Hello,

Can someone please tell me what the best settings are for people like me who use a 720p projector? There are so many settings since the updates in the settings (video) menu that I don t know what to pick anymore......

thanks for all help!

Choose 720p in video output?:confused:

I think the problem is that if you set it to 720p and play something like a bu-ray move (that is supposed to be 1080p), the PS3 does not scale down to 720p for your projector and outputs 480p instead (I think that was the problem ?????). So for games set it to 720p, but for movies set it to 1080i. Or just set it to 1080i all the time and have your projector scale to 720p (now I have to go back and check what setting I have it on). Actually can someone confirm this as I have forgotten the issues.

I think the problem is that if you set it to 720p and play something like a bu-ray move (that is supposed to be 1080p), the PS3 does not scale down to 720p for your projector and outputs 480p instead (I think that was the problem ?????). So for games set it to 720p, but for movies set it to 1080i. Or just set it to 1080i all the time and have your projector scale to 720p (now I have to go back and check what setting I have it on). Actually can someone confirm this as I have forgotten the issues.You are mistaken. With the 1.80 Firmware update, if you set it to just 480p and 720p (no 1080i), you will get 720p output for both Blu-Ray and games, the way it should be.

I think the problem is that if you set it to 720p and play something like a bu-ray move (that is supposed to be 1080p), the PS3 does not scale down to 720p for your projector and outputs 480p instead (I think that was the problem ?????). So for games set it to 720p, but for movies set it to 1080i. Or just set it to 1080i all the time and have your projector scale to 720p (now I have to go back and check what setting I have it on). Actually can someone confirm this as I have forgotten the issues.

this "was" indeed the case and has been fixed since 1.80.

I know Blu-ray Discs now will downscale to 720p, but 1080p-only games will as well?

so NOT set it to 1080i what the ps3 recommends after a hard reset but choose manually 720p in the video settings? And what about RGB super white settings etc?

Yes, everything will now output at 720p just as long as you only have 480p and 720p selected in the video output.

The super white stuff depends on your display. Play around with it and see what you like the best. Personally I can't see much of a difference.

Thanks for clearing that up. I checked last night, I had set it to 1080i to be on the safe side when I got the PS3, so I changed it to 720p to see what happens. Games, and regular DVD's get outputed at 720p, and when I put a blu-ray disc in, the projector stated that the signal was 1080/24. As a result I have left the output to 720p.

I have a 768 native resolution TV (VIZIO Vp50hdtv10A). I unchecked the 1080I figuring that would be best, However the XMB (PS3 MENU) looks really bad with 1080I unchecked. Is it just me or am I doing something wrong. Maybe that is just price you pay for better video ouput quality????

I have a 768 native resolution TV (VIZIO Vp50hdtv10A). I unchecked the 1080I figuring that would be best, However the XMB (PS3 MENU) looks really bad with 1080I unchecked. Is it just me or am I doing something wrong. Maybe that is just price you pay for better video ouput quality????

Is the wrong question for this thread, or am I the only one seeing this, or was this already discussed in another thread? :confused:

I have a 768 native resolution TV (VIZIO Vp50hdtv10A). I unchecked the 1080I figuring that would be best, However the XMB (PS3 MENU) looks really bad with 1080I unchecked. Is it just me or am I doing something wrong. Maybe that is just price you pay for better video ouput quality????


Maybe your tv scales and it takes 1080i and downscales to 768p which would look better than taking 720p and upscaling to 768p.

You are mistaken. With the 1.80 Firmware update, if you set it to just 480p and 720p (no 1080i), you will get 720p output for both Blu-Ray and games, the way it should be.That's good to know and since my DLP's native is 720P, I'll just have 480P and 720P checked when I get home today. Is this true also for a 1080P game (if there is one - sorry I have no games yet for my PS3)?

Maybe your tv scales and it takes 1080i and downscales to 768p which would look better than taking 720p and upscaling to 768p.


Hmmm..... Thats interesting. Do other people with a 768P display. have the same issue???

Thanks for you info everybody!

I have as 720p DLP and my PS3is currently outputting 1080i.....I noticed that in the web browser it blinks (like having a refresh rate too low on a PC monitor) but if I output at 720p it does not.........I don't use the web browser though.

So would I see a better picture in games and blu-rays/dvds if I set Ps3 to 480p/720p only?

I have as 720p DLP and my PS3is currently outputting 1080i.....I noticed that in the web browser it blinks (like having a refresh rate too low on a PC monitor) but if I output at 720p it does not.........I don't use the web browser though.

So would I see a better picture in games and blu-rays/dvds if I set Ps3 to 480p/720p only?

u should, i did at least on test patterns. ideally you always want to set resolution settings to your display's default resolution so it does not have to do any scaling.

