Finally got my 705!!

Been waiting on some money to come in for a while which I'd already allocated to buying the receiver. It came in today and I crossed the border after work to pick it up. If Prison Break wasn't going to be on in about 45 minutes, I'd be hooking it up right now. Still waiting on some cables as well so that I can connect everything properly, but we all know that I'm going to do the best I can in the meantime :D

BTW, paid $649 + tax and a 3 year warranty for $30 at Circuit City. Not a bad price I think?

Hello All,

Extremely great forum! I am new to Onkyo. I've always had Sony and for the most part been happy. Well last week I decided it was time to upgrade so I bought a 705 from CC. I got it all hooked up and when it works, it sounds great! Keyword being WHEN. I have my Dishnetwork receiver DVR622 hooked up via HDMI in to HDMI 1. I have my Xbox 360 hooked up via HDMI in to HDMI 2. And my DVD player via HDMI in to HDMI 3. If I turn the 705 off, and then come back say a few hours later, there is video but no audio from HDMI 1. In order to get the 705 to produce sound from the DVR, I literally have to unplug the HDMI cable out of HDMI 1 and reinsert it. Then the 705 picks up the signal and I have sound, until I turn off the unit. Otherwise, I just get video with no audio and the HDMI word flashes on the 705 screen. I've called and left VM's for Onkyo tech support as well as two emails. I've received no response.

IMO, I am thinking it has something to do with the HDMI switching, but not sure.

I am wondering if I would be better suited with the Sony STR-DG910. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!

You can not update the software in the 622. Dish has to push it out to you. Most users have version 445 but 446 is just being pushed out to users.

Well I bought a new DMI cable and still have the same issue. The 705 will not allow any sound through it until I unplug and reinsert the cable.

**UPDATE** It is all 3 HDMI inputs. Not just HDMI-1 that's having this issue. When I unplug and the reinsert the cable, I see a slight spark (power connecting) and then viola, the 705 will allow sound. I am very perplexed.

HobbyTalk, you're right, I cannot do a FW update. I am 445.

So, I am very confused and I cannot get Onkyo to respond to any of my emails. I am tempted to return the 705 and exchange it. Then, if it still does it, I will know for sure it's not the 205. :D

Any other suggestions??? I am wide open...

Hi all! After several years of reading I've finally registered and so this is one of my first posts. I've gone through many, many pages on this thread but have not been able to find an answer for a question I have (man! this is a huge thread like the A2 thread!) So here's the question:

I recently purchased the A2 and was considering purchasing the onkyo 705. My Mitsu TV only accepts component, no HDMI. Is it possible to connect the HDMI AND compononent out from the A2 to the 705 in order to get both the DolbyHD signal as well as maintain 1080i picture quality for my mitsu? I only want the HDMI to do the audio and let the component pass through. If this is possible, do I need to do anything on either the A2 or the 705?

Thanks!

BTW, paid $649 + tax and a 3 year warranty for $30 at Circuit City. Not a bad price I think?Not too bad for a local price. But, there are a number of online dealers that have it for $629 or less with free shipping, and no sales tax of course.

Also, you know it comes with a 2 year factory warranty, right? So, that $50 was for one year add'l year. Just an FYI.

Finally got my 705!!

Been waiting on some money to come in for a while which I'd already allocated to buying the receiver. It came in today and I crossed the border after work to pick it up. If Prison Break wasn't going to be on in about 45 minutes, I'd be hooking it up right now. Still waiting on some cables as well so that I can connect everything properly, but we all know that I'm going to do the best I can in the meantime :D

BTW, paid $649 + tax and a 3 year warranty for $30 at Circuit City. Not a bad price I think?

Are you in Canada? I'm just assuming because you said you crossed the border and you bought it from Circuit City which is in the states. I would also like to get it from Circuit City because its a lot cheaper than paying $1000 CAD for it here. Did you have to pay any duty once you crossed the border back into Canada?

Well I bought a new DMI cable and still have the same issue. The 705 will not allow any sound through it until I unplug and reinsert the cable.

**UPDATE** It is all 3 HDMI inputs. Not just HDMI-1 that's having this issue. When I unplug and the reinsert the cable, I see a slight spark (power connecting) and then viola, the 705 will allow sound. I am very perplexed.

HobbyTalk, you're right, I cannot do a FW update. I am 445.

So, I am very confused and I cannot get Onkyo to respond to any of my emails. I am tempted to return the 705 and exchange it. Then, if it still does it, I will know for sure it's not the 205. :D

Any other suggestions??? I am wide open...


I would say it is a 622 problem as a number of people have reported various HDMI problems on the 622. I would call Dish and have them swap out your receiver since I know it does work with the 705.

Not too bad for a local price. But, there are a number of online dealers that have it for $629 or less with free shipping, and no sales tax of course.

Also, you know it comes with a 2 year factory warranty, right? So, that $50 was for one year add'l year. Just an FYI.

Was only $30, but I will do some research and see what's up. I wasn't aware it was a 2 year warranty, I was told 30 days. Already had a long day, when I was offered a 3 year warranty for 30 bucks it seemed decent.

Are you in Canada? I'm just assuming because you said you crossed the border and you bought it from Circuit City which is in the states. I would also like to get it from Circuit City because its a lot cheaper than paying $1000 CAD for it here. Did you have to pay any duty once you crossed the border back into Canada?

Yeah, I'm in BC, bought from Circuit City in Bellingham. I did not pay duty, I only paid 13% tax which worked out to $80 or so. Like the first poster I quoted, it was cheaper some places online, but it was much more convenient to pick it up. Some of the places I found with better prices would not ship to Canada.

Yeah, I'm in BC, bought from Circuit City in Bellingham. I did not pay duty, I only paid 13% tax which worked out to $80 or so. Like the first poster I quoted, it was cheaper some places online, but it was much more convenient to pick it up. Some of the places I found with better prices would not ship to Canada.

That's good to hear. I always thought that if you bought anyting in the US and brought it back to Canada you had to pay duty. Looks like i'll probably be getting mine at Circuit City.

I would say it is a 622 problem as a number of people have reported various HDMI problems on the 622. I would call Dish and have them swap out your receiver since I know it does work with the 705.

Well it is doing it on all 3 HDMI inputs with all of my devices. Xbox 360, Pioneer DVD and the 622. If I turn the receiver off for more than 30 mins to an hour, it seems to "reset" and then not play the sound. Once I disconnect and reconnect ANY of the HDMI cables, it's like the circuit is completed and the unit plays sound.

I've only had it a week and when it works, this baby works!

Well it is doing it on all 3 HDMI inputs with all of my devices. Xbox 360, Pioneer DVD and the 622. If I turn the receiver off for more than 30 mins to an hour, it seems to "reset" and then not play the sound. Once I disconnect and reconnect ANY of the HDMI cables, it's like the circuit is completed and the unit plays sound.

I've only had it a week and when it works, this baby works!
Hmm, that really does seem to implicate the receiver.

Someone was nice enough to offer me a coupon. However, I can't get their website to accept it. Either they corrected this so you can't combine with the current sale price or I'm doing it wrong. He gave me two numbers, one is 10 digits for use over the phone he said and one that is about 15 digits. Which number on the coupon should I use?

That's good to hear. I always thought that if you bought anyting in the US and brought it back to Canada you had to pay duty. Looks like i'll probably be getting mine at Circuit City.
They may have let it go. I'm not sure if the receiver was manufactured in the US or not. If it was there would be no duty.

Wow setup was easy! About 15 minutes now and I've got it online. I am pretty impressed :D

Hi all! After several years of reading I've finally registered and so this is one of my first posts. I've gone through many, many pages on this thread but have not been able to find an answer for a question I have (man! this is a huge thread like the A2 thread!) So here's the question:

I recently purchased the A2 and was considering purchasing the onkyo 705. My Mitsu TV only accepts component, no HDMI. Is it possible to connect the HDMI AND compononent out from the A2 to the 705 in order to get both the DolbyHD signal as well as maintain 1080i picture quality for my mitsu? I only want the HDMI to do the audio and let the component pass through. If this is possible, do I need to do anything on either the A2 or the 705?

Thanks!
Welcome to the forum. Yes I think you're good to go providing the A2 will output both concurrently which I think it does. In setup you will assign your component input(1,2 or 3) to say DVD and your HDMI input (1,2 or 3) to DVD. Turn HDMI Monitor off and Audio out to NO in set up. Thats it. If you find your component signal degraded just take it straight to the TV.

Well I bought a new DMI cable and still have the same issue. The 705 will not allow any sound through it until I unplug and reinsert the cable.

**UPDATE** It is all 3 HDMI inputs. Not just HDMI-1 that's having this issue. When I unplug and the reinsert the cable, I see a slight spark (power connecting) and then viola, the 705 will allow sound. I am very perplexed.

HobbyTalk, you're right, I cannot do a FW update. I am 445.

So, I am very confused and I cannot get Onkyo to respond to any of my emails. I am tempted to return the 705 and exchange it. Then, if it still does it, I will know for sure it's not the 205. :D

Any other suggestions??? I am wide open...

Certainly sounds like a handshake or possibly a cable issue.

Be sure in set up that Audio out is set to NO.

If you turn the 705 off then back on, does that help? Ditto with the Cable/Sat box? Since the source controls the handshake, in this case the cable/sat box, the trouble likely is there. Its possible the cab/sat box loses a signal momentarily and then doesn't re-establish the handshake as it should.

Don't expect much from Onkyo customer no service. They're managed by Michael Scott. I'd work with the cab/sat provider. Good luck.

I was asking about PS3 Firmware, not 705 firmware.
I know, "I" am asking about the 705 firmware

How do you find out what firmware version is on the 705? How would you go about upgrading it?

Press & hold display on the front of the AVR and Press standby, then release both. Quickly press tone+ to cycle through the firmware #s. You have to be quick, they only persist for a second or so.

Although there are ways to user update firmware, so far Onkyo is only doing it in service centers for models less than the 905. Do not expect to see feature improvement upgrades or even bug fixes. It will take something really major to get them to upgrade AVRs. If you are having a problem they would rather you return your individual unit then open the firmware upgrade can o worms.

Someone was nice enough to offer me a coupon. However, I can't get their website to accept it. Either they corrected this so you can't combine with the current sale price or I'm doing it wrong. He gave me two numbers, one is 10 digits for use over the phone he said and one that is about 15 digits. Which number on the coupon should I use?

Use the 10 digit one, I just tried a AAA 10% off coupon I have on an Onkyo TX-SR705 at CC and it worked fine.

OK setting up my new 705... have HDMI out from DVD, have an HDMI in on LCD set, BUT... I only have RCA video/audio out from comcast cable box. Here's my two part question: (1) if I send the analog video signal from cable box to 705 (then HDMI out to set) do I always have to have the reciever on?
(2) If I indeed hook this up this way, will there be ANY upconversion bennefit from even sending the cable signal thru the 705? thanks guys!

Hello again guys. Wow , this thread has been a daily read for me now for weeks.

I just want to thank you all for the invaluable information you all have contributed to this thread. It has convinced me 110% that the 705 is the correct decision for me.

With that said ... if any Canadians (or Americans) in here could PM me some safe and honest places online to purchase this unit online I would be so thankful. I live in the boonies , nowhere near the border so buying it online is my only option. I would love to be able to buy it inside of Canada from an online store if possible but will buy from the USA and get raped on duties and taxes if need be.

Thank you all in advance!

Just to add , this unit will be taking in audio/video from my PS3 , Motorola HD Sat Box & a PC through HDMI and sending that out to my 42 Inch ILO Plasma TV. (Yup , ILO , Walmart special .. lol)

OK setting up my new 705... have HDMI out from DVD, have an HDMI in on LCD set, BUT... I only have RCA video/audio out from comcast cable box. Here's my two part question: (1) if I send the analog video signal from cable box to 705 (then HDMI out to set) do I always have to have the reciever on?
(2) If I indeed hook this up this way, will there be ANY upconversion bennefit from even sending the cable signal thru the 705? thanks guys!

Welcome to the forum. 1st: Get a different cable box. It's worth it. You should be OK with what you're planning. The 705 will upconvert the signal to 720p max, analog to HMDI if this is what you want. Just be sure to bring in the connections to the same place, IE: Cable/sat on the back of the AVR and you're good to go. Also set Monitor out to YES in set up.

To answer your first question second, yes the AVR has to be on.

PS: Its been a long time but back in college I bought a Sony consumer line receiver was around 300-400 bucks if I recall. (5.1 surround only back then) That thing hissed like crazy. I hated the quality of it.

PPS: I am ashamed to admit it but I have long been a Sony fan boy. Typically not for the quality of their products but the name and the exterior design of there hardware. As I am gettin older I am not so much the Sony fanboy I once was.. but still I dropped plenty of coin on an XBR bravia lcd.. when I could have bought a bigger screen equally as good for waaaaaaaay less. I did it.. for the fanboy reasons :D So please don't think I am bad mouthing Sony... I just avoid there cheapy priced consumer grade stuff like the plague.. in my experience it performs poorly or breaks too easy.

Same here woots, i use to be a Sony fanboy also, I kind of still am since i love their Bravia 52" LCD but just way to expensive. I also love going into the Sony Style store on Madison Avenue and just hanging out in their mini theaters that they have set up. I had the Sony STR-DE835 for 6 years and it has DTS 5.1 which also sounded awesome and still does, but I just sold it to my friend and now he's loving it and I also had a Sony 60" rear projection 1080i tv which was fun to. However, now its Onkyo's time and time for Dolby TrueHD and DTSHD MA and so far im loving it, except for the lip-sync problems on TBS and TNT. I found out that since the 705 is HDMI 1.3 and my Pio 5070 is HDMI 1.2 and without lip-snyc feature it will never match up. Oh well i guess i just wont look at their lips when they talk on those channels. There seems to be a lot of handshaking problems with HDMI 1.3 and components with HDMI 1.1 or 1.2. So don't always blame the 705 for being faulty it just might be the display your using it with and/or one of your other components.

Certainly sounds like a handshake or possibly a cable issue.

Be sure in set up that Audio out is set to NO.

If you turn the 705 off then back on, does that help? Ditto with the Cable/Sat box? Since the source controls the handshake, in this case the cable/sat box, the trouble likely is there. Its possible the cab/sat box loses a signal momentarily and then doesn't re-establish the handshake as it should.

Don't expect much from Onkyo customer no service. They're managed by Michael Scott. I'd work with the cab/sat provider. Good luck.

If I turn the 705 off and then back on, there is no difference. Same goes for my Xbox 360 and DVD player which are all connected via HDMI. The only way I can get any sound is to literally disconnect and reconnect any of the HDMI cables and the they all work.

I have three different HDMI cable brands and they are all doing it. Think I will email support again and then if I cant' get it going return it. That option stinks because I really like this model.

I'm strating to wonder if this might be an HDMI cable issue. I'm using a couple cheap GE HDMI cables that I bought from Target. Is it possible that these cables are not 1.3 compatible, and/or does that matter? I don't have any problems with my SA 8300 DVR connected via HDMI to the Onkyo 705 and I'm using a different cable. I think it's a phillips cable.

Hey androp, I also don't have problems running my PS3 from the receiver to my plasma via HDMI 1.3. My firmware version on my PS3 is 1.93 and im using a basic gold plated HDMI cable i got from Monoprice for i think $15. What is your PS3 firmware verison ? I also run the SA 8300 DVR via HDMI to Onkyo.

If I turn the 705 off and then back on, there is no difference. Same goes for my Xbox 360 and DVD player which are all connected via HDMI. The only way I can get any sound is to literally disconnect and reconnect any of the HDMI cables and the they all work.

I have three different HDMI cable brands and they are all doing it. Think I will email support again and then if I cant' get it going return it. That option stinks because I really like this model.

Hey, I think you should call customer support or just exchange your 705 for another one. I also have 3 different brands of HDMI cable: 1 from Monoprice, 1 from Monster cable and one i got with my Xbox 360 Elite and I don't have any audio problems. So exchange it if its in the time period from when u purchased (i hope it is) and take it from there. You spent to much of your money to have this problem. I hope you purchased locally and didn't use mail order, that would suck.

Anyone know of a way to save your speaker level adjustment settings? I just think its annoying to have to reset the settings after turning the receiver back on again. Thanx

Anyone know of a way to save your speaker level adjustment settings? I just think its annoying to have to reset the settings after turning the receiver back on again. Thanx

When mine is working I too have the same issue.

Hey, I think you should call customer support or just exchange your 705 for another one. I also have 3 different brands of HDMI cable: 1 from Monoprice, 1 from Monster cable and one i got with my Xbox 360 Elite and I don't have any audio problems. So exchange it if its in the time period from when u purchased (i hope it is) and take it from there. You spent to much of your money to have this problem. I hope you purchased locally and didn't use mail order, that would suck.

I am gonna take it back to CC tonight hopefully and exchange it.

guess its just one of those things...it is what it is.

I was getting close to 30 days at CC so I decided that I would try and see if the SR805 was any better at the lip sync issue, as I cannot get it resolved, even after trying all the helpful suggestions - For me, I cannot see purchasing a receiver and having to live with that.

So, I picked up the 805 last night and set it up.

NO Lip Sync issues thus far from any source.

Very strange - makes me think there is hope for those exchanging their 705 for other units...

Well, thanks everyone, but if this keeps working (it has only been a few hours so I have to test it more), I'm going to stick with 805 and not test my luck with trying to get a 705 that works.

Another reason I might consider keeping the 805 over the 705: The speaker posts are all in ONE straight line at the bottom. For those that don't use banana clips, it saves a whole lot of time when threading 12 gauge wire :)

Keeping my fingers crossed...

Al

Big audio problem with standard DVDs on a PS3 connected via HDMI to my Onkyo 705. When I set my PS3 to PCM and I play a regular DVD such as Gladiator, I see the "PCM" display on my Onkyo 705. The problem is, the sound is horrible compared to when I set my PS3 to Bitstream and I see Dolby D 5.1 on my Onkyo display. I mean bitstream practically knocks me back running the DD or DTS track from Gladiator using bitstream. With PCM, I have to crank the volume way up on the 705 and the sound is still not good.

