View Full Version : Clipping in my records? Or clipping in my sound system?


VinnieVincent
07-01-07, 05:38 AM
Hello. I would be so glad if anyone could answer my question. I have a NAD T754 reciever and another NAD dvd/cd player. I thought it was my old speakers that where the problem but apperantly it wasnt because I have just bought a couple of new DALI Concept 8 speakers. In some of my cd's, eg Judas Priest, Guns N' Roses and so on, there is a fuzz, or a clipping sound on the high frequencies. Not on all tracks and all the time, but it appears sometimes, for example on the Judas Priest track Love Bites from Deffenders of the Faith album(remastered) somewhere around the break in the middle. There is also problems on the first guitar riff on the first track on the Guns N' Roses album Spaghetti Incident. I have also heard this problem in some of my movies, for example The Godfather. So, my question is; is it the fine and exact sound that my sound system produces that makes these things appear, or is there something wrong with my system?

Is it like this when you have a good system? That you will hear that the record companies can't master for ****!?

Please give me an answer, cause it's realy annoying.

Thanks

EC
07-02-07, 02:02 AM
Does this fuzz happen at the exact time on each track? Try listening with headphones. If you hear the same thing then the recording is bad - not much you can do about that. If you don't hear these noises with the headphones - can you repeat this with the speakers ie same time on each track. If so try listening at a different volumes including lower ones. My friend has an Audi A4 and only on some songs at certain levels, he would get a resonance rattle - so I lent him my Audio Sweep CD to find out what freq this was happening so he could show his dealer. I am just wondering if you had your music cranked which might have clipped the amp and caused some damage to your speakers where the damage is only at certain freq's

VinnieVincent
07-02-07, 12:19 PM
well... I got my new speakers just 5 days ago so it can't be them..

but..
its always on the same place in the songs/movie, if i rewind it will be exactly the same again.
ive tried to listen with headphones, and then its there to, however it wont be heard as much as with the speakers(the headphones are cheap and don't produce so good sound, but its still there). so I suppose its the recordings? Then I have to say there are ALOT of bad recordings out there, escpecially when it comes to 70's / 80's rock music...hmmm ... ow, ive never played so loud so the signal has got distorted, iam always, well, pretty damn far away from that, I hope =).

Does this fuzz happen at the exact time on each track? Try listening with headphones. If you hear the same thing then the recording is bad - not much you can do about that. If you don't hear these noises with the headphones - can you repeat this with the speakers ie same time on each track. If so try listening at a different volumes including lower ones. My friend has an Audi A4 and only on some songs at certain levels, he would get a resonance rattle - so I lent him my Audio Sweep CD to find out what freq this was happening so he could show his dealer. I am just wondering if you had your music cranked which might have clipped the amp and caused some damage to your speakers where the damage is only at certain freq's

Targus
07-02-07, 12:29 PM
Distortion is the main ingrediant in the music you listen to.

ekb
07-02-07, 12:32 PM
There is a very bad practice in the recording industry called loudness. The average level is increased by severely limiting the dynamic range and very often the peaks are in fact clipped. There have been some good threads and links on the topic in AVS forum. Try searching in the DVD concert forum and also Google it.

Ed

jwatte
07-02-07, 08:00 PM
I have to say there are ALOT of bad recordings out there

Yes!

However, it could conceivably be a problem in your DACs, either CD player or amp. If you take your CD to another good-quality system (different CD, different amp), and listen on headphones, is it still there? If not, it's your DAC; if it still is, it's the recording. My bet is it's the recording, but in the spirit of true diagnosis, you have to do this test.

VinnieVincent
07-06-07, 07:32 AM
Yes!

However, it could conceivably be a problem in your DACs, either CD player or amp. If you take your CD to another good-quality system (different CD, different amp), and listen on headphones, is it still there? If not, it's your DAC; if it still is, it's the recording. My bet is it's the recording, but in the spirit of true diagnosis, you have to do this test.

well, now ive tried it on several other music machines, both cheap and a little bit more expensives. I can actualy hear those things on the cheap to, but only if you play a little louder or add more treble and listen very carefully. you wouldn't hear it if you didnt knew about it. its also there with headphones and everything. i suppose that its just that a fine sound system makes those things appear more, such as other details in the music. some people shouldn't work in label studios... :(

MichaelJHuman
07-09-07, 02:30 PM
Sound engineers have been known to mix for inexpensive equipment (e.g. boomboxes.) There's an urban legend one famous guy used a car deck to check his mixes against.