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bigjazzfan1
06-27-07, 05:58 AM
Didn't see this posted.

The July 7th Live Earth Concert will be shown for 22 hours in HD on
Universal HD channel.

As well as SD on the various NBC owned cable channels.

bjf

SHergenrader
06-27-07, 02:29 PM
Excellent. That's good to hear. I was wondering if this would be in HD on any channel. Thanks for the heads up.

jwebb1970
06-27-07, 03:02 PM
Let's hope their coverage isn't the crapfest that VH1 dumped on us with the Live8 shows. Cutting away to talking heads (not the band) yapping during performances.

Good thing that went to DVD. Didn't get to see the online coverage and VH1 destroyed the Pink Floyd set.

SHergenrader
06-27-07, 04:40 PM
Let's hope their coverage isn't the crapfest that VH1 dumped on us with the Live8 shows. Cutting away to talking heads (not the band) yapping during performances.

Good thing that went to DVD. Didn't get to see the online coverage and VH1 destroyed the Pink Floyd set.

I couldn't agree more. That was so annoying watching Live8 on MTV and VH1. According to titantv.com, UHD will start showing coverage at 4:00 a.m. EST Saturday morning and will play all day until 11:00 p.m. that night I believe. NBC will show coverage Saturday night from 8:00 p.m. until 11:00 p.m.

Marcus Carr
06-28-07, 07:12 PM
NBC U, Intelsat Gear Up for Live Earth

Live Earth: The Concerts for a Climate in Crisis Touted as Biggest HDTV Event in History

By Linda Moss -- Multichannel News, 6/28/2007 11:48:00 AM

Intelsat next week will globally distribute Live Earth: The Concerts for a Climate in Crisis, which is being touted as the biggest HDTV event in history.

The worldwide event, which takes place July 7, will air in the United States on a variety of NBC Universal TV networks -- namely NBC, Bravo, Universal HD, Sundance Channel, CNBC, MSNBC, Telemundo and mun2. Those services will air nine concerts from seven continents as part of the concerts’ effort to raise awareness of the solutions to the global climate crisis.

Live Earth will use Intelsat -- the largest provider of commercial satellite services -- to beam headliners such as Madonna and The Police to an expected 2 billion viewers around the globe. Intelsat will use a network of satellite and terrestrial facilities to collect and distribute program feeds from the Live Earth concerts in standard-definition and HDTV.

Live Earth will feature 24 hours of music with performances by more than 150 artists.

“Live Earth has the potential to be the world’s largest high-definition event, so our production-standard requirements are obviously going to be complex and widespread,” Live Earth founder and producer Kevin Wall said in a prepared statement. “Intelsat’s turnkey transmission services provide us the capacity we need to successfully broadcast this event around the world.”

NBC U is the exclusive U.S. broadcaster of Live Earth. NBC will broadcast a three-hour primetime special featuring highlights of performances from around the world, including live moments from the U.S. concert at Giants Stadium in New Jersey. Hosted by Ann Curry of Today with Carson Daly of Last Call with Carson Daly, the special will also feature the biggest and brightest stars of today with information on what viewers at home can do to help with environmental and conservation issues.

Bravo will present a live 18-hour broadcast and best-of moments from the concerts from 8 a.m. July 7-2 a.m. July 8. For online users, Bravo’s Web site will feature live blogging about the show, tips and features on how to live a greener life and a complete schedule of Bravo's on-air concert moments. And for conservationists on-the-go, Bravo offers green tips and 30-minute alerts for upcoming performances via text message.

Sundance and Universal HD will air 22-hour live broadcasts and best-of moments from the concerts from 4 a.m. July 7-2 a.m. July 8. Universal HD is the only channel where the entire day's concerts will be broadcast in HDTV.

Telemundo will broadcast a one-hour special at 7 p.m., and mun2 will air a two-hour special from 5 p.m.-7 p.m. Both specials will feature the hottest Latin acts performing at the concerts including Shakira, Enrique Iglesias and Mana.

CNBC will feature a seven-hour primetime broadcast from 7 p.m. July 7-2 a.m. July 8.

MSNBC will broadcast special coverage of this global concert event throughout the day with live reports from the concerts in New York and London.

http://multichannel.com/article/CA6456310.html

JCL
06-29-07, 07:55 AM
HD on CTV in Canada. http://www.ctv.ca/mini/liveearth2007/

Live Earth: The Concerts for a Climate in Crisis will be CTV's most ambitious television project ever.

In an effort to galvanize people from across Canada to "answer the call" about the global climate crisis, the broadcast will be a marathon, 28-hour broadcast on CTV. In what will be the world's largest High Definition concert broadcast of all time, CTV's coverage will be the longest, single program ever broadcast by the network. Live coverage begins at 10 pm ET/7 pm PT on Friday, July 6, when the first artist takes to the stage in Sydney, Australia, and continues until 11 pm ET/8 pm PT on Saturday, July 7, when the historic event concludes at Giants Stadium in New Jersey.

Watch all 8 of the Live Earth events beginning on CTV Television and right here on the CTV broadband network.

gruven42
06-29-07, 10:17 AM
Universal HD is the only channel where the entire day's concerts will be broadcast in HDTV.
Sweet!

Don S
06-29-07, 11:31 AM
This is awesome. Does anyone have a link to a list of all the bands? I couldn't find one.

JasonBrown
06-29-07, 11:36 AM
This is awesome. Does anyone have a link to a list of all the bands? I couldn't find one.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_Earth#Confirmed_performers_for_Live_Earth

Nachosgrande
06-29-07, 11:38 AM
Will there be simulcast on the networks, or will different channels show different events?

clash1
06-29-07, 01:06 PM
Can't wait to see Spinal Tap in HD!!

House
06-29-07, 01:14 PM
BBC HD here in the UK will also be showing this, here's the listing

Time: 16:00 to 04:00 (12 hours long).
When: Saturday 7th July on BBC HD

Live from Wembley Stadium, Jonathan Ross, Graham Norton and Edith Bowman present coverage of Live Earth, a series of music concerts being staged across the world to raise global awareness of climate change. The line-up for the London concert includes Genesis, Razorlight, Black Eyed Peas, Keane, Snow Patrol, Red Hot Chili Peppers, James Blunt, Kasabian, Beastie Boys, Duran Duran and Madonna. Also featuring interviews with the stars and highlights from the other concerts around the world.

"Only" 12 hours though.

JCL
06-29-07, 04:43 PM
I would bet they don't have HD from all the 9 sites.

bobby94928
06-29-07, 06:55 PM
Somehow I just don't see HD cameras in Antarctica.... :)

bigjazzfan1
06-29-07, 08:04 PM
There was a news bit on their official site.
There were young guys working there for the summer doing
science work. And they just happen to have their own rock band. lol

So this will be there first global gig.
They are all excited about it.

As for HD cameras that HD format from Panasonic that uses flash memory only could be used. It's very hardly in bitter cold environments.

There was a picture of them outside with the band setup rehearsing.

Should be fun to watch.

bjf

sneals2000
06-30-07, 05:15 AM
The "interesting" issue with Antarctica is not just the cameras - as you can get pretty hardy HD cameras (though operating them for music production through thick gloves might be fun...) - the issue is more the backhaul link.

It is pretty difficult to get full bandwith live broadcasts from the polar regions, as it is difficult to see the equatorial geostationary broadcast satellites used for live TV links as they are close to the horizon from polar regions. Low orbiting satellites that come and go are an option - but they have a much lower data rate - probably not enough for live HD - though store and forward non-live is possible. On the other hand there may be fibre circuits now - though AFAIK there aren't.

Previously BBC News have had to use video phone / IP phone techniques to do live news hits from the polar regions (mainly on climate change, but there was one for the 2000 Today Millennium programme as well) - but have sent full 16:9 SD reports at high quality using store and forward.

jefbal99
06-30-07, 10:53 AM
Crap, i need to get the stuff off my DVR and then check with my local comcast office to see if they have any 6416s. I'll need the extra space to record all 22 hrs of this.

taz291819
06-30-07, 11:52 AM
I hope they release a list of times when certain artists are going to perform. Going through 22-hours of footage would suck.

JCL
07-01-07, 03:47 PM
http://www.nbc.com/Schedule/

NBC's website now lists next Sunday's 3-hour best-of-day highlights as HD.

JCL
07-01-07, 03:52 PM
Crap, i need to get the stuff off my DVR and then check with my local comcast office to see if they have any 6416s. I'll need the extra space to record all 22 hrs of this.

What you need is a SATA drive. In lieu of such, you can try DVR'ing it in chunks of 6 hours. After hour-six, offload hours 1-6 to somewhere else. After hour-twelve, off load 7-12, and erase the first six hours. After hour-eighteen, offload 13-18, erase hours 7-12. Sounds like a plan?

JCL
07-05-07, 08:56 PM
http://www.intelsat.com/press/news-releases/2007/20070628.asp

Intelsat Rocks Live Earth with Global HD Distribution
Pembroke, Bermuda, 28 June 2007

Intelsat, Ltd., the world's leading provider of commercial satellite services, and Live Earth today announced a relationship that will enable Intelsat to join Live Earth as the official satellite capacity sponsor. When the largest high definition music event in history takes place 7 July 2007, Live Earth will use Intelsat to beam global entertainment headliners such as ...... to an estimated two billion viewers worldwide in an effort to raise awareness about the climate crisis.

....... Furthermore, viewers in Europe and North America will enjoy 24 hours of live high definition programming of unprecedented scope and scale.

Mr Saint Laurent
07-06-07, 02:02 AM
Is the Universal HD broadcast simply an HD simulcast of the Sundance Channel's programming? The reason I ask is because I don't subscribe to the Sundance Channel and want to see everything this Saturday. I don't want to subscribe and then find out they are only showing an SD version of what I'm already getting on Universal HD.

