ordered from e-dvd.pl on the 29th and they shipped it within a few hours so I got it in 2 business days from poland with the cheapest shipping option what a great site I will surely order from them in the future.

Ive only watched several scenes but from what I can tell the PQ is fantastic!

Audio options are regular DTS and DD 5.1 plus a DD 5.1 polish track.

There are polish subtitles but they arent forced.

This is definetly a keeper. Ive been waiting since January for this movie on BD and Fox keep delaying so screw them I bought this and Iam very happy.

A major advantage for HD DVD and that is why I favor this format.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l218/edo9125/DSC01132.jpg

Awesome! Looks good... :)

how much you pay shipped?

how much you pay shipped?

The HD DVD was $39.35 and shipping was 8.50.

A bit pricey but totally worth it I because I was so pleasently surprised to recieve it so fast. I was thinking mid next week at the earliest.

Wow, that is pricey. Good to see it shipped so fast. Got to love HD DVD, you get blu-ray exclusives before they do! From Poland? Got to love it.

Wow, that is pricey. Good to see it shipped so fast. Got to love HD DVD, you get blu-ray exclusives before they do! From Poland? Got to love it.

It was a bit pricey but I ordered a couple of hd dvds from buy.com (a company in the US) two weeks ago and paid $6 for shipping and havent recieved them yet. :(

I pay $8.50 shipping for an HD DVD and recieve it in 2 days from poland I mean come on!

That is great service!

Glad that you received it so fast. How's the audio/video quality of the movie?

Any extras?

Any extras?

No extras but I didnt expect any from the Fox BD so Iam not too dissapointed.

Glad that you received it so fast. How's the audio/video quality of the movie?

Excellent so far. Ive only browsed through several chapters, I will watch the whole thing later on but so far its great.

As soon as you pop it in you can see the improvement and know this is HD. Which isnt the case with some recent disc where you have to look at the background and see if its detailed enough to be considered HD (40 year old virgin, Daylight and others).

What to say, other than I am very happy. The FOX release Mr. & Mrs. Smith had arrived from Poland. It is such a joke that a FOX release get out on HDDVD in Poland (Yes Europe for thoses who dont know the place, oh my) as a disp. company has the rights over here. One has to love HDDVD and the NONE regional coding. This must be a big slap in the face of FOX, the controlling company, Blu Ray exc. and so on oh my. The only good thing I can say about FOX is thanks for producing the movie is is very nice. :)

The PQ is +++ just like Underworld Ev. that I have bought in Spain (That ws the same story again right). Well it seams that Europe is getting some of the movies out and what a joy to see that the quality is just as good as the US releases.

And if you are affraid of the yello sticker you have seen on the box it is a sticker and it comes off whitout any problems.

Next to buy, Silent Hill and Underworld from Germany :D

too bad these foreign releases don't have truehd tracks...it's tough to go to lossy audio when you know there's something better out there.

Germany probably gets the HD DVD too, because Kinowelt distrubutes the movie here. The chances of getting the DC are good, since they also released it on DVD.
I rather wait for this one.
Kinowelt is the company that announced Saw Trilogy.

ordered from e-dvd.pl on the 29th and they shipped it within a few hours so I got it in 2 business days from poland with the cheapest shipping option what a great site I will surely order from them in the future.

Ive only watched several scenes but from what I can tell the PQ is fantastic!

Audio options are regular DTS and DD 5.1 plus a DD 5.1 polish track.

There are polish subtitles but they arent forced.

This is definetly a keeper. Ive been waiting since January for this movie on BD and Fox keep delaying so screw them I bought this and Iam very happy.

A major advantage for HD DVD and that is why I favor this format.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l218/edo9125/DSC01132.jpg
Do you mind giving me the full net address, I want this one.

Sorry, that was the full net address. Going in now.

Sorry for my ignorance but why would a studio not release something like this in the USA if all (or most) of the leg work was already done? I sort of understand exclusive studios not wanting to produce in both formats because of the increased overhead for each format they support. Are exclusive studios only exclusive in the USA?

-Rian

Sorry for my ignorance but why would a studio not release something like this in the USA if all (or most) of the leg work was already done? I sort of understand exclusive studios not wanting to produce in both formats because of the increased overhead for each format they support. Are exclusive studios only exclusive in the USA?

-Rian

Exclusive studios are exclusive everywhere.
The only studios that are not exclusive are independent studios. I think every $, €, £ counts, so they have no bias towards a format in the first place (usually).

The major reason why independent European studios by the majority are releasing movies on HD DVD is the lower price for producing HD DVDs in comparison to Blu-rays.

Excellent so far. Ive only browsed through several chapters, I will watch the whole thing later on but so far its great.

As soon as you pop it in you can see the improvement and know this is HD. Which isnt the case with some recent disc where you have to look at the background and see if its detailed enough to be considered HD (40 year old virgin, Daylight and others).
How did you know what to do? Is there an English translation on the site?

Tired of not being able to enjoy exclusive Blu-Ray movies on HD DVD? Find many import HD DVDs which feature US-Blu-Ray movies on HD DVD. >www.area-hd.de< (Updated: 06/29/07)


I just checked that inport site out and all I can say is WOW lol. Fantasic four on hd dvd and ghost rider on hd dvd that is friggen cool.
I'm really starting to think that hd dvd not having region coding is going to be a major thorn in blu ray's side! Me like's ... Me like's alot lol

Tired of not being able to enjoy exclusive Blu-Ray movies on HD DVD? Find many import HD DVDs which feature US-Blu-Ray movies on HD DVD. >www.area-hd.de< (Updated: 06/29/07)


I just checked that inport site out and all I can say is WOW lol. Fantasic four on hd dvd and ghost rider on hd dvd that is friggen cool.
I'm really starting to think that hd dvd not having region coding is going to be a major thorn in blu ray's side! Me like's ... Me like's alot lol
Thanks buddy, great find. You just saved me some bucks, I was going to buy a cheap Bd player sometime this holiday season just to watch Fox titles. I can see now that I will be able to order most of them from Europe. HD DVD rocks.

