View Full Version : Transformers!! - saw it , this will be THE DISC
oasis13 06-28-07, 06:27 PM Hi All,
You know how nNeo from the Matrix was THE ONE.
Saw Transformers here in Australia last night and Holy C**P, awesome.
The movie, picture, sound was incredible. Coolest thing I have seen in a long, long time. Can't remember the last time I heard applause at the cinema after a film.
The HD version will be THE DISC, this year or any other year.
I mean, well, just wait till you see it.
It is a must see at the cinmea and then, if it comes out with Dolby TrueHD, start reinforcing your foundations on your house.
Off to see it again tonight!!!......man.......
Paul Cordingley 06-28-07, 06:50 PM Hi and welcome to the forum :)
Hmmmm ... me thinks I might have to see this on the big screen ... though I generally only reserve that for a new "Star Wars" or such like these days ...
Paulidan 06-28-07, 06:56 PM I don't have any experience with the property (was too old for it in the 80s) but I don't doubt that this will become the High def equivilent of what the Matrix was to the adoption of dvd.
Interesting that it will be across both formats (though if Paramount wanted to throw HD DVD another bone, they would release on this format first, and then on Bd after the holidays).
For the consumer that decides he finally has to buy into HD opticals, the choice will then be how much is the buy in (player price), and what else does the format offer that the other doesn't.
HD DVD by that time will have Heroes and BSG and Star Trek- three huge cult appeal properties with a demographic that dovetails nicely with Transformers.
On the other hand, those same customers will probably already own those series season sets on DVDs that they paid a lot for and are not very enthusiastic bout upgrading anytime soon (espeically Heroes which will have come out a couple months earlier than the traditional holiday buying season).
On the other side, you have all the other summer blockbusters which will be hitting home video fresh.
I think the advantage is sadly still with Bd because of the timing involved with that last point- unless HD DVD players are consistently below $300 ($250 would be even better) and season 3 of BSG hits day and date in the fall.
oasis13 06-28-07, 07:02 PM I don't know wether or not this will convert people to HD, but I do know that it will be THE reference disc for DVD, or HD sound. Dolby TrueHD is a MUST for this one.
It is quite simply the best sounding movie I have ever seen at the cinmea. A must see on the big screen.
I can't wait for the HD DVD to be released on 12/4
Ian_Currie 06-28-07, 07:10 PM Is this not a children's flick? I'm confused...
HorrorScope 06-28-07, 07:10 PM I went to a concert last night myself. Best concert ever! lol
Can next week get here any faster????
kowhite 06-28-07, 07:15 PM Is this not a children's flick? I'm confused...
It's not a kid's movie...certainly it's a movie lots of kids will like, but it's not like it's specifically aimed at kids or anything. I mean, it is a Michael Bay movie. Maybe a film aimed at people who wish they were still kids.
I saw this a few days ago at the Adelaide Premiere (here in Australia) and it was fu*king awesome. Definetly will see again. Lot of action, humour. Eye candy galore. Especially hearing Optimus Primes voice which is the same guy (Peter Cullen) that did prime for the cartoon in the 80's. Too cool. My most enjoyed movie this year. I kept thinking I can't wait to own this on HD and play it in my theater as the sound rocked. I am going again this Satuday night night to see it again.
I guess you can see I liked it :)
I think this will be the disk that sells hd/blu during the holidays like what matrix did for dvds.
IMO it's going to do better (HD disc sales wise) than Casino Royale.
evolver 06-28-07, 07:33 PM Here's a trailer (possible spoilers? I haven't seen it, so I don't know):
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=37083755&embedded=yes&t=mov&br=2700&s=2022215417&start=0&end=&afr=1&nodeid=2737014&d=152&tz=&pg=MTY1MDYzMTU3MzQ2NGM5ZG&authid=&sl=152&so=%252Fsmg2007%252FTransformers%252Ftrailer4%2528HD%2529&tcode=&sdm=web&pt=rd
Just keep Michael Bay away from the historical stuff, mmmkay?
rover2002 06-28-07, 08:38 PM I don't have any experience with the property (was too old for it in the 80s) but I don't doubt that this will become the High def equivilent of what the Matrix was to the adoption of dvd.
Interesting that it will be across both formats (though if Paramount wanted to throw HD DVD another bone, they would release on this format first, and then on Bd after the holidays).
For the consumer that decides he finally has to buy into HD opticals, the choice will then be how much is the buy in (player price), and what else does the format offer that the other doesn't.
HD DVD by that time will have Heroes and BSG and Star Trek- three huge cult appeal properties with a demographic that dovetails nicely with Transformers.
On the other hand, those same customers will probably already own those series season sets on DVDs that they paid a lot for and are not very enthusiastic bout upgrading anytime soon (espeically Heroes which will have come out a couple months earlier than the traditional holiday buying season).
On the other side, you have all the other summer blockbusters which will be hitting home video fresh.
I think the advantage is sadly still with Bd because of the timing involved with that last point- unless HD DVD players are consistently below $300 ($250 would be even better) and season 3 of BSG hits day and date in the fall.
I thought 'Heros' was day & date with the DVD release no?
5thDanMaster 06-28-07, 08:41 PM Hi All,
You know how nNeo from the Matrix was THE ONE.
Saw Transformers here in Australia last night and Holy C**P, awesome.
The movie, picture, sound was incredible. Coolest thing I have seen in a long, long time. Can't remember the last time I heard applause at the cinema after a film.
The HD version will be THE DISC, this year or any other year.
I mean, well, just wait till you see it.
It is a must see at the cinmea and then, if it comes out with Dolby TrueHD, start reinforcing your foundations on your house.
Off to see it again tonight!!!......man.......
Thanks for the info, I am going to see this one .
BassTek 06-28-07, 08:42 PM I can't wait for this movie, thanks for sharing your mini review!
ricwhite 06-28-07, 09:08 PM I watched the 1080P trailer and it had very good PQ and sound which gives me a lot of hope that this will translate very well to HD DVD. From what I am reading, this could be one of the reference "action" flicks for high def format. Things are looking very good for this.
I rarely watch movies in the theater anymore, but this is one that I will actually leave home and go INTO a theater to watch. I'll try to ignore the projector flicker, sticky floors, cell phones, poorly adjusted sound, and the advertisements.
Favelle 06-28-07, 09:13 PM I watched the 1080P trailer and it had very good PQ and sound which gives me a lot of hope that this will translate very well to HD DVD.
Not to mention that the audio was under 200kbps on the 1080p trailer. Imagine TrueHD? CRAZY!!!
jerseydiplomat 06-28-07, 09:28 PM i'm hoping this will be good i grew up on the transformers and owned so many of them as a kid
one question though does megatron transform into a gun
hmurchison 06-28-07, 09:31 PM I'm trying to get the lady to go see this with me on July 4th at the Seattle Cinerama (70mm screen)
Hell the Transformers are the stuff I grew up with..sorta. I gotta check it out.
i'm hoping this will be good i grew up on the transformers and owned so many of them as a kid
one question though does megatron transform into a gun
I believe megatron transfomers into a tank.
jerseydiplomat 06-28-07, 09:38 PM I believe megatron transfomers into a tank.
damnit i had hoped this wasn't true i can deal with a lot of changes in movies but megatron not transforming into a gun is travesty. i understand why they did it but i don't like it ahhh i'll see it anyway
IMO it's going to do better (HD disc sales wise) than Casino Royale.
I did not know you where a Hddvd supporter?
Djoel
CowboysGuy1874 06-28-07, 10:01 PM I really hate Michael Bay, but if the reviews are decent, I'll see it.
HPforMe 06-28-07, 10:21 PM Your point is well taken. This will be THE NEWEST disk which should have great appeal.
egcarter 06-28-07, 10:27 PM ILM's work on TRANSFORMERS does raise CGI to a new level...
Bud-man 06-28-07, 10:53 PM I just got back from a free screening of this and all i can say is AWESOME!!
I never felt bass and heard sound before like this movie, i dont go to movies much and i thought my home theater kick's ass....No Way!!
A MUST see in a good theater, Imax would of been AWESOME!
This will probably be a Xmas release on disc.
oasis13 06-28-07, 10:55 PM Put it this way, if this is not THE REFERENCE disc, it is a monumental stuff up by the studio.
I have heard every big blockbuster at the cinmeas in the last 10 yrs, and this blows every one of them away, by a long way. Even when they are cars they sound friggin awesome.
I would be surprised if anyone thinks the action sequences (which are almost non-stop) aren't the best they have seen or heard at the movies.
It is that good......
Megalith 06-28-07, 10:59 PM Megatron transforms into an alien jet.
Dang you guys. I'm gonna have to go see this on the big screen.
maingon 06-28-07, 11:23 PM I watched the 1080P trailer and it had very good PQ and sound which gives me a lot of hope that this will translate very well to HD DVD. From what I am reading, this could be one of the reference "action" flicks for high def format. Things are looking very good for this.
I rarely watch movies in the theater anymore, but this is one that I will actually leave home and go INTO a theater to watch. I'll try to ignore the projector flicker, sticky floors, cell phones, poorly adjusted sound, and the advertisements.
Projector flick bugs you? once a movie starts theres no way you could hear that, Plus i dont know if it is because all the screens near me are Digital, I havent heard that in a while, Never have sticky floors unless you are seeing a kids movie, you might get it, cell phones rare, never poorly adjusted sound here or really advertisments unless you get there really early. Other then that its just trailers which I love.
I cant wait to see this flick, it looks so freaking amazing. the action and effects look awesome. . I love Micheal Bay I think hes one of the greatest action directors, he does action like no other and Cant wait to see what he did with this.
maingon 06-28-07, 11:24 PM Is this not a children's flick? I'm confused...
a kids flick? where have you been for the last few months or especially the past week. The ads been everywhere, it looks amazing. Kids might like it because its got robots, but its not a little kids flick.
Axiom Divine 06-28-07, 11:46 PM Megatron transforms into an alien jet.
I think that's ok since I had always found it weird that he was a giant gun that could shrink and be used by the decepticons. An alien jet is much more believable. :p
jerseydiplomat 06-29-07, 12:06 AM I think that's ok since I had always found it weird that he was a giant gun that could shrink and be used by the decepticons. An alien jet is much more believable. :p
i don't know i always loved him transforming into a gun but the size thing is weird. why would they make him a jet or plane when they have star scream i guess he's not in it though. i would love to see shockwave and energon cubes in the movie too but that's probably asking too much. i might to watch the cartoon movie this week with one of the most outdated sountracks ever
Paulidan 06-29-07, 12:30 AM I thought 'Heros' was day & date with the DVD release no?
it is- and that might be the problem. Rabid fans of the show may NOT put off a purchase of it on sd if they don't already own an HD player- and if the HD players aren't discounted by then they won't pick one up.
In that case, it will be a lost HD sale a few months later if they do pick one up closer to Christmas -when Transformers hits (and when they should be consistently on sale or have a new lower msrp).
so the way I see it, timing might just be a little off and screw up everything.
If the third season of BSG were to hit before Transformers, but close to it in November, That might be a good one-two punch.
Another thing to watch for is if Blade Runner will come out on HDDVD first.
I would love to see HD DVD experience a perfect storm of lowered msrps and 4 or 5 strong exclsuive (even if a couple are only temporary) cult appeal titles. If that happend, I think this holiday season could give the format a sustainable base to keep it chugging along right beside Blu-ray indefinitely.
evolver 06-29-07, 12:37 AM Another thing to watch for is if Blade Runner will come out on HDDVD first.
I wouldn't count on it, but it's Warners, so maybe we'll see HD DVD exclusive content (yes, even that late in the year). After all, BD Live is Profile 2.0. Profile 1.1 is what becomes mandatory in October, and Warners seems to be on a roll with their online interactivty features.
Favelle 06-29-07, 03:08 AM why would they make him a jet or plane when they have star scream i guess he's not in it though.
Starscream is in it. Charles Adler voices him. Soundwave and his original voice would have been the best. But only if those gay cassettes weren't in it.
Bud-man 06-29-07, 06:09 AM As talking about Flicker at the beginning of the movie the screen had a slight flicker which to me was annoying, and no where near the sharpness of a good HD-DVD on my 92" screen.
Reason i dont go to theaters, cramped seats, even thou they were high back with foldable cupholders, i know about sticky floors as the 99 cent theaters had them.
The movie itself is basically corny, farfetched plot and some unreal action.
The kid that get's bumblebee, start's as a old beat early 70's Camaro, his soon to be girlfriend is real hot, they emphasize her body and waist alot in the beggining, there's alot of 1 line corny humor that get's the theater laughing alot, there was a loud round of applause after and more cut scene humor in the end credit's.
The scenes when they show the transformers in action are very fast moving, if you blink or turn your head for a second you miss alot, the scenes where very jumpy as to make the transformation more realistic, they dont zoom in 1 scene for more than a second or 2 to get a look at how well the graphic's look
Did the movie do anything for me?, Not really, i didnt leave the theater thinking Wow this was great, but my 14 yr old son sure did!
alexg75 06-29-07, 06:13 AM I just came back from a screening of TRANSFORMERS at the Paramount Pictures Theater.My wife saw it a few weeks back and she loved it! So she was able to get me and my friend in for tonight's screening and man,we had a BLAST!
I am a fan of Bay's films-and I'm not ashamed of saying that I've seen all of his films and loved them all.The guy knows how to entertain and his films are all hyper and over-the-top,that's his style and he makes no apology for it.I think TF's is one of his best,right next to THE ROCK.
The crowd at this screening was pumped for the movie and we all were not disappointed,there was applause throughout the film and when the end credits came up the majority of the crowed stayed all the way through,WOW!
This movie really delivers BIG TIME! It starts off fast and intense and keeps going from there,for my taste it was a bit too much as the action at the end was really non-stop,no ********! I love Action movies and trust me this is the action film of the year!
The Cast is uniformly Great across the board with Shia LaBeouff really,really turning in a star-making performance.
The Robots are all awesome with my favorites being Prime,Bumble Bee and Scorpinok.
The Visual Effects are truly among the best that I have seen to date,certainly very Oscar worthy.
There is a bit of cheese here and there but not enough to spoil the movie at all.