JCL
07-06-07, 06:55 AM
Just so people don't go into the weekend with high expectations, thinking this is an "all-you-can-eat" music fest -- for a good cause, think of the logistical nightmare if you're a broadcaster.

These 7 or 8 concerts take place with an overlapping schedule (see below)

http://shows.ctv.ca/liveearth/schedule.html

At certain times during the day, directors of the TV network you're watching will be making choices of what you'll see. There will be things you wish you can see, things you wish you can see in entirety, things you wish they would switch away, not to mention talking heads. There may be graphics telling you where you'll send donations. It's the MTV/Live8 scenario all over again. It can happen. But.....

If you're fortunate to have a multi-platformed network in your home country, like Universal in the U.S., or CTV in Canada, then you may have better access to complete concerts in each of the cities. e.g. for Canada:

"Whole Earth Coverage" Fri 9:00pm-Sat 11:00pmET CTV (OTA, HD)

Sydney Friday 9pm-Sat 7:50am MuchMoreMusic
Tokyo Friday 11pm-Sat 8:00am MuchMusic
Shanghai Sat 7:00am-10:00am Star!
Hamburg Sat 8:00am-5:00pm Bravo!
London Sat 8:30am-5:30pm MuchMoreMusic
Jo-Burg Sat Noon-5:30 pm MuchVibe
New York Sat 2:30pm-Sat 11:00pm MuchMusic
Rio Sat 3:00 pm-10:00 pm MuchMoreMusic

CTV has just purchased MuchMusic, so this was a great opportunity for them to put the new assets to good use, IMO. Small nitpick: only CTV is HD, the other specialty channels are SD, but you get a better chance of catching what you want to see.

IAM4UK
07-06-07, 09:43 AM
There may be graphics telling you where you'll send donations.
Donations for what? What kind of a scam are they running?

The UHD coverage could be worthwhile if this were going to be just music; however, I fear audiences will be treated to pontificating speeches by the various artists. That would definitely destroy whatever entertainment value this event will have.

bobby94928
07-06-07, 10:08 AM
Yeah, who cares about the Live Earth or Climate in Crisis, just give me the music. That's all that matters. :o

JCL
07-06-07, 10:15 AM
Yeah, who cares about the Live Earth or Climate in Crisis, just give me the music. That's all that matters. :o

I think this thread is getting a bit political now. I'll just complete my thought here and I'll shut up, and hopefully back to the technological aspects of the broadcast. And it goes like this...

It's not that simple. Why do the artists agree to participate? They usually do this for a fee, huge fee. They may get a bit this time, but probably not the amounts they're used to getting. They are giving you some music, but they want you to think about why they're doing it. Sorry for that donation comment. Perhaps not this time. But on the www.liveearth.org website, there's this:

http://liveearthpledge.org/answer_the_call.php

They may ask you to check it out during the broadcast.

bobby94928
07-06-07, 10:20 AM
I think this thread is getting a bit political now.

I was only commenting on IAM4UK's tirade about pontificating artists etc....

I have no problem whatsoever with plugs for what the show is really about. I'll shut up now. :)

gruven42
07-06-07, 10:32 AM
OMGZZZZ!!!1111

I have to sit through a bunch of important educational information about the planet I live on and all I get in return is 22 hours of high definition live music for free?! What's this world coming too?!

JCL
07-06-07, 10:39 AM
OMGZZZZ!!!1111

I have to sit through a bunch of important educational information about the planet I live on and all I get in return is 22 hours of high definition live music for free?! What's this world coming to?!

That's the deal. You got it.

"What's this world coming to?" That's why there's Live Earth.

IAM4UK
07-06-07, 10:57 AM
Okay, if any of you actually believe the climate is "in crisis," suit yourself. Given that is the theme of tomorrow's concerts, I suppose some bloviating from the musical artists will be the price one must pay if he wants to hear some of their music. Fair enough. But if they do ask for donations, as was suggested here, I'd consider that a scam. No amount of money would fix a climate in crisis.

IAM4UK
07-06-07, 11:03 AM
I was only commenting on IAM4UK's tirade about pontificating artists etc....
TIRADE: a prolonged outburst of bitter, outspoken denunciation
I don't think my brief (one clause of a sentence) lament about speeches overshadowing the music qualifies as a "tirade," but am curious how it had such impact on you.

gruven42
07-06-07, 11:05 AM
No amount of money would fix a climate in crisis.
And if you actually believe that, well...

IAM4UK
07-06-07, 11:06 AM
I think this thread is getting a bit political now.
That's an interesting observation. I've not found political statements in this thread, but the inherently ludicrous idea that meteorology could be overtly politicized unfortunately seems to have merit these days. How did that happen?

mwahlert
07-06-07, 12:21 PM
does any one have a schedule for what bands will be playing and when on universal HD?

JCL
07-06-07, 12:31 PM
does any one have a schedule for what bands will be playing and when on universal HD?

I don't think it's on the Universal HD website. What you need is something similar to this. http://shows.ctv.ca/liveearth/schedule.html At least it gives you a general idea.

SAFOOL
07-06-07, 12:33 PM
If you don't believe in the concerts cause, feel free to donate money to my PS3 & HDTV for the bedroom fund. :p

IAM4UK
07-06-07, 01:11 PM
If you don't believe in the concerts cause, feel free to donate money to my PS3 & HDTV for the bedroom fund. :p
If you want a PS3 for your bedroom, maybe I should contribute to the "help SAFOOL get a date" fund... ;) :D :p

Marcus Carr
07-06-07, 01:15 PM
NBC:

Saturday, July 7th, 8/7c

LIVE EARTH: THE CONCERTS FOR A CLIMATE IN CRISIS

Part of the NBC family's unprecedented coverage of the Live Earth event, this three-hour primetime special will feature highlights of performances from around the world, including live moments from the U.S. Live Earth concert at Giants Stadium. Hosted by Ann Curry ("Today") with Carson Daly ("Last Call with Carson Daly"), the special will also feature the biggest and brightest stars of today, including Madonna, Bon Jovi, The Police, Sheryl Crow, Kelly Clarkson, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Kanye West, Melissa Etheridge, John Mayer, Faith Hill, Shakira, Mana, Black Eyed Peas, Fall Out Boy, Enrique Iglesias, Duran Duran and many more.

http://www.nbc.com/Movies_Specials_More/

Marcus Carr
07-06-07, 01:16 PM
Universal HD:

Rising temperatures, greenhouse gasses, melting glaciers—hey, it sounds like Mother Earth could use some help! So 150 of the world’s best recording artists have come together to make some noise and a whole lot of music in hopes of inspiring all of us to take action. Haven’t got a ticket? No sweat! We’re bringing you the best seat in the house. While you can catch select live coverage on some of the other NBC networks, this is the only place you’ll see every band in HD. That’s right, all 22 hours of music from seven continents, all in high definition, only on Universal HD. You’ll see and hear The Beastie Boys, Ludacris, Kanye West, Kelly Clarkson, Bon Jovi, Madonna, The Police, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Melissa Etheridge, Dave Matthews Band, The Smashing Pumpkins, Foo Fighters, Duran Duran, Akon, AFI, Paolo Nutini, KT Tunstall, Genesis and many, many more! For more information about Live Earth and global warming, go to www.liveearth.org.

http://www.universalhd.com/

jefbal99
07-06-07, 01:51 PM
If you don't believe in the concerts cause, feel free to donate money to my PS3 & HDTV for the bedroom fund. :p

My wife told me to buy a HDTV for the bedroom so i owuld come to bed. So i did...a 42" LCD, bit of overkill, but ya know i got a great deal and she put no constraints on my purchase. Just had to stay around a grand.

IAM4UK
07-06-07, 02:34 PM
My wife ... put no constraints on my purchase. Just had to stay around a grand.
That's the beauty of marriage...she put a very definite restraint on your purchase, according to your last statement; however, it was so much less than the typical "constraints" you've come to expect, you declared this effectively meant "no constraints on my purchase." Love is a wondrous thing!

leftjab
07-06-07, 04:12 PM
Is the Universal HD broadcast simply an HD simulcast of the Sundance Channel's programming? The reason I ask is because I don't subscribe to the Sundance Channel and want to see everything this Saturday. I don't want to subscribe and then find out they are only showing an SD version of what I'm already getting on Universal HD.

my guess is yes -- it's the same 22 hour time slot, and on the UHD site they mention they are broadcasting Sundance Channel's "Small Ideas for a Big Planet" this week as a prelude.

Nachosgrande
07-06-07, 04:21 PM
No amount of money would fix a climate in crisis.

Big Oil begs to differ!

I would love to have some sort of schedule - looks like there will be various cities covered on different networks, but I'll be recording Universal HD and sort thru the wheat and chaff afterwards.

HiDef Bob
07-06-07, 05:38 PM
Here is a link to the complete scheldule of times and performances from CTV ...

http://shows.ctv.ca/liveearth/schedule.html

If you live in Canada or have access to Bell ExpressVu or Star Choice just put it on CTV HD and leave there for 29 hours ...

http://www.ctv.ca/generic/generated/tvlist/CIVTtvlist.html

JCL
07-06-07, 05:45 PM
Big Oil begs to differ!

I would love to have some sort of schedule - looks like there will be various cities covered on different networks, but I'll be recording Universal HD and sort thru the wheat and chaff afterwards.

I just hope the main networks (UHD in the U.S. and CTV in Canada) do reasonable jobs in presenting what's best of the day without a lot of bungling, cutting and chattering. It isn't going to be easy, and I am quite sure you can't please everyone all the time. So four advices....

