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Adam_ME
12-17-07, 08:09 AM
I think this is the first review.

http://www.***************.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/139769/

that's what I was expecting from this show. But I thought it had 24bit PCM?

Good work disney. But I still haven't seen season 1.(why start with 3, just to be faithfull to the lost story style?)

It's 16-bit PCM. It sounds great though, so I don't have a problem with it.

As for why Season 3 was released, I guess Disney figured it would sell better than Season 1 which a lot of people might already have on SD-DVD.

mws192
12-17-07, 09:20 AM
I love the fact that Best Buy sent me a shipping confirmation saying my set was shipped on Wednesday, 12/12 via USPS. So I anxiously checked the mail on Saturday but to no avail. I checked the tracking info last night and got this:

"The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on December 16, 2007 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later."

Why do these companies notify us that our item has 'shipped' when in reality it's just sitting in a box still in the warehouse? Today's day six since it's been 'mailed' yet in all likelyhood it's still sitting in the warehouse.

With re-runs on just about all my shows this week, I was really hoping to watch this. Oh well. At least it's not a Christmas present since I doubt I'll see this prior to the holiday.

ckenisell
12-17-07, 09:29 AM
Why do these companies notify us that our item has 'shipped' when in reality it's just sitting in a box still in the warehouse? Today's day six since it's been 'mailed' yet in all likelyhood it's still sitting in the warehouse.

The shipper already shipped it. It's just that USPS tracking is really no indication of what is really happening. All of my USPS shipments say that until I receive the item (and sometimes even after I receive it.) :rolleyes:

ckenisell
12-17-07, 09:32 AM
Dot50Cal, how did you acquire those screenshots? The pause icon leads me to believe you're using a PS3. Did you just set up your digital camera and shoot pictures of the screen?

mws192
12-17-07, 09:32 AM
The shipper already shipped it. It's just that USPS tracking is really no indication of what is really happening. All of my USPS shipments say that until I receive the item (and sometimes even after I receive it.) :rolleyes:

Yeah you're probably right. That's what I get for choosing discount shipping all the time. My favorite USPS updates are 'arrived at unit' often followed with a timestamp in the middle of the night (1-4am). Do they expect anyone to believe it was delivered at that time of day?

Dot50Cal
12-17-07, 09:51 AM
Dot50Cal, how did you acquire those screenshots? The pause icon leads me to believe you're using a PS3. Did you just set up your digital camera and shoot pictures of the screen?

HD Capture card. Pretty much indistinguishable from Xylon shots which are direct captures off the video files.

http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://dot50cal.the-horror.com/avs/blups32.png&sd=http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/Dracula/648bab4e.png

http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://dot50cal.the-horror.com/avs/blups3.png&sd=http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/Dracula/1a047d8e.png

360HD
12-17-07, 11:43 AM
Wow I just bought a PS3 yesterday to watch Lost in TRUE HD, and low and behold it locks up after the previews. I'm returning the PS3 and everything to best-buy, I'll stick with my HD-DVD's that have never had problems I guess... :rolleyes:

tgenius
12-17-07, 11:56 AM
Wow I just bought a PS3 yesterday to watch Lost in TRUE HD, and low and behold it locks up after the previews. I'm returning the PS3 and everything to best-buy, I'll stick with my HD-DVD's that have never had problems I guess... :rolleyes:

I had one freeze-up after the previews.. but that was it. If your willing to return your PS3 because of ONE glitch, that's pretty frail. :)

mbw23air
12-17-07, 11:58 AM
Wow I just bought a PS3 yesterday to watch Lost in TRUE HD, and low and behold it locks up after the previews. I'm returning the PS3 and everything to best-buy, I'll stick with my HD-DVD's that have never had problems I guess... :rolleyes:

I use to consider myself on HD DVD's side but I've had 2 HD DVD players since Aug. 06 and have had several glitches, lockups, etc with the most recent being Bourne Ultimatum. I've had a Panasonic 10a blu ray player since Aug. 07 and it has played everything perfectly since having it. So, don't give up on blu ray because of 1 problem, if that was the case I wouldn't have HD DVD right now.

Mike

whippersnapper
12-17-07, 12:02 PM
Wow I just bought a PS3 yesterday to watch Lost in TRUE HD, and low and behold it locks up after the previews. I'm returning the PS3 and everything to best-buy, I'll stick with my HD-DVD's that have never had problems I guess... :rolleyes:Wow I just bought a PS3 yesterday...Sure, we believe you.:):) Looks like you're returning it right before it transforms itself into a 1.1 Blu-ray player:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=956596

Well, the video quality of Lost on Blu-ray (revealed by Dot50Cal's posting above) would have been just a bit too much for you anyhow if you're only used to watching it on commercial HDTV broadcasts or HDTV cable. I'm sure your HD-DVD videos will be "good enough" for you.

For me personally, Dot50Cal's posting caused me to immediately order Lost Blu-ray from Amazon so I'd have it before taking Christmas leave.

tgenius
12-17-07, 12:14 PM
I can only hope Buena Vista delivers Lost S1 and S2 ASAP because It's just an impressive show that truly lends itself to high def.

ckenisell
12-17-07, 12:59 PM
Wow I just bought a PS3 yesterday to watch Lost in TRUE HD, and low and behold it locks up after the previews. I'm returning the PS3 and everything to best-buy, I'll stick with my HD-DVD's that have never had problems I guess... :rolleyes:

Interesting that you would sign up to this forum just to post that! Nice. :rolleyes:

Isgrimner
12-17-07, 01:38 PM
I did what a lot of others did last week. I had this pre-ordered through Amazon as soon as they started taking pre-orders. When it did not ship, I cancelled and ordered through Best Buy and picked it up on my way home last Tuesday. I like the packaging but I think my particular copy has a slight problem with the slip case. The front flap seems a little long so the velcro does not line up perfectly. Overall still pretty cool.