Nice

How did you know what to do? Is there an English translation on the site?

I'd love to add this one to the collection, but I have no idea how to add it to cart.

unless you plan to watch this every week, 50bux shipped is way too much for any movie. I think 2,99 SD dvd will do for awhile, the transfer isn't half bad on it.

unless you plan to watch this every week, 50bux shipped is way too much for any movie. I think 2,99 SD dvd will do for awhile, the transfer isn't half bad on it.

50bux shipped is way too much for any movie (for you). Enjoy your SD copy. I'll enjoy my HD-DVD copy. Everybody's happy.

Let me wait for the FOX U.S release or wait it to get listed on Tony's site.
I may get the HD DVD version if it costs less than $32 including shipping.

unless you plan to watch this every week, 50bux shipped is way too much for any movie. I think 2,99 SD dvd will do for awhile, the transfer isn't half bad on it.
Real HD DVD supporters buy movies, we don't rent like the most of the BD crew. I would rather spend almost $50 for an HD DVD than $700 for a BD player.

ordered from e-dvd.pl on the 29th and they shipped it within a few hours so I got it in 2 business days from poland with the cheapest shipping option what a great site I will surely order from them in the future.

Ive only watched several scenes but from what I can tell the PQ is fantastic!

Audio options are regular DTS and DD 5.1 plus a DD 5.1 polish track.

There are polish subtitles but they arent forced.

This is definetly a keeper. Ive been waiting since January for this movie on BD and Fox keep delaying so screw them I bought this and Iam very happy.

A major advantage for HD DVD and that is why I favor this format.

How did you know how to use the site? Give us the directions man.

so basically you hd dvd fanboys have no common sense. Great!

You should really put that on your sig.

Maybe we just have more common cents to spend on movies.

Maybe we just have more common cents to spend on movies.
Good one.

Good one.

Thank you very much. I'm here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress. :)

unless you plan to watch this every week, 50bux shipped is way too much for any movie.

Never had laserdisc, didja?

Keep an eye on the Xploited Cinema website. Tony is working on getting this one. I'm sure it will be one of the more expensive imports, but ordering from a US company will be a lot easier.

I would pay an extra $5 not to have teh swooshes all over the disc cover :)

How did you know how to use the site? Give us the directions man.

Sorry been away for a while.

First of all you have to sign up, you cant add anything to your cart unless you sign up.

click on rejestracja under the login(zaloguj)on the left side of the screen.

It will take you the registration screen. go to www.Pol-tran.com for translation of the options.

click Submit (wyslij)

they will send you an email to verify the account within a minute. verify it by clicking the link on the email and sign in.

Go to the product you want do koszyka (add to cart) unbder the picture in the listing.

Click on Mój koszyk (Cart) on the right part of you screen. usually higlighted in pink or red.

It will give you the total/quantity click Dalej (proceed).

That's it! you just have to approve the shipping address and enter payment info.

to check on the status of your order go the Historia (History) button. It will give you order info and status if your order says Zrealizowane (realized) that means its been shipped.

unless you plan to watch this every week, 50bux shipped is way too much for any movie. I think 2,99 SD dvd will do for awhile, the transfer isn't half bad on it.
Tons of people are going to buy "Blade Runner" for "$50US".
Where do you get the SD DVD of "M&MS" for "$2.99US?

Is this HD-DVD full of noise reduction artifacts like the 35mm prints?

Wow, that is pricey. Good to see it shipped so fast. Got to love HD DVD, you get blu-ray exclusives before they do! From Poland? Got to love it.

That is downright hilarious. That should be a marketing campaign for HDDVD "Get Bluray exclusives before they come out for Bluray!" :D :p

Real HD DVD supporters buy movies, we don't rent like the most of the BD crew. I would rather spend almost $50 for an HD DVD than $700 for a BD player.

Wow. Just when I thought posts in these forums couldn't sink any further.

Let me get some of these new "facts" straight...


HD-DVD is superior because you can order Blu-Ray exclusives from other regions and pay twice the price
Most Blu-Ray owners rent (I would love to know where the data to support that fun fact came from)
Renting makes a person not a "real" HD-DVD supporter. So, anyone who has rented HD-DVDs from Netflix now knows they aren't supporting the format


Wow. Just...wow.

Is this HD-DVD full of noise reduction artifacts like the 35mm prints?

I don't have the disc and can't comment on it, but if the theatrical prints looked DNR'ed, then most likely the problem is on the movie's DI, in which case every home video edition will look the same.

Most Blu-Ray owners rent (I would love to know where the data to support that fun fact came from)

I doubt this could be documented, even if it is accurate, but it isn't difficult to make the extrapolation.

1. Blu-ray has many more players in the market.
2. Despite the huge hardware advantage, disc sales do not reflect that difference in hardware base.
3. The majority of the hardware base is game consoles. That demographic is more likely to rent than buy a movie. Obviously, Blockbuster thinks so.

I don't consider the posted comment that much of a stretch.

Wow. Just when I thought posts in these forums couldn't sink any further.

Let me get some of these new "facts" straight...


HD-DVD is superior because you can order Blu-Ray exclusives from other regions and pay twice the price
Most Blu-Ray owners rent (I would love to know where the data to support that fun fact came from)
Renting makes a person not a "real" HD-DVD supporter. So, anyone who has rented HD-DVDs from Netflix now knows they aren't supporting the format


Wow. Just...wow.
It was just a shot at the BD fan. I know that a lot of HD DVD fans rent as well. But as fae as BD fans renting more and buying less, attach rates more than proves that 0.5 movies per BD player??? Elemetary Mr. Watson.

I just recieved an email from Tony at Xploited. He will be getting in stock MR &
MRS. SMITH and THE ISLAND very soon.

Happy to hear that. Tony is the best online vender I've dealt with.

