game saves, there's a very slight hiccup in display while the game is saving, but this happens when watching cable or when playing a game that is not saving.

I don't have enough knowledge about these things so I am wondering if this is possible and what can cause this or are my eyes deceiving me?

Nalow
09-28-07, 04:56 PM
I really do like our 57734, but I finally found some time to mess with it more in detail and really scrutinize it. Over the last couple days, I seem to notice a stuttering thing going on, not just when watching cable, but when playing on our 360. It doesn't happen all the time and it's hard to explain. The best way to describe is when you are playing a video game and the game saves, there's a very slight hiccup in display while the game is saving, but this happens when watching cable or when playing a game that is not saving.

I don't have enough knowledge about these things so I am wondering if this is possible and what can cause this or are my eyes deceiving me?

I noticed this on the 65" version at Best Buy the other day, I thought it was just the cable feed they had going to it.... But didn't notice the other sets doing it.... ?

indy sabre
09-28-07, 07:05 PM
Anyone know if you really need a 1.3 cable for the WD65734?

From what i have read it seems you would only benefit from a 1.3 feed, I don't think the DCt6412 puts out 1.3 HDMI.

trapperjohnMD
09-28-07, 11:23 PM
Anyone know if you really need a 1.3 cable for the WD65734?

From what i have read it seems you would only benefit from a 1.3 feed, I don't think the DCt6412 puts out 1.3 HDMI.

nope...you can use the cheapest possible HDMI cable available.

sbender
09-28-07, 11:23 PM
I definitely have problems with glare during the day. It comes from the window that is directly behind me when I'm watching tv. Working on getting some dark curtains...

Buddy C
09-29-07, 03:05 PM
Can owners comment on the glare on the screen. I currently have a sony rptv from 5 years ago that i had to remove the glare screen from. My living room is bright most of the time. I know the 833 has the anti glare screen but im curious to know how bad the glare is with the 734.

Mike

If you have a direct light source reflection on the screen, there is glare that kills dark images. Our breakfast area is behind our family room, behind my seat opposite of the TV, and I have to make sure that hanging lamp is off. The screen does an excellent job with bright light sources from the side. I can have the sun shining directly on the screen from a side window and the picture is much better than my former CRT's (without the glare screen).

kmtoner
09-30-07, 10:50 AM
I think the 65734 does very well with glare and other room lighting issues, but in my experience glare will affect any tv to different degrees. Glass screen CRTs and plasmas have been unwatchable in our sunny upstairs family room. I was having similar issues with my Pioneer Elite RPTV in the basement until I removed the protective plastic cover screen. (Isn't it great when kids grow up and are no longer a threat to big boy toys?) The lack of dark velvet theater curtains and my wife's refusal to watch TV in a completely dark room convinced me to save a lot of dough and not install a projector and screen in the basement home theater room. :cool:

The 65734 has been the best TV we've owned in terms of glare issues. Still, if an afternoon beam of sunlight sneaks into the basement and hits it, I can certainly see the effects. I have all of the INPUTS set to Natural, so the Brilliant mode might be a solution in a bright room. Trouble is, I think I would not like the Brilliant mode's colors during evening darkness.

Dream1
09-30-07, 11:09 PM
Picked mine up from Ultimate Electronics yesterday. They came within 50 of the best online price, and they knocked off a few hundred from the Stand. I'm loving this set! Nice and bright! I was happy to find the game mode, which is awesome with the 360.

I do have some glare issues I have to work out, but it's not as bad as my Panasonic plasma.

I will say that the Audio is the worst part of this set. I am not going to use the TV's audio, but during testing I was checking it out....BLAH!!!! Crappy!

Vinylvision
10-01-07, 08:45 AM
I've had the 734 for two weeks. No glare problems in my setup. BUT AUDIO IS TERRIBLE. Inexcusibly awful audio for a set this big and costly. Everything sounds mono, so stereo separation. Audio does not get loud enough in big room. Difficult to understand some spoken dialogue. If you are considering this set, also plan on buying external speaker/receiver setup. This set has the worst audio of all the big widescreen sets I have ever owned (Toshiba, Samsung).

danielwd
10-01-07, 10:41 AM
I've had the 734 for two weeks. No glare problems in my setup. BUT AUDIO IS TERRIBLE. Inexcusibly awful audio for a set this big and costly. Everything sounds mono, so stereo separation. Audio does not get loud enough in big room. Difficult to understand some spoken dialogue. If you are considering this set, also plan on buying external speaker/receiver setup. This set has the worst audio of all the big widescreen sets I have ever owned (Toshiba, Samsung).

To be honest, I cant imagine a person buying such a tv and not forking out a few hundred dollars at least for a basic 5.1 surround sound system.

My friend has the 57734 and his sound was actually quite surprising to me. I thought it was pretty good but the room is small. I have never listened to my own tv's sound due to my Denon system.

Thugzie
10-01-07, 10:51 AM
Can anyone tell me how the PQ is on the 73734 on a standard signal. I currently have Directv (satellite).

tlbowerts
10-01-07, 11:00 AM
I've had the 734 for two weeks. No glare problems in my setup. BUT AUDIO IS TERRIBLE. Inexcusibly awful audio for a set this big and costly. Everything sounds mono, so stereo separation. Audio does not get loud enough in big room. Difficult to understand some spoken dialogue. If you are considering this set, also plan on buying external speaker/receiver setup. This set has the worst audio of all the big widescreen sets I have ever owned (Toshiba, Samsung).

I think the sound is about the same as any others I've had(Sony,Sam) or listen to, but for the JVC (seems to be a little better) and I'm with "danielwd" I can't imagine one would buy a set like this ,and not have at least a basic 5.1 setup!

tlbowerts
10-01-07, 11:05 AM
Can anyone tell me how the PQ is on the 73734 on a standard signal. I currently have Directv (satellite).

Pretty much like all the others(sony, sam etc) great on some channels, good on others, and so so on others. it's like WOW on all my HD channels

Roofus
10-01-07, 04:27 PM
Anyone know how to add the 3rd and 4th HDMI input to the Harmony 880 remote input selection list?

danielwd
10-01-07, 04:34 PM
Can anyone tell me how the PQ is on the 73734 on a standard signal. I currently have Directv (satellite).

After being addicted to HD, SD sucks. I hardly watch SD.

In fact, I will hardly rent a movie unless it is Blu-ray.

I'm afraid I've been majorly spoiled.

danielwd
10-01-07, 04:36 PM
Can owners comment on the glare on the screen. I currently have a sony rptv from 5 years ago that i had to remove the glare screen from. My living room is bright most of the time. I know the 833 has the anti glare screen but im curious to know how bad the glare is with the 734.

Mike

The bottom line is if you are going to invest in such an awesome tv, buy some dark curtains if you have to.

I hung blinds purposedly to darken my room. In 10 years from now I'll own a 70" LCD and wont have to worry about glare, but for now, I'll happily go with blinds!

captainjy
10-01-07, 06:59 PM
I noticed this on the 65" version at Best Buy the other day, I thought it was just the cable feed they had going to it.... But didn't notice the other sets doing it.... ?

Some of our problem must have been Comcast because it appears to be working fine now. I was a little concerned about this, but everything seems to be better now. I think the problem I was having on the 360 was with co-op in Halo because multiplayer is fine. Probably just a little paranoia...for now.

beowulf7
10-02-07, 01:38 PM
...