I finished watching it this weekend on my PS3. I had no problems watching it with whatever defualt Blu-Ray settings came with the 2.0 update. One disc did seem like it took a little longer to load than the others, but still came up and played fine.

On the quality, I was able to notice Charlie breaking the small E string on his guitar while walking in the jungle with it straped on his back. It catches on a tree branch and snaps and flops around a little. Maybe I noticed this because I play guitar a little, but to be able to see it on the screen seems to show the detail that BD can display. I doubt I would have caught it without looking for it on a standard DVD.

I do have a question though, maybe others can answer. I read this on another message board.
There's also a "BD Java" feature, I was watching The Cost of Living and during the black smoke owning Eko scene a little blue circle appeared at the bottom right hand of the screen, I clicked on it and it talked about the form it took when killing Eko opposed to its other forms and what the other forms were. -Nothing really mind-blowing but its written by Darlton which is cool, similar to Lost: The Answers.

I tried to do this with my PS3 but never saw any little blue circle that the poster spoke of. Is this something that requires the Blu Ray 1.1 profile update that it seems we PS3 owners will be able to get tomorrow, or is the poster just blowing "smoke" so to speak?

whippersnapper
12-18-07, 06:59 AM
After looking through this thread, I ordered Lost Season 3 from Amazon Sunday evening using "super saver" free delivery. I just checked the order status and it now shows as being shipped as of today. So I guess Amazon really is trying to get these in the buyers' hands before Christmas.

Since Blade Runner on Amazon is beginning to show some of the same traits that 300 did when it first came out (frequently out of stock on Blu-ray but still in stock on hid-divd -- due to the relative sales volumes) maybe some of those disappointed Blade Runner Amazon customers will order Lost. They sure can't lose judging from the pictures posted upthread.

KerouactheCat
12-18-07, 01:04 PM
I can only hope Buena Vista delivers Lost S1 and S2 ASAP because It's just an impressive show that truly lends itself to high def.

Agreed!

I am hoping that Buena Vista will take advantage when season 4 goes in to hiatus because of the Writer's Strike and releases Season One and Two to a bunch of Lost hungry fans. That is just what I hope.

bplewis24
12-18-07, 02:44 PM
I had one freeze-up after the previews.. but that was it. If your willing to return your PS3 because of ONE glitch, that's pretty frail. :)

Just look at the username. That should tell you all you need to know about his/her credibility.

Brandon

Mel2
12-18-07, 03:34 PM
I haven't had a glitch with it yet on my PS3 and I watched the whole season through twice and all the special features. At least we aren't having major problems with the combo bourne ultimatum. I heard on the other board that most can't get it to work on the 360 add-on. Anyway, Lost is another great disney blu-ray presentation.

ckenisell
12-18-07, 04:34 PM
I haven't had a glitch with it yet on my PS3 and I watched the whole season through twice and all the special features. At least we aren't having major problems with the combo bourne ultimatum. I heard on the other board that most can't get it to work on the 360 add-on. Anyway, Lost is another great disney blu-ray presentation.

Plus, isn't it a bit ironic that a person with username 360HD is talking about console failures?

kmh71
12-19-07, 02:45 AM
I updated my ps3 this morning to 2.10 and the problems I had any freezes after the previews has been eliminated. Everything is working the way it should with 24Hz turned back on. Good job sony.

teiresias
12-19-07, 08:11 AM
Wow I just bought a PS3 yesterday to watch Lost in TRUE HD, and low and behold it locks up after the previews. I'm returning the PS3 and everything to best-buy, I'll stick with my HD-DVD's that have never had problems I guess... :rolleyes:

Looking at your screen name, in combination with your post history (which consists of only this one post), you'll excuse me as I dismiss your drivel as pure trolling of the most obvious and asinine kind.

I haven't had too many issues with Lost discs locking up at the menu since disabling 24hz. I haven't tried setting 24hz back on since the 2.10 firmware upgrade though, so I'll see if I can find some time to check on that tonight. Maybe it fixed something, though I doubt they'd be addressing any issues with this set in particular in this update. Unless the coding for the 1.1 stuff fixed something as a side effect of course.

ckenisell
12-19-07, 09:29 AM
I haven't tried setting 24hz back on since the 2.10 firmware upgrade though, so I'll see if I can find some time to check on that tonight. Maybe it fixed something, though I doubt they'd be addressing any issues with this set in particular in this update. Unless the coding for the 1.1 stuff fixed something as a side effect of course.

Maybe this "issue" was more common than we even knew (I heard Pirates III and other Disney films were causing some playback issues for some people.) Perhaps these were all related.

Either way, kmh71 says 2.10 fixed it and I've heard that 2.10 also fixed the playback issues on those Disney movies. Sounds like the fix is there already. Great job Sony!

RWetmore
12-20-07, 02:19 PM
I watched the first episode today. I thought the picture quality was very good, but not great. Was this show shot on film or HD? I noticed some grain.

