Got a weird slow problem with my PS3's network speed -- both web browser and store.

In the PS3 web browser I tried speed tests through speakeasy.net/speedtest. Basically the download rate doesn't move constantly upwards, instead it jumps to 700k, then falls to 500k, then 800k then 600k, then it settles around 1200k download. I tried immediately afterwards on my laptop, and had a smooth climb all the way to 7000+mb download.

I have Comcast 8mb down/786k up. I've tried the PS3 through wired and wireless (802.11g WPA) and get the same slow results. The laptop got excellent download speeds using its wireless (802.11g wpa). Desktop on the same LAN gets the same fast speeds as the laptop. Even my Wii gets 3mbit+ on the same browser tests.

Any thoughts? This is really frustrating.

I wouldn't put much stock in the reporting from Speakeasy with the PS3.

I ran several tests on my PS3 and PC wired, and was pulling similar speeds on the upload, but getting about 22k mb (yes, 22k) from the PS3 on download and about 18k mb from my PC.

When I first got my service hooked up, I was getting about 6-8k with my PC.

I think it has something to do with the way the PS3 handles applets. Also, my work has way more bandwidth than my home network, yet I get about 16-20k mb on Speakeasy.

My Speakeasy tests on the PS3 are a consistent 30/4.6. My PS3 is wired to a Motorola NIM100 (MoCA), which is networked via coax to the Actiontec router in my office.

Much of Florida is experiencing higher latency due to congestion on some routing points in Atlanta. It is possible that your PCs support RWIN scaling (RFC1323) while the PS3 does not. If your PS3 does not, that would make its throughput highly sensitive to latency conditions at a given instant.

Thanks for the replies. Seems like I'm out of luck for a fix. No way to change the receive window (rwin) for the ps3 is there? I could install Linux on the ps3 and do the same tests right? In theory the speeds should match the other computers on the LAN.

Just sucks how I read some people download off the PSN super fast. Took me about 90min to get the 300mb stardust today. About 50k/sec. Which is how slow it is even on non-release thursdays.

Would it be helpful for me to upload this video I have showing the weird ps3 download rate?

Thanks for the replies. Seems like I'm out of luck for a fix. No way to change the receive window (rwin) for the ps3 is there? I could install Linux on the ps3 and do the same tests right? In theory the speeds should match the other computers on the LAN.You should be able to confirm whether the PS3 supports RWIN scaling at this link:

http://www.speedguide.net/sg_tools.php

Choose TCP/IP Analyzer. Compare the results on your PC and PS3.

It should state the current TCP Receive Window (RWIN) as well as the Unscaled TCP Review Window. Did you see any difference between your PC and the PS3? What does it say under bandwidth * delay product on the PS3?

You should not have such slow download speeds with the ps3..wired or wireless. How old is your ps3? Can you take it back and get another?

Just so you know your not alone. I have the same problem with the PS3 and download speeds. I don't know if I can trust the speed test sites since the PS3 browser can be causing the issue. But last November I noticed some speed issues also. So I timed downloads of similar size files of the PS3 vs Xbox vs PC and the PS3 was noticeably slower. I also tried downloads with wireless vs wired and experienced the same problem.

So now when I'm downloading a file I just do the background download and if it's late I will just shut down the TV and receiver and check the file out the following day.

Download speeds on the Wii and Xbox seem fine, but the PS3 is slow slow slow.

http://www.speedguide.net/sg_tools.php

Choose TCP/IP Analyzer. Compare the results on your PC and PS3.

Works on the powerbook, but the PS3 won't load the analyzer.php page -- the tcp/ip analyzer link at the top. Have you ever tried it on yours?

You should not have such slow download speeds with the ps3..wired or wireless. How old is your ps3? Can you take it back and get another?

Nope, I got mine in late December.

I suppose I could try taking the ps3 down to work and trying speed tests to see if there is a difference. Maybe its a network issue like bfdtv said.

The PS3 browser is notoriously slow with both java and flash (what most speed test use). That said, I get pretty consistant results with my PS3 vs what I get on a PC on the same network (22-27 megabits down, 1500k upload, with Comcast 6MB+Power Boost).

(100mbit wired LAN)

The PS3 browser is notoriously slow with both java and flash (what most speed test use). That said, I get pretty consistant results with my PS3 vs what I get on a PC on the same network (22-27 megabits down, 1500k upload, with Comcast 6MB+Power Boost).

So you got a 22 megabit down result on the speed test on the ps3?

Got a weird slow problem with my PS3's network speed -- both web browser and store.

