The HD-DVD version got an excellent review and a highly recommended while the BD version only got recommended. The reviewer even went so far as to say the PIP blue screen feature will be a classic and a must see for all film students. I can not wait to see this on HD-DVD

I'm definitely looking to pick it up.

The HD-DVD version got an excellent review and a highly recommended while the BD version only got recommended. The reviewer even went so far as to say the PIP blue screen feature will be a classic and a must see for all film students. I can not wait to see this on HD-DVD

After reading both reviews they are rated the same except for the HD DVD extras which I have no desire for at this time.When I watch a movie I don't care to have anything else in the picture just pure movie bless. :)
Not to say I will not be picking one of the HD DVD players up real soon. :D

It looks like the HD-DVD disc is the definitive version. Glad I pre-ordered this one.

The HD DVD version usually gets the better rating.

Happy Feet, Superman Returns, Shooter, MI:III, etc

just received my copy in the mail today...can't wait to watch this bad boy... I do wish HD-dvd included little booklets like some blu ray titles do

The HD DVD version usually gets the better rating.

Happy Feet, Superman Returns, Shooter, MI:III, etc

300 on HD DVD and BD both have the exact same right up word for word except for the HD DVD extras.I go by video and audio quality to judge my movies might change my mind after I pick up my HD DVD unit(but I don't think I will). :)

300 on HD DVD and BD both have the exact same right up word for word except for the HD DVD extras.I go by video and audio quality to judge my movies might change my mind after I pick up my HD DVD unit(but I don't think I will). :)

The movies I listed all have better audio on the HD DVD version :)

Dolby TrueHD on Superman Returns, Happy Feet on HD DVD. Blu-Ray has standard DD 640 kbps

DD+ 1.5 mbps on Shooter, MI:III on HD DVD. Blu-Ray has standard DD 640 kbps

HD DVD fans keep getting better stuff from Warner across the board. BD fanboi cling to the "extras aren't important" nonsense. This will be the defacto BD response until their specs get finalized and then you will never hear them complain about interactive features again.

The only downside appears to be the audio commentary. You have to flip over to the DVD side to hear it.

HD DVD fans keep getting better stuff from Warner across the board. BD fanboi cling to the "extras aren't important" nonsense. This will be the defacto BD response until their specs get finalized and then you will never hear them complain about interactive features again.

Yes at this time all the extras are not important to me I just love to watch the movies period.But from what I've heard about some HD DVD fans what else should I expect.
I just stated the reviews were word for word.
Grow up :D

Yes at this time all the extras are not important to me I just love to watch the movies period.But from what I've heard about some HD DVD fans what else should I expect.
I just stated the reviews were word for word.
Grow up :D


I'll grow up if you learn grammar.

The movies I listed all have better audio on the HD DVD version :)

Dolby TrueHD on Superman Returns, Happy Feet on HD DVD. Blu-Ray has standard DD 640 kbps

DD+ 1.5 mbps on Shooter, MI:III on HD DVD. Blu-Ray has standard DD 640 kbps

Don't remember saying anything about those you listed

I'll grow up if you learn grammar.

No thank you :D

I am waiting for my copy. Look forward to it as I have not seen the film!

I did see Transformers twice! I can't wait for this one as well!

Don't remember saying anything about those you listed

But you said that you go by video and audio quality. So I listed why the HD DVD versions of those movies were better, mainly due to the audio quality :)

But you said that you go by video and audio quality. So I listed why the HD DVD versions of those movies were better, mainly due to the audio quality :)
Open your eyes I also stated I would be going both HD DVD and BD best of both worlds I won't bad mouth people for the route they decide to take like some of you on this forum :)

Open your eyes I also stated I would be going both HD DVD and BD best of both worlds I won't bad mouth people for the route they decide to take like some of you on this forum :)

Pot Kettle Black? I think so :p

Sweet! I can't wait to pick this title up on hd dvd. I didn't get a chance to see it in the theater.

just received my copy in the mail today...can't wait to watch this bad boy... I do wish HD-dvd included little booklets like some blu ray titles do

Where did you order this so that you got it earlier than us? :)

Both the BD and HD-DVD versions have identical PQ and AQ. I ended up ordering the BD because it was cheaper and I don't want to support the combo format anymore. I know the HD-DVD has the better extras, but they do not matter to me personally.

Both the BD and HD-DVD versions have identical PQ and AQ. I ended up ordering the BD because it was cheaper and I don't want to support the combo format anymore. I know the HD-DVD has the better extras, but they do not matter to me personally.

Valid reasons.

Just realize that Warner will probably (IMO) quietly reissue this on BD to include to extra PiP when BD specs are finalized. You might end up buying it twice.

Valid reasons.

Just realize that Warner will probably (IMO) quietly reissue this on BD to include to extra PiP when BD specs are finalized. You might end up buying it twice.

It has allready begun...rereleases of movies.....this blows. :confused:

Valid reasons.

Just realize that Warner will probably (IMO) quietly reissue this on BD to include to extra PiP when BD specs are finalized. You might end up buying it twice.

