yoshiamano
08-06-07, 09:57 PM
Hi I was wondering if anyone has the Sony Bravia model KDF-37H1000 calibration numbers. I cant afford to have it professional done but if anyone has done it themselves or has a link to one I would greatly appreciate it.
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View Full Version : Need help calibrating TV yoshiamano 08-06-07, 09:57 PM Hi I was wondering if anyone has the Sony Bravia model KDF-37H1000 calibration numbers. I cant afford to have it professional done but if anyone has done it themselves or has a link to one I would greatly appreciate it. cheezycheech 08-06-07, 10:43 PM you can search the net and find a calibration disc like the links i posted below and do it yourself. http://www.videoessentials.com/products_main.php http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/004592.html yoshiamano 08-06-07, 10:53 PM Thanks mate!! :) yoshiamano 08-15-07, 08:41 PM After purchasing my TV with a 5 year warranty along with a PS3 I cannot afford the Calibration dvds recomended to me. I looked all over the internet but cannot find any information about self-calibrated results for my tv model. If anyone can share their results or provide a link to help me get my tv setup right I would be very very grateful. Once more my tv model is Sony Bravia KDF37H1000. thanks again Michael TLV 08-15-07, 09:14 PM Greetings So you cannot afford $20 for a test disc? Regards yoshiamano 08-16-07, 04:51 PM I was under the assumption that the DVE calibration dvd was the better of the two. That is $35 and I would imagine that that shipping would be tacked on as well. Its not that I cant afford $20 but rather now is not the best time. I was looking for some help as I could get a quick fix for my tv but I suppose I will just have to wait it out. derekjsmith 08-16-07, 05:19 PM Check all your DVD's you have now. Many have the THX optimizer (http://www.thx.com/home/dvd/optimizer/index.html) section that will have a basic calibration for Brightness, Contrast, Color and Tint. It's not regarded as the best or very accurate but at least you will get an idea of what it takes to perform a basic calibration with a disk. Once you can afford a better disk like Avia, DVE or GetGray I would get one. jdoostil 08-16-07, 07:17 PM I was under the assumption that the DVE calibration dvd was the better of the two. That is $35 and I would imagine that that shipping would be tacked on as well. Its not that I cant afford $20 but rather now is not the best time. I was looking for some help as I could get a quick fix for my tv but I suppose I will just have to wait it out. amazon has both avia and dve. i think i paid like $14 for the avia disc yoshiamano 08-17-07, 05:44 PM Thanks for the info. I will definetly rummage through all of my DVD and see if any have the THX optimizer mentioned. Also ill have to look into amazon for DVE. Thanks again maxdb 08-17-07, 08:41 PM After purchasing my TV with a 5 year warranty along with a PS3 I cannot afford the Calibration dvds recomended to me. I looked all over the internet but cannot find any information about self-calibrated results for my tv model. If anyone can share their results or provide a link to help me get my tv setup right I would be very very grateful. Once more my tv model is Sony Bravia KDF37H1000. thanks again The first thing that you have to understand is that every video display is different. You can calibrate 20 of them profesionally and you will have 20 different sets of numbers. So the numbers somebody else got are not very likely to be the right numbers for your TV. D-6500 08-17-07, 09:47 PM Thanks for the info. I will definetly rummage through all of my DVD and see if any have the THX optimizer mentioned. Also ill have to look into amazon for DVE. Thanks again Another option for self calibration relies not upon pattern discs but your own eyes: the Rich Harkness "steaming rat" method. It is mentioned somewhere in one of the more recent threads. The aim of the Harkness method is not to align your TV to an NTSC or HD or cinematic standard, but rather, to get the controls to resemble life as you see it through your own eyes. His idea is that the TV should be a window to the real world - it should neither add to or detract from real life. It's a more common-sense approach that may, depending on your perception, surpass your expectations of a step-by-step AVIA or DVE calibration. Get into a mind frame of "What does that person, race track, elephant, forest, New York City Street, school bus, or Siberian Husky really look like?" Does the newscaster look like anybody sitting near you in your own room? You will manipulate the controls while thinking along those lines. He leads you through setting Brightness(dark end), Contrast(bright end), Color, Tint, and Sharpness, and suggests using a warmer color temperature. And although I didn't read as much specifically, I would imagine Rich would suggest turning off dNie, SVM, and other edge enhancement, skin enhancement "eye candy". The approach to each setting is commonsense: How bright, overall, is a given scene? Lower the contrast until bright areas are still white, but not glaring(on a flat screen) or blooming(on a tube CRT). Adjust the brightness until blacks are just black, but background details and the textures of dark clothing are not lost. Lower the color saturation. Chances are the "middle" user setting bears no resemblence to any middle in fact. Lower the color until reds especially no longer glow. Skin tones should become a warmish beige - and no longer orangey. Lowering the color may also allow more detail in texture to be present - such as the blades of grass on a playing field. Lower color too much, and people may appear sickly pale, the grass, gray. Use common sense here. This link "should" get you to the steaming rat method page. http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=261309 The Harkness method may not cure egregious color temperature or gamma errors, but it will definitely help your TV work less hard to deliver a realistic picture, and help your mind work less hard correcting subconsciously for those "BUY ME, BUY ME!" factory settings. regards, maxdb 08-18-07, 07:25 PM