I am really considering the 1000U for my next projector, but unfortunatly my room set up is that I can only have a 65" wide 4:3 screen. To have 16:9 I would have to mount the projector way to close to the screen, so I am stuck to 4:3. I have been a Happy X1 owner for many years and I have over 6000+ hrs. on the machine but the colorwheel is starting to make some serious racket, so now it is time to upgrade. I have read all the reviews and I know the 1000u is the projector I want but I was worried (gasp) that the projector might be to bright for such a small screen, I know there is an eco mode but still on projectorreviews it still puts out 600+ lumens on the best video modes. I also use the projector for my primary TV and dont have HD. I was just wondering how the picture quality in 4:3 and in SD and DVD at 4:3 was. Thanks for the help.

Wembley2000

I gather you wish to use the central 960 pixels out of 1280, having a 960x720 image. This should be workable and be an improvement on the X1. Having upgraded from an X1 to an HD1000 (but on an 87" diagonal 16:9 screen) I think it will be quite bright in low lamp mode. However, I think you might be better off picking up an inexpensive used X1.

Check the Sharp XR10XL

Thanks, I to have thought of that, but i would be spending, buy ebay numbers, close to 300-400 $ for a used X1, then i dont know what i am getting. my viewing area is pretty bright, but most of my TV watching is at night. I just wish there was a bright 800*600 good (X1 Quality)home theater projector on the market like the X1 now, but them days seem long gone as everybody wants HD (except the people that dont have it, and have an room capable for it). Thanks for your reply.

Wembley2000

I just wish there was a bright 800*600 good (X1 Quality)home theater projector on the market like the X1 now, but them days seem long gone as everybody wants HD (except the people that dont have it, and have an room capable for it). Thanks for your reply.

Wembley2000

Did you check the Sharp I mentioned above?

Haven't got a chance yet, I will check it out tonight.

Is the XR10XL the same as the XR10x.

Thanks.

There is no "L"

There is no "L"

Then what is this?
http://www.sharpusa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,1775,00.html

the xr10 (no x or L) seems to have a lot of supporters on here, but i have only got through 4 of 34 pages so far(hopefully be able to read more tomorrow at work) any ideas of its movie watching lumens? I will keep reading on. Thanks

It's all the same name - the XR10X is probably your best choice for 4:3 viewing. It is plenty bright and I have seen some great pictures of it in action. There's a couple of owners around here that can fill you in on the details. Hopefully they will chime in soon!

HD1000u is not known for good scaling. Optoma HD70 720p has better 4:3 scaling and Dell has it for $699 now. Go with 4:3 XGA Sharp XR10 for $600 or less.

Thanks to everyone that has replied,(reconlabtech especially), but i was just on projectorcentral and found out the the XR10 will not work for me. I have a very limited mounting distance(log home with cross beams about 4' apart) so i can only mount at 8,12, or 16, (I am at the 12 distance) and the short throw of the XR10 will not let me hit that mark. I need something in the X1 range for throw. Do you guys have any other ideas? Thanks for the help.

Thanks to everyone that has replied,(reconlabtech especially), but i was just on projectorcentral and found out the the XR10 will not work for me. I have a very limited mounting distance(log home with cross beams about 4' apart) so i can only mount at 8,12, or 16, (I am at the 12 distance) and the short throw of the XR10 will not let me hit that mark. I need something in the X1 range for throw. Do you guys have any other ideas? Thanks for the help.

You are not willing to mount the XR10XL at 8 feet? It works there...

Ok, I'll find another candidate for you!

Its not that i would not mount it that close but at a mounting lens height of 81" I would have to use way to much keystone to get it to fit on my screen. the bottom of my screen is only 4.5" above my floor. (damn the bad room layout.) thanks.

I would like to find something else, and you have been a great help.

How about the Sharp on a low table with a shelf just off the floor?

How about the Sharp on a low table with a shelf just off the floor?


That should work.

I own both a Mits 1000u and a Sharp X10...I have them on bookcase shelves...the Mits is on the lowest shelf and the Sharp is on the middle shelf. Shoot to a 92" Dalite.

The Sharp is noticably better with 4:3 SD material. The Sharp does a darn good job with HD material also...but not quite up to the PQ of the Mits.

I can't put the sharp on a shelf or on a table my seating distance is around 16', projector setting at 12' now. I really don't think the wife would like wires running on the floor or me drilling a hole in the floor for the wires. Does the sharp still hold a good pic with alot of keystone? Thanks.

Does the sharp still hold a good pic with alot of keystone? Thanks.

In my setup I do not use any Keystoning so I can't comment on its effects. Perhaps Bud or another 10x owner can chime in.

