View Full Version : PLIIx vs. Neo-6


WirelessGuru
08-02-07, 04:10 PM
Simple Question:

Which matrix processor is superior when a 2.0 stereo signal is applied?

TobyR
08-02-07, 06:38 PM
I am curious what others think.

I seem to recall Neo requires 5 channels, while PLIIx will work on any 3.1,5.1, etc

beuchelt
08-03-07, 12:41 AM
PL does 4.0, PLII does 5.1, NEO:6 does 5.1/6.1, and PLIIx does 6.1/7.1

jamess71
08-03-07, 10:55 AM
I'm curious too. I have both setting on my reciever and don't have a clue.

DonoMan
08-03-07, 11:43 AM
PLIIx isn't bad, but Neo:6 is definitely better to me. I use Neo:6 music mode for almost everything.

nick2010
08-03-07, 04:44 PM
Is it possible to encode something in Neo:6, or does it always upconvert?

doubleroll
08-03-07, 07:12 PM
I used to use PLIIx, but I now use Neo and find I like it better.

CAVX
08-04-07, 04:33 AM
I don't have PLIIx on my AVR, just PLII, so use Neo6 for the use of back surrounds...

Mark

roland6465
08-05-07, 08:54 AM
I'm only 5.1 in my living room, but to me Neo:6 gives a fuller, slightly louder sound than DPLIIx

thehun
08-06-07, 04:49 AM
PLIIx

patmiller
08-06-07, 11:59 AM
PLIIx

This guy must be getting paid by Dolby, :rolleyes:
Just hope he will get paid one day. :)

Deepsky4565
08-06-07, 04:44 PM
PLIIx when configured properly is excellent. I used to think PLIIx was lame until I got a Meridian 861v4, and when you get into their pc config program you can tweak it very well. Neo is out of the box much more aggressive, but probably less refined IMHO. I'm not knocking Neo, just my experience with many, many surround sound processors looking for surround nirvana.

pavment
08-06-07, 06:09 PM
PLIIx gives me a wider, room filing sound on my Denon 2807. I can't seem to enjoy any 2.0 music when using DTS Neo. However, when using movie soundtracks with DTS ES vs Dolby EX, it's a no brainer. I chose DTS.

aks434
08-07-07, 08:38 PM
Just got my Emotiva LMC1/LPA1 combo. So far Neo failed to impress but PLIIx is awesome!

WirelessGuru
08-08-07, 02:18 PM
Thanks for voting and the responses.

Personally I prefer Neo-6 most of the time, but on occasion I will find something that sounds better through PLII. Obviously Neo-6 is a bit more aggressive so maybe that is what I am basing my opinion on. I posted the poll to make sure I wasn't missing something or my ears were deceiving me. PLIIx is so highly regarded and frequently mentioned on AVS, but I hardly ever hear mention of Neo-6.

It looks pretty much to be a dead heat as far as voting. I just wanted to make sure one format wasn't superior in theory. Looks like I will continue to select my matrixing format of choice on a case by case basis depending on which sounds better with the supplied content. Thanks again for voting.

ar surround
08-10-07, 08:27 PM
They both are decent for simulating surround sound from 2-channel sources. My preference is PLIIx. Lexicon Logic 7 blows both of them away by a huge margin. Of course you need to mortgage your house to buy a Lex, but that's another story.

ttskyline2001
08-10-07, 08:39 PM
my vote goes to PLIIx

Loomis2
08-12-07, 02:24 PM
Interesting debate. I recently purchased a Yamaha 661 which does all those formats plus Neural Surround, and I seem to lean towards that format. Not just for music but for surround sound movies as well. I have been trying to figure out what Neural Surround was created for, since all the manual for the receiver says is it was created for XM radio. I have been trying out all the decoders on the system and I keep coming back to Neural Surround as the best sounding of them all. Does that seem right?

gbaby
08-12-07, 10:34 PM
Simple Question:

Which matrix processor is superior when a 2.0 stereo signal is applied?

The quality of DTS-Neo6 and Dolby Pro-logic IIx depends on the quality of your processor or receiver. I currently own the Arcam AV9 pre-pro processor, and on it, IIx sounds better on 99% of 2 channel sound I play on it. Its 7.2 sound is more immersive than just plain stereo. It can be addicting.

thehun
08-13-07, 07:05 AM
The quality of DTS-Neo6 and Dolby Pro-logic IIx depends on the quality of your processor or receiver. I currently own the Arcam AV9 pre-pro processor, and on it, IIx sounds better on 99% of 2 channel sound I play on it. Its 7.2 sound is more immersive than just plain stereo. It can be addicting.

I disagree. It has to do more with the facts which version your equipment has.
I don't know about PLIIx but Neo 6 has been updated many times since it's debut without any "version designation". These are nothing but algorythms on a chip, the fact it is housed in different components will have no effect on it by itself.

lefthandluke
08-14-07, 10:48 PM
PLIIx sounds better to me...if, as deepsky says, system is correctly figured. I find neo6 to sound a little closer to seven channel stereo than i like.

dgjr
03-02-08, 08:03 AM
Interesting debate. I recently purchased a Yamaha 661 which does all those formats plus Neural Surround, and I seem to lean towards that format. Not just for music but for surround sound movies as well. I have been trying to figure out what Neural Surround was created for, since all the manual for the receiver says is it was created for XM radio. I have been trying out all the decoders on the system and I keep coming back to Neural Surround as the best sounding of them all. Does that seem right?



Dude is thread is old but i agree with you. Neural Surround sounds better than all em.