View Full Version : Blu-ray release statistics - info and site - more BD50s than BD25s for 2007
I was wondering about Blu-ray statistics and came up with an idea to create a simple site that allows all kinds of filtering and sorting, giving stats on the filtered selection.
The site can be seen at http://www.blu-raystats.com/.
Using the filtering I have noticed the following interesting statistics:
Almost 2/3 of the releases this year have been BD50s.
Sony has released more BD50s than BD25s since inception.
MPEG2 is still the most popular codec so far in 2007 but AVC is only 5 titles behind.
The average Box office (domestic) of a BD movie is over $66M. Buena Vista leads that race with an average over $80M! Fox's average is close behind and also over $80M.
Anyways, have fun with it.
Cheers!
Wendell R. Breland 07-04-07, 08:29 PM Very nice work. Thank you!!
I hope to get some graphs and things going... should be fun :)
Also feel free to PM me if you see errors... most of the info is gleaned from the internet and you know how reliable that can be :cool:
whippersnapper 07-04-07, 08:35 PM Very, very nice! Thanks for doing this.
Bookmarked. Very helpful, thanks for putting it together.
UxiSXRD 07-04-07, 11:19 PM Very nice. Kudos.
beatboy77 07-04-07, 11:42 PM EXCELLENT!!
~Josh
BTBuck1 07-04-07, 11:51 PM I see what I imagine has to be an error, Training day is a BD50?
eric10301 07-05-07, 01:08 AM Quite impressive.
chefboy1 07-05-07, 01:52 AM Great job! Is it possible to add Year Of Release and Genre? I'm tired of hearing how BD doesn't have any variety or catalog titles...
Grubert 07-05-07, 04:10 AM Excellent job.
One suggestion:
For greater readability, you should round off the box office stats. "$ 113330342" is hard to read (MS DOS anyone?;) ); "$ 113.3M" is better.
Digitalspice 07-05-07, 09:36 AM Very neat! :cool:
Some correctrions to your BD50 titles, The following are all BD25's:
Entrapment
Invincible
Mission Impossible
Mission Impossible II
Mission Impossible III
Music & Lyrics
Night At The Museum
Resident Evil: Apocalypse
The Sentinel
JBlacklow 07-05-07, 09:42 AM Phloyd, I have to congratulate you. I've been putting together a very similar list for personal purposes, but I looks like I can just use yours. I do have a bunch of small corrections and suggestions, which I can post either here or on PM, whichever you'd like.
ETA: I figured I'd post them here, since it'd be more constructive if others could comment on them. Here goes:
I'd suggest another field for audio codec(s). In my list, I only have the primary audio track, unless there are two "equal" tracks, then I have them both (for instance, DD/DTS or PCM/TrueHD).
I have a separate field that I call "Technical Notes", which includes anything notably different average releases. This includes such items as BD-J content, audio that is not 5.1, 20-bit or 24-bit PCM/DTS:MA/TrueHD, D-Box support, and PiP. Not incredibly important, but still useful.
I also have a breakdown of statistics similar to what you include at the bottom of the page. Perhaps you could add one for the audio codecs?
There are a couple titles missing:
Nov 21, 2006 - "Elvis Costello & The Imposters: Live in Memphis" (Eagle Vision)
Feb 27, 2007 - "Nature's Colors With The World's Greatest Music" (WEA)
Apr 17, 2007 - "Debbie Does Dallas...Again" (Vivid)
All in all, your effort is superior to mine, and you went the extra step of providing public access. Good job!
Thanks for the suggestions and corrections.
My method for loading the 'matrix' was somewhat automated so occasionally errors sneak in.
The audio field is there but so few are populated that it is not 'live' yet. There is also a tag field (for BD-J, PiP etc) that is not visible, and eventually I hope to do something with that also.
Thanks again.
Cheers!
Can we get this sticky'd in some form or another?
This site is great.
PHP/mySQL I assume? :cool:
sycho316 07-05-07, 02:02 PM Excellent work!
PHP/mySQL I assume? :cool:
Hand crafted PHP using mySQL indeed :cool:
Very neat! :cool:
Some correctrions to your BD50 titles, The following are all BD25's:
Invincible
Mission Impossible
Mission Impossible II
Music & Lyrics
Resident Evil: Apocalypse
The Sentinel
HighDefDigest appears to disagree on these ones, though they are incorrect for Resident Evil at least.
