I have an Epson 1080 and an anmorphic lens and I'm going to be trying a Toshiba A2 HD-DVD player. My next projector is most likely going to be a JVC RS1.
What I am wondering is this:

With your RS1 and 1080 sources for anamorphic 2.35:1, how are you stretching them? Are you using a video processor? Which one? A VP50 or other?

I know I could use my iScan HD+ to stretch my 480i sources like I do now, but the 1080i de-interlacing of the HD+ is no match for the VP50, so if I used the HD+ to do the stretch, I'm stuck with the HD+ de-interlacing. With 1080p HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, I don't even know how I would stretch those unless I had at least a VP50, and even then, it may be better to use 1080i from an A2 than use 1080p from the XA2 or a Blu-Ray player. I'll check the video processor forum for the specifics, but I thought RS1 users would have some feedback about this and how they work it in their setups.

What lens do you have for your RS1?
How do you stretch (or squeeze) your source material including 1080p?

thanks,

:)

I use an Anthem AVM50 to do my vertical stretch. One HDMI cable from source to receiver and another to the projector. Lossless audio and vertical stretch in one box.

The Anthem has a similar video processor/chipset as the RS1 but it has less issues/is apparently better programmed. I output everything from the Anthem at 1080p into the HD1.

I use an Anthem AVM50 to do my vertical stretch. One HDMI cable from source to receiver and another to the projector. Lossless audio and vertical stretch in one box.

The Anthem has a similar video processor/chipset as the RS1 but it has less issues/is apparently better programmed. I output everything from the Anthem at 1080p into the HD1.

Good info.

What sources are you stretching?
Can you stretch all sources from 480i to 1080p?

I wonder how this compares to the VP50. Also, it's a Pre-Pro, so it's a different ball of wax in terms of component choices. I already have a receiver I like for my home theatre.

thanks

:)

I run PS3, Toshiba A2, and X360 elite mostly. Mostly watch blu-ray and HD-DVD, though Ive run a DVD in there once or twice.

Lumagen Radiance here for the stretch.

Shawn

Epson 1080 / UH380 / Lumagen ProHDP. What don't you like about the Epson 1080 ? Why not get the VP and try it first for awhile with an HD DVD or BluRay before switching PJ's. I'm pretty much loving mine so far. You can almost bet in 6 months or so something better than the JVC will come along, maybe even an updated JVC. For the VP the Lumagens do a great job converting 1080i to 1080p, I'm running 1080i from my Samsung 1200 BluRay and let the Lumagen do the scaling, it looks great.

Lumagen Radiance here for the stretch.
Shawn


"Lumagen Radiance" Smart A.. :) Shawn.

I use the VP50 with Panamorph U-100 lens, 235:1 10' HP ..it's lovely.

Shawn, why don't you start a thread or otherwise let us (me) know how the new Radiance Gamma or other controls have improved your RS1's image ?

Epson 1080 / UH380 / Lumagen ProHDP. What don't you like about the Epson 1080 ? Why not get the VP and try it first for awhile with an HD DVD or BluRay before switching PJ's. I'm pretty much loving mine so far. You can almost bet in 6 months or so something better than the JVC will come along, maybe even an updated JVC. For the VP the Lumagens do a great job converting 1080i to 1080p, I'm running 1080i from my Samsung 1200 BluRay and let the Lumagen do the scaling, it looks great.

I haven't decided to ditch the Epson 1080 just yet, it's just that I know I'll most likely want a projector with the contrast and black levels of the RS1 eventually. I will run my HD-A2 into the iScan HD+ and into the Epson, and also try the 1080i from the A2 straight into the Epson. I'll try both before going for something like a VP50 etc etc.

Using an HP HTPC with a Blu-Ray-HD-DVD Combo drive and stretching with software.
Prismasonic H-FE1500M (great lens, BTW). That is, I was for the two hours I had my RS1 before it died. Replacement due Tuesday.

