I made a huge mistake. I returned my 50" Vizio and purchased the 58" Panny about a month ago. The Vizio has a much sharper picture. I can't live with downgrading to a blury panasonic picture that reminds me of LCD's. The Vizio also has much better sound than the Panny. The extra eight inches of screen is not worth the downgrade in picture quality. Soon I'll have the Vizio back again and be happy. Plus, the Vizio has a more alive picture and watching tv feels like being there. I did not get that good feeling with the panny.

Where are you returning it to, and are they willing to exchange again. Will you also be getting a refund on the price difference?. Thanks.

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Where are you returning it to, and are they willing to exchange again. Will you also be getting a refund on the price difference?. Thanks.

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Costco. They have easy returns. It won't be an exchange, they will return the panny and give me cash. I'll then go and buy the 50" Vizio from them. I don't feel as bad with the return since they are making another sale right away.

Costco. They have easy returns. It won't be an exchange, they will return the panny and give me cash. I'll then go and buy the 50" Vizio from them. I don't feel as bad with the return since they are making another sale right away.

Did you consider the PX77 or PX75?? Just curious because their contrast ratio is
much better and I believe they're sharper too. Mind you, they're 720P.

Costco. They have easy returns. It won't be an exchange, they will return the panny and give me cash. I'll then go and buy the 50" Vizio from them. I don't feel as bad with the return since they are making another sale right away.

Well, good look with your new Vizio. How long did you have the previous one for?. What was about it that made you decide to exchange it for the Panny, the first time?. Thanks.

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Well, good look with your new Vizio. How long did you have the previous one for?. What was about it that made you decide to exchange it for the Panny, the first time?. Thanks.

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I had the Vizio 50" for almost three months. I returned it for the Panasonic 58" because of the name brand. I first noticed the Panny did not have as sharp a picture while watching Wheel Of Fortune in HDTV. The Panny had a slightly blury picture like most LCD's have. Then while watching a baseball game in HDTV I did not have the same "in the ballpark" feeling. The Vizio made me feel like I was in the front row seats. The panasonic made me feel like I was watching television and not like I was there.

I really wanted a 58" plasma, but I realized I was more happy with the better picture quality of the 50" Vizio.

The Vizio also has much better sound than the Panny. The extra eight inches of screen is not worth the downgrade in picture quality. Soon I'll have the Vizio back again and be happy. Plus, the Vizio has a more alive picture and watching tv feels like being there. I did not get that good feeling with the panny.

This is interesting. What is your video source? Have you calibrated the Panny?

You should really calibrate the Panny. I went from a 50" P50HDM Vizio that started showing large portions of the greyscale in pink(awesome trying to watch F1 cars racing on a pink track...) to a 58" Panny 600U.

In EVERY category the Panny blows the Vizio away. Much clearer picture, less SDE, much better blacks, just as bright if not a bit brighter, colors look more saturated, speakers on the set are 100x better(it's a night and day difference, so much so that I just watch OTA HD with the bult-in speakers), and a big one - the power supply on the Panny is dead quiet, while the Vizio was getting loud enough to hear in the next room with the sound muted on bright scenes.


I knew I was giving up some quality going with the Vizio at first, but it really shocked me just how much it was when I had them both side by side for a few days.


Not to mention the 58" is a much better size than 50" no matter how you slice it.

i cain't help but wonder if he did not get a bad unit the panasonic should have won in
every catagory.

I'd take a good hard look at your picture settings and your source before giving up on a nice panel.

I've had the Panny 58" (TH-58PX60U) for a few weeks now. It's anything but blurry or fuzzy. I am very pleased with the PQ, especially on the HD channels and on DVDs upconverted to 720p.

I did find the audio to be typical TV-type stuff. But, since I added a Harman-Kardon AVR235 and HKTS 14 5. 1 speaker system, I leave the TV audio off. ;)

i cain't help but wonder if he did not get a bad unit the panasonic should have won in
every catagory.


ageed. It shouldn't even be close. I've seen plenty of both brands (in home). Nothing wrong with the Vizio for a budget TV, but it doesn't compare to the Panny in overall PQ.

I'd take a good hard look at your picture settings and your source before giving up on a nice panel.

I've had the Panny 58" (TH-58PX60U) for a few weeks now. It's anything but blurry or fuzzy. I am very pleased with the PQ, especially on the HD channels and on DVDs upconverted to 720p.

