So, I downloaded the new firmware update, set this feature from automatic to on (tv I have is a Mits WD-52631), got the confirmation screen to accept the new setting.
I played Godfather: Don's Edition, then watched Crank on blu-ray. Not sure if I saw much of a difference. Then again, I'm not to sure what I was looking for. What is this feature supposed to do?

I played Godfather: Don's Edition, then watched Crank on blu-ray. Not sure if I saw much of a difference. [...] What is this feature supposed to do?
If your TV supports 24Hz playback, then Blu-Ray movies will be shown at their native 24fps instead of showing 3 rounds of one frame and 2 rounds of the next at 60fps to average out to 24fps.

The 3:2 60Hz compromise can cause a stuttery effect during pans, since the motion will occur in bursts instead of smoothly. Running at 24Hz eliminates this.

- Jer

cool, thank you for the info

Well, since you see a picture on your screen after forcing 1080p24 to "on," you know that your TV supports it. Those of us who have sets that don't will only see a blank screen for 30 seconds.

Having your tv accept a 24fps signal from blu-ray movies will allow you to see the movie exactly how it was originally formatted in theaters. It is not a feature that will affect games and I don't believe you wouldn't notice a difference in Crank, because it was shot with purely digital cameras. A movie that was shot on film, however, benefits from a 24fps display.

In most instances, it is difficult to tell the difference. Where you really notice it, however, is in a side-scroll or panning scene. Non-compliant sets need to use the telecine process, or something called 3:2 pulldown, to convert the 24fps film to 30fps or 60fps. This conversion can result in "judder," or a reduced smoothness that is apparent in these slow, steady camera movements.


EDIT: jhaines beat me to it :D

The 24Hz (24 frames per second) option applies only to BD movies. The option is there to enable, disable, or automatically detect a display capable of accepting a 24Hz signal. A display that can accept a 24Hz signal and play it back at 24Hz or a multiple of it (48Hz, 72Hz, 96Hz, 120Hz) will help to reduce the visual problems often caused by the telecine process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine), which is used by 60Hz devices/displays when dealing with 24Hz recorded material (like movies). In short, it should help reduce judder, which you may notice during long, slow, pans in movies.

EDIT

Everyone else beat me to it. :p

Avarice, you are giving incorrect information. Although Crank was shot with digital cameras, the cameras were set to 24fps.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479884/technical

Well, since you see a picture on your screen after forcing 1080p24 to "on," you know that your TV supports it. Those of us who have sets that don't will only see a blank screen for 30 seconds.

Having your tv accept a 24fps signal from blu-ray movies will allow you to see the movie exactly how it was originally formatted in theaters. It is not a feature that will affect games and I don't believe you wouldn't notice a difference in Crank, because it was shot with purely digital cameras. A movie that was shot on film, however, benefits from a 24fps display.

In most instances, it is difficult to tell the difference. Where you really notice it, however, is in a side-scroll or panning scene. Non-compliant sets need to use the telecine process, or something called 3:2 pulldown, to convert the 24fps film to 30fps or 60fps. This conversion can result in "judder," or a reduced smoothness that is apparent in these slow, steady camera movements.


EDIT: jhaines beat me to it :D

Avarice, you are giving incorrect information. Although Crank was shot with digital cameras, the cameras were set to 24fps.

Thanks for the correction.

I have the same model tv as the OP. I was wondering if anyone knows for sure if this TV supports 1080p/24hz or if it actually takes the signal and converts it to 1080p/60hz? Just having the picture show when forcing 24hz doesn't mean that the TV's not converting it.

its funny that peole are now complaing about 24fps judder ,but films have always been filmed in 24fps. Main reason is that HD picture looks so good and only thing wrong with it is low 24 fps and nearly all tvs need 3:2 pulldown for it.

I have the same model tv as the OP. I was wondering if anyone knows for sure if this TV supports 1080p/24hz or if it actually takes the signal and converts it to 1080p/60hz? Just having the picture show when forcing 24hz doesn't mean that the TV's not converting it.
I would do a search around here or email Mits

Aren't some BD films recorded on video (like concerts) recorded at a refresh rate higher than 24Hz? Would forcing 24Hz cause those disks to look like garbage or not display at all?