Another option for self calibration relies not upon pattern discs but your own eyes: the Rich Harkness "steaming rat" method. It is mentioned somewhere in one of the more recent threads. The aim of the Harkness method is not to align your TV to an NTSC or HD or cinematic standard, but rather, to get the controls to resemble life as you see it through your own eyes. His idea is that the TV should be a window to the real world - it should neither add to or detract from real life. It's a more common-sense approach that may, depending on your perception, surpass your expectations of a step-by-step AVIA or DVE calibration. Get into a mind frame of "What does that person, race track, elephant, forest, New York City Street, school bus, or Siberian Husky really look like?" Does the newscaster look like anybody sitting near you in your own room? You will manipulate the controls while thinking along those lines. He leads you through setting Brightness(dark end), Contrast(bright end), Color, Tint, and Sharpness, and suggests using a warmer color temperature. And although I didn't read as much specifically, I would imagine Rich would suggest turning off dNie, SVM, and other edge enhancement, skin enhancement "eye candy". The approach to each setting is commonsense: How bright, overall, is a given scene? Lower the contrast until bright areas are still white, but not glaring(on a flat screen) or blooming(on a tube CRT). Adjust the brightness until blacks are just black, but background details and the textures of dark clothing are not lost. Lower the color saturation. Chances are the "middle" user setting bears no resemblence to any middle in fact. Lower the color until reds especially no longer glow. Skin tones should become a warmish beige - and no longer orangey. Lowering the color may also allow more detail in texture to be present - such as the blades of grass on a playing field. Lower color too much, and people may appear sickly pale, the grass, gray. Use common sense here. This link "should" get you to the steaming rat method page. http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=261309 The Harkness method may not cure egregious color temperature or gamma errors, but it will definitely help your TV work less hard to deliver a realistic picture, and help your mind work less hard correcting subconsciously for those "BUY ME, BUY ME!" factory settings. regards, I know this steaming rat thing isn't yours, so PLEASE don't take offense... but it won't accomplish anything you can't do with the free calibration procedure on some THX DVDs. Here is why... Let's say you have 2 people... one who has been tested to have very accurate color vision, and one who perceives colors a bit differently... for whatever reason and that person has ALWAYS berceived color differently. And let's give them a color selection test - a straighforward test with no optical illusion stuff or anything. Nothing that will trick their color perception. Let's say the test is to show both subjects a large color sample, then we place that color sample among other similar and dissimilar colors and have them pick the color we just showed them. To make the illustration, lets use digital RGB numbers to represent the colors 0-0-0 would be black, 255-255-255 would be white, 255-0-0 would be pure bright red, 0-255-0 would be pure green, and 0-0-255 would be pure blue. So we hold up a color sample thats 200-20-0. That will be a pretty bright red shifted just a little to orange, maybe not QUITE as orange as a nice ripe tomato. Show that to both guys then have them pick it out from a group of reds that have no green, maybe a little extra blue, some with more red, some with less red... mix the parameters up a bit but nothing so close to the sample that you couldn't tell that sample. Now, both people will pick the correct sample because the accurate color guy isn't going to see any colors there that look quite like the sample. But the guy who perceives color a little differently is ALSO going to pick the same sample because that color ALWAYS looks like that to him ALWAYS. Now, you can MEASURE that color with a colorimeter or spectrophotometer and adjust a video display to make that color exactly the same. When you put that color up on the video display, both the accurate color guy and the "off" guy are going to say, yes, that is the same color as the sample we were shown. The point is somebody who has color vision that is "off" a bit doesn't really KNOW that. They perceive specific combinations of red, green, and blue as that color. The OFF guy may perceive fire engine red as being a little brown - but every fire engine he's ever seen has been painted that color so he knows exactly how it looks. If you make that fire engine red any other color on his video display, he's going to think it is WRONG. So even somebody who doesn't perceive color "accurately" is going to be perfectly fine with an instrumented color calibration that sets colors accurately because anything else will produce colors DIFFERENT than what they are used to seeing. So the 'stinking rat' method does NOTHING better than you can do with a calibration disc or professional calibration. If someone with "off" color perception uses a calibration disc (i.e. Avia, DVE, etc.), they will get a calibration that looks right to them and it's very likely to be the same calibration you or I come up with - or very close to it. What if none of us perceived color the same? What if what I think is "Sky Blue" is really "mustard"? How would I ever know that? I would think anytime somebody referred to something as that cool color of 'sky blue' that they meant the same 'mustard' color I've been seeing all my life. If you somehow figured out I was seeing 'mustard' instead of 'sky blue' and you calibrated my video display so the sky was 'mustard' colored, I would think it was completely wrong. :o There are some worthwhile concepts in the steaming rat method, but none of them ever get you locked down to the right setting like you can do with a calibration disc (fairly close) or personal calibration (SpyderTV, SpyderTVPro, etc.) or pro calibration where you get more than just the right color as part of the deal. |