1. If you want to record absolutely everything (i.e. complete concerts from New York, London, Rio, or whatever else), you're better off sticking with the channels which carry each of the concerts (if you have access to them).
2. If you want HD, you're better off with UHD and CTV.
3. If you want somebody else to select the best 130 minutes of the day for you (and those may not be your favorites), you can try your luck with NBC Saturday evening. NBC is said to be doing this in HD, but we don't know until we see it. And frankly I don't know if they'll be including "non-music material" (snippets of people talking about saving the earth etc).
4. Wait for the DVD boxed set just in time for Christmas.

HiDef Bob
07-06-07, 05:54 PM
Since this is a concert about Climate Change I would expect several pre-recorded interludes on the subject between performances.

Ironically the concert itself will have a footprint on the environment ... jeting artists to the venues, television lighting at the venues, people around the world tuned in on the televisions, etc.

archiguy
07-06-07, 06:58 PM
That's an interesting observation. I've not found political statements in this thread, but the inherently ludicrous idea that meteorology could be overtly politicized unfortunately seems to have merit these days. How did that happen?

Actually, the Industrial Age happened, beginning about a hundred years ago, and man-made carbon output has been accelerating exponentially since then. Coincidentally, we see a correspondingly extraordinary increase in global temperature, meaning it's never happened this fast in the history of the planet except in extraordinary circumstances, like asteroid impact or eruption of a supervolcano, that sort of thing. I heard Carl Sagan give a presentation on what he saw as an alarming trend at a local college 20 years ago. It's not that nobody's been talking about it; just that nobody's been paying attention. That's why this event is happening, to raise awareness in a populace that's been lulled to sleep on this issue. Nice we can see these bands in HD, right? I'll be watching on an energy-guzzling CRT (but what a great picture!). ;)

But you may be right in that there's nothing we can really do about it at this point. Slow it down a little, maybe, if we start making the right choices. But everybody kind of has to sign on, including the Chinese, if it would have any chance of success.

paule123
07-06-07, 07:02 PM
Ironically the concert itself will have a footprint on the environment ... jeting artists to the venues, television lighting at the venues, people around the world tuned in on the televisions, etc.

I'm sure all the artists purchased "carbon offset credits" to compensate for that. :D

eric.exe
07-06-07, 08:15 PM
I can't wait to watch this... wait... Comcast STILL hasn't given me Universal-HD! Sweet!

IAM4UK
07-06-07, 08:32 PM
I'm sure all the artists purchased "carbon offset credits" to compensate for that. :D
I joked months ago that I was going to start selling carbon offsets. It's the most outrageous scam ever conceived, and I was obviously kidding. But now it's actually happening, and people are being congratulated for buying "credits." It's akin to the heinous practice of "selling" forgiveness of sins many years ago. Shouldn't we do our part to be good stewards of the environment, rather than buy some "credits" to assuage our guilt after we are wasteful? Especially if we believe that our activity is destroying the planet???

JCL
07-06-07, 09:18 PM
So okay, heeeeeeere we go!

After 16 minutes of intros, the concert in Sydney started. HD picture live on CTVHD right now. First band took the stage at 9:30 pm ET.

HiDef Bob
07-06-07, 10:27 PM
HD PQ from Australia looks very good. Unfortunately no DD5.1.

(no performances until 6:30pm was good as I was watching the Blue Jays)

JCL
07-06-07, 10:47 PM
For what we were able to see from Aussie Stadium was very good PQ, but CTV cut away every 20 minute or so for it's own dose of celebrity interviews and global warming lessons. If you need to see the full concert, just as I predicted earlier, you've got to switch to MuchMoreMusic. MMM is SD with a letterboxed picture. CTV SD, when it's showing the concert, is full screen with the middle 4:3 portion of the feed.

I'm not too pleased with the show's mix of live music and interviews, about 70/30 by my estimation. Ideally it should be closer to 90/10. After CTV doing such a dood job last week with the Concert of Diana, I thought they're very capable. This week however, was a bit disconcerting. Essentially it's a MuchMusic production with borrowed CTV hosts. These MM guys are very well connected with music personallities, but unfortunately not as good as CTV in producing a continuous live concert show.

HiDef Bob
07-06-07, 11:22 PM
Just remember the purpose of these concerts ... to save this planet!!! Not just to have a good time!

It is bad enough that it is not DD5.1 ... I am certainly not going to watch the bloody SD crap!!! I will take whatever CTV HD gives.

JCL
07-06-07, 11:34 PM
I sense there's a balancing act here. On one hand, music fans want to hear music. The environmentalists, on the other hand, wants their message to be more prominently displayed. If you're a producer of the telecast, you probably need to strike a balance. So in that respect, CTV/MuchMusic is doing alright so far.

HiDef Bob
07-06-07, 11:42 PM
I bet NBC bleeps some of the language! CTV only gives a warning that this is live and some of the language may not be appropriate for all members of the family! You will hear the F word on CTV coverage ...

JCL
07-06-07, 11:51 PM
I bet NBC bleeps some of the language! CTV only gives a warning that this is live and some of the language may not be appropriate for all members of the family! You will hear the F word on CTV coverage ...

That Aussie was swearing his butt off. I thought that was inappropriate. He didn't need to. I'll bet none of this Australian stuff gets on NBC. NBC's will be 60% New Jersey, may be 30% London, and 10% all the rest. That holographic Al Gore in Tokyo was neat, NBC should put that on.

hphase
07-07-07, 12:08 AM
Those who remember Live Aid have been through this before. And we enjoyed the show, even with all the alleged "politics." It's an HD forum. Enjoy the show.

Maybe Mick Jagger will rip off Tina Turner's skirt again. That aired live on ABC, because there was no way to stop it. We survived. Nobody got fined.

DaveFi
07-07-07, 12:11 AM
Somebody wake me when Spinal Tap is on (and remind me to crank it up to 11).;)

eweiss
07-07-07, 12:35 AM
Just remember the purpose of these concerts ... to save this planet!!! Not just to have a good time!

Really? I thought the purpose was to bolster Al Gore's not-yet-announced run for the Presidency! Of course, the Presidential campaigning is full of so much hot air even at this early stage that it is perhaps the largest single present cause of global warming. :)

And on a related note, for those of you/us who lived through the '60s, the current 40th Anniversary special issue of Rolling Stone Magazine is quite interesting, but copies are getting scarce: 1967 the Summer of Love issue.

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 03:28 AM
Just as in the USA when it comes to the Climate Crisis we here in Canada have a bunch of moron politicians who just refuse to wake up and get serious about this critical problem that threatens not only mankinds very existence but the existence of hundreds of other species that share this planet with us! Hopefully this concert will help people get active and force those politians to wake up or suffer the consequences! It doesn't matter if your politics are left or right or center ... everyone has to get on board to save our planet.

Marcus Carr
07-07-07, 04:12 AM
On UHD now. Starting off in Tokyo. Sound appears to be 2.0. Too dark to judge picture quality.

Marcus Carr
07-07-07, 04:15 AM
Al gore in Hologram form, then a "short film", then a commercial break.

Faceless Rebel
07-07-07, 04:26 AM
Sigh. UHD is showing it with commercials. On the up side this really hot Australian chick was just on. Then another short film, then commercials.

WHY ARE THERE COMMERCIALS?!?!?!

PQ is pretty good from Sydney. Hah, just as I'm typing this, the HD feed died and an SD feed was put up in its place. Oh look, that hot Australian chick is back, but now she's in SD.

Edit: and now the HD feed is back but it's breaking up pretty badly. I really get the feeling that it's going to be like this all day. It can't be easy to successfully broadcast an event like this in HD from 8 cities around the world over satellite uplink.

Anyways, now it's some Australian actress.

Marcus Carr
07-07-07, 04:31 AM
Toni Collette from The Sixth Sense. I didn't know she was in a band.

Faceless Rebel
07-07-07, 04:43 AM
I don't know anything about Australian pop and rock music, but from what I've seen, they sure are wacky. And it looks like they know how to have a good time.

Mr Saint Laurent
07-07-07, 04:53 AM
I don't think Universal HD should have advertised that they were going to have 22 hours of LIVE coverage as clearly that isn't the case. Everything so far has been taped. Linkin Park is about to take the stage in Japan and I guess I will have to watch it on a low quality online stream instead of on Universal HD like I thought I was going to be able to.

bigjazzfan1
07-07-07, 05:14 AM
You can hear the Live Earth concert on the XM channels of Directv.

Unedited and live.

The XM channels are split up in various packages on Directv.

Channels are below.

bjf

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Deep Tracks*40 --- DIRECTV 840 THE LIVE EARTH ALL ACCESS CHANNEL

XM Cafe 45 ---- DIRECTV 832 GERMANY

Top Tracks*46 ---- DIRECTV 833 LONDON, UK

Boneyard*41 ---- DIRECTV 830 AUSTRALIA AND BRAZIL (LATER)

XM Liquid Metal*42--DIRECTV 841 JAPAN AND NYC (LATER)

XMU* 43 --- DIRECTV 831 CHINA

Fred* 44 --- DIRECTV 839 SOUTH AFRICA

bigjazzfan1
07-07-07, 05:16 AM
I see listed that Live Earth is also on a Latin TV channel on Directv.
Channel 410 will have a program at 2PM Pacific and 7PM Pacific today.

and another channel 406 will have a program at 3PM.

No idea of content.

bjf

Mr Saint Laurent
07-07-07, 05:19 AM
UHD has ff'd way ahead in their coverage, now up to xzibit. linkin park played two songs, but then the baricade broke. they've been sitting on stage doing nothing for 10 minutes while the baricade is being fixed.

Faceless Rebel
07-07-07, 05:19 AM
Well, UHD just had good old X-to-the-Z himself performing some rousing versions of his most well-known tracks. I had to admit, I was amused when they showed crowd shots. The Americans in the crowd seemed to be having a great time, but the Japanese in the crowd just looked confused. Xzibit did get some rousing cheers when he yelled "Japan!!!!!!!" though.