Any ideas on this one? I've read a ton of PCM vs. Bitstream threads and I thought I was supposed to leave the PS3 on PCM so when I play a blu-ray disk I'll get the benefit.

Thanks

Change the level in set up. Speaker level settings. It will stay set that way. Changing the speakers via the level on the remote goes away when you power off. Thats the way it is, it is.

Change the level in set up. Speaker level settings. It will stay set that way. Changing the speakers via the level on the remote goes away when you power off. Thats the way it is, it is.

You can, however, adjust using the trim buttons, then jump in and out of the level calibration in the setup menu and it will save the current settings.

Upconverting DVD Question:
I went to Best Buy to get an upconverting DVD player that does 1080p via HDMI, and noticed this receiver. The specs on it say it does 1080p upconverting from S-video (SD content) via HDMI. If that is true, then can I just keep my old 480i dvd player and use 705 to send 720p or 1080p to my TV, or is still better to buy a upconverting dvd player?

I was getting close to 30 days at CC so I decided that I would try and see if the SR805 was any better at the lip sync issue, as I cannot get it resolved, even after trying all the helpful suggestions - For me, I cannot see purchasing a receiver and having to live with that.

So, I picked up the 805 last night and set it up.

NO Lip Sync issues thus far from any source.
Al

I heard that the 805 has lip sync issues also. Thats what i read in the 805 thread. Its weird that you don't have lip sync issues also. Are your sure about this? try the TNT and TBS channels. Let me know if u can. Thanks.

I heard that the 805 has lip sync issues also. Thats what i read in the 805 thread. Its weird that you don't have lip sync issues also. Are your sure about this? try the TNT and TBS channels. Let me know if u can. Thanks.

Yes, I read the same. Actually I didn't have hopes of it being corrected, but figured it was worth a shot (even thought the 805 weighs a ton).

The 705 was doing it from almost every station, playing back DVR, other sources, etc...

The 805, I tried several stations and DVR Playback and PS3. I will try the others tonight and report back.

I am keeping fingers crossed...

Al

My 705 had newer firmware editions than others posted here. Clearly Onkyo is updating firmware for new stock (without providing such updates to existing owners). That could explain why a newer 805 doesn't have lip synch issues.

Upconverting DVD Question:
I went to Best Buy to get an upconverting DVD player that does 1080p via HDMI, and noticed this receiver. The specs on it say it does 1080p upconverting from S-video (SD content) via HDMI. If that is true, then can I just keep my old 480i dvd player and use 705 to send 720p or 1080p to my TV, or is still better to buy a upconverting dvd player?
I thought upconversion was just up to 720p, for this model. :confused:
I personally wouldn't buy this receiver soley for it's upconversion capability. It does many things very well, but upconversion isn't what it does best. ;) (IMO)

I did see this on Circuit City's webpage for the 705 (seems like a misprint -- it's speaking of "the DVD player", and the 705 doesn't have an internal DVD player):
1080p upconversion: When connected to an HDTV via HDMI connection, the DVD player digitally “up-converts” the resolution of standard DVDs to 1080p high definition for super-sharp images

My 705 had newer firmware editions than others posted here. Clearly Onkyo is updating firmware for new stock (without providing such updates to existing owners). That could explain why a newer 805 doesn't have lip synch issues.

What Firmware version do you have?

Same here woots, i use to be a Sony fanboy also, I kind of still am since i love their Bravia 52" LCD but just way to expensive. I also love going into the Sony Style store on Madison Avenue and just hanging out in their mini theaters that they have set up. I had the Sony STR-DE835 for 6 years and it has DTS 5.1 which also sounded awesome and still does, but I just sold it to my friend and now he's loving it and I also had a Sony 60" rear projection 1080i tv which was fun to. However, now its Onkyo's time and time for Dolby TrueHD and DTSHD MA and so far im loving it, except for the lip-sync problems on TBS and TNT. I found out that since the 705 is HDMI 1.3 and my Pio 5070 is HDMI 1.2 and without lip-snyc feature it will never match up. Oh well i guess i just wont look at their lips when they talk on those channels. There seems to be a lot of handshaking problems with HDMI 1.3 and components with HDMI 1.1 or 1.2. So don't always blame the 705 for being faulty it just might be the display your using it with and/or one of your other components.

Glad to know I am not alone I get guilty feeling sometimes sticking with one brand for illogical reasoning. I never been to the Sony store in NY sounds cool though... I probably wouldn't make it out the store alive.. I'd go broke and have a heart attack.. from sexy toy overload! :)

If sony had offered a competitive priced and feature filled option, as an alternative to the 705 receiver, I would have gone that route. Honestly, I have zero regrets going with this onkyo.. in many ways externally it "looks" cooler then many of the sony receivers just cause of the blue glowing dial. I also have heard good things about Onkyo over the years and this is the 1st I gave them a chance and I am glad I did.

I thought upconversion was just up to 720p, for this model. :confused:
I personally wouldn't buy this receiver soley for it's upconversion capability. It does many things very well, but upconversion isn't what it does best. ;) (IMO)
:

Sorry, if I confused you with my post. Basically, I am interested in watching upconverted dvds on my plasma using HDMI. So, I am trying to decide between the below:

1. Buy a upconverting dvd player AND 705 (will cost more)
OR
2. Keep my 480i (regular dvd player), and just buy a 705 (will cost less)

Bummer, looks like this receiver is having the same HDMI/PS3 handshake flickering issues as the 674 is having. I haven't seen any posts yet related to the 705 and flicker, but I cannot run my PS3 into this brand new receiver via HDMI as the flicker is unbearable and I am unable to watch video. Running directly through my Mitsu 65833 works perfectly with Optical audio from PS3, however, I too want the HD audio later on as well. Looks like I'll need to call Onkyo and get it serviced. I would have thought they would have addressed this with the 705 and newer receivers.

Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks
Update on HDMI sync/flicker issue. I've tried just about everything, including new HDMI cable, different HDMI inputs, disable noise reduction and OSD, blah blah blah and no luck. Still having flickering issues where the video goes in and out. It works about 50% of the time. I should note that it will work just fine when PS3 is set to 1080i, or when I plug PS3 directly into my Mitsu 65833. I'm pretty ticked off as I've had the reciever for 5 weeks now and probably won't be able to return it to Fry's since their policy is 30 days. On hold now for hours with Onkyo trying to get through to support.

Anyone else have any suggestions?

Thanks

What is it with this issue? I can't correct it at all.

All my sources have audio lagging even when the a/v sync is set to 0ms.

I've even tried the higher audio delays, since this was reported to have worked for some people (i.e. -200ms or higher).
I went through the entire range at -5ms increments (0 to -250ms)...no luck.

0ms is the best setting AND IT'S STILL OFF!!!!!! I even tried the speaker distance trick, and it didn't work!!!!!

What are the chances of a firmware update being released SOON to address this problem?

It's embarassing to have spent this much money on a receiver for it to look like crap with the lip sync!

What is it with this issue? I can't correct it at all.

All my sources have audio lagging even when the a/v sync is set to 0ms.

I've even tried the higher audio delays, since this was reported to have worked for some people (i.e. -200ms or higher).
I went through the entire range at -5ms increments (0 to -250ms)...no luck.

0ms is the best setting AND IT'S STILL OFF!!!!!! I even tried the speaker distance trick, and it didn't work!!!!!

What are the chances of a firmware update being released SOON to address this problem?

It's embarassing to have spent this much money on a receiver for it to look like crap with the lip sync!

If you are calibrating your sync with a source that is known for lag, you will always stay off on that source. For example TNT HD is lip sync lag central.. its not our gear its the channel.. if you try to voice sync for that channel you will never get it perfect and worse yet all your other channels look even worse. Try to sync for a channel that never had lag before you owned the receiver (plug the hdmi directly to the tv and bypass the receiver to see which channel doesn't lag) . Once you realize you got 1-2 channels that are lagged (at the tv station) and not at your house you start to realize you can tweak lip sync to near perfect.

My blu ray movies and x360 games no longer lag for me anymore... its just those couple annoying HD channels. Mrgribbles posted a link a while back that showed TNT admitting to the TNT HD lag.. and they were being cheap and didn't want to upgrade their equipment to fix it. Once HD is mainstream and not just for early adopters hopefully these tv studios will get their act together and buy the gear they need instead of pushing it further down the fiscal year.

(just a side note: 0ms is rarely an usable setting... most people its like 30-80ms range)

I do agree Onkyo still could use a firmware update that allowed a great range then just 0-250 or whatever....would be nice to see -1000 to +1000... plus or minus a 1 full second would do the trick. The speaker distance trick only works when you need to go under 0ms. You need to set it for 0ms and then increase speaker distance in increments.

If you are calibrating your sync with a source that is known for lag, you will always stay off on that source. For example TNT HD is lip sync lag central.. its not our gear its the channel.. if you try to voice sync for that channel you will never get it perfect and worse yet all your other channels look even worse. Try to sync for a channel that never had lag before you owned the receiver (plug the hdmi directly to the tv and bypass the receiver to see which channel doesn't lag) . Once you realize you got 1-2 channels that are lagged (at the tv station) and not at your house you start to realize you can tweak lip sync to near perfect.

My blu ray movies and x360 games no longer lag for me anymore... its just those couple annoying HD channels. Mrgribbles posted a link a while back that showed TNT admitting to the TNT HD lag.. and they were being cheap and didn't want to upgrade their equipment to fix it. Once HD is mainstream and not just for early adopters hopefully these tv studios will get their act together and buy the gear they need instead of pushing it further down the fiscal year.

(just a side note: 0ms is rarely an usable setting... most people its like 30-80ms range)

Everything lags though, not just TV. Admittedly, some TV stations are much worse than others, but even my movies played on my HTPC lag. I'll try it some more, but it's really PISSING ME OFF!!!!

Everything lags though, not just TV. Admittedly, some TV stations are much worse than others, but even my movies played on my HTPC lag. I'll try it some more, but it's really PISSING ME OFF!!!!

You are being patient right? I know 1st time I did it I was just pissed like you and even though I tried the whole range i wasn't being critical of what I was looking at. It requires a great deal of concentration and patience.. after all you are calibrating things down to the thousandths of a second. You can easily blow past the sweet spot in anger and start going + or - of that direction very easily.

Try A-B looping with a close up of someones face saying a full sentence or paragraph of dialog, so you can read their lips.

With games, find a game that makes a noise when you press a button. Just tweak the sync based on the delay of when your press to when you hear it.

Also keep in mind it never gets "perfect" its always "near perfect", just get it close enough people would have to strain to realize there is a lip sync lag at all. First week I owned this receiver before I tweaked my lag good I had a friend over who called me out on the lip sync lag almost immediately. After I got serious about tweaking I have had them back and they didn't see the lag anymore. I can still see the tiny delay cause I am looking for it harshly.. but hell man its close. I just took a step back from in last couple weeks and let it slide, doesn't bother me anymore.

I think if I dropped 1500 bucks on this receiver I would be pissed right now even still. I can live with minor bugs for 550 bucks for what I get out of it. Bugs and qwerks come with the territory of expensive toys man.. i dont thing I could buy anything at any price range even for 1,000,000+ bucks that I couldn't find faults with.

I have noticed many of us are all critical kind of people and looking for perfection for our money (I am included). I dropped 4300 bucks on my LCD Tv last year man . and 1st thing I noticed was it had an uneven backlighting on dark scenes.. then I found out all the TV's in that series had mura problems. Then I went into immediate regrets, especially for that much money. I then started doing homework on all the other lcd's I thought would proper alternatives. All of them exhibited mura of some degree some of them 10 times worse then what I got. I came to realize Mura is an issue with ALL large lcd's the variance in the mura is a gamble of luck and randomness. Even a year later Sony came out with a new series of LCD's like the one I got.. people who just bought them still have the same mura... it just comes with the territory man. Technology can leave a lot to be desired if you judge it for perfection. Once I tweaked my tv backlighting I never notice that mura issue anymore. Once i tweaked my lip sync lag I never notice it anymore either. It takes a combination of education, execution and toleration. (Ya i know that rhymed.. lol you know what I mean though.)

Good Luck... If its still something that your cant tolerate after you spent time making the lag work best you can. Return it before your 30 days are up... worse thing you can do is keep it and have regrets forever.

Yea its pretty kool, they got all the new gadget and you can even lounge and play PS3 and order your Starbucks coffee. Its a good way to spend a rainy Sunday afternoon. Yea to bad Sony does not have a receiver with the same exact features and a competitive price as Onkyo. Again, I'm not knocking the 705 in anyway, I'm happy with it plus it was time for a change an could not afford the Pioneer Elite 94 receiver. lol

Sorry, if I confused you with my post. Basically, I am interested in watching upconverted dvds on my plasma using HDMI. So, I am trying to decide between the below:

1. Buy a upconverting dvd player AND 705 (will cost more)
OR
2. Keep my 480i (regular dvd player), and just buy a 705 (will cost less)
Depends upon whether you want upconversion to 1080 or not.

What Firmware version do you have?
The first line: Main1.02/07712B
I wrote down the other lines...but didn't keep it. However I remember the HDMI version was higher than another one posted in this thread. If I recall correctly, theirs was HDMI1.00, and mine was HDMI1.02.

anyone have the owners manual

I would think all of the owners here have one. And, non-owners can just download the PDF from the Onkyo website. http://63.148.251.135/redirect_service.cfm?type=own_manuals&file=SN_29344476_TX-SR705_En_0604.pdf

I have an issue. DTC6416 routed through ONKYO 705 via HDMI passes HD channels to Sharp 52 ...U92 but does not to pass/display lower channels/non HD channels. I get sound on from all channels.
Calbe directly to TV displays all pictures and sound.
Help! Thanks, Gary

I've studied the user manuals for both the 705 and the 805 and here are the advantages of the 805 over the 705 that I have noticed:

...

The ability to manually select either the analog or digital signal connected to the same input.

...

Damn I wish the 705 had this. I have a DVD player that is also my SACD player (Samsung DVD-HD841), and I have to go into the settings to switch between the analog and digital audio output.

I could buy a PS3 I suppose...

Hey Trans.. did you ever go in and setup your listening modes for each of your inputs? Try taking the time (if you didnt already) to select something other then "last use" or pure audio for all the input types on the list.. I do PLIIx Movie for all of mine and True HD and DTS HD for those special codecs. Remember to do this for each input source on the receiver... dvd, game, cable, etc... each stores separate listening mode data.

I used to get LOTS of pops and clicks and noises on my receiver when I 1st bought it... until I finally spent the time to setup all my listening modes. After that everything was gravy :)


Hey Woots,

I'm curious why you chose ProLogic IIx (PLIIx) over other choices such as Neural THX, Neo-Cinema, etc? Do you use this setting for your CDs also?

I recently went thru the pre-sets and have been getting some HDMI clicking ever since, not sure if exactly related to that or not.

Setup is TiVO HD as cable box to Onk 705 HDMI #1, Denon 1940CI DVD/CD to Onk 705 HDMI#2, Onk 705 HDMI out to Samsung 4671 HDMI in #1.

TIA,
Mark

Was it in this thread I saw a picture of a fan mounted on top of the 705 that sucked air out and had built in channels to send it to the back? Mind you, this wasn't just a normal cpu case fan, but a modified setup; I think it was black/red.

Thanks.

How do we find out the firmware version?

assuming the audio source is analog, will zone 2 work in direct and/or pure audio mode(s)

thanks, i've pulled the trigger but don't yet have a display which I understand is needed in order to enable zone 2 :(

Was it in this thread I saw a picture of a fan mounted on top of the 705 that sucked air out and had built in channels to send it to the back? Mind you, this wasn't just a normal cpu case fan, but a modified setup; I think it was black/red.

Thanks.

yes it was, i think it was in the high 70's

BTW nice theater, you should paint the ceiling black or most of it, like a boxed out black square.

I just set up my new 705 and everything is running via HDMI, except my trusty old xbox (the original) which I use to stream video to my Mitsu WD-65732. I have that set up using componant, but when I let the 705 upconvert to HDMI out, there is quite a noticible shake (back and forth) of the picture, at the xbox menu and playing games. Now, if I watch a movie, there is no shake, and when I switch to componant passthru, there is no shake at all. Any suggestions/ideas...

THanks,

John

Hey Woots,

I'm curious why you chose ProLogic IIx (PLIIx) over other choices such as Neural THX, Neo-Cinema, etc? Do you use this setting for your CDs also?

I recently went thru the pre-sets and have been getting some HDMI clicking ever since, not sure if exactly related to that or not.

Setup is TiVO HD as cable box to Onk 705 HDMI #1, Denon 1940CI DVD/CD to Onk 705 HDMI#2, Onk 705 HDMI out to Samsung 4671 HDMI in #1.

TIA,
Mark

I have tried 7.1 Neural a lot to see how I like it.. and I dont at all.. its kinda weird even in video games which it was designed for. I do like Dolby Digital Ex for video games. I have never tried DTS HD MA (i would love to hear it) I am curious how it sounds if its better then others. I guess I have heard predecoded True HD over PCM and I think it sounds great. I prefer all channel stereo for normal non high def music hands down.. it fills my room and makes things sound loud and clear from all directions (overall volume is what I look for out of music.. the left and right separation still stays present too)

However, after tried all the 7.1 flavored DSPs on this receiver PLIIx sounds the best overall in my ears for "movies" at least with my setup. I was very DSP switch happy 1st 2 weeks of owning this unit and I now have settled into liking certain DSPs for some things. Id say PLIIx is my favorite overall (but just for movies)

I prefer all channel stereo for normal non high def music hands down.. it fills my room and makes things sound loud and clear from all directions (overall volume is what I look for out of music.. the left and right separation still stays present too)


Have you compared stereo to pure audio? pa is much better.

How do we find out the firmware version?

It would be nice if the thread owner (is he even around here anymore?) would update the first post with information like this, which is customary for "official owners threads". Perhaps someone else who's an expert on these units (woots? mrgribbles?) can start amassing a FAQ post and we can just point to that.

It would be nice if the thread owner (is he even around here anymore?) would update the first post with information like this, which is customary for "official owners threads". Perhaps someone else who's an expert on these units (woots? mrgribbles?) can start amassing a FAQ post and we can just point to that.

