View Full Version : Sony VPL AW15 settings? How is yours set?
plissken99 08-07-07, 01:18 PM I just got the AW15 as a temporary measure since funding fell through for the JVC RS1, and we needed a projector. I set it up, and the sharpness is suprising, it's sharper than my old Barco G808 ever was. Black level is revolting, however I haven't had much time to work with it, plus we just moved and the theater room at the moment is totally white, carpet, walls everything :eek: . I imagine that is heavily crapping on the black level, after all I expect better from a device rated at 12000:1(all manufacturers exagerations aside), since the RS1 looks totally black to me, though it also achieves 150000:1 without the iris cheat.
I expect the black level to greatly improve once I get some black material on the projection wall. All that aside, what are your settings as far as color? Most of my AV components won't be here until tomorrow, so I won't be able to do much calibration, and having some peoples figures would be nice to save time.
I should note, there is nothing to setting up a digital compared to CRT! And it makes me cry that standard DVD looks as sharp as the HD-DVD and Blu Ray material I've watched, can't wait to see HD on this thing! Once tyhe black level improves, I can honestly say it's a lot of machine for the money!
Thanks
CaspianM 08-07-07, 02:29 PM It should give you at least 7k:1 and your room has nothing to do with it unless you mean ansi contrast. Are you using the auto iris in low lamp? JVC has an internal fixed iris as well.
Ovation 08-07-07, 03:34 PM I ran DVE with mine. Here are some of the settings (I don't know them all from memory and I'm not near my pj right now):
I leave mine in Cinema mode. Auto 1 for the Iris--speed setting Recommended (fast and slow are the other options). Lamp to low. Brightness at 46 (post DVE). Contrast about 53 (post DVE--could be 54). Don't remember the Color setting but it's not far from centre (50). Hue is at 50 (centred). Sharpness at Min. NR off (for DVDs--I use it with SD TV but I've watched little of that so far). DDR set to Film (does the deinterlacing--other settings are Progressive and off, from memory--could be wrong about that).
Those are the settings I remember. I have a green tint issue in the lower left corner that has practically disappeared with these settings (I posted about that in the main AW15 thread). I have yet to try using the service menu correction for this issue as helpfully suggested by CaspianM (haven't had time--been too busy enjoying the films plus I'd rather not be fiddling with the service menu while the kids are home and serve as a distraction) but I'll get around to it eventually.
I will also try the RGB adjustments he suggested in the "tweaking" thread (again, when I have time) as I have noticed a bit of "dis"uniformity with B&W films (and I have a fair number of those). It is a minor irritant, though, so I don't feel rushed about it.
I have a 65 inch DIY screen made with a fibreboard panel, white on one side (closest "brand name" analogous would be, if I read the DIY screen area correctly, Do-Able Board--not actually available in my area). It is laid over a dry-erase white marker board that I was using originally (with borrowed pjs from my wife's office and for the first two days with the Sony) but it was "hot spotting" severely and magnifying the "green tint" issue to an unacceptable degree. As each of these screens was not professionally made, I have no idea what the gain on either one is, but the new one is a much lower gain yet still plenty bright. The room has white acoustic fibreglass drop ceiling tiles but the walls are a dark forest green, the carpet is a mixture of colours (a bit of beige but the rest is mostly dark), the shelves are black and the light is totally at my discretion.
In the dark (at night, no lights on in the room), blacks on the screen look very good to me. I'm no videophile, and doubtless some would not find them "inky" enough--but the LOTR EE films (all three), with plenty of dark scenes, looked great to me. All in all, the blacks are very good (to me) and I have NO complaints on that score.
SDE is barely perceptible when the lens is at its sharpest focus and it is gone when I defocus it VERY slightly (I sit at 8 feet or so from the screen). All in all, I'm very happy (now that I've reduced the one issue to where I'm fine with it, and knowing I have options to further reduce, maybe eliminate it altogether--I also assume as the bulb ages, the issue, should it remain, will diminish from that as well). For the price, I have 65 inches now (and room for about 80 next year when we plan to move a number of things around in the house) for the price of a 42 inch plasma. NO CONTEST (though it is a bit more cumbersome--have to give the plasma credit for that). I watched a 50 inch plasma at my friend's house the other night and while it was quite nice, I have no "buyer's remorse" on my choice of display technology.
plissken99 08-09-07, 06:50 PM It should give you at least 7k:1 and your room has nothing to do with it unless you mean ansi contrast.
Are you saying blackening the surrounding wall won't help perceived black level? I heard that helps even with CRT projectors.
TY Ovation, I'll get to play with the settings tonight and see how it comes out, just just unpacked Video Essensials!
CaspianM 08-09-07, 07:43 PM Reducing the room reflectivity will increase the contrast when you have both hi white and black(ansi contrast). But low contrast clips like nights etc will not be affected by room.
Usually the brighter the pj more rooms parameters will influence the image on screen.
plissken99 08-09-07, 07:48 PM Reducing the room reflectivity will increase the contrast when you have both hi white and black(ansi contrast).