A service tech is supposed to be coming out for the high pitched whine.

Did your service tech fix the high-pitch whine? Mine hasn't come out a 2nd time to replace the part yet. I called him a week ago and he said he's still waiting for the part. I'll have to call him again ...

Also, I'm coming up on 30 days w/ my 57734 and am still deciding which extended warranty company to use. If I go w/ Mack, I need to get it really soon b/c they don't allow the warranty to be purchased after 30 days are up.

Buddy C
10-04-07, 07:53 PM
Does the standard one year warranty have any limits on the bulb or is it unconditionally covered for the first year?

Dream1
10-04-07, 07:56 PM
The bulb is covered for the full year according to the warranty documentation.


Unfortunately, my 65" is going back.......but they are bringing me a new one.

I have bad geometry issues. I think the screen is bowed.

andy sullivan
10-04-07, 08:03 PM
A Mits. rep just told me the 73" has a iris. Is this true?

tlbowerts
10-04-07, 08:14 PM
A Mits. rep just told me the 73" has a iris. Is this true?

Yes, the 734 and 833 have DarkDetailer, black lever iris. (all size, no only the 73")

andy sullivan
10-04-07, 09:18 PM
How about last years 732 series?

tlbowerts
10-04-07, 09:25 PM
How about last years 732 series?

Yes, it has DarkDetailer also, the models with DarkDetailer are 732,734, 831 and 833

Defraggerman
10-04-07, 09:59 PM
I assume that the Circuit City model wd-y577 doesn't have this feature.

tlbowerts
10-04-07, 10:04 PM
I assume that the Circuit City model wd-y577 doesn't have this feature.

You would assume right, it also does not have PerFecTint.

Phireman19
10-04-07, 10:44 PM
Service tech is coming out on Tuesday becuase of the loud whine from the TV. I have now noticed a bowing on the top of the picture. Kind of like a smily face, the 2 top corners are angled up. Is this something that the service tech can fix, or do I need a new TV ?

I have gone into the service menu and seen the options for geometry correction, but it didn't help.

Any my TV is still switching inputs by itself.

Oh, one last thing, is it normal for it to take FOREVER to switch channels or from one input to another? On average it takes mine about 7 seconds to change a channel or to switch from on input to another. Very annoying.

overthehill
10-05-07, 07:22 AM
Yes mine does it too

barth2k
10-06-07, 11:37 PM
anybody here seen this problem described in the 833 thread

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11833568&postcount=1041

a "golden glob" or "flashlight" effect seen on the screen while set is on or off?

the more I read, the more spooked out I get.

trapperjohnMD
10-07-07, 12:33 AM
anybody here seen this problem described in the 833 thread

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11833568&postcount=1041

a "golden glob" or "flashlight" effect seen on the screen while set is on or off?

the more I read, the more spooked out I get.

a globe on the screen while the TV is OFF???? who cares

danielwd
10-07-07, 12:44 AM
Service tech is coming out on Tuesday becuase of the loud whine from the TV. I have now noticed a bowing on the top of the picture. Kind of like a smily face, the 2 top corners are angled up. Is this something that the service tech can fix, or do I need a new TV ?

I have gone into the service menu and seen the options for geometry correction, but it didn't help.

Any my TV is still switching inputs by itself.

Oh, one last thing, is it normal for it to take FOREVER to switch channels or from one input to another? On average it takes mine about 7 seconds to change a channel or to switch from on input to another. Very annoying.

I have some bowing in my 73734 but I cant tell where it really makes a difference in the pic quality. I can tell it is bowed though because the right corner edge does not meet up with my entertainment center and bows back whereas the left corner matches flush with the entertainment center all the way up.

As for the TV switching inputs, I cant comment on that. It doesnt happen on my set and would make me nervous if it did. I think I would want a tech to come and look at that unless you can do some research on the net on this forum or others to find answers.

And I used to have issues with my channels taking some time to switch, but I changed a feature on my cable box to where my cable signal coming in is always at 1080i and that cut down the tv having to process the difference between 480p, 720p, and 1080 programs. Now my channels switch pretty good.

Phireman19
10-07-07, 10:02 AM
I'm gonna have the tech look at why the inputs are switching while he is here.

So you think I should set my satellite box to 1080i ? I have it on native now.

Thugzie
10-08-07, 09:24 AM
Guys I'm officially in the 73734 club! Delivery is coming at noon. I'll keep ya'll posted.

BTW. Anyone else in the market for one of these 73" bad boys should go check out Fry's this week. (NOT their website).

beowulf7
10-08-07, 01:32 PM
Service tech is coming out on Tuesday becuase of the loud whine from the TV. I have now noticed a bowing on the top of the picture. Kind of like a smily face, the 2 top corners are angled up. Is this something that the service tech can fix, or do I need a new TV ?

I have gone into the service menu and seen the options for geometry correction, but it didn't help.

Any my TV is still switching inputs by itself.

Oh, one last thing, is it normal for it to take FOREVER to switch channels or from one input to another? On average it takes mine about 7 seconds to change a channel or to switch from on input to another. Very annoying.

Good luck w/ the whine and let us know how that turns out. How many hours does your TV have? I noticed my high-pitched whine started to go away on its own after about 20-30 hrs. Now it comes on periodically, but is not as loud as it was when the TV was less than 20 hrs. old.

Good luck w/ the other stuff - I haven't noticed those geometry issues or such an exorbitant delay in changing channels. I have a 57734.

In related news, I just bought the Mack extended warranty through TapeWorks Texas.

rx74ray
10-09-07, 04:39 AM
Expecting my 65734 to arrive in about 10 days! very excited!

Thugzie
10-09-07, 09:12 AM
Got 73" 73734 yesterday. The size is IMPRESSIVE.

The PQ is only so/so with standard satellite. The PQ is much better with my standard DvD player which is still only 480i but none the less the PQ is really nice.

The wife is loving the PQ on dvd and has given me the green light to upgrade to HD sat.

Now my delima is which remote control to use. Do you guys use your Sat/Cable remote or the TV remote?

Pictures coming soon.

andy sullivan
10-09-07, 10:16 AM
Directv has a very nice optional ($25) back lighted remote available. See if they will throw it in when you order HD. TV remote is also good. It's nice to have two remotes all set up and easy to use.

Dream1
10-09-07, 10:34 AM
Well, I am a DLP quitter! I had a 65734 with a bowed screen and Geometry issues. I asked for a replacement at Ultimate Electronics. Yesterday they brought me a new Unit, it was DOA. WHAT????

The UE guys rushed me out another one, turn it on to a Bowed screen and geometry issues worse than the 1st.

I think it is a bad time to get into RPTV and DLP especially. In the move to slim down, it seems QC and Quality of parts has gone way down.

I am going back to Plasma/LCD.

Hipnotiq
10-09-07, 12:21 PM
Got 73" 73734 yesterday. The size is IMPRESSIVE.

The PQ is only so/so with standard satellite. The PQ is much better with my standard DvD player which is still only 480i but none the less the PQ is really nice.

The wife is loving the PQ on dvd and has given me the green light to upgrade to HD sat.

Now my delima is which remote control to use. Do you guys use your Sat/Cable remote or the TV remote?