Synergy38
12-20-07, 02:41 PM
I watched the first episode today. I thought the picture quality was very good, but not great. Was this show shot on film or HD? I noticed some grain.

Not that I know of.. even from watching the HD broadcasts I didn't find it any nicer than when I watched season 1 and 2 on DVD.. Which is why i'll end up saving $40 and just getting the DVD version.

JosephShaw
12-20-07, 04:20 PM
Not that I know of.. even from watching the HD broadcasts I didn't find it any nicer than when I watched season 1 and 2 on DVD.. Which is why i'll end up saving $40 and just getting the DVD version.

Lost is shot on film and mastered in 1080p24 according to IMDB. The extras certainly show them shipping film from Hawaii to LA daily. The HD broadcasts in the US are 720p. If you cannot notice a difference in quality between the BD and the SDDVD's, then you either have a display under 40" or you're doing it wrong. :D

brermike
12-20-07, 04:27 PM
Lost is shot on film and mastered in 1080p24 according to IMDB. The extras certainly show them shipping film from Hawaii to LA daily. The HD broadcasts in the US are 720p. If you cannot notice a difference in quality between the BD and the SDDVD's, then you either have a display under 40" or you're doing it wrong. :D

+1

I only have a 32" screen and I did a A/B comparison between the SD DVD and the Blu ray and the difference was even greater than I thought. Lost is shot on film and there is some natural grain. Overall, the picture quality exceeded my expectations since I was used to the 720p HD broadcasts.

gsearles
12-20-07, 04:27 PM
I think the HD versions of TV shows are too expensive. I'm sure making all those discs isn't cheap, but I find the premiums too much. I bought Heroes on DVD for $37 when the HD-DVD version was going for $99. I think it's come down a bit since then, but that's nuts...

Greg

Maestro J
12-20-07, 04:36 PM
I find it funny when people complain that HD media costs more than their SD counterparts. Um, why did you get a high def player to begin with anyway? Your BD or HD DVD player costs more than a standard DVD player so it would make sense that the software costs more too.
Specifically regarding the Lost BD, if there was ever a circumstance where the price premium is justified over the SD version, this is it. The Lost BD PQ is reference and the Lost Access special feature is really cool and well worth watching.

stumlad
12-20-07, 06:06 PM
I skimmed through episode 1 and 2 of Lost and Prison Break. not sure which one has better PQ but both are clearly the best to date. I also have Heroes, Smallville s5, s6, and Battlestar Galactica. Lost is definitely either #1 or #2.

1) Lost
2) Prison Break
3) Heroes
4) Smallville S6
5) Smallville S5
6) Battlestar galactica

I'm sure there are a few other box sets I dont own. Either way Lost and Prison Break rock!

As for pricing -- I love how the comparison is made between the street price for DVD and the MSRP for HDM. Lost can be had for 65 dollars on Blu-ray and 37 on DVD. It's worth EVERY extra penny for me on my 106" diagaonal via front projection. It's worth every extra penny even on a 32"+ TV. One day you'll have a bigger TV and you will be able to enjoy it.

Synergy38
12-20-07, 07:16 PM
Lost is shot on film and mastered in 1080p24 according to IMDB. The extras certainly show them shipping film from Hawaii to LA daily. The HD broadcasts in the US are 720p. If you cannot notice a difference in quality between the BD and the SDDVD's, then you either have a display under 40" or you're doing it wrong. :D

I have a 30" so I wouldn't notice the difference. We also have a 52" which I watched Season 2 DVD and SEason 3 HDTV on and I truly didn't notice any difference outside of the SQ.

Plus I want the DVD version as the set matches S1 and S2 packaging. I've made a pact to myself to not buy any TV series in HD outside of my BBC Planet Earth because I often don't watch them more than once. So it's not really worth the money to me personally.

JosephShaw
12-20-07, 07:21 PM
I think the HD versions of TV shows are too expensive. I'm sure making all those discs isn't cheap, but I find the premiums too much. I bought Heroes on DVD for $37 when the HD-DVD version was going for $99. I think it's come down a bit since then, but that's nuts...

Greg

I've always wondered why HDDVD sets have had such a premium over their SDDVD cousins when it's supposed to be so cheap to produce them. Do we pay a premium for resolution? I guess I should be glad we're not getting them on film! :D

dildatonr
12-20-07, 07:50 PM
I've always wondered why HDDVD sets have had such a premium over their SDDVD cousins when it's supposed to be so cheap to produce them. Do we pay a premium for resolution? I guess I should be glad we're not getting them on film! :D

Well to be fair "so cheap" is relative. It's "so cheap" for disc replication when comparing it to DVD and BR. That's doesn't mean the hi def transfers/encoding process is "so cheap".

nick2010
12-20-07, 07:55 PM
Lost is shot on film and mastered in 1080p24 according to IMDB. The extras certainly show them shipping film from Hawaii to LA daily. The HD broadcasts in the US are 720p. If you cannot notice a difference in quality between the BD and the SDDVD's, then you either have a display under 40" or you're doing it wrong. :D

According to the Executive Producers' official Podcast, season 3 was shot on Sony's HD "beta" cameras. (seasons 1 and 2 were on film)

dsa_shea
12-20-07, 09:24 PM
I have a 30" so I wouldn't notice the difference. We also have a 52" which I watched Season 2 DVD and SEason 3 HDTV on and I truly didn't notice any difference outside of the SQ.