There is a lot of humor in the movie and it all works,which is very surprising!
Action is indeed awesome and as I mentioned the finale is overload........
Yes the sound design and mix are top-notch,also very oscar worthy.The sound mix is loud as is all of Bay's films but the amount of detail and balance is what stands out.My ears are still ringing!!!
The cimematography is solid with a very gritty look in the action scenes and there is some grain here and there,but it is all intentional.
That being said I will be going back to see it again at THE CINERAMA DOME and that's a big compliment from me,but I can't wait to have it on disc to rock my theater!
evolver 06-29-07, 03:20 PM That being said I will be going back to see it again at THE CINERAMA DOME [...]
Lucky!
I wish ArcLight Cinemas would start a chain. Seriously.
ricwhite 06-29-07, 04:13 PM Projector flick bugs you? once a movie starts theres no way you could hear that.
I was not talking about the sound. I was talking about the image flicker on the screen. With every movie I see in the theater now, I notice the image flickering like a dull strobe light. It drives me crazy. I MUCH prefer my home theater with a good HD DVD print for both image and sound. Not to mention the comforts. I find the retail theaters lacking immensely.
However, there are some movies that just HAVE to be seen on the large screen in a theater with a LOT of people. Transformers sounds like one of them. This will be the FIRST movie I see this year in a theater. I might also go see the Harry Potter movie since my son wants to. Those are the only two on my list for this year so far. All other movies I just enjoy in my home theater.
I just watched the 1080P trailers. This indeed looks very, very good.
I was not talking about the sound. I was talking about the image flicker on the screen. With every movie I see in the theater now, I notice the image flickering like a dull strobe light. It drives me crazy. I MUCH prefer my home theater with a good HD DVD print for both image and sound. Not to mention the comforts. I find the retail theaters lacking immensely.
However, there are some movies that just HAVE to be seen on the large screen in a theater with a LOT of people. Transformers sounds like one of them. This will be the FIRST movie I see this year in a theater. I might also go see the Harry Potter movie since my son wants to. Those are the only two on my list for this year so far. All other movies I just enjoy in my home theater.
I dont know about utah but here in the DC area, many of the theaters have upgrade digital projectors. MOvies look fantastic.
A few theaters in my area now have DLP projection (great picture IMO). Very nice and modern theaters as well.
http://www.ravemotionpictures.com
BTW, I cannot wait to see this movie. Tuesday can't get here soon enough!
BZiggyZ 06-29-07, 05:13 PM I caught a screening yesterday. I can’t remember the last time I’ve been this pumped going into, and coming out of a movie. The action starts almost immediately and rarely lets up. Everything’s been pushed to 11. More sheer destruction than I think I’ve ever seen in a movie. Between the eye candy robot visuals and the spectacular sound, this is as intense and visceral a movie experience as you’ll ever see. It was like a theme park ride with the crowd screaming, ducking, pumping fists. I’m going again Monday night and probably July 4th too. It’s that good. It will be reference HD material if there ever was any.
SamwisetheBrave 06-29-07, 06:13 PM Hell the Transformers are the stuff I grew up with..sorta. I gotta check it out.
Me, too! Oh, wait... No, actually (I'm OLD)! :(
Already have tickets pre-ordered for the 3rd, here...
:) This is the movie i have waited well over 20 years to see.
Woot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As far as AQ goes, its Armageddon x10.
Good God, its freaking loud!
roachxp 07-01-07, 04:18 PM I read that 12/4/07 is the release on HDDVD I've only seen preorders in Europe.
darinp2 07-02-07, 12:20 AM I haven't seen this one, but I looked back at the box office numbers for Independence Day in the US (since I think that could end up being a good comparison as far as popularity) and it made over $300 million at the US box office in 1996. It wouldn't shock me if Transformers gets to the $400 million neighborhood in the US. I'm sure it won't be the must have disc for everybody, but probably will be for a big portion of the people into HD movies.
--Darin
RAVEN56706 07-02-07, 07:59 AM i caught a screening of it and plan on seeing it again tomorrow night... i have to tell you... the movie cost 150 mil to make.... it looks like 300 mil movie.... they saved alot of money but the special effects are top notch... this might be the surprise movie of the summer
Topweasel 07-02-07, 10:45 AM i caught a screening of it and plan on seeing it again tomorrow night... i have to tell you... the movie cost 150 mil to make.... it looks like 300 mil movie.... they saved alot of money but the special effects are top notch... this might be the surprise movie of the summer
The rise in Movie costs is getting really really retarded. I think 300 at 60 mil and transformers at 150 mil will teach a lot of studios a lesson. 250 for Superman, 300 for PotC 3, 175 for Evan almighty, are all retarded amounts of money to spend on any movie. I think part of the savings comes from Spielberg Producing this, JP1 and JP2 cost 65 and 75 mil respectively when movies where costing 100 and more left and right and when Titanic was the first movie to break 200 mil in costs.
evolver 07-02-07, 11:17 AM Correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe the (relatively) smaller budget was at least partially due to a lack of big name stars? Basically, the Transformers are the stars of this film, no?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe the (relatively) smaller budget was at least partially due to a lack of big name stars? Basically, the Transformers are the stars of this film, no?True, but they still have to pay the voice talent, which was far from "bottom of the barrel"
You have Peter Cullen returning for Optimus (THANK GOD!) and Huge Weaving as Megatron. Also more special effects than normal considering all of your main characters (outside of a handful of humans) are pure CG when not in vehicle form (and some even when they are).
Personally, I was originally put off by it. I'm not a Bay hater like some, I see the purpose his movies serve, and at the right time, I really enjoy them. However I didn't like the robot design direction he was going for. It was just horrible aesthetic overall and bad character design as a whole. Good character design lends itself to immediate recognition by a silhouette. What do you get from these silhouettes? I feeling to avoid random cacti. See The Incredibles (or really any Pixar movie) for a good example of proper character design. OK, off this tangent... I really don't like the robot designs even now, and Optimus as a long nose still bothers me, but between the reviews and scenes I've seen thus far via trailers, I'm really geared up for it and will definitely see it this week. It's Michael Bay, with giant robots... you know exactly what you're getting before you even walk in. Camera sweeps, giant robots, huge explosions - many, if not all, in slow motion, good looking women, and a pretty hefty helping of product placement and cheese factor.
I'm OK with that :D
Quite a few people on Ars have been to early screenings and love it, so I'm pretty hopeful now.
maingon 07-02-07, 12:34 PM A few theaters in my area now have DLP projection (great picture IMO). Very nice and modern theaters as well.
http://www.ravemotionpictures.com
BTW, I cannot wait to see this movie. Tuesday can't get here soon enough!
Me too, I am hoping to see it tonight. We had one theater with on DLP screen, but in May all the thaeaters near me switched completely over to Digital screens.
CowboysGuy1874 07-03-07, 12:24 AM It will certainly look great in high-definition. That said...
Tranformers was awful. Terrible. Mind-numbingly stupid. An embarrassment for Spielberg.
Michael Bay was asked to direct a fairly stupid little flick about giant robot aliens fighting other giant robot aliens on Earth, and he somehow managed to make the actual film dumber than the plot would indicate.
I hated this film. I did not have any fun. It wasn't any good. The action was fine and dandy the first time I saw it, but Bay's goddamn shaky camera kept me largely uninterested during the entire thing. The script is awful. The dialogue is awful. The two leads have good chemistry, and do good jobs in their own right, but the material is so bad that I just couldn't care for them.
I know what you're thinking. You're thinking that I needed to leave my brain at the door and simply enjoy the ride. I would have loved to. My suspension of disbelief often goes a long way, but this film took that line and crossed it at full speed. Even by Michael Bay standards, it is terrible.
The movie referenced Bay's other film Armageddon. That alone means that it is awful.
Thank God I'm not a Transformer nerd, or else I'd be really pissed off.
.5 stars out of 4
mngmikes 07-03-07, 12:30 AM yeah i wasn't planning on watching this one, but my friends took me to a 8pm showing tonight and i would have to say it honestly wasn't as bad as i thought it was going to be. it will look great on hddvd. and they left the end for a make of a sequel.
i thought hugo weaving was going to be an odd match as the voice of megatron but he did a really good job
overall pretty impressed
Axiom Divine 07-03-07, 12:32 AM It will certainly look great in high-definition. That said...
Tranformers was awful. Terrible. Mind-numbingly stupid. An embarrassment for Spielberg.
Michael Bay was asked to direct a fairly stupid little flick about giant robot aliens fighting other giant robot aliens on Earth, and he somehow managed to make the actual film dumber than the plot would indicate.
I hated this film. I did not have any fun. It wasn't any good. The action was fine and dandy the first time I saw it, but Bay's goddamn shaky camera kept me largely uninterested during the entire thing. The script is awful. The dialogue is awful. The two leads have good chemistry, and do good jobs in their own right, but the material is so bad that I just couldn't care for them.
I know what you're thinking. You're thinking that I needed to leave my brain at the door and simply enjoy the ride. I would have loved to. My suspension of disbelief often goes a long way, but this film took that line and crossed it at full speed. Even by Michael Bay standards, it is terrible.
The movie referenced Bay's other film Armageddon. That alone means that it is awful.
Thank God I'm not a Transformer nerd, or else I'd be really pissed off.
.5 stars out of 4
NOOOOOO!!!! I refuse to believe it! Will post after my viewing tomorrow night...
CowboysGuy1874 07-03-07, 12:34 AM NOOOOOO!!!! I refuse to believe it! Will post after my viewing tomorrow night...
Audience seemed to enjoy it. The film just seemed to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I couldn't stand it at all. Hope you find some good in it. I couldn't.
halfsane 07-03-07, 12:43 AM just got back from seeing this at the imax, all i can say is wow, micheal bay did not disappoint!
and i had my doubts cannot wait to buy this on HD! :)
mngmikes 07-03-07, 12:44 AM cowboys if my memory serves me right and i just saw the movie not even 3 hours ago the only time the camera gets shaky is during the hard core fight scenes which i think is great because it makes you tense or more believable of being there... if you didn't enjoy the film i'm sorry. But this was a pretty good movie. if you watched the old cartoons though it was full of corny heroic type lines this movie i think does it's best to give homage to something that we grew up on
to add on the megatron being a plane. if you notice every transformer when they hit earth they scan something and that is what they become. megatron never scans anything so the alien plane is probably his original form and the form he had before coming to earth and being frozen. that's just my 2 cents on it
sharkshark 07-03-07, 12:51 AM ...this is one of the worst films ever made, and that's saying something considering this is the guy who directed a film where the Americans "won" Pearl Harbour...
I so, so wanted to like it, I gave it every chance, but the man simply cannot direct a film. Extreme closeups will work better at home then they will on the giant screen, there is little but swooshing, blurred-out megaspeed action and some of the most contrived and innane plot points I've seen in decades. Abysmal in every way. Who knew that Die Hard would be the thinking man's action flick for the summer?
If this forum can do one good thing, avoid seeing it on the big screen, it'll look better at home, and you can FF through all the stuff that literally will make you dumber-er for watching it...
Let's put it this way: Voight's worst film. THAT is saying something... (Anaconda in HD, anyone? or how about THIS (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0270846/) little gem?)
CowboysGuy1874 07-03-07, 12:51 AM cowboys if my memory serves me right and i just saw the movie not even 3 hours ago the only time the camera gets shaky is during the hard core fight scenes which i think is great because it makes you tense or more believable of being there... if you didn't enjoy the film i'm sorry. But this was a pretty good movie. if you watched the old cartoons though it was full of corny heroic type lines this movie i think does it's best to give homage to something that we grew up on
to add on the megatron being a plane. if you notice every transformer when they hit earth they scan something and that is what they become. megatron never scans anything so the alien plane is probably his original form and the form he had before coming to earth and being frozen. that's just my 2 cents on it
I'm not a Transformers fan in the slightest. My only exposure to the property is whenever it is mentioned in Clerks II.
I just hate Michael Bay's style of filmmaking. It's hard to care about action when none of the characters are worth it. Each of his films have this problem.
cnickersonjr 07-03-07, 12:53 AM TRANSFORMERS movie clips (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808716430/trailer)
mngmikes 07-03-07, 12:56 AM that is true if you never watched it as a child you may not enjoy it as much. but watching things happen in the film that was part of the old cartoon it was pretty cool. like bumblebee having to speak through his radio, same thing happen in the cartoons. just stuff like that i caught on to which was pretty cool since it is something i grew up on
I saw this last week with my wife and we both absolutely loved it. We have booked tickets to watch it again tomorrow night. We both have fond memories of the cartoons in the 80's as well as having played with the toys as kids, so it was almost guaranteed we were going to like it anyways. Great picture, awesome sound, perfect cast, wicked effects, sprinkle of cheese (not a block, like you'd usually get). It was great entertainment, and took me away from my world for an hour or two.
e_professor 07-03-07, 01:06 AM If I recall my childhood cartoons correctly, Transformers the original cartoons didn't really have much of a backstory or great mythology like star wars or LOTR. Its suppose to be fun (transforming) and exciting and totally no great plot.
One can't go into this movie and expect Star Wars with all the midichlorian stuff from a galaxy far, far away.
Audiences will love it because they may have been largely disappointed with the other summer movies like POTC 3 (too long, excessive visual effects), Spider-man 3 (messy, and lacks substance) and Rise of Silver Surfer (draggy and boring even for 1.5 hours). This Transformers movie becomes somewhat refreshing.
I wouldn't say it is a great movie but at least it didn't disappoint me as much as the POTC, Spider-man and Fantastic four sequels did. Definitely a must-get on HD whether HD DVD or BD.
sharkshark 07-03-07, 01:15 AM Here's what I wanted - robots, fighting, transforming, fighting some more, and then blowing stuff up.
What I got was a buddy flick with Rachael Tayolor and Anthony Anderson, references to the 40 Year Old Virgin (!), a "Parents Just Don't Understand" after school special, masturbation jokes, "Oops, my bad" from Prime (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) - should I go on?
This makes The Rock look like The Great Escape, Armageddon like 2001. This is simply, unequivocally, awful.