I'd guess all WB discs will be redone for BD. Atleast to bring them up to specs anyway.



As far as 300 HDDVD I'm getting it for sure. One of my favorite movies this year..

Where did you order this so that you got it earlier than us? :)

Deep Discount !

HD DVD fans keep getting better stuff from Warner across the board. BD fanboi cling to the "extras aren't important" nonsense. This will be the defacto BD response until their specs get finalized and then you will never hear them complain about interactive features again.

Bingo! Then they'll brag (to those who have purchased new blu ray players) about HD pip with the new specs, intsead of just sd pip on HD DVD. Hypocrisy has a nice new home with those blu only children.

Is the PQ the same on the HD DVD and HD/SD DVD "hybrid" versions?

There is no non HD/dvd hybrid version.

Of course the HD DVD will get the better rating for the extras.


For less money I'm going for the same PQ, true uncompressed audio, and a scratch resistant disc.

I chose the Blu-Ray version over the HD-DVD version because its $4 cheaper (thats a lot for a college student =D), don't care for combo, and don't care for the extra features. I've only watched one extra feature stuff in my whole life including dvds, so I really could care less for any extra features. I just want to watch my HD movie! =)

Yes at this time all the extras are not important to me I just love to watch the movies period.But from what I've heard about some HD DVD fans what else should I expect.
I just stated the reviews were word for word.
Grow up :D

I don’t know what you’ve “heard” about HD DVD fanboys, but I’ll guarantee that for every annoying HD DVD fanboy you find on these forums you will find a dozen Blu-ray fanboys. In fact in any given day there are as many BD fanboys on the HD DVD forums as there are HD DVD fanboys.

First the Blu-bois said only content counts, but they have less content than HD DVD so they had to quit bringing up content.

Then capacity was the buzz-word for the Blu-bois; well right up until the time they realized that over 95% of HD DVDs are HD30s while more than 70% of BDs are BD25s. That argument went the way of the dinosaur for the educated Blu-bois, but the ignorant ones still use it.

The idea that extras mean nothing has been an argument for Blu-bois from day one because they have always had a technological disadvantage in that respect.

I had high hopes that BD Profile 1.1 would take care of some of those issues, but the new profile still doesn’t call for a mandatory network connection. So I guess we’ll need to wait for BD 2 and then extras will matter again.

Of course the HD DVD will get the better rating for the extras.


For less money I'm going for the same PQ, true uncompressed audio, and a scratch resistant disc.

It also[the HD DVD] got better reviews for sound as well. :)

I don’t know what you’ve “heard” about HD DVD fanboys, but I’ll guarantee that for every annoying HD DVD fanboy you find on these forums you will find a dozen Blu-ray fanboys. In fact in any given day there are as many BD fanboys on the HD DVD forums as there are HD DVD fanboys.

As I agree with this I also temper this with the Fact that most of these fanboys that you speak of are actually paid shills for either side. I own both formats and like HD DVD better because it is more finalized but I do believe that most of the BD fanboys are paid shills posting on these forums and giving actual fans of BD a bad rap. :cool:

It also[the HD DVD] got better reviews for sound as well. :)

Blu-Ray has the EXACT same TrueHD track + the addition of an Uncompressed PCM track. Sorry, just facts.

Blu-Ray has the EXACT same TrueHD track + the addition of an Uncompressed PCM track. Sorry, just facts.


I was just stating what the reviewer said of those audio tracks at HiDEf digest-stating little or no difference in audio. I was wrong to say "better", as I meant the same.Just because the audio is uncompressed does not necessarily equal better audio. Sorry those are just the facts. :rolleyes:

This area covers HD DVD software. If you are not here for HD DVD, move on.

Now where did I read that?

As I agree with this I also temper this with the Fact that most of these fanboys that you speak of are actually paid shills for either side. I own both formats and like HD DVD better because it is more finalized but I do believe that most of the BD fanboys are paid shills posting on these forums and giving actual fans of BD a bad rap. :cool:

Sorry to disappoint you but I have BD and I'm not paid I will also be getting a HD DVD just have not decided which one.When I do I think I will just stick with finding out on my own seeing how every HD DVD forum you go to are more about being Smart *ss then really helping :)

Which movie would be best to order with my HD DVD I did see The Hulk at CC looked very good will probably order the Toshiba A2 or A20

I was just stating what the reviewer said of those audio tracks at HiDEf digest-stating little or no difference in audio. I was wrong to say "better", as I meant the same.Just because the audio is uncompressed does not necessarily equal better audio. Sorry those are just the facts. :rolleyes:

I was saying that the TrueHD track on HD DVD was not better than the TrueHD track on Blu-Ray.

There is no doubt that TrueHD is good enough. The one good thing about uncompressed is if you don't have to worry about any mistakes made by a compressionist.

There's no doubt that Blu-Ray fans would be happy to get the extras that HD DVD is getting. Blu-Ray would have got the extras too if they'd just finalize the damn spec already. October can't come soon enough.