That should work.

I own both a Mits 1000u and a Sharp X10...I have them on bookcase shelves...the Mits is on the lowest shelf and the Sharp is on the middle shelf. Shoot to a 92" Dalite.

The Sharp is noticably better with 4:3 SD material. The Sharp does a darn good job with HD material also...but not quite up to the PQ of the Mits.

Changing the subject a tad, how does the fan noise of the two projectors compare. At my altitude, I usually have to run higher fan speeds so noise is a consideration.

I am also curious as to your opinions on the lumen output of the two.

I currently have a XR10 and am looking at getting a HD1000U.

Gary

Did I hear my name?

The original projector was the Sharp XR10X that you are talking about later it was marketed as a XR11X and it included a travel case and a couple other goodies the XR10X didn’t come with. About a year ago or more the XR10X-L showed up it is the basic same projector but there could have been some bulb issues with the plain XR10X as the L model has a different lamp in it. It produces the same lumens but at a lower wattage, I believe. I haven’t looked at the specs in a while. But I would recommend finding the L model if the 10X platform fits your needs.

It’s a XGA projector and is in the $600 price range now but you may have to do a rebate to get that price. Its 1024x768 in 4:3 and 1024x576 in 16:9 exactly half way between a 480 and a 720 projector. It has a lot of lumens and even in the eco mode will overpower your screen. It will need a neutral gray screen matched to the size image you want and at that size will look plasma like if you wish. It will also be able to produce some good blacks and tolerate a lot of ambient light if matched to a neutral gray screen.

It is the lowest of drop heights and works great if you have low ceilings as I do. My ceiling height in the hobbit IMAX is 6’4” and my screen is 72x96. So the lens is below the top of the screen about 5 inches and requires no keystone. This could help by shooting under your beams. And allowing you to place the projector just where it has to be. But that’s hard to tell without knowing more about the room. Its zoom range is pretty limited. But when in 16:9 mode the image can be digitally shifted up and down the full screen. This is a very useful feature for me depending if I’m watching reclined or not.

I have posted a good deal on the 10X’s ability to do SD fairly large and still maintain good PQ. It scales quite well IMO.

It comes with two 10’ cables a component and a standard monitor cable if you want to run it from your pc.

In eco mode the fan is pretty quiet. But at high altitude I would run the fan at high speed. In eco though. I modified mine by adding a aux fan that just blows air past the projector because of my low ceiling height. You may want to think about something like that also where you live.

If you do a search on threads started by me in the advanced search window you will be lead to threads that describe my screen and setup and lots of photos.

The 10X is not the newest technology out there but for someone wanting a budget projector and also requiring 4:3 imaging its still one of the best I think.

bud16415.

How's the Sharp with RBE? I know that this is subjective, as not everyone notices it. I'm afraid that I DO notice it. Last week I bought the Viewsonic PJ503D. I was impressed with it's 800 x 600 picture, but noticed RBE almost immediately. I'm sure it has a slow color wheel speed. Given that description, am I likely to notice it less on the Sharp? Does the Sharp have a faster color wheel speed? I'll likely return the Viewsonic. Any opinions welcome. Thanks.

-Mike

bud16415.

How's the Sharp with RBE? I know that this is subjective, as not everyone notices it. I'm afraid that I DO notice it. Last week I bought the Viewsonic PJ503D. I was impressed with it's 800 x 600 picture, but noticed RBE almost immediately. I'm sure it has a slow color wheel speed. Given that description, am I likely to notice it less on the Sharp? Does the Sharp have a faster color wheel speed? I'll likely return the Viewsonic. Any opinions welcome. Thanks.

-Mike
Predicting if someone will see RBE is a pretty hard thing to do. I can give you my specs. My screen is 72x96 and seating is at about 12ft. I have had at least 50 people thru to see it and I haven’t heard any one say anything but the image is awesome. The only way I found that I could make myself see a RBE was to put in the THX disc and go to the screen that puts the circle test up. if I would then look from side to side or around the circle I could see them.
Ya I know you think I’m crazy. But the reason I did it was to see if I did see them and if I would then see them in a movie. I have never once seen one in a movie.
One thing with DLP and business projectors you have to be careful that your setup is not to bright. Gray DIY screens is what I recommend to kill some of the light. or a ND filter. Too bright can help cause the RBE. Also as you get more used to viewing I think it also goes away in many people. XGA like the 10x will be a step up from what you had and I would give one a try. Many places are selling the 10x where you can return it 30 days. It wont take more than a couple hours to know if you are one that has a problem. :)

Great. Thanks for the input.

-Mike