Changing icons is pretty straightforward. There is a great deal of discussion in the Harmony forum at Logitech about the macros. Since your going to hack it, I would like one button macros, to be able to link activities and figure out a way to override the way it handles power on/off. Good luck and God speed.

Hello

I have the Toshiba A2 with the 705 remote that does not work for the A2 ?
Does any one have that code? It does not seem to work with 705 remote .

The 705 is really great value for the price, I have it over 1 month and it is every i expect.

Thanks for your help

Mike

I have the 890, and think it is very cool. It took a while for me to get it setup, because I wanted to do some more complicated things with zwave, until I found it the the 890 could not do it. For zwave, it has only basic functions, for everything else, it seems fine.

It does macros, but only when you start, or leave an activity. Right now, it does not support button macros, but they are supposed to be adding that feature, was supposed to rollout the in July or August, but I guess they are late.

I think hacking will be hard, as all the programming is web based, and you need to go through the logitech website.

There is a good faq on harmony's here
http://forums.logitech.com/logitech/board/message?board.id=general_remotes&thread.id=4975

Randy

I have an Onkyo TX-SR705 on the way so I decided to try to familiarize myself with the unit prior to its' arrival. This is my first 7.1 receiver and currently I only have a 5.1 setup. My question is (for now) which surround connections on the back of the unit do I use for my 5.1 rear surrounds, the "Surround" or "Back Surround" terminals?

Thanks in advance...

I have an Onkyo TX-SR705 on the way so I decided to try to familiarize myself with the unit prior to its' arrival. This is my first 7.1 receiver and currently I only have a 5.1 setup. My question is (for now) which surround do I use for my 5.1 rear surrounds, the "Surround" or "Back Surround"?

Thanks in advance...

The manual is very clear on this, you can get it at onkyo.com, it has a nice chart to show how to set up any combo of speakers. Quick answer, you use "Surround". Back Surround is for the 6.1/7.1. The manual is a good way to waste time till the 705 gets to you!!

Thanks arbitrage000, downloading the manual now...

I'm thinking about buying a 705 rather than moving up the food chain to an 805 or the Denon 3808CI. My main concern is the comments I have read regarding the tendency of Onkyo receivers to run hot. I will be placing the receiver in a BDI Novia 8429 (http://bdiusa.com/avfurniture/novia_8429.shtml) cabinet which has solid wood/glass front doors. The shelves as well as the rear panels do have fairly large ventilation slots. I can adjust the shelves so that there will be 1.5"-2" clearance above the receiver but I am wondering if that will provide sufficient ventilation. Thanks for any and all help!

Royce, I do have the vip-211 but my SD channels don't look very good. Is there a menu I am missing. I only see one for the HD channel output 720p/1080i.

You don't have to select anything special to get the 211 to upconvert SD. Just setting it up for HD output type (HDMI/Component) and resolution (480p/720p/1080i) takes care of that. Unfortunately, results are mixed. Some channels upconvert well, some don't. You'll actually get better overall quality on SD channels by viewing them via S-video. I just stick with the HDMI output so I don't have to switch connections when going from SD to HD and back again.:p

I just picked up a TX-SR705 at Circuit City today. It replaced a Yamaha HTR-5240 that I bought used 7 or 8 years ago. It's fitting into a pretty low-end speaker set up.. a pair of Audio Research tower speakers that I got on sale for $99 each, a few months ago, a decent Polk center, a powered Polk sub, and a pair of dipole surrounds.

I got it hooked up, configured for my components and optimized with Audyssey MultiEQ, and sat down to watch the Casino Royale Blu-Ray on my PS3 using the uncompressed PCM track.

Wow. It was like I'd never heard the soundtrack before, there was so much more crispness and clarity to everything. I don't know how much of that was due to the Onkyo having more power, how much was due to the Audyssey analysis, and how much was due to the PCM track, but I've never heard anything like this before, here.

After running it for several hours, including one and a half viewings of Casino Royale, the top of the Onkyo is warm to the touch, but no more than that. No problem leaving my palm flat on it for as long as I like, though I've had the volume down at -29 dB for the last half hour or so, so that may not mean much. No sign of audio popping so far.

The only negative thing I've found so far is that the component input from my progressive scan DVD player didn't look so hot when sent through to the HDMI output, so I left the HDMI to only handle the PS3 and the video for the DirecTV HD box.

I was originally planning on getting the 605, but Circuit City didn't have any units in stock anywhere near Austin. I'm delighted with the 705, though, and happy that I reached a little bit. Being able to apply the DSP modes to the multichannel PCM inputs is nice, and the backlit remote control is great, though I do have my Harmony configured to control it all as well.

I'm impressed, and am trying not to imagine what this receiver would sound like with some nice mains. ;-)

I'm thinking about buying a 705 rather than moving up the food chain to an 805 or the Denon 3808CI. My main concern is the comments I have read regarding the tendency of Onkyo receivers to run hot. I will be placing the receiver in a BDI Novia 8429 (http://bdiusa.com/avfurniture/novia_8429.shtml) cabinet which has solid wood/glass front doors. The shelves as well as the rear panels do have fairly large ventilation slots. I can adjust the shelves so that there will be 1.5"-2" clearance above the receiver but I am wondering if that will provide sufficient ventilation. Thanks for any and all help!

I have my components in an open stand configuration and I'm not the least bit concerned about the heat issue. The 705 has fans built in and I have yet to measure anything above 135 F which I don't consider hot. YMMV. I would be more concerned, as you are, about an enclosed cabinet and if it was my gear I would look at forced venting the entire cabinet. Any moving air or exhaust would certainly help. Heat is a valid concern but I think its getting way overplayed/overstated. I've had much hotter componentry in the past with no problems.

I have my components in an open stand configuration and I'm not the least bit concerned about the heat issue. The 705 has fans built in and I have yet to measure anything above 135 F which I don't consider hot. YMMV. I would be more concerned, as you are, about an enclosed cabinet and if it was my gear I would look at forced venting the entire cabinet. Any moving air or exhaust would certainly help. Heat is a valid concern but I think its getting way overplayed/overstated. I've had much hotter componentry in the past with no problems.
how much space have you got around your unit mrgribbles? I was a bit worried by the onkyo guide saying 8" is required, so ive actually remomved the shelf from above mine and moved all the components to the stack next to it. Width wise, the 705 only just fits in my entertainment unit, there is plenty of space at the back, but if i were to put the shelf above bak in, there'd be less than 1" of a gap above it. I guess i could try and make some new holes to sit the shelf higher up but still allowing enough space for a smaller component (DVD player or cable box) to sit on the top shelf...

I've got about half an inch. I have a DVD player sitting on top of it. My heat measurements are with this arrangement. This however is a case of do as I say not as I do. Keeping your gear well ventilated, cooled, etc is never a bad idea. I just can't get excited about this when I consistently run 20+ cooler than Onkyo's expected 150F (based on an email from customer service).

also, has anyone tried the ipod dock? is it worth it? The one review from amazon isn't favorable. wondering if another brand of "universal" dock would be work or be even better.

I've got the iPod dock, and it works just fine. The onscreen display is way-retro-texty '80s, but it was simple to figure out and it does what I expected it to do, which is let me play my iPod Nano through the receiver.

Someone mentioned something about not being able to use a dock due to the case making their iPod too big/thick to fit in the dock...my Nano, with rubberized case, fits just fine. YMMV...I can see how one would have a problem with a case on an HDD-based iPod....

Mikey

Decided to buy a new remote so I bought a Harmony 880 of amazon tonight. Hope the thing doesn't break after 1 year like I read on so many "hate" reviews. I guess its just luck of the draw. I heard that some people get lucky after 1 year+ of ownership on them and they never broke.

At least I will be able to control all my components easier again. I need to buy that lil RF adapter for the PS3 since the remote is bluetooth. Anyone here ever go that route?

That would be the Nyko BluWave remote, and it's pretty brilliant. I can now do everything on my Harmony that I could do with the BluWave, and the BluWave can do everything that the game controller can do except turn the PS3 on and off.

If you've got a Harmony 880 and a PS3, it's the best twenty bucks you can spend....

Mikey

I am considering this receiver for an older HDTV, component only input at 1080i. The TV does not accept 720p signals.

Have you seen improvement in PQ via the component "upconversion" from DTV, or DVD sources to the component in on your TV?

From what I understand, the "upconversion" via component for 480i sources (ie, directv SD channels) is to 480p, but not 1080i, correct?

Have you, or can I expect to see improvement in PQ for directv SD signals via component in and out via this receiver?

Thanks.

That would be the Nyko BluWave remote, and it's pretty brilliant. I can now do everything on my Harmony that I could do with the BluWave, and the BluWave can do everything that the game controller can do except turn the PS3 on and off.

If you've got a Harmony 880 and a PS3, it's the best twenty bucks you can spend....

Mikey

thank you for recommending that nyko blu wave. I was looking at another brand of ps3 IR remote and I didnt like certain aspects of it. This seems way better with the lil usb IR flash drive looking thing. :)

UPDATE: I just bought that remote off Newegg.com for 15 bucks. Thx again!

I finally got that new 120mm fan with AC/DC adapter for my receiver this weekend. I turned it on 6v (medium) speed.... at that speed it is so quiet I cannot even hear it. I barely can even feel a breeze coming out of it when i hold my hand in front at that speed (which means it doesn't spit heat and dust all over my room too.)

Even with this very low setting... it has SIGNIFICANTLY reduced the heat on top of my receiver. This is not a needed mod but, I do not think it will hurt. Before it was very warm maybe even slightly hot to the touch... Now its cool after hours of playback... a huge difference!

Thought I'd share my experiences.

Other things people may want to know:
It turns on and off with my receiver too as I was expecting. (without a problem) The AC/DC adapter was a little larger then I was expecting, but it still fit without brushing into the speaker terminals (very close though). I had to route the wire back away from the speaker cables so I do not get any EMI on the speakers (no problems here at all). I have the fan placed on the back right quadrant of the receiver blowing upward (this was the receivers hot spot). Works like a charm, of course there is no performance difference, I did this purely as a receiver longevity measure.

This is the model I got here. http://www.buyextras.com/vastulqu12dc.html

Hope this helps if anyone is in the market for some aftermarket cooling solutions.

I finally got that new 120mm fan with AC/DC adapter for my receiver this weekend. I turned it on 6v (medium) speed.... so quiet I cannot even hear it. I barely can even feel a breeze when i hold my hand in front at that speed (which means it doesn't spit heat and dust all over my room too.

Even with this very low setting... it has SIGNIFICANTLY reduced the heat on top of my receiver. I a sure I did not need this little mod.... but, I do not think it will hurt. Before it was very warm to hot to the touch... Now its cool!

Thought I'd share my experiences.

PS: It turns on and off with my receiver too as I was expecting. (without a problem) The AC/DC adapter was a little larger then I was expecting, but it still fit without brushing into the speaker terminals (very close though). I had to route the wire back away from the speaker cables so I do not get any EMI on the speakers. I have the fan placed on the back right quadrant of the receiver blowing upward. Works like a charm, of course there is no performance difference, I did this purely as a receiver longevity measure.

This is the model I got here. http://www.buyextras.com/vastulqu12dc.html

This is a great suggestion, thanks. I may get a few for my my component shelves. Is it on some kind of little stand or can it be mounted?

Finally got the receiver today. Went to CC and did a price match for amazon.com.

Impressions:
-As mentioned just above, the component to HDMI conversion leaves something to be desired. Not as much pop from ESPN football in HD as before.
-There is a slight pop from the receiver, but is not anywhere NEAR as bad as my previous Adcom pre/pro combo.
-The power just gives me enough, but not as much dynamic power as desired. This is compared to my previous Adcom amp (125W per channel... underrated).
-The Audessy auto EQ did not like my noisy AC going on during the measurements. Not much bass. I'll turn off the AC this week and re-EQ.
-Its EXTREMELY nice to have a receiver that handles all of my audio and video connections. I was previously programming macros out the wazoo on my previous setup and switching an optical cable between a couple components.
-Would have liked to see the surround format come up on the OSD. But then again, maybe its a good thing its not there for movies that go from 2 channel to surround from previews to main feature.
-No OSD on HDMI is a bummer. I understand the cost implications, but still a bummer. My eyes aren't good enough to see the volume.
-Anyone else have the remote fail to respond sometimes during the auto EQ setup?

This is a great suggestion, thanks. I may get a few for my my component shelves. Is it on some kind of little stand or can it be mounted?

No stand included. However it does have 8 screw holes total. So mounting options are no problem!

I have some usb powered fans from thermaltake that have stands that sit upright perpendicular to the floor. (I use them for ps3/xbox 360 section of my cabinet). So I know those stands can be bought at some place individually. Mounting the fan against the back wall outlet hole of a cabinet is also an option too since it has screw holes. (or some kind of home hand made hinged kick panel to float them behind your gear is an option too if you don't have a back wall in your cabinet)

-No OSD on HDMI is a bummer. I understand the cost implications, but still a bummer. My eyes aren't good enough to see the volume.

The 705 supports OSD on HDMI just fine. You just have to enable 'Monitor Out' in the Input/Output Assign.. you want 'HDMI Monitor' set to 'Yes'.

-Anyone else have the remote fail to respond sometimes during the auto EQ setup?

Doing the auto EQ setup without the on-screen display is a bit opaque. When you've got the OSD on, you'll see what your options are, and when you can use them. If you want to interrupt/cancel the Audyssey setup, you just have to unplug the microphone cable from the 705.

Edited: Fixed up the menu directions to turn the HDMI Monitor output on.

The 705 supports OSD on HDMI just fine. You just have to enable 'HDMI Monitor' in the hardware settings (or is it miscellaneous settings? I don't have the manual right in front of me at the moment). For some reason, it ships with that turned off.He's not talking about the setup screen. He's talking about the volume control overlayed over program material, which works over HDMI, but not with HDMI inputs (only transcoded inputs from component, etc).

He's not talking about the setup screen. He's talking about the volume control overlayed over program material, which works over HDMI, but not with HDMI inputs (only transcoded inputs from component, etc).

Ah, oops. Got you.

Hello all,

I am just seriously getting into Home Theater. I have done my research and it looks like the 705 is for me. I have several questions. First, I have a Samsung 5054 Plasma using HDMI and love the picture. Am I going to lose any video quality when using the receiver?

Second, I haven't read all the previous posts, anyone have any quick suggestions on decent, midrange speaker systems without breaking the bank?

Thanks for any help.

I thought i read that the OSD menu for volume etc was only available on composite and svideo input sources, and not component or HDMI

I havent seen it, and I am using all component sources, with component out to my TV. Havent turned on HDMI monitor out or any other settings. Should i see the volume OSD or not?

Any one not in immediate need, I would advise to wait for Denon 2308CI to hit the market, a bit low in unnecessary features, but GUI sound will be to die for MSRP $850

I thought i read that the OSD menu for volume etc was only available on composite and svideo input sources, and not component or HDMI

I havent seen it, and I am using all component sources, with component out to my TV. Havent turned on HDMI monitor out or any other settings. Should i see the volume OSD or not?It's definitely available on component sources transcoded to HDMI and sent to the display. It's not available on native HDMI sources (I have PS3, Xbox360 Elite, and TiVo S3 connected via HDMI, Wii connected thru component; all output to my Pio plasma via HDMI). I only see the volume overlay when using the Wii.

Hello all,
I have a Samsung 5054 Plasma using HDMI and love the picture. Am I going to lose any video quality when using the receiver?


As far as Video coming into the receiver VIA HDMI goes, it will be unchanged. The receiver simply interprets the HDMI audio stream and passes the video through completely unchanged.

The only way you might experience video quality changing is when it converts component to HDMI. I personally have no issues with the video conversion when it takes my Wii over component and outputs it to HDMI. However it is only 480p, and 720p/1080i component sources might be different when it converts then to HDMI 720p. It wont convert 1080p component to HDMI, so you have to use the component output from the receiver no matter what for 1080p. Still since this not only contains an HDMI switch but a component switch, you just need to run 2 connections to your TV, 1 HDMI and 1 Component, and it will pass through all the video unchanged, and just switch them according to your setup.

I am considering this receiver for an older HDTV, component only input at 1080i. The TV does not accept 720p signals.

Have you seen improvement in PQ via the component "upconversion" from DTV, or DVD sources to the component in on your TV?

From what I understand, the "upconversion" via component for 480i sources (ie, directv SD channels) is to 480p, but not 1080i, correct?

Have you, or can I expect to see improvement in PQ for directv SD signals via component in and out via this receiver?

Thanks.

You can get 480p & 720p if upconverting a 480i signal. Upconversion will not take place on component in & component out signals. Out = in. In order to upconvert, your setup would have to come in s-video and out component.

i can come in component and out HDMI and there is an improvement on some SD material. On some SD, its worse (not much) and on some, no difference. Its very hard to predict what will happen on SD sources because of the original lousy source material on some stations.

I don't post much on these forums but I read a lot :eek:. I just secured a 705 that is in transit to Canada, first ones to come in at least at the store I shop at and must thank everyone on this thread for all the information. As of now I actually have no questions to ask:) after reading this entire thread and the downloaded manual.

I will be using the 705 with my PS3 and Shaw Cable HDPVR both via HDMI, I'm saving the 3rd HDMI for a future HD-DVD player if this war keeps going much longer.