Plus I want the DVD version as the set matches S1 and S2 packaging. I've made a pact to myself to not buy any TV series in HD outside of my BBC Planet Earth because I often don't watch them more than once. So it's not really worth the money to me personally.


Then why bother buying it at all if you will only watch it once? Just rent it and be done with it. LOST on Blu-Ray is definitely the way to go if you have the equipment to play it.

JosephShaw
12-20-07, 10:34 PM
According to the Executive Producers' official Podcast, season 3 was shot on Sony's HD "beta" cameras. (seasons 1 and 2 were on film)

I thought I remembered them saying that. Thanks for clearing that up. I'm surprised you listen to the podcast and don't call them Darlton. :D

GizmoDVD
12-20-07, 11:43 PM
Why is no one talking about the awesomeness of Season Play?
Its one of the best features to date on either format!
I am not kidding! Now I wish all my TV on DVD had this feature!

Synergy38
12-21-07, 01:09 AM
Then why bother buying it at all if you will only watch it once? Just rent it and be done with it. LOST on Blu-Ray is definitely the way to go if you have the equipment to play it.

Collecting... That's like asking why I have all 9 Seinfeld seasons even though it's on tv 100 times a day.

camaj
12-21-07, 07:26 AM
It's "so cheap" for disc replication when comparing it to DVD and BR.

It's not cheaper than either though

dildatonr
12-21-07, 10:10 AM
It's not cheaper than either though

Well I'm not working on the replication lines. Nor do I work the books at the studios. I was referring to what has been repeated by some of the insiders (red ones mind you, but not fully denied by blu ones) about replication/disc manufacturing costs. As that's where the "it's cheaper" information has come from. I am NOT stating if it's true or not true either. Just clarifying what "the word on the street" was. and as far as I know the only aspect of that format which was to be done "cheaply" in comparison. I don't think you OR I are really in any place to say either of us knows (besides what we read on forums) which is cheaper and not cheaper - are we? If you do know, please provide a source for this information, because a lot of us want to know.


I for one would have spent $200 on this Lost season 3 BR set without complaint. I freaking love it, job well done. Long time waiting for this and the wait was well worth it. It's everything I hoped it would be.

skibum5000
12-21-07, 12:31 PM
+1

I only have a 32" screen and I did a A/B comparison between the SD DVD and the Blu ray and the difference was even greater than I thought. Lost is shot on film and there is some natural grain. Overall, the picture quality exceeded my expectations since I was used to the 720p HD broadcasts.

agreed.

heck on my 24" 1920x1200p computer monitor i can see the difference between the broadcast 720p and 1080p blu-ray nevermind compared to the SD TV or SD DVD versions!

something is :eek: with one's setup if you can't see the difference between the SD DVD and the blu-ray or HDTV!

or (not joking) get glasses. more people than realize are just very slightly nearsighted not enough to interfere with any everyday stuff but enough to lose the finest details.

skibum5000
12-21-07, 12:32 PM
Why is no one talking about the awesomeness of Season Play?
Its one of the best features to date on either format!
I am not kidding! Now I wish all my TV on DVD had this feature!

wellit is still not quite as good as good old "resume" on non-java or sd dvd discs, but at least it is much closer and a very welcome thing indeed.

gsearles
12-21-07, 12:34 PM
I find it funny when people complain that HD media costs more than their SD counterparts. Um, why did you get a high def player to begin with anyway? Your BD or HD DVD player costs more than a standard DVD player so it would make sense that the software costs more too.

I don't mind paying $25 instead of $20 for a movie with this much better quality, but I was referring specifically to TV show sets that cost 2 to 3 TIMES what the SD versions cost. There is a deserved premium for the better quality, but there's a limit. The formats aren't going to take off with premiums like that.

skibum5000
12-21-07, 12:36 PM
I have a 30" so I wouldn't notice the difference. We also have a 52" which I watched Season 2 DVD and SEason 3 HDTV on and I truly didn't notice any difference outside of the SQ.

Plus I want the DVD version as the set matches S1 and S2 packaging. I've made a pact to myself to not buy any TV series in HD outside of my BBC Planet Earth because I often don't watch them more than once. So it's not really worth the money to me personally.

dude you are giving up HD to have.... MATCHING PACKAGING?!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

although you claim you can't see the difference anyway, but as to that, i have a 24" 1080p comouter monitor and i can see the difference between the 720p broadcast and 1080p nevermind to the SD DVD! how can you possinly not notice it on a 30" or at least on the 52"? are you sure you have things connected properly and in the proper mode? something truly is wrong if you can't notice difference on a 52", in all serious equipment is setup wrong or adjusted way out of spec or you need a new prescription or contacts. evne someone with a lower density of cones and rods than normal should at least be able to see the difference on a proper 1080p set.

another weird thing is you say you did notice SQ difference between the SD DVD and HDTV, but don't both use a very similar DD encode? although maybeit was more a S2 vs. S3 difference maybe the recording equipment went higher end for S3.

JosephShaw
12-21-07, 12:48 PM
Yes, season play is awesome! If I stopped at the third episode on disc 3 and accidentally pop in disc 4, it tells me that I put in the wrong disc and asks me if I meant to or if I want to put in the right disc. For watching a TV season front to back, that's brilliant! But it's also pretty low key. I don't watch TV as a rule (Lost is the one exception now that Heroes has tanked so badly in Season 2), but I can see how this would be a great feature for those that do watch TV shows on boxed sets.