The HD DVD and BR should have been the same price, it's a shame they had to make it a combo.

It also[the HD DVD] got better reviews for sound as well. :)



Highdefdigest...?

Looks like they gave both 5 stars...

I can appreciate the fact that format neutral owners that don’t care about extras prefer the Blu-ray version. I’ve seen many reasons listed and I think price is definitely a valid reason.

I do question the idea that the scratch-resistant coating is a selling point. We already have documented instances of “Blu-rot” and if I had both it would concern me just like the adhesive residue on some Universal combo releases bothered me.

To neutral owners; are you concerned about the scratch-resistant layer peeling off?

This area covers HD DVD software. If you are not here for HD DVD, move on.

Now where did I read that?


You have to be aware that for some "Reading is fudnamental" (yes I mispelled that on purpose)

I was saying that the TrueHD track on HD DVD was not better than the TrueHD track on Blu-Ray.

There is no doubt that TrueHD is good enough. The one good thing about uncompressed is if you don't have to worry about any mistakes made by a compressionist.

There's no doubt that Blu-Ray fans would be happy to get the extras that HD DVD is getting. Blu-Ray would have got the extras too if they'd just finalize the damn spec already. October can't come soon enough.

The HD DVD and BR should have been the same price, it's a shame they had to make it a combo.

Some people totally overblow the audio issue. If you can honestly hear a worthwhile difference between a Dolby True HD audio track and a Blu-Ray uncompressed audio track, then you either are experiencing a placebo effect, or you are a dog. Let's be honest with ourselves here.

I got my BD copy of 300 today and it rocks, as for the HD version having better PQ I find that hard to believe.

Some people totally overblow the audio issue. If you can honestly hear a worthwhile difference between a Dolby True HD audio track and a Blu-Ray uncompressed audio track, then you either are experiencing a placebo effect, or you are a dog. Let's be honest with ourselves here.

Ditto. I can't hear the difference between TrueHD and PCM so no point in making a fuss out of it.

Kinda bugs me that he calls the film grain "video noise" but whatever.

Also I don't see how it's possible that there's a difference (even the slightest) between a 48/16 TrueHD and a 48/16 PCM track...unless of course you're challenging Dolby's claims that TrueHD isn't lossless. :p According to Dolby it's "bit-for-bit identical to the master."

This is awesome! Its a no brainer for me to grab the HD-DVD version over the BD version.

Why not get a copy of each version and check it out for yourself if reading of a quality difference in both versions bothers you so much.I own an HD DVD player and a BRD player and own plenty of discs in both formats, so have no reason to side with one over the other.Any differences in either version of the same movie that i notice so obviously i try to share with others here and really don't care whether they take my opinion into account when deciding which version of the movie to buy if they indeed have a choice.Sorry if my opinion of the 300 BRD hurt your feelings.

I find this very hard to believe. Both the HD-DVD and BD got identical VC-1 encodes. How can the HD-DVD look so much better?

I find this very hard to believe. Both the HD-DVD and BD got identical VC-1 encodes. How can the HD-DVD look so much better?

Agreed. Too many variables between your setup and someone elses.

Why not get a copy of each version and check it out for yourself if reading of a quality difference in both versions bothers you so much.I own an HD DVD player and a BRD player and own plenty of discs in both formats, so have no reason to side with one over the other.Any differences in either version of the same movie that i notice so obviously i try to share with others here and really don't care whether they take my opinion into account when deciding which version of the movie to buy if they indeed have a choice.Sorry if my opinion of the 300 BRD hurt your feelings.

So which BD player were you using I have the Panny and it has played everything amazingly will be a week before I pick up a HD DVD player trying to talk the wife into the Onkyo 875 when it comes out also.

I've already got the HD DVD and did get a peek at a friend's BRD copy and the difference in PQ is astounding imo.I don't know how they fubbed up the BRD version of 300 the way they did after making such an awesome HD DVD version.Imo the BRD version doesn't even compare and that's not even taking into account all the extra features the HD DVD version has vs. the BRD.I've never seen two versions of the same movie differ in quality so much as the HD DVD and BRD did.It's actually a shame because there really is no reason for the BRD version to be as sloppy as it is.

I'm going to borrow the 300 BRD and play it on my BRD player to see if i can notice any differences, but after seeing it played on a new Sony BRD on a Pioneer 50' plasma, i doubt my viewing expirience will change much on my 47' 1080p lcd.The one area that both versions were excellent in was the sound, but i can't say i'm as discerning concerning audio as i am with PQ.

Man ...you really need to read more before sprouting total garbage. Your friend's setup is probably not optimal to the say the least.

I'd rather watch in in 24p than have PiP commentary.

I'd rather watch in in 24p than have PiP commentary.