Pictures coming soon.
I programmed my cable remote to control everything. works perfect.

mlinton
10-09-07, 12:35 PM
Got 73" 73734 yesterday. The size is IMPRESSIVE.

The PQ is only so/so with standard satellite. The PQ is much better with my standard DvD player which is still only 480i but none the less the PQ is really nice.

The wife is loving the PQ on dvd and has given me the green light to upgrade to HD sat.

Now my delima is which remote control to use. Do you guys use your Sat/Cable remote or the TV remote?

Pictures coming soon.
Congrats on the 73734. I just got my 73734 last week along with an Onkyo 705 and Toshiba HD-A30. Upgraded Mitsu from a 65 inch Mitsu Diamond Series. Picture is flat out awesome. A30 is going back for an A35 due to no HDMI 1.3 on A30. HD DVD on 73734 is unbelievable upgrade for me.

Kirby Baker
10-09-07, 12:42 PM
Hi everyone, I currently am looking at getting the WD-57734 to replace my old WS-55511 set. I wonder how all of you made the choice on the 734 series over the equivalent sized 833 Diamond? From what I can tell, the differences are minor (firewire, 120hz, pretty blue light). Is there more that I should be aware of? Probably nothing worthy of the $600+ difference in price right?

With the 734 series not having 120hz, whats the scoop with 1080/24P? I was also seriously looking at the Samsung HLT-5687S, but I think the Mits is a better choice (either model).

I do have a HTPC that will need to run on the TV for SageTV and bluray/hd-dvd playback, so I dont know if that makes any difference in which model to choose.

By the way, is it going to be like night and day with one of these new sets, and my WS-55511? I hope so! :)

beowulf7
10-09-07, 01:39 PM
Hi everyone, I currently am looking at getting the WD-57734 to replace my old WS-55511 set. I wonder how all of you made the choice on the 734 series over the equivalent sized 833 Diamond? From what I can tell, the differences are minor (firewire, 120hz, pretty blue light). Is there more that I should be aware of? Probably nothing worthy of the $600+ difference in price right?

With the 734 series not having 120hz, whats the scoop with 1080/24P? I was also seriously looking at the Samsung HLT-5687S, but I think the Mits is a better choice (either model).

I do have a HTPC that will need to run on the TV for SageTV and bluray/hd-dvd playback, so I dont know if that makes any difference in which model to choose.

By the way, is it going to be like night and day with one of these new sets, and my WS-55511? I hope so! :)

tlbowerts has both the '734 and '833, so he can give you his 1st hand exp. From what I remember him saying, unless you play video games, you probably won't see a difference between the '734 and '833. Since I don't play games and I wouldn't mind saving several hundred $, I went w/ the '734. Now I just need get to get hi-def service (most likely OTA HD) to really make the TV shine. The best I've done so far is getting a high-quality up-converting DVD player to play DVDs at 1080p.

Gregor10
10-09-07, 01:40 PM
Has anyone tried to replace the lamp fan to eliminate the high pitch sound on a WD-73734? I've been contemplating it since it looks like a regular computer fan.

Thugzie
10-09-07, 03:26 PM
Hi everyone, I currently am looking at getting the WD-57734 to replace my old WS-55511 set. I wonder how all of you made the choice on the 734 series over the equivalent sized 833 Diamond? From what I can tell, the differences are minor (firewire, 120hz, pretty blue light). Is there more that I should be aware of? Probably nothing worthy of the $600+ difference in price right?

With the 734 series not having 120hz, whats the scoop with 1080/24P? I was also seriously looking at the Samsung HLT-5687S, but I think the Mits is a better choice (either model).

I do have a HTPC that will need to run on the TV for SageTV and bluray/hd-dvd playback, so I dont know if that makes any difference in which model to choose.

By the way, is it going to be like night and day with one of these new sets, and my WS-55511? I hope so! :)

The 734 is 60hz. My understanding is that the +60 more hz is mostly for gaming. I decided to keep $600 bucks in my pocket for that little difference.

Kirby Baker
10-09-07, 03:30 PM
I have both (734 and 833) and have a post in 833 thread of a test i did beween the two,if you would like to read it, the 120Hz (my opinion) makes more of a different with gaming,also if you want PIP, it's only on the 833, as for as Judder on HD-DVD , I don't really see much, if any, with and without the 120Hz.

The 734 is 60hz. My understanding is that the +60 more hz is mostly for gaming. I decided to keep $600 bucks in my pocket for that little difference.

Well I do game some, from an XBOX 360. I guess the question would be, is gaming on the 734 a horrible experience, or is it like gaming on a PC with an LCD vs. Tube monitor and the trailing images that I never saw on the LCD screen? The TV is mostly for TV/movies, game play is limited (not daily or even weekly sometimes).

tlbowerts
10-09-07, 09:56 PM
Well I do game some, from an XBOX 360. I guess the question would be, is gaming on the 734 a horrible experience, or is it like gaming on a PC with an LCD vs. Tube monitor and the trailing images that I never saw on the LCD screen? The TV is mostly for TV/movies, game play is limited (not daily or even weekly sometimes).

No, gaming is not a horrible experience on the 734, it does fine, not as good as the 833, a little motion blur on some games, but nothing that's a big deal .
if your a big time gamer you may want to go with the 833, if not ,i think the 734 does fine.

jayman050800
10-10-07, 09:59 AM
yea, I just got back from vacation.....been gone since Sunday and I had been watching to on a 27 tube all week. Its was driving me crazy! I still love the TV and cannot hear the loud humming all of you guys are getting. I asked my wife to listen for it too and she says that she can only hear it when the tv is paused or the volume is all the way down.

Am I the only one that did not return this TV?

Nope...I've got a slight whining noise on my set too, more than likely due to the cooling fan since it runs for about 90 seconds after the set is shut off. My wife can't hear it, it's a very high frequency noise...

N123
10-10-07, 01:20 PM
Just wanted to throw in my two cents:

I have the 73734 (purchased in September 07), and this TV is amazing, especially with quality video sources such as HD. I have no geometry issues, and no issues with the whine sound.

This post is not to deny the existence of these problems for others, but to point out that there are many 734 owners who don't have any problems and love their sets.

There is always a bias in these threads that could make the reader think that many/all of the sets are defective: people who have defective sets are more likely to post than the people who have normal functioning sets.

N123

Thugzie
10-10-07, 02:56 PM
Had our first guests over last night to check out a movie. The WOW factor was in full play. After just a few days and not much tinkering I'm am lovin' this TV (73734). I'm so glad I went w/ the 73" instead of the 65" so far.

I used to hate letterbox on my smaller tv's. On this TV the picture is so large I can hardly tell letterbox is there.

elrizzo
10-10-07, 05:06 PM
Hello all,

While I love my 65734 (it's freaking huge!), watching SD is a bit of a spoiler for me. At times it is unbearable.

Has anyone heard of switching over to something like S-video for SD and keeping the HDMI for HD?

Phireman19
10-10-07, 06:39 PM
The service tech came out yesterday for the high picthced whine. He said he could hear it, but sounded normal to him. Said he would call Mitsubishi today and see what they say about it.

He called me back today, said he spoke with Mitsubishi and that it's normal and I am basically out of luck.

