View Full Version : Are there any cheap universal remotes that support the Sony PIP and Window buttons?


j123
08-03-07, 01:41 AM
For RCA UTV units the Directv univeral remotes such as RC23 or RC32 can control the PIP and CH CTRL functions by using the red and green buttons. With the Sony UTVs only the red button works for turning PIP on and off. The green button doesn't do anything. So are there any cheap universal remotes that will support both buttons with a Sony UTV?

rocket
08-04-07, 01:00 AM
My oneforall 9910 has 3 pip keys. If you don't need the rf, they have ir versions.

Cheap? Dunno, I found one online for $30 or so. I have 2 of them and have gone the whole 9 yards and with a special cable and some pc software (not trivial to use though) completely program the unit to do basically any function from any remote on any key.

One reason I'd hate to leave utv is I'ts been a while since I programmed the remote and I'd hate to have to redo all that. I actually bought the second one as a backup; with the software you can clone them easily.

It's also great out of the box. Has all the codes and you can have it learn what's missing from another remote.

Edmund
08-05-07, 12:29 AM
The One-For-All urc-6820 or 8820 can be had for $10 on-line. Using setup code SAT 0639 and theses advanced codes:

PIP- 00034
DISPLAY- 00226
PIP SWAP- 00114
PLAY- 00208
PAUSE- 00206
REWIND- 00204
FF- 00211
STOP- 00236
RECORD- 00207
EXIT- 00252
HOME- 00000
RECENT- 00156
MENU-00002
OPTIONS- 00254
WEB- 00227
SEARCH- 00110
INFO- 00112

j123
08-09-07, 06:19 PM
Where did you get the advanced codes and how do you enter them? Will a URC-6131N do the same thing? Thanks!

Edmund
08-10-07, 12:04 AM
Those I have had for long time, even though I never owned sony UTV. Yes the 6131n would work, but you would drop the two preceding zeroes. To map a advanced code:

1. sat
2. press and hold SET for two blinks
3. enter 9 9 4
4. press SET for one blink
5. enter 3 or 5 digit advanced code
6. pick a unused key

j123
08-10-07, 05:43 AM
Thanks. That will work but kind it's a pain to punch in all those codes. Is there an easier way? JP1? I don't know much about it but I've heard of it.

Edmund
08-10-07, 05:32 PM
You won't have to do all of them, the transport functions are already mapped via SAT code 0639.

rocket
08-10-07, 11:37 PM
Jp1 is for the geek type (like me :) ), but you'd have to find this a fun project. You can program quite a bit w/o jp1, but if you get a unit set up that drives 5-7 devices, you'd hate to lose that. That's why I got a second unit and used the jp1 to clone it.

I also find the rf unit 9910, while a little expensive ($30-50) it solved my problems where I have all my equipment in a remote room. I don't have to point the unit at anything in particular.


Once I had that, I looked into full programming. I wanted to use certain keys that normally can't be programmed. The units come with only a limited macro capability unless you go the advanced route. For example, I wanted my 30-sec skip key to be the easiest key to find w/o looking, i.e. the lower right corner. This key is even called com-skip but it's a rather useless feature as designed. Likewise, the fav key normally can't hold a macro.

But first off you'd need a cable:

http://www.diygadget.com/store/jp1/jp1-x-for-remote-controls/jp1-simple-cable/prod_7.html

you can build it yourself, but it wasn't worth my trouble.

Order Inventory:
Product: JP1 Simple Cable
Quantity: 1
Product Code: DG-JP1-P02
Price: $13.97

Then you get the jp1 software, there's a forum for it.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/

You will have to study some, as it's a bit tricky. There's a way to download software that totally takes over the unit and gives you the most flexibility.

You have very flexible control, even such things as how long a delay between sending multiple keys. I have a row of 4,5,and 6, 30 second skips. These work superbly for baseball. I even have one key that does 4 7sec back skips. Really makes the utv a lot more fun.

Really an advanced piece of hardware. And very robust, I've dropped it many times and it never loses anything.