I have a 768 native resolution TV (VIZIO Vp50hdtv10A). I unchecked the 1080I figuring that would be best, However the XMB (PS3 MENU) looks really bad with 1080I unchecked. Is it just me or am I doing something wrong. Maybe that is just price you pay for better video ouput quality????

with a 768 res screen u'll want to set ur ps3 to 1080i. since you have to scale either way, it's always better to downscale (1080i->768p) than upscale (720p->768p). this is the general rule of course, and could differ depending on display.

with a 768 res screen u'll want to set ur ps3 to 1080i. since you have to scale either way, it's always better to downscale (1080i->768p) than upscale (720p->768p). this is the general rule of course, and could differ depending on display.
Most but the most expensive 768p TVs bob and weaves 1080i signals, meaning they first take one 540p frame of the 1080i and then upscale that 540p to 768p. In those cases, you're going to want to pick 720p.

That's good to know and since my DLP's native is 720P, I'll just have 480P and 720P checked when I get home today. Is this true also for a 1080P game (if there is one - sorry I have no games yet for my PS3)?Yes, that's correct.

with a 768 res screen u'll want to set ur ps3 to 1080i. since you have to scale either way, it's always better to downscale (1080i->768p) than upscale (720p->768p). this is the general rule of course, and could differ depending on display.

Well that actually makes alot of sense. I guess I might aswell deselect 720P on the ps3 right?? And I dont think the the vizio counts as an expensive one that "bobs" the signal. I guess it in the case of a 768P screen having the extra pixels, is worse than having just 720P.

I guess I might aswell deselect 720P on the ps3 right??
The problem is that if you do that, a lot of games will start downscaling to 480p. You're probably going to have to toggle 720p on or off depending on what looks better with which game, though your Blu-Ray movies should always output at 1080i if you have the option checked.

- Jer

The problem is that if you do that, a lot of games will start downscaling to 480p. You're probably going to have to toggle 720p on or off depending on what looks better with which game, though your Blu-Ray movies should always output at 1080i if you have the option checked.

- Jer

Oh..Ok! Thanks for your help! So If I play transformers the game (which is a blueray and it says it supports 720P,1080i, and 1080P), then even if I have 720p, and 1080i checked , it will default to 1080?

So If I play transformers the game (which is a blueray and it says it supports 720P,1080i, and 1080P), then even if I have 720p, and 1080i checked , it will default to 1080?
Movies and games handle things differently. A Blu-Ray movie will always output at the highest resolution you have checked in the XMB, but a PS3 game will choose its own resolution out of the list of checked ones.

Most PS3 games are targeted for 720p, so if you have 720p checked in the XMB they will always output at 720p, even if you have 1080i or 1080p checked as well. For some of these games, unchecking 720p while leaving 1080i or p checked will cause them to output in 1080 instead, but most of them will just output in 480p if 720p is unchecked in the XMB.

That means that for most games you'll need to check 720p in order to play them in HD at all, but some of them will switch to 1080 if you uncheck 720. And some games like Rainbow 6: Vegas will automatically use the highest resolution available without any hassle (even though that game looks worse in 1080 than it does in 720!).

In other words, it's a mess. :)

- Jer

Most but the most expensive 768p TVs bob and weaves 1080i signals, meaning they first take one 540p frame of the 1080i and then upscale that 540p to 768p. In those cases, you're going to want to pick 720p.
No so. Game content is interlaced by simply splitting interlaced fields into progressive frames, so there is no need for bobbing, only weaving to recombine those fields to full 1920x1080 frames.

If you have a 720p projector, just check 480 and 720 and leave the 2 1080 unchecked. Only reason to have the 1080i checked is if the scaler in your projector is better than the PS3 and it will scale 1080i/p to 720p if the source is rendered in 1080p. (interesting example is that on my Xbox, HD movies look better when the Xbox is outputing 1080i to my 720p projector vs 720p out, several others have also noticed this) I have not nticed a difference in games as most are rendered in 720p and I do not have GRAW 2 to make the comparison. I have not been able to 'force' the PS3 to output 720p on a blu ray movie to see if it makes a difference.

Just to try to clear things up...

There are four possible ways games could work:

A. Rendered in 720p only (the majority of games work this way). The PS3 will downscale these to 480p if 720p was unchecked. That hasn't changed yet, has it?

B. Rendered in either 720p only, but support upscaling to 1080. Some Sega games are like this. If 720p is checked, the game will be output this way since it is the native resolution, but if 720p is unchecked it will be output at 1080i or p.

