This is the official page for the receiver. Please try to keep on posts here. Since there are a couple of places selling it now, some people can provide reviews on it.

for the users with the 705, is there a popping issue with your speakers

for the users with the 705, is there a popping issue with your speakers

God I hope not. That along with the fact that I can get a good discount through work are the main reasons this is what I am looking at getting.

What are the official prices and what are the cheapest you guys are getting it for?

well...ABT is selling it for a super great price.... you might want to check them out....

MSRP is $899 I believe but if you search you can get it cheaper.

i received my 705 fri, 8/3 took back 605 with speaker popping. 705 is perfect,a true pleasure, everything i was hopeing for. have about 35 hrs. on the 705. no heating issues, popping problems,etc.

i received my 705 fri, 8/3 took back 605 with speaker popping. 705 is perfect,a true pleasure, everything i was hopeing for. have about 35 hrs. on the 705. no heating issues, popping problems,etc.

How hot does it get compared to the 605?

i received my 705 fri, 8/3 took back 605 with speaker popping. 705 is perfect,a true pleasure, everything i was hopeing for. have about 35 hrs. on the 705. no heating issues, popping problems,etc.
Oh please for the love of god dont let me 705 have popping issues.

ABT is selling it for $719, but they don't have any in stock and don't expect them til the end of the month.

Circuit City also is selling for $719, but have none in stock. I'm considering CC with the additional 10% off in store coupon, should counter the sales tax.

OH HELL YES!!!
Im on the phone with JR right now and my rep told me they have it in stock and since i placed a preorder a long time ago he is upgrading my shipping and that i should have it this friday.
/happy dance.

I got my 705 last weekend from Video Only in Seattle and so far everything has been working great. The unit doesn't seem to run that hot (mine gets a bit warm) and I've experienced zero popping issues. Now, I don't have a PS3 and I hear that's where most of the users have heard popping so I won't know for sure if popping has been solved until I hook up an HDMI 1.3 source.

I ran into some video upconversion issues through my xbox but that was mostly because the component->HDMI maxes out at 720p and I was running my xbox at 1080p. For awhile I was getting no video at all even though it still should have outputted at 720p.

Sad to say I'm unable to play guitar hero on it due to a slight, but still noticable, lag in the audio. Reducing the A/V sync to 0 ms doesn't solve this problem so I guess I'll have to live by running the xbox directly to the TV.

ABT is selling it for $719, but they don't have any in stock and don't expect them til the end of the month.

Circuit City also is selling for $719, but have none in stock. I'm considering CC with the additional 10% off in store coupon, should counter the sales tax.
I am not sure if it matters who you talk to at ABT, but I ordered today and was told the 705 would be shipped 3-5 business days...I was quoted two different prices as well, due to the fact that my first call got disconnected. The price I received was less than that mentioned previously on this thread. I realize there is no price talk, so if anyone wants the price I got it for and the sales person I talked to feel free to PM me.

Sad to say I'm unable to play guitar hero on it due to a slight, but still noticable, lag in the audio. Reducing the A/V sync to 0 ms doesn't solve this problem so I guess I'll have to live by running the xbox directly to the TV.
Although I do not own Xbox I believe 805 owners were talking about a fix for this somewhere within Guitar Hero's A/V adjustments and that seemed to solve the problem?

for the users with the 705, is there a popping issue with your speakersIt is according to the loudness setting of the 705 or the 805 which I returned today. When volume is set like when playing a movie loud, but not extreme, the speakers make a popping sound. This happens when PS3 starts to play movie for a split second. Then if you decide to stop movie and restart from where it stopped happens again. When movie is over and you just stop disc play altogether with the PS3 get same pop again. If you lower the volume about 10 to 15 db. lower it sounds more like a click instead of a pop. I just starting muting the volume for my own preference. It is not so bad as to cause damage to speakers, but is very annoying. My Toshiba HD-A2 sounds more like a medium click and not pop sound like the PS3. On the upside my Oppo 981 has no click or pop at all, of course the sound is bitstream instead of PCM, except for SACD using PCM and no pop. Maybe it's the PS3 but the Toshiba HD-A2 does it too, but not near as loud, much more forgiving. After a bit more testing, it's not all that bad, just take some getting use to and the sound once a movie is in progress is FANTASTIC. The 705 in all other respects is a winner for me, so a little pop with PS3, (which Onkyo web site FAQ) say is normal and not a defect.
Things I tried to eliminate problem, or I should say annoyance:
1. Turned off the Audyssey EQ (helped on the 805 made no difference on 705.
2. Changed crossover settings for speakers with many different settings.
3. Checked all my audio settings of PS3 and Toshiba HD-A2.
4. Swapped 3 HDMI cables on my PS3.
5. Swapped 3 HDMI cable on Toshiba HD-A2
6. Said a prayer!
7. The Man upstairs told me to just live with it!