That's lame by way that the human eye cannot tell the difference between 24, 25, 30, 50, or 60 fps. You're not gonna notice it.

not so. Many people notice the judder of 3/2 pulldown caused by 1080p/24 info going to 1080i/60 to 1080p/60

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine

Telecine judder

The “3:2 pulldown” telecine process creates a slight error in the video signal compared to the original film frames that can be seen in the above image. This is one reason why NTSC films viewed on typical home equipment may not appear as smooth as when viewed in a cinema. The phenomenon is particularly apparent during slow, steady camera movements which appear slightly jerky when telecined. This process is commonly referred to as telecine judder.

I don't get how this title got a 4½ stars overall.

Movie: 3 stars
Picture: 4 stars
Sound: 5 Star
Extras: 3 stars
Hi-def extras: 3 stars

So '3' 3 stars, a 4 and a 5 equals almost a top overall rating? A 3 here is clearly just a mediocre rating and it got those in 3 out of 5 categories.

That's lame by way that the human eye cannot tell the difference between 24, 25, 30, 50, or 60 fps. You're not gonna notice it.That's simply not true. Try running your monitor at 120 Hertz and tell me you don't see a difference.

The actual limit of human visual perception is debatable, but somewhere in the range of 100-200fps, well above 24. The figure you probably heard is the *minimum* frames/sec necessary for persistence of vision (ie no flicker) which is totally different from the maximum limit. Plus, the human eye doesn't work based on frames and scan lines so its its not like you can directly compare them anyway.

I don't know if this has been posted yet...but I did see an hd dvd exclusive commercial for 300 last night. It talked about the blue screen stuff, etc.

I don't know if this has been posted yet...but I did see an hd dvd exclusive commercial for 300 last night. It talked about the blue screen stuff, etc.

Of course it would be an HD-DVD exclusive commerical because if they mentioned Blu-Ray then one would think that the features on the HD-DVD would be on the blu-ray version and when they find out that it doesn't then it can be seen a misadvertising.

I can appreciate the fact that format neutral owners that don’t care about extras prefer the Blu-ray version. I’ve seen many reasons listed and I think price is definitely a valid reason.

I do question the idea that the scratch-resistant coating is a selling point. We already have documented instances of “Blu-rot” and if I had both it would concern me just like the adhesive residue on some Universal combo releases bothered me.

To neutral owners; are you concerned about the scratch-resistant layer peeling off?

the rotting issue is way overblown, I've had not one problem w/ my 70 BDs. I am neutral and will go w/ BLU on this one simply because it's cheaper and there will be disc art to look at.

So which BD player were you using I have the Panny and it has played everything amazingly will be a week before I pick up a HD DVD player trying to talk the wife into the Onkyo 875 when it comes out also.


We were using a Sony BDP S300.It was attached to a Pioneer Pro-FHD1 1080P 50' Plasma and freshly calibrated.Previously i had used my BDP S300 and my 46' Sony Bravia 1080P,but i had held of my final opinion until we got everything going on my friend's plasma as the picture on that plasma is almost unmatched.I wasn't happy to see the 300 BRD to be of any less quality than the HD DVD version, but in our opinion that is indeed the case.Those who own BRD players aren't doing themselves a disservice by buying the 300 BRD, it's still better quality than most other BlueRay discs, just not Pirates of the Carribean quality.Those who are fortunate enough to own both formats or plan to buy an HD DVD player soon as yourself simply might want to opt for the HD DVD version of 300 fif not for the opinions shared in this post, then for the excellent extra multimedia features only found on the HD DVD version.

Absolutely no difference between the HD-DVD and BD version...apart from extras..
PQ is identical........AQ is identical across the TrueHD tracks....PCM is too close to call (would need to study it intently to determine any real obvious jump in quality..

Extras are superflous to say the least......I should know, as I bought the HD-DVD version myself and can only say that the extras are really a one time deal, if even that, and if any neutral has their heart set on the cheaper BD version (or whatever reason they would prefer it), then don't be dismayed as you'll not be missing much..

Comparison was made between by own HD-DVD copy running on an XE1 and the BD (my brother's) running on a PS3 (obviously the BD version looked far superior utilising the 1080p/24 ouput of the PS3 i conjunction with a compatible display, but on a base level, both versions were identical on common output)..

To be honest, I was always going to pick up the BD but managed to get a decent deal on the HD version. My only concern was potential playback problems of the combo after being burned by the Matrix Reloaded disc and The Fountain and I didn't want to get into another possible situation. So I gave Warner the benefit of the doubt after Letters from Iwo Jima played with no problems.
All that said the HD-DVD version played back with no problems and gave me a good HD experience as I noted in another thread - New 300 Review (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11138570&&#post11138570)

Its not a disc which for pure eye candy reasons, beyond the art direction, is going to astound you as the artifical grain and intentional "crushing" of the contrast, while replicated perfectly from the original, can be somewhat distracting to some people and can at times limit the "3D pop" of the image.

Either way, buy whichever one you want and you'll get the best version of the pure film experience..

I'd rather watch in in 24p than have PiP commentary.


I agree...but only if my seating distance is correct and I am using a screen over 65inches. :) For the life of me I dont understand people who are so concerned with 1080p on a screen less than 50 inches unless it is a computer monitor.