When he was out at my house, he acted like he didn't want to be there, didn't really want to hear what I had to say about it. He was like, "yeah I hear it, but when I move back further from your TV, I don't hear it anymore". I said, "well I hear it all the time, and it's very annoying." He then said, "well do you hear it with the volume turned up?" I said yes.

Then today he said maybe you could get some foam padding and put it behind your TV and maybe it will drown out the sound.

I think this is a bunch of B.S. What do you guys think I should do ?

andy sullivan
10-10-07, 07:56 PM
Relay your experience to the store manager where you bought the TV. Contact Mitsubishi and share your concerns. If you get no satisfaction, drop the BBB hammer on them. They really don't like that.

Phireman19
10-10-07, 09:08 PM
I think I am gonna call the store and go from there.

Calamus
10-10-07, 09:39 PM
I really want a 65734 and the price is right, but these problems are making me a bit nervous. If I get a "good" one out of the box (no bow, no hum, no screen flecks), I have a few questions...

1. From a tech standpoint how does the life of the 65734 generation sets compare to the OLD crt projection sets? My current rear projection set is a 10+ years old set that still works and has a good picture for SD only. I've never had it serviced, it just works.

2. Is an extended warrenty a "must have" for the value and what's the best one for this set?

andy sullivan
10-10-07, 10:16 PM
This is not 100% true but for the most part, when you put in a new bulb you get a like new TV. I say yes on the EW and make sure it includes one new bulb replacement.

tlbauerle
10-10-07, 10:26 PM
The service tech came out yesterday for the high picthced whine. He said he could hear it, but sounded normal to him. Said he would call Mitsubishi today and see what they say about it.

He called me back today, said he spoke with Mitsubishi and that it's normal and I am basically out of luck.

When he was out at my house, he acted like he didn't want to be there, didn't really want to hear what I had to say about it. He was like, "yeah I hear it, but when I move back further from your TV, I don't hear it anymore". I said, "well I hear it all the time, and it's very annoying." He then said, "well do you hear it with the volume turned up?" I said yes.

Then today he said maybe you could get some foam padding and put it behind your TV and maybe it will drown out the sound.

I think this is a bunch of B.S. What do you guys think I should do ?

I agree that is total Bull. The thing to complain about is that this tech told you to put foam padding behind the TV. Ugh...its DLP and puts off a ton of heat and needs the space to properly vent. That really sounds like a dumb tech, to me, and that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

Vinylvision
10-11-07, 01:17 PM
I suggest your record your Mitsubishi 734 sound whine, Post the recording here so we can listen to it, and survey members whether or not their 734 sounds the same or if it is a problem. Tell Mitsubishi you are going to do this unless you get satisfaction. There is strength in numbers. I feel outraged that you are being treated this way. If you are still within the return period, I would return it and get a replacement until you get a 734 that you like. My 734 does not whine and my picture is great. WHATEVER HAPPENS, GET MITSUBISHI TO PUT THEIR DECISION IN WRITING AND POST IT HERE.


The service tech came out yesterday for the high picthced whine. He said he could hear it, but sounded normal to him. Said he would call Mitsubishi today and see what they say about it.

He called me back today, said he spoke with Mitsubishi and that it's normal and I am basically out of luck.

When he was out at my house, he acted like he didn't want to be there, didn't really want to hear what I had to say about it. He was like, "yeah I hear it, but when I move back further from your TV, I don't hear it anymore". I said, "well I hear it all the time, and it's very annoying." He then said, "well do you hear it with the volume turned up?" I said yes.

Then today he said maybe you could get some foam padding and put it behind your TV and maybe it will drown out the sound.

I think this is a bunch of B.S. What do you guys think I should do ?

beowulf7
10-11-07, 03:16 PM
Based on my experience, the high-pitch whine will go away on its own (or become less prevalent) after the TV is 20-30 hrs. old. My TV is now around 50 hrs. old and either I've gotten so used to it I subconsciously filter out that sound or it has gone away on its own.

The local service shop who made 1 trip to my house to 1st examine the problem has not called me back since we spoke a week after that visit. If the whine doesn't come back w/ a vengeance, I won't bother calling them back.

tlbauerle
10-12-07, 01:02 AM
Based on my experience, the high-pitch whine will go away on its own (or become less prevalent) after the TV is 20-30 hrs. old. My TV is now around 50 hrs. old and either I've gotten so used to it I subconsciously filter out that sound or it has gone away on its own.

The local service shop who made 1 trip to my house to 1st examine the problem has not called me back since we spoke a week after that visit. If the whine doesn't come back w/ a vengeance, I won't bother calling them back.

I have around 50 hours too, and the sound is still there. It takes longer for the sound to build, but it is certainly present and accounted for.

beowulf7
10-12-07, 01:45 PM
I have around 50 hours too, and the sound is still there. It takes longer for the sound to build, but it is certainly present and accounted for.

50 hrs. later, is the sound as loud as when you first experienced it?

c_hale
10-12-07, 01:48 PM
Hello,

I bought this model online Sept 2007, and was extremely happy with the picture quality. It's got a very pretty picture, just like you see on this thread.

Got the first TV, and the most annoying and very loud hum started about 30 minutes after setup in my family room. No question about just living with it. I setup the return the next day, and simply asked for another. Got the second unit, and it was a more subtle hum straight outta the box, but it would vary in pitch/intensity after being on for a bit. Most of the time I coulda lived with it, but there was approx 10-20% of the time that it was just plain unacceptable and annoying. I tried the 2nd one for two weeks, hoping I could get over it. But I sent it back too. I don't think it was just me being picky, my wife felt the same way, and when the 2nd unit arrived, my 8yr old boy said "This one buzzes too". See User Reviews on Amazon for the 65733 model, my feelings exactly and made me feel better after I saw them, as in "I'm not really being a lunatic".

I felt bad returning them, cause I liked it - a lot. I saw a Mfr date of July07 on the 2nd model. Called Mits, no help really. The online store has been great about the returns/shipping, and I'll buy the new Sony KDS-60A3000 from them once its in stock, I'm thinking...

If yours doesn't buzz or it doesn't bother you then congratulations on a having a nice set - I did really like everything else about it. Just thought I'd throw this note out there....

Curt

gyver65
10-12-07, 02:34 PM
I bought the 57734 about 2 & 1/2 weeks ago from a local HHGregg store. I got them to through the stand in for free. I have over 100 hours on the bulb and have never heard any noise. (Knock on wood).

captainjy
10-12-07, 07:43 PM
I am very happy with the PQ of the our 57734, but am I the only one who thinks Mitsubishi's quality is shoddy? We just got our 57734 about a month ago and I hear a high pitched sound for about 30-60 seconds and it goes away, great, but just last night, I noticed when going to black, there is what I would call a burn-in looking thing in the center of that takes up about 2/3 of the screen. Fortunately, it's not really noticeable until the screen goes to black between shows. This will probably be the last Mitsubishi TV we buy.

captainjy
10-12-07, 07:50 PM
Well I do game some, from an XBOX 360. I guess the question would be, is gaming on the 734 a horrible experience, or is it like gaming on a PC with an LCD vs. Tube monitor and the trailing images that I never saw on the LCD screen? The TV is mostly for TV/movies, game play is limited (not daily or even weekly sometimes).