In the PS3 web browser I tried speed tests through speakeasy.net/speedtest. Basically the download rate doesn't move constantly upwards, instead it jumps to 700k, then falls to 500k, then 800k then 600k, then it settles around 1200k download. I tried immediately afterwards on my laptop, and had a smooth climb all the way to 7000+mb download.

I have Comcast 8mb down/786k up. I've tried the PS3 through wired and wireless (802.11g WPA) and get the same slow results. The laptop got excellent download speeds using its wireless (802.11g wpa). Desktop on the same LAN gets the same fast speeds as the laptop. Even my Wii gets 3mbit+ on the same browser tests.

Any thoughts? This is really frustrating.

I went through the same thing... you're using wireless right? Check out my thread for my fix:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=861174

I posted the short video of the ps3 doing the speed test last night. Sorry for the bad quality, shot really quick off a digital camera, but you'll clearly see what's going on.


View at youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DguhAtHOR0)


I went through the same thing... you're using wireless right? Check out my thread for my fix:

Currently I'm through wireless, but I get the same exact results with wired. Thanks I'll see if your fix helps and let you know.

I posted the short video of the ps3 doing the speed test last night. Sorry for the bad quality, shot really quick off a digital camera, but you'll clearly see what's going on.


View at youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DguhAtHOR0)




Currently I'm through wireless, but I get the same exact results with wired. Thanks I'll see if your fix helps and let you know.

Did you turn off wireless once you pluged it into an ethernet port? Make sure your wireless is turned off.

My test looked EXACTLY like yours when I went wireless. Once I wired everything (with my wireless bridge) my speeds were over 8 times faster.

The ethernet has always been plugged in. I switched over to wireless last night to see if it was any better and got the same results. Switched back to wired this morning and the speedtest was a tad faster (less network congestion at 7am est) but still real slow compared to every other device on my lan.

I'll try some router things this evening when I get home.

One thing that may be the culprit... we are both using the DD-WRT firmware on our routers. I have a regular WRT54G Linksys router. I'm going to see if I can borrow an old non-wireless router to see if that changes anything. I'll post my findings.

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 06.29.2007 07:30
IP address: 66.8.xxx.xx

TCP options string: 020405b401010402
MSS: 1460
MTU: 1500
TCP Window: 65535 (NOT multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 0
Unscaled RWIN : 65535
Reccomended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920
BDP limit (200ms): 2621kbps (328KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 1049kbps (131KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 113
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)



Exactly the same between PS3 & PC, except for the ps3, TTL is 48, timestamps is ON, SACKs is OFF,

Speed test (PC)

4802 kbps down (~4.8Mbps, 586 KB/s) ↓
365 kbps up (~0.37 Mbps, 45 KB/s) ↑

Speed test (PS3)

4194 kbps down (~4.19 Mbps, 512 KB/s) ↓
365 kbps up (~0.37 Mbps, 45 KB/s) ↑




Anyone know how I can get my upload speed faster? Or is it capped by my provider. I know when I torrent, the max rate I usally can get is only around 50 kbps.

Got a weird slow problem with my PS3's network speed -- both web browser and store.

In the PS3 web browser I tried speed tests through speakeasy.net/speedtest. Basically the download rate doesn't move constantly upwards, instead it jumps to 700k, then falls to 500k, then 800k then 600k, then it settles around 1200k download. I tried immediately afterwards on my laptop, and had a smooth climb all the way to 7000+mb download.

I have Comcast 8mb down/786k up. I've tried the PS3 through wired and wireless (802.11g WPA) and get the same slow results. The laptop got excellent download speeds using its wireless (802.11g wpa). Desktop on the same LAN gets the same fast speeds as the laptop. Even my Wii gets 3mbit+ on the same browser tests.

Any thoughts? This is really frustrating.


Enabled port forwarding? Thinking about opening up your ps3 via DMZ?

The ethernet has always been plugged in. I switched over to wireless last night to see if it was any better and got the same results. Switched back to wired this morning and the speedtest was a tad faster (less network congestion at 7am est) but still real slow compared to every other device on my lan.

I'll try some router things this evening when I get home.

One thing that may be the culprit... we are both using the DD-WRT firmware on our routers. I have a regular WRT54G Linksys router. I'm going to see if I can borrow an old non-wireless router to see if that changes anything. I'll post my findings.

I think you missed a post in my thread. I solved the problem by using a wired connection. I no longer have slow downloads.

caenus... if it makes you feel better, you and I are in the exact same boat. :( I don't know why, but I get very inconsistent and mostly slow downloads via PS3 using wired. PC, Mac, Xbox, Wii and DS all get great speeds on the same network (Comcast with 6down 386up). :confused:

I hope you find a solution... for both of us! :D

I think you missed a post in my thread. I solved the problem by using a wired connection. I no longer have slow downloads.