JosephShaw
12-21-07, 12:55 PM
I for one would have spent $200 on this Lost season 3 BR set without complaint. I freaking love it, job well done. Long time waiting for this and the wait was well worth it. It's everything I hoped it would be.

I remember when $195 was the supposed price for this set back when it was first rumored to be on the way, and even then I was willing to pay it. At $65 it was a steal. When you consider a show like The Sopranos is $125 for the complete Season Six on DVD and $225 for BD/HDDVD, Lost is an amazing bargain. I know it's a bit high because HBO sets generally run double what a normal TV show set would, but it's one of the few TV shows to be put out on BD and HDDVD in the same level of quality as Lost.

brermike
12-21-07, 01:21 PM
Yes, season play is awesome! If I stopped at the third episode on disc 3 and accidentally pop in disc 4, it tells me that I put in the wrong disc and asks me if I meant to or if I want to put in the right disc. For watching a TV season front to back, that's brilliant! But it's also pretty low key. I don't watch TV as a rule (Lost is the one exception now that Heroes has tanked so badly in Season 2), but I can see how this would be a great feature for those that do watch TV shows on boxed sets.

I feel dumb for asking, but what is season play, and how do I access it? I've watched all the episodes on the PS3 by manually selecting them from the pop-up menu. If I use the Play All function, is this Season Play? Thanks!

By the way, this set cost $65 which I think is a very good deal. Sure, the SD DVD was $30 cheaper but considering the first TV on DVD sets were above $100 (X-Files and Star Trek), this is not bad at all. Plus, you are getting more than you would with the SD DVD so I expect it to cost more.

Synergy38
12-21-07, 01:39 PM
dude you are giving up HD to have.... MATCHING PACKAGING?!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:


Yes I am.. but as I said. I'm not going to watch LOST enough to justify the additional $40 i'm going to have to pay. I've already watched the season on TV, I just want to watch it again as a refresher to get ready for season 4 in Jan/Feb and to continue my collection, no more, no less.

dildatonr
12-21-07, 07:20 PM
Yes I am.. but as I said. I'm not going to watch LOST enough to justify the additional $40 i'm going to have to pay. I've already watched the season on TV, I just want to watch it again as a refresher to get ready for season 4 in Jan/Feb and to continue my collection, no more, no less.

you do realize eventually the other seasons will be out in HD. So instead of cutting your losses with SD - you are now committing yourself to buying only SD sets until the series ends. thats 3 more seasons in SD. So in 2 years you will still be buying the SD sets - while we're all still enjoying the HD sets.

cdhender
12-22-07, 08:48 PM
I just want to jump on the "This is amazing" bandwagon. I am blown away with how great this series looks on blu-ray. I've only watched three episodes but so far it's awesome.

If anyone out there is on the fence, seriously, pick this up. It looks stunning!

Oh, and it has uncompressed 5.1 audio! I had no idea, it was a pleasant surprise :)

do not freeze
12-23-07, 12:58 PM
I almost watched the whole season. I'll watch the two parter finale in about one hour, but so far the quality is flawless. not one artifact, this is by far the best PQ I ever seen. My player is the PS3 and my TV is a panasonic th50px75.

Dan Hitchman
12-23-07, 11:52 PM
While not the very best high def. transfer out there, it is by far the top of the television series on HD mountain thus far.

The soundtrack leaves a bit to be desired as it is very much a standard, by-the-numbers TV mix. Explosions and gun shots, for instance, seem veiled and dynamically compressed when compared to a movie soundtrack and there is little use of the split surrounds except in very specific instances such as the "monster."

Too bad they didn't use a lossless codec to get 24 bit audio in the same space as the 16 bit PCM track.

Even though the writers seem to be making things up as they go along and it's getting a bit contrived and silly like J.J. Abram's other series Alias (the characters, for instance, seem to change personalities at the drop of a hat whenever it fits the moment), it's still gripping and I'm hooked. I blew through this set in just a few days.

I just hope they don't cop out with a series finale ala Identity or some such thing like that. You know what I'm talking about.

Dan

stumlad
01-02-08, 11:20 AM
When I was at Best Buy the other day, I noticed they were selling Lost S3 on blu-ray but none of them had the outer-casing. The set was packaged like the Smallville and Prison Break seasons... just one big plastic case. Has anyone else ran across that?

Another note... HighDefDigest finally posted their review:
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/915/lost_s3.html

Marc D Carra
01-02-08, 11:53 AM
Future Shop Canada had this for $24.95 on Boxing Day! :eek: I wasn't going to buy it at $89.95, but at the sale price it was a no-brainer. Haven't had a chance to watch any yet, but I just finished season 2 on DVD so I'm looking forward to it! No outer casing, BTW, just a thick case like Smallville seasons.

Marc.

cdhender
01-02-08, 12:33 PM
I am halfway through this set. I can say honestly that this is my favorite high-def content on either format. I am blown away with how great it looks, how great it sounds and all the bonus content.

I might cry if they don't release seasons 1 and 2 this year. And I mean sooner than later!

TommyV
01-02-08, 12:38 PM
I completed this season over the Holiday on my shiny new Sharp Blu-Ray player without any issues. The image quality is absolutely wonderful on this set. I am shocked at how good this season was. Season 2 was pretty good but this one was amazing. I can not believe how many people were complaining about Season 3 when it was airing. I think it was great from start to finish. Now I can't wait for Season 4 to start.

cdhender
01-02-08, 12:45 PM
I completed this season over the Holiday on my shiny new Sharp Blu-Ray player without any issues. The image quality is absolutely wonderful on this set. I am shocked at how good this season was. Season 2 was pretty good but this one was amazing. I can not believe how many people were complaining about Season 3 when it was airing. I think it was great from start to finish. Now I can't wait for Season 4 to start.