This happens when PS3 starts to play movie for a split second. Then if you decide to stop movie and restart from where it stopped happens again. When movie is over and you just stop disc play altogether with the PS3 get same pop again. If you lower the volume about 10 to 15 db. lower it sounds more like a click instead of a pop. I just starting muting the volume for my own preference. It is not so bad as to cause damage to speakers, but is very annoying. My Toshiba HD-A2 sounds more like a medium click and not pop sound like the PS3. On the upside my Oppo 981 has no click or pop at all, of course the sound is bitstream instead of PCM, except for SACD using PCM and no pop. Maybe it's the PS3 but the Toshiba HD-A2 does it too, but not near as loud, much more forgiving.

Onkyo considers this "normal". Here's the link to your FAQ reference, for others to see:

http://www.onkyousa.com/faqs_detail.cfm?detail=1&id=280

OH HELL YES!!!
Im on the phone with JR right now and my rep told me they have it in stock and since i placed a preorder a long time ago he is upgrading my shipping and that i should have it this friday.
/happy dance.

Cool... hopefully mine will ship, mine has been on preorder since 6/24!

I'm calling my rep first thing tommorrow.

Some people are really getting hosed around by the companies selling the 705.

1Call will refuse to pricematch unless the other company has the sale price on their website AND they have it in stock. Others said the same thing. The problem is, many are advertising it but few actually have it in stock. Amazon sells it at the higher price but it is actually through 1call. Sounds like J&R just got it in stock. B&H has it in-stock but only $5 cheaper than 1call.

ABT had it in stock last night when I ordered mine but said they would probably be sold out by today, which it seems they are. Crutchfield gave me a deal between ABT's and 1call's price but that went to backorder so I cancelled there and ordered from ABT. UPS on my order says they received shipping notice and ABT said I should get it by Friday. Ships from Chicago which isn't that far away.

Hope you guys have luck in getting one soon at a good deal. I really wanted a silver one but didn't want to wait any longer so I grabbed a black one while I could.
My HD-A2 player (dirt cheap prices now) should arrive Thursday so I am getting stoked!

Some people are really getting hosed around by the companies selling the 705.

1Call will refuse to pricematch unless the other company has the sale price on their website AND they have it in stock. Others said the same thing. The problem is, many are advertising it but few actually have it in stock. Amazon sells it at the higher price but it is actually through 1call. Sounds like J&R just got it in stock. B&H has it in-stock but only $5 cheaper than 1call.

ABT had it in stock last night when I ordered mine but said they would probably be sold out by today, which it seems they are. Crutchfield gave me a deal between ABT's and 1call's price but that went to backorder so I cancelled there and ordered from ABT. UPS on my order says they received shipping notice and ABT said I should get it by Friday. Ships from Chicago which isn't that far away.

Hope you guys have luck in getting one soon at a good deal. I really wanted a silver one but didn't want to wait any longer so I grabbed a black one while I could.
My HD-A2 player (dirt cheap prices now) should arrive Thursday so I am getting stoked!

Very interesting. Abt quoted me a price well below what you guys are seeing. I jumped on it immediately with free shipping. The rep that took my order said it would be 10-14 days before delivery. However, I just received an e-mail from the rep who originally quoted my price and he said it should be shipping out tomorrow.

Very odd.

Cool... hopefully mine will ship, mine has been on preorder since 6/24!

I'm calling my rep first thing tommorrow.
Really? I ordered mine on 6/19, right after i saw your post in the official onkyo thread saying that JR was taking preorders.