+1;)

It would be nice if the thread owner (is he even around here anymore?) would update the first post with information like this, which is customary for "official owners threads". Perhaps someone else who's an expert on these units (woots? mrgribbles?) can start amassing a FAQ post and we can just point to that.


Here's a start: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11238590&postcount=2490

What is it with this issue? I can't correct it at all.

What are the chances of a firmware update being released SOON to address this problem?

It's embarassing to have spent this much money on a receiver for it to look like crap with the lip sync!

I feel your PAIN.

What cable service do you have? and what tv are you using and how old is it?

Also i don't think it matters if theres going to be a firmware update since the 705 doesn't have a Ethernet connection to upgrade. What we have to do send it into a service center everytime.

Was it in this thread I saw a picture of a fan mounted on top of the 705 that sucked air out and had built in channels to send it to the back? Mind you, this wasn't just a normal cpu case fan, but a modified setup; I think it was black/red.

Thanks.


I have this cooler, here is the the link:

BUYEXTRAS.COM (http://www.buyextras.com/evavcoblfanf.html)

Works great!

Everything lags though, not just TV. Admittedly, some TV stations are much worse than others, but even my movies played on my HTPC lag. I'll try it some more, but it's really PISSING ME OFF!!!!

Sounds like you have a big handshaking problem. You should recheck or rewire your connections and/or HDMI cable(s), maybe upgrade to newer HDMI cables especially if you have old cables and a 1080p tv. The new HDMI 1.3 connections on the 705 might be making it worse and maybe not since you have lagging on ur HTPC. Wont hurt to try especially since ur 5 weeks into your purchase and cant return it. Try what woots recommended, connect directly to the tv from STB and see if u get lagging like that then take it for there. Worse come to worse out it up for sale on Ebay or Craigslist and get something different. I have lip sync problems on TNT and TBS and haven't noticed it on other channels yet thank god. Good luck.

How do we find out the firmware version?


Power On the 705.
Press and hold the Display Button.
Press the Standby/On Button.
Release both buttons.

The Main Version Number will be displayed (won't stay displayed long).

Quickly press the - or + buttons (they are to the right of the Tone Button) to scroll through the other versions numbers.


My Version Numbers:

Main1.00/07615B
DSPS8051: 07601A
DSPS8052: 07518A
DSPS8053: 07518A
HDMI1.00/07517A
VD:3.58/07609A


If your versions are different, please post them.


I see Transcend's Main version number is: Main1.02/07712B

Where and when did you purchase yours Transcend?


.S

Here's a start: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/11238590-post2490.html

FYI: The link to that page says "page not found"

Do any of you have a 705 box that looks like this (sticker for THX, DTS-HD and TrueHD on the box)?

Do any of you have a 705 box that looks like this (sticker for THX, DTS-HD and TrueHD on the box)?

omg wtf is that?, I guess they added all the extra HD features after it was manufactured :confused::rolleyes:

However, i didn't notice it on my box or the box I had b4. So 2 boxes and no sticker. No is my answer.

omg wtf is that?, I guess they added all the extra HD features after it was manufactured :confused::rolleyes:

However, i didn't notice it on my box or the box I had b4. So 2 boxes and no sticker. No is my answer.

Damn it! I got the Malaysian Special!

LOL :confused:

Damn it! I got the Malaysian Special!

LOL :confused:You, and every other 705 owner. :D

Damn it! I got the Malaysian Special!

LOL :confused:

lol wow, yea i got to admit when i brought the box home and as I was admiring my big purchase as I always do b4 cracking it open with a big smile, all of a sudden I read the words "Made in Malaysia" I couldn't help but to say Malaysia a few more times with question marks in my head saying how the hell they make this in Malaysia, isn't this a 3rd World Country more or less, they couldn't even make is in Japan, damnnn. I heard the 805 is make in Japan or China. :confused:

Actually, hi-tech components and devices have been made in Malaysia for years. Personally, I prefer made-in-Malaysia over made-in-China, if ever so slightly. And, made-in-Korea over either. (I avoid Chinese-made products whenever I can, if I have a choice.)

However, I always prefer made-in-Japan over any and all of those, for obvious reasons.

My father is looking to upgrade his current receiver.

current set up

denon 2803
def tech 7002
def tech clm 2500
def tech bpx

He wants hdmi switching and likes the idea of auddsey. Would it be much of an upgrade sound wise to get a 705 or should he be looking at the 805? We are Price sensative there are some deals going on and looks to be roughly a $350.00 price differnece.

I feel your PAIN.

What cable service do you have? and what tv are you using and how old is it?

Also i don't think it matters if theres going to be a firmware update since the 705 doesn't have a Ethernet connection to upgrade. What we have to do send it into a service center everytime.

Would the CD firmware update process from the 605 work on the 705?
that'd be an alternative to taking it to a service center.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=854964&page=82
see post 2437

Would the CD firmware update process from the 605 work on the 705?
that'd be an alternative to taking it to a service center.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=854964&page=82
see post 2437

More than likely. If you can find an update CD, I'll try it. I haven't bricked a component in a long time.

My Version Numbers:

Main.00/07615B
DSPS8051: 07601A
DSPS8052: 07518A
DSPS8053: 07518A
HDMI1.00/07517A
VD:3.58/07609A


My Version Numbers:

Main 1.01/07618A
DSPS8051:07601A
DSPS8052: 07518A
DSPS8053: 07518A
HDMI1.00/07517A
VD:3.58/07609A

Thats mine.

I see Transcend's Main version number is: Main1.02/07712B

Where and when did you purchase yours Transcend?


.S
Amazon.com, 10/3.

Do any of you have a 705 box that looks like this (sticker for THX, DTS-HD and TrueHD on the box)?


My 705, which just arrived today, doesn't have a sticker, but the labels are printed on like the others.

If I turn the 705 off and then back on, there is no difference. Same goes for my Xbox 360 and DVD player which are all connected via HDMI. The only way I can get any sound is to literally disconnect and reconnect any of the HDMI cables and the they all work.

I have three different HDMI cable brands and they are all doing it. Think I will email support again and then if I cant' get it going return it. That option stinks because I really like this model.

Ok, it appears to be my Dishnetwork 622. *&%%#%$&! If I connect it via comp. cables and a toslink for sound, it works fine! BUT, now my resolution is not so hot. I cannot get the resolution above 1280X (something). I am not at home, in my car doing this from memory. Sorry for the lack of info.

So, any suggestions? I am running a Dishnetwork DVR 622, XBOX 360, Upscaling(converting) DVD, PS3. All of which should be HDMI, but I can't get the Sat. to work with HDMI just comp. Which looks crappy.

:D HELP!!! :D

If I turn the 705 off and then back on, there is no difference. Same goes for my Xbox 360 and DVD player which are all connected via HDMI. The only way I can get any sound is to literally disconnect and reconnect any of the HDMI cables and the they all work.

I have three different HDMI cable brands and they are all doing it. Think I will email support again and then if I cant' get it going return it. That option stinks because I really like this model.

Ok, it appears to be my Dishnetwork 622. *&%%#%$&! If I connect it via comp. cables and a toslink for sound, it works fine! BUT, now my resolution is not so hot. I cannot get the resolution above 1280X (something). I am not at home, in my car doing this from memory. Sorry for the lack of info.

So, any suggestions? I am running a Dishnetwork DVR 622, XBOX 360, Upscaling(converting) DVD, PS3. All of which should be HDMI, but I can't get the Sat. to work with HDMI just comp. Which looks crappy.

:D HELP!!! :D

Do any of you have a 705 box that looks like this (sticker for THX, DTS-HD and TrueHD on the box)?

Freaky sticker... I cant remember if my box had that or not.. once I got my 130 bucks price match back from CC I threw out the box. I got all the logos on my receiver though.

Maybe DTS or Dolby updated the logo designs in some way and were required to update their packaging... so Onkyo went the cheap route and bought stickers since they already had tons of boxes pre made? (just a guess) Or perhaps ... the order of precedence was changed around (one logo company put in front of the other)... due to some kinda under the table kinda thing.

Other than a better DAC (how much better?) and a little more juice, what am I missing if I purchase the 705 over the more recent Onkyo releases such as the 805, 875, or 905?

Power On the 705.
Press and hold the Display Button.
Press the Standby/On Button.
Release both buttons.

The Main Version Number will be displayed (won't stay displayed long).

Quickly press the - or + buttons (they are to the right of the Tone Button) to scroll through the other versions numbers.


My Version Numbers:

Main.00/07615B
DSPS8051: 07601A
DSPS8052: 07518A
DSPS8053: 07518A
HDMI1.00/07517A
VD:3.58/07609A


If your versions are different, please post them.


I see Transcend's Main version number is: Main1.02/07712B

Where and when did you purchase yours Transcend?


.S

Just checked mine, I also have

1.02 07712B
DSOS 8051:07601A
DSOS 8052:07518A
DSOS 8053:07518A
HDMI 1.00/07517A
VD 3.58/07609A

So different from yours, mine is Canadian, first batch to reach my Visions in Edmonton about a month ago now.

Other than a better DAC (how much better?) and a little more juice, what am I missing if I purchase the 705 over the more recent Onkyo releases such as the 805, 875, or 905?

Well actually, technically, the 705 is the "newest" Onkyo release. But with the 875/905 you get the REON to upscale everything to 1080p (although user reports aren't anywhere as stellar as the implementation in the XA2). I think you get one more HDMI in the 805 and up (so 4 ins). They can apply processing to DSD sources (705 can't do jack to them). Video processing is identical (except the REON). I'm not sure what else?? I know the 905 can do a lot more (3rooms? maybe?) but the 805 and 875 don't add tons of stuff, nothing I wanted when I looked at them other than the REON in the 875.

I called Onkyo tech support, but I just want to double check something. I have a PC that has a DVI out. I'm going to get a DVI to HDMI adaptor to hook the PC to the sr705. Will 1024x768 PC resolution pass throught the HDMI input just fine and come out the same resolution?

I've read on the tread the the 705 will upconvert a standard signal (s-video) to 720P, but the features sheet and the tech guy said the chip will deinterlace to 480P. Do you know which is correct?

I have an Onkyo sr702 now and I'm really looking forward to the HDMI upgrade.
thanx
jerr

rrj, the claim (and reality) for the 605/705/805 is that:
1. They will "up-convert" analog video IN to HDMI OUT. In fact, they will also convert composite and s-video to component OUT.
2. They will "up-scale" analog video to a maximum 720p for component OUT or HDMI OUT. There never has been a claim that they would scale to 1080i or 1080p. In fact, they will "down-convert" 1080i to 720p.
3. They will "pass-through" video untouched if the OUT matches the IN... e.g., HDMI IN = HDMI OUT, s-video IN = s-video OUT.

Ok, I may be outta luck! But one last shot before this incredible sounding machine goes back.

I've got four items:

-DVR622
-Xbox360
-UP Dvd
-PS3

All of which use HDMI. The satellite can use Comp Cables but then the signal is converted down to 720P from 1080I and looks like %$&! Is there anyway to make this work with this receiver or am I just outta luck?

Thanks!

I've got four items:All of which use HDMI.
Well, see there was one of my problems...not now, but if I intended this new receiver to be "future proof", I knew I would eventually run into that problem.

You can buy an extra HDMI switchbox...but I decided to pay the extra $$ and buy a receiver with 4 HDMI ports (and a few other things ;)).

P.S. my cable TV over component didn't look so bad after setting the box (not receiver) picture resolution to 720p.

I have a question for someone?

When im watching a BD for the PS3 and the audio options are Dolby Digital ES 6.1 or Dolby Digital EX 5.1 which one is better to use thru the 705 with a 7.1 surround sound system???

Well actually, technically, the 705 is the "newest" Onkyo release. But with the 875/905 you get the REON to upscale everything to 1080p (although user reports aren't anywhere as stellar as the implementation in the XA2). I think you get one more HDMI in the 805 and up (so 4 ins). They can apply processing to DSD sources (705 can't do jack to them). Video processing is identical (except the REON). I'm not sure what else?? I know the 905 can do a lot more (3rooms? maybe?) but the 805 and 875 don't add tons of stuff, nothing I wanted when I looked at them other than the REON in the 875.

Thanks for the help.

Exactly what kind of processing on DSD sources are you saying the other models can perform that the 705 can not?

Do any of you have a 705 box that looks like this (sticker for THX, DTS-HD and TrueHD on the box)?

mine does not have it.... i guess there is nothin to be alarmed of... they may be rectifyin a priting error on the box......(just a thought)

My Version Numbers:

Main 1.01/07618A
DSPS8051:07601A
DSPS8052: 07518A
DSPS8053: 07518A
HDMI1.00/07517A
VD:3.58/07609A

Thats mine.

My Version Numbers are same as yours:

Main 1.01/07618A
DSPS8051:07601A
DSPS8052: 07518A
DSPS8053: 07518A
HDMI1.00/07517A
VD:3.58/07609A

doing that was a lil annoying. Im also running at 123-125 degrees on for approx. 6 hours.

My version numbers

Main: 1.02/07712B
DSPS 8051: 07601A
DSPS 8052: 07518A
DSPS 8053: 07518A
HDMI: 1.01/07706A
VD: 3.62/07717A

Purchased from Hong Kong to Australia in September 2007

Ok now that we all posted our firmware versions now what??? lol

hello, i have an xbox 360 (the regular not the premium). Question is does the 705 upscales or upconverts the component to hdmi at 1080p?

I know that the 605 doesn't do this so please enlighten me if the 705 does.

Thanks

hello, i have an xbox 360 (the regular not the premium). Question is does the 705 upscales or upconverts the component to hdmi at 1080p?

I know that the 605 doesn't do this so please enlighten me if the 705 does.

ThanksOnly the 875 and 905 models upscale to 1080P with the REON chip in them

The 605,705 and 805 all have the same scaling, to 480P (and 720P via a hidden menu option, but this has problems with widescreen)

Ok, I may be outta luck! But one last shot before this incredible sounding machine goes back.

I've got four items:

-DVR622
-Xbox360
-UP Dvd
-PS3

All of which use HDMI. The satellite can use Comp Cables but then the signal is converted down to 720P from 1080I and looks like %$&! Is there anyway to make this work with this receiver or am I just outta luck?

Thanks!

You can add an HDMI switcher between your sources and the receiver. That way two different HDM/DVD sources could be attached to the Onkyo's DVD input, or any other combination you choose could be set up.:D

Only the 875 and 905 models upscale to 1080P with the REON chip in them

The 605,705 and 805 all have the same scaling, to 480P (and 720P via a hidden menu option, but this has problems with widescreen)

a n00b question that might have been already answered: how does it work, exactly? for example, if say, cable box outputs in 1080i to component, will the signal be downscaled to 480p/720p when processed by the receiver and outputed through hdmi?

My Version Numbers are same as yours:

Main 1.01/07618A
DSPS8051:07601A
DSPS8052: 07518A
DSPS8053: 07518A
HDMI1.00/07517A
VD:3.58/07609A

doing that was a lil annoying. Im also running at 123-125 degrees on for approx. 6 hours.

My firmware versions are identica.l to Uptown and woots'

bought mine locally (in australia) late august

Ok now that we all posted our firmware versions now what??? lol

:confused:
lol... ya its nice to see the point spread! Now we can make bets whos will burn out 1st!... I'm joking!:eek:

Yes getting those firmware numbers are was a pain in the %#@! They kept hiding every time i wrote down 5 characters :D

PS: Uptown .. get a fan bro.. you are runnin way to hot .. you could drop that temp by about 20 degrees with a fan. (I dropped 20 degrees on mine even after 6-10 hours of playing I stay around 98-100)

Anyway.. Something i am curious about is that the people who have hissing problems all share the same firmware? Does anyone know of a link to the latest manufacturers firmware version or how to obtain a download or CD of it?

:confused:
lol... ya its nice to see the point spread! Now we can make bets whos will burn out 1st!... I'm joking!:eek:

Yes getting those firmware numbers are was a pain in the %#@! They kept hiding every time i wrote down 5 characters :D

PS: Uptown .. get a fan bro.. you are runnin way to hot .. you could drop that temp by about 20 degrees with a fan. (I dropped 20 degrees on mine even after 6-10 hours of playing I stay around 98-100)

Anyway.. Something i am curious about is that the people who have hissing problems all share the same firmware? Does anyone know of a link to the latest manufacturers firmware version or how to obtain a download or CD of it?

Answered my own question here:
http://www.onkyousa.com/download/firmware.cfm

This appears to be the firmware page for Onkyo receivers... and we are not on that lil list.. none of the *05 series is yet.

Answered my own question here:
http://www.onkyousa.com/download/firmware.cfm

This appears to be the firmware page for Onkyo receivers... and we are not on that lil list.. none of the *05 series is yet.

They only allow firmware updates for the models that have Inet connectivity. The only '5 that can do this is the 905. I don't think we'll ever see a user installed update for our units.

They only allow firmware updates for the models that have Inet connectivity. The only '5 that can do this is the 905. I don't think we'll ever see a user installed update for our units.

:mad:

a n00b question that might have been already answered: how does it work, exactly? for example, if say, cable box outputs in 1080i to component, will the signal be downscaled to 480p/720p when processed by the receiver and outputed through hdmi?


I just got my Onkyo tx-sr705. I have my Motorola cable box output 1080i by component into the receiver then it goes to my TV by HDMI. The info on my TV says that it is 720P.

Today, I will try to take the signal from the receiver out to the TV by component and see if it is left at 1080i.

Before I got the 705 I hooked the HDTV up directly to the cable box by component and got 1080i. Would do that again if I have to but like the convenience on one button switching to TV by my receiver. I will still have to switch the input source on my HDTv so I guess nothing will be gained. Might as well hook directly. Would lose my ON screen display though

Lonesomedave

The 705 will only output 720p from HDMI, when converting from Component, even if it is 1080i at component.

My Version Numbers are same as yours:

Main 1.01/07618A
DSPS8051:07601A
DSPS8052: 07518A
DSPS8053: 07518A
HDMI1.00/07517A
VD:3.58/07609A

doing that was a lil annoying. Im also running at 123-125 degrees on for approx. 6 hours.

I figured I'd post my version numbers since they seem to indicate an evolutionary trend.