Now that I'm re-watching season 3, I agree that it's much better than I thought it was, when it was being broadcast on ABC. I think when you can watch them back-to-back at your own pace, this season in particular plays better because after an episode that maybe was a little slow, you can quickly move on. Having to wait a week, only for nothing to happen, and then waiting another week for just a little to happen..it wears on you. I think they did an excellent job in the 2nd half of the season to keep things moving, bring back the suspense that's made the show amazing and finally, answering some questions instead of adding a few more every time.

All I know is, I can't believe I hesitated in buying this. This is the definition of a "must own" if there ever was, if you're a fan of the show that is.

TommyV
01-02-08, 12:53 PM
Now that I'm re-watching season 3, I agree that it's better than I thought when it was being broadcast. I think when you can watch them back-to-back at your own pace, this season in particular plays better because after an episode that maybe was a little slow, you can quickly move on. Having to wait a week, only for nothing to happen, and then waiting another week for just a little to happen..it wears on you. I think they did an excellent job in the 2nd half of the season to keep things moving, bring back the suspense that's made the show amazing and finally, answering some questions instead of adding a few more every time.

All I know is, I can't believe I hesitated in buying this. This is the definition of a "must own" if there ever was, if you're a fan of the show that is.


I can not think of a weak episode in the bunch. I have to agree, I much prefer to watch multiple episodes back to back as opposed to one a week. I have even considered letting a few build up before I watch but I do not think I will have the patience for that. This will be my first Season I will be watching on TV. I started Season 1 DVD while 3 was airing. To me Season 2 was very slow to start. I was pretty bored until about half way through. I thought Season 3 was griping and entertaining the entire way through. I watched the last 6 episodes in one sitting :eek::D

gremmy
01-02-08, 01:21 PM
But Jack's moustache and beard in the finale looked awfully fake and stuck-on.

Agreed. Jack's beard was some of the worst make-up/costume action I've seen on LOST. Otherwise, makeup was outstanding for the rest of the season.

The only other visually disappointing moment was when they showed the plane breaking up over the island -- it was a cheap FX moment, but I can forgive that one because shots like that are expensive and this is a TV show, not a summer blockbuster.

gremmy
01-02-08, 01:25 PM
I can not think of a weak episode in the bunch. I have to agree, I much prefer to watch multiple episodes back to back as opposed to one a week. I have even considered letting a few build up before I watch but I do not think I will have the patience for that. This will be my first Season I will be watching on TV. I started Season 1 DVD while 3 was airing. To me Season 2 was very slow to start. I was pretty bored until about half way through. I thought Season 3 was griping and entertaining the entire way through. I watched the last 6 episodes in one sitting :eek::D

I refuse to watch during the regular season -- commercials, waiting a whole week, re-runs, etc. etc.

I always wait for the seasons to come out on disc format and then buy or rent and watch them all at once. The LOST episodes are so good that a single season usually takes me one weekend to watch. Back to back. My wife and I love it. Best series on television -- and the only one I care about.

I've tried to watch it on broadcast television, but it's painful that way. Waiting a week (or longer) kills the momentum.

Something else I've noticed -- some TV shows actually work better with commercials inserted into the running time because their pacing is designed to work around the commercials. LOST, on the other hand, is paced like a motion picture. It's much better in a dedicated viewing environment without commercials and week-long viewing gaps.

ckenisell
01-02-08, 02:11 PM
I've tried to watch it on broadcast television, but it's painful that way. Waiting a week (or longer) kills the momentum.

Same goes for Sopranos.

Rieper
01-02-08, 02:14 PM
Okay, I just started watching this 3rd Season of LOST on Blu-ray yesterday.

I've only watched the first two episodes - Tale of Two Cities and The Glass Ballerina.

I have to say, The Glass Ballerina had a moment which made me tear up. And I'm a friggin' Yankees fan.

I don't know why I tear up (maybe it's seeing Jack's reaction)... nevermind that it's so painful from a Yankee fan's perspective, but here's the scene I'm talking about: link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhAWaZUfdw)

gremmy
01-02-08, 04:03 PM
Okay, I just started watching this 3rd Season of LOST on Blu-ray yesterday.

I've only watched the first two episodes - Tale of Two Cities and The Glass Ballerina.

I have to say, The Glass Ballerina had a moment which made me tear up. And I'm a friggin' Yankees fan.

I don't know why I tear up (maybe it's seeing Jack's reaction)... nevermind that it's so painful from a Yankee fan's perspective, but here's the scene I'm talking about: link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhAWaZUfdw)

That makes me tear up too, but for different reasons. I'm a Cardinals fan! :D

giantchicken
01-02-08, 04:07 PM
This season worked SO much better on video. (Full HD quality certainly doesn't hurt.) The pacing of the story works much better when you can go straight through. The frustrations of the first half of the season (particularly the long break) are gone when you can keep watching at your own pace.

Deviation
01-02-08, 04:26 PM
Too bad the Writer's Guild strike will likely end up causing a long break for the new season of Lost as well. Season four was supposed to be run without interruption but that's pretty mucha hopeless cause now. So many good TV shows are going to get screwed by this.