I did find the audio to be typical TV-type stuff. But, since I added a Harman-Kardon AVR235 and HKTS 14 5. 1 speaker system, I leave the TV audio off. ;)

The Panny looked great from 10 feet away, but like an LCD it would get blury the closer I stood to the panel. I guessed this was some anti burn-in technology that Panny used. My Vizio did get a heck of a lot more image retention, but the picture was much more sharp. This worried me until I went into a Costco and saw the video feed stuck on one picture for over half an hour. I thought this would cause burn in, but once the video feed started back up again the image retention was gone in 5 minutes. One other thing that I did not like about the Panny was there is no program guide. On the Vizio I could get a days worth of programming information per channel. It is nice to see what will be on the next 12 hours. I guess I could subscribe to TV Guide, but it is easier to have the feature built in.

Most likely it's the distance you are seated away from the PDP which affects your perception regarding each display's resolution, 50" versus 58", especially with SD programming.

The Panny looked great from 10 feet away, but like an LCD it would get blury the closer I stood to the panel.


You totally missed the point. A 50" 720p TV would be optimally viewed just inside of 10'. A 58" 720p needs to be viewed just inside of 11'. That's a rough estimate and everyone is different.

If you were trying to view your 58" 720p from inside of 10' then it's likely that you were seeing picture structure. That's why 1080p exists, to allow us to sit closer to larger TVs and still perceive it as a crisp image. This has nothing to do with Vizio vs. Panasonic, you bought too big a TV for your viewing distance.

The Panny looked great from 10 feet away, but like an LCD it would get blury the closer I stood to the panel. I guessed this was some anti burn-in technology that Panny used. My Vizio did get a heck of a lot more image retention, but the picture was much more sharp. If you get to close to any TV it will look like crap. Hell, a 50" Pioneer looks like crap to me at 10 feet. There's such a thing as buying too large of a TV for your distance and eyesight and i think that may be what you did.

Why not get a 50" Panasonic? Wouldn't it look better than a 50" Vizio? Or maybe get a 58" 1080p Panasonic instead if you want to watch a big screen up close. That's an awesome TV there.

You totally missed the point. A 50" 720p TV would be optimally viewed just inside of 10'. A 58" 720p needs to be viewed just inside of 11'. That's a rough estimate and everyone is different.

If you were trying to view your 58" 720p from inside of 10' then it's likely that you were seeing picture structure. That's why 1080p exists, to allow us to sit closer to larger TVs and still perceive it as a crisp image. This has nothing to do with Vizio vs. Panasonic, you bought too big a TV for your viewing distance.
Agreed, that the TV is probably too big for the distance, but I don't agree with your distance recommendations. The 58" TV is 34.5% bigger than the 50" TV. Personally, I would add that % to the viewing distance. If not possible, he should go for the Panny 50" TV.

doogiehowser,
I agree with everyone here. the 58PX60U may have looked fuzzy because your seating position is too close, based on your recommended screen size. You may want to go with a 42" - 50", instead of larger television, such as the 58". Bigger is not always better.

I agree with Randy. Try the 50PX75U to see if there is a difference in picture quality. Or try the Samsung 5054, before going back to the Vizio.

I will say that the Vizio may appear to be sharper, but the color saturation is not a good as the Panasonic. Also contrast levels are hard to dial in to try and get a good picture with great shadow depth. It either goes too light or too dark. Also you will notice more video noise upon closer inspection. Overall the Vizio is a good performer, but not great. You will notice how grey the blacks look in comparison to the Panasonic.

I would look at the overall picture, not exclude the other aspects of good picture quality. After all, everyone is trying to shed some opinion to you, but if you feel that the Vizio is better for you, then I would stick with it.

Chris
MountAVision.com

Agreed, that the TV is probably too big for the distance, but I don't agree with your distance recommendations. The 58" TV is 34.5% bigger than the 50" TV. Personally, I would add that % to the viewing distance. If not possible, he should go for the Panny 50" TV.

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I was referencing this...

You totally missed the point. A 50" 720p TV would be optimally viewed just inside of 10'. A 58" 720p needs to be viewed just inside of 11'. That's a rough estimate and everyone is different.

If you were trying to view your 58" 720p from inside of 10' then it's likely that you were seeing picture structure. That's why 1080p exists, to allow us to sit closer to larger TVs and still perceive it as a crisp image. This has nothing to do with Vizio vs. Panasonic, you bought too big a TV for your viewing distance.