But, you know, make up your own mind...:)
gte747e 07-03-07, 01:18 AM Yes I definetely wish movies would switch more to the DLP. It is a huge difference. My last horrible movie experience was taking kids to see Surf's Up (at a non-DLP theater)
4 large vertical green and black lines on the screen the entire movie
Tons of people going in and out of the theatre.
If it was a dollar theater, maybe I could understand...but not the largest theater in the area. It was horrible (and don't get me started on the movie itself). LOL
e_professor 07-03-07, 01:20 AM Here's what I wanted - robots, fighting, transforming, fighting some more, and then blowing stuff up.
What I got was a buddy flick with Rachael Tayolor and Anthony Anderson, references to the 40 Year Old Virgin (!), a "Parents Just Don't Understand" after school special, masturbation jokes, "Oops, my bad" from Prime (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) - should I go on?
This makes The Rock look like The Great Escape, Armageddon like 2001. This is simply, unequivocally, awful.
But, you know, make up your own mind...:)
Yes, I know, but this is only the first (introductory) movie for the entire franchise, they have to bear in mind that there are non-fans and children/teens who are new to the series.
The sequels are likely to have more of what you want.
CowboysGuy1874 07-03-07, 01:23 AM The sequels are likely to have more of what you want.
If Michael Bay directs, then probably not.
Steve Tack 07-03-07, 02:29 AM Saw the flick tonight and I can't say I would recommend it to everyone. Overall I had an enjoyable enough time, but of lot of my enjoyment was getting caught up in how into it the audience was, rather than the movie itself.
A surprising number of scenes are played for laughs and a lot of that stuff *is* pretty funny. But I had some issues with the flick that I would guess fans of the original property would have an easier time dealing with:
- The "personality" of the Transformers themselves came across as, well, something you'd see in a kid's cartoon, not a summer popcorn movie. It's something that affects the tone pretty dramatically (it's not something you get from the trailers).
- The design of the Transformers to me looked like multi-colored plastic toys. I realize that's exactly how they started, but I was surprised they didn't try for a different look in a live action movie.
- It didn't help that I sat pretty close to the screen in one of those big screen theaters, but 90% of the action just looked like a bunch of zoomed-in blurry motion. I could barely tell what was happening at certain points.
- There wasn't enough of a narrative to keep things moving very well. Frankly I thought it kind of stalled more than once.
Basically, it's more cartoony than many cartoons. :) Still, I liked a lot of it. For those who can mentally regress into an eight year old (I can get down to about 10 and a half) or who are fans of the original, there's a lot to geek out over.
I'm just not sure it's going to appeal to a mainstream audience. I mean, I know plenty of people who would hate it.
Nics1246 07-03-07, 02:31 AM I just got back from watching it and I thought it was great. It did have a bit too much goofiness and over the top humor but it was no big deal. Overall, great popcorn flick. I can't wait for the HD DVD to come out.
To each there own I guess. Saying that I have now seen the film twice and will go again for a 3rd time. The movie just fu*king rocks. Best movie this year IMO.
jezzeaepi 07-03-07, 05:39 AM If you dont like to think at all this movie is for you. There is literally not a single thing redeaming about this movie other then the cgi. The plot is so full of holes, the charecters so over the top with cliches, with borderline racial undertones(the black transformer flashes gang signs, the mexican charecter only speaks spanish, the indian is an annoying customer service agent who wont be helpfull... come on...) that I found myself wanting to walk out, but alas I was not the driver.
Too each their own though. Perhaps if I was 7, or really wasted and it was an hour shorter, then it would have been fun.
I can't wait for this one in HD!
CallMeJean 07-03-07, 07:10 AM Here's what I wanted - robots, fighting, transforming, fighting some more, and then blowing stuff up.
What I got was a buddy flick with Rachael Tayolor and Anthony Anderson, references to the 40 Year Old Virgin (!), a "Parents Just Don't Understand" after school special, masturbation jokes, "Oops, my bad" from Prime (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) - should I go on?
This makes The Rock look like The Great Escape, Armageddon like 2001. This is simply, unequivocally, awful.
But, you know, make up your own mind...:)
Did you leave for the second half of the movie? robots, fighting, transforming, fighting some more, and then blowing stuff up is pretty much all that happened for the last hour. Fantastic summer flick if you ask me and all I kept thinking was, 'This movie will look/sound awesome in HD!'
wittangamo 07-03-07, 07:40 AM After carefully examining this thread, I've come to the conclusion that Transformers is going to be hugely popular with those who have no patience for capital letters and need no adjectives other than "awesome" and "retarded." You couldn't pay me enough to share a theater with people who would applaud this movie.
That said, I'll rent it on HD DVD, crank up the volume when the wife is out shopping, skip the comedy and character development and go straight to the scenes of robots tearing stuff apart.
vurbano 07-03-07, 07:41 AM If I hear "this will be THE disc" one more time Im gonna puke.
halfsane 07-03-07, 07:53 AM If I hear "this will be THE disc" one more time Im gonna puke.
what if you read it ?
BZiggyZ 07-03-07, 08:16 AM After carefully examining this thread, I've come to the conclusion that Transformers is going to be hugely popular with those who have no patience for capital letters and need no adjectives other than "awesome" and "retarded." You couldn't pay me enough to share a theater with people who would applaud this movie.
That said, I'll rent it on HD DVD, crank up the volume when the wife is out shopping, skip the comedy and character development and go straight to the scenes of robots tearing stuff apart.
Don't bother. Your obviously heightened intellect couldn't possibly find anything entertaining here. I believe there's a compelling period piece coming out about Jane Austin's life. BTW- saw TF again yesterday and it was awesome.
I grew up on Transformers and thankfully was able to watch it last night. I loved the movie, but I'm also biased. There are some things I didn't like such as the plot needed to tighted up, and truthfully, I'm not a big fan of some of Bays filming techniques and style.
Wow, what outstanding action sequences, special effects and sound. This reminded me of my first time watching Matrix or Terminator 2. Its a very impressive technical movie. Even if you don't like TF, find a nice theater and take in the sights and sound.
Tes7769 07-03-07, 08:42 AM I'm not really a big Transformer's fan but will see the movie if the reviews are good.I doubt i'll buy the HD DVD/BRD regardless of the movie though, because i'm just not into the subject matter all that much and won't spend $30 on the disc version of the movie.
skawhomp 07-03-07, 08:46 AM My review:
So, I saw this in an advance showing last night at 8:00. The wife went with me (bless her heart) and we both came out floored.
I have yet to have gone to a movie in recent memory that made me feel like I was 6 years old again. But while viewing this movie, I felt as if I was sitting in front of the family TV, watching the cartoon Transformers every morning before school. No the plot isn't perfect, and yes some of the humor is overly corny, but that is what Transformers is! The cartoon was incredibly corny at times, and the plots were sometimes convoluted. What made the Transformers special to me when I was a child were the characters. Optimus could always be counted on to offer sacrificial heroics, Bumblebee always had a fear of battle, yet would easily stand up for his human friends, Ironhide was always the battle-hardened soldier, and Megatron was always the endlessly aggressive personification of hatred and evil.
All the characters in this movie felt right. The Optimus in this movie WAS Optimus. Megatron WAS Megatron, and that is why this movie has blown me away. They took a extremely fond memory from my child-hood, and put it on the screen in only a way my overactive imagination could hope to imagine it. This movie was a treat, quite simply a treat, because it made me feel like a child again for 2 hours.
If you are skeptical at all of this movie, all I ask before you go is to clear your head of all preconceptions about what a film about giant robots "should" be like. Transformers was never about ultra-serious, soulless robots. Instead, expect a 2007 update of the 1980's TV show. Complete with 1980's cornball humor, 1980's guy-gets-girl-with-aid-of-robot-car, and 1980's extremes of good and evil. This is a 80's TV show made into a modern blockbuster, and I love it.
^Good review. I feel like you do about it :)
TV Casualty 07-03-07, 08:52 AM Will this be an outstanding, showpiece quality disc? I'd wager DEFINITELY.
Is this a good film? HELL no. Not even close. Optimus Prime was about one catchphrase/quip away from saying "Surf's up" or "Cowabunga!" The first 45 minutes were unbearable; a below-average teen sex comedy that, oh yeah, also had a car that would act funny every 10 minutes or so. Product placement was off the charts. While fight scenes (between the robots) were very loud and very pretty, you could never really tell what was actually HAPPENING - two of them would collide in mid-air, they'd roll around, then crash to the ground. Whoopdie-doo.
I wasn't expecting the 80's cartoon in the least (for those who are...well, aside from a few jabs at the old marketing catchphrase, and one line lifted directly from the 80's cartoon movie during the final Prime/Megatron fight...you'll be disappointed). I was just hoping it would be a well-done film. :(
A fairly miserable two hours and fifteen minutes of my life that - well, I won't say I want it back, but I would be perfectly content if I never saw it again.
methos75 07-03-07, 09:00 AM If I recall my childhood cartoons correctly, Transformers the original cartoons didn't really have much of a backstory or great mythology like star wars or LOTR. Its suppose to be fun (transforming) and exciting and totally no great plot.
One can't go into this movie and expect Star Wars with all the midichlorian stuff from a galaxy far, far away.
Audiences will love it because they may have been largely disappointed with the other summer movies like POTC 3 (too long, excessive visual effects), Spider-man 3 (messy, and lacks substance) and Rise of Silver Surfer (draggy and boring even for 1.5 hours). This Transformers movie becomes somewhat refreshing.
I wouldn't say it is a great movie but at least it didn't disappoint me as much as the POTC, Spider-man and Fantastic four sequels did. Definitely a must-get on HD whether HD DVD or BD.
Call me a TF nerd, But Transformers probably has one of the deepest back stories that a series based on a toy ever had. There are lierally millions of years of back story there from the original "god" creating Unicron and Primus as his heralds, the Quintessons creating the Slave machines that would eventually rebel and become the transformers, the start of the great war, the fallen 13 return, the autobot Matrix of Leadership, etc.
methos75 07-03-07, 09:06 AM And I have to say I see a definite trend here, those who grew up on Transformers and were/are still huge fans love the movie, those who didn't don't, I think I'll side with those who do. I thought the movie was about the best one I have seen in years next to 300.
tbass2k 07-03-07, 11:32 AM And I have to say I see a definite trend here, those who grew up on Transformers and were/are still huge fans love the movie, those who didn't don't, I think I'll side with those who do. I thought the movie was about the best one I have seen in years next to 300.
^Thank you, I mean really, I hated some of Michael Bay's movies but this is his masterpiece as far as I'm concerned. If you can honestly say that he DIDN'T capture the feel of the cartoon, then you never watched the cartoon. This movie has the best special effects that I have EVER seen; nothing ever looked faked and the story was sufficient to carry the action. This is hands down the best summer movie this year and one of the best action movies ever. To all those who haven't seen it, ignore the haters and go see it, you're gonna love it. It just amazes me how no matter what you do, you can't please everyone. If Michael Bay hadn't directed this, people would be complaining about how there wasn't enough action. I can guarantee, no other director right now would have included as much action as Bay did. I came to see an action-figure movie and I got it.
rantanamo 07-03-07, 01:05 PM Seems to me you have two groups and its not even split between fans and non fans.
one group who understands what Bay films have always been like, what Transformers are like and enter the theater looking for a couple hours of entertainment. This group doesn't love every movie, but they seem to understand what they're going to see.
VS
Those who like to diagnose movies element by element, and down to each and every technicality.
The first group seems to love the movie, the second seems to hate the movie. Having not seen it yet, that leads me to believe I shouldn't go in expecting Citizen Kane, but rather movie that I suspected based on the trailers. In other words, lots of blowing up stuff, big robots fighting, cheesy humor and an audience that really enjoys the flick. Not Citizen Kane.
damn, lot of "film snobs" in here, take the stick out of your asses and acutally enjoy a movie for what it is.
damn, lot of "film snobs" in here, take the stick out of your asses and acutally enjoy a movie for what it is.
LOL, exactly. :D
CowboysGuy1874 07-03-07, 01:44 PM damn, lot of "film snobs" in here, take the stick out of your asses and acutally enjoy a movie for what it is.
Tried. Didn't work.
CowboysGuy1874 07-03-07, 01:45 PM Seems to me you have two groups and its not even split between fans and non fans.
one group who understands what Bay films have always been like, what Transformers are like and enter the theater looking for a couple hours of entertainment. This group doesn't love every movie, but they seem to understand what they're going to see.
VS
Those who like to diagnose movies element by element, and down to each and every technicality.
The first group seems to love the movie, the second seems to hate the movie. Having not seen it yet, that leads me to believe I shouldn't go in expecting Citizen Kane, but rather movie that I suspected based on the trailers. In other words, lots of blowing up stuff, big robots fighting, cheesy humor and an audience that really enjoys the flick. Not Citizen Kane.
Sometimes, a film meant simply to entertain and not be nitpicked even fails at entertaining.
Tried. Didn't work.
If you are so against anything 'Michael Bay', why did you even bother to go see it? For example, Evan Almighty. I have no care to see it so im not gonna bother so I wont have to complain about wasting two hours of my life :)
crackdowncrash 07-03-07, 02:06 PM Sometimes, a film meant simply to entertain and not be nitpicked even fails at entertaining.
I think the key here is that it failed at entertaining YOU. Which is fine, I bet there are a number of movies you love, that others hate. To the same extent, there will be some they love that you hate.
I know people that hate the Matrix (the first one), I know people that hate Citizen Kane, I even know people that hate Blade Runner (gasp)
For instance I don't like the Shrek movies, at all. I find them obnoxious, too much Myers and Murphy in the same room for me, but a bunch of my friends including my girlfriend really enjoy them, so that is fine. I tell them my opinion ONCE and we all move on with our lives.
The main point here for me is that I have been bored at the theaters in general in recent years, enough to where I rarely go, but I bit the bullet on this one.
At the end of the movie I thought this was a great movie for me. It gave me everything I wanted for $9.50 and it is the first movie in a long time that I am considered going to see a second time in the theaters. Go into it looking for an action movie with a little corny humor and most people will enjoy it. My girlfriend, knowing nothing of transformers before the movie and typically only being into dramas actually enjoyed the movie as well, enough to the point she would go with me again.