I have a 360 with the 57734 and I am a very anal person. I don't have one problem with any game on the 360. I have not seen any motion blur or ghosting at all. Gaming isn't horrible at all. It's great, actually! We had a 52628 and I will tell you that the color on the 57734 is so much more rich and vibrant. I am very happy with it overall, except for the burn-in thing and the lack of quality Mitsubishi seems to have.

Phireman19
10-12-07, 08:37 PM
I agree that is total Bull. The thing to complain about is that this tech told you to put foam padding behind the TV. Ugh...its DLP and puts off a ton of heat and needs the space to properly vent. That really sounds like a dumb tech, to me, and that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.


Yeah, can you believe he would even suggest that !? What an idiot. I am calling HHGregg on Monday. If I get nowhere with them, then I am calling Mitsubishi. My picture has even more bowing across the top now too. My father even noticed it today.

I think it's impossible to get a "great" TV that doesn't have some kind of issues, humming, bowing, something......

tlbowerts
10-12-07, 08:38 PM
I am very happy with the PQ of the our 57734, but am I the only one who thinks Mitsubishi's quality is shoddy? We just got our 57734 about a month ago and I hear a high pitched sound for about 30-60 seconds and it goes away, great, but just last night, I noticed when going to black, there is what I would call a burn-in looking thing in the center of that takes up about 2/3 of the screen. Fortunately, it's not really noticeable until the screen goes to black between shows. This will probably be the last Mitsubishi TV we buy.

I think the Quality on the Mit is about the same as the others.( Sam'a JVC, Sony etc.)

renesisX
10-13-07, 01:53 AM
DLPs response times are measured in microseconds which are smaller than milliseconds, which LCD response times are measure by. You shouldn't experience ghosting on a DLP tv at all.

barth2k
10-13-07, 12:57 PM
I am very happy with the PQ of the our 57734, but am I the only one who thinks Mitsubishi's quality is shoddy? We just got our 57734 about a month ago and I hear a high pitched sound for about 30-60 seconds and it goes away, great, but just last night, I noticed when going to black, there is what I would call a burn-in looking thing in the center of that takes up about 2/3 of the screen. Fortunately, it's not really noticeable until the screen goes to black between shows. This will probably be the last Mitsubishi TV we buy.

the high pitched sound may be a problem if it gets worse.

however, DLP canNOT burn in. It's just light reflected off mirrors. the mirrors don't wear out like phosphors. they could malfunction and you get dead pixels, but there's no uneven wear.

I'm guessing you were watching a channel that shows mixed 4:3 and HD content like ABC, as opposed to one that shows HD all the time like discovery HD theater, right? This happens as you say when they switch b/t shows or go to commercial. I think what's happening is the station is broadcasting a 4:3 blank screen flanked by black pillar bars. The pillar bars are darker than the 4:3 area, so you think you have burn in. But you don't. It's not possible with DLP.

kc34
10-14-07, 11:17 AM
Can anyone tell me how I can get my hands on a service manual for a 734

InfiniteThought
10-14-07, 11:33 AM
Guys I'm officially in the 73734 club! Delivery is coming at noon. I'll keep ya'll posted.

BTW. Anyone else in the market for one of these 73" bad boys should go check out Fry's this week. (NOT their website).


I was in Fry's yesterday and the price was $3699.

tlbowerts
10-14-07, 11:34 AM
Can anyone tell me how I can get my hands on a service manual for a 734

"ServiceManual.net", Download for $15.99

kjahadi
10-14-07, 01:28 PM
I am very happy with the PQ of the our 57734, but am I the only one who thinks Mitsubishi's quality is shoddy? We just got our 57734 about a month ago and I hear a high pitched sound for about 30-60 seconds and it goes away, great, but just last night, I noticed when going to black, there is what I would call a burn-in looking thing in the center of that takes up about 2/3 of the screen. Fortunately, it's not really noticeable until the screen goes to black between shows. This will probably be the last Mitsubishi TV we buy.

Its a light reflection. I also see it when the screen fades to black... its very faint though. My other DLP tv had a similar issue... I think its just the nature of DLP. Yet another issue for DLP I suppose... not that its a big deal.

beowulf7
10-15-07, 02:29 PM
This is a quick update. I fed my TV native hi-def for the first time. (Before, it was doing 1080p through an up-converting DVD player.) I bought an antenna and hooked it up to ANT1. The PQ is great. However, I noticed that the color, tint, and other picture settings were reset. I've turned off the TV (i.e. powered down the UPS it's connected to) in the past when going on vacation, so that the standby power doesn't run up my power bill. Does disconnecting the TV from power like that cause some settings to be reset? Remarkably, the clock was not reset (I set it manually as opposed to auto). What gives?

But in any case, I'm happy w/ the PQ w/ OTA HD. :cool:

JetSnake
10-15-07, 06:40 PM
Can the XX734 display 1080p through it's component input? Or do you have to hook with HDMI to do this?

I'm looking at pulling the trigger on a 65734 to hook my Xbox 360 to. Anyone have a 360 hooked to theirs with any complaints? How is the lag, component vs. HDMI? My 360 only has component but might up-grade.

njfoses
10-15-07, 07:01 PM
Can the XX734 display 1080p through it's component input? Or do you have to hook with HDMI to do this?

I'm looking at pulling the trigger on a 65734 to hook my Xbox 360 to. Anyone have a 360 hooked to theirs with any complaints? How is the lag, component vs. HDMI? My 360 only has component but might up-grade.

I have the 73833 which is similar. It will only do 1080i through component but the tv will upscale to 1080p anyway. I have zero lag when playing through component on my 360. There may be a slight improvement with hdmi but i dont think it is worth buying a new xbox for.

Mike

Duke42
10-15-07, 07:21 PM
Hi all, Could some of you Pro's out there post how you have your set configured. Settings,what is on ,and off. Please advise, Thank you, Duke

Phireman19
10-15-07, 10:17 PM
This is a quick update. I fed my TV native hi-def for the first time. (Before, it was doing 1080p through an up-converting DVD player.) I bought an antenna and hooked it up to ANT1. The PQ is great. However, I noticed that the color, tint, and other picture settings were reset. I've turned off the TV (i.e. powered down the UPS it's connected to) in the past when going on vacation, so that the standby power doesn't run up my power bill. Does disconnecting the TV from power like that cause some settings to be reset? Remarkably, the clock was not reset (I set it manually as opposed to auto). What gives?

But in any case, I'm happy w/ the PQ w/ OTA HD. :cool:

You have to set your picture settings for each input.

akrias
10-15-07, 10:38 PM
I am very happy with the PQ of the our 57734, but am I the only one who thinks Mitsubishi's quality is shoddy? We just got our 57734 about a month ago and I hear a high pitched sound for about 30-60 seconds and it goes away, great, but just last night, I noticed when going to black, there is what I would call a burn-in looking thing in the center of that takes up about 2/3 of the screen. Fortunately, it's not really noticeable until the screen goes to black between shows. This will probably be the last Mitsubishi TV we buy.

I have this as well on my 73833 among other problems. I HATE this glaring light reflection on black screnes. I found that I can reproduce this effect at will on a black screen by simply pressing the info button to get the Mits resolution screen to pop up in the upper left corner. As soon as I do, it is as if someone is holding a flashlight inside of my tv pointed toward the screen and upward. Mitsubishi needs to get their act together.

beowulf7
10-16-07, 01:35 PM
You have to set your picture settings for each input.

