View Full Version : bluejean cables good enough?
larrykelly 07-20-07, 10:43 AM I intend to connect my XG110 via, green version HD fury with supplied short analogue cable, a Bluejean?? 15 foot DVI cable connected to Lumagen. I know that at this time 1080P on this PJ is not practical but I am keeping my eyes open for a 9" unit so I want to ensure that the video chain is completely capable of 1080P 48/60 in the future. I looked at the price of this cable and was surprised at how inexpensive it is. Can this cable perform at this resolution without the irsk of artifacts at this length? I'm not bent on spending extra money just for aledged head room but I don't want to spend it twice. Thanks guys
Larry
I don't own any BlueJeans cables myself, but I wouldn't worry about a DVI cable too much. Any decent DVI cable should do the job fine.
That being said, I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them. If you read their website, you will see that rather than make impressive-looking cheap cables like Monster, they actually test their cables to see whether doing anything more would help. If not, they don't bother with it. Based on that strategy, I would guess that there are few better cables in the world than BlueJeans.
dropzone7 07-20-07, 11:27 AM Since they are a forum sponsor I would not hesitate to order from them. Although I have not personally, I know many people here have. I don't think 15' is an excessive length for DVI so I don't think you would have a problem. You might also check Monoprice.com as they are also a forum sponsor and have very reasonable prices.
Person99 07-20-07, 11:30 AM I've had good luck with both BJC and monoprice thick cables at that length.
Person99 07-20-07, 11:31 AM Since they are a forum sponsor I would not hesitate to order from them.
Curious, why would their spending money on an ad mean they had good products? I don't see any logical connection.
audimushroom 07-20-07, 11:34 AM I have several Blue Jeans Cables including a 25ft HDMI - DVI , well made and work just fine.
dropzone7 07-20-07, 11:51 AM Curious, why would their spending money on an ad mean they had good products? I don't see any logical connection.
Oh come on Dave...you and I both know it has nothing to do with the quality of their products. I was speaking more to the possibility that if AVS has them as a sponsor then they can't be all that bad. If AVS's name and endorsement of a vendor doesn't carry any weight with us then why are we even here? Geez, I thought I was an argumentative person. :D
Person99 07-20-07, 12:08 PM Oh come on Dave...you and I both know it has nothing to do with the quality of their products. I was speaking more to the possibility that if AVS has them as a sponsor then they can't be all that bad. If AVS's name and endorsement of a vendor doesn't carry any weight with us then why are we even here? Geez, I thought I was an argumentative person. :D
We are here for the technical knowledge and such posted by the members.
I'm quite sure AVS's willingness to accept their ad money is no more of an endorsement than ads on TV (i.e. ABC does not endorse Ford just because they run their ads).
BTW, all of my analog cables and most of my digital cables are BJC, so yes, I do like them. I just didn't follow your logic.
dropzone7 07-20-07, 12:23 PM We are here for the technical knowledge and such posted by the members.
I'm quite sure AVS's willingness to accept their ad money is no more of an endorsement than ads on TV (i.e. ABC does not endorse Ford just because they run their ads).
BTW, all of my analog cables and most of my digital cables are BJC, so yes, I do like them. I just didn't follow your logic.
I suppose I really didn't put as much thought into my response to the poster as you did so he should definitely assign much more weight to your's. I think most people hand out product endorsements based on their experience or the experience of people they know. I hear exactly what you are saying about companies endorsing anyone who will pay for the time. Perhaps my response should have been more specific to the sponsor's reputation and not simply the fact that AVS endorses them.
KrisRoberts 07-20-07, 02:15 PM I have JohnHWman's DVI IFB card for my projector, and found that it was more sensitive to cable issues than the LCD monitors or the Moome HDMI card. I dont know if the HDFury has the same sensitivity.
With the several 25ft cables I had on hand, all of them showed sparkles with John's card. The same cables connected to the same PC did not show sparkles on my other displays. I had some 10ft cables that worked fine with John's card. It seemed clear that it was a problem that came up with the longer cables and not a defective card.
