Just curious if anyone is planning on getting the 80GB version.

Who knows, maybe they will have a new sixaxis with rumble and or HDMI cable. I know HDMI cables are cheap but (as we have seen) clearly the public does not. lol

The question should be: "Who will pay $100 for 20gb, Motorstorm and the PS1 and PS2 hardware removed from the system?"

Everyone will after they sell out the 60gb model. Or I should say, those willing to get taken advantage of! Big mistake By Sony, yet again.

I thought you had a 20 gig model and the MS game for a hundred bucks :eek:

HELL YA, I'LL TAKE IT!!!

Who would pay $600 for a 60g PS3 without a game?


get over it people.

too much money

The question should be: "Who will pay $100 for 20gb, Motorstorm and the PS1 and PS2 hardware removed from the system?"

This is the correct question you should be asking.

Everyone will be getting the 80GB - it just a matter of time. Until the 60GB clears out, I'm not entirely sure why you would though.

Everyone will be getting the 80GB - it just a matter of time. Until the 60GB clears out, I'm not entirely sure why you would though.

i guess when you have no choice you'd have to. tho you can probably wait until the 80gb model goes to $499.99. i understand they removed the emotion engine for backward compatibility with ps1/ps2 games, but to do so w/o adding anything else is a slap in the fact to the consumers. supposedly future 60gb models won't have this engine either.

since i care nothing for the ps1 and ps2 games, i wonder if i'd be able to sell my 60gb model for more than what i paid for?

When the 80GB annoucnment was made, I was certain that the 60GB would eventually lose the Emotion Engine after curren stocks have depleted, but the whole canceling of the 60GB came completly out of left field.

I know HDMI cables are cheap but (as we have seen) clearly the public does not. lol

thats because most people are idiots and go to best buy and the only kind they have there are the rip off 100.00 monster cable ones.

I'm guessing that by Thanksgiving all the 60G will be gone & the 80G with rumble will be $499 with no game included. :cool:

With the 80G hard drive costing the same or less than the 60G & with the removal of the emotion engine as well as many other cost effective processes in manufacturing I think this is a real possibility. :D

Has anyone heard if playing ps2 games on the ps3's that don't have the emotion engine in it look better? Will it be like the 360 which emulates the xbox hardware, and is thus able to upscale and add full scene antialiasing?

Sony's strategy is very clear. Their goal is to have a 80 gig unit, with Motorstorm in the box, available during the key months of October, November and December for $499.99. But to make this a reality, they need to clear stock of the current 60 gig model. So they dropped the price on the 60 gigger to $499.99, and announced a 80 gigger coming in August at $599.99. Once they completely clear the channel of the 60 gig unit, then they will announce another shocking price drop (yeah, right) for the 80 gigger. My guess is that on October 8th, Sony will announce a price drop for the 80 gigger.


Dave Karraker's statement on Monday October 8th:

"I'm pleased to announce that we are dropping the price of our 80 gig PS3 unit to $499.99 effective immediately. We are thrilled to have achieved some cost reductions on this unit, and we are passing the savings on to consumers. The sales of our 60 gig units at $499.99 exceeded our expectations, and we are thrilled to now be offering an even better package to consumers at that same price. For the same price, consumers can get 20 gigs more of storage space, and a great game in Motorstorm. We are also pleased to announce that specially marked boxes of the 80 gig unit will feature the new Sixaxis Touchsense controller. "

Sony's strategy is very clear. Their goal is to have a 80 gig unit, with Motorstorm in the box, available during the key months of October, November and December for $499.99. But to make this a reality, they need to clear stock of the current 60 gig model. So they dropped the price on the 60 gigger to $499.99, and announced a 80 gigger coming in August at $599.99. Once they completely clear the channel of the 60 gig unit, then they will announce another shocking price drop (yeah, right) for the 80 gigger. My guess is that on October 8th, Sony will announce a price drop for the 80 gigger.


That sounds very plausible. There is no way they could sell all the 60's sitting on store shelves and in warehouses if the 80's were $499. By making the 80 with Motorstorm a dubious value for $599, they'll encourage clearout of the 60's, and then re-align the 80 (perhaps without Motorstorm) at $499. Very sensible.

i almost bought a ps3 the day before the disontinuation was announced and Im SO glad I didnt. now when the 80 gig with rumble controller is released this holiday for 499 ill be set. I cant belive people are buying the 500 dollar ps3 now but im glad they are cuz the sonner they are gone the sooner the better same price model will release.

Has there been so much flip-flopping strategy from a game console maker as we've seen from Sony in such a short time span from PS3 release?