Stupid studio execs, messing with all the good shows... I don't want your reality TV garbage, dammitt!

What really scares me is what the strike might do to the final season of Galactica...

RWetmore
01-02-08, 10:27 PM
I refuse to watch during the regular season -- commercials, waiting a whole week, re-runs, etc. etc.

I always wait for the seasons to come out on disc format and then buy or rent and watch them all at once. The LOST episodes are so good that a single season usually takes me one weekend to watch. Back to back. My wife and I love it. Best series on television -- and the only one I care about.

I've tried to watch it on broadcast television, but it's painful that way. Waiting a week (or longer) kills the momentum.

Something else I've noticed -- some TV shows actually work better with commercials inserted into the running time because their pacing is designed to work around the commercials. LOST, on the other hand, is paced like a motion picture. It's much better in a dedicated viewing environment without commercials and week-long viewing gaps.

Well put. I feel the exact same way.

sanderdvd
01-03-08, 03:47 AM
any news on a european release with Dutch subtitles included?

BAMAVADER
01-10-08, 01:06 AM
I have the Sony BD-S1 and also the S500. After watching LOST, BOTH players froze up after I took the disc out. The S1 finally closed the tray by itself and turned off by itself but I had to unplug the S500 and I am returning it. I know this sounds crazy but I wonder what would cause this?

thanks...

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:cool:

RWetmore
01-10-08, 08:22 AM
I have the S1 and had no problems playing any of the LOST discs.

wirechild73
01-10-08, 09:33 AM
I just started watching Season 1. I never got a chance to catch the show and watching some of the promos during the bowl games got my attention so I rented S1. Wow! My wife and I am hooked and I can't wait get through S1 and S2 to watch S3 in Blu Ray. I also never watched 24 and we plan to pick up S1 of that as well.

ckenisell
01-10-08, 09:43 AM
I just started watching Season 1. I never got a chance to catch the show and watching some of the promos during the bowl games got my attention so I rented S1. Wow! My wife and I am hooked and I can't wait get through S1 and S2 to watch S3 in Blu Ray. I also never watched 24 and we plan to pick up S1 of that as well.

I actually rented Season 1 disc 1 last night and watched both parts of the Pilot. Honestly, all I can say, is "Yawn." How boring!!! :o I'm not being sarcastic here either. It's really boring to me. Maybe because it's 480p instead of 1080i. Should I wait for Blu versions?

Anyway, I started watching this show about half way through season 2 and I've known I needed to go back and watch season 1, but I thought it would be better than this.

Has this show just gotten BETTER over time?

cdhender
01-10-08, 10:05 AM
I actually rented Season 1 disc 1 last night and watched both parts of the Pilot. Honestly, all I can say, is "Yawn." How boring!!! :o I'm not being sarcastic here either. It's really boring to me. Maybe because it's 480p instead of 1080i. Should I wait for Blu versions?

Anyway, I started watching this show about half way through season 2 and I've known I needed to go back and watch season 1, but I thought it would be better than this.

Has this show just gotten BETTER over time?

You are certainly in the minority with that opinion. If you didn't like the pilot, you probably won't like the show. Better cut your losses now ;)

Jayderek
01-10-08, 10:24 AM
You are certainly in the minority with that opinion. If you didn't like the pilot, you probably won't like the show. Better cut your losses now ;)

agreed. If you really didn't enjoy the pilot, stop watching.

I still think that pilot is one of the best ever made.

ckenisell
01-10-08, 11:38 AM
But I really likes season 2 and 3. I own 3 on Blu-Ray and I'm enjoying every minute. It's just that the pilot was really kind of boring. Is it because I already know what could be coming? Is it because I feel like I already know these characters and all of this "setting up" of the characters and plots is too slow for me? I think that could be it.

Still, I'm going to stick through it so I don't miss anything. I know that this kid has something to do with this show:
http://a.abc.com/media/primetime/Lost/images/season/1/episodes/124_exodusII/gallery/14.jpg

But I don't know what he has to do with it and why it's such a big deal when he shows up in season 3 with John Locke. I need to find these things out.

dildatonr
01-10-08, 11:55 AM
That kid is JACOB!!! I kid I kid. you don't even know what that means yet.


I love this set but have one complaint. The plastic "pages" that hold the discs keep falling out on me when I open the set. Not a huge deal, but pretty annoying when I'm changing discs in the dark and try to put it back together.

venk
01-10-08, 12:17 PM
You can't start watching Lost in the middle. That is probably the reason why you didn't like the Pilot, you already know a lot of the Season1 secrets.

venk
01-10-08, 12:20 PM
THIS is why I went HD. Let's just say that HD reveals a bit more of Kate than you see on the TV broadcast. In the episode where the Losties first find the sonic barriers, Kate climbs over one on a tree and her T-Shirt is really wet.

You do the math.

camaj
01-10-08, 12:33 PM
Can someone answer a question? How do you activate "Season play"? I can't see anything on Disc 1 or 2 that relates to it. How does it work? If I watch ep1,4,6 and 8 will it start with ep 2 if I have season play on?

Edit: You have to select "play all" from the main menu!

You can't start watching Lost in the middle. That is probably the reason why you didn't like the Pilot, you already know a lot of the Season1 secrets.

right, in a mystery story, if you know the outcome there is no mystery! That said I could never call the pilot boring, it's 1million times more interesting than other pilots. I didn't feel that they set the characters up too much either.