Really have to have Vizio and Panny side by side to know what the original poster was talking about. I had Panny 50PX60U and have Vizio P50HDTV. With OTA HD broadcast, I am perfectly happy with Vizio sharpness at 6' but can't tolerate Panny fuzziness and visual artifacts at 10'. Panny (60U, don't know 7xU) may have its strong point (black level to be one) but sharpness is not amoung them. I am happen to be sensitive to sharpness.

At a local CC they had 720p LG and 1080p Panny side by side, both 50". LG was by far the sharper one. Vizio has mostly LG guts -- may be that's why.

If you get to close to any TV it will look like crap. Hell, a 50" Pioneer looks like crap to me at 10 feet.

I think me would have to disagree, I have a 6070 60" Pio plasma and at under 10 feet the picture is still jaw dropping perfect.
My seating distance is about 8 to 9 feet, no way could I have done that with my last plasma, a 50" Panny 600U.

I would agree with the original poster, the Panny 58 incher has been a blur fest in every store I have seen it at.

Even at my local Costco the Philips 63 incher and the 60 inch Vizio have ALWAYS looked better that the 58 inch Panny.

Davyo

I agree with you Davyo,

There is alot of love spread in the forums for Panasonic's. I just never saw it when looking at the box stores. The other sets in the stores always made the Panasonic's look boring to me. They may have had great sets before, but I think the competition caught and passed them up some time ago.

OP... do what you feel is right for you and be happy with the decision. If you look here at this thread too much, you will doubt every TV on the market.

I agree with you Davyo,

There is alot of love spread in the forums for Panasonic's. I just never saw it when looking at the box stores. The other sets in the stores always made the Panasonic's look boring to me. They may have had great sets before, but I think the competition caught and passed them up some time ago.

OP... do what you feel is right for you and be happy with the decision. If you look here at this thread too much, you will doubt every TV on the market.

The Vizio is much better than the Panny. But I had to learn the hard way, and I have been repackaging and hauling large heavy plasmas back and forth from the store to my home and back to the store. I should have kept the Vizio. The Vizio is much sharper and better than the Panny. I tried the hardest of all to like the Panny, but Pannys fuzzy picture was not watchable. I can't stand a fuzzy blury picture. I bet most people who have a Panny never had a Vizio so they don't know how good a plasma can be.

I bet most people who have a Panny never had a Vizio so they don't know how good a plasma can be.
You just keep telling yourself that.

I think me would have to disagree, I have a 6070 60" Pio plasma and at under 10 feet the picture is still jaw dropping perfect.
My seating distance is about 8 to 9 feet, no way could I have done that with my last plasma, a 50" Panny 600U.

I would agree with the original poster, the Panny 58 incher has been a blur fest in every store I have seen it at.

Even at my local Costco the Philips 63 incher and the 60 inch Vizio have ALWAYS looked better that the 58 inch Panny.

Davyo

Ah, Davyo and I meet again re the 58" Panny. :) Well, first, let me say that I agree with him that 10' viewing distance isn't too close for me either; that's exactly how far away I sit and it seems just right (and I'm the type who likes to sit towards the back at the cinema). Secondly, I imagine he's typically seeing the Panny with a less than stellar feed, a situation where it admittedly does not shine like the Pios do. However, as Ken Ross once remarked, give the Panny a great feed, like BRD or HD-DVD or OTD 1080i, and it is sharp as a tack. Rich Harkness also had many good things to say about the 58" Panny looking sharp, so I know it isn't just my aberrant vision. But, I have always found Davyo's comments to be fair (he had the guts to once say on this forum that his old JVC D'ILA had the best picture of all his many sets).

The Vizio is much better than the Panny. But I had to learn the hard way, and I have been repackaging and hauling large heavy plasmas back and forth from the store to my home and back to the store. I should have kept the Vizio. The Vizio is much sharper and better than the Panny. I tried the hardest of all to like the Panny, but Pannys fuzzy picture was not watchable. I can't stand a fuzzy blury picture. I bet most people who have a Panny never had a Vizio so they don't know how good a plasma can be.

Have you not been listening to the posters in this thread? You probably got a defective Panny...either that or you need to have your eyes checked. My friend has a Vizio plasma and to say that I wasn't impressed is an understatement. That's expected though since it is a low end plasma.