I purchased a 25ft DVI cable from Bluejeans and it works fine.
Previous to that experience I would have said that a DVI cable is a DVI cable, and would not have thought that 25ft would have been long enough to show obvious quality differences in one cable vs another.
CZ Eddie 07-20-07, 05:33 PM Bluejeans is my current favorite.
They are not as cheap as monoprice and they are not as expensive as BetterCables. They are almost in between. Which is what I would consider the safe zone.
I would hesitate with any monoprice order despite their good reviews. Would just be worried that one cable in the bunch may end up being a weak link.
And I would hesitate to order from BetterCables because you're paying more for the name than anything else.
But bluejeans is right in the middle, so that is where I've made my last few cable purchases from. They are not super fancy, but they use only the highly well known cable & connector brands. So the only thing you have to worry about is the workmanship, which so far has been flawless in my experience.
I've got to order about $400 worth of cable in the next month and that purchase will be made at bluejeans.
BJC was supposed to have a new Belden manufactured "bonded pair" HDMI cable out this month. I know it got delayed but not sure when they will have this product for an actual release.
Phil Smith 07-20-07, 11:51 PM It seems to me X length cable will require X gage wire. If you have suffient gage for the length, you won't have any problems. Otherwise they're all about the same, if not exactly same. According to BJC, they're all made in China by a handful of manufacturers. :eek:
larrykelly 07-21-07, 11:17 AM OK here is my cable linup. From Lumagen to HD Fury , 5 meter DVI-D Single-Link Cable.
From HDDVD and Bluray players to lumagen, 2, 2 foot HDMI/DVI Cables.
From Starchoice Sat. reciever to Lumagen, 2 meter DVI-D Single-Link Cable ( Wish they had a 3 foot DVI to DVI though. I will see how these players handle SDDVD then decide whether to pick up a SDI player and cable.
And I think I will throw in an order for 150 feet of Beldon 12-gauge 5000UE to standardize my speaker wire all around the room.
That's a total of 153.50 US with shipping. Add GST, Duty, Extra shipping to Canada, and the differance in the dollar and it should still be under 250.00 can.
Thanks for the input guys.
Larry
thomsens 01-01-08, 12:44 PM I suppose I really didn't put as much thought into my response to the poster as you did so he should definitely assign much more weight to your's. I think most people hand out product endorsements based on their experience or the experience of people they know. I hear exactly what you are saying about companies endorsing anyone who will pay for the time. Perhaps my response should have been more specific to the sponsor's reputation and not simply the fact that AVS endorses them.
I would put it slightly differently. AVSForum is a free resource to most people and if you do actually pay, the amount is not great for the value you get. These sponsors help to allow for this environment to be free which allows us to learn so much about this complex technology. So, given there are a million places to buy cables, why not throw your money at these guys since their product is fairly priced and is a good value for the money. Could you save a buck somewhere else? Sure. Could you get slightly better product somewhere else? Perhaps. But, given the balance, they support the community that helps you, so why not encourage that. I'm not naive to believe that they don't make their money back 10 fold on the ads, but I do believe in giving them the first shot at my business. I've found that I have been very satisfied with both my BJC and my monoprice purchases. I tend to like BJC a little more because I've talked to them (great experience) and they provide educational material on their website to help you differentiate the offerings.
While it doesn't really matter too much, the monoprice cables appear to be fairly generic, while the BJC ones do appear to be higher quality. But, looks can be deceiving, so who knows. I've had no problems with either. It also seems monoprice is out of things I want a lot too. But, they have cheap options for cables where BJC tends to start at moderate cables.
BJC was supposed to have a new Belden manufactured "bonded pair" HDMI cable out this month. I know it got delayed but not sure when they will have this product for an actual release.
The post quoted above is from July, but I can verify that the new cable is available, as I have it installed in my ceiling. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting on my Moome card, so nothing to report on performance thus far. It was really easy to fish it to my pj! :p
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