Anyone have any thoughts on a comparision in performance (both for HT & Music) between the Def Tech Trinity Super Cube and the SVS PB12-Plus/2?

Craig should be very close to having an answer for you. I'd put my money on the Trinity as far as output goes. Keep in mind that the Trinity lists for about $1000 more than the Plus/2.

I am waiting for this comparison as well - also a comparison between the Trinity and the Submersive. I have two def tech subs that I would consider to be average, at best, but the Trinity looks like a very strong performer.

Cost-wise, the Trinity vs. the Submersive is a pretty good matchup. I'd also like to see how the Trinity compares with some of the higher priced competition out there such as the JL's and the big Velodynes.

besides craig, i doubt you're going to find many people who have had both of these subs in their home

i've been keeping track of craig's notes on the trinity:

The Trinity is here ... It has been unboxed for about 45 minutes. I calibrated it, and used the Auto EQ on the SMS-1 ... it looks to be pretty flat (+/- 3.5 dB) from 18 Hz and up ...

Right now, I have "The Hulk" fired up .... it definitely shakes the room.
For a first real report on the Trinity - We watched most of "The Shooter" tonight, and the Trinity did an excellent job of giving a chest slam when the big sniper rifle is shot. It also does the usual bomb scene stuff with floor shaking results.

It is not quite as percussive as the Fathom 113's ... but it is close.
We finished "The Shooter" last night, and the Trinity is getting more impressive. There is a scene late in the movie in which an large house explodes ... it is a continuous 22-30 Hz rumble, and the Trinity shook the room like it wanted to cause damage.

It was visceral, chest pounding, and VERY clean.

It also felt like it was not straining.

Taking 4 x 14 inch passives and tuning them in the low 20's may not make for the best "Look what she'll do @ 15 Hz bass", but for real world performance, it was a smart move on Def Tech's part.

The Brick and Mortar world has a contender in the "high output for the $$$$" arena.
Ear ... Go for it, my friend. The Trinity is a very nice subwoofer - harder to set up than some, but it is a performer.

I have Meatloaf's "Back into Hell" rolling right now ... a fantastic kick drum. My wife wants to watch "You, Me and Dupree" tonight.

I put my foot down, telling her that we are testing a new subwoofer, and it is not time for a comedy. I demanded that we watch The Haunting DTS that I bought last month.

I will let you guys know how Matt Dillon and Owen Wilson combine in a comedy when we are done. :p :rolleyes: :D
You have dual PR's on opposite sides and dual actives facing forward ... compared to other subs, moving these an inch or 2 can make a bigger difference in the sound quality.

I don't have REW, no ... but I have been switching between a Fathom and the Trinity ... The Trinity is doing a very nice job of matching the agility of the Fathom.

There is no noticable lag from the PR's...
thanks for the testing and review craig

i emailed def tech and asked them about the thickness of the MDF and got this back:

Front panel: 2”

Side panels: 1.75”

Rear panel” 1”

Thanks,

Chet Pelkowski

Definitive Technology


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I will try to get my wife to get her digital out tomorrow. I already had the sock rolled down ... in some ways, the Trinity reminds me of a cool DIY project.

Morph The Cat is playing now ... good stuff.

OTK .... thanks for the info. :)
Right now, I can say I like the Trinity, it is deep, powerful, and sounds great.
Back to the Trinity ... I have been tweaking it some more, and it is getting higher marks all the time. We watched "Cars" last night ... and there is some surprisingly percussive bass in the movie, as well as in the opening 45 second instrumental with some DEEP drum thwacks ... the Trinity smacks one in the chest ... very authoritative.

The Trinity also adds a nice warmth to the soundtrack ... my guess is it produces some fairly high 2nd order harmonics, which may not look that great on a graph, but it can sound VERY good.

Measurements will be taken after all our travels to confirm this.
We had a rainy night last night, so my 10 year old (in lieu of taking him to play minature golf) and I watched an old subwoofer standard: Star Wars I, Phantom Menace.

The Trinity reminded me a lot of my old SVS B4+ ... During the Pod Race scene, it absolutely smashes in the chest. It is not quite as "fast" at it as is the Fathom, but it hits harder.

During the course of Ep I, there are also about 200 explosions .. and the Trinity makes the movie fun. I know this is rarely mentioned in a subwoofer review, but even my 10 year old was jumping out of his seat during some of these scenes, and yelling over ... "Dad, did you FEEL that ... that was so COOL".

For real world use, this subwoofer is turning out to be an excellent product.
Gents (and ladies) ... So I don't mislead anyone, the Trinity also does a great job on music - kick drums are presented with authority and percussion, bass guitar and Cello are also excellent.

When I mentioned this fun factor ... The Trinity gives the impression of VERY good macro-dynamics ... with no signs of compression on loud, spectacular passages. :)
Craig, I've been waiting and wondering when will you post the points score of the latest Trinity sub that received glowing reviews?
Foamfan ... We need to run the GP session on it .. which we plan on doing after the Elemental Designs A7-900 arrives.

It will be late August before we are done ... but for a music and overall listening, the Trinity has done a great job.

*updated 7-27-2007*

Agreed. Craig is really doing a service to the forum. I am trying to choose between two BMFs, two Submersives or two Trinities for my new 19 x 15 x 10 room - 100% home theater (no music). Also, I guess I could go with three of the new SVS Ultras and there is also the Danley DTS-20. I have budgeted around 4000 for subs - was originally 3000, but these things have a way of escalating.