The Vizio is much better than the Panny. But I had to learn the hard way, and I have been repackaging and hauling large heavy plasmas back and forth from the store to my home and back to the store. I should have kept the Vizio. The Vizio is much sharper and better than the Panny. I tried the hardest of all to like the Panny, but Pannys fuzzy picture was not watchable. I can't stand a fuzzy blury picture. I bet most people who have a Panny never had a Vizio so they don't know how good a plasma can be.

I leant it even harder way. I threw away Panny 50" 60U box thus couldn't return it. Tried several month (firmware upgrade, adjustment, etc.) but couldn't get myself to like it. (I had Dell 42" plasma and RCA 38310 before it so I know it's not right.) Eventualy sold the panny at 57% loss (in 4-5 month -- it was EXPENSIVE first out.) Then added extra money to get the Vizio.

It could be source related but I don't know what. Using OTA rooftop antenna all other set (Vizio, Dell, RCA) was fine but the Panny 60U wasn't. I have to agree many people probably never had a Vizio (or Dell HD4200 for that matter) to compare at home.

I leant it even harder way. I threw away Panny 50" 60U box thus couldn't return it. Tried several month (firmware upgrade, adjustment, etc.) but couldn't get myself to like it. (I had Dell 42" plasma and RCA 38310 before it so I know it's not right.) Eventualy sold the panny at 57% loss (in 4-5 month -- it was EXPENSIVE first out.) Then added extra money to get the Vizio.

It could be source related but I don't know what. Using OTA rooftop antenna all other set (Vizio, Dell, RCA) was fine but the Panny 60U wasn't. I have to agree many people probably never had a Vizio (or Dell HD4200 for that matter) to compare at home.

It is not source related. I had these plasmas with the same source and same programs. I watched Fox Baseball game of the week in HDTV on both sets. I watched local baseball in HDTV. On the Vizio I could see clear faces of fans from behind home plate when the picture was of the batter facing the catcher. On the Panny the faces were fuzzy and not clear. It is the same picture angle and the same source! I watched Jay Leno on both sets in HTDV. I watched just about every kind of program from the same sources and the Vizio has a clear picture and the Panny has a fuzzy picture. It is not the source, it is the plasma television. Vizio is better. Another good example is Wheel of Fortune in HDTV. On the Vizio everyone looks clear, on the Panny the picture is fuzzy. These are the same shows, same sources, the only difference is the plasma set.

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"I bet most people who have a Panny never had a Vizio so they don't know how good a plasma can be."


You just keep telling yourself that.


He's telling himself that because he is correct and he has been able to have the Panny and the Vizio both in his house and spend time with each display.

As a past longtime Panasonic plasma only fan I now own, and never thought I would, a Pioneer plasma.

The reason I switched from my love affair with the Panny plasmas is cuz the current 720p Pannys are a blur fest compared to the current 720p Philips, Vizio and Pioneers.

It is also important to understand my opinions are not based on what brand I own, I dont play that.
I am loyal to whatever brand looks the best and has the best picture quality at the time, and right now, the 720p Panny plasma would not be the top on my shopping list.

Davyo

It is not source related. I had these plasmas with the same source and same programs. I watched Fox Baseball game of the week in HDTV on both sets. I watched local baseball in HDTV. On the Vizio I could see clear faces of fans from behind home plate when the picture was of the batter facing the catcher. On the Panny the faces were fuzzy and not clear. It is the same picture angle and the same source! I watched Jay Leno on both sets in HTDV. I watched just about every kind of program from the same sources and the Vizio has a clear picture and the Panny has a fuzzy picture. It is not the source, it is the plasma television. Vizio is better. Another good example is Wheel of Fortune in HDTV. On the Vizio everyone looks clear, on the Panny the picture is fuzzy. These are the same shows, same sources, the only difference is the plasma set.

I do not understand why people feel the need to challenge you, and try to persuade you to keep a plasma that you have had for quite some time, and are very unhappy with. It is very strange. You are the one that has to watch it, and it is clearly not for you. Good luck with your new Vizio. :)

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Let me ask one more question to you. Was the picture setting set to standard or vivid? If you had the picture in Vivid it would cause the picture to look fuzzy or give it a clay-face look. When this setting is turned off of Vivid the picture looks stunning.

Chris
MountAVision.com

Let me ask one more question to you. Was the picture setting set to standard or vivid? If you had the picture in Vivid it would cause the picture to look fuzzy or give it a clay-face look. When this setting is turned off of Vivid the picture looks stunning.