The 705 is $1099 Cdn which is way overpriced for our 94cents to 1USD and with Onkyo's ban on US stores shipping to Canada plus warrenty issues I will take a hit to get this reciever. I will note for other Canadians that deals can be had already. PM if you want the price I was quoted and the store (you can guess the store if you know which chain caries Onkyo in Canada...hint... it starts with a V).

Anyways, my 705 will be here by Tuesday!! If I have any questions once I get it I know where to go. Last, have any other Canadians already got a 705 (w/o going thru the US)??

I think you may have paid too much. Never, ever pay full price at Visions. I got a quote for $863.00 plus taxes. That's 5% over cost. You may want to go back and re-negotiate.

Sorry arbitrage...I didn't read your post correctly.

It's definitely available on component sources transcoded to HDMI and sent to the display. It's not available on native HDMI sources (I have PS3, Xbox360 Elite, and TiVo S3 connected via HDMI, Wii connected thru component; all output to my Pio plasma via HDMI). I only see the volume overlay when using the Wii.
OK well i had another look and it definately seems like the volume OSD is NOT available when using component in and out. I double checked all my settings - Immediate Display is set ON, i tried AUTO and PAL settings as well, i changed screen location between top and bottom, and format between 4:3 and 16:9. In the HDMI setup menu i definately have HDMI Monitor OFF, and all other functions (deep color, lip synch etc) OFF as well.

But no volume OSD overlay is visible on any of my input sources (xbox 1 using component, foxtel IQ (pace) box using SCART to component, Panasonic RV32 DVD player using straight component cables), all going via component to my Sony CRT

So it seems the volume overlay shows up on component source upconverted to HDMI (your Wii), but not on component source being passed through as component. I guess it might make sense in that component in/out and HDMI in/out are straight passed through, thus the receiver cant insert/overlay its own image on top. Whereas when composite/svideo are being upconverted to component, or composite/svideo/component are being upconverted to HDMI, perhaps it can modify/overlay the image since it is going through the image processing internals. Sound plausible?

Anyone else confirm if they get the volume OSD overlay on a component source converted to HDMI?

You're right on target scarecrow420, good explanation. If the Dr Faroudja's doing his thing, you can get the overlay.

on my 705, when watching a dvd in dts, i have to turn hdmi audio to off to get sound. what is actually happening then, audio gets processed via the sammy bdp1200 that i am using? receiver says hdmi pass through. also why dts not supported via hdmi? it must not be just me because manual says something to that effect. just cant figure it out.

HOT NEWS.

From our colleague Mongo16 in the "New 605 Thread". How to get the AVR to tell you its temperature:

1) Turn on Receiver
2) Press the "Display" and "Standby" button to get the DSP version
3) While still pressing the "Display" button, Press the "Standby" button at least twice.
4) Let go of the "Display" button
5) Now press the "Tone" button once
6) The temperature in Celsius and Fahrenheit will be displayed and move according to your receiver's temperature.

Cooool. Pun intended.

Hi all,
I am new here but have just purchased a TX-SR705. I have been reading all the posts and learned alot but I have some questions if you all don't mind.

I have an older Marantz DVD player that I have hooked up to the receiver's composite video ports and an optical cable for sound. Question - In the setup for the DVD player do I select PCM or Bitstream since reading the manual is of no help. Also, what would be the best sound setting(s) on the receiver as I only have a 5.1 speaker setup. It it on a disc by disc basis or is Dolby the only way to go without the additional 2 speakers.

Thanks

As far as Video coming into the receiver VIA HDMI goes, it will be unchanged. The receiver simply interprets the HDMI audio stream and passes the video through completely unchanged.

The only way you might experience video quality changing is when it converts component to HDMI. I personally have no issues with the video conversion when it takes my Wii over component and outputs it to HDMI. However it is only 480p, and 720p/1080i component sources might be different when it converts then to HDMI 720p. It wont convert 1080p component to HDMI, so you have to use the component output from the receiver no matter what for 1080p. Still since this not only contains an HDMI switch but a component switch, you just need to run 2 connections to your TV, 1 HDMI and 1 Component, and it will pass through all the video unchanged, and just switch them according to your setup.

Thanks! I appreciate the response. I guess I will continue to read through all the other posts for speaker recommendations. I am glad I found this forum. It is very helpful. Thanks again.

Hi all,
I am new here but have just purchased a TX-SR705. I have been reading all the posts and learned alot but I have some questions if you all don't mind.

I have an older Marantz DVD player that I have hooked up to the receiver's composite video ports and an optical cable for sound. Question - In the setup for the DVD player do I select PCM or Bitstream since reading the manual is of no help. Also, what would be the best sound setting(s) on the receiver as I only have a 5.1 speaker setup. It it on a disc by disc basis or is Dolby the only way to go without the additional 2 speakers.

Thanks

Set your player to "Bitstream". The 705 will know how many speakers you have when it does the Audyssey setup and won't select (or let you manually select) a 6.1 or 7.1 mode with only 5 speakers.

If your DVD player and TV have s-video capability, it's much better than composite. If they both have component, that's the best to use.:D

on my 705, when watching a dvd in dts, i have to turn hdmi audio to off to get sound. what is actually happening then, audio gets processed via the sammy bdp1200 that i am using? receiver says hdmi pass through. also why dts not supported via hdmi? it must not be just me because manual says something to that effect. just cant figure it out.
HDMI Audio is actually a setting that instructs the onkyo to pass on the audio signal via HDMI (eg to the connected display). So if you set it to ON, the onkyo no longer decodes the audio and no sound comes from your speakers, and instead the audio is just passed along to the next device in the chain. So basically, you want HDMI Audio OFF!!

If you want to control whether audio is processed in your blueray player or the onkyo, you need to change setting on the player itself. PCM or using the multichannel analog outs, means that the blueray player is decoding it and sending PCM via HDMI, or analog signals via the 6 cables. Bitstream means the player is passing the encoded dolby or DTS information to the onkyo, and the onkyo decodes it. But with the latest TrueHD and DTS-MA audio formats, no blueray player can yet pass those on as bitstream, so in that case the player will always be decoding it, and passing PCM to the onkyo

Thanks for the info. I should have been more specific. I do have and HDMI connection to my TV from the receiver, and an HDMI input from my Motorola cable box (FiOS)

HOT NEWS.

From our colleague Mongo16 in the "New 605 Thread". How to get the AVR to tell you its temperature:

1) Turn on Receiver
2) Press the "Display" and "Standby" button to get the DSP version
3) While still pressing the "Display" button, Press the "Standby" button at least twice.
4) Let go of the "Display" button
5) Now press the "Tone" button once
6) The temperature in Celsius and Fahrenheit will be displayed and move according to your receiver's temperature.

Cooool. Pun intended.

Very cool man! :)

Thx for reposting that to our thread here. I will have to test this later with and without my fan.

Thanks for the info. I should have been more specific. I do have and HDMI connection to my TV from the receiver, and an HDMI input from my Motorola cable box (FiOS)

If you have a motorola box similar to mine... here is something you can try..... Turn off the power on the box.. then click "menu" button on the remote... this displays a hidden menu of settings on screen (after a short wait). Audio options is one of the settings under advanced HDMI settings.... Here you can select output to pass through or L PCM.

I thought I'd mention this since you are tweaking your components for your 705

NOTE:
L-PCM sounds louder (for whatever reason), but it does not pass the Dolby Digital to your receiver unless you are in pass through... Because of this I run in pass through.

Temperature test results: (using the hidden temp display on the receiver)

After 1+ hours of watching TV at normal to slightly loud volume settings. (In all channel stereo to overwork the amp running 7.1 non stop)
I was showing 120 degrees F (without fan)

With the fan running from a cool start up state continuously at same volume, DSP settings and duration.
I was showing 104 degrees F (with fan)

An 16 degree F difference is nice enough to have justified my fan purchase. The nice part is I was only running the fan at 1/2 speed I may have been able to shave off maybe another 8 more degrees off that number at max setting.

Even though this demonstrates the fan is working, I am not sure how effective it will be for prolonging the lifespan of my receiver (if it will at all). The only fact I do know, is by getting rid of 16 degrees of ambient heat back there, I wont be warming up my other components that much more... so it will have a nice positive trickle down effect.

One final thought on all this. The biggest difference having a fan vs not having a fan is the speed in which the temp rises. When I was without a fan the temp jumped up to 100 degrees fast then creeped up to 120 over course of an hours use. With a fan running it takes close to 1 hour for it to even hit 100 degrees from room temp.

*UPDATE* I cranked the fan up to max speed from a cold start and it seems to hover around 98-100 degrees F when the receiver is fully heated up. As I suspected it wasn't a full 8 degree drop doubling the setting, only about 4-6 degrees.

Good science, woots. A very convincing argument for forced ventilation. I'll have to use this to see if my DVD on top of the 705 has a cause and effect.

Thanks woots for the tip on the Motorola box. I saw an addtional audio setting for auto which the box was set to. I left it on that. As far as the receiver goes, what would be the best sound setting to leave it on while watching TV (via the HDMI). Every show that comes on (and the commercials) are sending through different signals. Do you just leave the receiver on one settings and let it adjust automatically?

Thanks woots for the tip on the Motorola box. I saw an addtional audio setting for auto which the box was set to. I left it on that. As far as the receiver goes, what would be the best sound setting to leave it on while watching TV (via the HDMI). Every show that comes on (and the commercials) are sending through different signals. Do you just leave the receiver on one settings and let it adjust automatically?

I have a Moto 3416 and passthrough is the best way to go. For most TV, OK actually for all TV, I use DD PLIIx. It does a very good job of handling DD 2.0 and 5.1 material into 7.1. just set and forget.

what should the receiver say when it is processing a sound format from a ps3 playing bluray?

I have a Moto 3416 and passthrough is the best way to go. For most TV, OK actually for all TV, I use DD PLIIx. It does a very good job of handling DD 2.0 and 5.1 material into 7.1. just set and forget.

Thank you mrgribbles, but I believe that because I only have a 5.1 speaker setup up this choice may not be available to me on the receiver. Am I correct? If so, what would be your choice with a 5.1 system

Thank you mrgribbles, but I believe that because I only have a 5.1 speaker setup up this choice may not be available to me on the receiver. Am I correct? If so, what would be your choice with a 5.1 system

Yes you are correct. I would opt for DD PLII (no x) or Neo:6. An interesting option would be Neural 5.1 or of course any of the THX modes. Many people swear by THX cinema. They're all a bit different. Experiment, enjoy.

HDMI Audio is actually a setting that instructs the onkyo to pass on the audio signal via HDMI (eg to the connected display). So if you set it to ON, the onkyo no longer decodes the audio and no sound comes from your speakers, and instead the audio is just passed along to the next device in the chain. So basically, you want HDMI Audio OFF!!

If you want to control whether audio is processed in your blueray player or the onkyo, you need to change setting on the player itself. PCM or using the multichannel analog outs, means that the blueray player is decoding it and sending PCM via HDMI, or analog signals via the 6 cables. Bitstream means the player is passing the encoded dolby or DTS information to the onkyo, and the onkyo decodes it. But with the latest TrueHD and DTS-MA audio formats, no blueray player can yet pass those on as bitstream, so in that case the player will always be decoding it, and passing PCM to the onkyo
i have to set hdmi audio out ot on to hear anything dts,i still get sound for speakers 705, and can stil change surround modes 705. is anyone else having audio loss with dts, if hdmi audio out is set to off? i am running hdmi out of sammy bdp1200 to 705,then hdmi to panny 58pz700u from 705. is it me,705, or the sammy? either way still sounds good, but hate having to get into set-up everytime i select dts on disc.

Have not seen anything but sure hope I do. It would have to be a pretty good price to offset the tax though. I'm fighting ordering from Crutchfield right now as they currently have the black model back in stock.

Well, Labor Day has come and passed without any deals on the 705. I went ahead I got the 605 for around $400. My current receiver died and I could not wait any longer. I just couldn't justify the additional $230 for the 705. That $250 will go toward a major upgrade in perhaps two years when I complete the HT dedicated room.

I'm off to the "New 605 Owner" site. Thanks for all the great advice.

Just pulled the trigger on the 705 in silver. Gave up trying to get bottom dollar.
$609 ain't too shabby though.

Cheers!

Just pulled the trigger on the 705 in silver. Gave up trying to get bottom dollar.
$609 ain't too shabby though.

Cheers!

Where did you get that price?

i have to set hdmi audio out ot on to hear anything dts,i still get sound for speakers 705, and can stil change surround modes 705. is anyone else having audio loss with dts, if hdmi audio out is set to off? i am running hdmi out of sammy bdp1200 to 705,then hdmi to panny 58pz700u from 705. is it me,705, or the sammy? either way still sounds good, but hate having to get into set-up everytime i select dts on disc.

I think if you go back few pages you will find your answer, I was confused with the set up also maybe you can check with mcgribbles he is very knowledgeable in these things. All I did with my panny bd10a (BR) I set up the DTS and DD in bitstream and the rest is PCM.

Goodluck,
Peter

Where did you get that price?
I thought it wasn't allowed to disclose that info.

I've been trying to set up my new 705 and I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the settings and setup etc.. This is my first real home theater AVR and I wondered if all of the tips and hidden menus are listed in one place here?Here's a few of my questions:

1) Can I listen to my TV without having the receiver on?
2) What listening modes are best? (I know it's subjective)
3) Why does my REGA turntable show up when edited and not my Nak deck?
4) Are there more remote codes for my VCR or even my Nak?
5) How come there's not as much bass coming through my speakers now?

I also want to mention I've been following these threads and have read alot. Unfortunately my brain is overloaded with info and I haven't even gotten my OPPO 980 yet!!!: Please take it easy on this newcomer.:D

1) Can I listen to my TV without having the receiver on?
If you arnt using hdmi pass through and just using rca or optical to the receiver then you dont have to worry about using your receiver or not... turn it on when you like. Another option is under HDMI settings on receiver (if u are using hdmi) turn it "on" hdmi audio output. This will allow playback of your tv's audio even through you are going through the receiver.


2) What listening modes are best? (I know it's subjective)
Most people like the PLIIx DSP's. I have to concur myself.... nice sounding and well rounding... "set it an forget it" kind of option.


3) Why does my REGA turntable show up when edited and not my Nak deck? If you mean your custom labeling... I have that same problem too on the "Game" mode option.. I cant get label to stick.. some people figured out a trick for this... but I never got it working.. someone else will chime in probably.


4) Are there more remote codes for my VCR or even my Nak?
I didnt have any problem with my remote, but it is a learning remote if you need custom tweaking... read remote section of manual on "how to" do about that. If you are not happy with the remote that came with the receiver you can always buy a higher end after market remote like a Harmony, URC, etc.


5) How come there's not as much bass coming through my speakers now?
The Audyessy auto EQ setup tends to make the bass very weak... many of us have expressed this. If you are just watching movies you can grow to get used to it. If you are listening to music it can be annoying. My simple advice is just after you do automatic setup... go into the settings and turn up the db on the sub.. it usually sets it very low. This will give you a little more thump without messing up to much of the Audyessy settings.

My temp readings
Ambient 74F AVR volume -22dB
DVD player sits on top of 705, 1/2" or so clearance.

1 hour 43C/109F
Switched to Component in to HDMI out to tax the video processor
1 1/2 hour up to 44F/111F
2 hours 46/114
3 hours 46c/114f
4 hours 47C/116F

By infrared the back right quadrant reads 128F

Pretty cool running if you ask me. Tomorrow night I'll start it up with the DVD off the top of the 705 to see if there's much difference. I bet no.

Thanks woots, I have the cable box component cables going where the manual said. They are in component video in #3 and the audio into CABL/SAT L&R. The HDMI cable out to TV and my VCR to composite VCR/DVR in and out. I like the PLIIx tto and have read about the remote and will try that. I'll look into changing the Sub settings and hopefully someone will let on to fixing the labeling issue.

I thought it wasn't allowed to disclose that info.

Well, how about PM'ing me the info:)

I received my Logitech Harmony 880 Universal remote tonight in the mail and I have to say it was an excellent purchase!! All the negative things I read especially pertaining to its lack of ability when it came to macros had me worried. I was worried this would be a mediocre remote with a fancy screen... at best. Instead....Its the best remote I have owned to date and without the need to hack it or mod it... I can even do all the custom things I wanted to do right out of the box.

It took me 4 hours of tinkering to get the remote perfect how I want it... but its nice that the data is stored online elsewhere in case I ever need to do it again.

The "Activities" is where they have all the customizable macros located. Its the lack of the word macro that I think throws people off. I can now, with the touch of my "xbox 360 activity" macro I made.... turn on my tv, turn on my receiver, turn on my 360, switch the receiver to my assigned 360 input, and switch my tv input to the component video input. The macro even works very quickly to my surprise not a of delay. (delay is something you can tweak in the macro too)

I wanted to hack this remote to put in my own Hd television channel logos. Instead...the custom logos I wanted to add for all my favorite HD channels is allowed, right in the software. It's a bit buried in the menus and part of the activity list, but it allows you to upload 16 channel logos and assign channel numbers to each logo. So now when I click media button I can see all my favorite Hd channels channels with their logos and click them to hop right to it! Perfect!

The off button at the top of the remote is a built in "ALL OFF" macro.. so no need to program an off macro.

I also noticed when you are in activity mode (like my comcast HD cable box activity I set up) It shows a trimmed down menu in the display, instead of the 4 pages deep of one specific component... that makes stuff hard to find and get to for daily use. With this trimmed down menu I can customize that 1 (or 2) page menu to my top 8-16 most needed commands (that aren't built into the hard buttons at the bottom) such as "My DVR" button and "favorite" button. This gives you any extra commands you want without having to hunt for them!