I saw it, but unfortunately switching back to wired (I have always used wired), didn't improve anything.

caenus... if it makes you feel better, you and I are in the exact same boat. I don't know why, but I get very inconsistent and mostly slow downloads via PS3 using wired. PC, Mac, Xbox, Wii and DS all get great speeds on the same network (Comcast with 6down 386up).

If I figure out anything I'll definitely let you know. I have Comcast 8mb/768 (with powerboost, hehe)

Anyone know how I can get my upload speed faster? Or is it capped by my provider. I know when I torrent, the max rate I usally can get is only around 50 kbps.

You are probably capped at that speed by your provider. I am capped at the 768k upload they advertise with Comcast.

Enabled port forwarding? Thinking about opening up your ps3 via DMZ?

I have UPNP enabled on the router and did some port forwarding a few months back I found in other threads. My NAT is shown as Type 2.

It's weird how last night the ps3 wouldn't load the speedguide.net analzyer page. I'll try it again tonight.

Speed test (PC)

4802 kbps down (~4.8Mbps, 586 KB/s) ↓
365 kbps up (~0.37 Mbps, 45 KB/s) ↑

Speed test (PS3)

4194 kbps down (~4.19 Mbps, 512 KB/s) ↓
365 kbps up (~0.37 Mbps, 45 KB/s) ↑




Anyone know how I can get my upload speed faster? Or is it capped by my provider. I know when I torrent, the max rate I usally can get is only around 50 kbps.
It's capped by your provider. They want to avoid people setting up file servers and congesting bandwidth.

There are supposed ways to hack your modem to bypass the limiter. However, your ISP considers this as theft, I believe.

So you got a 22 megabit down result on the speed test on the ps3?Or, close to it. It really doesn't concern me that much since it's only that fast for the first few seconds of large files, then it falls back to 6Mb. So if I get 17-18Mb on the flash download test, that's pretty much the same thing. (or 1200 vs 1500 on the upload test).

Or, close to it. It really doesn't concern me that much since it's only that fast for the first few seconds of large files, then it falls back to 6Mb. So if I get 17-18Mb on the flash download test, that's pretty much the same thing. (or 1200 vs 1500 on the upload test).

At least it shows that sudden surge on the ps3, mine tries to slowly sneak up on 1000-1200. On my PC it does the surge at the beginning too (powerboost) and settles back down.

So it seems that the ps3 browser shouldn't be skewing the speed test results if yours shows high numbers...even briefly.

You guys have badly configured wireless routers or internet connections.

I just got cable about a month ago. I get 6800k down and 365k up on speakeasy on both PS3 and PC. Exacly the same.

I have a Dlink 784.

I have my PS3 in the DMZ

I download superstardust HD in less than 5 mins
I download the firmware 1.82 in less than 3 mins
I download one of the 150meg movie trailers, the invasion in less than 3 mins.

The PSN store is fast.
The downloads are fast.
Web browsing is fast.


Now i have had the same slowness problems you guys have had in the past...but i switched to cable from dsl and totally configured my wireless router to the best settings and i am solid now. My laptop and desktop pc have the same speed as my PS3. I avg about 865k per second download speed.

I have a Dlink 784.

I have my PS3 in the DMZ



I'm wired into a dlink router also. How do you put the PS3 into the DMZ? :confused:

I'm wired into a dlink router also. How do you put the PS3 into the DMZ? :confused:

Not sure on your router. It's not a setting on your PS3... it's a setting in your router. If you assign your PS3 a static IP you can put that IP into DMZ. DMZ opens everything up so there's nothing being blocked from your PS3 to the internet. It's not safe for a PC... but it should be fine for your PS3.

At least it shows that sudden surge on the ps3, mine tries to slowly sneak up on 1000-1200. On my PC it does the surge at the beginning too (powerboost) and settles back down.

So it seems that the ps3 browser shouldn't be skewing the speed test results if yours shows high numbers...even briefly.

Hey Caenus...

I was just messing with the PS3's network setup and instead of using the default "easy" method, I stepped through and used all the defaults except I set UPnP to off (or disable, I forget which).

That seemed to really help on my end - I'm getting much more normal and reliable speeds now. Give it a try and report back.

Some interesting findings...

Tried a netgear mp614 (no wireless) we had lying around at work. My wired connection in the speed tests went up a little, up to like 1700k download. I swapped back to my original router (linksys wrt54g w/ dd-wrt) and it actually spiked at 4000 and settled back to 2000.

I was just messing with the PS3's network setup and instead of using the default "easy" method, I stepped through and used all the defaults except I set UPnP to off (or disable, I forget which).

