Hello everyone -

I am interested to see your thoughts on the quality of the scaler for this new onkyo receiver coming out soon.

You can find the full specs at http://www.productwiki.com/onkyo-tx-sr875/, but apparently the video scaler in the receiver is a "# HQV Reon-VX Video Processing and NSV Precision Video"

Now that means very little to me, but perhaps some of you videophiles can help me out. Now the next logical question would be "what are you feeding it?" Here is my current video set-up:

Sony KDL46XBR2
RCN digital cable
Xbox 360
Nintendo Wii
PS3 (used as blu-ray player)

Now I have always wanted to get a separate video processor, but I will wait until i can upgrade my entire theater for that. This would be a nice filler until then, which would provide video switching as well as hopefully an improvement over the built in scaler in the tv, as well as an improvement in sound.

So any help is much appreciated. Cheers!

Until it ships, nobody knows how well Onkyo will do with the implementation.

If they do it right, it could be very good. It will be interesting to see whether it passes all SD and HD HQV tests, as well as the tests for chroma and luma output (http://www.w6rz.net/).

is there anyone out there that has any idea on when will the unit be arriving in u.s.

interesting, but as always I'm skeptical regarding the featureset that can go into a general purpose receiver. I guess we'll wait and see.

Eventually someone has to get it right...

interesting, but as always I'm skeptical regarding the featureset that can go into a general purpose receiver. I guess we'll wait and see.

Eventually someone has to get it right...They are also offering a preamp version of the receiver called the Integra DTR-9.8 for $1600 MSRP (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10705157&&#post10705157). It is basically the Onkyo 905 without the amp section or streaming audio. It retains the Silicon Optix ReonVX, TrueHD and DTS-HD MA decoding, Burr-Brown PCM1796 DACs, Audyssey MultiEQ XT (8-position), HD Radio tuner, 4x HDMI 1.3 inputs with 2x HDMI 1.3 outputs, etc, but adds balanced connections and I.P. control.

More information in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10669468&&#post10669468).

Yeah I agree - I swore that i'd never buy a receiver again and instead go with separates, but this does look appealing since it includes a scaler as well (I'm really looking for an improvement in SD content on my XBR2....)

I'll be interested to see how this all pans out.

On a side note are there any other AV receivers out there with a high quality scaler? Since I have a 1080p display, id only be interested in something that scales to 1080p very well (especially from SD material).

I'm not interested in dropping the money for a VP50 at this point in time

is there anyone out there that has any idea on when will the unit be arriving in u.s.
The 875 should be shipping by the middle of this month (July), and the 905 should start shipping in August.

I am going to wait for reviews before I buy... but if all goes well, the 905 will be sitting in my living room by Christmas!

On a side note are there any other AV receivers out there with a high quality scaler? Since I have a 1080p display, id only be interested in something that scales to 1080p very well (especially from SD material).There are a few A/V processors with high quality video processing, but the Onkyo is the first under $3000.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=133

"The Reon is not much different than the Realta. Silicon Optix has scaled down its performance in some areas, but most of these areas will not impact the image quality much. The Realta was the first single chip video processing solution that I know of to handle mixed cadences that are rare, such as 8:8 and 3:2:2:3:2. While these cadences can appear in real world software, they are uncommon. The Reon drops support for these cadences but retains most of the other features of the Realta chip. This includes support for 3:2 and 2:2 cadences as well as the Hollywood Quality Video (HQV) video enhancement tools such as motion adaptive noise reduction and detail enhancement.

What this means for SD DVD playback is that you’ll get top of the line de-interlacing and scaling performance that is in line with some of the best DVD players on the market which cost a lot more. It also means that you can upscale DVDs to 720p, 1080i, and 1080p via HDMI."

So, it might be worth the extra cost.

for $600 more you get a better scaler/deinterlacer than the 805, plus all the extra watts, etc.

Compared to spending $2500 on a seperate video processor with a realta chip? Even if it isn't quite as good, its certaintly hard to justify the extra $2000 on a seperate processor.

It will be interesting to find out. The 805 was on the top of my list, but the more I think about the 875...the more I'm thinking about waiting.

interesting, but as always I'm skeptical regarding the featureset that can go into a general purpose receiver. I guess we'll wait and see.

Eventually someone has to get it right...

Isn't the Anthem D2 any good? :confused:

Isn't the Anthem D2 any good? :confused:
Very good, apparently. But it is ~$6k MSRP.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=133

"The Reon is not much different than the Realta. Silicon Optix has scaled down its performance in some areas, but most of these areas will not impact the image quality much. The Realta was the first single chip video processing solution that I know of to handle mixed cadences that are rare, such as 8:8 and 3:2:2:3:2. While these cadences can appear in real world software, they are uncommon. The Reon drops support for these cadences but retains most of the other features of the Realta chip. This includes support for 3:2 and 2:2 cadences as well as the Hollywood Quality Video (HQV) video enhancement tools such as motion adaptive noise reduction and detail enhancement.

What this means for SD DVD playback is that you’ll get top of the line de-interlacing and scaling performance that is in line with some of the best DVD players on the market which cost a lot more. It also means that you can upscale DVDs to 720p, 1080i, and 1080p via HDMI."