I checked the manual for the TV but didn't see anything about it either way.

I think if the tv did not support that feature, we would get no picture at all - right?

I have the same model tv as the OP. I was wondering if anyone knows for sure if this TV supports 1080p/24hz or if it actually takes the signal and converts it to 1080p/60hz? Just having the picture show when forcing 24hz doesn't mean that the TV's not converting it.
PDF manual for Mits WD-52631 (http://download.jazel.net/misc/filecache/0b/0b6d644186a1fc48fe0f8d84d3ad4b36_V33(631-731)%20OG.pdf)
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It is difficult to tell whether the set just accepts a 1080p24 signal and converts it to 60 or actually displays 24fps....there are many mentions of supported inputs throughout the manual, but the only part that implies a true 24Hz output was on pg. 77, in the section on using your TV with a personal computer.

On the monitor tab, select a setting from the screen refresh rate drop-down list. The resolution of 1920x1080 is supported at 24, 30, and 60Hz; other resolutions are supported at 60Hz.

Gotta love trying to figure out if supports actually means displays.

Gotta love trying to figure out if supports actually means displays.
Isn't it ridiculous?!

Page 91 of the manual

HDMI standard connector
Video: 60 Hz: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i
24 Hz, 30 Hz, 60 Hz: 1080p
Audio: PCM stereo
Note: Not for use with personal computers.

Guess I didn't look down that far. so if you choose 24hz on the TV and on the ps3 your golden. Otherwise the TV is changing it back to 60hz

Guess I didn't look down that far. so if you choose 24hz on the TV and on the ps3 your golden. Otherwise the TV is changing it back to 60hz


24hz on the PS3, if I'm reading the manual correctly, you don't have to do anything on the TV, it will automatically accept the signal without you having to do anything.....i think :confused:

Yeah there's no 24hz setting on my TV to turn on or off. I'm thinking my mits probably just "accepts" 1080/24 rather than "displays". The TV is the low end DLP out of the Mits models and it was pretty cheap.

Yeah there's no 24hz setting on my TV to turn on or off. I'm thinking my mits probably just "accepts" 1080/24 rather than "displays". The TV is the low end DLP out of the Mits models and it was pretty cheap.

I don't think you will find a 24fps setting on your tv, but hitting an info or display button on your tv can probably show you at what resolution and framerate you are currently displaying, at least it does so on my samsung. Haven't tried the 24fps setting yet, but I will do so.

just checked and when I hit the info button on my tv it does show that it is displaying at 1920x1080/24hz. I have a samsung hls5687 for those that may want to know.

just checked and when I hit the info button on my tv it does show that it is displaying at 1920x1080/24hz. I have a samsung hls5687 for those that may want to know.

congrats, i was about to post the info given about 24fps and paste it in the thread you were asking about it. guess i won't have to anymore.

My screen went completely black when I set it to on. I guess my TV does not except it, it
has been set to automatic but I guess it was doing nothing. Sony KDF-42A-10 rear projector.

If your TV supports 24Hz playback, then Blu-Ray movies will be shown at their native 24fps instead of showing 3 rounds of one frame and 2 rounds of the next at 60fps to average out to 24fps.

The 3:2 60Hz compromise can cause a stuttery effect during pans, since the motion will occur in bursts instead of smoothly. Running at 24Hz eliminates this.

- Jer

Most TVs that accept 1080P24 still use 3:2 pulldown to get 1080P60. The only way to eliminate judder is to show it at a multiple of 24 and many sets that will take 1080P24 don't do that. All that happens is the TV performs the 3:2 pulldown instead of the PS3. The result should be the same. Besides most people don't notice judder except during the scrolling credits.

I don't think you will find a 24fps setting on your tv, but hitting an info or display button on your tv can probably show you at what resolution and framerate you are currently displaying, at least it does so on my samsung. Haven't tried the 24fps setting yet, but I will do so.

The info button only shows me the resolution of the source (1080, 720, 480 i/p). My TV's not as nice as your Samsung =(

Oh well I can't really expect that much from my cheapy TV.