I am just glad there are 2 choices because IMO if there was only 1 we would have to like the transfer and we would probably see threads titled "Got mine on Amazon for 39.99"..... :D

I am just mad at the people who got this disc before me.... :p

I chose the Blu-Ray version over the HD-DVD version because its $4 cheaper (thats a lot for a college student =D), don't care for combo, and don't care for the extra features. I've only watched one extra feature stuff in my whole life including dvds, so I really could care less for any extra features. I just want to watch my HD movie! =)

So you're a "poor" college student with a player for BOTH formats and $4 is the deal breaker??

So to review:
-player(s) for both formats
-High def display
-some sort of surround sound setup

But $4 extra for some really neat and innovative extra features is wher you draw the line? Man, I wish I was as "poor" as you when I was in school. Maybe the ability to talk sh*t about HD DVD is worth the $4 and extra features to you.

...huh?!? :confused:

I don't get how this title got a 4½ stars overall.

Movie: 3 stars
Picture: 4 stars
Sound: 5 Star
Extras: 3 stars
Hi-def extras: 3 stars

So '3' 3 stars, a 4 and a 5 equals almost a top overall rating? A 3 here is clearly just a mediocre rating and it got those in 3 out of 5 categories.

I think Peter Baracke used a little fuzzy math there. Then again, if he gave the Blu-ray version 4 stars, then its required of him to give the HD DVD version 1/2 star more because of the extras. A ten star rating system is much more flexible.

Why are there so many blu-ray fanboys trolling around here???

maybe if there were less inaccurate statements like "highdefdigest" gave the HDdvd a better review for sound, when anyone who takes 5 seconds clicking can easily see that they both got 5 stars.

It also[the HD DVD] got better reviews for sound as well. :)

You don't think that when BD owners post inaccurate info in a BD thread that HDdvd fanboys don't swarm in...? Which forum you been reading...?

;)

Why are there so many blu-ray fanboys trolling around here???

I have no idea. My theory is that there are a lot of Blu-ray owners with false bravado. They believe they've chosen the right platform yet something is awry with them and rather than just enjoy the tranquility and finality of their decision many simply cannot help but troll through these sections counteracting any good news whether real or perceived. I believe the intent is to keep this area in a dysthymic state.

Now imagine this nugget. These people are so wrapped up in proselytizing their chosen format they have no empathy or care for others. They don't come here to say hey nick what movies have you watched or are you eating well or whatever. They're basically here to say "FU...you bought a boat anchor"

I'm buying 300 on HD DVD next week and I don't care if some prefer the Blu-ray. The more HD media that is purchased the more we ALL benefit.

The more HD media that is purchased the more we ALL benefit.


That is very true.

:)

maybe if there were less inaccurate statements like "highdefdigest" gave the HDdvd a better review for sound, when anyone who takes 5 seconds clicking can easily see that they both got 5 stars.



You don't think that when BD owners post inaccurate info in a BD thread that HDdvd fanboys don't swarm in...? Which forum you been reading...?

;)


Did you see my post after this one??


I corrected myself. I mispoke.....you saw that post and couldn't wait to respond... :rolleyes: lol anyway no harm done. Both formats are exactly the same when same codecs are used thats a fact-at least as far as PQ is concerned.

no, sorry. Thought you would've edited your post (which is still up, btw..) if you knew you had made an incorrect statement.

The extras always are better on the HD-DVD's. I've seen a few collections of both and haven't seen 1 BD that had better extras. I have both as I use them with my job. I prefer to watch the video on BD. Typically looks better in my opinion and I could care less about the extras.

So you're a "poor" college student with a player for BOTH formats and $4 is the deal breaker??

So to review:
-player(s) for both formats
-High def display
-some sort of surround sound setup

But $4 extra for some really neat and innovative extra features is wher you draw the line? Man, I wish I was as "poor" as you when I was in school. Maybe the ability to talk sh*t about HD DVD is worth the $4 and extra features to you.

...huh?!? :confused:

Hahaha! Thanks for outing the "poor" college student. Oh to be poor and in college again. :rolleyes:

I fully agree about the extras sitch. Many BDs indeed got the shaft.

Got my HD DVD copy today.. Watched it tonight - it's great!

Another friend of me has also got it today.. I add him as my buddy under comunity section and I just saw "his" own version of the movie.. That was pretty cool.. If this is just the beginning - I just can't wait what is up next! :)

Ss this actual movie all that great? I don't want to just buy this because it has an incredible picture.

I find this very hard to believe. Both the HD-DVD and BD got identical VC-1 encodes. How can the HD-DVD look so much better?
HD-DVD is a superior technology. :) :)

I don't know if this has been posted yet...but I did see an hd dvd exclusive commercial for 300 last night. It talked about the blue screen stuff, etc.