Good purchase! I am having no problems at all. Took a lot of time tweaking my HD logos in photoshop but overall this has been an excellent experience.

Here is a link to logos and backgrounds pre sized to fit the Harmony remote:
http://squareworld.com/harmony/download.cgi?download=h800_060124.zip
with respect due to the guy who made them his site is here: http://squareworld.com/harmony/

There were logos missing in this zip so I had to search down a archive of modern tv logos in USA. I found one here: http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/tvcountry/us_1.html

what should the receiver say when it is processing a sound format from a ps3 playing bluray?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the way it goes (its bad when there's so many options an electrical engineer is a little confused!)...

The PS3, when in bitrate output mode, will decode the surround format (DD, DTS, DD TrueHD), and convert it to bitstream. The receiver then sees the bitstream and has to do zero decoding. On my setup, I just see some text about it receiving bitstream. There's definitely surround sound going on, just no light or text saying which audio output it is. I've been using the audio selector + "info screen" on the PS3 to get the correct format selected (the OSD overlay that shows the audio format, bitrate, chapter, etc).

The 705 supports OSD on HDMI just fine. You just have to enable 'Monitor Out' in the Input/Output Assign.. you want 'HDMI Monitor' set to 'Yes'.



Doing the auto EQ setup without the on-screen display is a bit opaque. When you've got the OSD on, you'll see what your options are, and when you can use them. If you want to interrupt/cancel the Audyssey setup, you just have to unplug the microphone cable from the 705.

Edited: Fixed up the menu directions to turn the HDMI Monitor output on.

Ah, the power of not using enough description :) Definitely a personal flaw.

When I said no OSD on the HDMI, I should have specified "no OSD on HDMI sources to HDMI output". Since two of my three sources are HDMI, its a bummer.

I did the Auto EQ using the OSD, and when the selection screen popped up, a couple of times it did not register my remote presses. The receiver was flashing to signal it was getting the remote code, it just wasn't responding.

Another complaint: the IR remote/sensor combo seems weak. I have to do a bit of aiming to get it to register. Guess I need to setup my universal remote.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the way it goes (its bad when there's so many options an electrical engineer is a little confused!)...

The PS3, when in bitrate output mode, will decode the surround format (DD, DTS, DD TrueHD), and convert it to bitstream. The receiver then sees the bitstream and has to do zero decoding. On my setup, I just see some text about it receiving bitstream. There's definitely surround sound going on, just no light or text saying which audio output it is. I've been using the audio selector + "info screen" on the PS3 to get the correct format selected (the OSD overlay that shows the audio format, bitrate, chapter, etc).im no expert and i dont know about PS3 terminology. But as far as my DVD player goes, bitstream means it does not decode the audio in the player - it sends the raw "bitstream" of encoded dolby or DTS information to the receiver, and the receiver decodes it. The alternative, where the plaer decodes the dolby/DTS audio, and then sends it onto the receiver using the more generic PCM format, is called PCM

In terms of what the onkyo reports, when my dvd player is set to bitstream, the onkyo shows "Dolby D" or "DTS"... when the player is in PCM mode, the onkyo says "PCM 44KHz" or similar

im no expert and i dont know about PS3 terminology. But as far as my DVD player goes, bitstream means it does not decode the audio in the player - it sends the raw "bitstream" of encoded dolby or DTS information to the receiver, and the receiver decodes it. The alternative, where the plaer decodes the dolby/DTS audio, and then sends it onto the receiver using the more generic PCM format, is called PCM

In terms of what the onkyo reports, when my dvd player is set to bitstream, the onkyo shows "Dolby D" or "DTS"... when the player is in PCM mode, the onkyo says "PCM 44KHz" or similar

Older DVD players have that bitstream/PCM output. Bitsream allows dolby D and DTS ... while PCM doesn't.. as scarecrow said.

On the high def uncompressed audio side of things.....
There is no player HD DVD or Blu Ray player on the market yet, that can send undecoded "raw" bitsream data.

Currently ps3 and other players do all decoding at the player.. the True HD and DTS HD features on our receiver are useless at the moment. They could possibly always be useless too.

Some people said that the player was supposed to be the last stop in the chain of decoding for these new uncompressed formats... but some last minute marketing decision had them push their logos to preprocessors and receivers. This gives a lot of confusion and have people always wondering...."why am I not getting true hd/dts hd decoding on my receiver?" The fact is you are getting those formats, they are just being decoding in your player... then being sent uncompressed (but decoded) to your receiver. This is why it still sounds so amazing.

Lastly, decoding in the player allows for secondary audio tracks. In addition, on the HD DVD side of things... I have read this format currently "requires" the decoding to happen in the player.

With all these things factoring in... its why I said we may "never" see a hi def format player that outputs raw bitstream.. best case scenario not for a while. If it happens it will be on Blu Ray side not HD DVD side.. unless they change things with the HD DVD format. I have also read no firmware can tweak PS3 into outputting raw bitstream either.

Read these links for more info on what I am saying:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Joshua_Zyber/High-Def_FAQ/High-Def_FAQ:_Is_HDMI_1.3_Really_Necessary/853
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=789994

This was all very confusing to me for the entire week I was hunting down all this info, reading it, and trying to wrap my head around this convoluted topic! I finally got a handle on it and my conclusion is, many of us are victims of the marketing hype. The primary reason I chose this receiver series was for the True HD/DTS HD decoding. In the end, I come to realize, I never needed it in the 1st place. I don't regret buying this receiver though, its awesome for the price. I just regret waiting so long to get an HDMI receiver for what I thought were logical reasons to be wait for.. in hopes to future-proof my purchase! Perhaps, thats exactly what I did do... future-proof my purchase; maybe we all did... then again... maybe not! :D

Final thought: I'm just happy not having to worry about, "Am I getting True HD or not!?!?" anymore.. cause I am. :)

Toshiba and Onkyo are releasing new players that will output raw bitstream to the AVR. An upgrade to the A20 and XA2 HD DVD players was due today, but new info is it will be a couple of weeks, that is supposed to give that functionality to these players. So I think we'll see it in HD before BD. I think??

The issue of advanced content has yet to be completely explained by the industry insiders but it is my understanding that if you choose raw output then you will not get mixed audio that may contain button or key press sounds and/or mixed in commentary. It certainly seems plausible as they are separate tracks. So I think its very likely that bitstream data to the AVR is a reality and its soon. Can't wait because it will also allow 7.1 where the most the XA2 will internally decode is 5.1. I know there aren't many discs but once the capability is there it will happen. "If you build it they will come."

Hey woots. I agree the Harmony is quite a piece of gear. The macros people are talking about aren't there yet. These supposedly will be "One Button" macros" that could be assignable to the hard keys or the soft keys and will allow mixed mode commands. Since I still think in old school device oriented logic it was hard for me to get this activity thing down. After really buggerin it up I eventually started from scratch and gave in to Harmony think. Now it works as expected. It'll take quite some time to do as you pointed out and that is to get all the frequently used inter-component commands entered and re-ordered but I'm with you, its a great device and the price at Amazon was a steal. Happy channel surfing.

I am not sure if someone has already posted this, circuitcity has this back on for $549 and the 805 for $706.

I am not sure if someone has already posted this, circuitcity has this back on for $549 and the 805 for $706.

Really! Hmmm....:)

I am not sure if someone has already posted this, circuitcity has this back on for $549 and the 805 for $706.

Ow, yes they do. I paid more than they are asking for the 805 on the 705 last week.

Ow, yes they do. I paid more than they are asking for the 805 on the 705 last week.

CC has 30 day price protection. Go back and come home with a bag o' money. Don't forget to copy the web page. There have been instances of CC resistance.

Anybody have a 12% coupon or other discount?

CC has 30 day price protection. Go back and come home with a bag o' money. Don't forget to copy the web page. There have been instances of CC resistance.

Hm, I just take the web page in with the price shown, along with my receipt, and they refund the difference?

I may have to try that. I think I'm happy with the 705 (vs. the hot 'n heavy 805), but the $150 savings would be nice to have back.

Yep, thats what their website says. I've done it on web purchases, it was a bit of an enjoyable chore but in the end the good guy won. $150 isn't chump change.

Just ordered mine this morning, thanks sreedhart! I was starting to lean towards the Elite 92 but at double the price I can't see a reason to do it. I guess I can sell my SR-702 now, wonder what I can get for it on Ebay?

It's gone now.

Sure is...what happened?

hey... i missed out on seeing the webpage for CC!

Can somebody please pm me (to get my email) a copy of the webpage so I could pricematch the 705 that i bought a couple of weeks ago???


Please?!?!?!?!


Thanks!!!!

-- snip --I think I'm happy with the 705 (vs. the hot 'n heavy 805), but the $150 savings would be nice to have back.

hot 'n heavy 'n way cool!!! :D:D:D

sure enough it is gone now, I printed out a copy and Price matched for the 719 price I paid over the weekend and got my $$$ back, I do have a copy of the web page but am at work and don't have access to a scanner. I can only scan and send it when I get home in the evening. PM me if anyone needs it.

sure enough it is gone now, I printed out a copy and Price matched for the 719 price I paid over the weekend and got my $$$ back, I do have a copy of the web page but am at work and don't have access to a scanner. I can only scan and send it when I get home in the evening. PM me if anyone needs it.

pm sent....


thanks for helping me out!!!!

I have been experimenting with the various listening modes and notice that I do not have a great many of them available to me on the receiver. I have a Marantz DVD hooked up via composite (video) and optical (audio) ports. TV is hooked up through HDMI. 5.1 speaker system

I cannot get any of the Dolby Pro Logic choices and no Neo or Neural. Basically all that is available is DVD Theater, DVD Direct, DVD Stereo, Dolby D,
THX Cinema, and a few others.

Does this have anything to do with the optical connection? If I go into the setup and set the DVD audio out to --- the choices come back, but there is no sound. If I choose Pure Audio, there is no video. Any thoughts?

DVD hooked up via component Video not composite

What does your display say? If your Marantz is putting out DD 5.1 then when you cycle through the display it should say so. I suspect your getting a 2 channel PCM feed. Look first at the player. If you can be sure you're getting a 5.1 output then be sure you are pressing the surround button on the remote. Should come together.

Display says Dolby D 5.1 When I press surround on the remote I only get Dolby Digital

Should I be using Coax instead of Digital Optical?

anybody have a printout of the 805 price? Please PM

sure enough it is gone now, I printed out a copy and Price matched for the 719 price I paid over the weekend and got my $$$ back, I do have a copy of the web page but am at work and don't have access to a scanner. I can only scan and send it when I get home in the evening. PM me if anyone needs it.

pm sent, waiting for the scanned copy.

Quick question. My setup should be pretty simple as I'm waiting a little closer to the "big switch" to upgrade my other components for High-def. So, here's what I'll be running through the 705. I'm wondering if there is any advantage to using Comp in, but only having S-Vid out to the TV or just go S-vid all the way?

Into 705:

Sony 5-tray DVD/SACD player - Component/Optical for dvd & Multi for SACD
Panny DVD burner - Component/Optical
Sont SAT T60 Tivo - Component/Optical


Out from 705:

Sony Wega - Svideo

Quick question. My setup should be pretty simple as I'm waiting a little closer to the "big switch" to upgrade my other components for High-def. So, here's what I'll be running through the 705. I'm wondering if there is any advantage to using Comp in, but only having S-Vid out to the TV or just go S-vid all the way?

Into 705:

Sony 5-tray DVD/SACD player - Component/Optical for dvd & Multi for SACD
Panny DVD burner - Component/Optical
Sont SAT T60 Tivo - Component/Optical


Out from 705:

Sony Wega - Svideo
Does your tv not have component or hdmi?

any one has print out for 705 price please pm me

likewise... but does anyone know what the policy is at CircuitCity... can you really go in and show them this printout and have them honor it.. also would you had to have already bought the reciever?

Does your tv not have component or hdmi?

Nope, just S-vid.

What does your display say? If your Marantz is putting out DD 5.1 then when you cycle through the display it should say so. I suspect your getting a 2 channel PCM feed. Look first at the player. If you can be sure you're getting a 5.1 output then be sure you are pressing the surround button on the remote. Should come together.

Interesting point on the DVD settings. I had the player on Bitstream and was not getting all the listening modes as I stated. However, just as an experiment I swtiched the DVD player to PCM and now the Onkyo is showing many more choices including PLII Movie and many of the other "missing" choices.

hey... i missed out on seeing the webpage for CC!

Can somebody please pm me (to get my email) a copy of the webpage so I could pricematch the 705 that i bought a couple of weeks ago???


Please?!?!?!?!


Thanks!!!!

Me too, please!! I bought mine 28 days ago for $719!

likewise... but does anyone know what the policy is at CircuitCity... can you really go in and show them this printout and have them honor it.. also would you had to have already bought the reciever?

I believe it works either way.

sure enough it is gone now, I printed out a copy and Price matched for the 719 price I paid over the weekend and got my $$$ back, I do have a copy of the web page but am at work and don't have access to a scanner. I can only scan and send it when I get home in the evening. PM me if anyone needs it.

Would you please PM me the price also?

I paid 719 for mine a week ago as well...if i could waltz in there and get a refund equal to the price of the harmony 880 i just ordered i'd be tickled.

I have a question on the harmony....can it learn the functions of the nyko ps3 Ir remote from the website or do you have to learn keypresses by putting the 2 remotes together?

I have a screenshot I took of the website with it there, plan on printing it up and heading over there after work to try and get that price. Doubt it will work though, didn't think to get the date in there and I'm sure they will bring it up on the site in store to check it.

- Jon

sure enough it is gone now, I printed out a copy and Price matched for the 719 price I paid over the weekend and got my $$$ back, I do have a copy of the web page but am at work and don't have access to a scanner. I can only scan and send it when I get home in the evening. PM me if anyone needs it.

Please PM me as well...I paid same as you!

--Mikey

I replied to all of my PM's that had a email id, if you haven't received it make sure you included your email.

Thanks....

Toshiba and Onkyo are releasing new players that will output raw bitstream to the AVR. An upgrade to the A20 and XA2 HD DVD players was due today, but new info is it will be a couple of weeks, that is supposed to give that functionality to these players. So I think we'll see it in HD before BD. I think??

The issue of advanced content has yet to be completely explained by the industry insiders but it is my understanding that if you choose raw output then you will not get mixed audio that may contain button or key press sounds and/or mixed in commentary. It certainly seems plausible as they are separate tracks. So I think its very likely that bitstream data to the AVR is a reality and its soon. Can't wait because it will also allow 7.1 where the most the XA2 will internally decode is 5.1. I know there aren't many discs but once the capability is there it will happen. "If you build it they will come."

I hope thats true... I read this on that link I posted.... is it this player your speaking of? If so it seems it still won't happen.

"Once again, marketing material from the hardware manufacturers is misleading. Onkyo outright claims that their upcoming DV-HD805 HD DVD player offers "streaming of the new lossless surround sound formats, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio, as well as two 'lossy' formats, Dolby Digital Plus and DTS®-HD High Resolution Audio." Sure, the player will be able to transmit the bitstreams of those formats, but only if the disc is authored in Basic mode, which no HD DVDs are, a fact they conveniently neglect to mention."

I am not sure if someone has already posted this, circuitcity has this back on for $549 and the 805 for $706.

Man... they are like freakin ninjas with those price drops... I think they time them so when I am asleep they drop the price. As soon as my alarm clock turns on... they take the discount off the site.

Can I go to CC and demand that price?.. Or will I need some kind of proof they dropped the price at CC? If so can anyone please pm/email me the proof (it would be MOST appreciated!) :D

Id love to get back 125 bucks.... that would make my new harmony remote free. :)

I'm looking at getting this cabinet (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70115187) or one very much like it for the new DLP set I'll be getting, plus all of my existing components. I wouldn't use the backing that's on it, obviously, because the cables need somewhere to go. Based on the measurements on Ikea's website my best guess puts the available room in one of those compartments at about 17 3/4" wide and about 8" or maybe 8 1/4" tall. Based on the dimensions of the SR705, this leaves about a half inch of room on the sides and top of the unit if it were in one of those compartments. Based on your experiences with heat dispersal, is this enough? Which side does it vent most from?

Thanks for the help!

I hope thats true... I read this on that link I posted.... is it this player your speaking of? If so it seems it still won't happen.

"Once again, marketing material from the hardware manufacturers is misleading. Onkyo outright claims that their upcoming DV-HD805 HD DVD player offers "streaming of the new lossless surround sound formats, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio, as well as two 'lossy' formats, Dolby Digital Plus and DTS®-HD High Resolution Audio." Sure, the player will be able to transmit the bitstreams of those formats, but only if the disc is authored in Basic mode, which no HD DVDs are, a fact they conveniently neglect to mention."

I tink this has been pretty much put to bed but I may add, not 100% publicly verified by Toshiba. Here's a quote from an AVS forum Moderator and Robert of VE who were with Toshiba yesterday at the CEDIA Expo.

1st Robert is commenting on the HBR (High bitrate audo). He has also said its 100% that the update for HBR is coming in Sept for the XA2.

Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post
"HBR = High Bit Rate and yes it does mean that the A30, A35 and XA2 will pass the audio bit stream to your receiver without de-coding the signal."