The funny part was i was just calling to see if they had gotten them in or not, and he put me on hold after taking my order number and cameback a while later and said he upped my shipping for free and that i will get it friday(at least i hope i dont have the tracking number yet). I then asked him about my parents 705 and the same deal he upped the shipping and said they should have it by friday and that the reason it took so long was so that "he saw it leave out the door."

Bad customer service on CCs part. They should offer backorders at the posted prices.


I was frustrated today by my dealings with the various big online vendors regarding the 705 with the run around and more that I was getting as I called some of them. I'd decided that the 705 (either color) really met my needs in performance, size, price and more so really wanted this model over the 805 and 605. It really fits my application perfectly. After researching THX, my room size, future room size (new house), etc, etc.....the 705 fit the bill.

I was really frustrated with CC when I tried to order online, so I called their 800 number and got the run around on their great advertised online price.

I talked to my wife after the incident(s) (my wife really wants a new AVR to replace the dead Sony who has given me spousal approval to purchase....she suggested I go by the CC store on the way home and see what they could/would do. After all I am a very, good customer of CC in the past two years alone I've spent thousands and thousands of dollars there as I prefer CC to BB in all regards.

So I go by and tell my tale to the sales associate and he says let me look and see what I can get. My local store won't be regularly stocking the 705 (order only) but when he looked in the system they had @ their warehouse 180 units of the 705 on hand. Yep.....180! I showed him the web price including web coupon, etc and said get me that at that price or better please. He could not do it w/o manager approval but the manager came over and punched in a password and updated the price and gave it to me for a tad under the best CC online store price! And he even apologized on behalf of the online store.

So now I don't have to wait long....it's due in my local store this Thursday (8/9) morning. I don't have to worry about the Fedex/UPS delivery issues. I don't have to worry about dealing with a remote online vendor if there is a problem. I can go by CC and drop the unit on their counter if I have a problem. In total the price I paid was about $32.00 less than the total price J and R had quoted me, and J and R is out of stock and I would have had to wait. Plus the price is waaaaaaaaaaay lower than the quote ABT gave me.

The morning was frustrating, even with the CC online staff. But the local CC store cam through for me.....they always have.

So now do I need to get better HDMI cables? Are there HDMI 1.3 cables or do any HDMI cables do the trick?

Thanks again to Artslinger who has been so kind and helpful.....I truly have a new friend there!

Bill

I was frustrated today by my dealings with the various big online vendors regarding the 705 with the run around and more that I was getting as I called some of them. I'd decided that the 705 (either color) really met my needs in performance, size, price and more so really wanted this model over the 805 and 605. It really fits my application perfectly. After researching THX, my room size, future room size (new house), etc, etc.....the 705 fit the bill.

Bill


Glad to see you finally got some cooperation and a good deal with a 705 on the way!
Now I bet a bunch of thread readers will speed to their nearest CC to see if they can get this deal. ;)


Please- those who have your units post more impressions/reviews. Are there any online reviews now that this unit is out?

I was informed by the wife yesterday that I need a smaller footprint receiver..and I stumbled across the 705...I was looking at the 875 or the Denon 3808ci. Now the wife says the AVR can't be greater than 15" deep or so. So here is my question: I am buying a 1080P plasma. The BB salesperson says that if I don't buy a 1080P receiver, it makes no sense to have a 1080P plasma. I also have a directv HD DVR, and I am buying 5 B&W CM1/CWM speakers for a 5.1 HT setup. Might get a Blu-Ray DVD player.

Will the 705 work? Do I need a separate amp for the B&W speakers? . Why is the BB salesperson telling me I can't run the 1080P TV through the 705??

Please help! Need to know the pros and cons of using the 705 with a 1080P plasma, and maybe a Blu-Ray DVD player.

The 705 will do just fine - assuming it has no heat or popping noise issues like the 605/805. The salespeople have no clue. Definitely get a 1080p TV. Now you have to decide between LCD and plasma, but that's a different topic (FWIW, I went through the same decision a few weeks ago and got an LCD instead of plasma, the Samsung 4665F).