However, if you a person that goes to movies trying to figure out if they will win an Oscar then I implore you to stay home. This is not Shakespearian in any sense. Personally, I find most Oscar nominated movies to be boring and they spend more time "searching" for an Oscar rather than entertaining me.
I'm not a Transformers fan in the slightest. My only exposure to the property is whenever it is mentioned in Clerks II.
I just hate Michael Bay's style of filmmaking. It's hard to care about action when none of the characters are worth it. Each of his films have this problem.
I tried Clerks II and HATED it. Why people love the Clerks films are beyond me. I won't bother with Transformers just from what I've seen in the trailers. These are obviously teeny bopper flicks.
D
SamwisetheBrave 07-03-07, 02:26 PM Michael Bay couldn't direct traffic. :p
On the other hand, one likes what one likes. It's kinda silly to tell others that a movie is great or that it sucks--and then get mad if they don't agree.
It's like someone saying that he or she hates chocolate ice cream, and someone else saying, "No, you don't. There was a poll--everyone agrees, chocolate ice cream is THE flavor." Guess what? If you don't like something, no one can convince you that you do; or vice-versa! :cool:
BTW- saw TF again yesterday and it was awesome.
are they really more than meets the eye ? :)
I love movies in general, sometimes feel like a great story then watch "garden state" "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind" or "Prestige". When I'm throwing a party with friend around, I'd like to put on movies like "Waiting", "Eurotrip" and "harold and kumar goes to white castle". Then there are times I'd like to check my brain at the door and enjoy a mindless action flick like "transformers", "blade" "tokyo drift" and "bad boys". No reason to hate on a movie just because you think transforming robots are stupid, you knew this before you went to see it. Same reason why I haven't seen "passion of the Christ" or "broke back mountain", knew what the movie was about and decided it wasn't for me but not gonna hate on it either.
alpha21 07-03-07, 02:47 PM I don't go to the theater hardly at all (MAYBE once per year, MAYBE)
With that said, the film/movie has to be something completely original, either story or direction/cineomatography wise, that it MUST be seen on the big screen. My last two times to the theater have been Sin City and 300.
So, TF IMO will not be anything that I can't wait until it's out on HD-DVD. Checking my brain at the door, is not something I want to leave the house for (though I'm single and have no reason to have to escape anything/one :cool: ) Even if I find the movie horrible, atleast my sub will knock down a few walls and shake the hell out of my couch (unlike the theater, where bass is always lacking)
As you may or may not tell, I'm a proud "movie snob". There are very few "check your brain..." movies I like. If it's gonna be mindless, it better be rated R. The Fifth Element may be one of the only.
Call me a TF nerd, But Transformers probably has one of the deepest back stories that a series based on a toy ever had. There are lierally millions of years of back story there from the original "god" creating Unicron and Primus as his heralds, the Quintessons creating the Slave machines that would eventually rebel and become the transformers, the start of the great war, the fallen 13 return, the autobot Matrix of Leadership, etc.
You are definitely a Transformers nerd!
With that said, the film/movie has to be something completely original, either story or direction/cineomatography wise, that it MUST be seen on the big screen. My last two times to the theater have been Sin City and 300.
Unfortunately not everyone feels that way. A copy of a movie won the best film of the year at the oscars, the original had a better scrip. Blasphemy!
alpha21 07-03-07, 02:54 PM Unfortunately not everyone feels that way. A copy of a movie won the best film of the year at the oscars, the original had a better scrip. Blasphemy!
which was? I probably haven't, or even plan to, watch it
I know it wasn't The Hitcher
Departed, remake of Hong kong film Infernal affairs.
BZiggyZ 07-03-07, 02:55 PM are they really more than meets the eye ? :)
lol, yeah. This time it was starring Sara Stone.
alpha21 07-03-07, 02:59 PM Departed, remake of Hong kong film Infernal affairs.atleast it wasn't a rated PG-13, check your brain..., popcorn movie. not to mention, many don't even know that it's a remake or have ever seen the original.
but you are correct, blasphemous!
techstar25 07-03-07, 03:05 PM Take my questionnaire to decide if you should see TF or not....
1) Did you like ET?
- Yes: go to #2
- No : don't go see TF
2) Did you like Jurassic Park?
- Yes: go to #3.
- No : don't go see TF
3) Did you like Independence Day?
- Yes: go to #4
- No : don't go see TF
4) Did you like Bad Boys?
- Yes: TF will be your favorite movie. See it now. I mean right now.
- No : Wait for the HD DVD.
evolver 07-03-07, 03:25 PM Unfortunately not everyone feels that way. A copy of a movie won the best film of the year at the oscars, the original had a better scrip. Blasphemy!
Yes, but it was a non-English film, so it would have had little chance of being nominated for Best Picture anyway. Discrimination!
A point of contention is the lack of consideration of non-English language films for categories other than Best Foreign Language Film: very few foreign films have been nominated for any other categories, regardless of artistic merit. As of 2006, only eight foreign language films have been nominated for Best Picture: Grand Illusion (French, 1938); Z (French, 1969); The Emigrants (Swedish, 1972); Cries and Whispers (Swedish, 1973); Il Postino (Italian/Spanish, 1995); Life Is Beautiful (Italian, 1998); Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Chinese Mandarin, 2000); and Letters from Iwo Jima (Japanese, 2006).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Picture#Controversy
Also, sad to see some peolpe don't think Transformers is even a good popcorn movie. I was hoping it would at least be as good as The Island (only without the retread chase scene lifted from Bad Boys II :rolleyes: ). I'll probably check it out anyway (stupid Michael Bay...).
alpha21 07-03-07, 03:35 PM Take my questionnaire to decide if you should see TF or not....
1) Did you like ET?
- Yes: go to #2
- No : don't go see TF
2) Did you like Jurassic Park?
- Yes: go to #3.
- No : don't go see TF
3) Did you like Independence Day?
- Yes: go to #4
- No : don't go see TF
4) Did you like Bad Boys?
- Yes: TF will be your favorite movie. See it now. I mean right now.
- No : Wait for the HD DVD.
Nice first post :cool:
my answer to any and all would be like on 40YOV "everyone likes those movies.....when you're F'n 5" LOL
CowboysGuy1874 07-03-07, 03:51 PM If you are so against anything 'Michael Bay', why did you even bother to go see it? For example, Evan Almighty. I have no care to see it so im not gonna bother so I wont have to complain about wasting two hours of my life :)
I saw it for 2 reasons:
1. A group of friends asked me to go. I thought it would be fun.
2. Reviews have been decent.
CowboysGuy1874 07-03-07, 03:58 PM I think the key here is that it failed at entertaining YOU. Which is fine, I bet there are a number of movies you love, that others hate. To the same extent, there will be some they love that you hate.
That is all I'm trying to say. I completely understand that one person's trash is another's treasure. This was complete trash in my eyes, but I don't wish for people coming out of the theatre to feel as annoyed by the film as I was.
I know people that hate the Matrix (the first one), I know people that hate Citizen Kane, I even know people that hate Blade Runner (gasp)
I know people who saw Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles and hated it. It pains me, but life goes on.
For instance I don't like the Shrek movies, at all. I find them obnoxious, too much Myers and Murphy in the same room for me, but a bunch of my friends including my girlfriend really enjoy them, so that is fine. I tell them my opinion ONCE and we all move on with our lives.
Replace Shrek with 300 and the situation matches mine.
The main point here for me is that I have been bored at the theaters in general in recent years, enough to where I rarely go, but I bit the bullet on this one.
At the end of the movie I thought this was a great movie for me. It gave me everything I wanted for $9.50 and it is the first movie in a long time that I am considered going to see a second time in the theaters. Go into it looking for an action movie with a little corny humor and most people will enjoy it. My girlfriend, knowing nothing of transformers before the movie and typically only being into dramas actually enjoyed the movie as well, enough to the point she would go with me again.
I'm glad you enjoyed the movie. It's mindless entertainment that a lot of people can and will enjoy, and good for them. I, however, checked my watch probably about 5 times in the last hour. To me, the only two movies really worth making the trip to the theatre are Knocked Up and Ratatouille.
However, if you a person that goes to movies trying to figure out if they will win an Oscar then I implore you to stay home. This is not Shakespearian in any sense. Personally, I find most Oscar nominated movies to be boring and they spend more time "searching" for an Oscar rather than entertaining me.
I would agree with your last assessment, but the so-called "film snobs" are able to shut their brains off just like any other moviegoers. I do consider myself a mild film snob, but I still enjoy many summer blockbusters each year. I just don't consider Transformers the top teir like some people make it out to be.
jezzeaepi 07-03-07, 04:10 PM "damn, lot of "film snobs" in here, take the stick out of your asses and acutally enjoy a movie for what it is. "
I would only take it out of my ass to beat myself to death so I wouldn't have to sit through another 2.5 hours of TF.
Nics1246 07-03-07, 04:12 PM Too each their own though. Perhaps if I was 7, or really wasted and it was an hour shorter, then it would have been fun.
You should put spoiler alerts when commenting on the film. Not everyone has seen it yet.
jezzeaepi 07-03-07, 04:24 PM My appologies I changed the 3 word spoiler. Seriously though, the plot doesnt matter.
zero_zep 07-03-07, 05:44 PM Wow....I cant believe there are a lot of people that went and saw the movie and were taken by suprise from what they got .This is transformers.....so I guess if you didnt know anything about it then I guess that understandable. I thought the movie was pretty damn good. This is subject material I thought could never be realized on the big screen. For me it was like x-men. Since the day I heard about it coming out I was in disbelif and thought it couldnt be done. And like x-men the only thing TF left me with was wanting more! There was not one shot in this entire movie that I thought looked fake unlike certain movies *cough* sm3 *cough*. This is the type of movie that you leave and say "wow....Ive never seen something like that before." It took an 80's cartoon and made it appear real for crying out loud. If this doesnt win the AA for speacil effects I will glady take a piss on whatever does.
ashley76 07-03-07, 07:07 PM Well just got back from seeing it... Totally flipping awesome! If the HD-DVD comes close to the experience I had at the theater (minus the geek sitting beside me that had to comment on everything) then it will definately be the movie to show off your HT. the sound was flipping amazing! I don't think I have ever been to a movie with incredible sound like this. This movie blew away my expectations going in. Best movie I have seen in years!
Andrew J L 07-03-07, 07:13 PM I loved the cartoon, I loved the movie.
I had tears in my eyes from the nastalgia.
I could do without the shaky cam, but other scenes were sharp.
The autobot dialog was spot on from the cartoon.
The loss of you know who made me sad.
Can't wait for the sequel.
BassTek 07-03-07, 07:50 PM I don't get all the Michael Bay hate. You think one would know whether they like his movies or not by now, apart from Pearl Harbor I think most of his films have been solid popcorn flicks. Seems like people are just jumping on the "I hate Bay" bandwagon in order to act like they are proper film buffs.
tbass2k 07-03-07, 08:05 PM I don't get all the Michael Bay hate. You think one would know whether they like his movies or not by now, apart from Pearl Harbor I think most of his films have been solid popcorn flicks. Seems like people are just jumping on the "I hate Bay" bandwagon in order to act like they are proper film buffs.
I completely agree with you.....if you look at Bay's short resume, Pearl Harbor is the only movie that really sucks, imo, and it really wasn't even close to being one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Transformers gave me the magic that summer movies are supposed to. Bring on the sequel.
P.S. Once again, these are the most flawless special effects I have ever seen.
Both The Rock and Bad boys are great movies, the guy knows how to make a great flashy summer big budget movies.
pavesk8 07-03-07, 08:38 PM I loved Transformers when I was 12. I saw the movie today and I can say that at 32 i still love the Transformers. They did a great job with this movie.
Just got back from Transformers. Like someone else said, this reminds me of what summer blockbusters are all about (unlike Spiderman 3 which I thought was awful). Last time I was this happy coming out of a movie was ID4 way back in the day. Along with some great special effects, TF was very entertaining and a lot of fun. I don't go to movies in the theater very often but I would seriously see this again. To show how long it's been for me...I thought tickets were $8 and was floored when I had to pay $8.50 for a matinee. I can't wait for it to come out on HD-DVD.
Foxarwing42 07-03-07, 11:22 PM This movie was cool, I can't wait for HD disc. PARAMOUNT BETTER NOT SKIP THE TRUEHD TRACK LIKE THEY USUALLY DO!
maingon 07-03-07, 11:24 PM I loved this movie, best movie of the summer and one of the coolest movies I ever seen. It was awesome. Huge Applause at the end of the movie too! 10/10
Cant wait for the HD-DVD
I just watched 'Bad Boys 2' and 'Pearl Harbor' on DVD this past weekend, and both disks had excellent special features, showing the breakdown of the special effects, how they were created, etc. Michael Bay is definitely into showing you what's behind the curtain, so to speak, in all of his movies, so I have high hopes for the eventual Transformers home release.
Please Dreamworks, make it at least a 2 disk release!
cotton168 07-03-07, 11:34 PM I absolutely cannot wait for this movie to come out on HD. :D
Hot,Hot,Hot.....Told my girl while jumping up and down exiting the theater I am getting this on HD for sure....WOW felt like a kid... a 38 year old kid...
DJoel
SteroMAdMAn 07-04-07, 01:01 AM I'll hopefully catch this tomorrow night. Hopefully all the kids will be out getting drunk or watching fireworks.
Transformers!! - saw it , this will be THE DISC
Agree!
GREAT matinee flick! Although I predict for some it will be to grainy.
Made me think of:
Godzilla meets Christine.
Also referenced;
Cujo
Short Circuit
War Games
ID4
Mars Attacks!
King Kong (1933)
Black Hawk Down
I was not offended, thought it was all handled quite well. Very entertaining! :D
A little long in the middle for me (ten or twelve minutes, maybe even fifteen), however that was the Transformer stuff that fans (I'm too old! Never watched the show) probably like the best. I thought the first thirty + minutes were fantastic!!!
Sound was very forward in the theater I watched it in, yet impressive. Best explosions ever! LUV'D the shots from the plane at the end of the desert scene. Awesome! Also enjoyed the female broadcasters voice being heard from outside in the backyard w/the Transformers, when the parents were watching TV inside. Its very faint, yet as the camera zooms into the living room the voice increases in volume. Very cool!