I saw this on Universal HD tonight. No mention of SD or BD. :)

HD-DVD is a superior technology. :) :)

Could you explain that statement in details only facts no he or she said :)

Umm...my parents bought the blu-ray drive for me...and I bought the 360 add-on myself. Where did I ever said I had a high def display and surround sound setup? My parents gave me the money to build a new computer. So I built an HTCP, but however, I got a 22" Samsung PC monitor. Im saving up money to get a 32" high def display sometimes down the road. I have a regular 2.1 pc speaker...Soo, I basically just buy the movies. Why are you bashing me? Can you not just accept other people points of view that's different from yours??? Like I said earlier, I have only watched one extra feature thing in my whole life including DVDs. I really could care less how cool the extra feature is. I bought a movie to watch the movie. Also, where did I talk crap about HD-DVD, I just stated the reasons why I didnt care for the HD-DVD version. I have more HD-DVD than blu-ray. And I would continue to support HD-DVD. Geezz man...

So you're a "poor" college student with a player for BOTH formats and $4 is the deal breaker??

So to review:
-player(s) for both formats
-High def display
-some sort of surround sound setup

But $4 extra for some really neat and innovative extra features is wher you draw the line? Man, I wish I was as "poor" as you when I was in school. Maybe the ability to talk sh*t about HD DVD is worth the $4 and extra features to you.

...huh?!? :confused:

I bought the BD version of 300 because

1. It was $4 cheaper than HD DVD
2. I really don't watch extras.
3. Combo. Wasn't this a combo disc I would have surely purchased the HD DVD coz playing HD DVD in my A2 is 10 times quieter than playing the BD thro the PS3.

I bought the BD version of 300 because

1. It was $4 cheaper than HD DVD
2. I really don't watch extras.
3. Combo. Wasn't this a combo disc I would have surely purchased the HD DVD coz playing HD DVD in my A2 is 10 times quieter than playing the BD thro the PS3.

doesn't reason #3 negate your opening sentence?

edit: oh, i get it. you're a combo hater, eh? i see the word 'combo' and i get excited, to say the least.

If they had redesigned the combo disks so that it should be used for extras only then I wouldn't have a problem.

combo's are HD's undoing!

I just took the easy way out and now I will have both versions. A/B comparison time.

Got this combo disc today from Walmart. Great disc IMO. The features show you the potential HD-DVD has with special features. (That all current players support) You have to register before you can post your favorite scenes, and share them with fellow HD-DVD owners.

You enter your email address on the HD-DVD player. Then you complete registration through a link in your email. Then you have to go login on your HD-DVD player, with your new login ID. No Buddy to share my scenes with yet.

username is the same on warnerbroshd= cnickersonjr

oh ok...i might do that now.

EDIT: I'm online with the buddy list thing. My username is ni9ht_5ta1k3r if you choose to add me as a buddy.

OK, Question: Since I'm not in the US can I still purchase the phone wallpapers and ringtones?

There is no doubt that TrueHD is good enough. The one good thing about uncompressed is if you don't have to worry about any mistakes made by a compressionist.

TrueHD is lossless.

I am neutral and will go w/ BLU on this one simply because it's cheaper and there will be disc art to look at.

Art work to look at is absolutely the weakest (I wanted to say dumbest) reasoning I have ever heard on these forums.

So you're a "poor" college student with a player for BOTH formats and $4 is the deal breaker??

So to review:
-player(s) for both formats
-High def display
-some sort of surround sound setup

But $4 extra for some really neat and innovative extra features is wher you draw the line? Man, I wish I was as "poor" as you when I was in school. Maybe the ability to talk sh*t about HD DVD is worth the $4 and extra features to you.

...huh?!? :confused:


His mom and dad pay for everything and he's to cheap to pitch in the extra $4 from his allowance money........ ;)

So you're a "poor" college student with a player for BOTH formats and $4 is the deal breaker??




Players are a one time deal....


I'm in the same boat. I don't need a combo, don't want to pay for a combo, and would rather save some money and get a hardcoat on my disc over some extras that I MIGHT watch once.

Blu for me.

Hot Fuzz will the be first combo I've bought. And it's the only combo I could see buying at this time, because it's a comedy I might want to drag to a friend's house to drink beer and have some laughs.



His mom and dad pay for everything and he's to cheap to pitch in the extra $4 from his allowance money........ ;)

:rolleyes:

I'm a college student, and have prolly made 15k$ this summer alone on an internship and I still won't pay the 4$ extra for a combo. Give it up....

Players are a one time deal....

I'm a college student, and have prolly made 15k$ this summer alone on an internship and I still won't pay the 4$ extra for a combo.

Stop being such a cheapskape......haha......$4 more for a HD DVD that includes a SD DVD copy of the movie isnt something you should cry about. Its a bargin imo. I dont have to buy an HD version and an SD version.....for $4 more I get both. Regardless, Just dim the lights and watch your movie. Nobody really cares what you bought or why you bought it or how much money you made over the summer. $15K isnt bad for a college kid. I've made that much in a few hours at the tables in Vegas. I've also lost that much in a few hours at the tables in Vegas...LOL!