Be aware that the Onkyos put out a lot of heat, so if you have it in an enclosed cabinet you will need a fan to pull the heat out, your wife may not be happy when it sets her brand new cabinet on fire :)

The 705 will do just fine - assuming it has no heat or popping noise issues like the 605/805. The salespeople have no clue. Definitely get a 1080p TV. Now you have to decide between LCD and plasma, but that's a different topic (FWIW, I went through the same decision a few weeks ago and got an LCD instead of plasma, the Samsung 4665F).

Be aware that the Onkyos put out a lot of heat, so if you have it in an enclosed cabinet you will need a fan to pull the heat out, your wife may not be happy when it sets her brand new cabinet on fire :)

Thanks. I am getting a plasma, becaause I like to watch sports...probably the new Panny 60", but the wife wants only a 50". Marriage sux.

If the cabinet is ventilated, will it be OK?

Why do the BB salespeople tell me that running the TV through a non 1080P receiver will render the TV worthless?

I had a good experience getting a deal at Crutchfield on the 705 but it was backordered. I cancelled yesterday and ordered from ABT. Now the Crutchfield rep called me back today and said they will get them in on 8/13 (Monday). I told him about the forum and he said I could give his direct number. He was very nice. Ziggy @ 1-800-388-2911 ext 3258. He said just tell him that I sent you and he can get you a deal. He came down in price after I told him about other deals. Good luck.

Why do the BB salespeople tell me that running the TV through a non 1080P receiver will render the TV worthless?


Because in my experience the BB lot are way undertrained and even the way BB hooks up and displays their televisons tells you a bit about how serious they are are really being a great electronics retailer. I always think of the BB staff as "blue shirted aisle trolls" just there to make sure you buy something, anything.

I think the 705 willl run your upcoming B&W speakers fine. I've been using much lesser powered amps on my B&W's with great success. I've had an earlier Onkyo and more recently a Sony 5.1 unit running mine and they've been fine. The 705 will likely exceed your expectations. My first amp was an Onkyo and it was the longest running most trouble free amp I've ever owned. Actually, I sold it and a matching tuner this past weekend (both still working like new) to a guy after 19 years of regular use. Onkyo generally makes nice, nice gear.

Bill

Because in my experience the BB lot are way undertrained and even the way BB hooks up and displays their televisons tells you a bit about how serious they are are really being a great electronics retailer. I always think of the BB staff as "blue shirted aisle trolls" just there to make sure you buy something, anything.

I think the 705 willl run your upcoming B&W speakers fine. I've been using much lesser powered amps on my B&W's with great success. I've had an earlier Onkyo and more recently a Sony 5.1 unit running mine and they've been fine. The 705 will likely exceed your expectations. My first amp was an Onkyo and it was the longest running most trouble free amp I've ever owned. Actually, I sold it and a matching tuner this past weekend (both still working like new) to a guy after 19 years of regular use. Onkyo generally makes nice, nice gear.

Bill


Thanks Bill.

Really? I ordered mine on 6/19, right after i saw your post in the official onkyo thread saying that JR was taking preorders.

The funny part was i was just calling to see if they had gotten them in or not, and he put me on hold after taking my order number and cameback a while later and said he upped my shipping for free and that i will get it friday(at least i hope i dont have the tracking number yet). I then asked him about my parents 705 and the same deal he upped the shipping and said they should have it by friday and that the reason it took so long was so that "he saw it leave out the door."

The date difference was that I received an email saying J&R was taking preorders and I let everyone on the forum know. I did not get around to placing the order till that following Monday If I remember right.

Did you check the J&R website, did it say shipped and not processing?

Does anyone know if the 705 has a "hidden menu" like the 805? and do you access it the same way as the 805? such as:
"Based on previous posts in this thread, to access the hidden menu: press & hold AUX on the AVR and push the power/standby button concurrently on the 805"

The date difference was that I received an email saying J&R was taking preorders and I let everyone on the forum know. I did not get around to placing the order till that following Monday If I remember right.

Did you check the J&R website, did it say shipped and not processing?
Ah. I thought you had ordered it at the time you posted they were taking preorders.

Thanks for posting it though. :p
I cant wait till my 705 gets here friday.

Thanks again to Artslinger who has been so kind and helpful.....I truly have a new friend there!

