Just passing it on

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6427&Itemid=2

Also on the PS Blog:Link (http://blog.us.playstation.com/)
One quick thing before I head to the show for the last day. I just wanted to clarify something. I’ve seen a lot of posts this morning related to the 60GB SKU and the comments by SCEE President David Reeves. As we announced this week, SCEA’s product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of consumers for the foreseeable future.

The 80GB is probably cheaper to produce than the 60GB so I believe it will be phased out eventually by the 80GB.

The price difference of a 80GB HDD compared to 60GB is probably less than the cost of having the PS2 guts in the 60GB model. Sony said a long time ago they'd phase out the PS2 guts in favor of software emulation.

the key point i see there though is they did not say they are making more... just that they have more 60 gig versions to sell through.

if they really wanted to debunk this they should have come out and said we are still producing the 60 gig version and not the line of "we have enough for the forseeable future)

Also on the PS Blog:Link (http://blog.us.playstation.com/)

Nothing in Karraker's quote is an outright denial that the 60 GB PS3 would be discontinued.

Also, credit to dad1153 for this link:

http://atvs.vg.no/player/?id=10235

From the mouth of Kaz Hirai himself, the 60 GB PS3 will be discontinued. I don't know about you guys, but between Karraker and Hirai, I'd give more weight to what Hirai says.

What about Sony's price cut denials up to the 11th hour... link (http://ps3center.net/story-672.html)

The question isn't whether or not the 60gb will be discontinued; this is a certainty. They will sell through their existing stocks. The 80gb will be manufactured going forward. I think what was misrepresented is the time frame. The 60gb will cease to be $499 only when there ceases to be any 60gb units! There is no shortage that dictates this will happen by the end of July.

What most likely will happen is that once the outstanding supply of 60gb has sufficiently dwindled, the base 80gb (sans Motorstorm) will be $499. They will also offer some form of package deal at the $599 price point.

The question isn't whether or not the 60gb will be discontinued; this is a certainty. They will sell through their existing stocks. The 80gb will be manufactured going forward. I think what was misrepresented is the time frame. The 60gb will cease to be $499 only when there ceases to be any 60gb units! There is no shortage that dictates this will happen by the end of July.

What most likely will happen is that once the outstanding supply of 60gb has sufficiently dwindled, the base 80gb (sans Motorstorm) will be $499. They will also offer some form of package deal at the $599 price point.

That's just wild speculation.

Also, the 60 GB PS3 production has already been halted (discontinued, if you will) around the same time as the price cut announcement and Sony predicts that existing 60 GB stock will sell out by the end of July.

Its not a bad thing at all... If you want a PS3 for 499 buy it now, its a 60gb model period. If you want to wait for 80gb version that comes packaged with a game then wait for the 599 SKU.

It is that simple, I am not sure why are you getting worked out right now. The 80gb wont be here until aug 1.

If you want to get a 60GB ( no difference, besides the removal of the EE ) for 500 get it now.

I am not sure whats the deal.

That's just wild speculation.

Also, the 60 GB PS3 production has already been halted (discontinued, if you will) around the same time as the price cut announcement and Sony predicts that existing 60 GB stock will sell out by the end of July.

Two days ago..or so.. they hault production on the 60gig, and they will sell however many millions of units that are in the pipeline in less than three weeks..Yep no speculation there at all....It's ALL speculation..who gives a Rats behind? Play what you have or buy what you want. They sold at 599 and they'll contiune to sell at 499. This whole price cut fiasco/ bickering is nothing but speculation....POINTLESS speculation.

That's just wild speculation.

Also, the 60 GB PS3 production has already been halted (discontinued, if you will) around the same time as the price cut announcement and Sony predicts that existing 60 GB stock will sell out by the end of July.

Do you have a source for that? THey produced 6 million PS3s.. and 3.7 have sold. Does anyone really expect the last 2.3 million to sell in one month?

LOL I am not going to comment at all. Specially at the above post.

Ok so europe has about 1.2 Mill, US about 1.3 and Jap at least 900+ so how does that make 3.7? Plus lets not forget that even if 60 does not sell by the end of the month, there should be a few left for others to pick up once the new unit comes out.

They will be indentical - the game, and 20gb less hdd.

That's just wild speculation.