Favelle 07-04-07, 01:25 AM and some of the most contrived and innane plot points I've seen in decades.
Hmmm.....a movie about alien robots......what the hell were you expecting???
Good grief.
2007 will be the year of the Transformers, whether the naysayers like it or not!
shadowrage 07-04-07, 01:28 AM Awesome movie. This totally makes up for The Island.
Spielber should have co-directed leaving Bay to just do FX.
But yeah dark shots are really grainy. Not as much surround sound as I would have liked.
28 weeks later has better sound. Better film in general.
But hearing 'Roll out' gave me the chills. Hell yeah.
The rock music worked well too.
Favelle 07-04-07, 01:38 AM I tell them my opinion ONCE and we all move on with our lives.
Yeah, not likely with this guy man. He waits for 10 positive posts, then interjects with his negative one. We get it, he didn't like the movie. Why he has to tell us 10 times is beyond me.
Favelle 07-04-07, 01:41 AM Michael Bay is definitely into showing you what's behind the curtain, so to speak, in all of his movies, so I have high hopes for the eventual Transformers home release.
Check out the torrent of the HBO Transformers special. Its 23 minutes of "the making of Transformers" basically. It will blow you away. It is so freakin' cool. It also has TONS of new scenes that the trailers haven't shown.
assasyn 07-04-07, 01:54 AM Just got back from the late night showing. WOW! I loved it and so did my wife. This is a for sure buy.
Side note: HD DVD and Blu-ray ads in front of the picture. This only the second film that I have seen an ad for HD DVD.
TheThunder 07-04-07, 02:01 AM Add my name to the list of people who absolutely loved this movie. I really liked the original animated movie (and honestly, for some reason I was a little disappointed that the song "You Got the Touch" didn't make it into the film), and I thought the voice acting felt very close to the original even given the different voice actors -- especially Megatron. For those of you who never watched Transformers as a kid, there's a good chance you won't like this flick, with the exception of those who do like a pure action flick AND want to get in touch with their inner child (which also in my case is easy as I usually have to get in touch with my inner adult when the situation commands it. :D )
One earlier comment grabbed me though regarding the use of the surround channels: did you really feel they were underutilized? Whilst I was watching it I was actually blown away by the abundance of information presented in those channels. Throughout the movie I kept thinking how I couldn't wait for the chance to run the (hopefully) TrueHD track through my Klipsch Reference setup at reference levels. That'll be a movie night to remember.
En Sabur Nur 07-04-07, 02:11 AM I just got back from seeing it as well. I thoroughly enjoyed it and will see it again. What a ride!
They better pull out all the stops for the HD DVD! I want top notch picture and sound, for this. This will give your Buttkicker and you entire audio system a thorough workout!
SamwisetheBrave 07-04-07, 09:19 AM I don't get all the Michael Bay hate. You think one would know whether they like his movies or not by now, apart from Pearl Harbor I think most of his films have been solid popcorn flicks. Seems like people are just jumping on the "I hate Bay" bandwagon in order to act like they are proper film buffs.
Naw...I've hated Michael Bay's films long before everyone else jumped on the bandwagon. ;)
Nics1246 07-04-07, 12:43 PM One thing I did notice was that many scenes looked quite grainy. I don't know if it was intentional or not but it looked pretty bad IMO. Funny, because I would never even notice things like that when going to the movies but now since I have jumped on the HD bandwagon I pay attention to PQ. All of the action scenes looked great though.
pavesk8 07-04-07, 01:03 PM (and honestly, for some reason I was a little disappointed that the song "You Got the Touch" didn't make it into the film), .
I was thinking the same thing during the movie. It would have moved me to tears.
Axiom Divine 07-04-07, 02:41 PM One thing I did notice was that many scenes looked quite grainy. I don't know if it was intentional or not but it looked pretty bad IMO. Funny, because I would never even notice things like that when going to the movies but now since I have jumped on the HD bandwagon I pay attention to PQ. All of the action scenes looked great though.
I had a friend who saw it at a regular projection theater and said it was very grainy. The theater I saw it was a DLP theater and it looked very clean and crisp. I noticed grain at the same theater for 300, but not for Transformers. The PQ and AQ was amazing.
The movie itself was almost an action/comedy. Many funny parts and amazing action sequences. Too many haters in this thread. I was thoroughly entertained the entire time. The few small things that bothered me were easily over-shadowed by all the good things.
Anyone else catch the nod to Kill Bill?
Too many haters in this thread. I was thoroughly entertained the entire time. The few small things that bothered me were easily over-shadowed by all the good things.
Well put. It's funny how posts after the release date from people who just came from seeing it are almost all enthusiastically positive. It wasn't meant to be deep. To put down Michael Bay for making an entertaining movie about transforming robots/toys is totally missing the point.
Nics1246 07-04-07, 03:55 PM The few small things that bothered me were easily over-shadowed by all the good things.
Exactly how I feel. As I mentioned earlier, it did have a tad too much humour IMO but the action and everything else was so intense that I can easily overlook those flaws.
GoCheese 07-04-07, 04:04 PM This will be THE biggest selling Hd DVD/ BD of all time by a mile until Clones and ROTS are released, it is a visual and audio wet dream, can't believe how good it was.
fretman 07-04-07, 05:03 PM Just got back from seeing it. I would give it maybe a 2.5 to 3.0 out of 5.
- possible spoilers next -
It started great. The first attack at the desert base was one of the best action/CGI sequences in any fim. Then it started to shift from a serious attempt to one geared more for kids, with a smattering of teen angst. Too much silliness for me. Too much awkward humor. The Secretary of Defense seemed a bit bumbling and incompetent. The action sequence at the end was frenetic and at times and difficult to follow. I wanted a strait-ahead, adult, serious take, on the transformers. I'm afraid that just didn't happen. OK, but a bit of a disappointment for me. Didn't hate it, just didn't love it. I'm sure it will do well in the theater and on DVD.
DavidEC 07-04-07, 05:06 PM Just got back from seeing it. I would give it maybe a 2.5 to 3.0 out of 5.
- possible spoilers next -
It started great. The first attack at the desert base was one of the best action/CGI sequences in any fim. ..... The Secretary of Defense seemed a bit bumbling and incompetent. .....
And how it that not like real life today??
sikoniko 07-04-07, 05:27 PM loved the movie.. didnt expect to like it much based on the way the robots looked. to me, i liked the originals and changing them seemed sacreligious. it didnt bother me as much as i thought it would.
found this on the wikipedia page for the movie:
Sequels
On May 30, 2007, Dreamworks greenlit two sequels to Transformers,[98] and Shia LaBeouf,[99] Megan Fox[100] and Peter Cullen[38] signed on to return. Producer Tom DeSanto has envisioned a storyline introducing the Dinobots, the Constructicons, and Soundwave.[16] Writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman may not return, as "Star Trek... is taking up kind of all of our time."[27] Michael Bay has not signed on, "trying to keep some leverage for the negotiations",[38] but already has ideas, including an aircraft carrier character. [101]
if the above pans out, I can't wait to hear "me grimlock".
soundwave would be cool too. what would he eject? SD cards? compact flash cards? i didnt like the little boombox transformer they had in this movie.
jezzeaepi 07-04-07, 06:01 PM "Writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman may not return, as "Star Trek... is taking up kind of all of our time."[27] Michael Bay has not signed on,"
Sweet then the other two films have hope =P
mproper 07-04-07, 06:06 PM Just got back. Really liked it quite a bit, although the shaky cam and closeup were a little nauseating after awhile...I guess pulling back and holding the camera still would expose some difficulties with the special effects, perhaps.
Non-related, but in our theater they showed a teaser but I must've missed the name of the movie. It was basically a hand-recorded going away party, but at the end there's a big explosion outside and the Statue of Liberty's head lands in the street. There's some screams and stuff that kindof sound like Godzilla (although I can't believe they'd make another one of those). Anyone see the preview I'm talking about and know what movie it's for?
EDIT: Just did some research on my own (shoulda done that in the first place) and it's an untitled JJ Abrams project. Website (http://www.1-18-08.com/) (nothing there really) and IMDB entry (http://imdb.com/title/tt1060277/) (also no info) and small article (http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/29/cloverfield-teaser-update/) (slightly more info)
Anyways, it has me intrigued. I love when things blow up!
sikoniko 07-04-07, 06:45 PM Just got back. Really liked it quite a bit, although the shaky cam and closeup were a little nauseating after awhile...I guess pulling back and holding the camera still would expose some difficulties with the special effects, perhaps.
Non-related, but in our theater they showed a teaser but I must've missed the name of the movie. It was basically a hand-recorded going away party, but at the end there's a big explosion outside and the Statue of Liberty's head lands in the street. There's some screams and stuff that kindof sound like Godzilla (although I can't believe they'd make another one of those). Anyone see the preview I'm talking about and know what movie it's for?
EDIT: Just did some research on my own (shoulda done that in the first place) and it's an untitled JJ Abrams project. Website (http://www.1-18-08.com/) (nothing there really) and IMDB entry (http://imdb.com/title/tt1060277/) (also no info) and small article (http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/29/cloverfield-teaser-update/) (slightly more info)
Anyways, it has me intrigued. I love when things blow up!
looks like another blair witch.. no thanks..
I cannot wait to watch Starscream attacking the other jets over and over again.
:)
GREAT movie.
cnickersonjr 07-04-07, 07:46 PM Saw it this morning. GREAT movie. I have to have this in HD. ASAP
stevenmh 07-04-07, 07:56 PM Saw it this afternoon. AWESOME. Thought the All Spark thing was a little iffy...
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why did it have to be in someone's chest to be destroyed... why did Bay state he wasn't doing any mass-displacement characters (Soundwave) because he thought it didn't make sense, but then had the cube shrink... where did the animated cell phone get the mass to start spitting out rounds and firing off missiles... why did all the animated electronics have a violent nature...
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But that's nitpicking. Great movie. Can't wait for the HD DVD.
I did notice a lot of the grain. The movie seemed very dark and soft early on, even in the daylit desert scenes, like they didn't have the projector adjusted right. No highlights in the shadows on faces. Didn't notice it so much later on.
mproper:
I saw the trailer also. I started getting Godzilla vibe early on, then that 'roar' firmed it up. No way you could put that roar that sounds sort of like a horn on anything else and not be accused of outright stealing. Since the last one was poor IMO, I'm looking forward to a chance to do one right.
ricwhite 07-04-07, 08:22 PM Non-related, but in our theater they showed a teaser but I must've missed the name of the movie. It was basically a hand-recorded going away party, but at the end there's a big explosion outside and the Statue of Liberty's head lands in the street. There's some screams and stuff that kindof sound like Godzilla (although I can't believe they'd make another one of those). Anyone see the preview I'm talking about and know what movie it's for?
EDIT: Just did some research on my own (shoulda done that in the first place) and it's an untitled JJ Abrams project. !
Abrams? I think it's "Blacky" from LOST that escapes the Island and reeks havoc on New York. But that's just a guess.
WiFi-Spy 07-04-07, 08:27 PM if you grew up in the 80s, you will love this movie.... :)
ricwhite 07-04-07, 08:31 PM if you grew up in the 80s, you will love this movie.... :)
Darn . . . I grew up in the 70s. :(
WiFi-Spy 07-04-07, 08:33 PM Everyone, Do yourself a favor and see this in a DLP theater. :)
BassTek 07-04-07, 08:42 PM Everyone, Do yourself a favor and see this in a DLP theater. :)
Even if it is 10 hours away? :(
LunchboxGTI 07-04-07, 08:45 PM IMDB has a little info on it. Sounds pretty cool if it is really filmed using handicams. Won't look good on HD though. :D
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1060277/synopsis
Just got back. Really liked it quite a bit, although the shaky cam and closeup were a little nauseating after awhile...I guess pulling back and holding the camera still would expose some difficulties with the special effects, perhaps.
Non-related, but in our theater they showed a teaser but I must've missed the name of the movie. It was basically a hand-recorded going away party, but at the end there's a big explosion outside and the Statue of Liberty's head lands in the street. There's some screams and stuff that kindof sound like Godzilla (although I can't believe they'd make another one of those). Anyone see the preview I'm talking about and know what movie it's for?
EDIT: Just did some research on my own (shoulda done that in the first place) and it's an untitled JJ Abrams project. Website (http://www.1-18-08.com/) (nothing there really) and IMDB entry (http://imdb.com/title/tt1060277/) (also no info) and small article (http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/29/cloverfield-teaser-update/) (slightly more info)
Anyways, it has me intrigued. I love when things blow up!
WiFi-Spy 07-04-07, 09:02 PM Even if it is 10 hours away? :(
ouch, maybe you should wait for the HD DVD ;)
gabriele25 07-04-07, 09:17 PM I thought it was a decent movie. Definitely not a very good movie about transformers in my opinion. I think a majority of movies based on comics or cartoons should try to follow the original format as much as possible. I thought a lot of stuff could have been edited and the destruction was over the top. I will buy the hd dvd because it will look great on a hi-def format.
I've seen it twice and take it from me if you have the option see it via a digital projection system (as I did the second time around) that by itself will have you smiling hours after the movie.
I will now count the days until it's HD DVD arrival.
sikoniko 07-04-07, 10:58 PM was optimus the only original voice? i thought a couple of them might have been original, but couldnt remember...
gilham1 07-04-07, 11:00 PM I just got back from seeing Transformers ,and i must say it was one of the best movies of it kind i have seen.I havent wanted to go and get in line to re see a movie in a long time and this is one i was wanting to see over right away...
This will be a must buy once it comes out.
Seen it twice and going back again Sunday night.
I loved it. Who is this Megan Fox? BEA-TI-FUL! :drools: Shia LaBeouf is perfect for this role, they have chemistry and everything worked well, even the parents were right on!
I love the little homage Bay gave us with Bumble Bee in the beginning with the Camero (btw, looks very slick) beside the VW Beetle. LOL
Transformers was my most anticipated this year and Michael Bay/Spielberg delivered...I can see watching this again and again, it was a blast.