Bill

Great Bill, glad everything worked out. :)

Artslinger,

Yeah, I'll be glad to get my AVR problem resolved and get a new, working unit in place. My wife is really missing not having the surround amp running (were using the TV's onboard speakers :( so she has been pushing me to make a decision and thus pruchase something). I'm glad I did not have to resort to buying an 805...I know it would have been overkill for my needs and probably given me other problems due to its size and heat issues.

I'm sure that it gets confusing and hectic for the online vendors when an exciting, desirable, new product hits the streets. So, I'm sure that I'll give online vendors a shot again, down the road, when another need arises. Hopefully next time I need another item there won't be such a large amount of confusing, and varied information on pricing floating around, and that also next time that I need a product the availablity is better. I suspect that the high demand has caught Onkyo and others by surprise. However, it does look like most people who have recently ordered new equipment online are going to see their gear shortly.....and that fact alone is a testiment to some good service. I hope you see your item soon....sounds like the vendor you used is taking care of things.

B.S.

hidden menu same 605 705 805, upconverts 720p. this is fine for sd channels up to 720p, but will also down convert 1080i to 720p analog to hdmi. if connected right some might get the best of both worlds sd to 720p, hdmi passthrough. but it requires a little remote play.

does anyone know how to make sure the hdmi doesnt downconvert 720p picture

quick question as well... if i plug in the Hr20 from directv via hdmi and i am watching cbs... the picture shown will be 720p instead of 1080i?

quick question as well... if i plug in the Hr20 from directv via hdmi and i am watching cbs... the picture shown will be 720p instead of 1080i?

unless it is set for HDMI passthrough, which then will depend on what resolution your HR20 is set on.

well if hr20 is set on native... can you make the 705 set to passthrough


does anyone who has the PS3 also own a 705... will it have a popping issue?

Ah. I thought you had ordered it at the time you posted they were taking preorders.

Thanks for posting it though. :p
I cant wait till my 705 gets here friday.


Called J&R this morning, the rep said they recieved a shipment of 705s yesterday and mine was going to ship today.
Finally!

RAVEN56706, HDMI in = passthrough HDMI out. I080i in = 1080i out. Only analog inputs can get converted not HDMI.

see now i am afraid of accepting the shipment of the 705... if it has the ps3 problems, i really dread that

if u have 1080i in hdmi it is passthrough out hdmi 1080i

I have a similar concern but I do not have a PS3 (XBOX360). Is the popping issue enough to make someone look at another brand like HK? Thanks in advance.

- Bill


see now i am afraid of accepting the shipment of the 705... if it has the ps3 problems, i really dread that

apparently u got answer before i finished posting, sorry, at work. for analog in not converted maybe ps3 straight to tv , optical to receiver for sound. thats what i did for cable box hd 1080i.

why didnt you put the hdmi from your cable box to the 705?

i have no popping 705, had 605 that did. it hard to believe ps3 could make a problem if it didnt pop without. but cant be sure because not gamer. but either bad unit or not?

went cable hdmi to tv, with opt for sound. also comp.in rec. to hdmi out tv. that way sd channels 720p,1080i went straight to tv,opt. for sound. tv must have 2 hdmi in

I ordered from CC yesterday, just got the shipping notice that I should have it tomorrow. Will be replacing a 605 that I just bought a week ago (back to CC with that), the 605 was just a little too basic for me.

I had no pops on my 605, though, will report on the 705 in comparison.

So, in other words, CC HAS THEM IN STOCK, although the website doesn't say that.

man i have a ps3 and i will test it out... tomorrow it will arrive and i will test it with the ps3... if it pops, i will send it back

timfitz99,sounds like you will be getting new toy. can hardly wait until more get 705, then we will have more to talk about. watching blade 2 last night, thx select 2, locked in quite a good surround sound ride.

all i want to do is... hook up my xbox elite, ps3 and directv hr20 via hdmi.... try to declunk all the cables in the back

went cable hdmi to tv, with opt for sound. also comp.in rec. to hdmi out tv. that way sd channels 720p,1080i went straight to tv,opt. for sound. tv must have 2 hdmi in

Can you please add a little more detail of how to do this? How and what do we need to change in the hidden menu of the 705 (so SD is converted to 720p but 1080i signals are sent directly to the TV (or passed through the 705))? It sounds like we will need component from the cable box to the 705, hdmi from cable box to tv, and hdmi from 705 to the tv. When you change from a SD channel to HD channel I assume you need to change the inputs via the remote. Is there any way to automate this?