Jon Spackman of AVS
"And that HBR mode is something you have to turn on because it bypasses all the menu sounds and special feauture audio. It will give you onscreen prompt when you are in hte HBR mode and need them."

There have been a lot of people continuing to belabor the "advanced content" loophole, but as I said n my earlier post, its a choice the user makes, I've known this for some time but I quit arguing the point, couldn't win.

I tink this has been pretty much put to bed but I may add, not 100% publicly verified by Toshiba. Here's a quote from an AVS forum Moderator and Robert of VE who were with Toshiba yesterday at the CEDIA Expo.

1st Robert is commenting on the HBR (High bitrate audo). He has also said its 100% that the update for HBR is coming in Sept for the XA2.

Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post
"HBR = High Bit Rate and yes it does mean that the A30, A35 and XA2 will pass the audio bit stream to your receiver without de-coding the signal."

Jon Spackman of AVS
"And that HBR mode is something you have to turn on because it bypasses all the menu sounds and special feauture audio. It will give you onscreen prompt when you are in hte HBR mode and need them."

There have been a lot of people continuing to belabor the "advanced content" loophole, but as I said n my earlier post, its a choice the user makes, I've known this for some time but I quit arguing the point, couldn't win.

Looks like your right about "build it an they will come". I found this link, a new player for blu ray camp also has a raw bitsream player premiered at CEDIA too.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cedia07/pioneer-unveils-elite-bdp+95fd-blu+ray-player-296947.php

Looks like both the HD DVD and Blu Ray raw bitsream players both will cost 1000 bucks. Steep price tag to couple it with a receiver that costs nearly 1/2 that price and for a format war thats still ongoing.... but.. I am getting tempted! :D

After reading all the negative facts that raw bitsream will never happen (here on AVS forums) from people who seemed to know a whole lot more about this topic then I... had me convinced. This at least validates my decision to wait for next gen receivers before I hoped in.

No. The new Toshiba's will max at $499 msrp, due out in Oct. In fact I believe that Robert at VE is taking orders for them now. Check out VE for more info. The new Onkyo's will be up around a grand +/-. I didn't need a receiver, but being able to spend small bucks for a THX, next gen AVR was a must do.

No. The new Toshiba's will max at $499 msrp, due out in Oct. In fact I believe that Robert at VE is taking orders for them now. Check out VE for more info. The new Onkyo's will be up around a grand +/-. I didn't need a receiver, but being able to spend small bucks for a THX, next gen AVR was a must do.

Hmm, thx for heads up... are you buying this? I am still not a member of the hd dvd camp (only blu ray .. own about 20 blu ray discs now)

Before I purchase a HD DVD player like this, I wanna be 100% sure all the current hd dvd discs will send undecoded audio to the receiver now......and not "future" hd dvd releases only after the studios figure out whats going on.

If you do buy these please be sure to let me (and all of us) know what happens and if your current hd dvd collection is outputting dts hd and true hd to your receiver. (for discs encoded with those flavors I mean)

500 bucks is the right price!

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Thanks....

got it, thanks sridhar.

No, I won't be buying one woots I already have an XA2 that will (100% sure) be upgraded to HBR audio and 24fps very soon. Per Toshiba the Xa2 will remain the flagship of their offerings. I love it and I'm gonna love it more. I think their on sale for sub $500. BTW, THD and DTS HD MA have been confirmed or so I recollect. I have a basic authored disk is DTS HD Master Audio and I can't wait to play it.

Hi I just got my 705 hooked up today and Used 1 HDMI input an it worked great All of my other components are hooked up to opt1 or opt 2 or coax 1 but I can't get any sound from any of them. I know I am messing up somehow but can' figure out what I am doing wrong. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

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Thanks....

Thanks man... I was able to pricematch with it!

Some additional temp readings.

When I started up its 26C/78F. I took my DVD off the top so I have about 4" clearance on top and open all around. Ambient 73F, volume -18
41C/105F after an hour. After another 1/2 hour up to 43C/109F.

It was cruisin at 43/109 for a long time, another hour, so I cranked the volume up to +4, about all my ears could take, and the temp climbed up to 47/116 in about 10 min, so volume is certainly a heat consideration. It should be, shouldn't it??:)

I go back to -18 dB and after 15 min we drop to 43/109. Not a bad recovery, damn good in fact. Well, we learn a couple of things. Heat rises with power output, no surprise there, the DVD player on top of the AVR adds about 5F (based on last nights results) and the AVR responds well to changing loads. Helluva unit.

I've been trying to set up my new 705 and I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the settings and setup etc.. This is my first real home theater AVR and I wondered if all of the tips and hidden menus are listed in one place here?Here's a few of my questions:

1) Can I listen to my TV without having the receiver on?
2) What listening modes are best? (I know it's subjective)
3) Why does my REGA turntable show up when edited and not my Nak deck?
4) Are there more remote codes for my VCR or even my Nak?
5) How come there's not as much bass coming through my speakers now?

I also want to mention I've been following these threads and have read alot. Unfortunately my brain is overloaded with info and I haven't even gotten my OPPO 980 yet!!!: Please take it easy on this newcomer.:D

Ok, I figured out a couple things so far.

1) I can watch TV via coaxial cable or through the receiver.
2) I've set up most of my listening modes to my preference.
3) I fixed the labeling issue, pushed wrong button apparently.
4) I've adjusted the bass to double bass and adjusted the LFE.

I'm still not sure if my picture is better than before. Is there a way to see how it's being upscaled if at all? Any other tweeks anyone can recommend?

If you arnt using hdmi pass through and just using rca or optical to the receiver then you dont have to worry about using your receiver or not... turn it on when you like.

Woots, care to explain how this works?

Hi everyone. I am new to the forums, but I have been reading lots of posts before today. I have the 705 and am still trying to make sure I need it, as opposed to saving almost $200 by dropping to the 605.

I have the following setup:

My TV is the Samsung's LN-T4042H, which I got this week during the awesome CC drop to $999, combined with $100 Comcast price drop and a 10% off online deal. So I paid about $810. They just raised the price back to $1299, so I got a steal.

My receiver is the TX-SR705, which I also got from CC a few days ago for the current $719 - another 10% online coupon. So I paid about $650, which is great for me, although not as good as the sweet $500 deal that some of you have gotten.

My PS3 was purchased on another incredible deal. I used the Meijer special 20% credit card deal that they run occasionally, along with the 10% off your first Meijer card usage. That got my PS3 down to $380.

I am pretty thankful for these deals, or I wouldn't have been able to spend the $650 to get this awesome receiver.

So far, I haven't had any issues with the receiver. I have never heard a single pop while switching inputs, or switching from blu-ray movies to games on the PS3, or switching sound channels. My Audyssey speaker set up went well the first time. The only thing that was an issue was my fault, in not having the powered sub gain a little higher. It still picked it up fine though. The sound of movies and games is just incredible - even using my old Panasonic Mini System speakers. All I did was replace the old 18-20 guage wire with new 14 gauge. Also, I am using a separate subwoofer. It is an 8 or 10 year old Optimus, with about 300W+ and it's own remote control and crossover.

My questions are still focused on whether dropping to the 605 would make me miss out on any important features. The only thing I think I would use is the THX. Other than that, I am not sure if I would miss anything.

Any thoughts?

Woots, care to explain how this works?

Are you still running all analog.. composite/RCA only?
Or do you have a HDMI setup?

If you don't care about HDMI pass through.. you don't need to turn on your receiver just to watch tv or dvd's.

On the back of your tv you should have audio output of some sort.. RCA or optical... just pass those cables from your tv to your receiver. Take your dvd player audio outputs and still keep those inputed to the tv (not the receiver).

So the connection path looks like this: cable box to tv... dvd player to tv.... tv audio out to receiver.

Now you can watch tv without the receiver being on... you can watch dvd's without the receiver being on. If you ever want to crank up the experience flip on your receiver. Whatever audio is coming out of your tv will also play out of your receiver when you turn it on.

This is like blasphemy to the hardcore listener "audiophile-type" person... but if you are just doing this to have a casual home theater experience, when you want it, its a perfect setup. I have a couple friends/family who run similar scenario setups because they don't like to be bothered with the receiver everyday for day to day listening. Only when they play games or watch movies... or get into that mind set that they want BIG SOUND.. like weekends and vacations.

For me... I'm a bit mental... if my walls aren't rattling... my nerves will be rattling instead... i need my sound loud! Its not for everyone though. :)

Hi everyone. I am new to the forums, but I have been reading lots of posts before today. I have the 705 and am still trying to make sure I need it, as opposed to saving almost $200 by dropping to the 605.

I have the following setup:

My TV is the Samsung's LN-T4042H, which I got this week during the awesome CC drop to $999, combined with $100 Comcast price drop and a 10% off online deal. So I paid about $810. They just raised the price back to $1299, so I got a steal.

My receiver is the TX-SR705, which I also got from CC a few days ago for the current $719 - another 10% online coupon. So I paid about $650, which is great for me, although not as good as the sweet $500 deal that some of you have gotten.

My PS3 was purchased on another incredible deal. I used the Meijer special 20% credit card deal that they run occasionally, along with the 10% off your first Meijer card usage. That got my PS3 down to $380.

I am pretty thankful for these deals, or I wouldn't have been able to spend the $650 to get this awesome receiver.

So far, I haven't had any issues with the receiver. I have never heard a single pop while switching inputs, or switching from blu-ray movies to games on the PS3, or switching sound channels. My Audyssey speaker set up went well the first time. The only thing that was an issue was my fault, in not having the powered sub gain a little higher. It still picked it up fine though. The sound of movies and games is just incredible - even using my old Panasonic Mini System speakers. All I did was replace the old 18-20 guage wire with new 14 gauge. Also, I am using a separate subwoofer. It is an 8 or 10 year old Optimus, with about 300W+ and it's own remote control and crossover.

My questions are still focused on whether dropping to the 605 would make me miss out on any important features. The only thing I think I would use is the THX. Other than that, I am not sure if I would miss anything.

Any thoughts?

2 reasons to buy 705... THX and 1 more HDMI... there are a host of other good reasons to buy it (including a better amp, more efficient power supply then the 605 and 805, etc)

I think for a majority of us here bought it for that THX .. the extra amperage and extra hdmi was just a nice extra... the price increase was worth it to get a very nice THX receiver with next gen decoding..... for only 550-650 bucks... thats a sweet deal... and worth it!

You need to decide if THX is important to you. It gets my vote and probably "everyone" here on this thread.

Some additional temp readings.

When I started up its 26C/78F. I took my DVD off the top so I have about 4" clearance on top and open all around. Ambient 73F, volume -18
41C/105F after an hour. After another 1/2 hour up to 43C/109F.

It was cruisin at 43/109 for a long time, another hour, so I cranked the volume up to +4, about all my ears could take, and the temp climbed up to 47/116 in about 10 min, so volume is certainly a heat consideration. It should be, shouldn't it??:)

I go back to -18 dB and after 15 min we drop to 43/109. Not a bad recovery, damn good in fact. Well, we learn a couple of things. Heat rises with power output, no surprise there, the DVD player on top of the AVR adds about 5F (based on last nights results) and the AVR responds well to changing loads. Helluva unit.

I own a KILL A WATT meter, if you dont know what that is (http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html), you can check it here.

Before I bought this 705 I collaborated with a forum member via PM's regarding the power consumption of these different units. (He also owned a kill a watt meter and went to best buy to test the 605, 705 and 805's power consumption In relation to each other.)

When we looked at the numbers you would expect a small, medium, large effect.. being that the amplifier had a linear increase of amplifier output... so you would expect power usage to also be increasing evenly.

The surprise was that it doesn't. The 705 operates at nearly the same power consumption of the 605 while the 805 is a much larger jump up in power consumption. the fact that 705 was manufactured at a later date then the 605/805 I think they made changes to the internal power handling of the 705 unit to make it more efficient. I also think this is why the 805 gets so overheated, while the 705 doesn't have issues.... if changes were not made to the 705, it would be between the 605/805 power wise the 2 units. Something IS different.

A little fact I am not sure people know here... but sharing it. Its one DEFINITE reason to respect the 705 in comparison to 605 and 805.

Interesting point on the DVD settings. I had the player on Bitstream and was not getting all the listening modes as I stated. However, just as an experiment I swtiched the DVD player to PCM and now the Onkyo is showing many more choices including PLII Movie and many of the other "missing" choices.Gday Mstoller,

I had this similar question a little way back so hopefully i can shed some light on your situation.

Basically because you only have 5.1 speakers hooked up, and are feeding a bitstream dolby digital signal to it, the onkyo wont allow you to use any listening modes whose sole purpose is to extract/create the rear 6.1 or 7.1 speaker sounds - this is the dolby PLIIx, THX Neo:6 and others. When you are feeding a bitstream dolby digital 5.1 signal, the listening modes available are only those that will do/add something to the dolby digital, such as theatre mode and so on. You are pretty much best in this case to leave it on "Dolby D" or the THX equivalent (i think THX Cinema and/or THX Music) as that is the whole point - it knows how to decode the dolby encoded signal and send the correct signals to the correct speakers.

If you had 6.1 or 7.1 setup then PLIIx and the THX equivalents, NEO:6 etc etc, would be available as they are used to create the rear surround speaker channels. But since you have no rear surrounds, you dont get PLIIx etc available (and infact there would/should be no point in having them available).

Same applies if you are sending DTS as bitstream... can only choose the listening modes that are applicable to DTS format, and none of the ones that are for matrixing in the surround back speakers

Now, the reason why you then do get more listneing modes selectable when you set your player to PCM mode is because PCM over optical/coax digital is only 2ch capable (only HDMI has the bandwidth for full multichannel via PCM format), so basically the onkyo does allow listening modes that can process that 2 channel PCM into a 5 channel signal. In this case, you (and i originally) incorrectly assume that "PCM must be better" because you get more selectable listneing modes, however, it is actually that your player is only sending 2 channel information (thus "PCM is worse than bitstream"), and the receiver is synthesizing the rest.

Im not sure what the THX Neural 5.1 mode does... given it has 5.1 in its name, that implies to me that it isnt for making surround rear channels, and thus i would expect it to be available on Dolby/DTS bitstream inputs. But im not sure if it is or not. It would come down to the particulars of that listening mode... perhaps it actually generates a 5.1 stage from stereo (2 ch) input sources only. Would need to look up what/how Neural 5.1 works

** Note that when i say PCM only handles 2 channel this refers to PCM over optical or coax... as mentioned above - if using HDMI, then it has the bandwidth to send multiple uncompressed PCM channels.

So basically, bitstream is what you want your DVD player set to, and it is normal/correct that you then have a more limited set of available listening modes.


Hi I just got my 705 hooked up today and Used 1 HDMI input an it worked great All of my other components are hooked up to opt1 or opt 2 or coax 1 but I can't get any sound from any of them. I know I am messing up somehow but can' figure out what I am doing wrong. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.have you assigned the digital audio inputs to the correct AV receiver input channels? For example, if you are using Optical 2 for your cable box, make sure the CABLE/SAT source has Optical 2 set as its assigned audio input.

If you're still having problems, you should list exactly what devices you have and how they are hooked up



My questions are still focused on whether dropping to the 605 would make me miss out on any important features. The only thing I think I would use is the THX. Other than that, I am not sure if I would miss anything.

Any thoughts?other benefits of the 705 include the fully backlit and programmable/learning remote, the ability to matrix in 6.1 or 7.1 ontop of a dolby 5.1 signal if you are running 6 or 7 speaker setup (the 605 cant do this), the better audyssey multiEQ setup (more advanced/more litening positions), 3 HDMI inputs instead of 2, the blue light on the volume knob (had to say it lol!), and the THX certification. It also has 2 fans so we can feel abit better about its heat handling ability. Not to mention the apparent lack of problems experienced on the 705 that seem to affect the other models (including the 605) like popping etc.

Up to you to make the call if you want/need these differences, but personally i feel all of these points justify the 705 over the 605 for my situation.

Are you still running all analog.. composite/RCA only?
Or do you have a HDMI setup?

If you don't care about HDMI pass through.. you don't need to turn on your receiver just to watch tv or dvd's.

On the back of your tv you should have audio output of some sort.. RCA or optical... just pass those cables from your tv to your receiver. Take your dvd player audio outputs and still keep those inputed to the tv (not the receiver).

So the connection path looks like this: cable box to tv... dvd player to tv.... tv audio out to receiver.

Now you can watch tv without the receiver being on... you can watch dvd's without the receiver being on. If you ever want to crank up the experience flip on your receiver. Whatever audio is coming out of your tv will also play out of your receiver when you turn it on.

This is like blasphemy to the hardcore listener "audiophile-type" person... but if you are just doing this to have a casual home theater experience, when you want it, its a perfect setup. I have a couple friends/family who run similar scenario setups because they don't like to be bothered with the receiver everyday for day to day listening. Only when they play games or watch movies... or get into that mind set that they want BIG SOUND.. like weekends and vacations.

For me... I'm a bit mental... if my walls aren't rattling... my nerves will be rattling instead... i need my sound loud! Its not for everyone though. :)Assuming that his cable box and dvd player also have digital audio ouputs, could he potentially run these direct to the onkyo as well, and assuming they output analogue sound over the red/white RCA to the tv at the same time as digital sound over optical/coax to the receiver, then you would be able to have better dolby surround for your DVD player when you did want to listen through the receiver, rather than having the analogue red/white audio forwarded from thetv to the receiver. Just mute the tv speakers while listening through the receiver. Also wouldnt need to hook the audio out from the tv to the audio in on the receiver, if both cable and DVD are hooked directly to onkyo with the superior ddigital audio conenction

I replied to all of my PM's that had a email id, if you haven't received it make sure you included your email.