That is very interesting - thanks for the update. I'm looking forward to see how this receiver performs... hopefully some reviews will be out there in a few weeks

So, it might be worth the extra cost.

for $600 more you get a better scaler/deinterlacer than the 805, plus all the extra watts, etc.

Compared to spending $2500 on a seperate video processor with a realta chip? Even if it isn't quite as good, its certaintly hard to justify the extra $2000 on a seperate processor.

It will be interesting to find out. The 805 was on the top of my list, but the more I think about the 875...the more I'm thinking about waiting.


Thanks for the update - I'm really looking forward to seeing some reviews... hopefully in a few weeks or so

I have the same set as you, TopRock03 (46XB2). I just ordered the Onkyo TX-SR875S. It should be here Tuesday. I think the upscaling capability is what really sold me (along with having 4 HDMI ports and sound decoding for pretty much anything out there).

I was in the 875 pre-order boat, but am thinking of jumping ship to a standalone processor after reading about the problems encountered by the two early adopters.

At that price point, the VP30 is looking like an increasingly viable alternative for scaling (the audio features of the 875 aren't very important to me).

So, should I jump back to the 875 boat while the pre-order price window is still open or will I be more than happy with the VP-30's SD-DVD upscaling?

Foofoobar:

What standalone processor / unit are you thinking of? Where did you see the problems with the 875?

Thanks.

I was in the 875 pre-order boat, but am thinking of jumping ship to a standalone processor after reading about the problems encountered by the two early adopters.

At that price point, the VP30 is looking like an increasingly viable alternative for scaling (the audio features of the 875 aren't very important to me).

So, should I jump back to the 875 boat while the pre-order price window is still open or will I be more than happy with the VP-30's SD-DVD upscaling?
Stay with the 875, the Reon should be every bit as good as the VP30 for SD-DVD.

Stay with the 875, the Reon should be every bit as good as the VP30 for SD-DVD.
Advice taken -- I was one of the lucky few managed to get the the 875 and have been very happy with it so far.

Initial impressions are here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11171966&&#post11171966

Hi All,

After reading all the threads regarding the 905 and 875. I decided to order the Onkyo 875 instead of the soon release Denon AR. Most of the online company, either out of stock or MSRP price $1700. After spent hours and hours on the Internet I found the best deal for the 875 is $1,249 with $10 internet coupon for sign up, the total price is $1,239 included free shipping. Since this is my initial thread for the forum, I'm not sure if I can post the company name or the link. I should have my AR by the end of this week, could not wait!!!! :D

I find that the information provided by this thread was extremely useful and I am grateful for all participant with my decision to go with 875. I think the 875 is a marvelous piece of gear and I have no regrets about my purchase.

Excellent info on this thread. I like the idea about the Integra Pream Pro. I already have 3 Onkyo M504's and all I need is the prePro for less than the 905.

Hi All,
I am going to upgrade my ampli to Onkyo 805... but after reading many threads regarding the 875, I have some doubts...
At the moment I have a dvdo IScanHD+ (with SDI dvd player) and a 720p video projector which I'd like to upgrade to 1080p in the near future... so will the 875 do scaling/de-interlacing as good as than my dvdo? Could be a good choice to pay a little more for the 875?

Thanks for your help.

u know after browsing through the 875 thread, it just confirmed one more time I still need a video processor. In the 875, deinterlacing/scaling setting is global. No per input per resolution. Output is also global. No 4:3 pillar box. etc. This thing alone is already a deal breaker for me. Haven't even come to the video performance itself.

Looks like the current state of AV receivers is just that, still a receiver, with some VP functions thrown in as a spice. For serious video buffs, what's on offer is just too immature. (alright with exceptions like D2.. before u anthem fans jump at me...)

HQV Reon vs. nVidia PureVideo and MCE

How does PureVideo's deinterlacing and MCE's SD upscaling/smoothing compare to the Reon?

I am using a home-built media center to play SD and DVD's on my 1080p Westinghouse. I have been very impressed with both. I tried using ffdshow with all the custom settings, but saw only marginal improvement over PureVideo.
SD on the Westy looks pretty bad...but through MCE it is very improved. I also like MCE's ability to stretch the edges to get rid of the black bars. I would hate to lose this with an Onkyo.

Any thought appreciated.
Thanks.

Hi All,

After reading all the threads regarding the 905 and 875. I decided to order the Onkyo 875 instead of the soon release Denon AR. Most of the online company, either out of stock or MSRP price $1700. After spent hours and hours on the Internet I found the best deal for the 875 is $1,249 with $10 internet coupon for sign up, the total price is $1,239 included free shipping. Since this is my initial thread for the forum, I'm not sure if I can post the company name or the link. I should have my AR by the end of this week, could not wait!!!! :D

I am also considering 805 and 875. To me, the difference of theses two is video upconverting. Please let us know how's your experience on the video upscaling.

any news on this?

will it improve the SD programming enough so we can all say the price set for this receiver is fair?

Will it upscale cable TVs SD programming? I have a Motorola HDDVR from Comcast Cable and I am having a hard time getting an answer. I am looking at the 875, but only if it will upscale cable.

hey guys, how does this receiver stack up to the integra 7.8?

i mean, i thought integra was supposed to be "better", but does it really matter?