Never had laserdisc, didja?

My exact thought. I had hundreds of LDs and the vast majority of them were $50+ ten years ago.

Mr & Mrs Smith was one of the titles that made go format neutral before Fox hid in a cave and pulled it. Funny I will be able to get it on HD-DVD first. I think I'll buy the import just so Fox gets less of my money ;)

Is the HD DVD the UNRATED version or the theatrical version? :confused:

To the OP, post a review here: http://reviews.avsforum.com/showproduct.php?product=639&cat=3

Is the HD DVD the UNRATED version or the theatrical version? :confused:

Anyone know what the difference is between the two versions? I have the theatrical on SD and never got round to seeing the unrated cut.

edo9125,

When I try to register on e-dvd.pl, it won't accept my us address (zip code specifically). How did you get around this?

Thanks

Never had laserdisc, didja?






Darn you just beat me to it,I knew people who spend 70,80,90 & sometimes up to $100.00 buko dollars :eek: I love the Abys but not $100 big ones without the director's cut at that!!!



Djoel

Darn you just beat me to it,I knew people who spend 70,80,90 & sometimes up to $100.00 buko dollars :eek: I love the Abys but not $100 big ones without the director's cut at that!!!



Djoel

Hehe I have the Abyss, Stars Wars Definitive, The Stand, etc on LD still. Snce I couldn't come close to recouping the $ spent on them I just hold on to them and watch them in craptacular S-Video glory from time to time :)

Darn you just beat me to it,I knew people who spend 70,80,90 & sometimes up to $100.00 buko dollars :eek: I love the Abys but not $100 big ones without the director's cut at that!!!

Djoel

I had criterion versions of Blade Runner, The Game, Se7en, Evita...and others. They all cost about $90-100. The Star Wars boxed set cost me $235 when I bought it and I just sold it last week on ebay for $35.

DVD has spoiled EVERYONE.

Is there a reason why they are publishing some titles (including this one) outside of the US only.

Is there a reason why they are publishing some titles (including this one) outside of the US only.

Read the thread.

It's distributed by a different company in Poland. It's not Fox.

Read. Thanks. I'm sorry.

Never had laserdisc, didja?

I'm not sure bringing up an expensive, obsolete format that never gained mainstream popularity, is a comparison the HD DVD group would like to hear.

And I owned 2 LD players and 60+ discs

I had criterion versions of Blade Runner, The Game, Se7en, Evita...and others. They all cost about $90-100. The Star Wars boxed set cost me $235 when I bought it and I just sold it last week on ebay for $35.

DVD has spoiled EVERYONE.


I remember some movies where distributed by Pioneer? Is that right??
My friend went hog wild for every flick released on LD. I told him back in 96 to hold on getting every single thing on LD, that there's a new format allot smaller,with close PQ & better SQ.....He pulled out some Stereo Review article saying some thing about how long it was going to take DVD to reach the same PQ as DVD's
And that Dvds would never reach mass appeal :p

You should have seen his face, when he saw my modest system, throwing in tiny LD's in my second Tosh Sd 901??,not to sure the model #.. I gave it to an aunt,so I need to check on the name on unbreakable machine...


DJoel

That is downright hilarious. That should be a marketing campaign for HDDVD "Get Bluray exclusives before they come out for Bluray!" :D :p

And they won't have BD+. You know the BD studios must monitor these threads at sometime. They must love this.

Region free (as ex con Martha Stewart would say) is a "good thing."

I'm not sure bringing up an expensive, obsolete format that never gained mainstream popularity, is a comparison the HD DVD group would like to hear.

And I owned 2 LD players and 60+ discs

Let's put it this way...if HD DVD is anywhere near what Laserdisc was, I'd be damn happy. I don't care about gaining mainstream popularity. Laserdisc was an expensive niche that had pretty much EVERYTHING released on it. In fact, there are still a lot of titles that LD got that DVD hasn't. EITHER HD format will wish it had the type of support and library that LD had.

Let's put it this way...if HD DVD is anywhere near what Laserdisc was, I'd be damn happy. I don't care about gaining mainstream popularity. Laserdisc was an expensive niche that had pretty much EVERYTHING released on it. In fact, there are still a lot of titles that LD got that DVD hasn't. EITHER HD format will wish it had the type of support and library that LD had.

Exactly. There is nothing wrong with either format enjoying the niche LD had. LD lasted long enough for something better to come around. I had thought at the time that DVD would just fill the void in the same market and was hoping it wouldn't gain mainstream acceptance. I had a fear that once we left the niche that everything would be full frame or pan and scan. Luckily, for the most part, that didn't happen.

I thoroughly enjoyed my LD and have even "backed up" some of the foreign films that have not been released on dvd. But the problem of being a niche market is the hammer can drop at any time. Living in Akron,OH the only store that carried LD's was Camelot so most purchases were made thru Colombia house or other mail order stores. The majority of people purchasing dvds are buying from B&M stores, and I don't think there going to jump thru all the hoops to pick up HD versions of movies they want at a higher price,from other countries online.

So what? Again, using the same example, laserdisc didn't die for 20 years as a niche format that was NEVER available in 98% of retail stores. The HD formats have already beat that.

This side-track isn't about imports. It's about the HD formats themselves. A niche is fine by me. I never had to worry about people asking to borrow my stuff.

This was just about the fact that to get MR. & Mrs Smith, it has to be imported from Poland at a prohbitive cost. And I think eveyone who bought a HD player on either side wants it to outgrow niche status. Mainstream acceptance means more titles at a lower cost.

This was just about the fact that to get MR. & Mrs Smith, it has to be imported from Poland at a prohbitive cost. And I think eveyone who bought a HD player on either side wants it to outgrow niche status. Mainstream acceptance means more titles at a lower cost.

Who cares if it outgrows niche status?

Laserdisc proved that more titles does not always = lower cost.

And how much lower do you want them to get? It already costs the same to produce a SD DVD as an HD DVD.