Main 1.02/07712B
DSPS8051:07727A
DSPS8052:07727A
DSPS8053:07727A
HDMI1.01/07706A
VD:3.58/07609A

And of course, this may not be evolutionary at all, but a production run date that is stamped on the chips. Does anyone remember who produces them - (TI or Sigma)? Someone, I believe posted this info a few thousand posts ago and I can't remember which forum, whether it was this one, or the 605 or 805.
I suspect that the VD (video display chip?) will have a similar number - the 3.58 part, depending on your country or area - our Aussie friend had a different number and then the revision number or production date. As we know, the 605 only has the one DSP chip, while the 805 setup may parallel our 705s.
I wonder whether most important chip may be the HDMI with its revisions, because it is so important to the whole handshaking process.

As far as the heat issue goes, I've found that my 705 runs a little hotter than the Sony STR-DE995 that it replaced - this is by touch only. So far, the 705 has been flawless - knock on wood!:)

This saga is getting stranger and stranger! When I connect my DVR622, Xbox 360, and DVD (all HDMI) and then turn on the receiver, the HDMI light flashes fort about 30-60 seconds and the the receiver starts playing audio.

Anyone else seen/heard of this? If so, is it normal?

Thanks!

Its more than likely a date 07712 = 7/12/07. Firmware or just a batch# ??

I read that the Onks use the TI Aureus chip. I don't have the # close to hand.

:confused:
lol... ya its nice to see the point spread! Now we can make bets whos will burn out 1st!... I'm joking!:eek:

Yes getting those firmware numbers are was a pain in the %#@! They kept hiding every time i wrote down 5 characters :D

PS: Uptown .. get a fan bro.. you are runnin way to hot .. you could drop that temp by about 20 degrees with a fan. (I dropped 20 degrees on mine even after 6-10 hours of playing I stay around 98-100)


I think its going to be mine since im running 125 degrees every night, lol. No but thanks for your concern, i plan on getting that fan in the next week, the one that blows out air from the sides since i only have about 1.5" space on top of receiver, i hope its a quiet fan. I cant imagine what it would be like without those 2 fans on the bottom of the 705. I would be cooking dinner on there and save money on gas. lol. Woots do u got a fan on yours? or anyone else with a fan on the 705 can post pics thanks.

This saga is getting stranger and stranger! When I connect my DVR622, Xbox 360, and DVD (all HDMI) and then turn on the receiver, the HDMI light flashes fort about 30-60 seconds and the the receiver starts playing audio.

Anyone else seen/heard of this? If so, is it normal?

Thanks!

Oriontool - Have you tried disconnecting your stuff one input at a time to see if you could find the offender. I don't have an Xbox or PS3, but it seems to me that the game consoles seem to produce the most problems, followed by the STB. Did your unit always do this or is it a recent development?

They only allow firmware updates for the models that have Inet connectivity. The only '5 that can do this is the 905. I don't think we'll ever see a user installed update for our units.

thats bull#%$, why do we have to spend $1500.00 to have a Ethernet connection in our receivers. :mad::(:mad:

Its more than likely a date 07712 = 7/12/07. Firmware or just a batch# ??

I read that the Onks use the TI Aureus chip. I don't have the # close to hand.

mrgribbles - That's what I thought too. It seems logical that it is a date stamp, but it would be nice to know if revisions are part of that date stamp. It would be even nicer if a TI engineer showed up on the forum with a white paper (in pdf form) on the internal revisions. Well, back to reality! Thanks for the info!

This saga is getting stranger and stranger! When I connect my DVR622, Xbox 360, and DVD (all HDMI) and then turn on the receiver, the HDMI light flashes fort about 30-60 seconds and the the receiver starts playing audio.

Anyone else seen/heard of this? If so, is it normal?

Thanks!

I can check mine for you when i get home form work. Yes, im at work and on AVS Forum, so i'm hardly working. :D

thats bull#%$, why do we have to spend $1500.00 to have a Ethernet connection in our receivers. :mad::(:mad:

Uptown - I agree totally with you. There should be a way to reprogram the chips. But this would be assuming that all the chips are programmable like a computer bios chip.

mrgribbles - Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but wasn't there a story on the 605 forums about a CD-Rom update for the 605 (German version)? I know that the later problem with the NA version of the 605 could only be remedied by returning it to Onkyo for service. I wonder if some of the chips are programmable while others are not. It would be nice if Onkyo trusted its customers to do an update if it is possible, rather than have to return it to them. Maybe they think we'll "brick" the receiver if the owners try it themselves.

Ok now that we all posted our firmware versions now what??? lol

Since I have 1.00, I am thinking of exchanging mine close to the 30 days at CC though I am not really experiencing problems.... not sure yet.

Oriontool - Have you tried disconnecting your stuff one input at a time to see if you could find the offender. I don't have an Xbox or PS3, but it seems to me that the game consoles seem to produce the most problems, followed by the STB. Did your unit always do this or is it a recent development?

Emissary52, I have gone one by one, tried different cables, you name it! I've only had the unit since last Saturday and it has done it since day one. One thing that does happen, if I turn the 705 and ANY of the other units on, then disconnect and reconnect any of the HDMI cables form the 705, audio starts almost immediately. Otherwise it is generally 30-60 seconds, then it clicks and I have audio!

:confused::confused::confused:

Since I have 1.00, I am thinking of exchanging mine close to the 30 days at CC though I am not really experiencing problems.... not sure yet.

turbe - No one knows how significant the chip numbers or revisions are yet. My feeling is that if your receiver is working properly and doing everything that you ask of it - keep it. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Who knows, the next set of chip numbers may be a disaster in the making. Look at the Samsung BDP-1400 - the lastest firmware allowed it to have the receiver do the decoding for Dolby True HD. Now, users report that SD-DVDs don't play properly. Firmware upgrades can be a blessing or curse! It's the luck of the draw!;)

The 705 will only output 720p from HDMI, when converting from Component, even if it is 1080i at component.

Do we know if it will convert an HDMI input to component at full resolution? I'm looking to use both HDMI and component inputs on the receiver, but only have component hooked up to the TV. I know the 605 can't do this, and I'm hoping the 705 can.

Emissary52, I have gone one by one, tried different cables, you name it! I've only had the unit since last Saturday and it has done it since day one. One thing that does happen, if I turn the 705 and ANY of the other units on, then disconnect and reconnect any of the HDMI cables form the 705, audio starts almost immediately. Otherwise it is generally 30-60 seconds, then it clicks and I have audio!

:confused::confused::confused:

Oriontool - I think you have a good reason to return it. I just hope you bought it locally to avoid the hassle in returning it. I've not had a similar situation occur with my unit. 30 to 60 seconds is too long for the audio to kick in! But do me a favor and check your speaker connections really thoroughly. Some strange stuff can happen if they're not set up perfectly. If that doesn't cure the problem, bring it back.

Do we know if it will convert an HDMI input to component at full resolution? I'm looking to use both HDMI and component inputs on the receiver, but only have component hooked up to the TV. I know the 605 can't do this, and I'm hoping the 705 can.

colomb - HDMI to Receiver to TV via component will not work. It is a violation of the HDMI copywrite protection rules. You could go component to receiver to TV via component with no problems. No receiver, Onkyo or otherwise will do what you want, unfortunately.:(

colomb - HDMI to Receiver to TV via component will not work. It is a violation of the HDMI copywrite protection rules. You could go component to receiver to TV via component with no problems. No receiver, Onkyo or otherwise will do what you want, unfortunately.:(

Sniff, sniff. I was afraid of that. Thanks for the quick response.

I think its going to be mine since im running 125 degrees every night, lol. No but thanks for your concern, i plan on getting that fan in the next week, the one that blows out air from the sides since i only have about 1.5" space on top of receiver, i hope its a quiet fan. I cant imagine what it would be like without those 2 fans on the bottom of the 705. I would be cooking dinner on there and save money on gas. lol. Woots do u got a fan on yours? or anyone else with a fan on the 705 can post pics thanks.

http://www.buyextras.com/cacoso.html

I bought the 120mm ultra quiet fan from this website... these are computer fans and this guy who sells them pre-splices an AC/DC converter adapter to them. I plug it into the AC outlet on the back of my receiver.. it turns on and off with my receiver automatically for me.

I position it blowing hot air up and out of the receiver... its positioned on the back right top of the receiver laying down flat.

This drops down my temp 20 degrees at max speed... which really isn't to loud at all.. even with this 120mm fan cause its ultra quiet... smart cheap purchase that will help prolong the life of my receiver i am sure.

PS: I have low top clearance too... since I bought this I taped a lil black painted cardboard air scoop that shoots air out the back instead of straight up against the top of the shelf above it and thereby bouncing it back.. the split fan with air flow redirectors is nice.. but the combined CFM is less then the CFM of that 120mm I got... I build overclocked computers a lot so I am very versed on all forms of cooling and benefits of going various routes.

Since I have 1.00, I am thinking of exchanging mine close to the 30 days at CC though I am not really experiencing problems.... not sure yet.

not a bad idea, or exchange it for a 905 so you can update it when necessary via ethernet connection, might be worth it since ima have this receiver for another 6 years

Uptown - I agree totally with you. There should be a way to reprogam the chips. But this would be assuming that all the chips are programmable like a computer bios chip.

mrgribbles - Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but wasn't there a story on the 605 forums about a CD-Rom update for the 605 (German version)? I know that the later problem with the NA version of the 605 could only be remedied by returning it to Onkyo for service. I wonder if some of the chips are programmable while others are not. It would be nice if Onkyo trusted its customers to do an update if it is possible, rather than have to return it to them. Maybe they think we'll "brick" the receiver if the owners try it themselves.

Right on target. We know how to do it but we don't have the firmware and likely never will see it unless a service center or insider leaks it.

If you peruse the HD DVD threads there must be a 1,000 posts on the less technically inclined on trying to update their players via a pretty simple method. The Onkyo method is far more complicated than putting in a CD and turning it on so you could do it, I could do it but, everyone? I doubt it, based on what I read in the forums.

Emissary52, I have gone one by one, tried different cables, you name it! I've only had the unit since last Saturday and it has done it since day one. One thing that does happen, if I turn the 705 and ANY of the other units on, then disconnect and reconnect any of the HDMI cables form the 705, audio starts almost immediately. Otherwise it is generally 30-60 seconds, then it clicks and I have audio!

:confused::confused::confused:

What did Onkyo tech support tell you about this problem?

Return if if you can if not send it in for repairs and if all that fails, sell it then find a thread for your TV and see what AVR they using for your display and purchase that one. Might help. Just an idea. I know i wont be able to handle those problems.

What did Onkyo tech support tell you about this problem?

Return if if you can if not send it in for repairs and if all that fails, sell it then find a thread for your TV and see what AVR they using for your display and purchase that one. Might help. Just an idea. I know i wont be able to handle those problems.

I never received a response to either of my emails from Onkyo. VERY frustrating. I tried calling and waited on hold for 2 hours and could not hanlde waiting any longer. I think I am gonna exchange it tonight and see if it still does it. If so, then ??? If not, then I am a happy camper.

I am having a problem with the Audyssey set-up. I have 2 fronts, center, sub and 1 pair of surround connected as surroung, not back surround).

When I run Audyssey set-up the the sequence I get is: LF beeps, the center is silent, the FR beeps, the RSurr, beeps, the LF beeps (that's right - not a typo), the LSurr beeps and the sub gives a buzz. As I proceed into the set-up, the on screen display shows LF, no center, RF, RSurr, 1 left rear (which I do not have), LSurr and sub.

I canceled the set-up and now await advice from the experts here. Thanks.

Second isssue.

Here is my set-up:
Moto 3416 STB via HDMI > Mitsu 46 flat panel LCD
Moto STB Toslink optical out>705 optical in
DVD via component>TV
TV via coax digital>705 digital in (not the game port)
705 via HDMI>TV HDMI in

Problem: I can only get the DVD player to be recognized by the 705 when I push the #3 button (Cab/sat) on the remote.

Questions: 1) comments on set-up in general
2) how to get DVD to be recognized by the DVD button on the remote

I called Onkyo tech support, but I just want to double check something. I have a PC that has a DVI out. I'm going to get a DVI to HDMI adaptor to hook the PC to the sr705. Will 1024x768 PC resolution pass throught the HDMI input just fine and come out the same resolution?

I've read on the tread the the 705 will upconvert a standard signal (s-video) to 720P, but the features sheet and the tech guy said the chip will deinterlace to 480P. Do you know which is correct?

I have an Onkyo sr702 now and I'm really looking forward to the HDMI upgrade.
thanx
jerr

I see that the 720P is a "hidden option" now, but has anyone tried to passthrough a PC on the HDMI? I have a projector and I just want to make sure that the passthrough will let 1024x768 go to the projector with no problems and using DVI to HDMI & HDMI back to DVI cables. I know it will work in theory, but anyone tried it? So anyone tried that or am I just crazy?

I will have this receiver by tomorrow, I hope. One question: if i route my cable stb into one of the HDMI ports, and connect the tv via the receiver's HDMI out port, does the receiver need to be powered on if one wants to simply watch tv w/o any sound processing by the receiver? My brother's Yamaha 6080 is setup this way and needs to be on to get any signal to the tv. Also, if you simply want to listen to a music cd off the dvd player,the tv needs to be on or you break the hdmi signal. I find this kind of annoying. Sometimes all ya wanna do is just turn on the tv or listen to a cd, if ya know what I mean.

I will have this receiver by tomorrow, I hope. One question: if i route my cable stb into one of the HDMI ports, and connect the tv via the receiver's HDMI out port, does the receiver need to be powered on if one wants to simply watch tv w/o any sound processing by the receiver? My brother's Yamaha 6080 is setup this way and needs to be on to get any signal to the tv. Also, if you simply want to listen to a music cd off the dvd player,the tv needs to be on or you break the hdmi signal. I find this kind of annoying. Sometimes all ya wanna do is just turn on the tv or listen to a cd, if ya know what I mean.

Yeah, same problem for me but for a different reason:

When I'm on a different HDMI input, the HDMI input for my HTPC completely shuts off and Windows XP thinks the monitor (projector) doesn't exist at all (I have a dual monitor setup in the back of my media room.

So I have to go into display properties and re-add the second monitor (projector).

However, if a film is already playing on the HTPC (i.e. active movement on the screen), the 705 doesn't shut off the HDMI port. Weird.

Anyone have any insight on this?

I am sure the answer to this is out there, i have done a few searches and cant seem to find it, When i use the hidden menu to convert to 720p i get the black bars on the side, is there any way to get rid of them?

Hi all,

I am thinking to get the 705 soon (waiting for a good deal), and I have just ordered a set of speakers (OMNI 550 as fronts, OMNI C150 as C, and OMNI 350 as surround) to connect into the upcoming Onkyo 705. Now... I used to have 5.1 system, and the 705 is a 7.1 receiver - my question is, where is my surround speakers should connect to? To "Surround Back speaker" or "Surround Speaker"? The location of the rear speakers will be close to 130 degree on the both sides and facing the front... I would love to go true 7.1 (in fact... I dont even have the .1 yet LOL); but there is limited budget...

BTW... do i need a sub?

Any input would be nice... thanks!

Your surround speakers in a 5.0 or 5.1 system will connect to the "Surround Speaker" outs. The "Surround Back" outputs are for the extra surrounds in a 6.1/7.1 system. Yes, you should have a powered sub. Putting out loud and deep bass is very tough for regular speakers and draws a lot of power from the receiver's amps. The sub just makes life easier for your whole system.

http://www.buyextras.com/cacoso.html

I bought the 120mm ultra quiet fan from this website... these are computer fans and this guy who sells them pre-splices an AC/DC converter adapter to them. I plug it into the AC outlet on the back of my receiver.. it turns on and off with my receiver automatically for me.


Hey woots: I just ordered this one http://www.buyextras.com/evavcoblfanf.html
lets see how it helps

I am having a problem with the Audyssey set-up. I have 2 fronts, center, sub and 1 pair of surround connected as surroung, not back surround).

When I run Audyssey set-up the the sequence I get is: LF beeps, the center is silent, the FR beeps, the RSurr, beeps, the LF beeps (that's right - not a typo), the LSurr beeps and the sub gives a buzz. As I proceed into the set-up, the on screen display shows LF, no center, RF, RSurr, 1 left rear (which I do not have), LSurr and sub.

I canceled the set-up and now await advice from the experts here. Thanks.

marciecat - The first thing I would do if I were you would be to re-check those speaker connections on the back of the 705. Also if you are re-using your old speaker wire from a previous setup, I'd treat myself and the receiver to some new speaker wire. You don't need the super-pricey stuff but get somthing like 16-gauge wire that you can get at Home Depot, Lowe's or WalMart. Re-run the Audyssey and let us know how it goes.:)

Hey woots: I just ordered this one http://www.buyextras.com/evavcoblfanf.html
lets see how it helps

This is the one I am using here http://www.buyextras.com/vastulqu12dc.html


Lemme know the temp drop you see when you get yours I get 20 on average, degrees of temp drop, 22 on occasion.

Ok, it appears to be my Dishnetwork 622. *&%%#%$&! If I connect it via comp. cables and a toslink for sound, it works fine! BUT, now my resolution is not so hot. I cannot get the resolution above 1280X (something). I am not at home, in my car doing this from memory. Sorry for the lack of info.

So, any suggestions? I am running a Dishnetwork DVR 622, XBOX 360, Upscaling(converting) DVD, PS3. All of which should be HDMI, but I can't get the Sat. to work with HDMI just comp. Which looks crappy.

:D HELP!!! :D


Get Dish to exchange your 622 if the HDMI out is not working properly.

This saga is getting stranger and stranger! When I connect my DVR622, Xbox 360, and DVD (all HDMI) and then turn on the receiver, the HDMI light flashes fort about 30-60 seconds and the the receiver starts playing audio.

Anyone else seen/heard of this? If so, is it normal?

Thanks!

I have basically the same setup (VIP622, XBox 360, DVD) and don't have that problem.... all work just fine.

Right on target. We know how to do it but we don't have the firmware and likely never will see it unless a service center or insider leaks it.