Is anybody able to stretch a 1080i signal and pass it through a video processor as 1080i? And also, is anybody able to stretch a 1080p signal? What video processor?

BTW.. a reminder EDIT:

My setup now is:

Toshiba HD-A2> (not yet here)
SDI Panasonic CP72>
iScan HD+ DVI>HDMI>
Epson 1080>
Panamorph H1000>
Screen :)

Possibly moving to an RS1 within the next year and wondering how to stretch 1080i and 1080p signals :)

Is anybody able to stretch a 1080i signal and pass it through a video processor as 1080i?

Yes - any current Lumagen will do this.

And also, is anybody able to stretch a 1080p signal? What video processor?

Yes - any current Lumagen will do this, the only limitation is that the Vision series will accept a max of 1080p30 in the inputs.

The other option is to accept 1080i input on the scaler, use IVTC and send 1080p24/48/50/60 out - That is what I do on my Lumagen HDQ.

"Is anybody able to stretch a 1080i signal and pass it through a video processor as 1080i?"

I think most would take 1080i deinterlace it, scale/stretch it then turn around and reinterlace the signal back to 1080i. As such the deinterlacing in the player becomes important... and it seems sort of odd to reinterlace it just to turn around and deinterlace it in the projector one more time.

"And also, is anybody able to stretch a 1080p signal? What video processor?"

The Lumagen visions can accept 1080p24/30 and stretch it. The Radiance can do that as well as 1080p/60.

Shawn

"Shawn, why don't you start a thread or otherwise let us (me) know how the new Radiance Gamma or other controls have improved your RS1's image ?"

I can't do that right now. Other then confirming I have a Radiance I am under a NDA about its features, impressions and such for now. I think Jim@Lumagen was going to lift the NDA in Sept.

Sorry,

Shawn

What software you using? I have a Geforce 8600 GTS with DVI outputs and it works perfectly on my LCD TV. I haven't tried it through my projector yet as the cable isn't long enough. I was thinking about getting a combo drive and trying that very same thing, but not sure what software to use. WinDVD, PowerDVD..or is there something else that stretches.

I don't understand why these scalers cost 2k+. Probably because the market is so small that they can charge whatever they want.


Using an HP HTPC with a Blu-Ray-HD-DVD Combo drive and stretching with software.
Prismasonic H-FE1500M (great lens, BTW). That is, I was for the two hours I had my RS1 before it died. Replacement due Tuesday.

I am using Power DVD Ultra for playback and YXY (http://www.keohi.com/keohihdtv/htpc/yxy/yxy.html) for stretch. Seems to work fine although with the dead PJ I have not had much time to work on setup.

My plan was to use this system and wait to see if JVC adds scaling and/or until a combo player gets cheap enough. Then get a scaler. The real advantage to a scaler is that it can also scale cable and sat letter boxed.

Ok, so Lumagen for sure. I need to find out if the VP50 will do that too. I guess it will do it for 1080i and do good 1080i to 1080p de-interlacing... but I'm not sure for 1080p. I guess passing 1080i through stretched isn't essential as most vp will do good 1080i to p de-interlacing, better or at least equal to either of the Epson 1080 or JVC RS1.

Ok, so Lumagen for sure. I need to find out if the VP50 will do that too. I guess it will do it for 1080i... but I'm not sure for 1080p.
Dont forget about this: http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/packages.jsp?model_id=MDL101681&feature_id=06 which is rumored to be the VP50 in disguise...

I guess passing 1080i through stretched isn't essential as most vp will do good 1080i to p de-interlacing, better or at least equal to either of the Epson 1080 or JVC RS1.

Agreed, do the de-interlacing in the VP, only exceptions I can think of are special cases - like you have a CRT projector that works best at 1080i - even then you can do interesting things like send 1080i72 for judder free images. Also just becuse the input and output are the same, you can still use all the controls on the Lumagen to manipulate the image.