Might be interesting.

As a Mac user I prefer less encumberances (OS serialization, product activation) however I don't think the HD DVD vs Blu-ray issue will split clearly along platform lines.

Of course your going to get the obligatory "Apple's on the Blu-ray Board of Directors which means they're Blu-ray" fallacy ad naseaum.

Apple doesn't care. They have HD DVD authoring now and Blu-ray is slowly but surely coming as well. As a Mac user I can identity with that because the "new" Apple is one that tries to adhere to open standards more so than the Apple of a decade ago.

Either way on computers really. I like both mac and pc. Mac OS is excellent as are linux OS on PC.
These are more architecture than format and there are more than these of course ;)
Anyway, i voted pc since i use that more

If you are going to discuss Mac or PC, you must enjoy the video first. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkrn6ecxthM

The format should actually be neither. YOu can download HD content now to 360 and PS3 coming soon. Most HD TVs have VGA inputs...why should we have discs?

I do like downloading HD content from xbox live. Its just...easy.

The format should actually be neither. YOu can download HD content now to 360 and PS3 coming soon. Most HD TVs have VGA inputs...why should we have discs?

I do like downloading HD content from xbox live. Its just...easy.

Those downloads are quite inferior to bluray and hddvd quality.
But to each his own i guess

No option for me. I use Apple, Windows, and Linux at home and office. I prefer Blu-ray. Those aftermarket apple burners make one quite attractive for a MacBook Pro but they need to get the playback software first.

I can totally see an Apple Blu-ray SuperDrive being offered with Leopard, too.

I think Apple is desirous of a drive that can record to both. It seems we are inching close to such a drive. I'd love to have one drive that burns CD/DVD/HD major formats.

Digital is the great Democratizer. The end result is always "ones and zeroes" so only the hardware makes a difference.

As a future Final Cut Studio user I want the ability to burn to whatever disc is necessary. If my client has a Blu-ray player let me burn BD, if they have a HD DVD player let me burn HD or if it's just a sample discs let me burn SD or HD content to DVD-R.

I prefer having a bounty of choice.

No option for both? I support Blu-ray, and I put Mac because I just got a MBP, and with Boot Camp, an external 750GB drive, and ffdshow or VLC, my HTPC is going up for sale.

How about Linux and HD-DVD? ;)

Ubuntu rocks!

How about those of us who own and use both?

I still prefer my AMIGAs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga) anyway. :p
So I guess by that benchmark I prefer wax cylinders.

ted

Not to be off topic.

Hey tvted, I had an A3000 back when I was in collage. With the A-Max emulator card and the PC emulator card I could run much of everything. It's too bad that Commodore had to go under years ago. Computing seemed to be more exciting back then.

Yeah I always loved my A500 and was planning to get an Amiga 1200 (while dreaming of the 4000). I used to enjoy mocking my friends with their dinky 386's and 486's... But then Commodore folded and I joined the Dark Side with a Pentium 60 / Win 3.11.

what if we run boot camp ? :)

Not to be off topic.

Hey tvted, I had an A3000 back when I was in collage. With the A-Max emulator card and the PC emulator card I could run much of everything. It's too bad that Commodore had to go under years ago. Computing seemed to be more exciting back then.

Ok my last Amiga post.

I still have two 3000's (one given to me as hardware backup). The active one runs
Studio 16 (http://www.youngmonkey.ca/hands/files/Sunrize/index.html) and Bars & Pipes (http://www.amigawiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/Bars_and_Pipes) my favourite doohickies for things MIDI. This integrates with a MAC SE30 running UPBEAT and PowerPC running MAX and an old version of SAMPLECELL. A PC sits in the middle handling the MIDI/Sample traffic.

UxiSXRD,
I too remember the days and the heated arguments over the value of a multi-tasking metaphor. Guess they finally got it. ;)

My apologies to the original poster, we AMIGA users always were a chatty/noisy lot - our presence on USENET was far greater than our numbers implied.

ted

what if we run boot camp ? :)

I know I am thinking about it. I figure my next Mac will run OS X 10.5, Vista and Ubuntu. I'll probably use VMware Fusion for my virtualization program.

Hopefully Leopard (10.5) will support HD DVD/Blu-ray well.

Everything is converging and I don't see why we need to create "platforms" with digital data that represents a common denominator.

Linux is the Best!
BD and HDDVD must be backuped on HDD :)

I prefer PC and also support HD-DVD. The main reason is that PCs have been (traditionally) cheaper hardware and Microsoft is very supportive of developers and allowing software to be made for their platform. This is the same reason for which I support HD-DVD. Because it is cheaper for small studios, HDi is based on industry standard xml, and Microsoft is supporting developers with their software and also programs like the 1000 indie films (in conjunction with Amazon). I own an iPod, but aside from that I would never buy an apple computer.

s with their software and also programs like the 1000 indie films (in conjunction with Amazon). I own an iPod, but aside from that I would never buy an apple computer.

Why not? I have a couple of home built PC and I'd never say that I wouldn't build a PC. You're free to have any preference you want but I'm just curious as to how Apple has not lived up to what you want in a computer.

I'm a PC guy and I chose Blu-Ray.

My decision to buy BD had nothing to do with me being a PC owner though.

Considering there are thousands and thousands of 3rd party apps for the PC and relatively few for the Mac, you gotta go with a PC.

Why not [buy an apple computer]? You're free to have any preference you want but I'm just curious as to how Apple has not lived up to what you want in a computer.As a hardware type of guy, and a software developer by trade, I like the options and customization available on the PC platform. Every computer I've owned (besides the first one, of course) I have built myself, and for cheaper than I could have bought otherwise. PC's have been traditionally better supported by hardware and peripheral vendors. If your computer breaks, your local computer shop will likely be able to fix it if its a PC. With a Mac you might have to send it to Apple, or pay a high premium to go to an authorized Apple dealer.