Thanks....

PM you the email address. Thanks.

I purchased a 705 tonight and so far looks like a good unit. I have one question though.. I am running a HD DVD A2 to it via HDMI. I have all of the sound modes set to direct but I am only getting PCM not Multi Ch PCM. I have the A2's Digital output HDMI set to auto which really opened the sound from when I selected just PCM. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Thanks,
J

I have the 705, but not the A2. I run the PS3, Xbox360 Elite, and TiVo S3 thru HDMI. One issue I experienced which sounds like yours was with the PS3 playing SACD; depending on which modes you select in the PS3 menu the 705 may or may not play them; sometimes defaulting to something else. I believe anything higher than 24/96 isn't accepted in muti-channel, but is in 2 channel (by the 705). Once I tweaked those settings it fixed my issue. Maybe someone who has an A2 can help more. What are the options under HMDI out besides auto? Does the A2 let you select bitrates, etc for PCM output?

The only HDMI options I have is Auto. PCM and Downmixed PCM.. I had it set to PCM at first and the DD tracks were actually louder then the TrueHD track. When I switched it to Auto it really opened up. Both were still showing as PCM only. As far as I can tell there is no selection on the bitrate

J

2 reasons to buy 705... THX and 1 more HDMI... there are a host of other good reasons to buy it (including a better amp, more efficient power supply then the 605 and 805, etc)

I think for a majority of us here bought it for that THX .. the extra amperage and extra hdmi was just a nice extra... the price increase was worth it to get a very nice THX receiver with next gen decoding..... for only 550-650 bucks... thats a sweet deal... and worth it!

You need to decide if THX is important to you. It gets my vote and probably "everyone" here on this thread.

I strongly agree, I bought for those good reasons. :)

I replied to all of my PM's that had a email id, if you haven't received it make sure you included your email.

Thanks....

Thanks man...........I was able to use it without any hassle. What a saving.
this is a sweet deal. Again thank you very much. mrgribbles will be glad for this because he knows I missed the first offer for the same amount about few weeks ago well technically I missed it again but thank you for your generosity I was able to pricematch it without any problem.

Peter

The only HDMI options I have is Auto. PCM and Downmixed PCM.. I had it set to PCM at first and the DD tracks were actually louder then the TrueHD track. When I switched it to Auto it really opened up. Both were still showing as PCM only. As far as I can tell there is no selection on the bitrate Hmm. Well I'm not sure why it doesn't show up as multi-channel. Do you have sound from surround speakers? Depending on how you have your audio options set up on the 705 you should only have stereo sound if it's PCM but not multi-channel. As far as the volume level; it probably has something to do with dialog normalization, which (I think) can be turned off on the 705. Or the lack of multi-channel could just be some kind of HDMI communication glitch between player and receiver. I do get multi-channel light with the PS3, but haven't paid that much attention to whether I always get it, or if it's dependent on audio codec, etc.

Thanks man...........I was able to use it without any hassle. What a saving.
this is a sweet deal. Again thank you very much. mrgribbles will be glad for this because he knows I missed the first offer for the same amount about few weeks ago well technically I missed it again but thank you for your generosity I was able to pricematch it without any problem.

Peteryou guys over there sure seem to get a sweet deal with retailers... hell would freeze over before we'd have retailers here in oz who would give you a 28 day after purchase date price guarantee, let alone all these coupons for 10 or more % off ANYTHING, let alone insane ninja price drops (what is even the point of these? surely they are moving alot of units anyway?).

Plus there is all this talk of people buying one model, taking it home, then needing to decide within x days whether they want to keep it, or siply take it back and get the next model up/down as it suits them. here once youve bought it, unless the store was really nice or the item was actually faulty or falsely advertised, you couldnt simply take it back! And what happens to all the units that you guys do take back? Do they just get repackaged and sold to the next person (if so can you every really be sure you are buying a "new" item), or do they all get sent back to the manufacturer, who repacks them? If the latter that has gotta be pretty costly for them, not to mention a lot of unnecessary messing around, considering the customer who returned it did so for very un-serious reasons (eg being very finnicky or simply deciding i think id rather get the 805!)

Are these all things which are given to you through consumer protection laws?


On a somewhat related note, i want to get a harmony remote but the ones in australia dont have RF (logitech too cheap to pay licensing costs for RF transmission in australia). Eg we get the 1000i, not the 1000 and we get the 880 instead of the 890. in both cases they are similar./identical, just without the RF. I would really like to get one with RF, so need to look to purchase in US or EU and ship it here... but most places (amazon etc) wont ship international, and alot of people on ebay charge rediculous prices to send one over here. Ideally id like a harmony 1000 plus the RF wireless extender, but dont want to pay excessively for it. Any ideas where i can look?

Been lurking around here for a while; and I am grateful that we have such a bunch of smart people around here, because I need them :). I am having a strange HDMI handshake issues between the 705 and Comcast STB (DCT 3416). Unfortunately, my TV doesn't accept 720P (only 480i/p & 1080i). The trouble I am having is that whenever I leave the cable box or 705 off for any amount of time, say 5 mins and turn it back on, the HDMI resolution resets to 720P and I can only watch SD tv, none of the HD channels would show picture; I get sound just fine. I have to manually go into the STB and change the HDMI back to 1080i for me to get any picture; the same issue happens again the next time I turn on the devices, it's like some event during the handshake is changing hdmi to 720 instead of 1080. It's rather frustrating to have to go into the STB menu each time to change the resolution.

I am connected via HDMI from STB to 705; and HDMI to DVI to my TV. I will appreciate any input; so far I am loving the sound of the receiver.

Thanks

Been lurking around here for a while; and I am grateful that we have such a bunch of smart people around here, because I need them :). I am having a strange HDMI handshake issues between the 705 and Comcast STB (DCT 3416). Unfortunately, my TV doesn't accept 720P (only 480i/p & 1080i). The trouble I am having is that whenever I leave the cable box or 705 off for any amount of time, say 5 mins and turn it back on, the HDMI resolution resets to 720P and I can only watch SD tv, none of the HD channels would show picture; I get sound just fine. I have to manually go into the STB and change the HDMI back to 1080i for me to get any picture; the same issue happens again the next time I turn on the devices, it's like some event during the handshake is changing hdmi to 720 instead of 1080. It's rather frustrating to have to go into the STB menu each time to change the resolution.

I am connected via HDMI from STB to 705; and HDMI to DVI to my TV. I will appreciate any input; so far I am loving the sound of the receiver.

Thanks

This may be your TV but being that it worked before the receiver (I assume) this is odd. I own same cable box as you. turn off power on cable box, and click menu button on the remote. You get to the cable boxes hidden menu. Among the options you can change are the HDMI output resolution. Try playing around with these and see if you have any luck , you may get lucky. I don't think this will do the trick, but worth a shot to start with the simple stuff.

NOTE: the comcast boxes hidden menu is onscreen. Maybe plug the box directly into the tv to change setting then move it to the receiver and see if you have handshake issue. try all settings you want and repeat.

On a somewhat related note, i want to get a harmony remote but the ones in australia dont have RF (logitech too cheap to pay licensing costs for RF transmission in australia). Eg we get the 1000i, not the 1000 and we get the 880 instead of the 890. in both cases they are similar./identical, just without the RF. I would really like to get one with RF, so need to look to purchase in US or EU and ship it here... but most places (amazon etc) wont ship international, and alot of people on ebay charge rediculous prices to send one over here. Ideally id like a harmony 1000 plus the RF wireless extender, but dont want to pay excessively for it. Any ideas where i can look?

Scarecrow... not sure if you're the kind of guy who puts his faith in strangers but if you are you could do something like this....
Buy the remote from Amazon, have it shipped to someone stateside and in turn have them ship it to you via USPS. I'm an ebay seller and sold alot of watches last year that ended up in japan and the UK, only ever had 1 package in 70 with an issue. There will still be a decent shipping charge (from memory somewhere in the 20-30 dollar range) but it's a possible solution. Send me a PM if you're interested.

Been lurking around here for a while; and I am grateful that we have such a bunch of smart people around here, because I need them :). I am having a strange HDMI handshake issues between the 705 and Comcast STB (DCT 3416). Unfortunately, my TV doesn't accept 720P (only 480i/p & 1080i). The trouble I am having is that whenever I leave the cable box or 705 off for any amount of time, say 5 mins and turn it back on, the HDMI resolution resets to 720P and I can only watch SD tv, none of the HD channels would show picture; I get sound just fine. I have to manually go into the STB and change the HDMI back to 1080i for me to get any picture; the same issue happens again the next time I turn on the devices, it's like some event during the handshake is changing hdmi to 720 instead of 1080. It's rather frustrating to have to go into the STB menu each time to change the resolution.

I am connected via HDMI from STB to 705; and HDMI to DVI to my TV. I will appreciate any input; so far I am loving the sound of the receiver.

Thanks

Handshake is a known issue with Moto 3416. There have been firmware updates by Moto that specifically address this issue. Get Comcastic to zap your box with the latest firmware. Go to Wiki and search out the 6412 and 3416, there is a listing of all the firmware releases. BTW. Its the Moto box that queries the TV and/or the 705 for the handshake. IOW, the source controls the handshake.

The only HDMI options I have is Auto. PCM and Downmixed PCM.. I had it set to PCM at first and the DD tracks were actually louder then the TrueHD track. When I switched it to Auto it really opened up. Both were still showing as PCM only. As far as I can tell there is no selection on the bitrate

J

If your "Audio Out" is set to YES then all you will get in the receiver is a really poor rendition of 2 ch PCM, regardless of the source. Double check that. I have an XA2 so it should be somewhat close and I have my HDMI audio set to AUTO. On SD material it will pass the bitsream DD or DTS but when playing THD it will send MCH PCM. Very likely the audio out setting.

Scarecrow... not sure if you're the kind of guy who puts his faith in strangers but if you are you could do something like this....
Buy the remote from Amazon, have it shipped to someone stateside and in turn have them ship it to you via USPS. I'm an ebay seller and sold alot of watches last year that ended up in japan and the UK, only ever had 1 package in 70 with an issue. There will still be a decent shipping charge (from memory somewhere in the 20-30 dollar range) but it's a possible solution. Send me a PM if you're interested.yeah sellers on ebay normally inflate the postage to 50USD or more, even for just normal USPS so i was hoping some guys on here would be able to help me out by taking delivery and posting it for the "real" price. Onkyo owners of the world unite! hehe

Are you still running all analog.. composite/RCA only?
Or do you have a HDMI setup?

If you don't care about HDMI pass through.. you don't need to turn on your receiver just to watch tv or dvd's.

On the back of your tv you should have audio output of some sort.. RCA or optical... just pass those cables from your tv to your receiver. Take your dvd player audio outputs and still keep those inputed to the tv (not the receiver).

So the connection path looks like this: cable box to tv... dvd player to tv.... tv audio out to receiver.

Now you can watch tv without the receiver being on... you can watch dvd's without the receiver being on. If you ever want to crank up the experience flip on your receiver. Whatever audio is coming out of your tv will also play out of your receiver when you turn it on.

This is like blasphemy to the hardcore listener "audiophile-type" person... but if you are just doing this to have a casual home theater experience, when you want it, its a perfect setup. I have a couple friends/family who run similar scenario setups because they don't like to be bothered with the receiver everyday for day to day listening. Only when they play games or watch movies... or get into that mind set that they want BIG SOUND.. like weekends and vacations.

For me... I'm a bit mental... if my walls aren't rattling... my nerves will be rattling instead... i need my sound loud! Its not for everyone though. :)

That's the way my old receiver was hooked up. I thought it would be blasphemy too if I didn't get all I could out of this receiver. That's why I hooked it up the audiophile way. :) I just wanted to be able to watch TV at times without having the receiver going all the time. I'm assuming it's ok to keep the receiver on for hours on end then? I watch alot of TV/Video and play music and don't want to wear out my new AVR.:D

Assuming that his cable box and dvd player also have digital audio ouputs, could he potentially run these direct to the onkyo as well, and assuming they output analogue sound over the red/white RCA to the tv at the same time as digital sound over optical/coax to the receiver, then you would be able to have better dolby surround for your DVD player when you did want to listen through the receiver, rather than having the analogue red/white audio forwarded from thetv to the receiver. Just mute the tv speakers while listening through the receiver. Also wouldnt need to hook the audio out from the tv to the audio in on the receiver, if both cable and DVD are hooked directly to onkyo with the superior ddigital audio conenction

This is along the lines I was thinking. I don't want to lose the better sound or the upconverting for that matter. Even though my TV seems to offer a better picture when hooked directly to the cable box.

I found something of interest regarding the way the Onkyos deal with not having choices for FLAT, AUDYSSEY and FRONT target curves. In Secrets' review of the 805 (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_14_3/onkyo-tx-sr805-receiver-9-2006-part-4.html):

"The saving grace is that while the Onkyo implements Audyssey with its default Audyssey curve, when in any THX Cinema mode, it implements the Flat curve. This is good, because Audyssey's curve compounded with Re-EQ would result in a sound decidedly on the dryer side of things, especially if your room has decent acoustics to begin with."

Also, when in THX Cinema, you can undo the THX rolloff by hitting RE-EQ... with the caveat that you have to do it every time (i.e. it doesn't save the RE-EQ as OFF persistently). I'm sure this is probably the same way the 705 handles things. I'm going to tinker with it tonight and see how it sounds.

I have a small issue with mine. I have my HD cable box and Xbox 360 running into the 705 with component, and out to the TV via HDMI. My PS3 is running in and out via HDMI. When watching cable or the 360 (HD DVD) on any dark scene, I am getting a thin, faded white 'line' on the top 1/2" of the screen. When using the PS3 the picture is 100% perfect. On any bright scene I cant see it but it is really bothering me when I can see it. It obviously has something to do with the component in/HDMI out setup. Anyone think I have a bad unit? Other than that is works fantastic. No popping or anything.

I havent tried running component OUT for the cable or X360 yet. Im gonna try that tonight and see how that works.

I have a small issue with mine. I have my HD cable box and Xbox 360 running into the 705 with component, and out to the TV via HDMI. My PS3 is running in and out via HDMI. When watching cable or the 360 (HD DVD) on any dark scene, I am getting a thin, faded white 'line' on the top 1/2" of the screen. When using the PS3 the picture is 100% perfect. On any bright scene I cant see it but it is really bothering me when I can see it. It obviously has something to do with the component in/HDMI out setup. Anyone think I have a bad unit? Other than that is works fantastic. No popping or anything.

I havent tried running component OUT for the cable or X360 yet. Im gonna try that tonight and see how that works.

On certain source material/stations with comp in HDMI out I will get an 1/8" white/noisy band on the top of my screen. If I change channels it goes away, come back its there. So I guess its material specific. Happens about 25% of the time but it shouldn't happen at all. Even though my anomaly is smaller than yours, I agree it can be distracting. I have not taken the time yet to try and get rid of it, but I will try later on.

Yep sounds like you have the same problem. Mine seems to be worse on any of the HD channels. I hate you have the problem as well but it makes me feel better to know someone else is having the same thing happen :) I can live with it but my eyes always gravitate towards it when watching something. Ive been worrying that I may have a bad unit but I guess it is just something that 'happens' when using that input/output.

On powered subs, what is the advice for settings on the sub prior to running Audyssey? My sub has Level, Crossover, and Phase.

Yep sounds like you have the same problem. Mine seems to be worse on any of the HD channels. I hate you have the problem as well but it makes me feel better to know someone else is having the same thing happen :) I can live with it but my eyes always gravitate towards it when watching something. Ive been worrying that I may have a bad unit but I guess it is just something that 'happens' when using that input/output.

Most of the TV I watch is HD so when viewing HD material I'm HDMI in & out. No issues. Is yours this way all the time or random?

Well my cable box only has comp and DVI out. I tried using a DVI/HDMI cable at first but the receiver wouldnt accept it that way. My PS3 is HDMI in and out and there are no issues with it. Just on the comp in/HDMI out. It really is only about an 1/8" like yours but I really just seem to notice it on any HD channels (or the 360).

Do i want my audio from my PS3 set to PCM or bitstream?
I thought bitstream was the way to go but when i went to change it last night the PS3 yelled at me and said that all of the audio might not play if i select this.

On powered subs, what is the advice for settings on the sub prior to running Audyssey? My sub has Level, Crossover, and Phase.

Since you want to let the 705 handle crossover, turn the crossover on the sub to its highest point (or disable it if you have a switch for that). You don't want the two crossovers to cascade. This also decreases the group delay that a low pass filter causes (which throws off subwoofer distance settings).

For phase, leave it at 0 if your sub is roughly the same distance as your mains. Audyssey will use the distance reading to line up phase (since distance is basically variable phase control), so just get it as close as you can before running it. If sub phase is significantly off, you'll likely see Audyssey set your sub distance several feet further or closer than its actual physical distance. This is normal, as it is adjusting for the actual delay needed for the sub to fire simultaneously with the other speakers and not necessarily the physical distance.

Level depends on how crazy your level control is. I'd start about half-way, run Audyssey, and see what it comes up with for sub level. If it's ridiculously far away from 0 on the 705, I'd adjust the level on the sub accordingly and re-run Audyssey. If it's only slightly in the negative (say like -3) on the 705, I'd leave it. Lower numbers on the 705 for sub level will help prevent overdriving/clipping of the sub pre-out.