If you peruse the HD DVD threads there must be a 1,000 posts on the less technically inclined on trying to update their players via a pretty simple method. The Onkyo method is far more complicated than putting in a CD and turning it on so you could do it, I could do it but, everyone? I doubt it, based on what I read in the forums.

mrgribbles - It's a shame that we're not at least given some opportunity to upgrade our receivers. It seems that Denon is a little more flexible in their upgrade procedures than Onkyo is. I agree with you, that many members might not be up to the task of flashing their receivers but there can be tangible benefits for users and non-users. Let me give you an example.

I have several LiteOn DVD recorders which I used alot until I got STB's with hard drives in them. I used to go on the company's site to flash the firmware on a regular basis. I found a few hacker forums for these recorders that had members that would modify the firmware to add additional features that the original units could not do - such as recording a 3 hour disk. The site had software such as an editor program with a limited time usage where you could modify the firmware to your heart's content if you were so inclined. I swear that LiteOn borrowed some of our "homebrewed" code to improve their own firmware. Everyone benefits in the long run if the company is made to get off its duff by proactive users.

My new dream toy would be an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray machine that had a recordable HD DVD in it along with a hefty hard drive. But I saw that Toshiba has already beat me to the punch and there are Blu-Ray machines available in Japan that have this capability. I guess we'll see them here about the time that I'm forced into "Shady Rest" against my will.:rolleyes:

This is the one I am using here http://www.buyextras.com/vastulqu12dc.html


Lemme know the temp drop you see when you get yours I get 20 on average, degrees of temp drop, 22 on occasion.

Ok will do. Oh i thought u had the other one with the double fans and heat sinks. Well i had to get the one that blows air out the sides for my 1 1/2" space.

Ok, now I am wondering if part of my problem could be related to my speakers. On the front, I've got two Klipsch speakers, 8 ohm. I also have a Bose Acustimass 3 (2 sats. and a sub). With my old Sony, I just ran them as positive from the Klipsch and positive from the Bose to the positive on the receiver and the same on the negative. All going to the front speakers.

When I had the speaker disconnected I did not see to have the issue. Could the speakers be the issue?

I will have this receiver by tomorrow, I hope. One question: if i route my cable stb into one of the HDMI ports, and connect the tv via the receiver's HDMI out port, does the receiver need to be powered on if one wants to simply watch tv w/o any sound processing by the receiver? My brother's Yamaha 6080 is setup this way and needs to be on to get any signal to the tv. Also, if you simply want to listen to a music cd off the dvd player,the tv needs to be on or you break the hdmi signal. I find this kind of annoying. Sometimes all ya wanna do is just turn on the tv or listen to a cd, if ya know what I mean.

Can any current owners offer some insight? I guess I will find out soon enough.

I figured I'd post my version numbers since they seem to indicate an evolutionary trend.

Main 1.02/07712B
DSPS8051:07727A
DSPS8052:07727A
DSPS8053:07727A
HDMI1.01/07706A
VD:3.58/07609A

And of course, this may not be evolutionary at all, but a production run date that is stamped on the chips. Does anyone remember who produces them - (TI or Sigma)? Someone, I believe posted this info a few thousand posts ago and I can't remember which forum, whether it was this one, or the 605 or 805.
I suspect that the VD (video display chip?) will have a similar number - the 3.58 part, depending on your country or area - our Aussie friend had a different number and then the revision number or production date. As we know, the 605 only has the one DSP chip, while the 805 setup may parallel our 705s.
I wonder whether most important chip may be the HDMI with its revisions, because it is so important to the whole handshaking process.

As far as the heat issue goes, I've found that my 705 runs a little hotter than the Sony STR-DE995 that it replaced - this is by touch only. So far, the 705 has been flawless - knock on wood!:)My unit is an australian delivered and bought unit, and i have the exact same firmware numbers as woots and uptown... so i dont think any of the numbers can be region specific. I agree that the numbers at this point do appear to be dates. But remember it is also typical to use the date to represent a software/firmware revision that was built on that date because it is obviuosly ever increasing. It also makes sense that given mine was one of the first units in australia (i had already ordered mine and was waiting for them to land), and i received it late august, that all of my date/revisions appear to be dates in May/June this year.

Im glad i dont have as early versions as some have posted, but a little sad that there are more recent versions of Main, HDMI and VD firmwares... i just hope when i get some HDMI sources in the future, i dont find that i have all sorts of problems!

I am having a problem with the Audyssey set-up. I have 2 fronts, center, sub and 1 pair of surround connected as surroung, not back surround).

When I run Audyssey set-up the the sequence I get is: LF beeps, the center is silent, the FR beeps, the RSurr, beeps, the LF beeps (that's right - not a typo), the LSurr beeps and the sub gives a buzz. As I proceed into the set-up, the on screen display shows LF, no center, RF, RSurr, 1 left rear (which I do not have), LSurr and sub.

I canceled the set-up and now await advice from the experts here. Thanks.id check your speaker cables are not crossed or touching, and are all inserted into the correct binding posts. It pretty much sounds like you may have some wires hooked into the wrong posts.

My unit is an australian delivered and bought unit, and i have the exact same firmware numbers as woots and uptown... so i dont think any of the numbers can be region specific. I agree that the numbers at this point do appear to be dates. But remember it is also typical to use the date to represent a software/firmware revision that was built on that date because it is obviuosly ever increasing. It also makes sense that given mine was one of the first units in australia (i had already ordered mine and was waiting for them to land), and i received it late august, that all of my date/revisions appear to be dates in May/June this year.

Im glad i dont have as early versions as some have posted, but a little sad that there are more recent versions of Main, HDMI and VD firmwares... i just hope when i get some HDMI sources in the future, i dont find that i have all sorts of problems!

scarecrow420 - Sorry about that Chief! I was on my first coffee of the morning and confused you with sirhc55. It sounds like he bought his in Hong Kong and then went to Australia with it. His had the different VD #. Do they use NTSC in Australia and Hong Kong or a close variant? NTSC BTW stands for "Never Twice the Same Color".;)

Can any current owners offer some insight? I guess I will find out soon enough.

Yes the receiver needs to be on even if you want to watch tv without sound.

I just set up my new 705 and everything is running via HDMI, except my trusty old xbox (the original) which I use to stream video to my Mitsu WD-65732. I have that set up using componant, but when I let the 705 upconvert to HDMI out, there is quite a noticible shake (back and forth) of the picture, at the xbox menu and playing games. Now, if I watch a movie, there is no shake, and when I switch to componant passthru, there is no shake at all. Any suggestions/ideas???

scarecrow420 - Sorry about that Chief! I was on my first coffee of the morning and confused you with sirhc55. It sounds like he bought his in Hong Kong and then went to Australia with it. His had the different VD #. Do they use NTSC in Australia and Hong Kong or a close variant? NTSC BTW stand for "Never Twice the Same Color".;)In australia we use PAL. Instead of 60 frames a sec, its 50. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL
However most DVD players and TVs these days handle PAL and NTSC.

i believe that this PAL/NTSC stuff only applies to analogues systems like analogue TV and DVDs. Digital TV and high definition media i dont think have these encoding types anymore but then again i think there still are some that run at 50 frames and others that run at 60 frames (and of course the natvie 24 frames of movies etc as well). Its all so confusing hehe but luckily at this point in time, pretty much all displays, players (and receivers) seem to be able to support all of it, so you dont get any probs when importing region 1 US DVDs and watching them in aus and that kind of thing

I figured I'd post my version numbers since they seem to indicate an evolutionary trend.

Main 1.02/07712B
DSPS8051:07727A
DSPS8052:07727A
DSPS8053:07727A
HDMI1.01/07706A
VD:3.58/07609A

And of course, this may not be evolutionary at all, but a production run date that is stamped on the chips. Does anyone remember who produces them - (TI or Sigma)? Someone, I believe posted this info a few thousand posts ago and I can't remember which forum, whether it was this one, or the 605 or 805.
I suspect that the VD (video display chip?) will have a similar number - the 3.58 part, depending on your country or area - our Aussie friend had a different number and then the revision number or production date. As we know, the 605 only has the one DSP chip, while the 805 setup may parallel our 705s.
I wonder whether most important chip may be the HDMI with its revisions, because it is so important to the whole handshaking process.

As far as the heat issue goes, I've found that my 705 runs a little hotter than the Sony STR-DE995 that it replaced - this is by touch only. So far, the 705 has been flawless - knock on wood!:)

My version #
Main 1.02 07712B
DSPS8051 07601A
DSPS8052 07518A
DSPS8053 07518A
HDMI 1.01/07706A
VD 3.62 07717A

bought on 10/10 from vanns

that sux, looks like I am leaving the cable box directly connected to HDMI 1, and HDMI 2 for the hd-dvd or anything else thru the receiver

My Version Numbers:

Main 1.01/07618A
DSPS8051:07601A
DSPS8052: 07518A
DSPS8053: 07518A
HDMI1.00/07517A
VD:3.58/07609A

Thats mine.


My Version Numbers:

Main 1.02/07712b
DSPS8051:07601A
DSPS8052: 07518A
DSPS8053: 07518A
HDMI1.01/07706A
VD:3.62/07717A

bought this couple of weeks back online.

I just set up my new 705 and everything is running via HDMI, except my trusty old xbox (the original) which I use to stream video to my Mitsu WD-65732. I have that set up using componant, but when I let the 705 upconvert to HDMI out, there is quite a noticible shake (back and forth) of the picture, at the xbox menu and playing games. Now, if I watch a movie, there is no shake, and when I switch to componant passthru, there is no shake at all. Any suggestions/ideas???As i dont have a HDTV yet im not using HDMI, so i just run my original xbox (yay for XBMC!) as component pass through the onkyo

It seems the upconverting from component sources to HDMI done by the 705 leaves alot to be desired and you dont have a lot of parameters at your disposal to adjust. Even the 875 with the REON video processor doesnt have any of the adjustment options to tweak the reon.

It seems that basically the only thing you can try is altering what the source (xbox) is putting out, and hope that you can find a setting where the onkyo can work with it. Im thinking it all comes down to what scaling or de-interlacing the onkyo has to do. And the fact that it works fine when playing back DVDs (which i think is in 480i) might help explain that?

I know with the PAL australian xbox, we dont have many resolution options to pick when using component... but if we hard or soft mod our box, we can run it as NTSC and that lets us choose 720P and 1080i options as well

So i would suggest tweaking what the xbox is outputting, hoping to find something where the onkyo doesnt mess with it unacceptably.

For example, if you input 480i, the onkyo will de-interlace it to 480P and send it out via HDMI. If you input 480P the onkyo wont de-interlace it. If you input 720P i think it remains at 720P, and if you input 1080i (or 1080P which the xbox cant do, but xbox360 can), then it will deinterlace it and downconvert it to 720P. This is with the secret menu option set to AUTO. So i guess out of all those options you need to figure out which process causes the shaking, and hope to avoid that by inputting the correct signal from the xbox. Dont forget you have the hidden menu setting as well, which when set to 720P will cause the 480 signals to be puled up to 720P rather than left at 480P. However i suspect since the video processing is obviuosly not the strong suit of these receivers you dont want to have it doing too much to the signal

Bear in mind the above paragraph is in reference to component (and lower signals) being input, and upconverted to HDMI (HDMI Monitor Out setting ON in the setup menu). When using HDMI sources, the signal is passed through as is so it wont upconvert 480 to 720 etc, but it also wont mess (or isnt supposed to, though some people claim they can see a difference) with 1080 signals which is good.

Good luck with your xbox, let us know if you do find settings that reduce the shaking, as i will be in the same boat as you when i get a DTV.

The other point to mention is that in alot of these cases, it could be the DTV that is causing/contributing to some problems as well... particularly if it isnt a really new model with HDMI 1.3 and the latest video processing/scaling etc on board... same as how alot of problems people are having seem to be related to their particular (older) model of cable box, rather than an outright problem with the 705

that sux, looks like I am leaving the cable box directly connected to HDMI 1, and HDMI 2 for the hd-dvd or anything else thru the receiverwhats the big problem with having to have the receiver on though? Even the onkyo remote has macro and learning function, so you can have a macro to turn on all devices, and turn off all devices (if the better half complains she doesnt want to turn on the tv, receiver and cable box just to watch a show!). Personally i never use the tv speakers and just have them muted or volume at 0, so i always have the AVR on anyway. Basically to have it pass through HDMI video even when switched off, it would obviuosly be consuming power and not actually be "off", so that really makes sense to me.

I agree though that it would be highly annoying having to have the TV on, when wanting to LISTEN to music from a source... but i guess if its a DVD player which normally outputs video then the HDMI handshaking process cant really know that you are playing an audio CD (plus the DVD player still has a GUI/screen for selecting tracks on the DVD). And they say the handshake is controlled by the source, so its probably actually the DVD player wanting to see the display on the HDMI chain before it will allow the music/handshake.

However i wonder if you have a dedicated CD player with no video, but uses a HDMI connection (if there even are any), whether it would still require the display to be switched on in order to play the audio from the CD player.

whats the big problem with having to have the receiver on though? Even the onkyo remote has macro and learning function, so you can have a macro to turn on all devices, and turn off all devices (if the better half complains she doesnt want to turn on the tv, receiver and cable box just to watch a show!). Personally i never use the tv speakers and just have them muted or volume at 0, so i always have the AVR on anyway. Basically to have it pass through HDMI video even when switched off, it would obviuosly be consuming power and not actually be "off", so that really makes sense to me.

I agree though that it would be highly annoying having to have the TV on, when wanting to LISTEN to music from a source... but i guess if its a DVD player which normally outputs video then the HDMI handshaking process cant really know that you are playing an audio CD (plus the DVD player still has a GUI/screen for selecting tracks on the DVD). And they say the handshake is controlled by the source, so its probably actually the DVD player wanting to see the display on the HDMI chain before it will allow the music/handshake.

However i wonder if you have a dedicated CD player with no video, but uses a HDMI connection (if there even are any), whether it would still require the display to be switched on in order to play the audio from the CD player.

I will have this receiver by tomorrow, I hope. One question: if i route my cable stb into one of the HDMI ports, and connect the tv via the receiver's HDMI out port, does the receiver need to be powered on if one wants to simply watch tv w/o any sound processing by the receiver? My brother's Yamaha 6080 is setup this way and needs to be on to get any signal to the tv. Also, if you simply want to listen to a music cd off the dvd player,the tv needs to be on or you break the hdmi signal. I find this kind of annoying. Sometimes all ya wanna do is just turn on the tv or listen to a cd, if ya know what I mean.

jjdesch - As an alternative to having the TV on while you're listening to a CD, you could try hooking up your DVD player with a simple RCA cord setup in addition to your HDMI and see if you can get it to work thru the CD settings setup. It's worth a try!

That is ABSOLUTELY how I feel. My 705 came from my local CC, my 52" Vizio came from my local Costco, and everything else (PS3, speakers, stands, shelf unit) came via Amazon and its affiliated sellers. The Amazon part of the deal was flawless, seamless, and the one problem I had (broken speaker stand) was fixed in record time, no hassle, no questions asked.

Will I be inclined to re-visit CC? Hold a gun to my head...maybe.

Will I buy again with Amazon? Without question.

--Mikey

mike, are you able to control the vizio tv with the 705 reciever remote??
I am not able to turn my vizio plasma tv on , using the code 1783 from the remote code list. same problem, not able to turn the philips dvp5982 dvd player as well. I tried all the codes for the philips dvd player, but no luck, and there is only 1 code for vizio.


any suggestions except calling onkyo customer service??
Hate to be on hold for hours, that too without a 1-800 number.....

mike, are you able to control the vizio tv with the 705 reciever remote??
I am not able to turn my vizio plasma tv on , using the code 1783 from the remote code list. same problem, not able to turn the philips dvp5982 dvd player as well. I tried all the codes for the philips dvd player, but no luck, and there is only 1 code for vizio.


any suggestions except calling onkyo customer service??
Hate to be on hold for hours, that too without a 1-800 number.....

I also had problems with the ON button working for my TV when using the pre-programmed code. I doubt there's anything that onkyo customer support can do to help you.

But at least the remote has a full learning ability, so you can learn the commands from your existing remote. For some reason the dedicated tv on and standby buttons at the top right cant be customised, but you can customise the main on/standby buttons, it just means you have to switch the remote to TV control mode first, then hit the power button. I have a macro that turns on receiver, tv and cable box (by changing remote mode to the appropriate device, then using the ON or STANDBY button), and then changes the reciver to the CABLE/SAT input. I have another macro that switches the 3 devices off.

mike, are you able to control the vizio tv with the 705 reciever remote??
I am not able to turn my vizio plasma tv on , using the code 1783 from the remote code list. same problem, not able to turn the philips dvp5982 dvd player as well. I tried all the codes for the philips dvd player, but no luck, and there is only 1 code for vizio.


any suggestions except calling onkyo customer service??
Hate to be on hold for hours, that too without a 1-800 number.....

I have Vizio TV and PHILIPS DVP5892 setup. To make your Vizio TV receive commands from Onkyo remote, try using LG codes. I tried with the 1783 code and it didn't work for me. Then I called Onkyo support and they have suggested me to use LG codes. It did work for me.

As for as getting the DVP5892, the supplied codes didn't work for me either. Then I programmed using the learing option. Now it works pefectly fine.

I just got my Onkyo tx-sr705. I have my Motorola cable box output 1080i by component into the receiver then it goes to my TV by HDMI. The info on my TV says that it is 720P.

Today, I will try to take the signal from the receiver out to the TV by component and see if it is left at 1080i.

Before I got the 705 I hooked the HDTV up directly to the cable box by component and got 1080i. Would do that again if I have to but like the convenience on one button switching to TV by my receiver. I will still have to switch the input source on my HDTv so I guess nothing will be gained. Might as well hook directly. Would lose my ON screen display though

Lonesomedave

I think if you connect your box to the reciever using HDMI port and from Onkyo Receiver to the TV via HDMI the problem of 720P doesn't occur. In my case, I have connected my dish VIP622 to the Receiver via HDMI and from Receiver to the TV via HDMI. I have no issues and the on the TV i get it as 1080i.

I did little bit more research on the onkyo website and found the following;

Below information is from Onkyo website FAQ section for receivers.

