View Full Version : Kinetic Noise Isomax Clip


taker
08-04-07, 09:34 PM
I've been looking at Kinetics Noise" Isomax Isolator Clip" wanted to know if anyone has had any experience or an opinion with this product, is this one better than any of the other ones . The Isomax isolator has a Neoprene isolation element inside clip where the hat channel fit into is necessary ? Looking for some opinions ...Thanks :cool:

Dennis Erskine
08-05-07, 07:30 AM
Far more time consuming to install than these: http://www.pac-intl.com/rsic.htm

taker
08-05-07, 01:38 PM
Far more time consuming to install than these: http://www.pac-intl.com/rsic.htm


I believe your right sir, I was wondering if the neoprene that holds the hat channel reduce vibrations from sound, they are a little costly, are they worth it :cool:

The Bogg
08-08-07, 03:30 PM
Far more time consuming to install than these: http://www.pac-intl.com/rsic.htm

Interesting. Rives has specified the isomax in my installation because they are lower profile than the rsic and will lower the ceiling height by a smaller amount. Unfortunately, I'm restricted by my 7.5 ft ceilings in the basement.

Anyone know where to buy the isomax? Any Canadian dealers?

Papajin
08-08-07, 03:42 PM
Interesting. Rives has specified the isomax in my installation because they are lower profile than the rsic and will lower the ceiling height by a smaller amount. Unfortunately, I'm restricted by my 7.5 ft ceilings in the basement.

Anyone know where to buy the isomax? Any Canadian dealers?

I've noticed a few people have just installed blocks between their joists and used the RSIC clips with the hat channel running parallel to their joists to get around the higher profile. Of course getting everything at the right height and level could be quite time consuming, I'd imagine, so unless there's a big difference in capabilities, I don't know if it's worth it or not. Can't say as I've seen a lot of comparison information between the RSIC and Isomax products. Most people seem to go with and/or recommend the RSIC though.

Cathan
08-08-07, 05:51 PM
I've noticed a few people have just installed blocks between their joists and used the RSIC clips with the hat channel running parallel to their joists to get around the higher profile. Of course getting everything at the right height and level could be quite time consuming, I'd imagine, so unless there's a big difference in capabilities, I don't know if it's worth it or not. Can't say as I've seen a lot of comparison information between the RSIC and Isomax products. Most people seem to go with and/or recommend the RSIC though.

Funny you should mention it, this issue was just discussed in my build thread. I plan on using the RSIC clips with blocking to minimize my ceiling height loss.

The Bogg
08-08-07, 10:27 PM
Funny you should mention it, this issue was just discussed in my build thread. I plan on using the RSIC clips with blocking to minimize my ceiling height loss.

Unless they were significantly cheaper or easier to install (which it doesn't sound like with the block method) I don't see why the RSIC would be preferred. To each their own I guess. Probably won't go wrong choosing either way.

vanut
08-08-07, 11:08 PM
Interesting. Rives has specified the isomax in my installation because they are lower profile than the rsic and will lower the ceiling height by a smaller amount. Unfortunately, I'm restricted by my 7.5 ft ceilings in the basement.

Anyone know where to buy the isomax? Any Canadian dealers?


I ended up using the isomax instead of the RSIC and it was a breeze to install.

vanut
08-08-07, 11:10 PM
Far more time consuming to install than these: http://www.pac-intl.com/rsic.htm


My experience tells me otherwise as I am DIY guy and I tried both products

taker
08-09-07, 01:34 AM
My experience tells me otherwise as I am DIY guy and I tried both products


Did you use any other Kinetics products? the Rim floating floor by any chance.. and where did you buy from

Dennis Erskine
08-09-07, 07:25 AM
Both clips perform as expected and provide the mechanical isolation as specified in the technical data. Both clips are UL listed. The Isomax is a lower profile installation. A larger cavity depth is beneficial in technical installations. None-the-less, it takes exactly twice as long to install two fasteners as it does to install one. If you're installing a 100 clips, not a big deal. If you're installing 800 to 1000 clips and paying for the labor, it makes a difference.

The Bogg
08-09-07, 11:30 AM
Interestingly, the isomax is considerably cheaper than the rsic. I also found what looks like a copy of the isomax. Here's the link: http://www.soundisolationcompany.com/docs/resilient-wall-ceiling.pdf

They were selling for $5.50 each for a 100 so I think it just makes more sense for me to get the isomax. Now I just have to find a place to get them from, preferably in Canada. Anyone have any suggestions?

ccoolidge
08-09-07, 01:38 PM
This site sells the isomax clips for $4.51 apiece. No idea how much shipping & duties to Canada would be.

Isomax dealer (http://www.residtronics.com/page/SR/PROD/ISOLATION/KIN-ISOMAX)

taker
08-13-07, 06:34 PM
I was just curious as to how far I should go with my home theater designer when I talk to him later this week

The Bogg
08-13-07, 11:41 PM
I was just curious as to how far I should go with my home theater designer when I talk to him later this week

Don't go past first base or he won't respect you in the morning. :)

krasmuzik
08-14-07, 11:47 AM
Interestingly, the isomax is considerably cheaper than the rsic. I also found what looks like a copy of the isomax. Here's the link: http://www.soundisolationcompany.com/docs/resilient-wall-ceiling.pdf

They were selling for $5.50 each for a 100 so I think it just makes more sense for me to get the isomax. Now I just have to find a place to get them from, preferably in Canada. Anyone have any suggestions?

This is a local distributor of RSIC clips - so they are listing retail pricing...quantity or discount suppliers can be less.

http://www.professionalacousticsco.com/shopping_cart.html

Seems about the same pricing to me...and if you really want to save money - the RSIC-V is just the metal part - reduced performance at a reduced price.

av noob
08-16-07, 06:04 PM
If you use quietrock instead of regular sheetrock/drywall, is it necessary to use the isomax or rsic clips?

Dennis Erskine
08-17-07, 06:51 AM
Both the Quiet Solutions and Green Glue Company web sites have test results which can assist you with that answer. The short answer is, yup, use 'em.

The Bogg
11-09-07, 11:48 PM
After much hullabaloo the package of isomax units arrived from the US (to Canada). My contractor put them up and they were easy to work with and look like they'll do the trick with minimal ceiling height loss. I recommend them!

Guru
11-10-07, 07:17 PM
I'm using them on my ceiling as well. Although I have 8 foot ceilings at the lowest point and 9 foot elsewhere I am using them because they came highly recommended by a friend who has them as well. They seem easier to install than the RSIC clips.

YoungOne
11-11-07, 01:22 PM
Would the isomax support 2 layers of sheetrock?

The Bogg
11-13-07, 12:39 AM
Hope so otherwise it's going to come crashing down in my basement! Check out the website, it has good info. You'll have to use a minimum number of them with the appropriate sized hat channel for the ability to hold a certain weight. AFAIK, holding 2 sheets of 5/8 drywall with green glue is not a problem....that's what I'm having done.

vanut
11-13-07, 02:24 AM
Would the isomax support 2 layers of sheetrock?

I used ISOMAX with two 5/8th of sheetrock...no problem..

BTW I used a little more than the recommended just to be sure..