So let me get this straight.
What was it, five six months ago that you could not find a stand alone Blue Ray player for less than $1000. The Pioneer was $1500! :eek:
And we have Blue Ray supporters pi$$ing and moaning about paying $50 for a movie!! PLEASE!!
I was real close to getting a BD player until FOX, (the king of paranoia) shamelessly pulled it from our grasps. Having FOX in the corner with Blue Ray is nothing more than window dressing.

Now, HD-DVD owners get to revel in owning this title before Blue Ray supporters!!
That is just hilarious!!!

Craig

Who cares if it outgrows niche status?

Laserdisc proved that more titles does not always = lower cost.

And how much lower do you want them to get? It already costs the same to produce a SD DVD as an HD DVD.

And if it costs the same to make an HD DVD as a SDVD why are all the SDVD new releases cheaper than HD and BD new releases.......because they sell in such a huge quantity that a lower price still brings huge profits.

So let me get this straight.
What was it, five six months ago that you could not find a stand alone Blue Ray player for less than $1000. The Pioneer was $1500! :eek:
And we have Blue Ray supporters pi$$ing and moaning about paying $50 for a movie!! PLEASE!!
I was real close to getting a BD player until FOX, (the king of paranoia) shamelessly pulled it from our grasps. Having FOX in the corner with Blue Ray is nothing more than window dressing.

Now, HD-DVD owners get to revel in owning this title before Blue Ray supporters!!
That is just hilarious!!!

Craig

Like how you hedged with "stand alone" since 6 months ago the PS3 was still $599

How much was the 1080i toshiba 6 months ago without rebates?

And if $50 movies sold in the real world, you'd see BB and CC stocking Criterion collection dvd releases next to Harold and Kumar and Talladega Nights

And if $50 movies sold in the real world, you'd see BB and CC stocking Criterion collection dvd releases next to Harold and Kumar and Talladega Nights
Yep!
We're NOT living in "the real world".
We are living in the "HD DVD World", a much better place by the way. :D

You can go right ahead and buy "Little Man" on BD at BB.
We'll be watching "Mr. & Mrs. Smith" on HD DVD! :cool:

I'm not spending my hard earned cash on either, didn't watch LittleMan cause I have more common sense and Mr &Mrs Smith is not worth $45 unless Angelina Jolie is doing 2 Hrs of "girl on girl" supplements.

I'm not spending my hard earned cash on either, didn't watch LittleMan cause I have more common sense and Mr &Mrs Smith is not worth $45 unless Angelina Jolie is doing 2 Hrs of "girl on girl" supplements.

Then get out of this thread, please.

Word from Tony at Xploited Cinema:


hi!
i do have Mr and Mrs Smith on order. those should be here in about 7-10
days.


tony

Like how you hedged with "stand alone" since 6 months ago the PS3 was still $599

How much was the 1080i toshiba 6 months ago without rebates?

And if $50 movies sold in the real world, you'd see BB and CC stocking Criterion collection dvd releases next to Harold and Kumar and Talladega Nights

Please!!!
OK, so how much was the X-Box add on?? $150... $200?? At least the HD-DVD was not force fed down consumer’s throats like the PS3. If you wanted the HD-DVD add on, it is available for a fair price. If you want a PS3, you have to take the Blue Ray player that comes along with itwhether you are a gmer who likes movies or not.
The A2 was about $400 about six months ago. If you wanted a first generation Samsung BD player, you could have bought it for around $700. Of course a first gen XA1 could have been had for what... about $300-$350.
Don't write off Mr. and Mrs. Smith so quickly. I remember before FOX (AKA, kings of paranoia) pulled this title from the Blue Ray library, it was being touted at CES as yet another reason to buy Blue Ray.
Of course now that Blue Ray lovers everywhere can not have it... we see childish responses like this one... :rolleyes:

I'm not spending my hard earned cash on either, didn't watch LittleMan cause I have more common sense and Mr &Mrs Smith is not worth $45 unless Angelina Jolie is doing 2 Hrs of "girl on girl" supplements.

That is impressive… :rolleyes:
OK, back to the topic of this thread... which is the availability of M & M Smith on HD-DVD!!

Craig

I'm not spending my hard earned cash on either, didn't watch LittleMan cause I have more common sense and Mr &Mrs Smith is not worth $45 unless Angelina Jolie is doing 2 Hrs of "girl on girl" supplements.

This is the HD DVD Software forum. Its a place for people to discuss HD DVD movies and software. If you want bash HD DVD software you could visit http://forums.highdefdigest.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 and enjoy their SmackDown area.

Word from Tony at Xploited Cinema:hi!
i do have Mr and Mrs Smith on order. those should be here in about 7-10
days.


tony
PHEW!! The Polish sites are definitely a bit more intimidating than Amazon.de/.fr... :)...Xploited Cinema is AWESOME!!

"Originally Posted by vikingfan
I'm not spending my hard earned cash on either, didn't watch LittleMan cause I have more common sense and Mr &Mrs Smith is not worth $45 unless Angelina Jolie is doing 2 Hrs of "girl on girl" supplements"


This is the second thread today you've trolled on the hd-dvd forum please stop.

"Originally Posted by vikingfan
I'm not spending my hard earned cash on either, didn't watch LittleMan cause I have more common sense and Mr &Mrs Smith is not worth $45 unless Angelina Jolie is doing 2 Hrs of "girl on girl" supplements"

This is the second thread today you've trolled on the hd-dvd forum please stop.
Those Blu Ray trolls seem to live for trolling in our world...it's how they try to justify their mistake in buying the wrong format at twice the price. :eek: :D

Heck...4 out of 5 of them are PS3 gamers anyway - not movie disk buyers. That's why despite an 80-20% hardware install base advanatage, they only have a 56-44% disk sales lead - they just ain't buying BD anyway... :cool: :rolleyes:

I see it on e-dvd.pl but not on xploited. After skimming through all three pages I'm considering picking this one up too.