"...This is a limitation of the Faroudja DCDi chip used in the Onkyo receivers. Incoming 1080i signals via component connection can only be transmitted via HDMI in 720p. Incoming 1080i signals via an HDMI connection will be transmitted in 1080i..."

The following hook up recommendations will allow you to display 1080i resolutions from your cable/satellite.

1. If the cable/satellite has the options of HDMI or DVI outputs, use those connections instead of the component video. The HDMI connection will allow audio and video signals to be sent thought a single connection. The DVI connection is for video only. You will need a DVI to HDMI adaptor plus a separate audio connection to go from the cable/satellite box the receiver for sound.

2. if your cable/satellite only supports component video then you can either go component video out along with the HDMI from the receiver to the TV. Or you can go from the cable/ satellite direct into the TV with the component video so you can get the 1080i signal from the broadcasts.

scarecrow420 - Sorry about that Chief! I was on my first coffee of the morning and confused you with sirhc55. It sounds like he bought his in Hong Kong and then went to Australia with it. His had the different VD #. Do they use NTSC in Australia and Hong Kong or a close variant? NTSC BTW stands for "Never Twice the Same Color".;)

Hi Emissary52 - I actually live in Australia and bought the unit from a Hong Kong ebayer. Australia is PAL for TV transmission but I have an NTSC Toshiba HD-XA2 purchased from LA. This unit is NTSC and I pass it through the 705 to a HD panel using HDMI. The panel is multi system so the result is fantastic. I also have to take our 240V down to 120V through a transformer.

Ye Gods I wish the whole world worked on one unified system of voltage and TV transmission

Guys, those of you that are using Blu Ray players with your 705, what model would you suggest right now? I have a Toshiba A2 HD player but want to go Blu Ray as well. Who has the best deal on a decent player right now? I don't want the latest, greatest model and would like to keep it under $400 if possible. I'm not ruling out a PS3 but would have to wait until the $399 model comes out to keep it in my budget. Suggestions? Don't want to go too far off topic but I know a lot of us 705 owners are also Blu Ray folks.

Hi, I have a couple questions about the SR705.

First, the manual says you can change A/V sync (audio delay) by holding down an input button for 5 seconds and then using the <> keys to adjust the delay. When using this method, is there an onscreen menu that pops up, or is the delay you are changing only showed on the front of the receiver? On my currenty Yamaha, you had to actually go into the menu system, which blacked out the picture, when you were changing audio delay.

Second, I want to confirm that the 705 will support my needs. Specifically, I need to have 6 video sources hooked in the back, and still leave the front S-Video available.

Requirements:

Rear Inputs:
DirecTV HR10-250 Comp/HDMI - Optical
DirecTV HR20-100 Comp/HDMI - Optical
Soon: HD-DVD or BluRay DVD Comp/HDMI - Optical
Xbox360 Component - Optical
Sony Mega Changer 480p component - Coax
Nintendo Wii 480p component - Unknown (a am hooked up L/R stereo at moment)

Front Input:
Laptop via front panel - S-Video

Output:
Infocus IN76 Projector Component/HDMI

I would not buy any blu-ray player other than the PS3 because they will all be out of date soon with only one video decoder and no ethernet port. The $1000 samsung dual format player (5000 something?) is going to be the first version 1.1 player but the PS3 is also expected to be upgraded.

I would not buy any blu-ray player other than the PS3 because they will all be out of date soon with only one video decoder and no ethernet port. The $1000 samsung dual format player (5000 something?) is going to be the first version 1.1 player but the PS3 is also expected to be upgraded.

Okay, did I read correctly that I would have to buy a separate remote for Blu Ray player operation if I went PS3? Not that big a deal but I would rather use something like the Harmony 880 if it would work.

I would not buy any blu-ray player other than the PS3 because they will all be out of date soon with only one video decoder and no ethernet port. The $1000 samsung dual format player (5000 something?) is going to be the first version 1.1 player but the PS3 is also expected to be upgraded.

I'm no PS3 expert, but from what I've read over on the PS3 forum here, the PS3's "upgradability" is severely hampered by the DSP chipset it has on its mainboard. No firmware upgrade is going to overcome inadequate silicon if that is indeed a limitation.

FWIW, the forthcoming Samsung BD-UP5000 dual-format player looks like a terrific choice. Has all features of both formats (HD DVD and BD), Reon-powered upscaling for SD DVDs, plus bitstream output for in-AVR decoding of advanced surround sound formats. No other player boasts all those features, and if it does indeed hit stores this quarter at the expected price of $799, it will be hard to beat. That is, of course, if you're like me and don't give a damn about games and want a player that fits well in your AV cabinet.

Hi, I have a couple questions about the SR705.

First, the manual says you can change A/V sync (audio delay) by holding down an input button for 5 seconds and then using the <> keys to adjust the delay. When using this method, is there an onscreen menu that pops up, or is the delay you are changing only showed on the front of the receiver? On my currenty Yamaha, you had to actually go into the menu system, which blacked out the picture, when you were changing audio delay.

Second, I want to confirm that the 705 will support my needs. Specifically, I need to have 6 video sources hooked in the back, and still leave the front S-Video available.

Requirements:

Rear Inputs:
DirecTV HR10-250 Comp/HDMI - Optical
DirecTV HR20-100 Comp/HDMI - Optical
Soon: HD-DVD or BluRay DVD Comp/HDMI - Optical
Xbox360 Component - Optical
Sony Mega Changer 480p component - Coax
Nintendo Wii 480p component - Unknown (a am hooked up L/R stereo at moment)

Front Input:
Laptop via front panel - S-Video

Output:
Infocus IN76 Projector Component/HDMI

You can do it with the setup menu and remote. A prompt will ask if you want to return the picture and it will persist. This way you can see and hear whats being displayed and adjust accordingly. The main problem is that it will only persist for a couple of seconds per button push so I find that I have to keep pressing the button back and forth so I don't lose the function. In fact if anyone has found a way to increase the display time for this I'd love to hear it.

Okay, did I read correctly that I would have to buy a separate remote for Blu Ray player operation if I went PS3? Not that big a deal but I would rather use something like the Harmony 880 if it would work.

PS3 has no built in built in IR remote it is one of possibly only devices in the world that has a blue tooth remote... which is cool, but not cool that it doesn't also have an IR. Since you own harmony, you have to do what I did to get it to work with a Harmony... go to newegg.com and buy the lil nyko Ps3 IR remote http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879213018 ... it has a lil short usb dongle you plug in the front that catches and uses the IR signals and you can manually program your harmony to use it (yea I said manually.. this is one rare remote logitech wont have in its database... since IR for ps3 is unorthodox they don't even keep remotes for it.)

PS: side note on using IR remote with the PS3 vs the bluetooth remote you buy. The IR remote lags hardcore.. its like click, click click wait wait wait... then brrrrRApppp click-click-click on screen... you gotta learn to not click to fast since there is a lil delay... it REALLY sucks... so maybe you want to experiment with another IR remote brand for ps3.. there is a few out right now.. I got the NYKO brand one. When I use the remote that came with the NYKO usb thingy I get NO lag... but when I use the Harmony remote.. its a nightmare with so the lag... not sure why this is... I even set the delays and inter-component delays all to 0ms in the settings of the harmony.. i tried higher and lower .. no clue why it happens. But.. hey at least it work. At least my harmony controls my xbox 360 normally....

PPS: There is no power on and off with these IR converters for ps3... you only get that feature with the bluetooth remote.. since you need to click the PS3 button and it pulls out a screen and you select shutdown.. not sure why they couldnt include a ps3 button.

That remote issue is the reason I didn't buy a PS3 as a Blu-Ray player. I've worked hard to get our remote count down to 1. Keep it simple...

I have Vizio TV and PHILIPS DVP5892 setup. To make your Vizio TV receive commands from Onkyo remote, try using LG codes. I tried with the 1783 code and it didn't work for me. Then I called Onkyo support and they have suggested me to use LG codes. It did work for me.

As for as getting the DVP5892, the supplied codes didn't work for me either. Then I programmed using the learing option. Now it works pefectly fine.

Thanks narayanrao.

That remote issue is the reason I didn't buy a PS3 as a Blu-Ray player. I've worked hard to get our remote count down to 1. Keep it simple...

I only use one remote.. and I use that IR remote accessory to be able to use my harmony on my PS3.. outside of delay issue (which is minor) .. Infact I have tossed all my remotes into the cabinet in the other room.. thats how much I hated my 12 remotes sitting all over the place.

I think if you connect your box to the reciever using HDMI port and from Onkyo Receiver to the TV via HDMI the problem of 720P doesn't occur. In my case, I have connected my dish VIP622 to the Receiver via HDMI and from Receiver to the TV via HDMI. I have no issues and the on the TV i get it as 1080i.

I did little bit more research on the onkyo website and found the following;

Below information is from Onkyo website FAQ section for receivers.

"...This is a limitation of the Faroudja DCDi chip used in the Onkyo receivers. Incoming 1080i signals via component connection can only be transmitted via HDMI in 720p. Incoming 1080i signals via an HDMI connection will be transmitted in 1080i..."

The following hook up recommendations will allow you to display 1080i resolutions from your cable/satellite.

1. If the cable/satellite has the options of HDMI or DVI outputs, use those connections instead of the component video. The HDMI connection will allow audio and video signals to be sent thought a single connection. The DVI connection is for video only. You will need a DVI to HDMI adaptor plus a separate audio connection to go from the cable/satellite box the receiver for sound.

2. if your cable/satellite only supports component video then you can either go component video out along with the HDMI from the receiver to the TV. Or you can go from the cable/ satellite direct into the TV with the component video so you can get the 1080i signal from the broadcasts.

Thanks for the reply. Last night I had a problem with my Samsung Ln-4665F Hdtv. Every button I pressed on the remote turned it off. Finally found some new batteries and I think it's working now. But in the process I plugged in the TV from the Cable Box directly by component. Now I get my 1080i video. I alos plugged in the extra two audio cords to the TV also. Sometimes I have found that having the tv on without the big 705 burning the air might be good. Also it's less confusing for visiters to watch tv with having to know which of the 6 remotes I normally have on my stand to work with.

I have the Cable Box connected by TOSHlink to the 705 for good sound when I want it.

Lonsesomedave

I only use one remote.. and I use that IR remote accessory to be able to use my harmony on my PS3.. outside of delay issue (which is minor) .. Infact I have tossed all my remotes into the cabinet in the other room.. thats how much I hated my 12 remotes sitting all over the place.

I have a very itchy trigger finger right now. It's a good thing that 40G PS3 is still a week away or I would buy one on my lunch hour. I really want a Blu Ray player and having the option to play games is nice although I'm a 360 guy.

I have a very itchy trigger finger right now. It's a good thing that 40G PS3 is still a week away or I would buy one on my lunch hour. I really want a Blu Ray player and having the option to play games is nice although I'm a 360 guy.

Online Network:
You will find 360 is better for games in general (just cause xbox live.. is WAY more developed then PS3 network...playing online is easier, getting game updates is easier, getting demos and big downloads is way quicker on xbox live) the only difference is ps3 is free online (unless you wanna buy stuff from the store) This is microsoft's second try with xbox live though and sony's 1st try with ps network. It makes sense that MS is ahead of the curve in that regard. There is some promise that playstation may later in the year finally get an online system that is equal to or better then MS's. They are coming out with that "Second Life" look-a-like 3d interactive world version of what xbox live does. Its still in beta and according to friends its buggy right now.. was supposed to be out this month and if its still buggy.. no telling when it will come out.

Games:
There is only a handful of games that are ps3 exclusives and a handful more coming in next year.. so the good news is you can nearly make it a 100% dedicated blu ray player. The only good thing is most games that come out for 360 come out for ps3 too. So.. if you wanted to you could easily make this a full time game console.

Player:
Its got really good upscaling of regular dvd's and I cant complain about the visual quality of the 1080p at all.. it looks great. The audio even though it gets decoded inside still sounds fantastic set to PCM.

Thanks woots, now I want the thing even more! I really just want Blu Ray for the Disney movies that I miss so much.

turbe - No one knows how significant the chip numbers or revisions are yet. My feeling is that if your receiver is working properly and doing everything that you ask of it - keep it. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Who knows, the next set of chip numbers may be a disaster in the making. Look at the Samsung BDP-1400 - the lastest firmware allowed it to have the receiver do the decoding for Dolby True HD. Now, users report that SD-DVDs don't play properly. Firmware upgrades can be a blessing or curse! It's the luck of the draw!;)

I know about these things, I'm the type that doesn't want to first few versions of the firmware of a new product unless a Company has a clear path for getting the updates. IMO your statement applies more to an established product.

With my previous Denon 5600, I was able to at least pay Denon to do a Firmware upgrade to get their latest firmware.



.S

Hey woots: I just ordered this one http://www.buyextras.com/evavcoblfanf.html
lets see how it helps

It keeps mine in the mid 90's



.S

My 2 cents is that the Sony PS3 Blu-ray player is the best bang for your buck for now and the next 3 or 4 years its HDMI 1.3 and had TruHD and DTSHD which is decoded in PCM and its upgradable. The surround sound is awesome and the PQ is amazing. I cant see how PQ will get any better then 1080p. So i suggest just get the PS3 40, 60 or 80 gig and use that for the next 3 years by then you will wnat the new 3D tv's that are coming out or the new 2160p tv's. Gotta love technology. I dont understand what some of you guys are expecting out of these Blu-ray players but u cant cant better then 1080p now and for the next 3 or 4 years at least. So the Sony PS3 40gig out in 10/30/07 for $400 is the best bet, plus you can play games (demos for free), use the internet browser and online gaming is free. cant beat that deal. I personally have PS3 60gig using it via HDMI on my Pioneer 5070 which is a 720p/1080i plasma and capable of receiving and displaying a 1080p/24 signal which is what i get from the PS3 and when i play a movie via PS3 it even says 1080p on top right corner of screen, which is pretty kool for a only a 720p/1080i tv. TGIF.

Thanks woots, now I want the thing even more! I really just want Blu Ray for the Disney movies that I miss so much.

Ya i noticed Sony is pushing blu ray "Disney" hardcore right now.. they know its there primary selling point at this stage especially as christmas holiday approaches.

Sony got screwed with no grand theft auto 4 before Christmas.. which could have possibly helped boost ps3 sales for the holidays. (i know its coming out for xbox too, but still consoles live and die on big title games and lets face it.. ps3 has non "yet".. that would have been the 1st.. and heavenly sword was more hype then anything)

I was wondering why I had been seeing so many hd dvd commercials in last few months and not blu ray I thought it was a dumb marketing mistake.. but its clear to me now.. sony was saving its duckets and plans on hammering consumers endless for the next 2 months with commercials galore. will be interesting to see which hd format pulls ahead over the holiday season.

You can also use the ps3 joystick to control blu ray like I do, and free game demos are awesome. I only own 2 games and after GH3 I probably won't buy any more. It is definetly a movie player first for me, but I watch way more HD DVD's so the remote isn't that big a deal in my case.

It keeps mine in the mid 90's


How much space do you have above your receiver? What volume do you play your receiver at normally?

That remote issue is the reason I didn't buy a PS3 as a Blu-Ray player. I've worked hard to get our remote count down to 1. Keep it simple...

I use the controller as my remote for the PS3 Blu-ray player and i dont have any problems with it, i think its very easy to use. I got the hang of it after like 4 movies. I can change audio and video option while watching a movie and even go to the menu while movie is playing and do watever i want its very simple now. I dont see what the problem is using the controller as a remote. ;)

I have a very itchy trigger finger right now. It's a good thing that 40G PS3 is still a week away or I would buy one on my lunch hour. I really want a Blu Ray player and having the option to play games is nice although I'm a 360 guy.

I had the same itchy trigger finger you had. I used to be a xbox 360 only guy, but ever since I got my PS3 60gig via Craigslist.org for very cheap ($450) including 3 movies and extra controller and HDMI cable I love it. PQ is great, sound is great and now when a game or Blu-ray movie comes out for the PS3 exclusively (and this will happen) I dont have to worry no more. So pull that itchy trigger finger today and cop that PS3 bro and you will be a 360/PS3 fanboy forever. :D

I had the same itchy trigger finger you had. I used to be a xbox 360 only guy, but ever since I got my PS3 60gig via Craigslist.org for very cheap ($450) including 3 movies and extra controller and HDMI cable I love it. PQ is great, sound is great and now when a game or Blu-ray movie comes out for the PS3 exclusively (and this will happen) I dont have to worry no more. So pull that itchy trigger finger today and cop that PS3 bro and you will be a 360/PS3 fanboy forever. :D

Man, I have a Walmart, BestBuy and CC all within 2 miles of my work here. I could walk out with one during lunch time but I must be strong! Dammit! I am so weak!!!! :eek: :mad:

Man, I have a Walmart, BestBuy and CC all within 2 miles of my work here. I could walk out with one during lunch time but I must be strong! Dammit! I am so weak!!!! :eek: :mad:

Go for it, its about lunch time now too and you can be walking back to ur office with the briefcase style PS3 box with everyone staring at your with envy. lol. :)

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Man, I have a Walmart, BestBuy and CC all within 2 miles of my work here. I could walk out with one during lunch time but I must be strong! Dammit! I am so weak!!!! :eek: :mad:

What a great night to open some brand new Blu-ray disks, pop em in the brand new PS3, turn on that super 705, kick back and grin for hours. No "what did I do" hangovers til morning.

It keeps mine in the mid 90's

.S

Wow really, thats very good, you got the same one i just ordered? Also how quiet/loud is it?

And like woots asked how much space to you have above it and how long were u running it when it read 90?

Mine reads 123/125 after 5 hours running time.

I thinking about purchasing a Subwoofer this weekend and I need to know that in order for me to connect a sub to the 705 all I need one digital coaxial Audio RCA cable? and/or do I need to run the FL, FR and Cntr speaker wires to the sub and from the sub to the 705?? Anyone know about this here?. Thanks

I thinking about purchasing a Subwoofer this weekend and I need to know that in order for me to connect a sub to the 705 all I need one digital coaxial Audio RCA cable? and/or do I need to run the FL, FR and Cntr speaker wires to the sub and from the sub to the 705?? Anyone know about this here?. Thanks

I am using just one digital coaxial Audio RCA cable from 705 to the kef subwoofer.