HomerJay 07-04-07, 11:07 PM I saw it last night. I loved it!! This is a no-brainer when it ships on HD DVD (Paramount seems to know where to get my money; they seem to be relatively consistent in getting their new releases out on HD DVD...sometimes a few months later, but I can't imagine this will be late)...:)
I started playing the game (Xbox 360) before watching the movie. Ever since seeing the movie, playing the game is all I've wanted to do...;)
Edit: I was glad to see the Michael Imperioli HD DVD spot before the feature. Without a doubt HD DVD is targeting a more serious, classy audience interested in film as art than the flashy Blu-ray spot that followed (for some reason highlighting the availability of some of the worst titles on Blu-ray... :confused: ).
was optimus the only original voice? i thought a couple of them might have been original, but couldnt remember...
Yes I believe he was the only original the guy who originally did Megatron and Starscream passed away a few years ago.
I'm hoping that the sequel will feature Galvatron ([Mr. T]Leonard Nemoy needs work fool[/Mr. T])
stevenmh 07-04-07, 11:37 PM Yes I believe he was the only original the guy who originally did Megatron and Starscream passed away a few years ago.
The guy who did the original Megatron (Frank Welker) is still alive and well. He auditioned for the role but didn't get it. He did get the role for the video game, though.
Slim GoodBooty 07-04-07, 11:51 PM I can't wait to hear all of the "bad transfer" cries.
cnickersonjr 07-05-07, 12:18 AM Everyone, Do yourself a favor and see this in a DLP theater. :)
How do you find it showing on DLP? I've only seen it on Meet The Robinsons & Spidey 3.
UPDATE: I found one. Here you go Houston. I'll be here early Friday.
Edwards Greenway Palace 24
3839 Weslayan
Houston, TX 77027
(713) 871-8955
Edwards Houston Marq*e 23 & IMAX
7620 Katy Freeway
Houston, TX 77024
(713) 263-7843
Foxarwing42 07-05-07, 01:01 AM I was watching this demo they had in Circuit City and it was a PS3 hooked up, with the Transformers trailer playing over and over again.
There were some parts that looked awesome....but that was only when the machines weren't onscreen. When they were, everything got all blocky and it was terrible. I tried everything to fix it but there's no way the trailer I saw will look anything like the actual disk.
I then left and went to the sound proof booth to watch King Kong on HD DVD. I was also surprised to find an reciever from Onkyo (sp?) that was equipped with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. It was $500 and I would have bought it on the spot if I didn't have to save up and actually get an XA2 first.
rantanamo 07-05-07, 01:27 AM I thought it was a decent movie. Definitely not a very good movie about transformers in my opinion. I think a majority of movies based on comics or cartoons should try to follow the original format as much as possible. I thought a lot of stuff could have been edited and the destruction was over the top. I will buy the hd dvd because it will look great on a hi-def format.
If this was more faithful to the cartoon:
- Bots would have been bulky and not nearly as nimble. Their ability to move around acrobatically was part of what made them work, IMHO.
- You'd just have fanboys watching it and no one else. I loved the cartoons, but Megan Fox had to be there, and its good to have a little goofiness in it.
- The modern vehicles look better than the old Transformers vehicles. Especially that Camaro.
- Megatron would have had to shrink down to a few inches. That would mean he would have to look like Frenzy. What he transformed into instead was pretty sweet in comparison.
TheSimplePanda 07-05-07, 01:35 AM Everyone, Do yourself a favor and see this in a DLP theater. :)
http://www.dlp.com/cinema/default.aspx
On the right hand side there is a "finder" that lets you locate a DLP equipped theatre in your area.
For all of those wondering.
WiFi-Spy tells no lie - I saw Transformers yesterday on film (ScotiaBank/Paramount downtown Toronto) and saw it tonight on DLP (Colossus in Vaughan).
The DLP just looked -amazing-.
Also, most DLP theatres tend to be THX certified as I understand it so the rooms are setup better.
cnickersonjr 07-05-07, 01:47 AM I just tried your link, and neither of the above theaters came up. I use Fandango (http://www.fandango.com/TheaterPage.aspx?location=77024&tid=AAOJH) It says DLP(Digital Projection) Showtimes if a movie is being shown that way.
RAVEN56706 07-05-07, 07:53 AM Seen it twice and going back again Sunday night.
I loved it. Who is this Megan Fox? BEA-TI-FUL! :drools: Shia LaBeouf is perfect for this role, they have chemistry and everything worked well, even the parents were right on!
I love the little homage Bay gave us with Bumble Bee in the beginning with the Camero (btw, looks very slick) beside the VW Beetle. LOL
Transformers was my most anticipated this year and Michael Bay/Spielberg delivered...I can see watching this again and again, it was a blast.
my feelings to the t.... it was great... saw it twice and the theaters were sold out... this totally puts Spidey 3 to shame
dan0368 07-05-07, 08:21 AM I freaking LOVED this movie! I wanted to turn around and go see it again!
mproper 07-05-07, 08:56 AM [QUOTE=stevenmh]
******** SPOILER WARNING **************
why did it have to be in someone's chest to be destroyed... why did Bay state he wasn't doing any mass-displacement characters (Soundwave) because he thought it didn't make sense, but then had the cube shrink... where did the animated cell phone get the mass to start spitting out rounds and firing off missiles... why did all the animated electronics have a violent nature...
************** END SPOILERS ***************
I've only seen it once, but I think Optimus says he's going to combine it with "the one in his chest" or something to that effect (he then opens his chest to reveal something. It appears that whatever powers a transformer is in their chest, and combined with the allspark would have a chain reaction.
I also didn't like the cube shrinking. I was glad when he said he was doing away with the mass shifting, then disappointed to see the cube go that way. I also didn't like how new robots were created (just dousing something with radiation).
Not sure why all robots came out "evil"...maybe it had something to do with the speech about how all technology (microchips, etc) derived from Megatron, so they all come out as a Decepticon. Also not sure why they don't have that glass case thick enough to prevent cracking from a tiny robot running it's head into it
Just some thoughts. I try not to overanalyze movies like this too much...
RAVEN56706 07-05-07, 09:04 AM some people clapped when megatron appeared and fought
jason10mm 07-05-07, 09:32 AM Yeah, the flick was pretty cheesy, but the military stuff was GREAT! I loved the MC-130!
Am I the only one who thought the aussie was WAAYYY hotter than that over-tanned squeeky voiced chick?
Definite sequal coming. I'd like to see some dinobot action and maybe the constructicons. SERIOUS collateral damage potential there!
As for the all-spark shrinking. We don't really know if it lost mass or not. Maybe it was hollow inside, or made of some material lighter than hydrogen (if such a thing could even exist).
What I want to know is why they had Megatron in ice but didn't have a battleship rifle pointing at his chest. I for sure would not rely on liquid nitrogen to keep him frozen!
mproper 07-05-07, 09:52 AM Yeah, the flick was pretty cheesy, but the military stuff was GREAT! I loved the MC-130!
That was awesome. USA! USA! (ok ok, I'll stop)
Am I the only one who thought the aussie was WAAYYY hotter than that over-tanned squeeky voiced chick?
No. She needed more screen time. She all but disappeared after Starscream blew the power out. Although Megan Fox looked great while looking at Bumblebee's engine (did you see that stomach?). I was really hoping she would pop the hood and see a big robot head staring at her though...
Definite sequal coming. I'd like to see some dinobot action and maybe the constructicons. SERIOUS collateral damage potential there!
Confirmed for 2 more sequels. I have no desire to see the dinobots (less than no desire if that's possible), but the constructicons would be cool.
What I want to know is why they had Megatron in ice but didn't have a battleship rifle pointing at his chest. I for sure would not rely on liquid nitrogen to keep him frozen!
Or giant electrical cables to short-circuit him. But that's typical human ignorance. I am just overjoyed they didn't use an Apple laptop to upload a virus to the Decepticons, ala Independence Day.
steinfire 07-05-07, 11:00 AM I took my 6 year old to see it and we loved it. I plan on going to see t next week on IMAX.
this movie will definately show off your HT system when it does come out on HD
oh yea....did someone say Megan Fox was in it
http://www.megansafox.com/gallery/albums/transformers/normal_Megan_Fox_Transformers_25.jpg
georgeorwell 07-05-07, 11:18 AM Great film, stay around during the credits for the end scenes...pretty funny. Also, catch the "making of" on HBO if you can. The stunt work that was done in downtown LA was amazing.
Topweasel 07-05-07, 11:57 AM Great film, stay around during the credits for the end scenes...pretty funny. Also, catch the "making of" on HBO if you can. The stunt work that was done in downtown LA was amazing.
Hmm. I was hearing on the radio that the downtown fight scenes where done in Detroit about 30 miles from my work.
ShaggyHD 07-05-07, 11:59 AM Saw this yesterday like many of you and loved it. I watched the cartoons faithfully as a kid although I don't remember much from them as I was 6 or 7 at the time. I loved the movie anyways despite some of it's flaws.
This is a no-brainer to get in HD, once a pre-order is available I'm there (even if it is a combo :p )
RAVEN56706 07-05-07, 12:09 PM I took my 6 year old to see it and we loved it. I plan on going to see t next week on IMAX.
this movie will definately show off your HT system when it does come out on HD
oh yea....did someone say Megan Fox was in it
http://www.megansafox.com/gallery/albums/transformers/normal_Megan_Fox_Transformers_25.jpg
droolllllinnnngggg
sciondriver 07-05-07, 12:11 PM I liked the movie because...well I am a fanboy of Transformers.
The critical side of me sours the experience. This movie is a rip off of Independence Day from 1996 in so many ways. I am a big fan of that 1996 flick so I am more aware of the copy cat nature Michael Bay pulled off.
*spoilers*
Independence Day
1. Aliens block Sat Communications which leads to Earths final attack being set up using "morse code" to communicate. Later this signal is used to send a virus?
2. The president was not aware of "Area 51" being real and the fact that we had found a space ship and aliens years ago. This info could have been helpful early in the attacks against earth. THIS IS A MAJOR TURNING POINT IN THE MOVIE.
*released on 4th of July
Transformers
1. Decepticons block Sat Communications with a virus which leads to Earths final attack being set up using "morse code" to communicate.
2. The president and Defense Secretary John Keller was not aware of "Sector 7" being real and the fact that we had found a giant frozon robot (megatron) years ago. This info could have been helpful early in the attacks against earth by the Decepticons. THIS IS A MAJOR TURNING POINT IN THE MOVIE.
*released on 4th of July
These may seem like minor things but as I sat through transformers I waited for Will Smith to pop in.
maingon 07-05-07, 12:11 PM Hmm. I was hearing on the radio that the downtown fight scenes where done in Detroit about 30 miles from my work.
On the making of on HBO they say that they were able to shoot in downtown LA, they mentioned they took over downtown LA and transformed it to a warzone
maingon 07-05-07, 12:15 PM Everyone, Do yourself a favor and see this in a DLP theater. :)
yeah it looked great, luckly every theater near me switched 100% to DLP screens. Cost them 14 Million dollars I believe to swtich over
georgeorwell 07-05-07, 12:32 PM Hmm. I was hearing on the radio that the downtown fight scenes where done in Detroit about 30 miles from my work.
Yeah, I used to live outside Detroit. Some of those fight scenes looked like an average afternoon in the big city.
acegamer 07-05-07, 01:18 PM Saw the movie yesterday and loved it! Can't wait for the HD release. Sounds like the vast majority of people really like it. Everyone that I've spoken with had a great time with it and most of the comments online have been very positive, with only a few negative reviews. I think that the movie is generating a positive word of mouth buzz so it should wind up making a whole bunch of money and might even manage to avoid the 65% second week drop off curse that has been hitting the major "blockbusters" this summer.
Favelle 07-05-07, 02:09 PM Hmm. I was hearing on the radio that the downtown fight scenes where done in Detroit about 30 miles from my work.
Download the HBO off the torrents. Its DEFINITELY downtown LA.
UCFKevin 07-05-07, 02:27 PM Anyone see some really bad compression during some of the indoor scenes? It looked outright AWFUL.
This movie didn't do much for me. I grew up with the Transformers but wasn't TOO into them. Any part with a Bot was pretty damn cool. Everything else with the humans was bad bad BAD. And I looove Michael Bay flicks. But this one, for some reason, just really annoyed me. It was lame. I didn't care about anything in the movie. The plot? Not a big enough purpose. All Sparks or whatever? Eh...and the storylines, the actors...bland.
But boy, the CGI looked fantastic!
Anyone see some really bad compression during some of the indoor scenes? It looked outright AWFUL.
No, but I did notice that there was some heavy grain during nighttime outdoor shots.
UCFKevin 07-05-07, 02:45 PM Yeah, I noticed that, too. I'm kinda curious if I would've noticed it at all if I wasn't so into this kind of high tec high def stuff. Would I still recognize flaws as much as I do? Damn!
The CGI was almost a little too good and too detailed. So much of the fight scenes were hardcore closeups and I couldn't tell what the hell was going on, which Transformer was which.
madpoet 07-05-07, 03:24 PM Just saw it.... neat flick, some definate eye candy. But some weird comrpession and bad graphics, like at the end when he is running away from Megatron through the street. Just looked awful! Didn't like what they did with Bumblebee either. And what the hell was with Optimus getting his ass handed to him by megatron like that? They needed to stay more faithful to the original :)
UCFKevin 07-05-07, 03:26 PM Wouldn't have hurt to hear "You've Got the Touch!" just once...
RAVEN56706 07-05-07, 03:36 PM Wouldn't have hurt to hear "You've Got the Touch!" just once...
no that would hurt
philnerd 07-05-07, 03:46 PM they mentioned they took over downtown LA and transformed it to a warzone
I was gonna try to say something funny here, but I just overloaded.
Topweasel 07-05-07, 05:20 PM Wouldn't have hurt to hear "You've Got the Touch!" just once...
Maybe when Lebouf was on the hood with Megan.
Megalith 07-05-07, 05:32 PM They should have played Dare To Be Stupid when Bumblebee was peeing.
Just saw it today. Over all it was a very good summer film. It was not the big let down like the Prequels were but I was a little disappointed with some of the outcomes.
There were no Transformer deaths until Transformers The Movie, which was awful itself. They always retreated to fight another day. Killing off so many in this film was depressing to me. Obviously Megatron was a central character but Jazz was big as well. Now they are gone. Major bummer.