Oh yes, I forgot about that! :o That means my HDMI settings should still be there. I hadn't configured the ANT1 setting before I got the antenna on Sun.

Thanks.

beowulf7
10-16-07, 01:37 PM
Hi all, Could some of you Pro's out there post how you have your set configured. Settings,what is on ,and off. Please advise, Thank you, Duke

While I'm far from a pro, I posted the settings from a CNET link someone else linked to several pages ago. If I get a chance, I'll search for it. Otherwise, search for posts made by me in this thread from the last few weeks or month.

Edit: Here are CNET's recommended settings (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11680739#post11680739) for the '734.

Thugzie
10-16-07, 04:12 PM
I was in Fry's yesterday and the price was $3699.

WoW. Technically I don't think we're allowed to talk about pricing here. But the promotion I was talking about was on the 73734 for one thousand less that price. Then promotion ended 10/9. It's the second time they've run that promotion (in store only) in the last month. I would guess they'll run it again in November?

btw, I got mine for 400 less that including tax, delivery, and 5 yr plan that includes annual bulb replacement :)

I've had my set on maybe 40 hrs and the only time I can hear the fan is when I have the sound off and I'm standing 3 feet from the TV. I'm very happy so far. The wow factor is over the top and I don't even have HD yet! I can't wait until I get the right hook up.

Vader
10-16-07, 05:34 PM
Where is the best place online to order a replacement lamp for my 65734? I bought the extended warranty that includes lamps, but from what I have heard, it can take a couple weeks to get the lamp replaced. I know it will cost me more money, but when my bulb does go out, I'd like to have a lamp on hand to use during the turnaround time to get a new lamp through the warranty.

Phireman19
10-16-07, 09:24 PM
I talked to HHGregg today, they said they will contact the service company that came out and they will see what they have to say and then they will figure out someting to do for me, and will contact me this week.

We'll see ?!?!

tlbowerts
10-16-07, 09:35 PM
Where is the best place online to order a replacement lamp for my 65734? I bought the extended warranty that includes lamps, but from what I have heard, it can take a couple weeks to get the lamp replaced. I know it will cost me more money, but when my bulb does go out, I'd like to have a lamp on hand to use during the turnaround time to get a new lamp through the warranty.

I read that the "All DLP lampstore"(e-bay) has the Bulb without Housing for $129.00, if order from Mit, $249.00 with Housing

barth2k
10-17-07, 01:00 AM
I am very happy with the PQ of the our 57734, but am I the only one who thinks Mitsubishi's quality is shoddy? We just got our 57734 about a month ago and I hear a high pitched sound for about 30-60 seconds and it goes away, great, but just last night, I noticed when going to black, there is what I would call a burn-in looking thing in the center of that takes up about 2/3 of the screen. Fortunately, it's not really noticeable until the screen goes to black between shows. This will probably be the last Mitsubishi TV we buy.

I think maybe I misunderstood what you mean by burn in. Is this "burn-in thing" rectangular or is it oval? If it's oval or cone-shaped then I think it's something else entirely.

Thugzie
10-17-07, 11:16 AM
Where is the best place online to order a replacement lamp for my 65734? I bought the extended warranty that includes lamps, but from what I have heard, it can take a couple weeks to get the lamp replaced. I know it will cost me more money, but when my bulb does go out, I'd like to have a lamp on hand to use during the turnaround time to get a new lamp through the warranty.

Has anyone with a 734 gone through a bulb replacement yet? Does the bulb just go dead? Or is there some warning signs, like color being off, banding, or whatever?

Chahlie
10-17-07, 11:38 AM
Mit tech is saying this issue can be fix in your home , and on ones being send out to stores now the issue have been resolved, but if it was me and only 2-3 days old , i'd replaced it with another!! Also the humming does go away sometimes in 2 to 7 days.
It's a very good settings and tweaks thread here for Mit, 732,734,831 amd 833's, look at the 1st 2 to 3 pages

Hey all...newbie here :) :)

I just picked up the 57734 from Frys last night and brought it home - the noise is definitely noticeable. I've read through a bunch of the pages in this thread, but I cannot remember coming across someone that had the noise in their set reduced enough to make it livable in that 2-7 day time period. Is there anyone that's waited that long and had it resolved?

Another question on watching SD content - there's a wavy line running down the right side of the picture in letter box...is that normal and is there anything I can do about it?

I have some geometry issues as well - need to find the page where that's discussed (and the service menu entrance to correct).

The information posted here has been very helpful - I hope I can get the gremlins sorted on the 734 as it's a very nice set :D :D

beowulf7
10-17-07, 02:07 PM
Chahlie, the high-pitched noise was very noticeable for the first 20-30 hrs. of the TV. Since then, it comes and goes. And even when it comes, it's a lot quieter and less noticeable than it was the first couple weeks.

A quick question for '734 owners: Is there a way to display the signal strength indefinitely? When I press "Info" on the remote control, it shows the signal strength (via the ANT1 input) for only a few seconds, before that screen disappears. If I'm going to fine tune the antenna, I need that info. to be displayed indefinitely. TIA.

Also, I noticed the pause button is the only one in the bottom of the RC that actually does anything: it freezes the screen. The other buttons, such as play, record, fast forward, rewind, are useless. :mad:

captainjy
10-17-07, 05:29 PM
I think maybe I misunderstood what you mean by burn in. Is this "burn-in thing" rectangular or is it oval? If it's oval or cone-shaped then I think it's something else entirely.

It's rectangular, in the center of the screen and it's not necessarily symmetrical. It looks like something burned into the screen and that's strange because never, ever leave the Xbox or anything else on that would burn into it.

JetJock3315
10-18-07, 09:43 AM
Greetings

I have the 73734 (which has a beautiful picture) and was wondering if anyone has been able to send a PC signal to the TV without having to change the input type to PC.

I also have an Onkyo 905 AVR which has built in 4x2 HDMI switching (as well as upconverts and can send everything out via HDMI) which I use to manage connections between the sources and the 73734 and a front PJ. So, I only need to send one cable out to each display.

Problem is the Mits will not display the PC signal unless I change the input type to PC. I am not smart enough to know how the TV knows it is a PC signal even if I run it through the Onkyo set to output 1080P. I've tried numerous resolutions with no luck.

I really don't want to run a separate cable to a dedicated PC input on the 73734 as that kills my ability to swap to the PJ when desired (without adding in another switch into the mix).

I am running an ATI 1300 card in the HTPC and was wondering if upgrading to a newer HDCP capable card with an HDMI output might solve it. But, it would be of no use if the TV will not accept a PC signal unless the input type is set to PC.

If there was a discrete IR code to set the input type, that would solve my problem also. But I have seen no mention of this.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Chahlie
10-18-07, 11:47 AM
Chahlie, the high-pitched noise was very noticeable for the first 20-30 hrs. of the TV. Since then, it comes and goes. And even when it comes, it's a lot quieter and less noticeable than it was the first couple weeks.


Thanks for the feedback :D

I noticed it a bit last night, but completely forgot about it when we watched a movie. It was noticable this morning when we were watching the news...just hope it keeps diminishing as time passes.