The 20gb and 60gb at launch,followed by the discontinuation of the 20gb,now to the discontinutation of the 60gb to make way for the 80gb.In 9 months.This time next year,the 80gb will have been discontinued to make way for the 120gb.

Has there been so much flip-flopping strategy from a game console maker as we've seen from Sony in such a short time span from PS3 release?

The 20gb and 60gb at launch,followed by the discontinuation of the 20gb,now to the discontinutation of the 60gb to make way for the 80gb.In 9 months.This time next year,the 80gb will have been discontinued to make way for the 120gb.
That's called evolving. If they were "flip-flopping" they'd be re-introducing the 20gb.

Motorstorm MSRP = $59.99
20GB external HD (have to use street price since most manufacturers don't list an MSRP) =$35-$45 on pricegrapper

I bet there are people who are paying that price, i.e. they are buying a copy of Motorstorm and a 20GB HDD for another purpose.

I love the bait and switch deal with the price cut then the 80GB version comming.
XD

That's called evolving. If they were "flip-flopping" they'd be re-introducing the 20gb.

Do you really think they'd be doing all this 'evolving' if the PS3 was selling like hotcakes?If PS3 was flying off the shelves, do you think you'd see a $100 price cut this soon?

I love the bait and switch deal with the price cut then the 80GB version comming.
XD

I love ridiculous illogical posts like this. They give me a new target for derision.

hell if i were sitting the fence to buy a ps3 and saw that you could get 20 extra gigs and a game for the same price that i could have bought a reg 60 gig. i would do that.

Do you really think they'd be doing all this 'evolving' if the PS3 was selling like hotcakes?If PS3 was flying off the shelves, do you think you'd see a $100 price cut this soon?
*sighs*

Frankly, I don't care. I've already got mine and I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

I cant belive people are buying the 500 dollar ps3 now but im glad they are cuz the sonner they are gone the sooner the better same price model will release.


You're welcome. (^: I just bought a 60GB, I got the free blue-tooth remote, and 6 blu-ray dvds, free also. I intend to install YDL. I can always add another drive later.

The disk prices will come down fast so I'm not sure that by the holidays a $499 80GB model is really different than a 60GB model now.

What will the rumble controllers cost? Is everyone certain that Sony will reduce the 80GB price? Sometimes prices tend to creep up near the holidays due to demand.

I'm no expert but I understand that software emulation for PS1/2 games is pretty good. I will probably buy some PS2 titles and I'm not too worried about the loss of the EmotionEngine.

*sighs*

Frankly, I don't care. I've already got mine and I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

You must care enough to respond? Anyway,I'm glad you're enjoying it.

People make so much noise about the emotion chip removed. Honestly how much are you missing out by not having it?

People make so much noise about the emotion chip removed. Honestly how much are you missing out by not having it?

About 19 percent of backwards compatibility. Apparently most of those games are not that important either. I guess it all depends on how that important is to you, not that important to me. All the games I have work.

Who is going to pay $100 for 20gb and Motorstorm?? The people who paid $100 for the 360 20 gb hd lmao........

Guys, get real!

The 80GB bundle is being released at 600USD, because it cannot outsell the 60GB. They have to make sure 60GB will be the biggest seller, so they can clear inventory. The 80GB version is simply a revision (the PS2 had a good 6-12 revisions). The 60GB would not sell if the 80GB was any cheaper.

So basically, $499 USD is the new price for the PS3. Once inventory clears, expect to see them drop the price on the 80GB to match the 60GB price levels. And also, expect a few very lucky customers to buy the few remaining 60GB PS3s for less than $499.

And also, expect a few very lucky customers to buy the few remaining 60GB PS3s for less than $499.



I'm not sure they are so lucky, if the 80 gig has the rumble controller and Motorstorm and it's $499.99. Now, if they get the 60 gig for $399.99, but if they get a brand new 60 gig for $449.99, I'd rather pay $50 more, and get the rumble controller, motorstorm and 20 extra gigs.

You're welcome. (^: I just bought a 60GB, I got the free blue-tooth remote, and 6 blu-ray dvds, free also. I intend to install YDL. I can always add another drive later.

Ditto! I also bought the same amazon deal, even with the belief that the 80GB will drop to $499 when 60GB inventory is gone).

Primarily because:
1. I've wanted one for a while and was waiting for a price drop, and I don't want to wait another indeterminate amount of time for the 60GB to sell out.
2. I want HighDef movies, and I finally feel Blu-ray is winning (just my feeling on this highly contentious issue, but I was waiting for a comfort level before taking the plunge into one format or the other.)
3. I didn't really want Motorstorm anyway, and with this bundle I get the BT remote, which I do want.
4. I do want vibration controllers, so I'll just wait to buy additional controllers until the new ones come out.