Thanks a heap.

This may be your TV but being that it worked before the receiver (I assume) this is odd. I own same cable box as you. turn off power on cable box, and click menu button on the remote. You get to the cable boxes hidden menu. Among the options you can change are the HDMI output resolution. Try playing around with these and see if you have any luck , you may get lucky. I don't think this will do the trick, but worth a shot to start with the simple stuff.

NOTE: the comcast boxes hidden menu is onscreen. Maybe plug the box directly into the tv to change setting then move it to the receiver and see if you have handshake issue. try all settings you want and repeat.


Thanks to all those who chimed in; I had been in the STB menu a few times to change the resolution back to 1080i; that was the only way I could make the HD channels work. Btw, this was working just fine when I had STB connected directly to the TV via HDMI -> DVI cable. I have since played enough with it to find a temp solution...programmed my remote on the sequence of how the AVR & STB turns on. I have it set to always turn the 705 first and then STB; so far so good; will see if that changes. If it doesn't, will try suggestion from mrgribbles.

Can someone PM with the CC page with that sweet price on this unit? Or a way to get this page from you. Thanks!

Can someone PM with the CC page with that sweet price on this unit? Or a way to get this page from you. Thanks!

I just sent you a PM.

There are a few updates since I last looked at the Onkyo FAQ for receivers. Sorry if its old news to some.

http://www.onkyousa.com/faqs_detail.cfm?cat=Receiver

Me too, Dropzone?

I just sent you a PM.

Can someone send me a PM also, I have continuously checked CC and have not seen the price drop. Thanks in advance.

Me too, Dropzone?

Sent you a PM.

Can someone send me a PM also, I have continuously checked CC and have not seen the price drop. Thanks in advance.

Sent you a PM.

PM someone with your email address so they can email you back the copy of webpage
it worked for me last night with CC. I am at work so I can not scan the copy I got from one of the member in this thread. I was able to pricematched the sale without any hassle.

would someone mind e-mailing me the scan so I could try for the sale price?

Thanks,
eddie

I just got back from CC with 2 brand new 705's (one for me, one for father in law) using the lower advertised price from yesterday.

The first thing I asked them was whether they would price match one of their own online prices, and the sales guy said yes. When I showed him the sheet showing yesterdays price he glanced at his manager asking if they should do it, and the manager gave him the nod. What a deal! I can't wait to get these bad boys home and hooked up in our houses.

Thanks dropzone for the copy of the price, and thanks to whoever first spotted the price drop!

[QUOTE=camaroz06;11553651]would someone mind e-mailing me the scan so I could try for the sale price?

Thanks,
eddie


I'm sending it to you right now. By the way, you might want to remove your email address from this post unless you want a lot of people seeing it! :)

So you took it in and the pricematched on a new sale? Could someone please send me a image of the online ad? I think I'll try the same thing.

I just got back from CC with 2 brand new 705's (one for me, one for father in law) using the lower advertised price from yesterday.

The first thing I asked them was whether they would price match one of their own online prices, and the sales guy said yes. When I showed him the sheet showing yesterdays price he glanced at his manager asking if they should do it, and the manager gave him the nod. What a deal! I can't wait to get these bad boys home and hooked up in our houses.

Thanks dropzone for the copy of the price, and thanks to whoever first spotted the price drop!

I just got back from CC with 2 brand new 705's (one for me, one for father in law) using the lower advertised price from yesterday.

The first thing I asked them was whether they would price match one of their own online prices, and the sales guy said yes. When I showed him the sheet showing yesterdays price he glanced at his manager asking if they should do it, and the manager gave him the nod. What a deal! I can't wait to get these bad boys home and hooked up in our houses.

Thanks dropzone for the copy of the price, and thanks to whoever first spotted the price drop!

Score! That was quick, you must be down the street from a CC. I have gotten like 10 requests for that page in the last few minutes. Thanks to sreedhar for sending it to me and a few others yesterday. I personally have not tried buying the 705 yet because I'm broke until next week! :( If it works then that's great, if not then I'm glad some others got a good deal.

sreedhart--thank you for the emailed scan of the Circuit City price drop. I stopped by over lunch today and was credited the price difference!

thanks for the help dropzone!

So you took it in and the pricematched on a new sale? Could someone please send me a image of the online ad? I think I'll try the same thing.

PM me your email and I can send it to you.

Sent you a PM.

Can you send me the link please or page? It would be greatly appreciated!

Can you send me the link please or page? It would be greatly appreciated!

Just sent you an email.

:) Wow this is a great thread. I am glad 705 owners are helping each other out to
get the lower price. KUDOS to SREEDHART and Dropzone7.

BTW, I was watching the NFL on FOX last night with neuralTHX7.1 mode
and it was AWESOME. You guys have to try it this weekend. 7.1 of sounds I thought I was in the game....

Peter
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HD1000U w/ 106'' DIY screen
Onkyo 705 :) (my newest baby)
HD a2
panny bd10a
Polk Audio rm7500 (5.1)
Cambridge soundworks (bipole/dipole) backsorrounds

I bought this unit last night from CC. So far, I am happy with this unit.

Does anyone know how long CC will price match?

All 21 PM's I have received have been answered and email sent. If I forgot you please let me know.

I just got back from CC with 2 brand new 705's (one for me, one for father in law) using the lower advertised price from yesterday.

The first thing I asked them was whether they would price match one of their own online prices, and the sales guy said yes. When I showed him the sheet showing yesterdays price he glanced at his manager asking if they should do it, and the manager gave him the nod. What a deal! I can't wait to get these bad boys home and hooked up in our houses.

Thanks dropzone for the copy of the price, and thanks to whoever first spotted the price drop!

Just an FYI for others, I just tried this at lunch at a CC near me and was told they would not price match. I may try a different CC this weekend, but I don't think they're under any obligation to price match it after it goes off of the website. The guy told me that I would have to buy it online and then do a pick up. I would have argued if the price was still lower on the website. :(

Just sent you an email.
Can you email to me also? Not sure if it's too late, but it's worth it.

Can you email to me also? Not sure if it's too late, but it's worth it.

Email sent.

Is there any advantage to using the "Double Bass" feature? It seems as if it only allows the two front speakers and the center speaker to handle some of the bass. Is this true?

I'm trying to catch up on all the posts, and was wondering if anyone figured out the aspect ratio problem when doing component in to HDMI out with the "secret menu" set to "720p." With that setting my Wii and Xbox upconverts to 720p, but the aspect ratio is 4:3. For now, I've left the "secret menu" setting to "AUTO" and get the 480 component IN and the 16:9 aspect ratio.

Thanks for all the help.

DropZone,

Sorry to be a pest, can you please email me the page again. I didn't see it on the earlier email you sent me.
Thanks

DropZone,

Sorry to be a pest, can you please email me the page again. I didn't see it on the earlier email you sent me.
Thanks

Sorry, I think I forgot to attach. Just resent.

All 21 PM's I have received have been answered and email sent. If I forgot you please let me know.

Thank you for the email, it worked perfectly. No questions asked. I am now the proud owner of a 705. Now I just have to catch up with this thread. Thanks a lot guys, especially you dropzone7.

Thank you for the email, it worked perfectly. No questions asked. I am now the proud owner of a 705. Now I just have to catch up with this thread. Thanks a lot guys, especially you dropzone7.

Well, I tried and it wouldn't work. The guy said that he could not honor that price because he has no idea when it was posted that way. He pulled up the current website price of $719.00 and said that was as low as he could go. I didn't buy it yet, but it looks and sounds great in the store. Thanks anyway!

I know it doesn't help new purchasers, but to anyone trying to get refunded for one already purchased from CC: If they give you any lip, print this page (http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/cat/-13317/edOid/105469/rpem/ccd/lookLearn.do#Guarantee) and take it with you.

In the section on price guarantee:
"Even after your Circuit City purchase, if you see a lower advertised price (including our own sale prices) within 30 days, we'll refund 110% of the difference."

That's the way my old receiver was hooked up. I thought it would be blasphemy too if I didn't get all I could out of this receiver. That's why I hooked it up the audiophile way. :) I just wanted to be able to watch TV at times without having the receiver going all the time. I'm assuming it's ok to keep the receiver on for hours on end then? I watch alot of TV/Video and play music and don't want to wear out my new AVR.:D

I bought a fan with ac/dc adapter for mine since i keep mine runnin long periods of time too. Drops temp about 20 degrees.

Also, the receiver has a feature called "Late Night" which normalizes the high and the lows... so you dont wake everyone up in the house cranking up the speakers just to hear people whispering... followed by a giant explosion... (lol.. hate when that happens!)

.. Its like *whisper whisper whisper (wtf are they saying?... lemme crank up the volume) ... then BOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* walls start shaking... ya its the worst at 2 am. :D

That late night mode helps that a lil bit... if you plan on running day and night under the receiver be sure to get familiar with it.

NOTE: I have this plugged into the back of my receiver http://www.buyextras.com/vastulqu92dc.html turns on and off with the receiver.... I have the fan speed set to 1/2... @ that speed you cant hear it.

NOTE: I have this plugged into the back of my receiver http://www.buyextras.com/vastulqu92dc.html turns on and off with the receiver.... I have the fan speed set to 1/2... @ that speed you cant hear it.

Woots, did you open up your 705 and mount it inside, or externally? I haven't bought a 705 yet (I think I'm going to place my order tomorrow) so I haven't been able to scope out where an extra fan would go. I'm also a little nervous about cracking it open as soon as I get it and modifying anything inside, even if it's just an augmentation.

2 reasons to buy 705... THX and 1 more HDMI... there are a host of other good reasons to buy it (including a better amp, more efficient power supply then the 605 and 805, etc)

I think for a majority of us here bought it for that THX .. the extra amperage and extra hdmi was just a nice extra... the price increase was worth it to get a very nice THX receiver with next gen decoding..... for only 550-650 bucks... thats a sweet deal... and worth it!

You need to decide if THX is important to you. It gets my vote and probably "everyone" here on this thread.

Thanks woots. I figured it may come down to the THX factor. Part of me wants it because of the sound and the better power utilization. The other part of me knows that I would still love the 605 and I might not even notice a difference - except in my finances.

Is the 605 popping thing as pervasive as it seems from the forums? Is it loud and noticable? Does it only happen at high volume? I am pretty much between -30 and -20db most of the time. I have never heard it with my 705. I would not want to go to the 605, only to have that happen all the time.

I have made price per feature sacrifices to save money on my TV, so I don't want to spend lots of money on my receiver, which ends up wasted on features I cannot use, or won't notice. I started with the super awesome Sony KDL-40W3000 - at $2200. I found out that PS3 games are in 720p, so they showed up in 1080p with some jagged edges. PS2 games looked terrible. Non-HD cable looked hideous.

So, I decided that I would get a good 720p TV and save some money and I traded in the 40" 1080p set for the best 32" 720p set available - the Sony KDL-32XBR4 - at $1200. I saved $1000 and moved up in quality, but losing 120Hz, 1080/24p, and xYcc color. Then I decided that I thought the 32" was too small when watching non-16:9 format Blu-rays. As I was looking for a 40" 720p set, where I wouldn't spend too much more, I found an awesome deal. I got the Samsung 40" 720p LN-T4042H when CC dropped it to $999 for a couple of days. I used the Comcast $100 and a 10% off coupon to get it for just $800.

I want to make sure every penny of my money spent is realized by what I get. Considering I am moving up from a Panasonic THIB, either Onkyo is a huge upgrade. I have owned Onkyo in the past, so when I heard about their new 05 series I was excited. I was saving for a Sony 3300ES/4300ES but went with the Onkyo. I still wonder if the Sony 3300ES or 4300ES would be better, or of course the drop down to the 605. Thoughts?

Anyone - I am having a problem trying to even listen to the TrueHD or DTD-HD MA tracks. I have a PS3, but it has the newest firmware which allows me to send in bitstream or pcm. I have Blu-ray movies that have those tracks and I select uncompressed pcm, but I can't seem to get the receiver to show anything other than "multi-channel pcm". The only way I can get surround sound through my 5.1 is to use THX. TrueHD and DTS-HD MA don't require 7.1 do they? It didn't look like it from the back section of the manual. Am I missing something silly? I have read the manual and been through it a few times. I have successfully done the Audyssey set up, so it noticed everything fine.

I have a silly question!!! Sorry :)

Can you please tell me where onkyo receivers are made?

Thanks

:) Wow this is a great thread. I am glad 705 owners are helping each other out to
get the lower price. KUDOS to SREEDHART and Dropzone7.

BTW, I was watching the NFL on FOX last night with neuralTHX7.1 mode
and it was AWESOME. You guys have to try it this weekend. 7.1 of sounds I thought I was in the game....



Can someone send me the CC price change link? Is it different than the $719.99?

Anyone - I am having a problem trying to even listen to the TrueHD or DTD-HD MA tracks. I have a PS3, but it has the newest firmware which allows me to send in bitstream or pcm. I have Blu-ray movies that have those tracks and I select uncompressed pcm, but I can't seem to get the receiver to show anything other than "multi-channel pcm". The only way I can get surround sound through my 5.1 is to use THX. TrueHD and DTS-HD MA don't require 7.1 do they? It didn't look like it from the back section of the manual. Am I missing something silly? I have read the manual and been through it a few times. I have successfully done the Audyssey set up, so it noticed everything fine.

I had a question similar to this. I've got a PS3 now. I'm getting a 705 soon. They'll be connected via HDMI. Is PCM the preferred output for the PS3? Back in the day when DD5.1 and DTS receivers first came out it seemed preferred to let the receiver do the decoding, even if your DVD player could do it too. My understanding is that both the PS3 and the 705 can do decoding of TrueHD and DTS-HD now. So, which should be doing the decoding?

Scarecrow420, thanks for your response. The blue dial is very nice :)

Do all the 605's pop, including the newer ones - basically, is it a design flaw / versus firmware or manufacturing?

Is the matrixing good? I have been really debating adding more speakers for the 7.1. Does anyone know of a good wireless speaker pair that I could use for the surround rear channels? I don't have a good speaker wire routing option for 7.1, but I would find a way if it made a big difference.

Right now I am in a rectangle room - 22' wide by about 12' deep. I am near the back wall - right in the middle of the 22'. I am about 8 - 9 feet away from my TV. My front speakers are in the front corners and the surrounds are in the back corners.

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If I went to 7.1, I guess the Surround Rear speakers would need to be on the wall right behind my head? Would I need to move the Surround L and R existing speakers up?

Can someone please PM me the nice deal of the 705. I want one so bad :)

I had a question similar to this. I've got a PS3 now. I'm getting a 705 soon. They'll be connected via HDMI. Is PCM the preferred output for the PS3? Back in the day when DD5.1 and DTS receivers first came out it seemed preferred to let the receiver do the decoding, even if your DVD player could do it too. My understanding is that both the PS3 and the 705 can do decoding of TrueHD and DTS-HD now. So, which should be doing the decoding?

I believe that they just added the PCM output. It used to be bitstream only, so that the decoding was always done on the PS3, then sent to your receiver. So, now you have the PCM option, which allows your receiver to do the decoding. Maybe I have it backwards, but I believe the PCM was the option just added and that is the one you need to use. The PS3 can decode, it's just that you cannot control it there - so people want it done by their receiver instead, because it can do it better.

I believe that they just added the PCM output. It used to be bitstream only, so that the decoding was always done on the PS3, then sent to your receiver. So, now you have the PCM option, which allows your receiver to do the decoding. Maybe I have it backwards, but I believe the PCM was the option just added and that is the one you need to use. The PS3 can decode, it's just that you cannot control it there - so people want it done by their receiver instead, because it can do it better.

Yeah, you've got it flipped around. Bitstream takes the encoded stream, passes it along as pure data (1's and 0's) to your receiver, and then the receiver decodes it to raw audio and pushes it out to the speakers. PCM decodes it in the player (the PS3) and passes along the audio for each channel individually to the receiver.

I guess the reason bitstream was favored in the past is that over optical or coaxial, you could only pass 2 channels of PCM, which didn't help people who had a 5.1 setup. So the easier thing was to pass the encoded bitstream, then let the receiver decode it to all 5.1 channels.

Now with HDMI you can pass all channels in PCM from the PS3 to the receiver, but I'm still not sure if that's "better" than letting the receiver itself decode the TrueHD or DTS-HD audio track.

First post on the forum...just picked up the 705 from Amazon last week. So far it is amazing! Looking forward to lots of listening enjoyment in the future and appreciate the setup tips on the forum.

Yeah, you've got it flipped around. Bitstream takes the encoded stream, passes it along as pure data (1's and 0's) to your receiver, and then the receiver decodes it to raw audio and pushes it out to the speakers. PCM decodes it in the player (the PS3) and passes along the audio for each channel individually to the receiver.

I guess the reason bitstream was favored in the past is that over optical or coaxial, you could only pass 2 channels of PCM, which didn't help people who had a 5.1 setup. So the easier thing was to pass the encoded bitstream, then let the receiver decode it to all 5.1 channels.

Now with HDMI you can pass all channels in PCM from the PS3 to the receiver, but I'm still not sure if that's "better" than letting the receiver itself decode the TrueHD or DTS-HD audio track.

Ooooooohhhhh that probably explains why I cannot get TrueHD or DTS-HD MA to show up on my receiver! Now that you mention it, I feel stupid - bitstream... hmmm bits... hmmm 0's and 1's... DOH!