Isgrimner
01-10-08, 12:42 PM
That makes me tear up too, but for different reasons. I'm a Cardinals fan! :D

Me too, and I watched it when it originally aired and the wounds were much fresher then. Luckily after '06, its easier to rewatch.

venk
01-10-08, 01:13 PM
Me too, and I watched it when it originally aired and the wounds were much fresher then. Luckily after '06, its easier to rewatch.

:(


<--------Tigers fan.

nick2010
01-10-08, 05:58 PM
You can't start watching Lost in the middle. That is probably the reason why you didn't like the Pilot, you already know a lot of the Season1 secrets.

I agree, I began watching the show at the beginning of season 2, and I didn't miss that much in terms of the story. Season 1 is better if you haven't yet seen seasons 2 and 3.

BassTek
01-10-08, 06:39 PM
Future Shop Canada had this for $24.95 on Boxing Day! :eek: I wasn't going to buy it at $89.95, but at the sale price it was a no-brainer. Haven't had a chance to watch any yet, but I just finished season 2 on DVD so I'm looking forward to it! No outer casing, BTW, just a thick case like Smallville seasons.

Marc.

I ordered from Futureshop.ca during their pricing mistake and they still haven't received my copy. The wait is killing me.

giantchicken
01-29-08, 06:35 PM
I was watching the final few episodes on Blu-ray this weekend to get ready for season four on Thursday night.

I hope they don't make us wait too long before giving us the first two seasons. I hope that the season three package has been selling OK. (Anybody who hasn't picked it up yet needs to go to Amazon today and do their part to boost the sales figures.)

kits
01-29-08, 07:19 PM
I was watching the final few episodes on Blu-ray this weekend to get ready for season four on Thursday night.

I hope they don't make us wait too long before giving us the first two seasons. I hope that the season three package has been selling OK. (Anybody who hasn't picked it up yet needs to go to Amazon today and do their part to boost the sales figures.)

Thanks GC. Picked up one even though I have no idea how good this is. Just went based on the fact that it is enjoying #1 Seller in DVD. Must be a good one in content and deal.

metalsaber
01-29-08, 09:00 PM
For $39.99. I had to pick it up.

giantchicken
01-29-08, 10:43 PM
And my 10% discount is still working, so I was able to get a gift copy for $35.99. Can't beat that!!

skibum5000
01-29-08, 10:56 PM
I just started watching Season 1. I never got a chance to catch the show and watching some of the promos during the bowl games got my attention so I rented S1. Wow! My wife and I am hooked and I can't wait get through S1 and S2 to watch S3 in Blu Ray. I also never watched 24 and we plan to pick up S1 of that as well.

you are in serious trouble. ipicked up S1 of 24. 6 days later i finished season 6. :D ok, not quite that bad, but close, haha.

Toe
01-29-08, 11:17 PM
I was watching the final few episodes on Blu-ray this weekend to get ready for season four on Thursday night.

I hope they don't make us wait too long before giving us the first two seasons. I hope that the season three package has been selling OK. (Anybody who hasn't picked it up yet needs to go to Amazon today and do their part to boost the sales figures.)

I just got done with disc 5 from Netflix and am so glad I did not buy the series. I love the show, but for me I cant imagine watching most these episodes over again. Not a show that I could watch the episodes multiple times. For me it is a show where I just want to see what happens next and once that is seen, I have no interest in seeing it again. Phenominal rental though.

BerserkerTails
01-30-08, 01:31 AM
I was watching the final few episodes on Blu-ray this weekend to get ready for season four on Thursday night.

I hope they don't make us wait too long before giving us the first two seasons. I hope that the season three package has been selling OK. (Anybody who hasn't picked it up yet needs to go to Amazon today and do their part to boost the sales figures.)

I've been meaning to do this myself, but can't even get myself to watch "Greatest Hits" again. I swore I was going to drown when it was originally broadcast because I was crying so hard. Man, talk about the single most emotional episode of any TV show every made...

BriS2K
02-05-08, 11:43 PM
I recieved my copy of Lost 3 today from the Amazon special ($39) last week and it doesn't have the cardbard slip cover/case (sample pictures (http://dvd.themanroom.com/news/Lost_Season_Three_Blu-ray_Packaging_Interior/1795))...

Has BVHE now opted for just the normal BD case (like Smallville Season 6)?

wolverinewizard
02-05-08, 11:52 PM
I recieved my copy of Lost 3 today from the Amazon special ($39) last week and it doesn't have the cardbard slip cover/case (sample pictures (http://dvd.themanroom.com/news/Lost_Season_Three_Blu-ray_Packaging_Interior/1795))...

Has BVHE now opted for just the normal BD case (like Smallville Season 6)?

Interesting....I received my copy last week and mine has the cardboard slip case as well.

dork1337
02-06-08, 12:03 AM
When i picked mine up there was 2. One had the cardboard and one didnt. I grabbed the one with it. Either way under the cardboard is the same plastic casing. But the cardboard has thank you letter on it.

giantchicken
02-06-08, 12:17 AM
My copy from last week did have the outer cardboard case.

BriS2K
02-06-08, 01:22 AM
Aww man I feel gipped now... :( I want the thank-you letter too!!!

metalsaber
02-06-08, 07:58 AM
Mine had the outter card board case.

ShagMan
02-06-08, 09:00 AM
Mine came from amazon last Thursday, and had the cardboard/foil case, a nice touch too.