So what? Again, using the same example, laserdisc didn't die for 20 years as a niche format that was NEVER available in 98% of retail stores. The HD formats have already beat that.

This side-track isn't about imports. It's about the HD formats themselves. A niche is fine by me. I never had to worry about people asking to borrow my stuff.

Was always what I liked about Laserdisc. Few people I could lend them to and those that did have LD players tend to look after them properly. DVD lending was getting to be a pain.

edo9125, what language is are the menus in (if any)?

I heard that the HD DVD Video presentation is in 1080i. Can the owners please check and confirm ?

Yeah, I read that too about the 1080i...but the review on page 1 here seems to say it's rather stellar. Need more info for sure b4 plunking down $40. :)

www.area-hd.de

Aspect Ratio: 2,35:1 (1080p)
Languages:
English (DTS 5.1)
English (Dolby Digital Plus 5.1)
Polish (Dolby Digital Plus 5.1) [Voice-Over]
Subtitles: Polish, Rumanian
Extras:
- Making Of
- Planning the Movie
- Interviews
- Scene Access
- Trailer
Distributor: Monolith

Release Date:


05/16/2007

The backcover says 1080i
There are no extras at all
There are only polish subtitles

I heard that the HD DVD Video presentation is in 1080i. Can the owners please check and confirm ?

You do realize that all 1080i signals are converted to 1080p by your TV?! I.e. there is zero, zilcho, no difference whatsoever between what you 'see' on your TV.

Though there is only a subtle difference between 1080i vs 1080p like what is present between AVC and VC-1 when it comes to HD DVD / BD all we need is nothing less than 1080p. I have a doubt if the HD DVD was authored from broadcast HD as it's just 1080i.

Though there is only a subtle difference between 1080i vs 1080p like what is present between AVC and VC-1 when it comes to HD DVD / BD all we need is nothing less than 1080p. I have a doubt if the HD DVD was authored from broadcast HD as it's just 1080i.

If the distribution company has the rights to it then they would have made a master and not use an HD broadcast.

To me some of the recently released Universal Catalog titles seems to have shared the master used for the HD broadcast as the PQ outcome was the same. I am not sure why the distribution company encoded it 1080i instead of 1080p ( I assume that the movie is encoded in 1080i. If not my apologies).

I wonder if you can check whether it is 1080i or 1080p by using PowerDVD 7 ultra or something.

I'm curious... what's the encode? Since it's a Fox title did they use VC1 or go with AVC?

I'm curious... what's the encode? Since it's a Fox title did they use VC1 or go with AVC?

It's not a Fox title, hence the reason why it's out on HD DVD.

It's not a Fox title, hence the reason why it's out on HD DVD.


Go check for yourself on http://www.mrandmrssmithmovie.com/. The movie license is FOX + Regency in the US. But happily the rights are owned by Monolith in Poland which is why it got released on HD-DVD :D

Same for Fantastic Four which will be released by Concorde in Germany in early August on HD-DVD while it's a FOX title (BD exclusive) in the US

And by the way for all the ones who are eager to know which codec is used on the Mr & Mrs SMith HD-DVD, well it's VC1 and resolution is 1080P and not 1080i as stated on the back of the box (the 1080i is just here to indicate the output resolution available on players like A1/A2/E1)... The same mistake is made with japanese HD-DVD (all of them like XXX, Equilibrium, GOAL, Reign of fire, Jersey Girl, Out of time, Oliver twist, Finding Neverland... are indicated being 1080i on the box refering to the output provided by most of the DVD-Players while they are indeed 1080P transfers)

Real HD DVD supporters buy movies, we don't rent like the most of the BD crew. I would rather spend almost $50 for an HD DVD than $700 for a BD player.


Great logic. Overspend on the movies but spend less on a player.

Ya, that makes HD-DVD cheaper than Blu-ray. :rolleyes:

I wonder if we'll see HD-DVD releases of LEON and The Fifth Element by Monolith.

Great logic. Overspend on the movies but spend less on a player.

Ya, that makes HD-DVD cheaper than Blu-ray. :rolleyes:
Go play "M&MS" in HD on your cheaper format! :p

Don't care what format this is on. What a stupid movie. Wouldn't buy it for either format.

Go check for yourself on http://www.mrandmrssmithmovie.com/. The movie license is FOX + Regency in the US. But happily the rights are owned by Monolith in Poland which is why it got released on HD-DVD :D



I know that...but it's not being released on HD DVD in the US, now is it? ;)

Great logic. Overspend on the movies but spend less on a player.

Ya, that makes HD-DVD cheaper than Blu-ray. :rolleyes:

It's not overspending if you're getting better quality, now is it?

Like I said, BD boys love the "quality" line except when an HD DVD trumps it.

Great logic. Overspend on the movies but spend less on a player.

Ya, that makes HD-DVD cheaper than Blu-ray. :rolleyes:
Yes!

I know that...but it's not being released on HD DVD in the US, now is it? ;)

So... Going back to my question, does anyone know the codec?

The HD DVD was $39.35 and shipping was 8.50.

A bit pricey but totally worth it I because I was so pleasently surprised to recieve it so fast. I was thinking mid next week at the earliest.


That's too much zloty for my blood. ;)

.......and this HD DVD supporter rents more then buy.

I know that...but it's not being released on HD DVD in the US, now is it? ;)

It's actually not being released in BD or HD DVD for the North American Market since Fox canceled their BD release.

The only way to see this film using a US HDM player is on HD DVD.

It's actually not being released in BD or HD DVD for the North American Market since Fox canceled their BD release.

The only way to see this film using a US HDM player is on HD DVD.

Uhh...that's what i said.

What I don't get is, why list in on the websites as having extra material, and then get it barebones??? it's just dumb, (actually smart for a ripoff but heck)

So, basiclly, did it actually had extras or not?!??!?!?!?!

Great logic. Overspend on the movies but spend less on a player.