I will change them as I find out 'the truth' :)
I do wonder though if the single releases of the Mission Impossible discs are different from the box set.
Any thoughts on that?
Rich Peterson 07-05-07, 03:03 PM If you move your mouse cursor over some of the titles a hotlink pops up to amazon.com where you are allowed to "buy now". It doesn't happen on most of the titles so I'm not sure if you intended that or not.
To see it try: A View from Space With Heavenly Music (Blu-Ray)
xbdestroya 07-05-07, 03:19 PM HighDefDigest appears to disagree on these ones, though they are incorrect for Resident Evil at least.
I will change them as I find out 'the truth' :)
I do wonder though if the single releases of the Mission Impossible discs are different from the box set.
Any thoughts on that?
Phloyd, for good cross-referencing, use Benes BD specs thread - on any title that he has checked, it will give you the definitive information. The Mission Impossible's are among them, at the minimum. (and they are 25GB)
I think it's an awesome chart you've created, by the way.
If you move your mouse cursor over some of the titles a hotlink pops up to amazon.com where you are allowed to "buy now". It doesn't happen on most of the titles so I'm not sure if you intended that or not.
To see it try: A View from Space With Heavenly Music (Blu-Ray)
That is intentional.
If the pop up is annoying, I can stop that from happening.
I figure it is good to see the Amazon price without opening a new window.
Eventually they will all have Amazon links (with or without the pop up enhancer) which can be used to 'support the site' at no extra cost to those who use Amazon :)
The question on the MI titles is whether the individual discs are the same as the Box Set. HighDefDigest lists the individuals as BD50 and the box set as BD25s.
Donnie Eldridge 07-05-07, 04:13 PM Very nice!!! :D
jkcheng122 07-05-07, 04:29 PM sticky worthy info there for sure, once the bd25/bd50 issues are sorted out and are more correct.
for audio specs, instead of listing the codecs, it may be easier to just have a "Lossless?" category and provide check marks that feature any of the lossless audio codecs with a superscripted number designating the codecs.
JBlacklow 07-05-07, 05:05 PM for audio specs, instead of listing the codecs, it may be easier to just have a "Lossless?" category and provide check marks that feature any of the lossless audio codecs with a superscripted number designating the codecs.I disagree, but only partly because it's my suggestion ;). IMO, it's better to know what it is in the entry then to keep on scrolling to the bottom of the page to refer to a legend.
svalentine 07-05-07, 05:08 PM Excellent job.
One suggestion:
For greater readability, you should round off the box office stats. "$ 113330342" is hard to read (MS DOS anyone?;) ); "$ 113.3M" is better.
I Agree! Also, looking forward to the audio part to go live.
Some small formatting changes including the box office rounding.
Do weigh in on the amazon pop ups (for or against) since I want the site to be useful, not 'overtaken by advertising' ;)
On the plus side you can see the amazon price right away - on the other hand it could be annoying...
Audio will go live once it is populated enough to be useful - that may take a while with all these discs to deal with...! :)
Digitalspice 07-05-07, 07:23 PM HighDefDigest appears to disagree on these ones, though they are incorrect for Resident Evil at least.
I will change them as I find out 'the truth' :)
I do wonder though if the single releases of the Mission Impossible discs are different from the box set.
Any thoughts on that?
Hidefdigest is notorious for being incorrect on their disc size specs
Makes we wonder if the reviewer actually even looks at the disc.
The corrections I have listed have been personally verified.
The Mission: Impossible movies are all BD25, both the box set and the single releases, with MI III being a two BD25 disc set.
Odds are you're busy with getting everything squared away, but heres a request for a feature :).
If you're doing this like I think you are, you have a main PHP template program that will just sort the query's by the variables passed by the filter HTML form.
If that's the case, possible to add a second form with a series of checkboxes down the table row and a "Select" button of some sort at the base?
Could even be a separate link that just passes a boolean true or false var to the form, which then displays the column of checkboxes and the form.