As in when you have an image with dark areas, and bright objects on screen at the same time? I think thats what you refer to, as bright scenes look quite good as is. Because when I have a mostly black image, with bright parts(i.e starscapes), I can visibly identify that light is being reflected off the ceiling and surrounding walls hurting the black level.
Sorry if I'm obviously missing something. I've been using a CRT projector in a very dark colored room until now.
CaspianM 08-09-07, 09:39 PM As in when you have an image with dark areas, and bright objects on screen at the same time? I think thats what you refer to, as bright scenes look quite good as is. Because when I have a mostly black image, with bright parts(i.e starscapes), I can visibly identify that light is being reflected off the ceiling and surrounding walls hurting the black level.
Sorry if I'm obviously missing something. I've been using a CRT projector in a very dark colored room until now.
Yes to all. I also own a CRT XG1352LC and the Sony HS51A.
plissken99 08-13-07, 12:26 AM Well, I've gotten some black material around the projected image, and on the surrounding walls. Gotta say for the money it is one helluva projector. Colors pop right off the screen, even on DVD the level of sharpness is astounding. It's funny on bright(er) scenes with black areas, the blacks look incredible and add a lot of depth to the image, but on mostly dark scenes, the backs are gray, really gray. Is there anything I can do in the service menu, adding a filter perhaps? It's really superior to my old Barco is every way except black levels.
I set the gamma to 2, and turned off enhanced black level, since both of those did nothing help the overall blackness, they just masked shadow detail.
Course there is another factor coming into play. I ordered a screen in anticipation of the RS1, it's a 147in high power perm wall screen, it's coming Thursday. I'm anxious to see how that changes things.
Also, screendoor was bugging the hell out of me. So using a pair of binoculars, I defocused it ever so slightly, screendoor gone, razor sharp image remains!
CaspianM 08-13-07, 12:58 AM I assume you have the Auto Iris on.
Get into the service and increase "close iris" by 10 and decrease "open value" by 20.
if 10 causes too much shadow detail loss decrease it by 5. Back and forth until it looks OK.
It will never be crt but gets better. Give each change ample time like a couple of movies or so before next reiteration.
In service menu the iris tweak is hidden Under "Other".
Select, select,left, Select, Up. Prompts you if you want to enter Service hit select.
Press menu and choose the last item, find "other" and up arrow until you find the parameters.
Good luck
plissken99 08-13-07, 04:24 AM That helped a little but, it adds a little depth to scenes with lots of black. Think it's livable for now, the nice thing is that after living with it for a couple of months, i'll have zero issue with the RS1's black level post CRT.
CaspianM 08-13-07, 09:49 AM Glad it helped. Agree it is an excellent pj.
My XG1352LC is a few steps ahead of this in overall PQ but I only use this dpj for HD TV watching.
Wish we had some definative settings for this great projector. Im running on the default out of the box settings and would love some basic calibration settings. An old thread but even the master thread seems to be lacking in this information.
topsolid2k 05-21-08, 04:36 PM me too ....
i saw some rgb and rbg bias settings some where ...
everything is scatted unfortunately .. someone should find all recommendations and post in official calibration thread ..
manupooja 05-23-08, 03:29 AM That helped a little but, it adds a little depth to scenes with lots of black. Think it's livable for now, the nice thing is that after living with it for a couple of months, i'll have zero issue with the RS1's black level post CRT.
hey
plisken99
i have the sameprojector can u pls tell me wat value u decrease and increase i mean can u tell me how much no. like i set mine open value reg to 684 and close iris reg at 240
pls reply
plissken99 05-23-08, 01:19 PM I got your PM also. Unfortunatly I don't have the projector anymore, upgraded to the RS1. And I don't remember the values to increase or decrease, but I'm sure someone in this thread does.
manupooja 05-25-08, 07:32 AM it's ok bro
so how's the quality of rs1 at how much price
i'm planning to buy also full hd projector i like epson pro home cinema i heard it's got great quality tooo
GeorgeM 05-25-08, 08:41 AM thank you very much
plissken99 05-25-08, 03:20 PM I got my RS1 used with just 400 hours on the bulb for $3300. It doesn't even compare to the AW15, with 1080p it's vastly sharper, and the 15,000:1 native contrast blows the Sony's black level away. The Sony is still an excellent value though, I sold mine for $700, which was a bargain for the image it outputs.
manupooja 06-18-08, 02:23 AM hey ovation
i have a ques i messed mine iris settings in service menu of sony vpl aw15 projector
can u pls tell me wat's the open iris reg and close iris reg for sony vpl aw 15
u can go to service menu by pressing select select left select up and u have a device menu at the end of menu settings here go to setting names "other"
here u can have open iris reg and close iris reg value mine rite now is open iris reg at 704 and close reg is at 255
pls tell me
i also ask pliskin but he sold it anywayz thank pliskin for u support
so oviation pls reply
manu
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