Marcus Carr
07-07-07, 05:20 AM
Looks like I'll be skipping a lot of stuff on UHD. I'm going to bed.

Faceless Rebel
07-07-07, 05:24 AM
Yeah, I think I'm going to go to sleep too. I just cleared out the DVR and hit the 'Record' button, I wonder how many hours I'll be able to get before the hard drive fills up.

edit: ahahahaha! not yet! they're doing the broadcast from the South Pole now. i think i'll watch this for a bit. these guys aren't real talented but they are actually researchers at the British Antarctic Survey at Rothera Research Station, Adelaide Island, Antarctica, so I'll give them a pass. they seem awfully enthusiastic if nothing else.

Mr Saint Laurent
07-07-07, 05:36 AM
linkin park is playing once again and based on the UHD coverage, should be showing up on UHD shortly on a delay.

Faceless Rebel
07-07-07, 05:41 AM
Gee, that Japanese guy is wearing a kilt. That's awesomely kooky. These stupid short films are really starting to piss me off as much as the commercials. I want to watch the god-damned concerts!

Mr Saint Laurent
07-07-07, 05:54 AM
universal HD has been "universal SD" for quite a bit of time now. i must say that the first 2 hours of this 22 hour coverage has been a immense disappointment thus far. most of it hasn't even been in HD and NONE OF IT has been live. so much for that live HD coverage i guess . . .

still watching linkin park's set on MSN.com. when they are done i guess i'll go to bed and use the DVR to catch up on whatever universal HD & bravo show while i'm sleeping.

arKas
07-07-07, 06:01 AM
universal HD has been "universal SD" for quite a bit of time now. i must say that the first 2 hours of this 22 hour coverage has been a immense disappointment thus far. most of it hasn't even been in HD and NONE OF IT has been live. so much for that live HD coverage i guess . . .


Yep. Competent, aren't they?

Every time they switch to HD, be it for Australia or Japan, heavy breakups in signal, and they switch back to SD.

I am also getting tired of all this spam. We got what... 7-8 performances in 2 hours?

JCL
07-07-07, 07:00 AM
It appears UHD is not live. What UHD has been airing overnight (in eastern time) was shown in CTV starting at 9:00 pm...... Toni Collette, Hollographic Al Gore..... all of these occurred before midnight in the east.

Well, at least, UHD had a few hours to do some editing.

Live on CTVHD, the concert in Shanghai has just started.

Edit: The sun has just set in Shanghai. In the opening number, the director used a lot of wide shots to show off the interesting skyline of this city. Looking striking in HD! The only weird thing: there's this big beam of spot light which shines on the performer. Looking at the beam, you can actually see how polluted the air is !! (or is that fog, or mist?)

arKas
07-07-07, 07:37 AM
UHD's video bitrate is horrible. Averages less than 12Mbps.

JCL
07-07-07, 08:55 AM
CTVHD live now from new Wembley Stadium in London. Genesis kicks it off. Don't miss this!

icemannyr
07-07-07, 09:45 AM
Is any network doing live coverage?

Sundance is showing short films, and Bravo the same at the moment.

For SD they just said Bravo is the home for the NY Concert.

paule123
07-07-07, 09:54 AM
As it's being delivered on UHD over D* channel 74, the PQ is underwhelmling. Very noticeable compression artifacts from Hamburg even on non-motion shots of the stage. (Shakira)

Shanghai looks soft, but it's very dark and hard to tell. (12 Girls Band)

London (SOS Allstars) looks about same mediocre PQ as Hamburg. The red shirts and seats are all fuzz.

UHD coverage seems to be one song, commercial, environmental lecture, one song, commercial, lecture, rinse, repeat. Ugh.

So far I haven't heard anything out of the surrounds even though the receiver is lit up as DD 5.1

Viewing on HR20 connected to Panny 50" 1080p plasma.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 09:57 AM
Well I'm not keeping my hopes up for good PQ on NBC-HD.
With any movement of objects or cameras the video on WNBC-DT always macroblocks plus WNBC has 2 sub channels.

JCL
07-07-07, 09:57 AM
Is any network doing live coverage?

Sundance is showing short films, and Bravo the same at the moment.

For SD they just said Bravo is the home for the NY Concert.

We can't see UHD here in Canada, but based on the posts here in this thread I think it is on taped delay. The live stuff we see in Canada appears later on UHD, but you're not missing any of the good stuff. Somebody tell me when you're getting the Genesis stuff.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 09:59 AM
UHD coverage seems to be one song, commercial, environmental lecture, one song, commercial, lecture, rinse, repeat. Ugh.

This seems to be the same for Sundance Channel.
One song, environmental lecture video, one song, lecture etc. etc.

Anyone else find it ironic Live Earth is using the FOX News Channel voice over guy :p
Any type of Global Warming is a myth according to FOX.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 10:08 AM
We can't see UHD here in Canada, but based on the posts here in this thread I think it is on taped delay. The live stuff we see in Canada appears later on UHD, but you're not missing any of the good stuff. Somebody tell me when you're getting the Genesis stuff.

I have Genesis on Sundance channel now. I don't have UHD so I don't know what's on. Bravo is showing more replays from Japan.

Sundance is showing the World Feed that's on the Live Earth web site.

ftboomer
07-07-07, 10:31 AM
Phil Collins and Genesis sounded pretty darn good.

BTW, watching on Universal HD

dougb415
07-07-07, 10:38 AM
Phil Collins and Genesis sounded pretty darn good.

BTW, watching on Universal HD

Same here, tho by the time I turned it on all I got was "Invisible Touch" and then they were done.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 10:47 AM
Unless I missed it all we got on Bravo and Sundance was "Turn it on".

ftboomer
07-07-07, 10:52 AM
The propaganda in between singers is amazing

mtiffee
07-07-07, 11:19 AM
What the heck, this isn't HD. This is 16x9 SD. Well, at least it's widescreen.

sandiegojoe
07-07-07, 11:20 AM
The propaganda in between singers is amazing

that's cause the bands have been so bad, that all the video clips in between really seem interesting. :D

4 hours in and finally a decent band, the John Butler Trio, comes on... Thank God for DVRs. 22 hours of music, and about 3 bands I want to see.

1 down... two to go.

mtiffee
07-07-07, 11:34 AM
What is this crap? You can hear Garth Brooks' guitar, but not his singing.

sandiegojoe
07-07-07, 11:40 AM
Jack Johnson sounded good. I think that comes to a total of 3 songs in the first 5 hours I've listened to.

mtiffee
07-07-07, 11:45 AM
When did he play, rewinding now, love Jack Johnson.

Lumpy
07-07-07, 11:54 AM
It's like there was no sound check with Garth and even he seemed to notice.

sandiegojoe
07-07-07, 11:57 AM
When did he play, rewinding now, love Jack Johnson.

umm, before crowded house.. maybe 4 hours in? Only 1 or 2 songs though.

MEanwhile Wolfmother and linkin park get like a half hour each :( uggh.

oh well...

Lumpy
07-07-07, 12:03 PM
I've only vaguely heard of "Wolfmother" but their somewhat lame zep style (especially the horrific Plant-esque singing mockery) and the attempt to get the crowd into it was comical.

I did like the retro acid rock guitar solo though. What was with the bassist/keyboard wrestling match?

DaveFi
07-07-07, 12:30 PM
It's nice of UHD to sell junk inbetween, just to sort of even things out. Original "Space Bag" indeed.:D LOL

icemannyr
07-07-07, 12:35 PM
So better or worse then MTV's coverage of Live Aid 8?

For get Carbon can we buy Commercial offsets? :p

icemannyr
07-07-07, 01:09 PM
Bravo finally showed another Genesis song, "World of Confusion".
I don't know why they will not show more then one song at a time.

I wonder if NBC will letterbox their SD coverage? No Letterboxing on Bravo or Sundance.

JCL
07-07-07, 01:22 PM
What the heck, this isn't HD. This is 16x9 SD. Well, at least it's widescreen.

From what we can tell up here in Canada via CTV-HD, Sydney, Tokyo, Shanghai, London are all sending out HD. Johannsberg was definitely upconverted SD in widescreen, Washington D.C. ("last minute addition") was also upconverted SD. I couldn't tell if Hamburg is HD or not, because it's not as crisp as London but not as blurry as Washington or Johannsberg.

Not sure what y'all watching on UHD now, but live on CTV-HD now is Enrique Iglesias from Hamburg.

tokerblue
07-07-07, 01:25 PM
Aargh. I switched the channel by palming my remote and lost the buffer. Does anyone know the name of the female singer that went on a little before John Legend? I believe she had dark brown or black hair...

Lumpy
07-07-07, 01:26 PM
The shorts are amusing and even a little inspiring but yeah, the UHD commercials are a bit hypocritical at best.

Not the gridlock video again. Once is plenty but it's getting really annoying now.

Toker: Her name was Maria Mena.

Missed her first time around, but wow. Besides her talent , her pure black eyes are mesmerizing.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 01:30 PM
Speaking of ads it's ironic you have the celebs and artists talking about being vegan or not eating meat and then Bravo runs an ad for A1 Stake Sauce :p

As I mentioned I don't have access to HD coverage till NBC but so far the coverage on Bravo and Sundance is underwhelming.

Why can't they show a full set on Bravo and then go to break?

I still think there are Genesis songs that never aired.

JCL
07-07-07, 01:33 PM
Aargh. I switched the channel by palming my remote and lost the buffer. Does anyone know the name of the female singer that went on a little before John Legend? I believe she had dark brown or black hair...