I currently have Comcast HD service.

Thanks,
Marc

i also have comcast hd box. i went box to tv hdmi ,opt. for soundto 705. then went component from box to 705 assigned it dvr. u have to get into secret menu to select 720p. it is kind of a pain to select different inputs tv, but i get use to it. also this way i can watch tv without rec. on. i assigned sound cab/sat, and like i said comp.in from box dvr. tv inputs 1,2. i hope this helps, my typing awful.

i think it was power-aux. for secret menu. but u should check a prev. post for this,because if u push power and the wrong button it will clear all setting. then u have to run adussy again

raven56706, if all hdmi in, and hdmi out it will be passthrough

just ordered the 705 from CC online - can't wait to get it. hopefully it and my new ascend speaker set up will arrive at the same time!

thanks for all the info - we'll see if it has enough power that i don't need to upgrade. i'm optimistic.

oh and raven, so ps3 and xbox elite eh? very nice. i have a ps3 and have been wanting an elite.... maybe into the new year.

yeah but i am alittle scared of the popping issues with the ps3... i will test it friday morning(i am going drinking tomorrow night and i get the receiver tomorrow).... so i will let everyone know how it goes...

saltdoc, ive been reasearching those ascend speakers, they are highly rated. if you keep it up i might have to upgrade them too. my wife is scared at what i have become... she probably wants a divorce,but she would have to stop watching 1080p, so i think im safe.

yeah but i am alittle scared of the popping issues with the ps3... i will test it friday morning(i am going drinking tomorrow night and i get the receiver tomorrow).... so i will let everyone know how it goes...

What popping issues with the PS3 are you referring to? It is known that the Onkyo receivers pop when changing audio formats. The PS3 seems to exhibit this more prominently than other devices but it shouldn't be popping during a game or while a movie is playing.

if thats the case, then i shouldnt have a problem... i thought it happens during a movie or watching tv

if it pops during playback,then u have a bad receiver. my 605 had speaker popping during playback. has anyone heard of someone that has gotten a bad 705? onkyo service basically told me it wouldnt be an issue with 705. from what i understood thx doesnt like to put their name on bad products.

Taken from the Onkyo site:
"Is it normal to hear a noise on some newer models during playback of some HD DVD and Blu-ray discs?

With some HD DVD and Blu-ray discs, a noise may be heard during playback. This may occur when the audio format changes during playback, it is not a malfunction."



Im waiting on you guys who actually have the receiver to make comments on the popping issue with the PS3. Im planning on paying international shipping on this baby, but Im waiting to see more comments on it.

well i had an onkyo receiver for 5 years all thx receivers and none were bad

How hot does it get compared to the 605?

I am wondering how it compares in general. I know there's a massive price difference between the 605 and 705 maybe due to the THX certification. I don't want to go nuts on a receiver but I'm interesting in some of the 705's features. Some things I've noticed:

- The 705 has 3 HDMI inputs and the 605 has 2. I will use 2 right away but eventually I can see myself using 4 so then I'm back to researching HDMI switches or directly connecting to the TV.
- The 705 has THX cert which I don't care about.
- The biggest mystery is that the 705 has powered Zone 2. The 605 does not.

Let explain why I care about how the 705 apparently runs its second zone. I want to use the second zone in the same room (iTunes + PS3 etc). Currently I'm using a Mackie mixer into my PC which is craptasically hacky but provides a super awesome multimedia experience. If someone jumps on iChat or I get another notification beep, it just mixes into my cinema experience. Purists might gag at this concept but I find it very suitible to the "convergence thing". Home theater amps don't venture into this "mixer" arena at all, I've looked forever. Home theater is about one input, one output. But in recent years there's been a bunch of multi-zone receivers out there that I could use in an unintended way.

What I'm planning to do to meet my "mix" need is put the 2nd zone in the same room as the 5.1. iTunes and other PC sounds will be stereo most of the time anyway and it beats having a studio type mixer thrown into a home theater space. I'm just going to put the 2nd zones speakers next to the L&R of the 5.1 speakers.

