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admonish
07-09-07, 02:37 PM
Here’s a trade secret that Microsoft is unlikely to publicly acknowledge.

Sony’s cutting the price on the PlayStation 3. How will Microsoft react? We’ll find out soon. But a key part of the strategy is going to be a project code-named Falcon.

Falcon is the name for the latest internal electronics in the Xbox 360. It will have an IBM microprocessor and an AMD/ATI graphics chip that are manufactured in a 65-nanometer production process. These are cost-reduced chips that do the same thing as their 90-nanometer predecessors, but they’re smaller.

With smaller chips, Microsoft gets a bunch of benefits. They won’t generate as much heat. So the risks of overheating — one of the main reasons behind Microsoft’s billion-dollar write-off for repairs and extended warranties — are much lower. The chips may also cost half of what it took to make them before because they use less material and fewer manufacturing steps to produce.

Everyone knows that console makers cut the prices and costs on their consoles over time. But you may not be aware that the primary chips – microprocessor, graphics, and the Ana video processing chip – are the bulk of the cost of the machine. Microsoft started making the Xbox 360s in August, 2005, with a 90-nanometer process. It is overdue to switch to the newest technology, 65 nanometers, but that day has finally come. It may be some time — a year, maybe two — before it moves on the a 45-nanometer process.


...Microsoft is in the process of qualifying the new Falcon chips and motherboard this summer. I expect it will launch Xbox 360s with the new Falcon innards this fall. That is why the company has been able to say that it has solved its manufacturing quality problems. Microsoft is likely to spend a little more money on heat sinks to make sure that the overheating problem doesn’t resurface with Falcon.


...Now it’s easier to see why Microsoft still expects to be profitable in fiscal 2008 with the Xbox 360 business. In this fiscal year, Microsoft will introduce a major cost reduction with the Falcon platform. It will launch Halo 3. And it has already written off in fiscal 2007 the costs of repairing consoles for the next few years.


read the full article here (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/07/microsofts_next_move_code-name_falcon.html)

Goatse
07-09-07, 02:49 PM
still gonna use the Ana chip?? they better start making HDMI standard in their hardware.

jhferry
07-09-07, 02:54 PM
They wont do that or there is no Elite. HDMI is really the only reason to own an Elite.

VeeArSix
07-09-07, 02:58 PM
they should upgrade the HDMI port to v1.3 while they're at it.

jagouar
07-09-07, 03:00 PM
I will def consider upgrading to a white elite when one comes out with the new chips as well as a quieter dvd rom.

Already starting to feel the pinch of the 20 gig HD limit and really dont want to drop 180 on the 120 gig drive. So selling my 360 and putting that towards the elite would be about the same $ and I could get the new chips. I also think this is going to be over-engineered to hell because of all of the problems with 360's. I dont see MS making this same mistake again.

Charlie97L
07-09-07, 03:44 PM
this won't really offer any improvement, other than reduced failures... but we've known that.

i doubt hdmi 1.3 will be on there. it's pretty useless anyway, as the 360 can't do more than 2 ch lossless audio without a major revision, and deep color tvs are still well out of the price range of normal consumers.

brickyardz
07-10-07, 03:02 PM
When are the units with the new chips supposed to be available? Will we hear more about this at E3? I was just about to trade my premium in for an Elite,but if the new units will be out soon,I will wait.

HailTheHD
07-13-07, 12:41 PM
Will there be some sort of trade-in policy? Or will it probably stand above the Elite as a fourth xbox 360 option?

chad473
07-13-07, 12:48 PM
seriously doubt there will be any trade in policy, or even any specific announcement that they are out in retail. We'll likely find out about it after the fact.

tgable
07-13-07, 01:00 PM
Suddenly everyone will have an induced RRoD thanks to the new extension, just to get a new 65nm 360, LOL.

RAVEN56706
07-13-07, 01:05 PM
this is the reason why i havent opened my xbox elite yet