Just gone back to check my buffer too........ were you referring to Maria Mena, who performed in Hamburg?

tokerblue
07-07-07, 01:40 PM
Just gone back to check my buffer too........ were you referring to Maria Mena, who performed in Hamburg?
- I just checked the Live Earth site and it does look like her. By chance did they list the song she was singing?

icemannyr
07-07-07, 01:45 PM
Corinne Bailey Ray? She was singing with John Legend.

tokerblue
07-07-07, 01:47 PM
It definitely wasn't Corrinne. :)

I think it was Maria Mena singing "Just Hold Me".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_NLgATkv0&mode=related&search=

I still can't believe I fat fingered the remote.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 01:48 PM
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1314/000939a1vs7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) not her?

JCL
07-07-07, 01:48 PM
- I just checked the Live Earth site and it does look like her. By chance did they list the song she was singing?

"Sorry" from the 2004 Album "White Turns Blue". That's the song that was aired on CTV. Could be a different song on UHD.

http://www.azlyrics.com/m/mariamena.html

tokerblue
07-07-07, 01:51 PM
"Sorry" from the 2004 Album "White Turns Blue". That's the song that was aired on CTV. Could be a different song on UHD.

http://www.azlyrics.com/m/mariamena.html
- Much thanks.

tokerblue
07-07-07, 01:53 PM
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1314/000939a1vs7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) not her?
Thanks. I definitely know who Corrinne is since she's been on TV so much. It's definitely looking like it's Maria Mena. The only other person that was on the Live Earth list near John Legen was Missy Higgins.

http://www.liveearth.msn.com/about/factsheet

Lumpy
07-07-07, 01:54 PM
The camera shaking to DD's bass was actually kinda cool. I wonder if it was intentional.

JCL
07-07-07, 01:58 PM
Thanks. I definitely know who Corrinne is since she's been on TV so much. It's definitely looking like it's Maria Mena. The only other person that was on the Live Earth list near John Legen was Missy Higgins.

http://www.liveearth.msn.com/about/factsheet

Thanks. This list is very helpful. It actually lists the performers in order.

Lumpy
07-07-07, 02:04 PM
Now we're rocking. RHCP!

bout 20 TiVo min behind.

JCL
07-07-07, 02:13 PM
CTV-HD has Metallica, which is live from Wembley now. 2:13 pm eastern time.

DaveFi
07-07-07, 02:16 PM
Did I miss Spinal Tap? I bet UHD won't even show them.

archiguy
07-07-07, 02:17 PM
Watching the UHD telecast via TWC and noticed in the guide that this "show" ends at 10:00 tonight and a new entry, still the concert, begins then and runs until 2:00 AM (EDT). Might this second entry be a "best of", or are they saving the "big" acts until then? I don't want to start a recording now because I don't have enough disk space to record it all day and tonight, and I want to be able to FF through and catch the few acts I'd want to see.

JCL
07-07-07, 02:18 PM
Spinal Tap has not appeared on the live feed here in Canada. It's "on deck" after Metallica.

groggrog
07-07-07, 02:20 PM
No surprise that the only U.S. HD feed is not showing anything live. This always happens with these concerts. I can't understand why in the world UHD can't cover London and NJ live. If Canada's seeing Metallica live in HD now, why aren't we?

Yeesh

Lumpy
07-07-07, 02:29 PM
It's 1130am PST now so that would make it 2:30 EST so there must be some delay on UHD. Hopefully it's not huge. I haven't been a fan especially since they became a RIAA spokesband. Today's about free music for a cause not a profit margin.

The US networks moral standards are so prudish they would never allow an oppurtunity to break decency rules that might reflect reality.

DaveFi
07-07-07, 02:30 PM
Spinal Tap has not appeared on the live feed here in Canada. It's "on deck" after Metallica.Thx. I probably won't get a chance to see them. I have no patience to sit through the whole concert, there really isn't enough to appeal to me. It will be interesting to see how the crowd (mostly kids) reacts to them. I hope they do "Big Bottom".;)

icemannyr
07-07-07, 02:31 PM
Wow Giants stadium is super empty.

JCL
07-07-07, 02:32 PM
Thx. I probably won't get a chance to see them. I have no patience to sit through the whole concert, there really isn't enough to appeal to me. It will be interesting to see how the crowd (mostly kids) reacts to them. I hope they do "Big Bottom".;)

Actually they are not "mostly kids", there are plenty of forty- and fifty-somethings among them.

DaveFi
07-07-07, 02:34 PM
Actually they are not "mostly kids", there are plenty of forty- and fifty-somethings among them.From what I've seen I haven't noticed it, at least from the camera shots of Hamburg near the stage.

I imagine Spinal Tap is performing in the US?

Run4two
07-07-07, 02:36 PM
I can only begin to say how disappointed I am in UHD's coverage!

:(

Lumpy
07-07-07, 02:41 PM
Any opinions about the T-shirt Inglesius was wearing? "Indianapolis 500" I guess a statement about alcohol fuel.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 02:41 PM
From what I've seen I haven't noticed it, at least from the camera shots of Hamburg near the stage.

I imagine Spinal Tap is performing in the US?

No they are in the UK and were on after Metallica.


Whats on UHD now?

Bravo just showed the first performers KENNA and are now showing filler from other concerts till KT TUNSTALL comes on.

groggrog
07-07-07, 02:47 PM
UHD just got done showing Enrique Iglesias and are just beginning the UK coverage with Corinne Bailey Rae. Yawn.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 02:47 PM
I stand corrected, Bravo showed Kevin Bacon doing the intro for KT Tunstall. :)

BTW This concert is NOT in New York. It's in East Rutherford, NJ in Giants Stdium. :p

On the Bravo feed the audio from the drums cut out. Live Earth can't afford a Live logo?

groggrog
07-07-07, 02:52 PM
The good thing is that UHD is continuing til 2 am, so if they don't show something now maybe they'll be showing it later. I'm pretty happy with their coverage in general, I just wish it was live. I understand that's not entirely possible since the concerts are happening at the same time, but they could have done the two main shows at least live. Oh well.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 02:54 PM
I think Bravo's coverag from the NJ is live.
UHD is sticking with replays and has not been live?

I guess at least NBC will be live.

b.greenway
07-07-07, 02:56 PM
Wow Giants stadium is super empty.
Everyone did their part to conserve energy apparently.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 03:01 PM
Nah they just don't want to sit in the sun all day :p

I'll bet by the time the 2nd half starts around when John Mayer is on it will be full.

Here's the list for Giants Stadium:
KENNA
KT TUNSTALL
TAKING BACK SUNDAY
KEITH URBAN
LUDACRIS
AFI
FALL OUT BOY
AKON
JOHN MAYER
MELISSA ETHERIDGE
ALICIA KEYS
DAVE MATTHEWS BAND
KELLY CLARKSON
KANYE WEST
BON JOVI
SMASHING PUMPKINS
ROGER WATERS
THE POLICE

sangs
07-07-07, 03:06 PM
Wow Giants stadium is super empty.


You know how much it costs to fill up an SUV these days? :p We're watching from home. (Actually, I wouldn't watch the first half of the Giants Stadium ticket unless they strapped me to a chair and pried open my eyes with toothpicks.)

icemannyr
07-07-07, 03:15 PM
No offense to the other bands and performers but,
the only other place in the Giants Stadium schedule where I say we start getting into the bigger bands is John Mayer.

Now we are getting ads on Bravo and they are not showing Taking Back Sunday who is live on stage now :mad: :rolleyes:

icemannyr
07-07-07, 03:18 PM
Ok now I'm confused, they showed a wide shot of the stadium and I saw Taking Back Sunday on stage with the lights flashing.

Unless they were tuning up I would say Bravo is on a delay :confused:

They seem to be having some audio problems already in Giants stadium.

The mic for the guitar player was not audible for half of the first song.

Lumpy
07-07-07, 03:24 PM
Thanks to UHD I've decided not to see "The Bourne Redundancy".

Metallica just starting on UHD. Been there, seen that. 15 years ago.

What? No huge propane flash pots? I remember feeling the heat from the mezzanine when I saw them, way back when.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 03:31 PM
Are the World and UHD feed in sync?

Metallica is doing Enter Sandman on Sundance Channel's World Feed.

The World feed is uncensored BTW. Metallica singer just said sh!t :p

icemannyr
07-07-07, 03:38 PM
So it looks like we get no live coverage today.

Bravo is on a 15 to 20min delay :mad: :confused:

I just checked the web feed and Keith Urban is already playing while Bravo is showing old clips. :rolleyes:

Can anyone tell me the last time a tv network broadcasted a concert all day but did it via tape delay? Why can't Bravo show the USA concert live?

JCL
07-07-07, 03:48 PM
So it looks like we get no live coverage today.

Bravo is on a 15 to 20min delay :mad: :confused:

I just checked the web feed and Keith Urban is already playing while Bravo is showing old clips. :rolleyes:

Can anyone tell me the last time a tv network broadcasted a concert all day but did it via tape delay? Why can't Bravo show the USA concert live?

I think none of the U.S. networks are live because they're afraid of being fined by the FCC if somebody utters a profanity. Plus, not being live gives them the luxury of editing, scheduling, or, for the lack of a better word, a "safety net".

NBC said they'll have some live stuff. But I guess those will be on a five-second delay.

Lumpy
07-07-07, 03:51 PM
Gee. 2 whole songs, OK 3. Budget constraints, I guess.

Metallica probably charged 3/4 the price of the future of our environment to broadcast worldwide.

jabbathespud
07-07-07, 03:52 PM
This broadcast shows why TiVo was invented. Glad I decided to record all 22 hours.
2.5 hours of watching and I'm almost 10 hours in.

TVOD
07-07-07, 03:54 PM
I think none of the U.S. networks are live because they're afraid of being fined by the FCC if somebody utters a profanity.Cable networks are not fined for profanity.

DevOne
07-07-07, 03:55 PM
Universal HD's coverage is worse than MTV's "Live 8". I really loathe the fact UHD is going with ad-breaks in the middle of performances. You would hope after MTVN's "mea culpa" over the atrocious "Live 8" presentation, NBCU would take that into consideration. Since UHD's broadcast is delayed anyway, why not edit an ad-break between acts? At least you create the illusion of not cheating the viewer.

Ronan
07-07-07, 03:55 PM
It's a bit irritating listening to the beeb apologising every 10 mins for someone using bad language. We usually don't give a sh*t what people say :)

The pussycat dolls are on BBC-HD at the moment.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 03:57 PM
The Concert for Diana was live and they were able to catch the curse words and delete them.

I just don't see why Bravo needs to be on a 20min delay.

Lumpy
07-07-07, 04:02 PM
The Washington DC techs are totally incompetent. They absolutely disrespect Blues Nation.

CKNA
07-07-07, 04:02 PM
I think none of the U.S. networks are live because they're afraid of being fined by the FCC if somebody utters a profanity. Plus, not being live gives them the luxury of editing, scheduling, or, for the lack of a better word, a "safety net".

NBC said they'll have some live stuff. But I guess those will be on a five-second delay.

FCC can't find anybody for profanity if it is on cable. Those rules only apply for OTA. Cable stations can show anything they want.

JCL
07-07-07, 04:06 PM
It's a bit irritating listening to the beeb apologising every 10 mins for someone using bad language. We usually don't give a sh*t what people say :)

The pussycat dolls are on BBC-HD at the moment.

Also live on CTV-HD in Canada a moment ago. Foo Fighters' up next in Wembley.

ABCTV99
07-07-07, 04:07 PM
For everyone who complained about the 4th of July shows this is a definite exercise in bad camera directing. Just absolutely awful. I thought the Diana concert was bad but this is almost unwatchable.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 04:10 PM
The Washington DC techs are totally incompetent. They absolutely disrespect Blues Nation.

How can they not have enough time to make sure Garth Brooks mic works?

If they are not showing it live on TV why not do it over again with audio from the mics?

The official delay time for Bravo is 25min.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 04:12 PM
For everyone who complained about the 4th of July shows this is a definite exercise in bad camera directing. Just absolutely awful. I thought the Diana concert was bad but this is almost unwatchable.

I guess the UK director is in love with the crash zooms :rolleyes:

Ronan
07-07-07, 04:20 PM
Foo Fighters' up next in Wembley.

Crank up that volume! That's woken the crowd up.

JCL
07-07-07, 04:22 PM
For everyone who complained about the 4th of July shows this is a definite exercise in bad camera directing. Just absolutely awful. I thought the Diana concert was bad but this is almost unwatchable.

I was expressing my criticism of the camerawork of the Diana Concert last weekend. And within hours somebody jumped in and reminded me that a) it was all for a good cause, and b) those camera and tech guys had barely enough time to set up.

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 04:23 PM
CTV HD just gives a warning during commercial breaks ... something to the effect, this is a live performance ... languaage may not be appropriate for all family members. The F words and others come through un-bleeped.

Canadian television has always worked that way. I have heard bad language on some CBC programming. You will also occasionally see nudity of Canadian television.

sneals2000
07-07-07, 04:24 PM
Is any network doing live coverage?

Sundance is showing short films, and Bravo the same at the moment.

For SD they just said Bravo is the home for the NY Concert.

Think BBC HD and BBC One 16:9 SD are in the UK - along with the option of BBCi offering other feeds (which at the time I'm watching are replays of the other regions)

Picture quality isn't the highest - looks like a not-very high rate MPEG2 backhaul being used in the UK.

Wembley, Hamburg and the Giants Stadium all HD in the UK. Didn't see Sydney, Tokyo or much of Jo'burg.

The BBC have an on-site presentation studio at Wembley, and cross to this between performances, as BBC Editorial guidelines preclude showing the Live Earth concert short films. (This is a result of an impartiality enquiry post-Live8)

I'm still quite impressed at the amount of HD and - given the circumstances - the quality of the production hasn't been that bad. Certainly if you've re-watched Live Aid recently this is a LOT better...

One thing also to point out is that UK TV directors seem to cut and direct music very differently from US directors. When comparing Pop Idol/The X Factor with American Idol the cut-rate on the UK version is MUCH higher, with far shorter shots and a lot more crash zooms, and whip pans used in UK coverage. Think this isn't just a US/UK thing - as most Scandinavian music coverage is also quite close to UK coverage in style.

JCL
07-07-07, 04:27 PM
CTV HD just gives a warning during commercial breaks ... something to the effect, this is a live performance ... languaage may not be appropriate for all family members. The F words and others come through un-bleeped.

They did that after every commercial break. So does MMM, MM, Bravo and Star!

Gojhawks
07-07-07, 04:30 PM
It's Spinal Tap!!!!!!! Finally!

sneals2000
07-07-07, 04:31 PM
For everyone who complained about the 4th of July shows this is a definite exercise in bad camera directing. Just absolutely awful. I thought the Diana concert was bad but this is almost unwatchable.

Worth remembering that this is almost all ad-libbed, on-the-hoof, un-rehearsed coverage, rather than tightly scripted, highly edited concert coverage (where often ISOs are used to tighten things up, and in some cases multiple takes from multiple performances are merged...)

Concerts like Live Aid, Live8, Glastonbury, Diana and Live Earth are a different type of event to a standard concert performance. You don't get to see the acts do their "thing" much before their doing it live.

AAF
07-07-07, 04:36 PM
The Tap is the perfect band for this extravaganza.

Gojhawks
07-07-07, 04:38 PM
The Tap was great! Stonehenge and Big Bottom. Very cool.

JCL
07-07-07, 04:42 PM
FCC can't find anybody for profanity if it is on cable. Those rules only apply for OTA. Cable stations can show anything they want.

In Canada, the CRTC (counterpart to the FCC) appears to be more flexible. That's why you can hear profanity on OTA.

TVOD
07-07-07, 04:45 PM
One thing also to point out is that UK TV directors seem to cut and direct music very differently from US directors. When comparing Pop Idol/The X Factor with American Idol the cut-rate on the UK version is MUCH higher, with far shorter shots and a lot more crash zooms, and whip pans used in UK coverage.The irony is that the AI director - Bruce Gowers - is a Brit as is producer Nigel Lythgoe.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 04:47 PM
You can curse on network TV in th USA but I believe only on shows aired after 10pm. They used the word sh!t on NYPD Blue.

Man that AFI singer is scary looking. The one time I'm gald in not watching in HD.

vurbano
07-07-07, 04:48 PM
Donations for what? What kind of a scam are they running?

Maybe they will give all the money to the same business ALGORE buys his energy offsets from. The company that he owns and that invests the money for a profit to return back to him. Give! Give! Give! :rolleyes:

JCL
07-07-07, 04:50 PM
Live on CTV-HD now, Russell Brand is introducing a short-film to be followed by Madonna, the final act of the evening in London.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 04:51 PM
The irony is that the AI director - Bruce Gowers - is a Brit as is producer Nigel Lythgoe.

Actually I think when I said UK I meant Germany.
During the Metallica set there were alot of crash zooms.

David Bowie is being vocally murdered by AFI on Bravo :rolleyes:

JCL
07-07-07, 04:57 PM
Terrance Stamp is actually doing the official intro for Madonna.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 05:03 PM
PussyCat Dolls just aired on Bravo.
Bravo still on the 25min delay.

JCL
07-07-07, 05:07 PM
PussyCat Dolls just aired on Bravo.
Bravo still on the 25min delay.

Much more than 25min. More like 1 hour.

JCL
07-07-07, 05:08 PM
Madonna has just uttered an expletive between the first and second song.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 05:13 PM
Much more than 25min. More like 1 hour.

I don't think it's an hour delay. Fall Out Boy is on Bravo and Akon has not started yet on the live feed. I'll see when Akon starts on the live feed and when it airs on Bravo.

Edit. Ok you might be right. John Mayer is live but Fall Out Boy is still on Bravo :p

icemannyr
07-07-07, 05:15 PM
Wow Madonna lost her Brittish accent :P

MagicGarden
07-07-07, 05:17 PM
Maybe they will give all the money to the same business ALGORE buys his energy offsets from. The company that he owns and that invests the money for a profit to return back to him. Give! Give! Give! :rolleyes:

;)

This whole thing is making me want to puke. If the "musicians" telling me how to save mother earth isn't enough to do it, the little lessons on how to be a better person that they are showing between performances will.

Because of this concert, I am going to heat my house this winter with all of the doors and windows wide open. :D

JCL
07-07-07, 05:17 PM
I don't think it's an hour delay. Fall Out Boy is on Bravo and Akon has not started yet on the live feed. I'll see when Akon starts on the live feed and when it airs on Bravo.

Edit. Ok you might be right. John Mayer is live but Fall Out Boy is still on Bravo :p

I was referring to the London feed. The delay from different cities may vary. Madonna started at 5:01 pm eastern time (10:01 pm London). You'll be seeing her after 6:00 in the U.S.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 05:18 PM
Oh ok. Understood. Yes Bravo is using the UK and other performances between the USA bands. Now they are playing Jack Johnson on Bravo.

I'll check when John Mayer starts on Bravo to tell the delay for the USA concert.

I must say for web feeds the audio and video are very good.

I've not watched the non Internet Explorer feeds yet.

JCL
07-07-07, 05:22 PM
Madonna's long set may be putting the London show in violation of the 10:30 pm London ordinance. 8 more minutes. I hate to be the stagehand who goes on stage to pull the plug on her.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 05:26 PM
What's the fine for going over? Does the power to the audio get cut?