Ditto! I also bought the same amazon deal, even with the belief that the 80GB will drop to $499 when 60GB inventory is gone)

When the 60GB are gone and the 80GB are $499 the 60GB will look like a better deal that no long exists. Disk prices are probably artificially high now as it is. Sony saw retail numbers (not just for PS3, but ALL retail) dropping. To pump up the volume you lower the price. High margins and low volume or lower margins and higher volume? They are already losing money at $599 anyway. So they lose more money but gain more mindshare.

3. I didn't really want Motorstorm anyway, and with this bundle I get the BT remote, which I do want.



I think the BT remote is very good, it's much more responsive than any other remote I've had. We were playing with the photo album feature of the PS3 and we could hold the Next button down and it would scroll through the photos very fast. Now part of that is the PS3 and the application but part is the BT remote too.

4. I do want vibration controllers, so I'll just wait to buy additional controllers until the new ones come out.

Yeah, me too.

we'll be getting the 20 extra gigs and a game..... plus, we may be getting the 65nm cell revision and a rumble controller. If the last two pan out, then i'm going to return the PS3 I just bought. I'd gladly pay $100 more if they include the 65nm cell chip. The only problem I have with my PS3 is that the van is constantly audible during a standard def movie (I've got my PS3 standing verticle outside of my AV rack).

we'll be getting the 20 extra gigs and a game..... plus, we may be getting the 65nm cell revision and a rumble controller. If the last two pan out, then i'm going to return the PS3 I just bought. I'd gladly pay $100 more if they include the 65nm cell chip.


Just for persepective....20 extra gigs is not worth much and is worth less over time. The free game is good as game prices drop slowly, if at all. Depends on their popularity. The 65nm (which I can't tell is in PS3's or not yet) doesn't get you anything. It's cheaper to make so it helps Sony that they charge the same price for a cheaper cpu. Just curious, what did you think the 65nm chip would get you?


Rumble controller will be nice too. But it's very doubtful that Sony will be giving any incentives at all in near future. The increase in sales was expected by Sony to be %200 with the price drop. Amazon reported an increase of %3200.
Bye, bye incentives.



The only problem I have with my PS3 is that the van is constantly audible during a standard def movie (I've got my PS3 standing verticle outside of my AV rack).

It does generate some heat, I have mine vertical too. I haven't noticed the fan though. I wonder if they stream the video to harddisk and play from that? They should do since I think the optical drive uses more power than a harddisk.

I too will likely wait at least for the 80GB version to be released before making a purchase. My reasons are:
1 - I plan to buy Motorsport anyway, which is $60, so for $40 additional I'll be getting 20GB, or 1/3 more HD space
2 - The 65nm, if included, will supposedly run more efficienty which means cooler temps and less electricity
3 - Possibility of a better implemention of bluetooth -- which means less concern of the the wireless controllers over distance (I read something about the European model being better than the current US model in this respect)
4 - I too am hoping (though not expecting) the rumble controllers might be packaged with the 80GB model
5 - I won't have the $$$ until the first of the month anyway, so it's not a big deal, assuming the 80GB model is released at the beginning of August. Which begs the question, I've heard "August" for the new model -- anyone know an actual date in August for availability?

The 65nm (which I can't tell is in PS3's or not yet) doesn't get you anything. It's cheaper to make so it helps Sony that they charge the same price for a cheaper cpu. Just curious, what did you think the 65nm chip would get you?



Hi,

Well, the 65nm is potentially a big upgrade in my opinion. I realize that it will be clocked at the exact same speed (although dye shrinks allow for higher clock multipliers Sony would never do this an make the original versions inferior). Thus, there will be no performance gain. However, the major gain with 65nm is going to be less heat production, which in turn should require less fan usage. I would really like a quieter PS3, so if using a 65nm chip means less heat and less fan usage I'm all for it.

I realize there is no proof that the 65nm chip will show up in the 80gb version (or maybe it is already in my 60gb PS3), but anecdotal evidence (forum postings) suggest that the Korean 80gb PS3s may have the 65nm chip and run quieter. Who knows, but I would pay $100 for a PS3 that generates less heat/noise, and a game, and 20gb, and "maybe" rumble.

I'm going to hang onto mine for 2 more weeks, but if it looks like the 80gb version will incorporate the 65nm cell processor, then i'll return mine and get the 80gb version when it comes out. That's just my opinion though.