C. Rendered in 1080p only. These should work on all HD displays since the PS3 can interlace them for 1080i-only displays, and of course all 720p displays will accept 1080i. Will these now downscale to 720p, or did they always work that way? That is the only thing I need clarified.

D. Rendered in either 720p or 1080p (based on the highest setting or even user's preference). I don't know if there are any games like this.

So, if you have a 720p display you can now check off 720p but not 1080i or p. Since the PS3 can now downscale BD movies to 720p, it can now output everything at 720p (if type C games will indeed be output at 720p).

Just to try to clear things up...

There are four possible ways games could work:

A. Rendered in 720p only (the majority of games work this way). The PS3 will downscale these to 480p if 720p was unchecked. That hasn't changed yet, has it?
I've yet to see one games that works like that. All the games I've checked actually render at 480p when running a 480 line output. What games are you suggesting use downscaling?

B. Rendered in either 720p only, but support upscaling to 1080. Some Sega games are like this. If 720p is checked, the game will be output this way since it is the native resolution, but if 720p is unchecked it will be output at 1080i or p.
Asside from the Warhawk beta, the games I've seen that support scaling to 1080 line outputs don't render for those outputs at 720p, rather they use 960x1080.

C. Rendered in 1080p only. These should work on all HD displays since the PS3 can interlace them for 1080i-only displays, and of course all 720p displays will accept 1080i. Will these now downscale to 720p, or did they always work that way? That is the only thing I need clarified.
I've yet to see any game that won't render at 720p when that is the highest option selected. What games are you suggesting can't?

D. Rendered in either 720p or 1080p (based on the highest setting or even user's preference). I don't know if there are any games like this.
I'm pretty sure all games that support 1080p rendering are like that, at least I have yet to see one that doesn't.

So, if you have a 720p display you can now check off 720p but not 1080i or p. Since the PS3 can now downscale BD movies to 720p, it can now output everything at 720p (if type C games will indeed be output at 720p).
Unchecking 1080 line outputs will cheat you out of getting your many games rendered at higher than 720p, again I've yet to a game where it won't.

I've yet to see one games that works like that. All the games I've checked actually render at 480p when running a 480 line output. What games are you suggesting use downscaling?

Okay, I didn't know they actually rendered at 480p.

Asside from the Warhawk beta, the games I've seen that support scaling to 1080 line outputs don't render for those outputs at 720p, rather they use 960x1080.

Thanks for the clarification on the rendering resolution.

I've yet to see any game that won't render at 720p when that is the highest option selected. What games are you suggesting can't?

Okay, I was confused about the issue. Thanks again for the info.

I'm pretty sure all games that support 1080p rendering are like that, at least I have yet to see one that doesn't.

Unchecking 1080 line outputs will cheat you out of getting your many games rendered at higher than 720p, again I've yet to a game where it won't.

Well, for a 720p display would you want the games rendered at 1080p? I suppose they could look smoother though.

Yes, rendering at higher a higher resolution and downsampling than improves image quality beyond what can be acomplished by rendering at the native resolution of the display.

Unchecking 1080 line outputs will cheat you out of getting your many games rendered at higher than 720p, again I've yet to a game where it won't.
So you've never encountered games like:

Armored Core 4
Call of Duty 3
Def Jam Icon
F.E.A.R.
Fight Night Round 3
Formula 1 Racing
Genji: Days of the Blade
The Godfather: The Don's Edition
GripShift
Madden 2007
MLB 2k7
Motorstorm
Need for Speed: Carbon
NHL 2k7
Oblivion
Resistance: Fall of Man
Spider-Man 3
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom

...which will only do 720p or below? :)

- Jer

So you've never encountered games like:

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...which will only do 720p or below? :)


I've encountered many of those games. What I've never seen a game that will render at 1080p but scale to 720p output when that is the highest option selected as SirDrexl had claimed. Context is king. ;)

Context is king. ;)
I'd say that clarity is king, and context is a close second. :)

Your sentence (missing word and all) implied that you hadn't encountered a game that wouldn't render at higher than 720p when the 1080 options were selected. There are plenty of games that will never render higher than 720p. If you meant to say something else, then perhaps you should have, especially since you're so quick to jump on others for saying something like "downscaling to 480p" instead of "rendering at 480p", when downscaling was referring to the relative decrease in resolution and not the actual implementation. ;)

- Jer

'Downscaling' implies scaling, 'downgrading' would be a reasonable description but 'downscaling' simply isn't what the PS3 is doing. And yeah, my response wasn't particularly clear, but not due to the missing words but rather in reprhaising myself I accidentally left in a "your" that shouldn't have been there, which again is obvious in the contenxt of the claim I was responding to.