JCL
07-07-07, 05:28 PM
What's the fine for going over? Does the power to the audio get cut?

Sneals might know. Don't worry 'bout it. She's just finished with 120 seconds to spare.

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 05:33 PM
;)

This whole thing is making me want to puke. If the "musicians" telling me how to save mother earth isn't enough to do it, the little lessons on how to be a better person that they are showing between performances will.

Because of this concert, I am going to heat my house this winter with all of the doors and windows wide open. :D

And it is because of morons like you the planet is in so much trouble!!!! If you had a brain ...

JCL
07-07-07, 05:36 PM
Rio is not in HD, but that's okay.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 05:48 PM
The Bravo delay is now close to 50min :rolleyes:
I understand if they delay it they can make sure full sets air but if the UK Concert was live on the BBC any can't Bravo do the same?

Ah now I get it! Al wants us to turn our HD TV's and home theater systems off and watch it live only on our computers :p

Gojhawks
07-07-07, 05:50 PM
Pussycat Dolls in HD. Nice.

Splicer010
07-07-07, 05:51 PM
Well the pussycatdolls are on uhd now but my wife said she say them on bravo earlier??? Are these performers going twice??? I can say this...the audio sux rather loudly IMHO...

icemannyr
07-07-07, 05:55 PM
Well the pussycatdolls are on uhd now but my wife said she say them on bravo earlier??? Are these performers going twice??? I can say this...the audio sux rather loudly IMHO...

I noticed during some performances some mics were low or not working.

Bravo is showing tape delayed coverage. It's all of the USA Concert with segments from the other venus in between the USA artists.

I believe the coverage on UHD matches the coverage on the Sundance Channel.
There will also be coverage supposedly on CNBC at 7pm.

Gojhawks
07-07-07, 06:00 PM
UHD has been jumping around showing essentially a "best of" all day.

sneals2000
07-07-07, 06:02 PM
Sneals might know. Don't worry 'bout it. She's just finished with 120 seconds to spare.

Yep - finished before the curfew - just - and in time for BBC One to go to the 2230 evening News, BBC HD to show a 20 minute filler, before we rejoin Live Earth until 0400-ish on both networks (BBC One in SD and BBC HD in HD).

Lumpy
07-07-07, 06:10 PM
Can't believe I snoozed through Spinal Taps triumphant return to the stage with what has to be the most bass guitars on one stage I've ever seen.

MagicGarden
07-07-07, 06:10 PM
And it is because of morons like you the planet is in so much trouble!!!! If you had a brain ...


Put down your tofu burger and get off your high horse. Your arrogance may allow you to believe that the fate of the world rests in your "enlightened" hands, but many of us know better, my friend.

Now leave me alone, I didn't insult you with my initial post.

Gojhawks
07-07-07, 06:17 PM
Can't believe I snoozed through Spinal Taps triumphant return to the stage with what has to be the most bass guitars on one stage I've ever seen.

I was a bit disappointed the drummer appeared to survive the set ......... :)

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 06:25 PM
Now leave me alone, I didn't insult you with my initial post.

Oh, yes you did ... you insulted every intelligent person on this precious, fragile planet! If you don't like the message don't watch! The message is the reason for the concert! It is main purpose is not just to entertain!

Lumpy
07-07-07, 06:27 PM
I was a bit disappointed the drummer appeared to survive the set ......... :)

LOL :D

The stones seemed to be even larger than I remember too. The bottoms most certainly were.

IAM4UK
07-07-07, 06:29 PM
So, any musical highlights? Noteworthy performances?
Will MHD show some of the better performances, minus the claptrap?
I didn't watch any of the events, because I didn't want to wade through the clutter of "climate in crisis" nonsense. I won't begrudge anyone their belief in such a calamity, so long as they don't suggest we spend any money on some big "solution." It does not cost me anything to be a good steward of the blessings I enjoy, nor to be responsible rather than wasteful. And I know better than to overestimate my impact on creation.

MagicGarden
07-07-07, 06:36 PM
Oh, yes you did ... you insulted every intelligent person on this precious, fragile planet!

I knew you were going to say something like that! lol

Hey, I don't think that the planet's fate rests in our hands and you do. I'm not going to change your mind any more than you will be changing mine.

Have a good weekend. :)

sneals2000
07-07-07, 06:40 PM
So, any musical highlights? Noteworthy performances?
Will MHD show some of the better performances, minus the claptrap?
I didn't watch any of the events, because I didn't want to wade through the clutter of "climate in crisis" nonsense. I won't begrudge anyone their belief in such a calamity, so long as they don't suggest we spend any money on some big "solution." It does not cost me anything to be a good steward of the blessings I enjoy, nor to be responsible rather than wasteful. And I know better than to overestimate my impact on creation.

You would have enjoyed the BBC coverage then. They weren't allowed to show any of the Live Earth produced films (a result of a BBC in-house report on Live 8 coverage last year which had some misgivings) - and instead interviewed BBC News Science and Environment correspondents about the current mainstream accepted facts and context of climate change.

The scale of construction of fossil fuel burning power stations in the developing world has to be a cause for concern though - it is something like one new coal fired power station being built every week in China alone. I don't begrudge developing countries a thirst for development and a wish to achieve a similar standard of living to those of us lucky enough to live in the developed world - but I do think those of us in the developed world haven't set an entirely good example of good stewardship, and there is a definite onus on us to behave more responsibly in our use of finite resources.

Lumpy
07-07-07, 06:40 PM
MG has 4 posts here and their all in this thread. Ignore him.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 06:50 PM
Melissa Etheridge done ranting indirectly about Bush and Iraq War? :rolleyes:
I thought this was about Global Warming?

Lumpy
07-07-07, 06:58 PM
They aren't mutually exclusive topics.

archiguy
07-07-07, 06:59 PM
Melissa Etheridge done ranting indirectly about Bush and Iraq War? :rolleyes:
I thought this was about Global Warming?

A whole bunch of global warming is being created to produce and prosecute this war. He started the war, whether you think he had a good reason for doing it or not, and it shows no sign of ending any time soon. Makes perfect sense if you look at it that way. Maybe that's her point...?

icemannyr
07-07-07, 07:02 PM
FYI: I did not mean my post as a direct attack, just an observation.

KKyuubi
07-07-07, 07:09 PM
In Canada, the CRTC (counterpart to the FCC) appears to be more flexible. That's why you can hear profanity on OTA.

Yeah, but also, according to the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council's "Violence Act", all Canadian channels (even cable channels) are required to display disclamiers if the show may contain content not suitable for younger viewers.

Gojhawks
07-07-07, 07:11 PM
I have to admit I have been impressed with Alicia Keys' set. She has done a really nice job. I sure hope I get to watch it in HD. Talk about eye candy!!!!

JCL
07-07-07, 07:19 PM
I have to admit I have been impressed with Alicia Keys' set. She has done a really nice job. I sure hope I get to watch it in HD. Talk about eye candy!!!!

Talking about eye candy........ CTV-HD in Canada interrupted Alicia's nice set with a brief press-box interview with Cameron Diaz. The interruption was in SD only.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 07:22 PM
Yeah lets hope for Alicia Keys in HD on NBC :)

Bravo finally showing Madonna.

For those without UHD or Sundance the World Feed is now on also CNBC.

DigitalfreakNYC
07-07-07, 07:40 PM
UHD hasn't shown Madonna yet...even though she performed 90 minutes ago.

Bravo only showed "Hey You."

My girl gave a killer set. Still waiting for it in HD. They better show all 4 songs.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 07:47 PM
Could they be saving that for NBC?

DigitalfreakNYC
07-07-07, 07:52 PM
Could they be saving that for NBC?

Doesn't matter. UniversalHD will continue. AFAIK, it's not going to change over to NBC at 8pm.

EDIT: ROL now on Bravo.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 07:59 PM
Madonna on Bravo again, "Ray of Light".

icemannyr
07-07-07, 08:06 PM
Getting the usual macroblocking on WNBC-DT but the overall PQ is good.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 08:12 PM
The video of Madonna looks soft and out of focus on NBC-HD.

gushin
07-07-07, 08:14 PM
KRIS-HD in Corpus Christi, TX. Picture quality OK, but sound mono. Is that what everyone else is getting just mono sound?

Gojhawks
07-07-07, 08:18 PM
The video of Madonna looks soft and out of focus on NBC-HD.
I have noticed all day that there is one camera that is really soft in London. When they would show the London venue on UHD most cameras looked good and then switched to what looked like a center camera which looked soft, almost out of focus.

JCL
07-07-07, 08:29 PM
Madonna leads off on NBC. Looks like HD to me.

CTVHD-east coast feed cheapened out at 8:00 pm and began simulcasting NBC-HD's feed. "..... We've got this great NBC special coming to you people watching from Manitoba east". Must be Seamus' dinner break.

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 08:30 PM
It is 5:20pm PDT ...

CTV HD WEST is showing Bon Jovi LIVE ... HD PQ is excellent!
CTV HD EAST is showing highlights from the concerts (simucasting NBC)

From Bell ExpressVu

icemannyr
07-07-07, 08:31 PM
Total Hours of live coverage in USA = 0

BON JOVI is live now on the web feed with SMASHING PUMPKINS, ROGER WATERS and THE POLICE left to perform.

I would guess NBC will show ROGER WATERS and THE POLICE live.

JCL
07-07-07, 08:35 PM
It is 5:20pm PDT ...