Chahlie
10-18-07, 11:58 AM
If you are not afraid to enter the service mode of your set , you can do a MANUAL KEYSTONE GEOMETRY ALIGNMENT. I described how to do it on the XX733 thread. This made a significant difference on my set

PPG (or anyone else that's tried to correct the geometry issue :D ) -

I went into the service menu last night and didn't find an option for manual keystone alignment. The set has an issue with pincussion on 4:3 content and needs to be adjusted.

Has anyone tried this on a 734? I scrolled through the multitude of options in the service menu and didn't find anything close (other than HVPOS, which didn't cut it).

Thanks in advance :D :D

videobruce
10-18-07, 12:39 PM
Though this has to do more with the 732/832 series, most should apply to the 05/06 model year as well as the 07/08 model year.

After receiving a few PMs' from members with these sets, apparently there IS another issue to add to my list from 2005;
http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=593005

This new issue was first brought up last November (post 6635);
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9002653#post9002653
I have not posted here for a while now but I need to know if anyone else is having this same problem. I posted maybe a month ago that I was having an issue with my picture on my WD 65831 flicking darker when switching to a lighter scene and flicking lighter when the picture switches to a darker scene. I cannot remember who replied last time to it but they wrote it off as my DNI being on. I was fairly certain this would not be able to pass as something useable if it did this to all the sets...but I thought, maybe. No, it isn't. I have tried everything and it is the most annoying thing, when scenes switch from a darker to lighter or vise versa it will compensate for it I guess about a second after it switches scenes. My dad got the WD 57831 a few weeks ago and I checked his out to see if his did it too. I set everything to exactly the same settings and played with everything. His for sure does not do it, and it isn't because mine is 8" bigger, that is for sure. It is the most frustrating thing and it keeps me from getting into any show I watch because the brightness change.
If anyone else has had this same problem please tell me. I am going to call Mitsubishi sometime this week, I just want to have as much information as possible, and hearing that someone else is having this same problem would be very helpful!
Thanks!Then in March there was a longer discussion about it with thanks to Kelendral for researching all the members who could see thhis obvious problem;Ok, this has been driving me crazy for a while now. On WD-73831 and I've been getting the Brightness Contrast flicker mentioned several times in this thread (links below).
It's highly annoying as you'll have a close-up dialog scene with a mostly static light or dark background and then one actor will make some quick moves and the whole screen appears to flicker (usually darkens for a split second).
From reading the posted threads Mitsubishi is claiming it's from poor connecting HDMI cables but I have seen thing on the Direct Cable RG6 connected cable in, and over component connections as well.
My current settings have
Deep Field Imager: Off
Video Noise: Off
Sharp Edge: Off
Has anyone seen a solution to this issue?
Has Mitsubishi even acknowledged or repaired it for anyone?
Links:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8525776&&#post8525776
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9002653&&#post9002653
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10322312&&#post10322312
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10334516&&#post10334516
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10338234&&#post10338234
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10368651&&#post10368651
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10369253&&#post10369253
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10371036&&#post10371036
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10373009&&#post10373009
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10380214&&#post10380214
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10380324&&#post10380324
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10380418&&#post10380418
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10384414&&#post10384414
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10384439&&#post10384439
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10384527&&#post10384527
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10385387&&#post10385387 So now I can add to the list from the 2005 model year 'Cropped 4x3 analog' issue (which has not been fixed inspite of at least four members here who said it was (that couldn't follow my instructions on how to check). :mad:

Add these to the 'defective thermister connector' and the 'dust in the optical path' issues that have been brough up this year. We now have a list of 'deal breakers'.

tlbowerts
10-18-07, 12:56 PM
Not a deal breaker for me , as i'm fine with my sets.

beowulf7
10-18-07, 02:24 PM
This might be of interest to some people here. I have a power meter (Kill A Watt) that tells you in real time how much power a device is consuming.

My HTS components utilize 29-30 W while in standby mode when my 57734 was configured for power saving. When I changed the setting to fast power-on (I forgot the exact term Mitsubishi uses), my power meter reported 40-41 W while my HTS components were in standby mode. Therefore, there's roughly a 10-12 W difference between the 2 modes.

Some quick arithmetic says if one pays 15 cents/kw-hr., assuming a 12 W premium for fast power-on, the fast power-on mode will cost you an extra $1.34/mo. Over a year, that's about $16. So the price to pay for the TV turning on 30 sec. sooner is an extra $16/yr.

videobruce
10-18-07, 02:41 PM
and the enviromental impact saving is.................?

barth2k
10-18-07, 02:52 PM
beowulf7: how much does it consume while ON?

Vader
10-18-07, 06:30 PM
I went into the service menu last night and didn't find an option for manual keystone alignment. Has anyone tried this on a 734?

Yeah, I've done the manual keystone alignment on my 65734. You *might* have to have the color temp set to low to access this. I thought I read that somewhere, but not sure. Also, once you hit the 4 digit code to enter the service menu, pause a second and then hit '0' to bring up the manual keystone option.

I read that the "All DLP lampstore"(e-bay) has the Bulb without Housing for $129.00, if order from Mit, $249.00 with Housing

What's the Mits web address for ordering bulbs? I can't find it.

tlbowerts
10-18-07, 08:41 PM
Vader,
Web address for ordering bulbs from Mit, mitsuparts.com, or call 800-553-7278

Vader
10-18-07, 10:28 PM
Thanks.

Chahlie
10-19-07, 01:18 PM
Yeah, I've done the manual keystone alignment on my 65734. You *might* have to have the color temp set to low to access this. I thought I read that somewhere, but not sure. Also, once you hit the 4 digit code to enter the service menu, pause a second and then hit '0' to bring up the manual keystone option.

Thanks for the help, Vader :D :D

I went in and messed with the settings for a while last night and have corrected the majority of geometry issues. The pincushion issue is almost gone. Is it possible to completely eliminate it? There's still a slight bow at the top and bottom. I can probably continue to tweak the set points, but since I don't really know what I'm doing, I don't want to waste the time if it's just a DLP thing.


On another note, the high-pitched buzz/whine sound is getting less and less noticable. I could hear it every once in a while last night, but didn't hear it at all in the quiet house this morning. Glad I waited a couple days :) :)

I also went in and used the cnet.com settings as a base line - they were great. I changed the contrast (a bit more) and the yellow (a bit less) and it looks phenomenal (can't remember all my settings).

This is really a great TV; now I just wish everything was broadcast in HD LOL.

kmtoner
10-19-07, 07:32 PM
I'm not crazy about the Mitsubishi remote control.... Sadly, I can't find any discrete codes for the various INPUTS on this set. It requires toggling up the INPUT selector and moving from DVD to Satellite using cursor keys. If anyone has found a Harmony or similar device that has programming for these discrete codes, please let me know.

Problem solved. Last weekend I bought the Logitech Harmony 720 universal remote at Costco. It had every conceivable discrete code for the 65734. Everything is now working wonderfully. The remote was a dream to set up and it even operates my obscure fancy Classe AV pre-amp. Couldn't be happier, which is saying something given the number of much fancier remotes I've gone through over the years.

In other news, the recent addition of so many new DirecTV HD channels makes me so happy I bought this new TV. It's really performing like a champ and so far I don't regret not spending extra for the Diamond model.

barth2k
10-21-07, 12:27 AM
I currently have a 5yo Mits CRT RPTV (65411 to be exact). does anyone here previously own a similar set? how do you think the PQ of the 734 compares?