Chris
MountAVision.com

Chris, on my 50" 60U, with Vivid it was unwatchable. Without it's still no good: turning up sharpness I got clayface, turning down sharpness (remember recommended sharpness of -14 on forum?) I got fuzzy picture. No happy middle ground.

"Stunning" is relative. If I didn't have Dell and RCA 38310 before it, I won't know better. I was stunned first time I had RCA 38310 -- still remember watching PBS loop for hours.

Perfect Vision just reviewed Vizio VP50 and Panny PX77. http://www.avguide.com/the-perfect-vision-download/?EMC-Issue79email&attr=downloadbutton

Panny's processing weakness was noted. This is probably the weakest part of panny, from 60U on. (To be fair, I must say Panny ED was probably the best ED set with excellent processing.)

Vizio's sharpness was noted. The review did indicate the weak black on Vizio, which is fair. I can turn on a room light to mask weak black, but I can do nothing to mask the blurring and visual artifacts.

We took a pass on the 58" Panasonic for the same reason. In the Mini-Mag the clay face on the Pany was atrocious. We messed with turning down the sharpness and it helped, but the picture became bland.

No such compromises with the 60" Pioneer, and so that's what we went with.

And personally I wouldn't have a problem sitting 4' away from Pio, but our usual position is 8-9'. If you have to sit 12' back before your TV looks good, IMO, you need another TV.

I would take the 58px600u over the vizio. The other model has to much silver and i heard that the processing was not as good, but some have said it's the same processor. I think the op might be sitting to close to the 58, you need atleast 10-12 feet. The vizio throws a pretty great picture but there's alot of image retention, false contouring...

Just for those who don't know, this guy is a Vizio "fanboy" troll, and a quick look at his previous post proves it. Don't waste your time trying to help him because he's never owned a Panny. He post just to make himself feel better about owning a bargain brand plasma with, awful color reproduction, banding issues and non existent customer service.

Ah..he's just using s-video input on the Panasonic. :p
Why not at least get the 60" Visio anyway....hehe

Just for those who don't know, this guy is a Vizio "fanboy" troll, and a quick look at his previous post proves it. Don't waste your time trying to help him because he's never owned a Panny. He post just to make himself feel better about owning a bargain brand plasma with, awful color reproduction, banding issues and non existent customer service.


It dont have awful color reproduction. Maybe the 60 vizio does vs the p50. Vizio skin tones look better imo than panasonics.

Fantastic review! The Samsung is the winner, which does not surprise me. Again with the Vizio lacking in black level performance the ability to render shadow detail is limited. Again it will look grey in comparison to the Panny. That is why I would take a less sharper picture over the Vizio.

Chris
MountAVision.com

Just for those who don't know, this guy is a Vizio "fanboy" troll, and a quick look at his previous post proves it. Don't waste your time trying to help him because he's never owned a Panny. He post just to make himself feel better about owning a bargain brand plasma with, awful color reproduction, banding issues and non existent customer service.

Well this previous post of his about how his Vizio broke sure makes it seem like he is not telling the truth now. He claims that he returned the first Vizio to get the larger Panny, and he never mentioned his earlier story about returning the Vizio because it broke after owning it for a short time. I think that the Mod needs to shut down this guy.

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I've had my 50" Vizio for about a month. I was very happy with it until yesterday. It started doing odd things like the picture would dissapear for a second and I would see red lines. But the picture always came back. I thought it must be the digital signal or something like that.

Tonight I am watching TV and there is a LOUD POP. I am looking directly at the screen when it popped. It was a bright flash for a tenth of a second and then the television turned off. I am scared to turn it back on again.

My plan was to take the 50" Vizio back and buy the 58" Panasonic 1080p. Nonetheless, I am dissapointed that my 50" Vizio died on me. One month is not long enough for a television.

If there are any dealers on this forum, please PM me your best price for the 58" 1080p. I'm looking to buy.

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It dont have awful color reproduction. Maybe the 60 vizio does vs the p50. Vizio skin tones look better imo than panasonics.