Can someone please PM me the nice deal of the 705. I want one so bad :)

I tried the "deal" (actually a bit of a sham as it does require some deception) at two different CC's this afternoon and neither would budge in-store below the current web price. If you already purchased it, you'll probably have better luck using this as justification for a partial refund, but I think most people will now be hard-pressed to get in-store sales at this "deal" price. Of course, if anyone knows a CC in the Cincinnati area who is still falling for it, let me know (I'm not dishonest, just opportunistic! :-) )

Well, I tried to get them to refund the difference about 30 minutes ago using the scanned copy and they said without being able to verify it online, they can't do it. Now, most people would just let this go... but I'm a prick, so I have a question:

Did anyone here actually purchase a 705 online at that price this week? If so, could you please PM me your order number and name so I can use that with management to verify that a unit was sold this week at that price? Alternately, could you copy your receipt that shows the price and date, black out any credit card or address information, and scan that for me? Thanks to anyone who can hook me up.

Update: Ignore the above. I called 1-800-THE-CITY and raised hell, and I read them their online guarantee policy. They're crediting my card back the difference. But if anyone here did purchase it for that price during that window, you might speak up so others may use your order number as evidence.

Second update: They gave me a "conflict number" and told me they would contact me in 24-72 hours to let me know what they decide to do. If their decision is in the negative, they'll be getting copies of their online policy, my receipt and the scanned price with a nice letter on my firm's letterhead. (See? Told ya' I'm a prick! It comes from working with lawyers all day!)

I was wondering any body has had a problem setting on audio set up on page 82 on the manual on the 705.

My receiver will not let me adjust the THX audio set up
I scroll down as far as equilize settings and that is it.
My receiver will not let scroll down to # 6.

1 thru 6 are highlighted and when it trys to 6 it defaults back to 1. where the THX audio set up is.

Has any one had this problem.

Thanks

Mike

I was wondering any body has had a problem setting on audio set up on page 82 on the manual on the 705.

My receiver will not let me adjust the THX audio set up
I scroll down as far as equilize settings and that is it.
My receiver will not let scroll down to # 6.

1 thru 6 are highlighted and when it trys to 6 it defaults back to 1. where the THX audio set up is.

Has any one had this problem.

Thanks

Mike

Are you running 6.1 or 7.1? If you're only running 5.1, I think it blocks that option, since the THX Audio adjustment is only for distance between rear surrounds.

I finally took the time a couple days ago to get some solder terminals from Monoprice and do the back of my receiver some proper justice. :)

I thought I'd share some photos. It definitely cleans up how it looks back there. Also makes maintenance a breeze!

BEFORE SHOT
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3500/behindreceiverbeforeshosp8.th.jpg (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=behindreceiverbeforeshosp8.jpg)

AFTER SHOT
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8885/behindreceiveraftershotvq6.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=behindreceiveraftershotvq6.jpg)
Click the thumbnail for full size.

I had a question similar to this. I've got a PS3 now. I'm getting a 705 soon. They'll be connected via HDMI. Is PCM the preferred output for the PS3? Back in the day when DD5.1 and DTS receivers first came out it seemed preferred to let the receiver do the decoding, even if your DVD player could do it too. My understanding is that both the PS3 and the 705 can do decoding of TrueHD and DTS-HD now. So, which should be doing the decoding?

I have been waiting for Monoprice.com to release their HDMI 1.3a cables. they FINALLY came out with them for sale today on the website. I purchase a cable and will see if I am able to get True HD/DTS HD with bit stream over my receiver. Currently, even on bit stream setting I am not getting true hd/dts hd showing up on my receiver via the ps3.

Just to eliminate the possibilities of why that might be... I bought this hdmi 1.3 cable which promises higher bandwidth to pass those new signals. If it doesn't work, I dont lose much other then 25 bucks and a little time.

Ill keep everyone posted if it works.

I finally took the time a couple days ago to get some solder terminals from Monoprice and do the back of my receiver some proper justice. :)

I thought I'd share some photos. It definitely cleans up how it looks back there. Also makes maintenance a breeze!

Hi Woots,
Can you link me to the banana plugs you bought off monoprice?
Thank you

Scarecrow420, thanks for your response. The blue dial is very nice :)

Do all the 605's pop, including the newer ones - basically, is it a design flaw / versus firmware or manufacturing?

Is the matrixing good? I have been really debating adding more speakers for the 7.1. Does anyone know of a good wireless speaker pair that I could use for the surround rear channels? I don't have a good speaker wire routing option for 7.1, but I would find a way if it made a big difference.

Right now I am in a rectangle room - 22' wide by about 12' deep. I am near the back wall - right in the middle of the 22'. I am about 8 - 9 feet away from my TV. My front speakers are in the front corners and the surrounds are in the back corners.

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|FL TV FR|
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If I went to 7.1, I guess the Surround Rear speakers would need to be on the wall right behind my head? Would I need to move the Surround L and R existing speakers up?

I recommend 7.1..... I had a 5.1 setup for a week and later switched to 7.1 (bought 2 more matching sats) and was able to unlock many new DSP options on this receiver to select.

With a 7.1 setup... the front 3 speakers stay the same... the left and right surround go directly in line with your left and right ear on each side of you... place them 3-4 feet above your head. The rear surrounds go on the back wall (behind you)... also 3-4 feet above head level.. spaced 4 feet or so apart.

If you have your couch pressed up against the back wall.. it makes 7.1 hard for you. You really wont get any imaging from them. If you can rotate all your equip in that room 90 degrees.. you could get a better layout for surround sound.

Hi Woots,
Can you link me to the banana plugs you bought off monoprice?
Thank you

This is the kind I got.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040115&p_id=2801&seq=1&format=2&style=

This is the other option they have.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040115&p_id=2943&seq=1&format=2&style=

I have been waiting for Monoprice.com to release their HDMI 1.3a cables. they FINALLY came out with them for sale today on the website. I purchase a cable and will see if I am able to get True HD/DTS HD with bit stream over my receiver. Currently, even on bit stream setting I am not getting true hd/dts hd showing up on my receiver via the ps3.

Just to eliminate the possibilities of why that might be... I bought this hdmi 1.3 cable which promises higher bandwidth to pass those new signals. If it doesn't work, I dont lose much other then 25 bucks and a little time.

Ill keep everyone posted if it works.

I thought that there is no difference in HDMI cables. Isn't the whole concept of a 1.3a HDMI cable a scam? You just need 1.3a senders and receivers, but the cable isn't a specific HDMI version.

I just answered 18 more PM's about this special CC price. A few people have emailed me back to say they struck out. I guess it depends on which store you go to. I'm thinking that I might wait it out and see what happens with pricing on the 705 at online dealers. I think once the "buzz" wears off they should come down a bit in price.

I just answered 18 more PM's about this special CC price. A few people have emailed me back to say they struck out. I guess it depends on which store you go to. I'm thinking that I might wait it out and see what happens with pricing on the 705 at online dealers. I think once the "buzz" wears off they should come down a bit in price.

I still haven't heard what the price deal was that people are trying to get. I paid the current online price of $719 - another 10% = $647.

I still haven't heard what the price deal was that people are trying to get. I paid the current online price of $719 - another 10% = $647.

549.99 b4 tax

I still haven't heard what the price deal was that people are trying to get. I paid the current online price of $719 - another 10% = $647.

Where did you get the extra 10%? Is there an online coupon?

549.99 b4 tax

WOW! That would be amazing.

Where did you get the extra 10%? Is there an online coupon?

Yes, there was an online coupon for 10% off your first online CC purchase of more than $299. That is finished though.

The coupon worked for me - just got home and am setting it up. Thanks!

Well, I tried to get them to refund the difference about 30 minutes ago using the scanned copy and they said without being able to verify it online, they can't do it. Now, most people would just let this go... but I'm a prick, so I have a question:

Did anyone here actually purchase a 705 online at that price this week? If so, could you please PM me your order number and name so I can use that with management to verify that a unit was sold this week at that price? Alternately, could you copy your receipt that shows the price and date, black out any credit card or address information, and scan that for me? Thanks to anyone who can hook me up.

Update: Ignore the above. I called 1-800-THE-CITY and raised hell, and I read them their online guarantee policy. They're crediting my card back the difference. But if anyone here did purchase it for that price during that window, you might speak up so others may use your order number as evidence.

Second update: They gave me a "conflict number" and told me they would contact me in 24-72 hours to let me know what they decide to do. If their decision is in the negative, they'll be getting copies of their online policy, my receipt and the scanned price with a nice letter on my firm's letterhead. (See? Told ya' I'm a prick! It comes from working with lawyers all day!)

I had essentially the same experience. I, too, have been known to have a prickish moment or two, so I stood my ground. Store manager said that the online price "could not be verified," and asked me to call CC customer service -- I said, "Let's do it now...get 'em on the phone!"

After a L-O-O-O-O-N-G and painful phone conversation between me, the manager, and a customer svc. rep who was (let's charitably say) not located in North America, we got essentially nowhere.

The phone rep didn't seem to have a problem with the whether or not the online price could be verified...she was, however, OBSESSED with the fact that I had used a 10% off coupon to make my purchase online for store pickup, and that therefore no adjustments could be made PERIOD. When I asked to speak to her supervisor, she told me he would tell me the same thing. I said that I wanted to hear it from him. She told me there was nothing further she could do, and wished me a pleasant day.

Even the store mgr. was exasperated by the phone rep. She softened considerably, and apologetically offered me a $50 credit on the spot...but before I could accept, she xeroxed everything and told me she'd investigate and get back to me by Monday. The $50 offer will still be good, but they might decide to go all the way.

As to CC's policy, it could be read one of two ways:

"Even after your Circuit City purchase, if you see a lower advertised price (including our own sale prices) within 30 days, we'll refund 110% of the difference. We're with you!

Our policy applies only to advertised prices. It does not apply to special offers or promotions, including rebates, free-with-purchase offers, and special financing."

The price on the scanned sheet was technically NOT an advertised price (which IS covered) but rather a "special offer or promotion" (which specifically IS NOT).

However, the wiggle room is in the previous paragraph, specifically the parenthetical phrase "including our own sale prices." It could be argued that the price on the scanned sheet was one of their "own sale prices," which IS covered.

Judging by the number of folks who had no problem getting the match, it just goes to show how much latitude the individual store managers have.

So, we'll see....

--Mikey

P.S. My thanks again to sreedhar for sending me the price scan!

I finally took the time a couple days ago to get some solder terminals from Monoprice and do the back of my receiver some proper justice. :)

I thought I'd share some photos. It definitely cleans up how it looks back there. Also makes maintenance a breeze!

BEFORE SHOT
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3500/behindreceiverbeforeshosp8.th.jpg (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=behindreceiverbeforeshosp8.jpg)

AFTER SHOT
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8885/behindreceiveraftershotvq6.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=behindreceiveraftershotvq6.jpg)
Click the thumbnail for full size.

Hi there,
those are nice ideas, any kind of sound improvement? Like to get those also.

Hi there,
those are nice ideas, any kind of sound improvement? Like to get those also.

No sound improvement (or loss)... its for cosmetic and easy maintenance only.

I have a silly question!!! Sorry :)

Can you please tell me where onkyo receivers are made?

Thanks
Japan & Malaysia. 605 & 705 are made in Malaysia.

First post on the forum...just picked up the 705 from Amazon last week. So far it is amazing! Looking forward to lots of listening enjoyment in the future and appreciate the setup tips on the forum.

Welcome to the club. You made a good decision and were all looking forward to hearing about your experiences with the 705.

Yeah, you've got it flipped around. Bitstream takes the encoded stream, passes it along as pure data (1's and 0's) to your receiver, and then the receiver decodes it to raw audio and pushes it out to the speakers. PCM decodes it in the player (the PS3) and passes along the audio for each channel individually to the receiver.

I guess the reason bitstream was favored in the past is that over optical or coaxial, you could only pass 2 channels of PCM, which didn't help people who had a 5.1 setup. So the easier thing was to pass the encoded bitstream, then let the receiver decode it to all 5.1 channels.

Now with HDMI you can pass all channels in PCM from the PS3 to the receiver, but I'm still not sure if that's "better" than letting the receiver itself decode the TrueHD or DTS-HD audio track.

Bitstream is actually the raw data plus decoding instructions. PCM is the "pure" digital stream "1s and 0s" after decoding. Everything digital eventually winds up as PCM somewhere in the process before D to A conversion. The discussion (perhaps argument is a more accurate word) is a hot button for some. Most view it that the player decoding to PCM or the AVR decoding to PCM is the same. I would agree in most instances but if you decode in the AVR you do have more or better control over things like bass management, etc. Plus, people like Amir from Microsoft have very technical, maybe hair splitting, arguments that there is a possiblity of "jitter" in the PCM stream. These guys are way over my head but if I had my druthers, I'll decode in the AVR.

I don't have a PS3 but with my Tosh XA2 I set it to AUTO. This way the player will send raw plain Jane DD and DTS for SD material or PCM for DD THD. The best of all worlds at the moment.

Well, I tried to get them to refund the difference about 30 minutes ago using the scanned copy and they said without being able to verify it online, they can't do it. Now, most people would just let this go... but I'm a prick, so I have a question:

Did anyone here actually purchase a 705 online at that price this week? If so, could you please PM me your order number and name so I can use that with management to verify that a unit was sold this week at that price? Alternately, could you copy your receipt that shows the price and date, black out any credit card or address information, and scan that for me? Thanks to anyone who can hook me up.

Update: Ignore the above. I called 1-800-THE-CITY and raised hell, and I read them their online guarantee policy. They're crediting my card back the difference. But if anyone here did purchase it for that price during that window, you might speak up so others may use your order number as evidence.

Second update: They gave me a "conflict number" and told me they would contact me in 24-72 hours to let me know what they decide to do. If their decision is in the negative, they'll be getting copies of their online policy, my receipt and the scanned price with a nice letter on my firm's letterhead. (See? Told ya' I'm a prick! It comes from working with lawyers all day!)

Jeremy you are a Pr**k. They ARE absolutely bound to their 30 day price guarantee but, as I cautioned earlier in this thread, its not a walk in the park to get it. Only the Conans of this world will get it. I had some price adjustments coming when I bought my 705 and it took 2-3 days, maybe 4-5 hours on the phone to pull it off. I enjoy the confrontation therapy and I approach these things with over the top politeness but in the end I'll always win. So will you.

In contrast, Amazon will immediately credit any price in their 30 day window. When I bought my XA2 during the price drop feeding frenzy they did it 3 times in a row. No questions, no hassle, did it via email and I got a positive response each time and in less than an hour.

I hope it doesn't get to the leagal beagle stage but if so it could be fun. I'd like to be a fly on the wall!! Good luck, happy hunting.

These stories tell a great deal about why CC is having financial difficulties. Bad business practices catch up to you in the end.

Anybody can sell you something. Whether you'll be a return customer depends on how you are dealt with if there is an issue or problem. Positive (like Amazon) gets return business. Bad experiences are not repeated.

Got the price match last night with the emailed scan, thanks! Didn't have to argue etc, he said no problem and off I went. Watched Apocalypto BD after I got it all set up, man what a great movie. The main benefit I can see of this thing so far has been the simplification of my system. I removed my external HDMI switcher (anyone want to buy a 3x1 monoprice?) and all the rca and optical connections from my setup. Now I have PS3, HD DVD, and direcTV HR-20 all going HDMI. Previously I had them all HDMI for video, but needed separate audio cables.
As a side note, as I was waiting for the price match I was standing beside the monster cable toslink cables, man those things are overpriced! 50 bucks for 1 meter? I could buy one from monoprice to plug directly into the sun for that much money.

Woots: The PS3 will not output the bitstream of TruHD or DTS-HD yet, you can only get Tru-HD by letting the PS3 decode it to PCM. Outputting bitstream or decoding DTS-HD may come later in an update.

I have been waiting for Monoprice.com to release their HDMI 1.3a cables. they FINALLY came out with them for sale today on the website. I purchase a cable and will see if I am able to get True HD/DTS HD with bit stream over my receiver. Currently, even on bit stream setting I am not getting true hd/dts hd showing up on my receiver via the ps3.

Just to eliminate the possibilities of why that might be... I bought this hdmi 1.3 cable which promises higher bandwidth to pass those new signals. If it doesn't work, I dont lose much other then 25 bucks and a little time.

Ill keep everyone posted if it works.

Please do, I'm curious to see if there is a real difference with these cables, or if it's one of those "monster"-type marketing things.

No sound improvement (or loss)... its for cosmetic and easy maintenance only.

Thanks, Theys sure looks very nice. :)

Price matching nonsense aside, the 705 has cost me a lot of money this week. When I first bought my speakers a few years ago (Polk RTi28 mains, surrounds, rear surround; CSi40 center; SVS 20-39CS+), I only had a 6.1 receiver. So I picked up three pairs of RTi28s, then found someone on the Polk Audio forums who needed a single 28 for 6.1 like I did and sold it (which is why I don't have a 7th speaker).

After buying the 705, I figured I'd just hop on Ebay and find another pair of RTi28s so I could go 7.1. Simple, right? WRONG! I found one pair and was outbid in the last hour when I wasn't at home to up my offer. So then the hunt began for a matching speaker from the same series/year so I could keep my speakers matched. Long story short, I never found RTi28s or 38s. I did, however, find a pair of mint condition RTi70 floorstanding speakers from a Polk forum member, which actually match my CSi40 better anyway. $275 later (awesome price!), they'll be arriving next Wednesday.