Also, the 60 GB PS3 production has already been halted (discontinued, if you will) around the same time as the price cut announcement and Sony predicts that existing 60 GB stock will sell out by the end of July.
Of course it's speculation, but there's nothing wild about it. Hence the use of "most likely."

A few SCEA spokespersons have already come forward and noted that the end of July time frame is not correct. In fact, they are not willing to pin down any concrete timetable, only allowing that the 60gb will be available at $499 for "the forseeable future."

Now, let's use some common sense here. If you predict that the 60gb units will be spoken for going into 4Q07, do you not think that SCEA will have a $499 SKU available for the holidays?

If they sell out the current stock of 60gb models by the end of July, that means there will be 6 million PS3s in homes worldwide in under 9 months. I fail to see how that's a bad thing no matter how you look at it.

That's just wild speculation..

ROFL!! Both of the threads are full "wild speculation" by internet jockeys.

i just swa online interview with sony executive, he did say 60gb are no longer in manufacturing

I predict sometime in the next years a version with a bigger hd will come and phase-out even the 80GB. Some of you guys might want to wait for that one.

Of course there's plenty of stock right now. Not like these things are selling like hotcakes.

the other thread about this is already closed. i dont think this one is going to make any more of a constructive topic out of it.

So sad. Sony had built up goodwill with the price cut, only it turns out to be a bait and switch.

I guess their $499 price-point will be the quarterly get-rid-of-old-stock liquidation price.

I guess this is like dumping 2006 HDTV models when new, better HDTV 2007 models come out.

This will work out for Sony. Not only do they get to avoid using older, smaller, more expensive hard drives, they get to dump the PS2 hardware and they get to maintain a margin.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6175011.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;1

As a speculator of your speculating, I speculate that the speculation has become too speculatory.

Sony really has their heads up their you know what.

Do they not realize that if a PS3 owner wants to up their storage they can, and this is a bold new idea, switch their HDD for a higher capacity one???

It's like Sony thinks PS3 owners are too stupid to switch out the HDD.

They are selling a truckload of PS3's now. I just came back from Best Buy in downtown NYC earlier today and they reported to me "much more brisk sales of PS3" to the point they have ordered new stock.

Unbelievably stupid.

As a speculator of your speculating, I speculate that the speculation has become too speculatory.
I agree.....I think.

As a speculator of your speculating, I speculate that the speculation has become too speculatory.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/Graham_Chapman_Colonel.jpg/180px-Graham_Chapman_Colonel.jpg

Stop that, your post is far too silly.

Can someone please put a stop to this?!?!

Can someone please put a stop to this?!?!
Heh, hopefully this thread gets locked before the ORLY bird comes out :p

Once the 60 GB PS3s are phased out, if Sony doesn't have the 80 GB model at 499 then all this whining is something I can agree with.

Heh, hopefully this thread gets locked before the ORLY bird comes out :p

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1808/cnrc6c5bgi4.jpg


Meh. Close enough. :D

I think it's far too early to tell if this move is a good one or a bad one by Sony. From a business standpoint it makes perfect sense to lower the price of the 60GB model to get the old stock out of the channel. I'm not sure that is the way that I would have handled it though. I think I would have just dropped the price on the 60GB, wait until it had sold out and then announced an 80GB version would be taking its place at the new price point.

Introducing the 80GB version with a Motorstorm pack in is a decent way to introduce the new model without cannabilizing sales of the 60GB. Dropping the price to $499 after the 60GB models are gone would be the next logical step. Ultimately Sony needs to get the price of their console down to $399 if they want to have a chance of mass acceptance. Historically, that is the highest price point at which people are willing to support a console in large numbers. If this move helps them get there, so be it. The longer they stay above the $400 mark in price the less likely they are to actually be able to achieve even a somewhat dominant position in the market this generation. With this new hardware revision and the falling cost of BD drives they should be able to do it, if not by the holiday season this year then certainly a year from now. But if it takes them that long will it be too little, too late?

Then what about this?

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14685

Karraker, who made the first denial, has issued updated statements.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/13/sony-says-60gb-is-not-over-in-us

Check out update 3 and 4, basically saying they are not making them anymore.

g4 just ran a story saying that kaz in an unedited recorded interview that once the 60gb sells out they'd be back to just 1 sku at 599 80gb.