Vizio is famous for producing over saturated colors, which in turn makes everything look like a Tim Burton film. The bottom line is that Vizio makes a fine second/ third tier product, but Vizio fanboys are kidding themselves if they belive that they can in anyway compete with the quality and performance of top brands. I have no problem with someone that wants to save some money, but the Vizio fanboys that convince themselves and then try and convince everyone else that the Vizio is in the same league or better than, Pioneers, Pannys or Samsungs, are just pathetic. ;)

Vizio is famous for producing over saturated colors, which in turn makes everything look like a Tim Burton film. The bottom line is that Vizio makes a fine second/ third tier product, but Vizio fanboys are kidding themselves if they belive that they can in anyway compete with the quality and performance of top brands. I have no problem with someone that wants to save some money, but the Vizio fanboys that convince themselves and then try and convince everyone else that the Vizio is in the same league or better than, Pioneers, Pannys or Samsungs, are just pathetic. ;)


I guess i'm pathetic then :) , because the vizio does do things well. I am a stickler for being against oversaturated colors and a service menu tweaked vizo looks great. Panasonic is also famous for clay face, floating blacks, not totally free from false contouring. Vizio zoom mode is the best i have seen, even compared to sonys. I tested panasonics, you pretty much only can zoom full screen where the vizo zooms in but still leaves some black bars. Also i dont know if you seen that thread where some guy had a vizio and a panny side by side and the vizio was looking better. But i do agree the panny is more higher quality, reliable, less image retention and false contouring. But not totally free from it. Samsungs PQ looks like pink tones and has problems with brown colors. But again i believe the samsung is higher quality, but from a pq standpoint the 50 vizio can hold it's own with anything. There is pros and cons to every tv. Look at oppo dvd players, going by price alone you would think they are junk, but pq bests most expensive players.

I was wondering when shasta would show up in this thread to flame the "Vizio fanboys."

Look, why do you have to attack the guy for his opinion? Some people like Vizio's look better.

When you say stuff like:

Vizio fanboys that convince themselves and then try and convince everyone else that the Vizio is in the same league or better than, Pioneers, Pannys or Samsungs, are just pathetic.

It makes me think of all the Pioneer fans who would say the same thing about you, feeling the need to prop up your Panasonic or Samsung and thinking it's in the same league as a Pioneer.

(BTW - I own Panasonic and love it... I'm just saying, people are entitled to their opinions and these things are not absolutes)

Just for those who don't know, this guy is a Vizio "fanboy" troll, and a quick look at his previous post proves it. Don't waste your time trying to help him because he's never owned a Panny. He post just to make himself feel better about owning a bargain brand plasma with, awful color reproduction, banding issues and non existent customer service.

You are wrong. I have been searching for the BEST plasma picture. I tried with Vizio once and it had a power supply issue (which I have read is an easy fix). I took it back. That is how much of a Vizio fan boy I am, I took it back. I got a Panny but could not live with the fuzzy picture. The Panny has worse picture quality than Vizio. So it went back and I got the better Vizio. I got it from a store that allows easy returns and a good warrenty which takes away my worries of it breaking.

Vizio is famous for producing over saturated colors, which in turn makes everything look like a Tim Burton film. The bottom line is that Vizio makes a fine second/ third tier product, but Vizio fanboys are kidding themselves if they belive that they can in anyway compete with the quality and performance of top brands. I have no problem with someone that wants to save some money, but the Vizio fanboys that convince themselves and then try and convince everyone else that the Vizio is in the same league or better than, Pioneers, Pannys or Samsungs, are just pathetic. ;)

And in a year or two Vizio will be the number 1 selling TV in the US. They have already passed Sony. The only to two left to go is Sammy and Panny.

Thats alot of Pathetic people that bought Vizio :rolleyes:

Go away troll. The guy likes Vizio over Panny, get over it. Maybe he's leading people to a great value and sharp picture. Other people may like that too. No need to flame the guy.

Uh...nothing wrong with buying a Visio...just don't go pretending it's a top tier plasma. :rolleyes:

I had the Vizio 50" for almost three months. I returned it for the Panasonic 58" because of the name brand. I first noticed the Panny did not have as sharp a picture while watching Wheel Of Fortune in HDTV. The Panny had a slightly blury picture like most LCD's have. Then while watching a baseball game in HDTV I did not have the same "in the ballpark" feeling. The Vizio made me feel like I was in the front row seats. The panasonic made me feel like I was watching television and not like I was there.

I really wanted a 58" plasma, but I realized I was more happy with the better picture quality of the 50" Vizio.

Well it sure would have been nice if you had told us that you had two scares and a power failure with the Vizio you returned, instead of telling us that you exchanged it for the better name brand. I can not understand how you can start a thread extolling the virtues of Vizio, when the last one you had broke after three months. I agree with you, if you do not like the Panny, then you should return it, but starting a thread to proclaim the superiority of the Vizio that broke within a three months period makes you sound silly.

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