Ya, that makes HD-DVD cheaper than Blu-ray. :rolleyes:


Let's see, spend 400 less on a player, but spend 20 bucks more on a couple movies. Yep, that over 300 bucks cheaper.

I guess you could buy the worst selling game console and use that instead. But then you'd still have to by a Wii.

Well I finally got rid of my original DVD copy of Mr and Mrs. Smith to one of my friends for a small price so I now I am very looking forward to importing this title.

I emailed Tony at Xploited last night and got a reply saying he should have the Smiths in within a week and should be getting The Island towards the end of July.

Let's see, spend 400 less on a player, but spend 20 bucks more on a couple movies. Yep, that over 300 bucks cheaper.

I guess you could buy the worst selling game console and use that instead. But then you'd still have to by a Wii.


Nice try buddy.

Last time I checked 2 BD players are 499 and 2 are 599
Compare that to the XA-2 or A20 and I don't see what the hell you are talking about.

But whatever you need to justify it to yourself.

Nice try buddy.

Last time I checked 2 BD players are 499 and 2 are 599
Compare that to the XA-2 or A20 and I don't see what the hell you are talking about.

But whatever you need to justify it to yourself.
Whatever you need to justify trolling to yourself. Your "it" is posting about hardware prices on a thread about the HD DVD software release of "M&MS".
"Whatever", indeed! :p

Why cant we just get over this whole "I would never pay that much money for one movie" issue and move on. If you don't want to pay then just stay away from it. No one is forcing you to buy in to it at all. Me personally, I will be importing it as soon as Tony starts carrying it. I'd rather get it right now for about $40 or $45 shipped then wait for it to come out on Blu Ray (if it ever does) and pay $34.99 at Best Buy because its a FOX title.

Why cant we just get over this whole "I would never pay that much money for one movie" issue and move on. If you don't want to pay then just stay away from it. No one is forcing you to buy in to it at all. Me personally, I will be importing it as soon as Tony starts carrying it. I'd rather get it right now for about $40 or $45 shipped then wait for it to come out on Blu Ray (if it ever does) and pay $34.99 at Best Buy because its a FOX title.

Amen. And let's face, don't we ALL want to see Angelie in HD? :p

Amen. And let's face, don't we ALL want to see Angelie in HD? :p

Yup! :D

Amen. And let's face, don't we ALL want to see Angelie in HD? :p

wtf is an angelie

wtf is an angelie

nekkid version of Angelina Jolie? :p

Darn you just beat me to it,I knew people who spend 70,80,90 & sometimes up to $100.00 buko dollars :eek: I love the Abys but not $100 big ones without the director's cut at that!!!



Djoel


And $120 for Criterion LD of The Man Who Fell To Earth. (extras included Bowie commentary not featured on any DVD release to date)

oops I misspelled Angelina. :o :p

Amen. And let's face, don't we ALL want to see Angelie in HD? :p
Finally, a subject that could bring the two HD media warring factions together! :cool:

Any update on when Xploited will be getting this?

Tony says he is looking for it on Thursday or Friday. He will put it on the site for ordering as soon as he has the discs in stock.

Who is this tony you speak of? I wonder if Xploited will get this. They have great shipping rates, and the webpage is in english :) Shipping from Kentuky is affordable. I want UK Terminator2, Underworld Extended Edition. Fantastic Four. Prefer to order from USA based companies tho. Anyone have any other suggestions besides Xploited for these 3 titles?

Who is this tony you speak of? I wonder if Xploited will get this. They have great shipping rates, and the webpage is in english :) Shipping from Kentuky is affordable. I want UK Terminator2, Underworld Extended Edition. Fantastic Four. Prefer to order from USA based companies tho. Anyone have any other suggestions besides Xploited for these 3 titles?

Tony is xploited.

but does anyboidy knows if xploited will be bringing all those titles?? Underowld and silent hill are still far away, but Fantastic four in HD from Germany is only 2 weeks agead. And is not even listed on amazon.de!!! the others are so I don't mind, but heck I'd love to see that movie in HD.

but does anyboidy knows if xploited will be bringing all those titles?? Underowld and silent hill are still far away, but Fantastic four in HD from Germany is only 2 weeks agead. And is not even listed on amazon.de!!! the others are so I don't mind, but heck I'd love to see that movie in HD.
He said in his email reply to me, that he would be getting every title with an English audio track.

He said in his email reply to me, that he would be getting every title with an English audio track.


GREAT!!!! Can't wait to get those!!!!!

He said in his email reply to me, that he would be getting every title with an English audio track.

I really hope he will get all import exclusives in his stock, but according to a answer he has given to Damed, he will only get imports with english subtitles.. I think he shouldn't care about the subtitles as long the audiolanguage is english..



i will be carrying Apocalypto as long as it has english subtitles. right
now i don't know, but should know as the release date approaches.
thanks!

tony
I emailed Tony at XPLOITEDCINEMA about this.
So hopefully it has english subs!

some of the movies he has in stock doesn't have English subtitles (but yes they are in English). eg. The Pianist, XxX, Brothers Grimm

Tony (Xploited) said he would have these on Friday and the price would be $40.

hope he also brings fantastic four in a fex weeks!

some of the movies he has in stock doesn't have English subtitles (but yes they are in English). eg. The Pianist, XxX, Brothers Grimm
If you can understand english then you really don't need the subtitles.

I can understand English but I am deaf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean recently my hearing got impaired.

I can understand English but I am deaf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean recently my hearing got impaired.

Now that sucks! Pity lip reading doesn't work. But that's a fair enough reason to have english SDH subtitles.

If you can understand english then you really don't need the subtitles.

some people in this world are hearing impaired. I'm not one of them but my cousin is. Also my HT setup is right below my daughter's room and the only time for me to watch movies mostly at night time so I can only set the volume level to whisper level making understanding speech impossible.

just to add: my first sentence goes to the fact that every US NTSC broadcast should have Close Caption just for this reason. There is a huge number of people with hearing impairment.