CTV HD WEST is showing Bon Jovi LIVE
CTV HD EAST is showing highlights from the concerts (simucasting NBC)

From Bell ExpressVu

The West coast gets to see 3 more hours than the East. Less hope some of these turns up live on NBC.

mtiffee
07-07-07, 08:37 PM
Live would be cool, but you know, I've enjoyed watching UHD and their coverage today. Yes, it's full of environmental messages and infomercials, but i've been on DVR delay all day and have been able to fast forward through that crap. They've had their share of audio issues and HD issues, and yes it's only 2.0 but it is digital stereo and they've had some pretty cool acts on today. I mean come on, Spinal tap? with Metallica? Awesome. And the mother holding the baby wearing ear muffs during Foo Fighters, Classic.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 08:41 PM
I have to give Bravo credit for showing the whole USA concert even if it is on delay. I just wish we could get even one song live on NBC.


Wow I just saw live video of the concert on NBC!
But it was out the window of the press box where Ann Curry is doing her live intros from :p

JCL
07-07-07, 08:48 PM
NBC is running a slight electronic delay. How I can tell? CTV's simulcast of NBC is ahead by about 3 seconds.

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 08:51 PM
I have often complained about all the American HD channels that are not available in Canada. However, at times there is an advantage living in Canada when it comes to HDTV ... LIVE EARTH is one of those times.

Thank you CTV HD ... sometimes there was a bit too much switching venues, but overall a good job!

By the way, Bon Jovi was awesome! Now we go Live to Rio!

JCL
07-07-07, 08:51 PM
I have often complained about all the American HD channels that are not available in Canada. However, at times there is an advantage living in Canada when it comes to HDTV ... LIVE EARTH is one of those times.

Thank you CTV HD ... sometimes there was a bit too much switching venues, but overall a good job!

By the way, Bon Jovi was awesome!

Ditto!

icemannyr
07-07-07, 08:53 PM
NBC edited out the part where the mic did not work for the DC performance with Garth Brooks.

sneals2000
07-07-07, 08:56 PM
NBC is running a slight electronic delay. How I can tell? CTV's simulcast of NBC is ahead by about 3 seconds.

3" is enough to be a result of link latency differences between distribution paths - it doesn't have to mean an additional "profanity" delay is in circuit.

sneals2000
07-07-07, 08:59 PM
I have noticed all day that there is one camera that is really soft in London. When they would show the London venue on UHD most cameras looked good and then switched to what looked like a center camera which looked soft, almost out of focus.

One of the tracking cameras - camera right of the stage at Wembley - seemed to be suffering heavily from either a dodgy track/mounting, or was being blasted by a very hefty foldback speaker, and seemed to be very wobbly or losing focus. (Could be a servo issue I guess?)

Didn't notice any of the static rostra-mounted cameras looking noticably softer on BBC HD though.

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 09:01 PM
NBC is running a slight electronic delay. How I can tell? CTV's simulcast of NBC is ahead by about 3 seconds.

I don't know exactly why, but I have noticed that there is a delay between providers in Canada on live broadcasts regardless of channel ... I think Star Choice is about 3 seconds behind Bell ExpressVu.

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 09:04 PM
A security nightmare when these artists decide go out into the audience during their performance!

JCL
07-07-07, 09:05 PM
I don't know exactly why, but I have noticed that there is a delay between providers in Canada on live broadcasts regardless of channel ... I think Star Choice is about 3 seconds behind Bell ExpressVu.

I wouldn't be able to explain such wonders of technology. I have Rogers cable and even it's analog and digital signals aren't in sync. By the way, they have just started substituting CTV-HD on top of NBC-HD. Perhaps we shouldn't use this thread to enlighten all our American friends about this uniquely Canadian phenomenon. :-(

sneals2000
07-07-07, 09:05 PM
I don't know exactly why, but I have noticed that there is a delay between providers in Canada on live broadcasts regardless of channel ... I think Star Choice is about 3 seconds behind Bell ExpressVu.

Yep - delay entirely depends on the distribution infrastructure and encoder configuration. Different MPEG2 / MPEG4 encoders with different configs can introduce different amounts of delays, and concatenation of multiple compress/decompress processes will add to this, as will differing distribution and backhaul / RBR (Receive Re Broadcast) systems (fibre v satellite etc.).

sneals2000
07-07-07, 09:07 PM
I wouldn't be able to explain such wonders of technology. I have Rogers cable and even it's analog and digital signals aren't in sync. By the way, they have just started substituting CTV-HD on top of NBC-HD. Perhaps we use this thread to shouldn't bore all our American friends about this uniquely Canadian phenomenon. :-(

It is common for analogue and digital signals to be out of sync - and usual for the digital signal to be delayed when compared to the analogue, as analogue encoding is usually near-instantaneous (ARCs/Downconverters permitting), whilst digital encoding usually introduces a reasonable number of frames of delay to allow for MPEG2 / MPEG4 temporal compression (where a number of frames are stored and analysed to allow compression based on motion between frames)

paule123
07-07-07, 09:09 PM
The PQ on NBC OTA looks about the same as UHD over D*... not HDNet quality, but not terrible. Too bad they couldn't do DD 5.1 audio from the venues, I would have watched more of this if there was some "life" to the concert sound. The whole thing seems kinda "flat" to me.

JediMastr
07-07-07, 09:10 PM
ok we are being educated by those with the most excessive lifestyles???? LOL ...I had no idea this was even on, I just tuned to NBC. I hope there are some decent performances, because that's the extent of their influence in my life...unless this concert is going to lower gas prices...no? oh well

JCL
07-07-07, 09:14 PM
NBC's editing seems a bit aggressive. They're cutting some performances in mid-song! That cut from Alicia Keys to Corrine Bailey Rae was so sudden.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 09:17 PM
NBC's editing seems a bit aggressive. They're cutting some performances in mid-song! That cut from Alicia Keys to Corrine Bailey Rae was so sudden.

I thought there was a mistake then.

Faceless Rebel
07-07-07, 09:17 PM
It's Alicia Keys on UHD now. The voice never ceases to amaze, but she might want to consider some calorie counting.

I bet I'm not the only one who watching UHD when they have actual music on, and then switches to Bravo when they start showing the stupid short films and commercials.

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 09:20 PM
CTV HD has chosen to go with Lenny Kravitz in Rio over Smashing Pumpkins in New York. I have no problem with that ... I am sure that many would disagree, but that is my preference! Unfortunately, Rio is only widescreen.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 09:24 PM
Did they cut off Alicia Keys after her song was finished to run ads and then go back to her on UHD/World Feed?

sneals2000
07-07-07, 09:24 PM
unless this concert is going to lower gas prices...no? oh well

Suspect cheap petrol is the last thing these concerts want to encourage... Expensive petrol, to encourage fuel-efficient car design, might be more up their street, in an effort to reduce consumption and thus carbon emissions...

Or do I detect a note of irony in your post...

But then I live in the UK, where a litre of unleaded costs between 93p and £1. (i.e. around $2) - which equates to around $7.60 for a US gallon (or around $9 for a UK gallon) We're getting close to that major psychological "Fiver per gallon" mark...

You can see why compacts are more popular in the UK - with our smaller geography - and why cars that do around 60-70 mpg (that is miles per UK gallon, not per US gallon) are becoming popular. The new VW Polo claims around 72mpg, and there are a lot of Toyata Prius hybrids in London (where they are exempt from the congestion charge - a daily toll for entering central london)

ziltomil
07-07-07, 09:31 PM
The Foo Fighters were excellent!

icemannyr
07-07-07, 09:32 PM
Roger Waters is live and NBC is not showing him BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

WE CAN'T GET ONE LIVE PERFORMANCE ON USA TELEVISION NETWORK?
:rolleyes: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Faceless Rebel
07-07-07, 09:34 PM
Did they cut off Alicia Keys after her song was finished to run ads and then go back to her on UHD/World Feed?

Yup. So I switched to Bravo and saw the end of Shakira's set in Germany, and then went back to Alicia Keys for her song from her new album.

Right now it's UB40 on UHD and Melissa Etheridge on Bravo. I'm not sure which bores me more. I want to see Foo Fighters and Chris Cornell! I already heard them earlier on the radio broadcast but I want to see them on TV. Hopefully they'll put Foo Fighters and Chris Cornell on again later.

edit: I just noticed that MHD is counterprogramming with the Concert for Diana from awhile back. Ha. I guess I could watch that while I wait for UB40 and Melissa Etheridge to go away.

hdtvjunkie247
07-07-07, 09:35 PM
Anyone noticing ghosting on one of the Live shots of "Live Earth" on Universal HD?

icemannyr
07-07-07, 09:37 PM
Foo on Bravo now :)

paule123
07-07-07, 09:47 PM
Roger Waters is live and NBC is not showing him BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

WE CAN'T GET ONE LIVE PERFORMANCE ON USA TELEVISION NETWORK?
:rolleyes: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

It's pissing me off you see Ann Curry with the live performance right there over her shoulder, but NOOOO, we can't see that live, can we... :rolleyes:

Faceless Rebel
07-07-07, 09:48 PM
Great, that means Foo will be on in 3 hours for me. I'm in Seattle.

Kelly Clarkson's on UHD. I don't give the tiniest crap about American Idol but there's no denying that woman's got the real deal on voice.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 09:50 PM
Bravo just cut the Smashing Pumpinks off for an HD. Can't they play the whole dam set back and then run the ads :rolleyes:

Looks like no live coverage on NBC.
They just announed the next two acts to be on NBC and enither was The Police. :rolleyes: :mad:

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 09:59 PM
Roger Waters was great ... great ending with the kids singing along.

And the pig ... Save Our Saugages! What a laugh!!!

HiDef Bob
07-07-07, 10:04 PM
The Police LIVE!!!
Turn up the volume! They sound great! WOW! Not bad sound for prologic.

icemannyr
07-07-07, 10:05 PM
HERE COMES THE POLICE LIVE AND NBC HAS JOSS STONE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

What a fcuking joke this coverage on NBC is.

Just for that I'm leaving my TV on all night and not using the sleep timer :p