Stop being such a cheapskape......haha......$4 more for a HD DVD that includes a SD DVD copy of the movie isnt something you should cry about. Its a bargin imo. I dont have to buy an HD version and an SD version.....for $4 more I get both. Regardless, Just dim the lights and watch your movie. Nobody really cares what you bought or why you bought it or how much money you made over the summer. $15K isnt bad for a college kid. I've made that much in a few hours at the tables in Vegas. I've also lost that much in a few hours at the tables in Vegas...LOL!

I think the point is I don't need an SD version for this movie. :cool:

If there is one thing I've found out when I got into this hobby. I've made more friends, and I go to people's houses to watch movies less and less.

I have friends drive 30 minutes to come watch movies on my PDP with surround sound and HD optical.

That and by saving 4$, it kept my total at Fry's under 100$. A 2 digit price receives far less of a punishment from the girlfriend than a 3 digit price does ;)

I think the point is I don't need an SD version for this movie. :cool:

If there is one thing I've found out when I got into this hobby. I've made more friends, and I go to people's houses to watch movies less and less.

I have friends drive 30 minutes to come watch movies on my PDP with surround sound and HD optical.

That and by saving 4$, it kept my total at Fry's under 100$. A 2 digit price receives far less of a punishment from the girlfriend than a 3 digit price does ;)


My TH-58PX60U + HD A2 setup is nice :)
I also have a Sony KDF55E2000 hooked up to a HD A2 that looks great.

I use a seperate credit card (my own...one that isnt a joint credit card with my wife on it) to buy my toys and I went paperless statements awhile back to keep her off my back regarding my spending on electronics and musical equipment....I bet the person that invented paperless statements was a guy....LOL!

The PQ is identical, and the extras I have no use for... to be honest. For me, the choice between the two formats for this title was a no-brainer.

After the problems I had with CoM on combo I will never buy another combo when given the choice with multi-format titles (assuming the PQ is identical.)

I don't like combo discs.... I don't like the way they look, I don't like the problems they give my player, I just don't want a SD DVD glued to my HDDVD's back. If I wanted the damn SD DVD I'd buy it separately.

Actually this is the first title that is out for both that I will be getting on Blu-ray. Why?

1) I don't care for the extas or the DVD combo, so why pay ~$4 more?
2) The Blu-ray version has PCM uncompressed audio that HD does not, so is the first case where Warner put potentially better sound in Blu over HD.

Actually this is the first title that is out for both that I will be getting on Blu-ray. Why?

1) I don't care for the extas or the DVD combo, so why pay ~$4 more?
2) The Blu-ray version has PCM uncompressed audio that HD does not, so is the first case where Warner put potentially better sound in Blu over HD.
PCM better than TrueHD? I don't agree with that.
I like the extra's for my 3rd to 4th viewings and on. Oh well, I guess we both enjoyed our purchase for different reasons.

Don't most studios use PCM because all of the BD players can't support TrueHD?

His mom and dad pay for everything and he's to cheap to pitch in the extra $4 from his allowance money........ ;)

Holy cow people, why are yall giving me such a hard time on my preferences. Why spend an extra $4 on something I'm never going to use. It's just like giving away $4 for something you don't want. I rather save that $4 for something else I want. :confused:

The movies I listed all have better audio on the HD DVD version :)

Dolby TrueHD on Superman Returns, Happy Feet on HD DVD. Blu-Ray has standard DD 640 kbps

DD+ 1.5 mbps on Shooter, MI:III on HD DVD. Blu-Ray has standard DD 640 kbps

Standard DD tracks are 448kbps, not 640kbps. The DD tracks you find on HD releases are actually better than standard tracks. Anyway, thos DD+ tracks are often not any better than those DD 640kbps tracks, at least not noticable

PCM better than TrueHD? I don't agree with that.
I like the extra's for my 3rd to 4th viewings and on. Oh well, I guess we both enjoyed our purchase for different reasons.

Don't most studios use PCM because all of the BD players can't support TrueHD?

A fixed bitrate is always better than a variable one. However, although the sound may be 10 times better than a dvd (on either format), it's never going to be 10 times better to the ear, so I doubt we can hear much difference between a fixed track and a variable one, although obviously, PCM is the better track between the two. That's probably the reason why reviewers often give both formats an even score

To HD DVD bashers

1. BD comes with a non-finalized spec into the hi-def market
2. BD camp couldn't care less about HDi
3. BD camp didn't foresee the importance of advanced audio codecs and made only a few mandatory.
4. Continuously crib about low bit rate and unused disc capacity though there won't be any substantial improvement in PQ.
5. Doesn't try to appreciate the HDi and web-enabled features.
6. Not happy with format neutral studios who can't give them exploding org*sms.
7. Now with profile 1.1 and 2.0 coming into effect they would find HDi (BD-J) interesting and would demand HDi in all the movies and continue to nitpick HD DVD.