Like I said....fair enough!

Like I said....fair enough!

not attacking you, mate :o I just didn't see your response before I posted my explanation.

I really hope he will get all import exclusives in his stock, but according to a answer he has given to Damed, he will only get imports with english subtitles.. I think he shouldn't care about the subtitles as long the audiolanguage is english..

The reply you quoted from Tony at Xploited is specifically regarding Apocalypto. This is disc is a special case because there is only one available soundtrack and it's in Mayan so it wouldn't be much good to us without English subtitles.

Pan's Labrynth is in the same boat, only has Spanish audio track (even when it showed in Theaters in USA). It needs english subs.

Lucky for us not many movies fall into this category.

The reply you quoted from Tony at Xploited is specifically regarding Apocalypto. This is disc is a special case because there is only one available soundtrack and it's in Mayan so it wouldn't be much good to us without English subtitles.

Oh, i didn't know, because i haven't seen this movie..
But isn't it usually "burned" in translations in the movie when they talk another language?? Alot of movies i've seen released have subtitles like this in english regardless of your choice of subtitles.. (The experience i have is from DVD)

Heres a few more titles distributed by Monolith in Poland with English sountracks:

Angel A
Authur and the Invisibles
Ballistic
Beowulf and Grendel
Blair Witch Project
BloodRayne
DOA: Dead Or Alive
The Butterfly Effect
The Four Feathers
Godzilla vs. ?
The Others
Kill Bill vol. 1 & 2
Tideland
Bulletproof Monk
Memento
My Big Fat Greek Wedding
Monster (2003)
Mortal Kombat
Bridge to Terabithia
Stir of Echos
Premonition
Memoirs of a Geisha

Not an exhaustive list but there are a few blu-ray (US) exclusives in there.

These are not announced HD DVDs, just DVDs distributed by Monolith

Tony (Xploited) said he would have these on Friday and the price would be $40.

It's in stock now at xploited for $39.95.

It's in stock now at xploited for $39.95.

Holy F&#$! It's like ye olde LD times! :eek:

I'd be very interested to know the aspect ratio of Tideland, since that has been a pretty hot topic.

The US domestic DVD is incorrect and cropped to 1.78, and while some import DVD's are 2.35, Gilliam says it should be more like 2.20.

$40 is a bit too expensive but I think Tony had mentioned that the pricing would be high owing to a weakening USD.

$40 is a bit too expensive but I think Tony had mentioned that the pricing would be high owing to a weakening USD.

It's about what Fox would have list priced it if they hadn't canceled.

LOL! So true!

The domestic dvd is 2.35 not 1.78... not sure which version you bought but the US version I have is OAR

This is one of the "announced" Fox titles I bought a Blu ray player for. I ordered it from Xploited just on principle.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=880024 (http://http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=880024)

Xploited is stocked!

One of the reason's I love this film so much is after viewing on Comcast HD I was stunned by how good this movie sounds. Sure theres better out there but this is one I enjoy heavily.

So, I was wondering which audio track is preferred? I noticed this has both dts and DD+ but I'm assuming the DD+ track would be the one to go with...? So for those that actually own the title please comment on it. Thanks

The domestic dvd is 2.35 not 1.78... not sure which version you bought but the US version I have is OAR

You're confusing two different movies. Bunkaroo was talking about the film "Tideland", which was cropped to 16:9 on DVD against the director's wishes.

Mr. & Mrs. Smith is indeed 2.35:1 on DVD.

Is the Polish release the PG13 or UNRATED edition?

Is the Polish release the PG13 or UNRATED edition?
How can i find out?? Is it useful with the lenght of the movie?? It is 115 min.

It's the theatrical cut!

Just popped this one in for a sec. The pic quality is top notch stuff. Very sharp, clear and lots of 3D pop. Yes, it is a VC-1 encode. The DTS track seems quite good for the couple scenes I checked out. CANNOT wait to watch this, it looks fantastic!!I would like to post pics but my files are always too large, any tips or suggestions?

Please downsize the pics to 1024x768 or 1280x1024. Try uploading it to turboupload or imageshack.

So for the BEST audio the dts soundtrack is preferred??

Got mine in today (Thursday) and watched it. Looked very good. It's a natural looking image and a tad soft but pleasing and good detail. I preferred the Dolby Digital track myself. Nice to get this gem in HD DVD. :)

So for the BEST audio the dts soundtrack is preferred??

Sorry, I just checked and the 2nd audio track is DD+. I didnt have alot of time to make a comparison but the scene I did check out with the DD+ audio did sound fantastic. I will make a more direct comparison tomorrow. Both sounded great at this point. You should be pleased.

Just watched my copy of Mr and Mrs Smith on HD-DVD. I got mine from Xploited. PQ is very good. I would give it 4.5/5. I enjoyed the movie the second time around on HD and am glad I got it.

Two bits of info on the HD-DVD release:

No forced subtitles. Just need to turn off the default Polish subtitles and this is pretty straightforward compared to the Japanese imports.
Angelina Jolie still looks HOT in HD.

ya i just watched this again last night too. Looks great. Well worth the purchase.

I received and watched last night.

It is the theatrical release.
I had no issues with playability.

To my ear, the DD+ track had more "Wow" factor than the stock DTS, even downmixed to DTS thru TOSlink.

I had to turn off the default Polish subs with the remote... no big deal.
Faster than navigating a menu, anyway ;)

Now, I'm no reviewer, but I would call PQ closer to a 3.5/5 .
Other than a slim few scenes, it just seemed to lack that dimensional "pop" factor that gets so bantied about & can be compaired on many other releases.

Not bad... and very nice in HD, just not impressive as some.
In fact, I think reviews should include a SD->HD "Enjoyment Differential" rating :D
And in that case, I'd say this release is so action oriented and paced such that I would caution, One may not enjoy a $40 difference if he or she already owns the Standard release.