I am using just one digital coaxial Audio RCA cable from 705 to the kef subwoofer.

Oh ok thanks, so then thats all i need ok, b/c the last sub I had I was running it with speaker wires to the sub then back to the receiver, I didnt know i could use one coaxial Audio RCA cable only. That makes it a lot easier and less wire mess. Is everyone else using only the Coaxial Cable on the sub?

Wow page 99 already, lets make 100 by midnight.

HDMI and sources with digital audio connections work great, but I have a Wii connected to the 705 with component for video, and left/right analog for audio. Is it possible to get the Wii's audio to output from the digital optical out? I noticed the manual says digital inputs will not be output to the analog, but what about the other way around?

My monitor out is HDMI, but it's a projector, so I would like all of my audio to be output from the 705 through digital optical if possible. I have a weird temporary setup -- i'm still in the process of researching/buying a suitable set of speakers to directly connect to the receiver, so the digital out from the 705 is currently going to a 5.1 PC speaker system (where the speakers connect to the sub/amp combo with standard RCA plugs). Hopefully in a few weeks this will all be replaced and I won't have to worry about it, but I just want it working in the meantime.

Thanks for any help.

Do I/we need a new HDMI 1.3a cable to take advantage of TruHD or DTS HD sound or can i use any basic HDMI 1.2 cable? does it matter?

I ask because on monoprice.com they selling a HDMI 1.3a cable, im confused. See link below.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024006&p_id=3663&seq=1&format=2

I use a regular RCA cable for my sub. Its about 20 ft long and I have no problems with it. Your gear will not know the difference between a 1.2 and 1.3a HDMI cable, just make sure it is a decent gage for the length you are running. I am using the fattest one (22 gage) to run 35 feet and have no problems at all. I would have got the 24 gage one but they were out of stock at the time. If you already have a cable try it out. If you get sparklies buy the 1.3 one, it doesn't cost much more.

Do I/we need a new HDMI 1.3a cable to take advantage of TruHD or DTS HD sound or can i use any basic HDMI 1.2 cable? does it matter?

I ask because on monoprice.com they selling a HDMI 1.3a cable, im confused. See link below.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024006&p_id=3663&seq=1&format=2

I use about three year old Monster Cables. I do not believe they are 1.3a. I am able to take advantage of both of those audio codecs with both my BDP-1400 blu-ray player and A-35 HD-DVD player. So I would say no you can probably use any HDMI cable.

Do I/we need a new HDMI 1.3a cable to take advantage of TruHD or DTS HD sound or can i use any basic HDMI 1.2 cable? does it matter?

I ask because on monoprice.com they selling a HDMI 1.3a cable, im confused. See link below.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024006&p_id=3663&seq=1&format=2

Uptown193 - Buy the Monoprice 1.2 cables and for the current life of the equipment you have now, you'll be fine. I think the alleged benefits of 1.3a cables are vastly overblown. By the time any real advantages of 1.3a materialize, they'll be the same price as the 1.2 cables are now. Remember when USB 2.0 came out and the guys at the big box stores said you had to have a new USB 2.0 cable to utilize it? B*llsh*t! Save your money for that next big new toy!:)

I got the 6ft. HDMI cables from Monoprice.com. Only later did I notice that they were 1.3a "compliant". So, maybe it will mean something later but it certainly was not what made be choose those. They were only like $4.75/each.

[/QUOTE=dropzone7;12022456]I got the 6ft. HDMI cables from Monoprice.com. Only later did I notice that they were 1.3a "compliant". So, maybe it will mean something later but it certainly was not what made be choose those. They were only like $4.75/each.[/QUOTE]

dropzone7 - You can't go wrong with the stuff from Monoprice. Excellent quality for the price. 1.3a compliant cables for $4.75 sound good enough for me. If it doesn't keep raining in our area like it has in the last few days, Monoprice cables will be the only things electronic we can afford to buy after we pay the water bill!:eek:

[/QUOTE=dropzone7;12022456]I got the 6ft. HDMI cables from Monoprice.com. Only later did I notice that they were 1.3a "compliant". So, maybe it will mean something later but it certainly was not what made be choose those. They were only like $4.75/each.

dropzone7 - You can't go wrong with the stuff from Monoprice. Excellent quality for the price. 1.3a compliant cables for $4.75 sound good enough for me. If it doesn't keep raining in our area like it has in the last few days, Monoprice cables will be the only things electronic we can afford to buy after we pay the water bill!:eek:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I have been very happy with everything I have purchased from Monoprice.com including the 4-1 HDMI switcher I needed to make my 705 work with an HDFURY device to my CRT projector. Great prices, quick shipping and quality stuff from what I have seen.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSES EVERYONE MUCH APPRECIATED.

P.S. The great benefits of being a City Dweller, no water or trash pick up bill not to mention property taxes and landscaping bills. :p

looks like new sony eyetoy thing for ps3 is coming out now
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Accessories/SCPH-98047?EMC-HWSWNo&ATTR=PSU/GAP_PSEyeEM_P001_PS3_DSC_001_Accessories_H

looks like new sony eyetoy thing for ps3 is coming out now
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Accessories/SCPH-98047?EMC-HWSWNo&ATTR=PSU/GAP_PSEyeEM_P001_PS3_DSC_001_Accessories_H

wow that looks nice i wonder how much thats going to cost.

HDMI and sources with digital audio connections work great, but I have a Wii connected to the 705 with component for video, and left/right analog for audio. Is it possible to get the Wii's audio to output from the digital optical out? I noticed the manual says digital inputs will not be output to the analog, but what about the other way around?No

wow that looks nice i wonder how much thats going to cost.

its actually for sale now 40 bucks at ebgames/gamestop

some of those games for that camera look really cool.. i may pick this thing up.. i think all they got out for it now is the eye of judgement game which is like one of those pokemon card games come to life... not my thing... but the concept is cool.

I think this camera will be more popular then the eyetoy was for ps2... especially now since wii concept is so popular people like jumping around like they are crazy when they play video games :D

its actually for sale now 40 bucks at ebgames/gamestop

oh not bad price considering from what it can do in the video i saw. To bad i play 360 live more.

oh not bad price considering from what it can do in the video i saw. To bad i play 360 live more.

Last post on this topic in this receiver thread.. but here ya go.

I got the low down on the game names and videos comin out for this new ps3 eyetoy.. took a bit of hunting since a majority of this stuff isnt out yet.

Operation Creature Feature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HCGwYzeAdw

The Trials of Topoq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwLEdlcv0C0&NR=1

Aqua Vita (this looks realistic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN2ir9aHCqk

Last post on this topic in this receiver thread.. but here ya go.

I got the low down on the game names and videos comin out for this new ps3 eyetoy.. took a bit of hunting since a majority of this stuff isnt out yet.

Operation Creature Feature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HCGwYzeAdw

The Trials of Topoq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwLEdlcv0C0&NR=1

Aqua Vita (this looks realistic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN2ir9aHCqk

ok kool ima take a look at that. Yea i like the concept also. More money to spend, yeaah...

I'm about to the order the 705 and have a few questions I want to get answers for.

Does the voice lag I've been reading about only effect TV or does it do it with movies too? I will be using HDMI from the HDDVD player to the 705 and HDMI to the TV.

My HD Cable box is actually DVI (Charter Cable). What is the best way to hook up the audio?

Thanks!!!1

I'm about to the order the 705 and have a few questions I want to get answers for.

Does the voice lag I've been reading about only effect TV or does it do it with movies too? I will be using HDMI from the HDDVD player to the 705 and HDMI to the TV.

My HD Cable box is actually DVI (Charter Cable). What is the best way to hook up the audio?

Thanks!!!1

My cable box is hooked via optical or digital as on the 705. I haven't had any issues with the voice lag so I couldn't tell you there.

I'm about to the order the 705 and have a few questions I want to get answers for.

Does the voice lag I've been reading about only effect TV or does it do it with movies too? I will be using HDMI from the HDDVD player to the 705 and HDMI to the TV.

My HD Cable box is actually DVI (Charter Cable). What is the best way to hook up the audio?

Thanks!!!1

people have reported it through all inputs into this receiver optical, rca and hdmi. I used optical off my xbox 360 pro.. and I had lag initially, but it was easily tweakable.

The lag also can be seen via tv, movies, gaming consoles (no matter the input type).

Sources like movies if you tweak them perfect.. they remain consistently perfect no matter the movie (odd things I have come to notice). However, with tv various channels lag more or less or not at all.....With gaming consoles its the same thing.. more or less or no lag at all. Although Tv gives people (myself to) the most laggy grief. I am not sure why game consoles don't stay consistent sound timing wise like movies.. i would think logically speaking games would be the most consistent since the sound is programmed to be timed perfectly with an event.. so there wouldn't be any time shift... i think where i notice it the most is animated character who are lip sync animated to dialog.. i have tweaked it to lip sync perfect then play another game with another lip sync character and its off.. this has to say the game lip sync is off and the receiver just seems to emphasize it more. which is also the same problem with TV.

Simple Answer after you tweak the timing for each source:
Movies end up perfect (dvd, blu ray, hd dvd)
Games are a mix but near perfect (xbox 360, ps3)
TV is a bad mixed bag of tricks thats crosses the whole gambit channel to channel. (usually only have these problems on HD channels via HDMI)

I thinking about purchasing a Subwoofer this weekend and I need to know that in order for me to connect a sub to the 705 all I need one digital coaxial Audio RCA cable? and/or do I need to run the FL, FR and Cntr speaker wires to the sub and from the sub to the 705?? Anyone know about this here?. Thanks

I'm using this one, http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=189-300 pretty good price!

Oh ok thanks, so then thats all i need ok, b/c the last sub I had I was running it with speaker wires to the sub then back to the receiver, I didnt know i could use one coaxial Audio RCA cable only. That makes it a lot easier and less wire mess. Is everyone else using only the Coaxial Cable on the sub?

Wow page 99 already, lets make 100 by midnight.

Same here. Only one audio cable to sub.

Do I/we need a new HDMI 1.3a cable to take advantage of TruHD or DTS HD sound or can i use any basic HDMI 1.2 cable? does it matter?

I ask because on monoprice.com they selling a HDMI 1.3a cable, im confused. See link below.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024006&p_id=3663&seq=1&format=2

You just need a device that outputs raw bitstream one of the newer hd dvd players or newer stand alone blu ray players... otherwise... you wont be gettin true hd and dts hd to decode on your receiver.

Playstation 3 decodes those formats inside the player (infact you cant get dts hd ma on the playstation 3 so it downgrades that format... ps3 does decode true hd inside though, then outputs it via PCM.. dts hd ma for our ps3 is coming soon(Christmas i read, maybe later)... again it will only decode dts hd ma inside) the reason ps3 doesnt output to the receiver these formats is cause the SI vastlane chipset it uses is one of the earliest in the series and doesn't support the newer streaming Hd codec to receivers.. kinda a draft spec of hdmi 1.3 since it was the 1st 1.3 kid on the block. You xbox hd dvd player also will not send raw bistream codecs to your receiver. (which is why i didnt buy the hd dvd player for my 360) For both formats you will need the latest greatest stand alones to do this...

The samsung 5000 dual format player will allow this.. hopefully blu ray 1.1 profile wont nerf this on blu ray side. It will be 1 unit ... and do what you want.. upscale very sexy... and look and sound great.. (at least going by the specs) i think its gonna be 800 bucks price range.

(by the way I bought that 1.3a cable when it 1st came out from monoprice... its got a slimmer connector on it then the other ones before it from monoprice.. [less weight on the back of the TV hdmi socket.])

Oh ok thanks, so then thats all i need ok, b/c the last sub I had I was running it with speaker wires to the sub then back to the receiver, I didnt know i could use one coaxial Audio RCA cable only. That makes it a lot easier and less wire mess. Is everyone else using only the Coaxial Cable on the sub?

Wow page 99 already, lets make 100 by midnight.

I am using 1 digital coax from monoprice also.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10236&cs_id=1023602&p_id=2682&seq=1&format=1#largeimage

BTW: on the post count topic

It really shows you how much newer the 705 is to the onkyo product line (last one to come out) .. cause we are the smallest in posts (not cause its less popular) only cause its way newer. We are starting to get there in numbers now though slowly.

Wow page 99 already, lets make 100 by midnight.

Just change the number of posts per page in your UserCP settings and you'll be way over 100 pages instantaneously. ;)

[Moral of the story: "page counts" aren't the same for everyone]

I'm using this one, http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=189-300 pretty good price!

I was using that same cable until about a week ago. Only changed because I needed a longer one. Picked out a 25 footer from Part Express for about $14 and it's working great. Monoprice and Parts Express have been my two favorite places to order from lately. :)

Just change the number of posts per page in your UserCP settings and you'll be way over 100 pages instantaneously. ;)

[Moral of the story: "page counts" aren't the same for everyone]

you sure about that why would the page numbers be different for each other?

you sure about that why would the page numbers be different for each other?

I have my prefs set to "Display 20 posts per page." If you have yours set to, say, 10 posts per page, then you'll have twice as many pages as I will. Alternately, imagine that you have your settings at "Display 50 posts per page." I leave the necessary calculations up to the reader. ;)

I am using 1 digital coax from monoprice also.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10236&cs_id=1023602&p_id=2682&seq=1&format=1#largeimage

BTW: on the post count topic

It really shows you how much newer the 705 is to the onkyo product line (last one to come out) .. cause we are the smallest in posts (not cause its less popular) only cause its way newer. We are starting to get there in numbers now though slowly.

You can add one more owner in about an hour after I pick mine up.:)

I have my prefs set to "Display 20 posts per page." If you have yours set to, say, 10 posts per page, then you'll have twice as many pages as I will. Alternately, imagine that you have your settings at "Display 50 posts per page." I leave the necessary calculations up to the reader. ;)

ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhh now i see, i got you.

I'm debating between the 705/805 and have a question I can't find a solid answer for. On the Onkyo website, it says;

"The TX-SR705 can also upconvert analog signals to HDMI so that all connected video sources can be outputted via one cable"

When a signal is upconverted from analog to digital over the HDMI, what resolution does it upconvert to??? Is it 1080p? If not, will my PS3's 1080p output pass through?

I'm debating between the 705/805 and have a question I can't find a solid answer for. On the Onkyo website, it says;

"The TX-SR705 can also upconvert analog signals to HDMI so that all connected video sources can be outputted via one cable"

When a signal is upconverted from analog to digital over the HDMI, what resolution does it upconvert to??? Is it 1080p? If not, will my PS3's 1080p output pass through?

When its same connection type in and out from this receiver whatever you put in is what your get out...
hdmi 1080p in = hdmi 1080p out
component 1080p in component 1080p out
.. so pass through is flawless.

However, when you go from one source input type and convert it to another via this receiver .. it WONT get upscaled to 1080p EVEN if the originating source is 1080p. For example... 1080p component in = 720p hdmi out .... (a maximum of 720p) i say maximum of cause you need to go to secret settings to even force it into 720p otherwise it goes 420p.

The 705 and 805 both behave identical in this regard when it comes to upconverting one signal type to another you will get downconverted to 720p or lower on both models! If you want true 1080p upscaling from any input to any output you need to look at the Onkyo 905 (For that price be sure to explore all your options .. since other receivers have hit market offering things competitive at that higher price range)

Hope it helps!

Woots, it's almost 3am and you rattle this stuff off like it's nothing. I don't even know why I'm still awake!

Finally got my 705 hooked up tonight. I'll focus on video for now. HDMI passthrough works great and no handshaking issues between the HD-A1 or PS3. Thumbs up there.

The fun ends there though. The forced scaling from component to HDMI and then it going from 720p to 1366x768 on my Pioneer 5070, wrecks hell on the picture. The text is screwed up. Lots of shimmering/crawling. In short it's a mess. The 2 sources in question being a 360 and Comcast DVR.

I'm going to try and hook up component out and hope Woots above me is right and my component signals will act as passthrough over component. So far, it's a disaster. The option to bypass scaling would be greatly appreciated but likely, that ship has sailed.......

Just an update. I posted last week about a hum in my subwoofer that went away when switching to Pure Audio mode. I exchanged my 705 yesterday for an 805 and the hum is completely gone in all modes. Exact same set-up except for the receiver. Perfect silence even at high volume levels. I think this is now proof positive that the DSP circuit was causing the noise as many people were suggesting. So my suggestions to anyone who is having this problem is to not put up with the problem but exchange the unit for another one or if you can afford it move up to the 805. I am not sure if this problem is exclusive to the 705 but after browsing the 805 thread I didn't seem to find anything about it there.

How much space do you have above your receiver? What volume do you play your receiver at normally?

I had moved the shelf above even higher, so now I have nearly 7 inches.

Volume? from 56 to 73/75 volume (depending if we are watching a movie or not). Last night we watched Black Christmas HD using the TrueHD track (crappy movie BTW) and for some reason I had to turn the volume up to 83-87 the whole move to hear the dialog..... must have been mixed that way.... At those levels, my temp at the end of the movie was 106 degrees.

I am using just one digital coaxial Audio RCA cable from 705 to the kef subwoofer.

What sub do you have and where do you have it located in the room. Also what other speakers do you have. I am also looking at upgrading my speakers and will do so a bit at a time starting with the subwoofer.

Lonesomedave

What sub do you have and where do you have it located in the room. Also what other speakers do you have. I am also looking at upgrading my speakers and will do so a bit at a time starting with the subwoofer.

Lonesomedave

subwoofer-PSW 2150 and kef 2005.2 speaker system. Got the whole package for 499 from CC, woots bought the higher end in kef 3005.2 for 1499. That might be even better,but only 1k more.

I had moved the shelf above even higher, so now I have nearly 7 inches.

Volume? from 56 to 73/75 volume (depending if we are watching a movie or not). Last night we watched Black Christmas HD using the TrueHD track (crappy movie BTW) and for some reason I had to turn the volume up to 83-87 the whole move to hear the dialog..... must have been mixed that way.... At those levels, my temp at the end of the movie was 106 degrees.