BTW I've been a major TF fan from the get-go.
rantanamo 07-06-07, 12:43 AM Just remember they are robots sbd. Nothing is forever.
ryoohki 07-06-07, 12:51 AM Just saw it.... neat flick, some definate eye candy. But some weird comrpession and bad graphics, like at the end when he is running away from Megatron through the street. Just looked awful! Didn't like what they did with Bumblebee either. And what the hell was with Optimus getting his ass handed to him by megatron like that? They needed to stay more faithful to the original :)
Well.. in the TF Movie... Optimus is getting Owned by Megatron at the start but quickly turn it for it's own good..
They were a couple of nice TF fan thing.. i smiled when i heard Megatron say : You FAILED me YET AGAIN Starscream!
I'am glad they kept that... BumbleBee is the 'Funny' Guy in the Comic, he's sure funny here too...
paintit77 07-06-07, 01:00 AM I hope they don't screw this one up when it gets released on either format!
It was highly entertaining and will be going to go see it again!
TheThunder 07-06-07, 01:41 AM Maybe when Lebouf was on the hood with Megan.
Where were you when they were doing the screenplay? That is hilarious. :D
TheSimplePanda 07-06-07, 10:23 AM Confirmed for 2 more sequels. I have no desire to see the dinobots (less than no desire if that's possible), but the constructicons would be cool.
*spoilers included*
I think they've basically ruled out Constructicons.... in so much as one of the Constructicons was Bonecrusher, who was in the Transformers movie already. Indeed, he was the one who transformed on the highway (smashed through the bus) and then got run through the face by Prime's arm sword.
Second, and more confusingly, the Constructicons could form up and make a new robot... Devastator. Devastator was ALSO in the movie (though it was never suggested that he was other robots formed together). He was the giant tank whom they destroyed at the end (in the town square).
So, it would seem for various reasons, inserting the Constructicons into a sequel isn't likely.
Of course, the Dinobots I could handle.... though I'm hoping Omega Supreme makes an appearance in some capacity. :)
RAVEN56706 07-06-07, 10:58 AM if you didnt like the childish dialogue, i dont think you want the dinobots in the movie
if you didnt like the childish dialogue, i dont think you want the dinobots in the movie
Me Grimlock, sad.
jason10mm 07-06-07, 02:07 PM Well, if they are going to make Megatron and Starscream growlers instead of screechers, it shouldn't be hard to de-stupify the Dinobots. I forget how they came to be originally, but the movie-verse could easily make them ancient transformers who crashed here millions of years ago and had nothing else to imitate. Or make them new arrivals who land in a dinosaur theme park or something.
I like think they would be a more interesting robot to watch fight. Since the humanoid form of most of the other transformers are virtually indistinguishable from each other, making vehicle/animal forms that could do battle would make for nice cinema.
My guess is that audience polls will determine what fights we see. If more folks liked the humans vs robot fights, that is what we will see. Since they apparently cut an Optimus vs Barricade fight (either never filmed it or cut it out of the theatrical release) then I bet the filmakers were worried the audience would get bored with too many robot on robot duels.
methos75 07-06-07, 02:09 PM The Dinobots were only stupid in the series, in the comics they were intelligent and were the Autobot equilevent of the Navy seals, Grimlock is also the one who usually leads the Autobots when Prime is unable too.
I hear the next one, Metroplex going to be a aircraft carrier. Hopefully Megatron comes back as Galvatron.
methos75 07-06-07, 02:41 PM Your sure its Metroplex? They already have an Aircraft Carrier Transfomer, Tidalwave. And yes, I hope we get Galvertron, he was so much better than Megs iMO. He was much more evil, and he just loved to whip ass be it autobots or his own guys.
tofana10am 07-06-07, 02:48 PM If I see another movie where someone goes to hotwire a car and pull out pre-stripped wires all set and ready to be touched together, I'm going to flip out! This movie could have been so much better with about 5 minutes of my opinions. Why won't anyone hire me to fix these types of things?
By the way, PCs don't usually interface with 1950s radios, nor do they come pre equipped with text-to-morse translators. Also, I thought that it was really lucky that the Jet fighters and Black Hawk helicoptors had short wave radio receivers on board so that they could hear the Radio-Shack dinosaur radios the down-town squad was using.
No cell phones in a SCIF people!
Alien alpha-numeric characters cannot be extracted from radio signals.
Too bad the "All Spark" didn't fix BumbleBees legs like it rebuilt Frenzy's entire body. If it had, we wouldn't have needed to hotwire the tow truck and we'd never had seen the pre-stripped wires! It all comes full circle.
methos75 07-06-07, 03:01 PM "No cell phones in a SCIF people!"
Sits back and waits for someone to ask what SCIF means.
elvisizer 07-06-07, 03:11 PM If I see another movie where someone goes to hotwire a car and pull out pre-stripped wires all set and ready to be touched together, I'm going to flip out! This movie could have been so much better with about 5 minutes of my opinions. Why won't anyone hire me to fix these types of things?
By the way, PCs don't usually interface with 1950s radios, nor do they come pre equipped with text-to-morse translators. Also, I thought that it was really lucky that the Jet fighters and Black Hawk helicoptors had short wave radio receivers on board so that they could hear the Radio-Shack dinosaur radios the down-town squad was using.
No cell phones in a SCIF people!
Alien alpha-numeric characters cannot be extracted from radio signals.
Too bad the "All Spark" didn't fix BumbleBees legs like it rebuilt Frenzy's entire body. If it had, we wouldn't have needed to hotwire the tow truck and we'd never had seen the pre-stripped wires! It all comes full circle.
pointing out plot holes in a bay movie is like shooting fish in a barrel.
haha its a flippin movie. if all action movies were based on real life, action scene will be like 2secs and everyone will die.
ryoohki 07-06-07, 03:17 PM If I see another movie where someone goes to hotwire a car and pull out pre-stripped wires all set and ready to be touched together, I'm going to flip out! This movie could have been so much better with about 5 minutes of my opinions. Why won't anyone hire me to fix these types of things?
By the way, PCs don't usually interface with 1950s radios, nor do they come pre equipped with text-to-morse translators. Also, I thought that it was really lucky that the Jet fighters and Black Hawk helicoptors had short wave radio receivers on board so that they could hear the Radio-Shack dinosaur radios the down-town squad was using.
No cell phones in a SCIF people!
Alien alpha-numeric characters cannot be extracted from radio signals.
Too bad the "All Spark" didn't fix BumbleBees legs like it rebuilt Frenzy's entire body. If it had, we wouldn't have needed to hotwire the tow truck and we'd never had seen the pre-stripped wires! It all comes full circle.
1fr of all.. it's a TF movie, second of a it's a SCI FI Movie, 3rd of all.. Titanic is FILLED with hundread of ERROR and it's BASED ON A REAL THING!
I Mean.. yeah sure.. i'am pretty sure that all John Mclan does in Die Hard 4 can be real... i mean of course.. the most real scene being the last one with the jet.. now that's beleiveble LOL!
Computer is Movies are always 30 years better than our own.. otherwise the movie would last 10 years and NOTHING would have have happened because RL is boring and slow
5harkology 07-06-07, 05:55 PM "No cell phones in a SCIF people!"
Sits back and waits for someone to ask what SCIF means.
Most SCIF's allow phones without camera's. Depends on the the security level I guess.
methos75 07-06-07, 06:03 PM I work Space Command HQ, and none of them allow cellphones here.
evolver 07-06-07, 06:28 PM Most SCIF's allow phones without camera's. Depends on the the security level I guess.
No cell phone's in SCIFI?! :rolleyes:
I saw a post on TUAW about a service that will remove the camera from the iPhone if anyone's interested.
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/07/04/iresq-will-remove-your-iphones-camera/
Favelle 07-06-07, 08:58 PM So anyone that's seen this........do the trailers show everything, or is there stuff that will blow me away?
hmurchison 07-06-07, 09:31 PM There's some nuggets in there that'll blow you away.
It's a fun romp.
Sarcoptic 07-06-07, 10:51 PM I was kind of confused as to why they hacked off all the decepticons compared to the autobots. In the end the only decepticons left were starscream, barricade, and scorpnik...
edcokpareke 07-06-07, 11:02 PM OH MY GOD!!!
OH MY GOD!!!!!
OH my FREAKIN' Gosh darn!!
TRANSFORMERS SUCKED!.
Jeebus kripes, it was horrible. I mean, where do I begin? The cheesy FAKE military lingo? "I need an F-22 strike package at Kill box 1 - Alpha". The childish cartoony jokes? "My bad". The pointless comedic diversions? "I'm from sector 7". What was with Megatron? Why did he have to declare "I am Megatron!!!!!" when he was awakening? Why did all autobots sound so bloody stereo typical? Why make them talk?? I liked how the decepticons communicated in robot lingo (with subtitles) in the beginning, or how Bumblebee spoke through the radio. That gave it a 'serious movie' feel that was KILLED once all the Autobots showed up. I couldn't shake off the crap at every turn. What was with the cheesy highschool reject scenes? Why did prime sound like a freakin' ******? Why was the secretary of defense such a tool? Why were only 2 army rangers so bad ass?? What happened to the entire US ARMY?? The last minute speech was dreadful.
AGAIN...WHAT WAS WITH THE SECTOR SEVEN CRAP???
Holy moses, this movie was bad. Not just bad bad. But bad bad bad. Yeah...it was THAT bad. Ofcourse these are my opinions, and I realize others would disagree. Infact, my friends thought it was ok (they are girls...figures). The CG and action scenes were good though, I'll give it that.
OH MY GOD!!!
OH MY GOD!!!!!
OH my FREAKIN' Gosh darn!!
TRANSFORMERS SUCKED!.
Jeebus kripes, it was horrible. I mean, where do I begin? The cheesy FAKE military lingo? "I need an F-22 strike package at Kill box 1 - Alpha". The childish cartoony jokes? "My bad". The pointless comedic diversions? "I'm from sector 7". What was with Megatron? Why did he have to declare "I am Megatron!!!!!" when he was awakening? Why did all autobots sound so bloody stereo typical? Why make them talk?? I liked how the decepticons communicated in robot lingo (with subtitles) in the beginning, or how Bumblebee spoke through the radio. That gave it a 'serious movie' feel that was KILLED once all the Autobots showed up. I couldn't shake off the crap at every turn. What was with the cheesy highschool reject scenes? Why did prime sound like a freakin' ******? Why was the secretary of defense such a tool? Why were only 2 army rangers so bad ass?? What happened to the entire US ARMY?? The last minute speech was dreadful.
AGAIN...WHAT WAS WITH THE SECTOR SEVEN CRAP???
Holy moses, this movie was bad. Not just bad bad. But bad bad bad. Yeah...it was THAT bad. Ofcourse these are my opinions, and I realize others would disagree. Infact, my friends thought it was ok (they are girls...figures). The CG and action scenes were good though, I'll give it that.
Note to self: Don't go see movies with edcokpareke - he'll suck the life right out of it.
edcokpareke 07-06-07, 11:09 PM Note to self: Don't go see movies with edcokpareke - he'll suck the life right out of it.
Hehehe. Not sure what you mean, but I sit quietly and keep to myself during movies. I don't ruin it for anyone.
Anyone see some really bad compression during some of the indoor scenes? It looked outright AWFUL.
This movie didn't do much for me. I grew up with the Transformers but wasn't TOO into them. Any part with a Bot was pretty damn cool. Everything else with the humans was bad bad BAD. And I looove Michael Bay flicks. But this one, for some reason, just really annoyed me. It was lame. I didn't care about anything in the movie. The plot? Not a big enough purpose. All Sparks or whatever? Eh...and the storylines, the actors...bland.
But boy, the CGI looked fantastic!
YESSS YESSS YOU GOT IT. All the human stuff was LAAAAYMMMMUUH!!!!!
I need a drink.
JudgeSmails 07-06-07, 11:45 PM I have seen Transformers...and oh was it glorious. Here I am, 7 hours after seeing the film and I am still basking in the glow of robot mayhem. I...I...I just don't know where to begin.
Let's see, this movie had:
- Non-stop action
- Some of the best F/X I have ever seen. Nothing looks fake.
- A really fun story. The most fun I have had at a theater in years. This is what summer movies are all about.
- The movie is funny. Surprisingly so. Tons of one-liners and funny scenes throughout. I laughed out loud numerous times.
- Giant robots kicking the crap out of each other, humans and 90% of LA
- A great cast. All the human roles were well acted. Some great character actors (John Turtorro, Anthony Anderson, Bernie Mac) do a bang-up job also.
- LOUD. Quite possibly the loudest movie I have ever seen. No...Underworld was louder. But it was freakishly loud.
- VTOL Helis, F-22s, C130s and the Air Force kicking ass. I haven't seen a movie where the US Military was shown to have balls and not be portrayed as evil in years. Like Top Gun, Independence Day and Hunt for Red October, the military comes off like the heroes they are and seeing them in action is great.
- Hearing the original voice of Optimus Prime (from the 80s cartoon) say "Autobots...Roll Out!" sent chills through my internal geek.
- A female lead and a female NSA Analyst who may be two of the best looking women on the planet. Girls didn't look like that when I went to high school. Sigh.
- This movie is so un-PC it is a thing a beauty. Some people who can't take a joke are (seriously) calling the movie racist and sexist and jignoistic. Some people also don't deserve to breathe.
The movie isn't perfect. Their are some cheese scenes in the middle and some plot holes (can you say MacGuffin boys and girls?). And of course it is entirely unrealistic. But come on, it's a flipping movie. All in all, the best movie-going experience since the original Matrix. This a movie to see at a packed theater, its a blast when everyone cheers and laughs together.
Oh, and the theater I saw it in showed it in their new all digital DLP theater. Now that's a pretty picture, hot damn.
9/10
lunat1c 07-07-07, 06:11 AM Amazing! My theater had some issues with the focus but it was only noticeable in a few scenes. I can't wait until this comes to disc so we can see how low that LFE gets. There was one scene near the end that literally sent chills throughout my body. I have never heard such accurate bass. The sound just couldn't have been better. I Wish my theater would have had their projector focused right.
RAVEN56706 07-07-07, 11:52 AM OH MY GOD!!!