Microsoft is also very helpful in supporting their platform with free APIs and SDKs for Windows applications and games development. This is why you will see tons of third party applications from small companies (sometimes even just one developer) available exclusively on the PC platform. This is also a big reason why the PC is the defacto gaming platform for computers, while Mac is just now catching up.

For an end-user, I can understand why a Mac would be appealing. But as a developer, there just isn't the flexibility you get with a PC on the Mac.

I agree about the hardware part. I've even toyed with the idea of trying to get OS X running on a homebuilt PC system. It'd certainly be nice to build a Universal HTPC OS X based system.

As for software I find there to be many apps from small developers. Capable apps that are amazing. You'll likely find the UI on the Mac apps to be a bit flashier but both platforms are solid. Apple includes their developer IDE (Xcode) with every copy so anyone with gumption can deliver the apps with the same tools that the Pros use.

Hell I'd pay more for an "unlocked" OS X that could run on a homebuilt. That way we could get drivers done for HD-DVD drives or Blu-ray drives and make some nice systems. I will admit I feel limited when I have to go beyond the typical Desktop/Notebook paradigm.

Ubuntu all the way, Vista can eat my beryl shorts man LOL

Linux media server with 3 PS3s and a Blu-ray burner due any day.

Ubuntu all the way, Vista can eat my beryl shorts man LOL

Linux media server with 3 PS3s and a Blu-ray burner due any day.

That would make you a "console BD preferer". Ubuntu has nothing to do with it.

well i have Linux on all the PS3s so it does have some bearing :)

it is whats running on my media server and what i know, plus i am a big open source supporter. So having Linux on the PS3 just makes life so much easier for me.

I just do not see aether format going away before i can get HQ downloads. Now i do not think downloads well ever replace disks, too many people must have a physical item.

well i have Linux on all the PS3s so it does have some bearing :)

it is whats running on my media server and what i know, plus i am a big open source supporter. So having Linux on the PS3 just makes life so much easier for me.

I just do not see aether format going away before i can get HQ downloads. Now i do not think downloads well ever replace disks, too many people must have a physical item.

Count me as one that prefers physical discs but wants the ability to have the contents of the disc placed on media servers to be called up on a whim.

I would support open source too if the people that made software/hardware i want did so.

As it stands... games I play, apps I use, hardware support is all leaning towards windows. Hence I support windows.

I'm a Mac guy (though I work with both platforms), and I'm format neutral (PS3 and and XBox 360 w/ HD).

Mac guy for 12 years, and prefer HD DVD. My computer is used for visual design and AV editing. Not a programmer.

Wow - at this moment, Mac and PC BD lovers equals 127 and Mac and PC HD DVD lovers equals 127. A dead heat...

I'm sure it'll see-saw, but I just thought I'd comment on that while the moment lasted...

I have both PC and Mac.


Voted on the PC side as I tend to use it more.

PC only guy, but I love both HD video formats.

wow 80+ mac users :O

Although I'm a PC guy and I don't care, BRD IS a supirior technology espcially fatoring in the capacity. The poll didn't ask which you prefer to watch movies on, so I still say that Blu-Ray is better for computers in general becasue of that. Plus my suspicions were confimed that Blu-Ray will appeal to Mac guys purely becasue its more expensive. They're so easy to figure out like that.

Plus my suspicions were confimed that Blu-Ray will appeal to Mac guys purely becasue its more expensive. They're so easy to figure out like that.

You were able to figure that out from this poll? Impressive. :rolleyes:

i think thats the only logical conclusion to draw from the poll results so far... ;)

i think thats the only logical conclusion to draw from the poll results so far... ;)

Mac users like stuff that works first and foremost and then aesthetic quality comes in. Both Blu-ray and HD DVD "work" they deliver fine movies. Aesthetics depend on the player.

It's good to see so many Mac users here. I believe that you don't know tranquility in computing until you are using something other than Windows.

Did any of the Mac+BD types vote that way in part because Apple's in the BDA?

I'm a mac user and bought my first Blu-Ray Player when they were first offered. When they started pretty much giving away the HD DVD player, I added it.

Mac users generally have superior taste, so it figures they'd prefer Blu ray :D

I'm a mac user that will never again purchase a PC and I'm going with HD DVD....

I'm a mac user that will never again purchase a PC and I'm going with HD DVD....

:D

Mac users generally have superior taste, so it figures they'd prefer Blu ray

No....a Mac system is elegant in design and function. It does not try to be wasteful (think notebooks or svelte iMacs) nor does it intend to impress you with horsepower attached to a crappy transmission (OS).

HD DVD is most certainly more Mac like. More full featured and progressive. It uses the latest technologies for it's interactive layer and it's more open.

Blu-ray is the "Genuine Advantage" of CE products ..always casting a wary eye to make sure you're legit. Ready to shut you down at a moments notice for any transgressions.

With a Mac you might have to send it to Apple, or pay a high premium to go to an authorized Apple dealer.For do-it-yourselfers, that doesn't really apply anymore. Out of warranty--parts, accessories and manuals are plentiful for the Mac(s).

i use both at work but prefer the mac at home.

neat poll. i would have expected more mac people to be behind hd dvd actually. if you read my sig you;ll see that i answered in favor of bd (i'm a mac guy), but only by the slimmest margins do I prefer BD. in fact 9 of the last 11 movies i've purchased have been hd dvd...

at this point i just wish one format would win and i don't care which one history tells me
from my previous sacd dvd-a beta vhs formats one will prevail or none.

We need a "I use both a PC and a Mac" choice...

I'm also sort of disc format agnostic...I just like movies.