JetSnake
10-21-07, 01:11 AM
I currently have a 5yo Mits CRT RPTV (65411 to be exact). does anyone here previously own a similar set? how do you think the PQ of the 734 compares?

I would like to know this as well, as I have a 55511 1080i and I'm looking at going with a 65734.

I just bought an HD-DVD player, I'm wondering how much of a difference there is watching HD-DVD's at 1080i vs. 1080p?

tlbowerts
10-21-07, 07:26 PM
I currently have a 5yo Mits CRT RPTV (65411 to be exact). does anyone here previously own a similar set? how do you think the PQ of the 734 compares?

Had the 65511, now have 734 and 833 and i think both have better PQ that the 65511 that we had, both are better over all sets, not that it's anything wrong with the 65411/65511 sets.

Phireman19
10-21-07, 11:31 PM
I talked to HHGregg today, they said they will contact the service company that came out and they will see what they have to say and then they will figure out someting to do for me, and will contact me this week.

We'll see ?!?!

Update, spoke to HHGregg again on Friday, after I called them, of course they didn't call me back like they said they would.
HHGregg said they put a call into Mitsubishi and they will contact me no later than Monday, and if not, then call them back.

I think I am going to demand an exchange for something else. I saw tonight that HHGregg has the Sony 60A3000 for $1999. I think I may try that one next and see if I have better luck with it. I am tired of the bowed pictures and stuff.

beowulf7
10-22-07, 01:16 AM
and the enviromental impact saving is.................?
I just presented a fact. What you, the reader, decide to do with it is entirely up to you. ;)

beowulf7: how much does it consume while ON?
I measured an aggregate ~340-350 W consumed by all the components plugged into the UPS, which include a Dish sat/ receiver, an Onkyo A/V receiver, an OPPO DVD player, and the '57734 TV.

beowulf7
10-22-07, 01:19 AM
I went into the service menu (Menu + 2470) to check out the TV's odometer (now in the 80s). While there, I pressed QV on the remote control to jump to the previous channel. However, that messed up my TV's settings. I later realized that put the TV into production mode. My antenna input didn't work. I had to reinitialize the TV and go through the entire setup process again (including all the Perfect Color and Tint settings from that CNET link).

It was a lesson I learned that cost me about 15 min. of fooling around w/ the RC trying to figure out what I did. Everything seems to be restored as normal now. I just wanted to warn people that when they're in the Service Menu, don't just start pressing buttons on the RC unless you know what you're doing! :eek:

InfiniteThought
10-22-07, 10:47 AM
I bought a 73734 yesterday for a great price. Drove it home and fired it up and was smacked in the face with the dreaded squeal!

To be honest I though all the complaints of the squealing noise on this unit to probably be blown out of proportion. However, the noise was far worse then I had imagined. This squeal is extremely irritating, like nails on a chalkboard, and find it to be totally unacceptable. It was so obnoxious, I could hear it down the hall in the master bedroom while the Porcupine Tree Arriving Somewhere DVD blasting. It's so high pitched it just cuts through everything.

I believe it must be the color wheel that is producing the noise.

My question: Does this noise go away eventually? If not is there a fix?

If not, unfortunately I'm going to have to return this TV. I have a Toshiba HD-A2 with Planet Earth in the mail, can't wait for that.

Last night I only had a 480i DVD player in 4:3 mode to watch. :( HD-DVD must be stunning on this TV.

tlbowerts
10-22-07, 11:34 AM
I bought a 73734 yesterday for a great price. Drove it home and fired it up and was smacked in the face with the dreaded squeal!

To be honest I though all the complaints of the squealing noise on this unit to probably be blown out of proportion. However, the noise was far worse then I had imagined. This squeal is extremely irritating, like nails on a chalkboard, and find it to be totally unacceptable. It was so obnoxious, I could hear it down the hall in the master bedroom while the Porcupine Tree Arriving Somewhere DVD blasting. It's so high pitched it just cuts through everything.

I believe it must be the color wheel that is producing the noise.

My question: Does this noise go away eventually? If not is there a fix?

If not, unfortunately I'm going to have to return this TV. I have a Toshiba HD-A2 with Planet Earth in the mail, can't wait for that.

Last night I only had a 480i DVD player in 4:3 mode to watch. :( HD-DVD must be stunning on this TV.

From what I've read, it's now a easy fix (1st posted by terpsfan 59, so look for his posts) the noise is from the Ballast, and to fix it , they wrapped the twin leads going to ballast with standard electrical tape,and noise to gone, guess this is what Mit's support is telling Tv tech's to do for this issue now.

beowulf7
10-22-07, 02:46 PM
I bought a 73734 yesterday for a great price. Drove it home and fired it up and was smacked in the face with the dreaded squeal!

To be honest I though all the complaints of the squealing noise on this unit to probably be blown out of proportion. However, the noise was far worse then I had imagined. This squeal is extremely irritating, like nails on a chalkboard, and find it to be totally unacceptable. It was so obnoxious, I could hear it down the hall in the master bedroom while the Porcupine Tree Arriving Somewhere DVD blasting. It's so high pitched it just cuts through everything.

I believe it must be the color wheel that is producing the noise.

My question: Does this noise go away eventually? If not is there a fix?

If not, unfortunately I'm going to have to return this TV. I have a Toshiba HD-A2 with Planet Earth in the mail, can't wait for that.

Last night I only had a 480i DVD player in 4:3 mode to watch. :( HD-DVD must be stunning on this TV.

While there apparently is a fix as tlbowerts mentioned, when I called Mitsubishi, who then put me in contact w/ a local repair shop, they didn't know of such a problem. The repair guy came out once and then was supposed to come back again to replace a part which he thought might be causing it. (On that day, the squeal mysteriously disappeared, then came back on after the tech left.)

However, since then, the squeal has gotten less loud and doesn't come on as much anymore. My TV is now 86 hrs. old and I can't recall hearing the high-pitched whine over the past week or 2. So it looks like it does eventually go away.

InfiniteThought
10-22-07, 03:13 PM
I think I'll try to wait it out, at least until I'm satisfied with the PQ. I need my HD-A2 to confirm this... :)

Also, I don't think we should call this a "hum". A hum is noise a 60 hz ground-loop makes. This is a very high-pitched noise. I imagine it's coming from the color-wheel motor, a bearing or the servo itself. It's OBNOXIOUS!!!

Also, what sort of calibration does the xx833 have that the xx734 doesn't in service-man mode?

BillyBeatnik
10-22-07, 03:15 PM
Had the 65511, now have 734 and 833 and i think both have better PQ that the 65511 that we had, both are better over all sets, not that it's anything wrong with the 65411/65511 sets.

How does SD programming look on the 734 and 833 compared to the 511?

Thugzie
10-23-07, 09:25 AM
How does SD programming look on the 734 and 833 compared to the 511?

I'm using a SD signal (480i) from direcTV still on th 73734. The PQ is enjoyable for pretty much everything but sports. It's not that sports is unbearable but the picture definitely gets fuzzy at times.

My DVD player that's 480i, the PQ is amazing.

I'm working on getting HD signal this week from DirecTV. I had some billing issues I had to work through first.

Regarding the noise. I've had my set on 80+ hours now and I've not experienced any noise (knock on wood). I mean there's a light hum that can be heard when standing right next to the tv. I can't hear it when the volume is on the lowest setting.