Meaning I see all the movies available on Blu-ray in one convenient and well organized, spec'd & giant list. I can walk down the list one by one and check all the ones I'd like, hit select, and it just query's those titles from the database in a printable wishlist :D
Donno bout the rest of you, but with the ever increasing amount of titles, that'd be worth it's weight in gold in the coming months.
kingsmoit 07-05-07, 07:34 PM God, look at all the Lion's Gate films.
Where is Dune ?? :(
Good work though!
Meaning I see all the movies available on Blu-ray in one convenient and well organized, spec'd & giant list. I can walk down the list one by one and check all the ones I'd like, hit select, and it just query's those titles from the database in a printable wishlist :D
Heheh.
Sounds like a fun idea.
Currently all of the filtering is done at the SQL SELECT level. That is why it is so easy.
It should be possible to handle the task you mention somehow, though I may run into query string limits if I try to do it at that level... php should handle it if mySQL cannot...
Audio is live. It is sortable. Thanks to jblacklow for the data.
Filters and Stats for audio to come later... :)
Audio statistics are now included.
Interesting to see that over 50% of the discs have lossless audio.
Note that the lossless codecs total more than the lossless total - this is due to PCM and TrueHD both being on some titles.
I will put some Audio based filters in also - that is a little more complicated :)
Cheers!
JBlacklow 07-06-07, 03:54 PM It's...beautiful!
:)
Ok - all of the titles now have amazon links (feel free to use these if you like buying through Amazon - it supports the site with no cost to you! :) ) duplicates removed - corrections made - titles added.
Please let me know any errors or weirdness you might see.
On the weekend I will add more filters etc. if I get time.
Cheers!
I added a studio percentage pie chart today - if people like it I will add more pie charts...
Hell, will probably add more pie charts anyways :)
Cheers!
Hesitant 07-08-07, 10:00 PM Add a region code too?
I have added fields for bitrate and region code in the database and will work on populating those fields.
They will go live when suitably populated.
'Region Free' status has gone live.
Note that it is sparsely populated. I hope we can fill this in more over time.
On an interesting note, the chart shows that (of the titles we know) almost 75% of them are region free.
Have fun!
JBlacklow 07-13-07, 01:46 PM Looks like Phloyd's hit the big time (http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/07/13/every-blu-ray-statistic-you-could-ever-crave/)! Let's hope you've got the bandwidth.
Looks like Phloyd's hit the big time (http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/07/13/every-blu-ray-statistic-you-could-ever-crave/)! Let's hope you've got the bandwidth.
Most of the images look piggyback'd from somewhere else, and the rest is just text and tables.
Bandwidth consumption should be low for him :)
Gads!
I guess I will see... :)
BTW, under development: http://www.blu-raystats.com/percentages.php for 'live' videoscan numbers and charts.
The Pie chart is real time generated on my site.
Otherwise it is all text based pretty much.
I will have to keep an eye on things but it is on a commercial server so it should be ok unless I go over quota.
Gads!
I guess I will see... :)
BTW, under development: http://www.blu-raystats.com/percentages.php for 'live' videoscan numbers and charts.
Now THAT is cool.
I've been wanting to do that for my own personal viewing, but you saved me the effort :)
I am open to ideas for other charts and stats. As long as the upkeep is not to much work.
I am wondering if I should make the images smaller though... this engadget situation could be problematic...
Nice work. This is exactly the type of information I was looking for.
Ok - I added a few more pies. Can never have too many pies! :)
I am not sure what to do with the audio information - it could result in many pies by itself. Maybe a separate page for all of those pies...
Have fun!
JBlacklow 07-16-07, 10:23 AM Stats for 7/17 titles:
Premonition
Sony
BD50
AVC
PCM
The Fifth Element (Remastered)
Sony
BD50
AVC
PCM/TrueHD 48kHz/20-bit
Waiting…: Unrated
Lionsgate
BD50
MPEG-2
PCM 7.1
Wild Things: Unrated
Sony
BD25
MPEG-2
PCM
Thanks - I will put these in tonight.
Neo1965 07-16-07, 12:14 PM Most Excellent.
Stats for 7/17 titles:
Wild Things: Unrated
Sony
BD25
MPEG-2
PCM
Beatboy lists this one as an AVC title (here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=865462)).
I believe he uses a PS3 so I tend to believe his assessment - any further data points here?
JBlacklow 07-16-07, 02:20 PM I don't have the title in hand, so I'd go with his word.