So now I have the RTi28s I was using as mains to put on the rear wall. However, I hadn't really ever thought about how I was going to mount them until last night. Because of how close my couch is to my back wall, I need mounts that can angle down about 30 degrees and mount the speakers sideways. So far, it looks like my only option is Omnimount 20.0s.

And then I realized, "Damn, I have to buy a spool of wire, some wall plates, figure out where the studs are, and then find someone crazy to go in the attic and fish wires down to me." And I also realized that switching to the floorstanders up front means I have to find a new place to put my SVS cylinder, which means I need longer wires for that too.

Total bill so far since buying the 705 is right about $530... and I'm sure I'm forgetting to buy something else that won't make itself readily apparent until I'm drilling holes all over the place. Thank you, credit card and lack of priorities! ;)

Is there any advantage to using the "Double Bass" feature? It seems as if it only allows the two front speakers and the center speaker to handle some of the bass. Is this true?

I'm trying to catch up on all the posts, and was wondering if anyone figured out the aspect ratio problem when doing component in to HDMI out with the "secret menu" set to "720p." With that setting my Wii and Xbox upconverts to 720p, but the aspect ratio is 4:3. For now, I've left the "secret menu" setting to "AUTO" and get the 480 component IN and the 16:9 aspect ratio.

Thanks for all the help.

I'd like to know too. I'm having difficulty getting mine to sound right for music especially. Anyone have any ideas how to make my CD's, cassettes and vinyl sound better? Also, can you set the tone control and speaker output for each individual component? Thanks

One more thing. How do I make the picture fill the screen in 16x9 when using my vcr or tv?

I finally took the time a couple days ago to get some solder terminals from Monoprice and do the back of my receiver some proper justice. :)

I thought I'd share some photos. It definitely cleans up how it looks back there. Also makes maintenance a breeze!

BEFORE SHOT
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3500/behindreceiverbeforeshosp8.th.jpg (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=behindreceiverbeforeshosp8.jpg)

AFTER SHOT
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8885/behindreceiveraftershotvq6.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=behindreceiveraftershotvq6.jpg)
Click the thumbnail for full size.


Looks great! I'm ordering these now...thanks for the post.

Please do, I'm curious to see if there is a real difference with these cables, or if it's one of those "monster"-type marketing things.

Ya, its that experimental nature that drove me to buy them... 25 bucks isnt a big deal ... i will prolly go traitor to blu ray soon and buy a hd dvd player.. so i will need an extra cable for it anyway.

Unless the internal gauge of wire is bigger I cant see how it promises better bandwidth. Which means the old gauge of wire wasn't big enough for the bigger bandwidth which i have a hard time believing too.... but no ...No clue... 25 bucks ... i will let you all know when i get those wires next week... I bought the cheapy mailing price cause I am in no rush to experiment. :)

Is there any advantage to using the "Double Bass" feature? It seems as if it only allows the two front speakers and the center speaker to handle some of the bass. Is this true?I'm not exactly sure how this is supposed to work; I assume from the name they are duplicating the bass in the nomal channels (not sub) in the sub channel; but not filtering it out the mains. I turned it off, so I don't know how it sounds. :)

I'm trying to catch up on all the posts, and was wondering if anyone figured out the aspect ratio problem when doing component in to HDMI out with the "secret menu" set to "720p." With that setting my Wii and Xbox upconverts to 720p, but the aspect ratio is 4:3. For now, I've left the "secret menu" setting to "AUTO" and get the 480 component IN and the 16:9 aspect ratio.I have exactly the same situation with my Wii, and ended up doing the same. My Xbox is an Elite, so I use HDMI there, same as PS3.

I just purchased the 705 and got it all set up. My last step was to use the Logitech 880 I have to control everything. For some reason, the 880 doesn't recognize the CBL/SAT input on the 705, so it won't tune the receiver to CBL/SAT. Anyone go through this already?

These stories tell a great deal about why CC is having financial difficulties. Bad business practices catch up to you in the end.

Anybody can sell you something. Whether you'll be a return customer depends on how you are dealt with if there is an issue or problem. Positive (like Amazon) gets return business. Bad experiences are not repeated.

That is ABSOLUTELY how I feel. My 705 came from my local CC, my 52" Vizio came from my local Costco, and everything else (PS3, speakers, stands, shelf unit) came via Amazon and its affiliated sellers. The Amazon part of the deal was flawless, seamless, and the one problem I had (broken speaker stand) was fixed in record time, no hassle, no questions asked.

Will I be inclined to re-visit CC? Hold a gun to my head...maybe.

Will I buy again with Amazon? Without question.

--Mikey

I just purchased the 705 and got it all set up. My last step was to use the Logitech 880 I have to control everything. For some reason, the 880 doesn't recognize the CBL/SAT input on the 705, so it won't tune the receiver to CBL/SAT. Anyone go through this already?

My 880 seems to work fine with CBL/SAT...no special ju-ju, I just went through the normal web setup...though I seem to recall actually going through and re-naming all the inputs to EXACTLY match the 705...as I recall, they were not perfect matches.

But it does work flawlessly for me now, so there's hope....

--Mikey

My 880 seems to work fine with CBL/SAT...no special ju-ju, I just went through the normal web setup...though I seem to recall actually going through and re-naming all the inputs to EXACTLY match the 705...as I recall, they were not perfect matches.

But it does work flawlessly for me now, so there's hope....

--Mikey

I had the same problem, went to the imput screne for the Onkyo in the Harmony setup software. Had to add the CBL/SAT and put everything in the same order as seen on the Onkyo front panel. Then I just had to have the harmony learn the CBL/SAT command. Wasn't difficult works perfectly now.

Got it. Thanks for the help. Seems to be working now!

Just purchased TX-SR705 receiver and love it except for 1 annoyance. When tuning Directv HR10-250 to new channel, repaying last 8 seconds or skipping ahead 30 seconds there is a 0-5 second delay in the sound after picture. This only happens with HD signals. My Yamaha HTR-5490 has no delay. Has anyone else experienced this? Do other brands/models do this?

Did the price match to Circuit City this afternoon with no problems. Still Loving my 705!! :)

Anyone hear listen to their 705 in the +digit numbers?

Just got my price match too at CC, with no problems. Thanks sreedhart!

Just purchased TX-SR705 receiver and love it except for 1 annoyance. When tuning Directv HR10-250 to new channel, repaying last 8 seconds or skipping ahead 30 seconds there is a 0-5 second delay in the sound after picture. This only happens with HD signals. My Yamaha HTR-5490 has no delay. Has anyone else experienced this? Do other brands/models do this?

I experience this constantly. However, even though its bothersome I haven't been to annoyed by it. I usually just ignore the missed audio. Only time it bugs me is when I play my HD DVR footage.. and the DVR cut REAL close to the beginning of the show and I miss the 1st few lines of playback and am forced to rewind. When I switch channel to channel I am used to coming in at the middle so I don't mind any missed audio

Also I never had a 5 second delay.. its usually like 1-2 seconds at most.

You may go to audio delay setting on the receiver and set that to zero... (i know this is millisecond seetings) but every little bit adds to the delay you mention probably. I have mine at zero.

I never thought much about this other then rewinding some DVR playback footage.. never thought to compare apples and oranges.. so other 1080p HDMI passthrough receivers have no delay?

I just purchased the 705 and got it all set up. My last step was to use the Logitech 880 I have to control everything. For some reason, the 880 doesn't recognize the CBL/SAT input on the 705, so it won't tune the receiver to CBL/SAT. Anyone go through this already?

Worked fine for my on my 880 on 1st try.

CBL/SAT on the 880 is labled Video 2

onkyo / hamrony 880
DVD = DVD
VCR = video 1
CBL/SAT = video 2

etc.

Just purchased TX-SR705 receiver and love it except for 1 annoyance. When tuning Directv HR10-250 to new channel, repaying last 8 seconds or skipping ahead 30 seconds there is a 0-5 second delay in the sound after picture. This only happens with HD signals. My Yamaha HTR-5490 has no delay. Has anyone else experienced this? Do other brands/models do this?

I just got mine today. Failed with the scan on the first try yesterday but succeeded today at a different CC. Dude tried to look up the price on the website but failed (half-assed effort), then told his manager that he confirmed it. Just for that I went ahead and bought the 3 year protection for $29.99. Figured I could help out his quota for hooking me up.

Now on to your question. Change your audio settings on the Tivo. Settings - Audio - Digital Output - Dolby Digital to PCM is the setting I'm on. When it was on DD, I would get the delay in HD and not hear the reassuring Tivo beeps. Hope this helps you.

I just got mine today. Failed with the scan on the first try yesterday but succeeded today at a different CC. Dude tried to look up the price on the website but failed (half-assed effort), then told his manager that he confirmed it. Just for that I went ahead and bought the 3 year protection for $29.99. Figured I could help out his quota for hooking me up.

Now on to your question. Change your audio settings on the Tivo. Settings - Audio - Digital Output - Dolby Digital to PCM is the setting I'm on. When it was on DD, I would get the delay in HD and not hear the reassuring Tivo beeps. Hope this helps you.
Thanks! Changing to PCM eliminated the delay.

Is it possible to play the same input source on zone two, I noticed that there is not a speaker switch and wanted to know if I could play a cd on all speakers at same time. Thanks

Just got my new 705 last night and it works great! I bought the 605 last week, another great buy with no problems, but I needed more out of a A/V receiver and wanted to avoid any future problems that everyone is having with the 605. The 705 sounds much better than the 605, I guess due to the extra 10 w per channel. Much cooler as well due to the dual fans.

At last, I picked up my 705. My previous receiver was a Yamaha HTR-5280, and it was quite good. However, this Onkyo, is just amazing. My mains consist of Klipsch speakers, which tended to sound very bright on the Yamaha. With the Onkyo, and the THX processing, it really evens things out. I'm addicted to uncompressed/lossless sound after only a few days, but everything else I've ran through the unit is tremendous. I ran some old LaserDiscs through, and the improvements I hear are phenomenal.

Some minor complaints on the unit: when searching and switching through HDMI signals from the PS3, it sounds pop. Minor annoyance, and wondering if this could be fixed via firmware. Also, I'm not impressed with what the Onkyo does to my LaserDiscs' picture. I tried both S-Video and composite feeds off my Elite CLD-79, and the picture always ended up looking like ass. Is the unit missing a good comb filter? I decided to run the LD player composite straight to my XBR and the results are far better.

Anyone running this unit with Klipsch speakers? How are your results? Any specific speakers you think run better with the Onkyo or have in the past?

Also, sometimes when running Blu Rays, the display will claim HDMI Through...what does this mean? It tends to happen on the menus of a handful of titles.

Definitely the best audio purchase I've ever made. I've never heard sound this good in my home. And this isn't just lossless, but all my lossy sources too. This is such a fun hobby!

AJG

I just purchased the 705 and got it all set up. My last step was to use the Logitech 880 I have to control everything. For some reason, the 880 doesn't recognize the CBL/SAT input on the 705, so it won't tune the receiver to CBL/SAT. Anyone go through this already?

I have the 360 Harmony remote and I just went through each of the input buttons manually inside the TV Settings in the Logitech program and it works great. Have you tried the manual setting adjustments?

I still cannot get a DTS-HD MA input to my 705. When I watch X-Men: The Last Stand, choosing DTS-HD MA in the audio setup, it just shows up as DTS only on the receiver. Any ideas? I only have 5.1, but it shows in the manual as ok with 5.1 so I don't know what to do.

Any ideas?

I still cannot get a DTS-HD MA input to my 705. When I watch X-Men: The Last Stand, choosing DTS-HD MA in the audio setup, it just shows up as DTS only on the receiver. Any ideas? I only have 5.1, but it shows in the manual as ok with 5.1 so I don't know what to do.

Any ideas?

What player are you using?

I still cannot get a DTS-HD MA input to my 705. When I watch X-Men: The Last Stand, choosing DTS-HD MA in the audio setup, it just shows up as DTS only on the receiver. Any ideas? I only have 5.1, but it shows in the manual as ok with 5.1 so I don't know what to do.

Any ideas?


There are "no players" out at the moment that push raw bit stream (undecoded) True HD and DTS HD MA audio to receivers. They all get decoded inside the player and output decoded data via PCM output. If you want to listen to those formats now, let your player do this and just set it to PCM output, its best you can do at the very moment. Down the road set your player to bistream and it will output those formats. (For "down the road"... read below)

HOWEVER, I am happy (very happy) to have found out that players that can output raw bit stream are on the way. In some cases, possibly firmware updates will make this happen on some of these currently owned devices. In other cases all new hardware will need to be bought that have this feature.

You will just need to be patient until this time comes and try to stay abreast of the topic the best you can (these forums are best spot).

I still cannot get a DTS-HD MA input to my 705. When I watch X-Men: The Last Stand, choosing DTS-HD MA in the audio setup, it just shows up as DTS only on the receiver. Any ideas? I only have 5.1, but it shows in the manual as ok with 5.1 so I don't know what to do.

Any ideas?
no existing player can output the DTS-HD MA bitstream, so we're stuck w/ the lossy core for now.

no existing player can output the DTS-HD MA bitstream, so we're stuck w/ the lossy core for now.
I could be wrong but at this point in time no player can decode the MA tracks internally and output over HDMI as MCH PCM, so as VeeArSix states, only the core.

Hey woots. Don't know if you've seen it but all of a sudden I've got a new feature in the Harmony 880 "Button configuration" called "Add a Sequence." I guess this is the long awaited macro feature.


Here's the enrty from the Harmony FAQ:
http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/logitech_en_amr.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=7117&p_created=1189176807&p_sid=g8hmElLi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ 9OCw4JnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9 zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1tYWNybw**&p_li=&p_topview=1

Haven't tried it I just noticed it yesterday. Pretty damn cool.

Hey woots. Don't know if you've seen it but all of a sudden I've got a new feature in the Harmony 880 "Button configuration" called "Add a Sequence." I guess this is the long awaited macro feature.


Here's the enrty from the Harmony FAQ:
http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/logitech_en_amr.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=7117&p_created=1189176807&p_sid=g8hmElLi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ 9OCw4JnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9 zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1tYWNybw**&p_li=&p_topview=1

Haven't tried it I just noticed it yesterday. Pretty damn cool.

I noticed this as well when I updated my remote after adding the 705 to my 880. I'm hoping to give it a try when I get home today.

Well I finally got home yesterday from the beach and went right to hooking up my new 705 which was sitting in my living room since Friday:) I decided to clean up the clutter behind my rack and TV but than I had to rush a bit so I could watch the Seahawks at 4pm, I cut it way too close:) Anyway, I'm short a couple of HDMI cables so right now I'm using the one I had laying around that came with my HD-A2. Well it worked fine for my Directv Tivo box but after the game I swapped it over to my Motorola 6412 III. I only use Directv for Sunday Ticket. I changed the HDMI setting from DVI to HDMI in the Moto box, which I was using to go straight to my Mits 55813 (no HDMI, just DVI), since I now needed audio as well as video on the cable. I unable to get 1080i to broadcast from the moto thru the 705, but it worked fine from the Directv box. I was also severe color issues, reds and greens were way too exagerated. I then was going to give up for the night and went to just run the Moto straight to my Mits again but I couldn't get that too work either anymore. In fact I couldn't even get a pic at all without pressing on the connector of the cable. So all in all I believe I have a bad HDMI port on the Moto because I swapped back to Directv with no issues after all this. I'm now using component for my Moto box and since the Onkyo won't pass 1080i component to HDMI 1080i and my tv won't display 720p I have no HD currently.

One other thing, where does it say that the 705 will only do 720p from comp to HDMI? I don't see it anywhere??? Does anyone know if the Pioneer Elite 92 will do this off hand? The issue is I am using all 3 HDMI's already and then my XBOX 360 plugged into the comp input will only do 480p on my set unless I run directly to the tv. I don't want to settle on this receiver, I want it to have EVERYTHING I need.

Hey woots. Don't know if you've seen it but all of a sudden I've got a new feature in the Harmony 880 "Button configuration" called "Add a Sequence." I guess this is the long awaited macro feature.


Here's the enrty from the Harmony FAQ:
http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/logitech_en_amr.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=7117&p_created=1189176807&p_sid=g8hmElLi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ 9OCw4JnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9 zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1tYWNybw**&p_li=&p_topview=1

Haven't tried it I just noticed it yesterday. Pretty damn cool.

You know whats funny... I was tweaking some settings couple days ago and I saw that feature and I looked into it and it looked like a macro feature. I thought to myself, 'this wasn't here the other day was it'?!?!?

Lol, now that you said that I guess it wasn't. They must have added that feature LITERALLY the day "after" I bought it and set up. I was going to play around and make a macro, but after I learned how to use activities, I cant imagine making anything I need more complex then that. I may play around with it for fun though!

Thx for the heads up... I knew I wasn't losing it.. that button REALLY DID come out of no where! :)

PS: On a side note I became a Harmony 880 addict! I programmed close to every device in the house, from air purifiers, to lights, to bookshelf alarm clock radios, to creative audigy sound card, to 5.1 pc speaker system, etc etc etc... lol.. ya I got out of hand with it. I was amazed that everytime I added something wacky, IT KNEW the model of the remote without training it. That Logitech online database is amazing!

Looks great! I'm ordering these now...thanks for the post.

NP :D