Just MHO..
But... you know what they say about opinions :D

BTW... I live in rural Upstate NY, and received from Tony in 2 days! :)

Now, I'm no reviewer, but I would call PQ closer to a 3.5/5 .
Other than a slim few scenes, it just seemed to lack that dimensional "pop" factor that gets so bantied about & can be compaired on many other releases.

I thought there was a fair amount of "pop" with respect to PQ throughout the movie. One scene that stands out in my mind is when John Smith visits his wife at work after getting the address and he asks what time is dinner. I thought Angelina's face was so sharp. I hit rewind and showed it to my brother and he was impressed, too. I can't cite other scenes, but I remember smiling a lot and thinking, "Wow this looks good in HD."

I'd say this release is so action oriented and paced such that I would caution, One may not enjoy a $40 difference if he or she already owns the Standard release.

Good point, but I think because of the action and pace it's such a fun movie (and relatively clean) that you will get a lot of mileage from the purchase. I'll be showing this one off to friends and family and anyone else who wants to see it.

Price difference for me is really between US and import HD-DVD--not SD and import. I'm looking to upgrade my collection to HD-DVD. It was worth the $25 for me if you look at it that way.

Like you said, I'm no reviewer, but I'm really happy with this import purchase :)

Yup... I'm happy I grabbed it, as well.
Just wanted to caution that it's pricey-pricey, even for a import & some folks might not feel the perceived quality difference to be worth the upgrade (and it is most definately an upgrade).
As a initial purchase of the title... well heck yes :D

Now that a fair sampling of people have had a chance to watch this nice little import gem, and it has passed technical muster for most, I think I'll throw a couple of tech specs out there to chew on...

Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Polish import HD DVD

Running time: 1:59:40 (case indicates 115 min., probably what it runs in PAL)
1080p/24 VC-1 (case indicates 1080i)
Disc size: HD-15
File size: ~13 GB
Audio: (English) DD+ @ 448 kbs/DTS-HD @ 960 kbs

Just some things to consider.

Now, I'm no reviewer, but I would call PQ closer to a 3.5/5 .
Other than a slim few scenes, it just seemed to lack that dimensional "pop" factor that gets so bantied about & can be compaired on many other releases.


That's about right. Good, but not great.
J

Just wanted to caution that it's pricey-pricey, even for a import & some folks might not feel the perceived quality difference to be worth the upgrade (and it is most definately an upgrade).
As a initial purchase of the title... well heck yes :D

Ah, I see your point. You're absolutely right, it is more expensive than other imports.

Thanks for the info. A cheap HD-15 for $40 ?

Honestly, I'll wait for the Blu-ray, it's inevitably going to be superior in a number of ways and I'm not dying to own it anyway.

Honestly, I'll wait for the Blu-ray, it's inevitably going to be superior in a number of ways and I'm not dying to own it anyway.

how do you know?

Thanks for the info. A cheap HD-15 for $40 ?

who cares as long as the PQ and AQ are good. :rolleyes:

I dont think it matters that its HD-15. There is still a marked inprovment in PQ over the HBO-HD version i had sitting on my DVR. That and the fact that the sound is better made it all worth it for me.

Thanks for the info. A cheap HD-15 for $40 ?

Yep. Not at all unlike the majority of Fox's BD releases (BD25, little or not supps, $40 retail).

I dont think it matters that its HD-15.

Just for the record, I don't think it matters either. The purpose of my post was an informational one. Also, to get folks to think about what our priorities are, or should be. Is it more important that a movie be on a dual layer disc with a bit rate that pegs the meter, or that a good movie look and sound good?

The movie may look and sound good on a HD-15 but I am sure some portion of PQ would have been compromised to squeeze into 15 Gigs. The Japanese HD broadcast max bit rate is 24 Mbps in comparison to the standard 18.5 Mbps in other parts of the world. I always felt that Batman Begins looked better via HD cable than HD DVD. As far as Hi-Definition is concerned PQ/SQ comes first and should never be compromised and taken for granted by the Studios and eventually forcing us to double dip.

This is only my opinion. It may be moronic but to me this is what HD is all about.

The movie may look and sound good on a HD-15 but I am sure some portion of PQ would have been compromised to squeeze into 15 Gigs.

How are you sure?

Both sides of the argument regarding storage capacity are valid, as we don't know what the source being encoded actually looks like. However, I like to argue that the biggest available disc capacity should be used. Using most of an HD-30 takes a lot of the guess work out, and leaves you comfortable in believing that you are getting the best looking encode possible. Mr. and Mrs. Smith is 2 hours in length, so it is valid to believe that video quality is suffering with an HD-15. I certainly don't know, but spending $40 on an HD-15 product for a movie of this length would leave me feeling a bit gypped. That's just my opinion of course.

Sure = deja vu !!!
HD to me >= 30 GB = Think Big.

I understand now. 50 Gb looking like crap is better than 15 Gb looking spectacular. I see... I see... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Mr. David -> None of the 50 GB BD titles I own have sub-par PQ. They don't suffer from any kind of compression artifacts. They are not compressed or squeezed into BD-25 just for the heck of it.

They all look and sound great. They have either uncompressed PCM 5.1 or TrueHD or DTS-HD audio.

Let me continue watching Blood Diamond and Bourne 1 & 2 on HD-30.

Mr. David -> None of the 50 GB BD titles I own have sub-par PQ. They don't suffer from any kind of compression artifacts. They are not compressed or squeezed into BD-25 just for the heck of it.

They all look and sound great. They have either uncompressed PCM 5.1 or TrueHD or DTS-HD audio.

Let me continue watching Blood Diamond and Bourne 1 & 2 on HD-30.

that's not the point. There are lots of BD25 titles that also look better than, say, Click! BD50. Size matters up to a certain point. Beyond that, it's marketing.

Mr. David -> None of the 50 GB BD titles I own have sub-par PQ.

Try Dirty Dancing.