Do not support BD profile 1.1 and 2.0. When you guys don't have it you don't care about it. But when someone has it you bitch about it. Finally when you guys are going to have it you rave about it and would like to claim superior status. Come on guys grow-up. Appreciate HD DVD and it's HDi features. I agree that space is a constraint. However it's not a big constraint as there hasn't been any visible drop in PQ.

Last but not least : I own the 300 on BD coz of the price factor and money sucking combos.

FYI :

Face/Off BD - MPEG-4 AVC - Saw compression artifacts @24.5 Mbps
X-Men 3 - MPEG-4 AVC - Saw compression artifacts @21.5 Mbps

Not only are you broad brushing, but there is not much truth in what you say. I have blu-ray and HD DVD. I have 80 HD DVD some with HDi and IME. I have never watched any of it. I have over 1800 DVD that have extra's on them. Never watched a single extra. I have about 85 blu-ray disc, some with extra's some not. Never watch any of it. The PQ and SQ are the only things that interest me. Having a PIP window up while I am watching a movie is a major unacceptable distraction.

Some folks are just not into extra's, and that is all there is to it.

Not only are you broad brushing, but there is not much truth in what you say. I have blu-ray and HD DVD. I have 80 HD DVD some with HDi and IME. I have never watched any of it. I have over 1800 DVD that have extra's on them. Never watched a single extra. I have about 85 blu-ray disc, some with extra's some not. Never watch any of it. The PQ and SQ are the only things that interest me. Having a PIP window up while I am watching a movie is a major unacceptable distraction.

Some folks are just not into extra's, and that is all there is to it.

Thank you :)

$4 more? I already bought 300 on HD DVD and I'm looking forward to the movie and the extra's...people crying over a lousy $4 when we paid $1000's for our setup's. WTF! :confused:

Not only are you broad brushing, but there is not much truth in what you say. I have blu-ray and HD DVD. I have 80 HD DVD some with HDi and IME. I have never watched any of it. I have over 1800 DVD that have extras on them. Never watched a single extra. I have about 85 blu-ray disc, some with extras some not. Never watch any of it. The PQ and SQ are the only things that interest me. Having a PIP window up while I am watching a movie is a major unacceptable distraction.

Some folks are just not into extras, and that is all there is to it.

One other thing. It has just recently come out on the Insiders thread from Paidgeek that the much trumpeted HD PiP in Profile 1.1 is actually NOT mandatory. Only SD PiP is mandatory. Just like HD-DVD so the whole HD PiP thing is a wash between the two. Or will be a wash for profile 1.1 players.

Strange how so many of us thought, or were led to believe without being corrected that this was going to be a big BR advantage. There are some folks that I don't usually get along with who I think were kinda hung out to dry by the BR side as I know they believed it just as I did.

Anyway cheers, and I can't wait till mine gets here tomorrow or Friday. Will definitely be checking out the extras.

Richard

More and more I am starting to think that some of these posts that go"I went with Blu Ray cus its better" may not be poor college students or average joes but people who work for the "Company" ;)

More and more I am starting to think that some of these posts that go"I went with Blu Ray cus its better" may not be poor college students or average joes but people who work for the "Company" ;)

Yes I'm the CEO of BD :D
Can't wait for my next paycheck it should be sweet.

A fixed bitrate is always better than a variable one.
Says who?

Why do you need HD PiP? Overkill, no?

PCM better than TrueHD? I don't agree with that.
I like the extra's for my 3rd to 4th viewings and on. Oh well, I guess we both enjoyed our purchase for different reasons.

Don't most studios use PCM because all of the BD players can't support TrueHD?


The Blu Ray verision offers both PCM and TrueHD. The HD verison only offers TrueHD...just to clarify.

$4 more? I already bought 300 on HD DVD and I'm looking forward to the movie and the extra's...people crying over a lousy $4 when we paid $1000's for our setup's. WTF! :confused:

It is not the $ 4.00. I hate combo disks. I will never play the SD side so why have it? I would rather have the combos contain 2 disks; 1 HD DVD and 1 SD DVD. I could use the SD version for a drink coaster!. I'll buy the BR version over the combo every time if given the chance and I like my XA2 better than my PS3

So I have to ask all the people who keep throwing out the "it was $4 more" reason for not buying the 300 HD DVD...

If the HD DVD combo was $1 less than the 300 BD version would you buy it then?

If not, what the heck does the $4 more have to do with anything? That is why guys are questioning your logic and sensibilities.

If the $4 is the reason then I do fully understand that if are building a collection and you have to make this choice 80 plus times over whatever time period, then $4 becomes a few hundred dollars pretty quick.

I just have to say I loved the PiP thing. I had no idea how many digital effects they used. I knew that had some but the number of seamless digital actors is amazing!

I just have to say I loved the PiP thing. I had no idea how many digital effects they used. I knew that had some but the number of seamless digital actors is amazing!

Chako,

I see you also have both formats. I have an A2 and a BDP S1.

I have an unopened copy of 300 BD on my shelf from MovieStop. I am deciding whether I should return it and get the HD DVD for the extras.

Sounds like you enjoyed them. Any thoughts??