HDD now agrees that it is AVC encode.
The four new titles are now included.
I removed the old Fifth Element since it has been discontinued.
I also added a small FAQ that includes correction and suggestion email addresses that I will probably monitor from time to time :)
Have fun.
I have added a new set of Region Free data I got in an email.
Of the titles we know, now 80% show region free. Of course a lot of the Fox titles are unknown and very likely region coded, so I expect the real percentage to be a bit lower than that.
UxiSXRD 07-23-07, 06:50 PM Would it be too much to ask to mix in the info from the unofficial specs thread? I'm mostly interested in amount of space free in a fancy GUI. :D
Hehe - that is an interesting thought.
I was going to work on bitrate next, but perhaps other specs from that page would be interesting also.
Also new today:
Titles have been mapped as exclusive or not exclusive on both charts. The non-exclusive titles highlight in the format neutral colour (magenta ;) ).
You can also filter by exclusive now and see the affects in the charts (though the pie charts need to be updated yet).
Interestingly, the average price of Warner discs that are available in both formats is $1 more on HD DVD due to the combo pricing.
Paramount and Dreamworks are both equally available on both formats.
Warner still has 23 HD DVD exclusive titles, a combination of old stuff (that probably sold under 1000 copies) and stuff with IME, etc.
Have Fun!
Folks,
I revamped the Amazon pre-order page - hardly statistically significant but hopefully more complete, easier to follow and perhaps even useful to see what is coming.
I am going on vacation for most of August so my apologies in advance if new releases are not promptly put in the system - I will do what I can when I can get internet access.
Enjoy!
Back from vacation.
I have started working on getting more data from Amazon and presenting the stats based on that data.
It is not clear how best to present it - since Amazon has data for future releases, I may just create a second page or replace the Amazon preorder page rather than try to merge it with the current release stats.
Thoughts on this appreciated.
Cheers!
The Amazon stats page is now active and can be seen here (http://www.blu-raystats.com/amazonstats.php).
Basically it is similar to the old page except that it includes pre-order titles and can filter and sort by Release Date, Sales Rank, List Price, Amazon Price, Audience Rating (MPAA), Aspect Ratio and (my favourite!) Saving Percentage! :cool: All of the data here is grabbed from Amazon (and my differ from the truth / the other database!)
For example is it easy to see that 5 of the Disney titles are currently half off.
You can also display the cover images.
At the moment the data does not automagically update but that is planned.
There are also no 'stats' summary or pie charts yet - I am open to suggestion as to what would be useful to see in the summary.
Have fun! :)
I added a nifty feature today.
Now that there are stats based on the Amazon database, I realised that I can easily display all of the titles that are discounted more than 45% from list price.
So, the Amazon Pre-order Page (http://www.blu-raystats.com/amazon.php) now also contains Amazon Bargains.
This whole page updates every hour during the US waking hours and should automatically flag any sales titles.
I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner :)
Have fun...
Been a while since I touched the page code, but today I added a filter for BD-J.
The stats as a result are interesting...
Lionsgate seems to lead the field followed closely by Fox.
Disney has a few titles too and of course Digital Leisure.
The biggest surprises to me were that Lionsgate has the most BD-J discs and that Sony currently has none (though this should be remedied by the end of the year).
I also added a links page for useful and news links.
I am not sure how best to add display for BD-J, D-Box and other such features in the main page - ideas welcome.
Have fun as always! :D
SuprSlow 10-11-07, 09:07 PM That's great, Phloyd. Excellent work. :)
dildatonr 10-11-07, 09:20 PM Yeah seriously, I love these stat pages.
Matsfan 10-11-07, 09:29 PM Excellent work... thanks for sharing!
I have been thinking about the feasibility of adding pages to allow users to make lists of titles they own, want to eventually buy and maybe perhaps will buy some time...
I think it can be done without too much difficulty but wanted to gauge interest before setting to doing that.
Would people find that kind of thing useful?
In another interesting note, on Spider-Man week will also be the week that BD once again leads in release count if you subtract all of the Paramount and Dreamworks releases.
Also, I fully expect the number of BD50 releases to outnumber BD25 releases by the end of the year... I guess we will see ... some of these shorter movies have been released on BD25 lately so you never know :)
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