I just tried what daverj suggested, turned off upnp, and now the speeds are MUCH better. It peaked around 8000 and settled back to 5000. Tried downloading some trailers off the store and they were going real fast, by my estimates of watching the megs tick off, I was getting anywhere from 300-500k/sec or 2400-4000kbit/sec. Amazing when you are so used to it being slow. Good find daverj!

Do we need UPNP? Or can we just leave certain ports open through port forwarding on the router?

Do we need UPNP? Or can we just leave certain ports open through port forwarding on the router?

No... you don't need it. The best thing to do is like you said, use port forwarding to open the ports the PS3 needs.

Just ran the Speakeasy test since I was working on something else with the browser.

5019 kbps down, 506 up

Rogers cable internet, Dlink "B" wireless router.

The PS3 browser is notoriously slow with both java and flash (what most speed test use). That said, I get pretty consistant results with my PS3 vs what I get on a PC on the same network (22-27 megabits down, 1500k upload, with Comcast 6MB+Power Boost).

(100mbit wired LAN)



Mega means 1,000,000.. So you download 22,000,000 bits a second on a 6MB connection? Maybe my math is wrong but that's like a 25MB connection you have.

Mega means 1,000,000.. So you download 22,000,000 bits a second on a 6MB connection? Maybe my math is wrong but that's like a 25MB connection you have.You missed the "Power Boost."

"Power Boost" is the term Comcast (and some other providers) use to refer to a temporary boost in throughput. For example, in many Comcast service areas, throughput will jump to 35Mbps for the first ten megabytes of a connection. After that ten megabytes is up, you're back to 6Mbps capped throughput.

Of course, you need a router that can sustain 30+Mbps speed to get the full benefit from "Power Boost." Many popular 802.11g routers max out at 19-22Mbps.

Yes it's about 30 megabits max. I've seen results of 28-29, at least on the PC.

I just tested it right now, after a few tries I got 22Mb/1500 on both the PC and PS3. It does depend on how busy the test site is.

Do we need UPNP? Or can we just leave certain ports open through port forwarding on the router?I need UPNP for the media server, but you shouldn't need it for web browsing or online gaming.

The PSN store is fast.
The downloads are fast.
Web browsing is fast.Sometimes.

Other times, the PSN store is slow, downloads hang or crash, and you get kicked off of PSN (signed out).

Some times it even tells me the ethernet cable has come unplugged... (it hasn't.)

I need UPNP for the media server, but you shouldn't need it for web browsing or online gaming.

Is that your media server setup or in general? I'm using Nero Mediahome and haven't had any issues (i think) with the disabled UPNP on the ps3.

I just tested it right now, after a few tries I got 22Mb/1500 on both the PC and PS3. It does depend on how busy the test site is.

Are you using the speakeasy speedtest site? Since I did the few changes I've occasionally seen my results go up to 8mbit download off a couple of the servers on speakeasy. My PSN downloads have been much faster, but after a few minutes some appear to stop or slow down. I'm guessing that has more to do with Comcast in the area + PSN congestion.

My PSN downloads have been much faster, but after a few minutes some appear to stop or slow down. I'm guessing that has more to do with Comcast in the area + PSN congestion.

I've noticed that too. :( Comcast here also.

...but this doesn't happen with everything else in the house (PCs and Macs, 360, etc.). :confused:

I realize our situation and set-up differs from those in this thread...but here goes:

cable internet and netgear 814 b router; wireless works fine for--

a. Nintendo Wii
b. Nintendo DS
c. Three different Toshiba Windows XP SP2 laptops
d. Two different iMac G4s
e. One Powerbook running OS9

The wired portion of this router works fine for:

a. a networked Dell laser printer
b. an NAS hard disk

72 hours ago the lower price of the 60GB PS3 enticed us to try out what my daughter calls "The Enemy"...the graphics are great...the interface is snazzy...and we're happy in every respect but one--the download speeds, wirelessly and wired, are slow...both with the browser and just with the Sony downloads (the first thing I did was upgrade the firmware).

I've looked at a lot of links and hints: is there a quick fix?

I've read about not broadcasting the SSID...now at this thread about UPNP.

I'm sure Sony WANTS the download feature to work, right? Don't they want to sell us stuff?

The ps3 browser stinks so you are going to see slow page loads with that. Did you try changing wireless channels yet to see if your speeds might increase by using another channel?

I have not yet tried changing the channel. I'll put that on the list and try it in the morning. Hopefully it will work! Are there previous threads/posts to that effect?

I know using the browser at the Speakeasy Speed Test (http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/) I seem to get locked into around 3,000kbps download from the closest server when on my PC I can get 13,309. :confused: