Last night on Larry King Live (CNN), Paul and Ringo were commenting on LOVE's 5.1 surround remixes.

Both Paul and especially Ringo were very vocal about how good the 5.1 surround mix brought out the instruments detail that for years was buried in the 2 channel mixes.

CNN's news web site has an article with quotes from the show and the show itself will probably be re-broadcast over the weekend.

Check out Ringo's comment on the next level of surround sound from 5.1...funny stuff.

Yeah... a very cool interview. Paul looked a little nervous when Larry said that when they came back from commercial, they would be joined with Olivia and Yoko. :)

Oh... to have all of the Beatles in DVD-A surround sound!!! Bring it on!

Oh... to have all of the Beatles in DVD-A surround sound!!! Bring it on!

I'll second that! I wonder if it's the fact that the rights are held by Michael Jackson that's keeping this from being done?

I thought I read that MJ basically gave up his rights to Sony on the Beatles titles to cover his huge expenses during "that" trial...

Jackson only owns the songwriting royalties to most (not all) of the Beatles songs, not the recording or performance royalites. But you are right in the fact that he may not control them much longer.
Sony Music loaned Jackson a lot of money to produce his last album, using the future rights of the Beatles songwriting royalities as collateral on the debt. And since the album failed to make back much (or any) of the money that Jackson borrowed from Sony, he may soon lose control to the Beatles songs.
And Sony will own them.

I have the feeling that George and Giles Martin have many Beatles tunes remixed in the can in 5.1 Surround sound. Bet most of,if not all of, Abbey Road, Sgt.Pepppers, White Album, Let It Be,and Revelvor are in 5.1. They did 5.1 for Yellow Submarine DVD and Beatles Anthology DVDs.

Jackson only owns the songwriting royalties to most (not all) of the Beatles songs, not the recording or performance royalites. But you are right in the fact that he may not control them much longer.
Sony Music loaned Jackson a lot of money to produce his last album, using the future rights of the Beatles songwriting royalities as collateral on the debt. And since the album failed to make back much (or any) of the money that Jackson borrowed from Sony, he may soon lose control to the Beatles songs.
And Sony will own them.

I am shocked that someone other than the songwriter or his estate can even own the songwriting royalties.

I am shocked that someone other than the songwriter or his estate can even own the songwriting royalties.

Pretty sure the Music World is littered with lots of songwriters who never made money on their own tunes that became huge hits. Because they sold off the rights.

-t

Both Paul and especially Ringo were very vocal about how good the 5.1 surround mix brought out the instruments detail that for years was buried in the 2 channel mixes.
That's what always stands out to me, and not just with "Love". There's all kinds of stuff in, for example, the Grateful Dead DVD-A's that are lost in two-channel.

I have the feeling that George and Giles Martin have many Beatles tunes remixed in the can in 5.1 Surround sound. Bet most of,if not all of, Abbey Road, Sgt.Pepppers, White Album, Let It Be,and Revelvor are in 5.1. They did 5.1 for Yellow Submarine DVD and Beatles Anthology DVDs.
You'd think they'd have had to do much of the work just getting the stuff ready to see what they had to work with for "Love".

Pretty sure the Music World is littered with lots of songwriters who never made money on their own tunes that became huge hits.

You should read about the copyright to the biggest song of all time...."Happy Birthday to You (http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.asp)".

All of Love is good, but to my ears, the tracks from Abbey Road are just astounding; definetly a cut above the rest. Well....maybe Revolution is up there too.

If they gave me a DVD-A 5.1 mix of all of Abbey Road, at the same level of quality as found on Love, I may never again leave the house!

BGL

Beatles Do Vegas.... Mixed feelings from that interview. one long advertisement. for Circ Soleil. Besides Larry King's usual dumb questions, Paul and Yoko were boring with trite answers to even triter? Beatles questions. If Larry was a Beatle fan...ooh, scary thought. Ringo and George's widow were listenable. Yoko was never a Beatle's fan, it was embarassing hearing her promote and act interested in a show that features re-recorded Beatle songs. I'd rather hear her sing!

Why do they care to promote this show?? It makes no sense to me. It doesn't need promoting. I'm a huge Beatles fan but really, it was crass and commercial.

The ONLY good thing was the cleaned up video pieces they showed of the Beatles. Even Ringo mentioned how cool the video pieces were.
Why aren't the Beatle Videos remastered and for sale??? What is the issue????
they have Never been released officially, only bootleg dups.

They are ruining the Beatles. I don't need yoko to tell me how good the Beatles were. and Paul needs to retire, he has already diluted the brand enough.

This summer is the 30 year anniversary of Sgt Pepper, do something special and commercial for that, not a circus show in Vegas.

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This summer is the 30 year anniversary of Sgt Pepper, do something special and commercial for that, not a circus show in Vegas.

You might want to check the battery on your calculator ;)

that would be 40 years hard to believe.

After 40 years of Peepers, we have 40 year mono and stereo vinyl (LP) and 20 year old stereo CD. Labels were still trying to CD remastering right in 67. I would love to see a DVD-A of 24/96 mono and stereo remaster and new 5.1 24/96 5.1 remix of Sgt. Peppers.

meant 1987 for CD mastering.

All of Love is good, but to my ears, the tracks from Abbey Road are just astounding; definetly a cut above the rest. Well....maybe Revolution is up there too.

If they gave me a DVD-A 5.1 mix of all of Abbey Road, at the same level of quality as found on Love, I may never again leave the house!

BGL


My first and favorite. Yes, that would be something special.

Pretty sure the Music World is littered with lots of songwriters who never made money on their own tunes that became huge hits. Because they sold off the rights.

-t

Have you ever wondered why every Christmas, you here endless renditions of the Nutcracker suite? It's because no one owns the rights to it, so it can be used freely.

one long advertisement. for Circ Soleil. Besides Larry King's usual dumb questions, Paul and Yoko were boring with trite answers to even triter? Beatles questions. If Larry was a Beatle fan...ooh, scary thought. Ringo and George's widow were listenable. Yoko was never a Beatle's fan, it was embarassing hearing her promote and act interested in a show that features re-recorded Beatle songs. I'd rather hear her sing!if this interview was an advertisement it was an ad for the "Love" album, which is just fine. You notice everytime Larry segued to a commercial, or upon returning from a commercial, the "Love" graphics and music were run (not Circ footage), it was nicely done.

I thought everyone was mostly honest in their responses to Larry's question- no mystery or conspiracy.

It was explained that George and Circ founder were good friends.

Moreover it's great to hear someone like George (and Paul) speak specifically about the merits of 5.1 and how it "enhances" the music performance for them (the original creators and performers of the music). It can have a large affect, or influence, and can only be a positive thing for future hi-rez multi-channel recordings.

Amen to that. How very cool that they are into 5.1 lossless, and why would they not be, being merely the greatest show on earth ever and now seeing what technology can do with their material? I don't have cable or satellite and so did not see the interviews, but what is being said here is really exciting. I just cannot believe that with Dolby True HD and DTS HD MasterAudio coming in players and receivers that we are doomed to compressed junk formats like MP3. They didn't stay with rolling the window down in cars. They went with AC when it became practical.
Moreover it's great to hear someone like George (and Paul) speak specifically about the merits of 5.1 and how it "enhances" the music performance for them (the original creators and performers of the music). It can have a large affect, or influence, and can only be a positive thing for future hi-rez multi-channel recordings.

Beatles like 5.1 surround mixes
And would you have expected them to say they disliked them?

I agree with gigaguy. It was an infomercial.



Moreover it's great to hear someone like George (and Paul) speak specifically about the merits of 5.1 and how it "enhances" the music performance for them (the original creators and performers of the music).
I've never heard any musicians publically express that they disliked 5.1 or didn't understand the possibilities of the 5.1 format.




It can have a large affect, or influence, and can only be a positive thing for future hi-rez multi-channel recordings.
Don't hold your breath. Heavyweights that DO still have some influence, such as Steely Dan and Neil Young (and even Pink Floyd, to some degree), have tried to jumpstart these formats from the beginning.

meant 1987 for CD mastering.
What's amazing is that, whenever that last remastering was done, it still sounds pretty darn good.

Heavyweights that DO still have some influence, such as Steely Dan and Neil Young (and even Pink Floyd, to some degree), have tried to jumpstart these formats from the beginning.yeah, but I don't think there has ever been a form, such as this special-edition of Larry King "LIVE", where [major] music performers on this level have specifically commented on multi-channel surround, or high-resolution, capabilities. I've seen multiple magazine interviews (with Steely Dan, for example), but never on any [major] television format.

yeah, but I don't think there has ever been a form, such as this special-edition of Larry King "LIVE", where [major] music performers on this level have specifically commented on multi-channel surround, or high-resolution, capabilities. I've seen multiple magazine interviews (with Steely Dan, for example), but never on any [major] television format.
And what impact do you think some sell-out musicians being interviewed by Larry King could possibly have? It's just Larry King "LIVE", for God's sake, a show which caters to the "lowest common denominator" television viewer. :rolleyes:

And what impact do you think some sell-out musicians being interviewed by Larry King could possibly have?who knows........but you seem to know 100% sure it will have zero effect.


It's just Larry King "LIVE", for God's sake, a show which caters to the "lowest common denominator" television vieweroh, okay. I guess you represent the highest common denominator :rolleyes:

It's a TV interview show with a significant size viewing audience..............

who knows........but you seem to know 100% sure it will have zero effect.

oh, okay. I guess you represent the highest common denominator :rolleyes:

It's a TV interview show with a significant size viewing audience..............
The truth hurts.

You can all but "stick a fork in" the hirez formats.

You can all but "stick a fork in" the hirez formats.
I don't think they will completely go away, they will evolve into newer formats ("HD", etc.,...). However, I think only the quantites will vary- specific artist's and genre's.

I wonder how many master multi-track stems they cleaned up while doing the Love album? Do you suppose it was an excuse to sift through a lot, if not all the masters and digitize them?

I'd LOVE to hear more than Love in 5.1... hell make them all 5.1! There's soooo much going on in most of their songs that multi-channel would do them justice besides giving them a spit 'n' polish job.

Dan

i thought i read that the catalog was going to be remastered but did not mention stereo
or multichannel.

I'd LOVE to hear more than Love in 5.1... hell make them all 5.1!exactly! It's obvious the publishing rights are most likely caught up in legal constraints. Otherwise I would bet most all their popular titles would have already been re-mastered to hi-rez multi-channel product a few years back (no question).

One of my friends is a lighting crew member on Love. He was there from the start. He says they built a complete studio in the Mirage complete with vault that has been guarded 24/7 since they came in. Giles has spent alot of time there. Paul has made several trips himself.AS he understands it from the sound crew there is a complete master catalog in the vault. Maybe there is a remix ongoing???The security during the building of the show was so tight that no one could come in with cell phones, any sort of bag, even purses had to be left in a locker outside the build area unless they were the clear plastic kind. Metal detectors were installed as well.

He says they built a complete studio in the Mirage complete with vault that has been guarded 24/7 since they came inwhat I don't understand is why they would need to have a stdio there (at the Mirage)? When they have studio's everywhere (London, L.A., New York, etc.,...).

what I don't understand is why they would need to have a stdio there (at the Mirage)? When they have studio's everywhere (London, L.A., New York, etc.,...).
Probably to make changes for the show "on the fly".

Probably to make changes for the show "on the fly".
yes, most likely. All show related.

what I don't understand is why they would need to have a stdio there (at the Mirage)? When they have studio's everywhere (London, L.A., New York, etc.,...).

Because first of all they were able to make mixes during preproduction to make changes to etc.. Second as a ongoing show that sometimes will have new parts to an act or others edited out. Yes they could do some work in another city and FTP it in but it really does save alot of time and headaches by being right there.

At the show I am on at the strip we have a full live band yet we still have a full protools studio setup and make changes almost daily it would seem sometimes.

yes, most likely. All show related.

true mostly as we know show related BUT Giles has spent alot of extra time there as well, so maybe something is coming out in the near future.

Giles has spent alot of extra time there as well, so maybe something is coming out in the near future.he's most likely working on show-related mixes. Don't think he would have anything to do with any new material to be released to the commercial market (related to Beatles music).