I may not be able to speak for the temperature. But you may consider increasing the "intellivolume" of the source to 8 DB (12DB). This feature by deafult is set to 0 DB. When you increase it to higher level, it well help the source volume to increase and on the actually receiver volume you may ending up going slighly low on the volumes. I tried this option and it works great for me.

In the Auto calibration results why are speakers set so low? Mine came out as such:

FL = -3 (Paradigm Monitor 7)
Center = -9 (Paradigm CC370)
FR = - 2 (Paradigm Monitor 7)
Both surrounds = -6 (Paradigm ADP 370)
Sub = -15 (Paradigm PW2100)

This is for the bedroom which measures 14x12 with 9ft ceiling. Calibration point was center of the bed by the headrest.

The distances were set properly except for sub which is in line with the FL,C,FR. Those 3 came out came out to 10.5,10,10.5ft but the sub came out at 6.5ft?

The speaker settings came out at

Fronts = full band
Center = 70
Surrounds = full band
Double Bass = Yes

As you can imagnine this was too much! watching a HD DVD or LOTR:Fellowship just was sooo harsh. So I set the speakers to 80hz all around, crossover at 80. I also turned off the Audessy EQ which seems to have helped.

If you're still awake! my question is why are the levels set so low? Right now I have to crank my volume below -15 to get a decent level of audio. Below -9 and things get very harsh. The sounds goes from smooth and warm to sharp and harsh. Should I reset the levels manually by using the Center (-9) as my base but keep the delta's? Meaning FR would be +7, FL +6, etc....etc...? Or should I just bump up the "intellivolume" to +9 and call it day? I know I should experiment on my own and have been but some opinions would greatly appreciated.

In the Auto calibration results why are speakers set so low? Mine came out as such:

FL = -3 (Paradigm Monitor 7)
Center = -9 (Paradigm CC370)
FR = - 2 (Paradigm Monitor 7)
Both surrounds = -6 (Paradigm ADP 370)
Sub = -15 (Paradigm PW2100)

This is for the bedroom which measures 14x12 with 9ft ceiling. Calibration point was center of the bed by the headrest.

The distances were set properly except for sub which is in line with the FL,C,FR. Those 3 came out came out to 10.5,10,10.5ft but the sub came out at 6.5ft?

The speaker settings came out at

Fronts = full band
Center = 70
Surrounds = full band
Double Bass = Yes

As you can imagnine this was too much! watching a HD DVD or LOTR:Fellowship just was sooo harsh. So I set the speakers to 80hz all around, crossover at 80. I also turned off the Audessy EQ which seems to have helped.

If you're still awake! my question is why are the levels set so low? Right now I have to crank my volume below -15 to get a decent level of audio. Below -9 and things get very harsh. The sounds goes from smooth and warm to sharp and harsh. Should I reset the levels manually by using the Center (-9) as my base but keep the delta's? Meaning FR would be +7, FL +6, etc....etc...? Or should I just bump up the "intellivolume" to +9 and call it day? I know I should experiment on my own and have been but some opinions would greatly appreciated.

RobertR1
Be patient! Our resident expert on this topic is Jeremy Anderson. I'm hopeful he will get to you soon.

I may not be able to speak for the temperature. But you may consider increasing the "intellivolume" of the source to 8 DB (12DB). This feature by deafult is set to 0 DB. When you increase it to higher level, it well help the source volume to increase and on the actually receiver volume you may ending up going slighly low on the volumes. I tried this option and it works great for me.


I've played with that before... but it happened only with that one movie, Dialog is lower in the movie.

In the Auto calibration results why are speakers set so low? Mine came out as such:

FL = -3 (Paradigm Monitor 7)
Center = -9 (Paradigm CC370)
FR = - 2 (Paradigm Monitor 7)
Both surrounds = -6 (Paradigm ADP 370)
Sub = -15 (Paradigm PW2100)

This is for the bedroom which measures 14x12 with 9ft ceiling. Calibration point was center of the bed by the headrest.

The distances were set properly except for sub which is in line with the FL,C,FR. Those 3 came out came out to 10.5,10,10.5ft but the sub came out at 6.5ft?

The speaker settings came out at

Fronts = full band
Center = 70
Surrounds = full band
Double Bass = Yes

As you can imagnine this was too much! watching a HD DVD or LOTR:Fellowship just was sooo harsh. So I set the speakers to 80hz all around, crossover at 80. I also turned off the Audessy EQ which seems to have helped.

If you're still awake! my question is why are the levels set so low? Right now I have to crank my volume below -15 to get a decent level of audio. Below -9 and things get very harsh. The sounds goes from smooth and warm to sharp and harsh. Should I reset the levels manually by using the Center (-9) as my base but keep the delta's? Meaning FR would be +7, FL +6, etc....etc...? Or should I just bump up the "intellivolume" to +9 and call it day? I know I should experiment on my own and have been but some opinions would greatly appreciated.

The numbers are coming out that low because it's trying to set the channels to a specific level, such that 0 on the relative scale equals reference level (i.e. 105dB peak from each channel, 115dB peak from sub). The smaller the room (or closer the speakers), the lower those numbers will be. If you don't necessarily care that 0 equals reference level (or if you're using the absolute volume scale), you can bump the channel trims up to get them closer to 0. Given the extreme trim on your sub, you might dial the gain on the sub down a bit before rerunning Audyssey so that its level comes up on the 705 (especially if your sub has an auto-on feature, since that low a trim might prevent the subwoofer line out from maintaining a high enough level when in use to trigger the sub).

Here's one problem: If you're calibrating with the mic A) near the wall, since I'm assuming your bed is near the wall, and B) near the headboard, you're making it difficult for Audyssey to do its thing. Make sure that the mic is AT LEAST a foot or so from the wall/headboard, and if possible put the mic slightly above the headboard on a tripod to prevent reflections from affecting the reading (especially if it is a wooden headboard).

The 705 does have an issue with detecting the true capability of speakers, so after re-running Audyssey (and I strongly recommend you do at least 6 positions with the mic, with the last three about a foot closer toward the front speakers), set the crossover for each about 20Hz above their lowest extension. In the case of your speakers, I'd use 70 for the Monitor 7s, 70 for the CC370, and 80 for the surrounds. Set LFE crossover to 120 so you aren't unnecessarily removing audio in the LFE channel; this crossover does not affect redirected bass from the other channels.

You'll want to run Audyssey with the mic a bit further into the room than where you listening position might be so that you give the EQ'ing a chance, but then you can readjust to physical distance from your main listening position afterwards. In fact, if you're really super anal, I recommend using Digital Video Essentials to tweak, which has a series of 6.1 tones placed in between each channel... which lets you tweak distance settings up and down until you hear the tone appear to emanate solidly from the space in between the speakers. This will give you more solid cross-channel imaging than physical distance often does.

As far as subwoofer distance goes, Audyssey makes this adjustment based on more than just a simple pinging of the speaker. Things such as crossover circuitry on the subwoofer amp itself, phase issues, etc. can make the optimal distance setting vastly different from its physical distance. Before running Audyssey, disable any crossover on the subwoofer or turn it to its maximum setting to reduce the possibility of delay. Also, if you're consistently getting that low a distance from Audyssey, try reversing the phase switch on your sub and re-running it. Subwoofer distance controls effectively act like a variable phase control, meaning Audyssey may use the lowered distance to ensure that the sound from the sub is arriving at the listening position at the same time as sound from your other speakers. Also, putting the mic too close to the wall on the initial reading can throw off the distance setting, since you're essentially putting the mic in a position prone to reflection (so it can't differentiate the first impulse from the reflections).

Now, even after all of this, you may still not like the effect that Audyssey EQ'ing has... but at least you're giving it a chance. And even if you turn it off, you should get a better overall sound.

Did I cover everything? :D

However, when you go from one source input type and convert it to another via this receiver .. it WONT get upscaled to 1080p EVEN if the originating source is 1080p. For example... 1080p component in = 720p hdmi out .... (a maximum of 720p) i say maximum of cause you need to go to secret settings to even force it into 720p otherwise it goes 420p.



What are these secret settings you speak of?

I have a question if im watching a BD on PS3 and the back cover of says DTS HD 5.1 MA lossless I should set my PS3 to Bitstream and when it read TrueHD I should set it to PCM, correct me if im wrong and advise. Thank you. This is very confusing.

Before I setup I have been reading the manual. Everything seems straight forward and there is plenty of good advice here. Do I need to use banana plugs? If so, what brand? where is the cheapest place to get them? Do I need them for the receiver and each speaker? I have a HD DVD player and cable HD box only (DVI out), do the HDMI cables need to be the same length? I have to place the receiver off to the right of the TV. I will need two in around 3-4 foot and the one out will need to be six foot. Will this be a problem? I thought I read on here something about equal cable lengths. I going to order two cables from Mono Price so I won't be setting it until later this week. Any advice you have for the initial setup please share.

Woots, it's almost 3am and you rattle this stuff off like it's nothing. I don't even know why I'm still awake!

lol ya i was up late... dont know when i crashed.. prolly shortly after that post. :)

woots, do u have answer to my last post?

I have a question if im watching a BD on PS3 and the back cover of says DTS HD 5.1 MA lossless I should set my PS3 to Bitstream and when it read TrueHD I should set it to PCM, correct me if im wrong and advise. Thank you. This is very confusing.

When you have DTS HD MA movies and you switch to bitstream you will likely see the DTS light pop on in the receiver (not dts hd ma light.. just normal dts). I really don't have a rule as far as when i play a DTS HD MA movie go to bitstream.. However, I DO tend to think for that particular format it does tend to sound better in bitstream. (i get better surround separation but less clarity and volume.. its a weird trade off)

True HD definitely stay in PCM though.... and once we get our DTS HA MA patch this Christmas (or hopefully near Christmas) we just stay in PCM forever.

So i know this isnt totally what u wanna hear.. but you chose bitsream/pcm for dts hd ma for now.. until we get that firmware (do whatever sounds best to your ears... if you can tell the difference dont bother)... otherwise.. stay in PCM at all times.

What are these secret settings you speak of?

1. Hold down the Aux button on the front panel of the receiver.
2. While holding down Aux, press Power.
3. The LED display should read "Resolution: Auto." Use the directional controls to the right of the display to change to 720p

Hello guys,

Is there a way to deactivate the upscale of the 705?

My DVD player is connected to the 705 through hdmi, I want the 705 to send the signal on the hdmi output in 480i (without upscalling it to 720p), is it possible to do that? Should I use the secret menu?

I have a Mitsu HC5000 with a HQV and I don't want to use the 705 scaler...

Hello guys,

Is there a way to deactivate the upscale of the 705?

My DVD player is connected to the 705 through hdmi, I want the 705 to send the signal on the hdmi output in 480i (without upscalling it to 720p), is it possible to do that? Should I use the secret menu?

I have a Mitsu HC5000 with a HQV and I don't want to use the 705 scaler...scaling only occurs when input sources are converted to HDMI (eg component/svideo/composite in, to HDMI out). So in your case, HDMI in from the DVD player is passed through to HDMI out, without any scaling, so it can already do what you want

Monoprice also has very cheap banana plugs - I used them for the receiver and for the speakers, but you don't HAVE to use them on either. Monoprice also has great prices on all the cabling you need. While I am not sure about cable lengths, the general rule seems to be to keep them as short as possible.

This is the one I am using here http://www.buyextras.com/vastulqu12dc.html


Lemme know the temp drop you see when you get yours I get 20 on average, degrees of temp drop, 22 on occasion.

I guess you are putting the fan on top of the receiver. I am thinking of putting one more of this fan on the plasma tv. so question, can i hook it up on the wall behind the plasmatv , does this fan have any hole for it to be supported by a push pin to the wall, or since i am trying to put the fan vertically/parallel to the TV, i may have to "tie" the fan to the back of the tv, on the top, where there is some opening on the tv for the air to come out.
Any ideas?? Right now i have 2 small fans behind the plasma, supported by push pins, but these fans make some sound, and they were only 5-6 dollars from target. Hearing that these fans are super,duper quiet, even though costly(to me), i am inclining to buy 2 , if i can use this fan behind the plasma panel also. I have 1 feet of open space between my plasma and the wall.

ideas??

1. Hold down the Aux button on the front panel of the receiver.
2. While holding down Aux, press Power.
3. The LED display should read "Resolution: Auto." Use the directional controls to the right of the display to change to 720p

I tired this 3 days back and worked like a charm. since then i had a question/doubt. If some of you guys have a 720p or 1080p plasma/lcd, isn't the tv upconversion better than the receivers?? what i mean is let the receiver pass what it can, and the higher end tv do its part of the job?? rather than the receiver upconvert to 720p and the 720p plasma not do anything??(not sure how this works??) confused/curious....

When you have DTS HD MA movies and you switch to bitstream you will likely see the DTS light pop on in the receiver (not dts hd ma light.. just normal dts). I really don't have a rule as far as when i play a DTS HD MA movie go to bitstream.. However, I DO tend to think for that particular format it does tend to sound better in bitstream. (i get better surround separation but less clarity and volume.. its a weird trade off)

True HD definitely stay in PCM though.... and once we get our DTS HA MA patch this Christmas (or hopefully near Christmas) we just stay in PCM forever.

So i know this isnt totally what u wanna hear.. but you chose bitsream/pcm for dts hd ma for now.. until we get that firmware (do whatever sounds best to your ears... if you can tell the difference dont bother)... otherwise.. stay in PCM at all times.


I'll throw out my preference, just cause I feel like typing....I actually leave mine on bitstream for everything except if I find a nice TrueHD track and then I quickly switch to PCM while the movie is starting (triangle, a/v options, audio output...). I like the bitstreaming of everything I can (basically just Dolby and DTS cores with the PS3). I also can't wait for DTSHD-MA IF it comes and then maybe I will go back to using LPCM mode all the time because almost all the BDs I own (I only have 5) have either dtshd-ma (KOH, Transporter) or TrueHD (300). Then Casino Royale has PCM and T2 has 5.1 DTS or an EX Dolby, so for this I'd of course use bitstream. I also still watch lots of upconverted DVDs and I always want it on bitstream for these Dolby and DTS tracks. So actually I don't know what setting to leave it on, I just wish the PS3 was smart enough like it used to be when bitstream allowed the TrueHD PCM to pass without switching. Maybe Sony will change this back so that both TrueHD and DTSHD-MA after decoding pass while the option is still set to bitstream. Then leaving it on bitstream all the time would be ideal. Just some random thoughts......

I tired this 3 days back and worked like a charm. since then i had a question/doubt. If some of you guys have a 720p or 1080p plasma/lcd, isn't the tv upconversion better than the receivers?? what i mean is let the receiver pass what it can, and the higher end tv do its part of the job?? rather than the receiver upconvert to 720p and the 720p plasma not do anything??(not sure how this works??) confused/curious....

I agree, the better TVs (couple grand) can do a better job than a $600 receiver in most cases, I think the upscaling is a useless feature for most, and I tried it for my Wii and it didn't look any different whether I sent my Sony A2000 SXRD the 480p vs the 720p through the secret menu. My TV made it 1080p either way and did just as good of a job as the scaler in the 705. This is probably why its still a secret menu. Only the 875/905 with Reon will really be worth it to use for scaling.

I'll throw out my preference, just cause I feel like typing....I actually leave mine on bitstream for everything except if I find a nice TrueHD track and then I quickly switch to PCM while the movie is starting (triangle, a/v options, audio output...). I like the bitstreaming of everything I can (basically just Dolby and DTS cores with the PS3). I also can't wait for DTSHD-MA IF it comes and then maybe I will go back to using LPCM mode all the time because almost all the BDs I own (I only have 5) have either dtshd-ma (KOH, Transporter) or TrueHD (300). Then Casino Royale has PCM and T2 has 5.1 DTS or an EX Dolby, so for this I'd of course use bitstream. I also still watch lots of upconverted DVDs and I always want it on bitstream for these Dolby and DTS tracks. So actually I don't know what setting to leave it on, I just wish the PS3 was smart enough like it used to be when bitstream allowed the TrueHD PCM to pass without switching. Maybe Sony will change this back so that both TrueHD and DTSHD-MA after decoding pass while the option is still set to bitstream. Then leaving it on bitstream all the time would be ideal. Just some random thoughts......

I gotta dig up that link again man.. Sony made a public announcement of their intentions to implement the DTS HD MA on the sony.. it IS coming.. when is the right question.. It alluded to the fact it may come christmas (this was over a month ago i read this) no telling when it comes officially though. Also being that they have DTS HA MA on the sony stand alone players.. based on this with no evidence its just a matter of time for it to come to PS3. I will try to hunt down that link again I tried lookin for it last week and never turned it back up.. I did post the link here on forums over a month ago.. but we got so many posts its crazy.

I tired this 3 days back and worked like a charm. since then i had a question/doubt. If some of you guys have a 720p or 1080p plasma/lcd, isn't the tv upconversion better than the receivers?? what i mean is let the receiver pass what it can, and the higher end tv do its part of the job?? rather than the receiver upconvert to 720p and the 720p plasma not do anything??(not sure how this works??) confused/curious....

I have a Pio 5070 and it has one of the best upscalers in the game so yea i much prefer my Pio to do the upscaling then the receiver. Im guessing the receiver automatically pass through what your have already, i dont think i need to disable the receivers upscaler, correct????

I gotta dig up that link again man.. Sony made a public announcement of their intentions to implement the DTS HD MA on the sony.. it IS coming.. when is the right question.. It alluded to the fact it may come christmas (this was over a month ago i read this) no telling when it comes officially though. Also being that they have DTS HA MA on the sony stand alone players.. based on this with no evidence its just a matter of time for it to come to PS3. I will try to hunt down that link again I tried lookin for it last week and never turned it back up.. I did post the link here on forums over a month ago.. but we got so many posts its crazy.


I've seen the quote and I sure hope its coming, its my only real wish for the PS3. I would be overjoyed with truehd and dtshd-ma bitstreaming but just decoding like TrueHD is now would make me a very happy camper. I'm sure you've seen my post about the 9132 chipset, and I still haven't had anyone reply with any more info proving the 9132 doesn't support bitstreaming (because of hardware), so I don't know if Sony will ever give us bitstreaming but I do believe, just as you do, that decoding for HD-MA will come soon!! I can't friggen wait!!:eek::D