OH MY GOD!!!!!
OH my FREAKIN' Gosh darn!!
TRANSFORMERS SUCKED!.
Jeebus kripes, it was horrible. I mean, where do I begin? The cheesy FAKE military lingo? "I need an F-22 strike package at Kill box 1 - Alpha". The childish cartoony jokes? "My bad". The pointless comedic diversions? "I'm from sector 7". What was with Megatron? Why did he have to declare "I am Megatron!!!!!" when he was awakening? Why did all autobots sound so bloody stereo typical? Why make them talk?? I liked how the decepticons communicated in robot lingo (with subtitles) in the beginning, or how Bumblebee spoke through the radio. That gave it a 'serious movie' feel that was KILLED once all the Autobots showed up. I couldn't shake off the crap at every turn. What was with the cheesy highschool reject scenes? Why did prime sound like a freakin' ******? Why was the secretary of defense such a tool? Why were only 2 army rangers so bad ass?? What happened to the entire US ARMY?? The last minute speech was dreadful.
AGAIN...WHAT WAS WITH THE SECTOR SEVEN CRAP???
Holy moses, this movie was bad. Not just bad bad. But bad bad bad. Yeah...it was THAT bad. Ofcourse these are my opinions, and I realize others would disagree. Infact, my friends thought it was ok (they are girls...figures). The CG and action scenes were good though, I'll give it that.
hmmmmm...... you must not like any films then... dude... its transformers... did you expect saving private ryan
art vandalay 07-07-07, 12:07 PM Last time i checked rottentomatoes before seeing the movie it was just under 60%, so i was going in expecting a fairly solid movie. I thought the first half of the movie did a good job of setting up the story, and i thought there were some really funny scenes (I dont know why it seemed like i was the only one in the theatre laughing my ass off during the scene when the cops came for the hacker). However, the negatives of the movie just kept on taking me out of the movie (Jesus i hate those Bay slo-mo moments). The story felt smooth in the first half, and then story wise everything just seemed to go out the window. Acting i thought was good for the type of movie it was, and the effects and sounds were fantastic, loved hearing optimus prime speak again. Bottom line, throw out the Baydiation effect, take out the american soldier's storyline and replace it with more autobot dialogue, and have the autobots trying to take the fight AWAY from the humans they are trying to protect (I know the american military suck at taking collateral damage into account, but the autobots dont have to) and you got yourself a more balanced movie. I came to see Transformers, not another attempt to portray the american military in a more positive light. As it is, not a bad flick, but i enjoyed Live Free or Die Hard much more.
methos75 07-07-07, 02:01 PM [QUOTE=art vandalay]Last time i checked rottentomatoes before seeing the and have the autobots trying to take the fight AWAY from the humans they are trying to protect (I know the american military suck at taking collateral damage into account, but the autobots dont have to) and you got yourself a more balanced movie. I came to see Transformers, not another attempt to portray the american military in a more positive light. As it is, not a bad flick, but i enjoyed Live Free or Die Hard much more.
You know I was thinking that also, but after re-watching some G1 last night, well the Autobots kinda of sucked at taking Collateral damage into account also. It seems that every fight that got in the with Deceps ended up in a city, and the battle between the Mega-Transformers like Metroplex and Trypticon always ended up into while ciies getting stomped on.
Slim GoodBooty 07-07-07, 02:16 PM What was with the damn chick? I hate that crap. Did they thing teen-age boys wouldn't go see a movie about giant robots that turn into cars if they didn't have a hot chick in it? All it was missing was a homo erotic volley ball scene (and I thought it was going to happen for a second) for it to be Top Gun.
methos75 07-07-07, 02:20 PM The Chick was a fox
Slim GoodBooty 07-07-07, 02:20 PM The Chick was a fox
And like most chicks...pointless.
Digital2004 07-07-07, 02:29 PM well this movie will again test the home theater systems. some or many will regret nothaving spent more :D
kick ass stuff. Spielberg gave his touch also. this is not just a Bay movie.
while i'm sick of sequels (POT 3, SP3), the sequel to this one, i'm ready for it. but this at the limit of rated R would be nice.... andmore military scenes.
Nics1246 07-07-07, 02:40 PM And like most chicks...pointless.
I dunno bout you but my chick prooves her point every night ;) :D
UCFKevin 07-07-07, 02:55 PM I'm sure your chick isn't from a cheap little trailer park with an absentee dad and a supermodel body, though. What a horrible, HORRIBLE cliche. Are there any cliches they DIDN'T use?
There is room in this world for Michael Bay movies and Transformers movies. I just personally feel mixing the two is a mistake. They do not mesh well. You're supposed to care about the Transformers. Not ONLY think, "Wow, they look cool!" Yet that seemed to be all they set out to do.
There is room in this world for Michael Bay movies and Transformers movies. I just personally feel mixing the two is a mistake. They do not mesh well. You're supposed to care about the Transformers. Not ONLY think, "Wow, they look cool!" Yet that seemed to be all they set out to do.
I think you're letting the emotional involvement you had with the Transformers as a child cloud your judgement about what the Transformers were/are. They are a kickass way to sell toys, that's it, nothing else. It's not Mcbeth hell it's not even Harry Potter. It's a toy commercial, and making more out of it than it is deals a larger blow to the Transformers mythos than Michael Bay ever could.
Even the 1986 movie was really nothing more than an extended intro to the new toy line no matter how much we all cried when Prime died :(.
Mixing Michael Bay and Pearl Harbor was a mistake, Bay and a toy commercial (didn't he get his start in commercials) was perfection. I went in expecting a really good Hamburger not Lobster Thermadore, and not only was it a good burger but they put extra cheese on it at no extra charge;).
This movie is pure, unadulterated entertainment. I had a blast watching it. Half the time I was laughing and the other half of the time I had a grin from ear to ear at all the awesomeness on screen.
This will be the pinnacle of high def discs. There are shots in this movie that I swear are worth over a million dollars by themselves.
http://www.imageviper.com/displayimage/90250/0/Prime2.jpg
Courtesy of Jason Cross from wired.com.
I just saw it >>>
I agree this will be an outstanding demo for your home theater.
The movie story/ plot/ action is kind of modern T2. Special effects are top notch and close to seamless.
Lots of fun, and the "chick" is certainly not "pointless" :p
evolver 07-08-07, 07:50 PM (didn't he get his start in commercials)
Yes, he did, and it still shows. :mad: Although I guess I can't say that for Transformers since I haven't seen it yet. Should be good FX pr0n if nothing else. :D
edcokpareke 07-08-07, 07:54 PM I just saw it >>>
I agree this will be an outstanding demo for your home theater.
The movie story/ plot/ action is kind of modern T2. Special effects are top notch and close to seamless.
Lots of fun, and the "chick" is certainly not "pointless" :p
This movie is pure, unadulterated entertainment. I had a blast watching it. Half the time I was laughing and the other half of the time I had a grin from ear to ear at all the awesomeness on screen.
This will be the pinnacle of high def discs. There are shots in this movie that I swear are worth over a million dollars by themselves.
Is it just me, or shouldn't a movie make sense? I mean, you guys come here singing it's praises with references to the action and how "cool" it was. That's all well and good...I doubt you'll find anyone who doesn't like the CG effects and the action stuff.
But....doesn't it bother you just a 'tad' bit that the 2 soldiers that survived the initial attack at the base in the beginning were so freakin' bad ass, they knew all about weaponry (they knew which guns did what), chemistry (what round melts what armor), air support (calling in all sorts of aircraft) etc. Didn't it bother you that the van that the "chick" hotwired already had it's wires cut? Doesn't it bother you that all those 30 ft tall robots are walking around a yard in the suburbs and NO ONE SEES THEM??? Did it bother you that a stupid organisation with a name like "Sector 7" existed without the knowledge of the secretary of defense? I could go on and on and on all day and all night about silly plot holes that completely killed it for me.
Sector 7??? SECTOR FREAKING SEVEN??? What the hell kind of STUPID name is that?
Ok, ok, you liked it...fine. It's your opinion. But damn, you must have taken off your perverbial "thinking cap" as you walked into the theater to ignore all the MILE WIDE holes in that stupid abhoration of a movie.
charles0424 07-08-07, 08:03 PM I may be late but I had just got back from the theaters and after viewing the movie I must say it was awesome. I only had one problem but this could have been the theater I was in. I noticed the sound was excellent in terms of panning between channels and going from back to fourth but there was almost NO BASS!!! I was going in expected to be BLOWN away , like my ears would be ringing but no. Instead I left the theater telling myself "wow this will shake every single picture in my house when this comes out on HD DVD"
Again it could have been the theater but it was not loud at all but it still sounded great.
Overall great movie and great experiance.
Slim GoodBooty 07-08-07, 08:07 PM Is it just me, or shouldn't a movie make sense? I mean, you guys come here singing it's praises with references to the action and how "cool" it was. That's all well and good...I doubt you'll find anyone who doesn't like the CG effects and the action stuff.
But....doesn't it bother you just a 'tad' bit that the 2 soldiers that survived the initial attack at the base in the beginning were so freakin' bad ass, they knew all about weaponry (they knew which guns did what), chemistry (what round melts what armor), air support (calling in all sorts of aircraft) etc. Didn't it bother you that the van that the "chick" hotwired already had it's wires cut? Doesn't it bother you that all those 30 ft tall robots are walking around a yard in the suburbs and NO ONE SEES THEM??? Did it bother you that a stupid organisation with a name like "Sector 7" existed without the knowledge of the secretary of defense? I could go on and on and on all day and all night about silly plot holes that completely killed it for me.
Sector 7??? SECTOR FREAKING SEVEN??? What the hell kind of STUPID name is that?
Ok, ok, you liked it...fine. It's your opinion. But damn, you must have taken off your perverbial "thinking cap" as you walked into the theater to ignore all the MILE WIDE holes in that stupid abhoration of a movie.
I don't get it. Did the Sector 7 thing bug you?
tofana10am 07-08-07, 08:07 PM Ok, ok, you liked it...fine. It's your opinion. But damn, you must have taken off your perverbial "thinking cap" as you walked into the theater to ignore all the MILE WIDE holes in that stupid abhoration of a movie.
Amen to that! My biggest complaint is that all these mile wide holes could have been fixed with very minor tweaks costing at most 5 minutes of thought. Why didn't someones say, "hey, how about we show the chick reaching under the tow-truck dash, cut to a giant robot battle for a few seconds, and then back to her driving the truck away" we all know that she has a juvie record for steeling cars. Does her actually making sparks with pre-stripped wires add anything to the experience? NO! In fact it does the exact opposite! It takes me out of the movie by showing something completely stupid.
Really dumb things ruined this movie for me. Details are the name of the game. If you're not sure about the details "Mr. Bay" leave them out and try something called allusion!
GoCheese 07-08-07, 08:10 PM Is it just me, or shouldn't a movie make sense? I mean, you guys come here singing it's praises with references to the action and how "cool" it was. That's all well and good...I doubt you'll find anyone who doesn't like the CG effects and the action stuff.
But....doesn't it bother you just a 'tad' bit that the 2 soldiers that survived the initial attack at the base in the beginning were so freakin' bad ass, they knew all about weaponry (they knew which guns did what), chemistry (what round melts what armor), air support (calling in all sorts of aircraft) etc. Didn't it bother you that the van that the "chick" hotwired already had it's wires cut? Doesn't it bother you that all those 30 ft tall robots are walking around a yard in the suburbs and NO ONE SEES THEM??? Did it bother you that a stupid organisation with a name like "Sector 7" existed without the knowledge of the secretary of defense? I could go on and on and on all day and all night about silly plot holes that completely killed it for me.
Sector 7??? SECTOR FREAKING SEVEN??? What the hell kind of STUPID name is that?
Ok, ok, you liked it...fine. It's your opinion. But damn, you must have taken off your perverbial "thinking cap" as you walked into the theater to ignore all the MILE WIDE holes in that stupid abhoration of a movie.
Dude, seriously chill, it is what it is, big fun and entertainment. You are acting like when you heard the name Transformers was being made into a movie you were expecting a remake of Schindler's List starring R2 D2 and Twiggy from Buck Rogers.
edcokpareke:
It's not just you, this movie has plenty of holes. I didn't go see it for the story. I was expecting the story to be pure cheese, and I was actually impressed. All your points are valid, but that doesn't mean that it isn't fun. It's a TOP TIER summer pop-corn flick. PLAIN AND SIMPLE
You DID get the goof on the whole Sector 7 thing, riiiiiiiiight?
If you don't want to see sweet CGI and tons of non-stop action, then go check out something else.
FWIW: I took my 9 year-old to it. As far as the PG-13 rating, it definitely leans toward PG. No gore, nothing scary or too intense. I noticed they withheld the rating forever. I bet it was on the fence for PG/ PG-13
rolltide1017 07-08-07, 08:39 PM Some people, for some reason, just expect way too much from a Michael Bay film. You would think they would be use to his poorly written, plot hole ridden scripts by now. You don't go into a Bay movie expecting anything more then a fun ride with big explosions and, that is exactly what Transformers is. It's the first movie in a long time to bring the kid in me out again and I loved it. Can't wait to see it again and buy it on HD/BD.
I'm also kinda wanting some of the toys again and it's been a long, long time since a movie grabbed me enough to buy it's toys. Anyone else seen the Optimus Prime Mr. Potato head (called Optimash Prime on the box!). It looks great and I have to get one soon.
Jayderek 07-08-07, 08:43 PM But damn, you must have taken off your perverbial "thinking cap" as you walked into the theater to ignore all the MILE WIDE holes in that stupid abhoration of a movie.
dude, that's the whole point of this movie. I didn't go into expecting a brilliant sci-fi flick, did you? Seriously? Did you?
The whole concept of transformers is ridiculous anyways....
...FAR too many people are going to 'George Lucas raped my childhood' lengths on this...
dude, that's the whole point of this movie. I didn't go into expecting a brilliant sci-fi flick, did you? Seriously? Did you?
The whole concept of transformers is ridiculous anyways....
...FAR too many people are going to 'George Lucas raped my childhood' lengths on this...
What I don't get is how someone can complain about things that don't "make sense", in a movie that's based around the concept of giant transforming robots from space.
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