But back on topic, I'm wondering what the alternative is to the 705's powered 2nd zone? Can you buy the Onkyo 2 channel amp and power stereo speakers with the 605? How do people use HDMI pass throughs or pre-outs with an external amp? The 705 might be worth it just for the powered Zone 2 and the extra HDMI port and forget reading about how to use a straight-up amplifier.

I've been researching and lurking here for quite a while. I've decided on the 705s for many reasons, and look forward to ordering it. I have a 20% off full order coupon code from Crutchfield (I received after my first order with them). I do not see any exclusions for Onkyo, so I'm going to use it when I get my 705s from then. Obviously, 20% off the MSRP isn't ($799-$160=$639) too bad of a deal, but I'm guessing that once they start shipping, they will have a more competitive price, then I can take 20% off that. Do any of you have any idea when the 705s will drop in price (below MSRP anyway) at Crutchfield (or with the other dealers..) I "chatted" the other day on-line with them, and they did not seem to want to talk below MSRP. That seemed odd.

Indycanard

I've been researching and lurking here for quite a while. I've decided on the 705s for many reasons, and look forward to ordering it. I have a 20% off full order coupon code from Crutchfield (I received after my first order with them). I do not see any exclusions for Onkyo, so I'm going to use it when I get my 705s from then. Obviously, 20% off the MSRP isn't ($799-$160=$639) too bad of a deal, but I'm guessing that once they start shipping, they will have a more competitive price, then I can take 20% off that. Do any of you have any idea when the 705s will drop in price (below MSRP anyway) at Crutchfield (or with the other dealers..) I "chatted" the other day on-line with them, and they did not seem to want to talk below MSRP. That seemed odd.

Indycanard
I got mine from jr.cm for cheaper than that even before i price matched the CC mislabeled price.

I've been researching and lurking here for quite a while. I've decided on the 705s for many reasons, and look forward to ordering it. I have a 20% off full order coupon code from Crutchfield (I received after my first order with them). I do not see any exclusions for Onkyo, so I'm going to use it when I get my 705s from then. Obviously, 20% off the MSRP isn't ($799-$160=$639) too bad of a deal, but I'm guessing that once they start shipping, they will have a more competitive price, then I can take 20% off that. Do any of you have any idea when the 705s will drop in price (below MSRP anyway) at Crutchfield (or with the other dealers..) I "chatted" the other day on-line with them, and they did not seem to want to talk below MSRP. That seemed odd.

Indycanard

Actually the MSRP for the 705 is $900 so Crutchfield is $100 below that. Look at my earlier post and I give the contact info for a rep who gave me a good deal, $40 off the going rate and free shipping.

RAVEN56706, HDMI in = passthrough HDMI out. I080i in = 1080i out. Only analog inputs can get converted not HDMI.

1. One logical step further: running a 480p DVD player by HDMI will pass through the 705 at 480p, correct?

2. Anyone know, will PAL have any problem running through this receiver?

3. I'm psyched, my 705 and my HD-A2 are scheduled to be delivered tomorrow on my birthday!!!

Actually the MSRP for the 705 is $900 so Crutchfield is $100 below that. Look at my earlier post and I give the contact info for a rep who gave me a good deal, $40 off the going rate and free shipping.

Oops.. So I was wrong on the MSRP. Hopefully I am not wrong on selecting the 705S. My basic plan I believe is ok. My code expires in 4 weeks or so. The price can only go down. I'm off on a 3 week trip next week, so I would not want to order now anyway.

What does everyone think the best setting is for a 7.1 set up playing Blu-Ray and HDDVD.

for some reason not all dvds are equal, i would assume blu-ray, hddvd same. i watched blade 2, last night, and thx select 2,locked in perfect. it was an upconverted sd dvd from my sammy 1200 bd player. so far the best surround test i have put the 705 through. i would also be intrested others favs, and sound modes used. not just when 705 is coming, or best price. please get your 705s, get them set-up and lets get talking,advanced settings,sound modes, etc.

Well I ordered mine from CC today online and received an email saying it would be delivered tomorrow! unfortunately, my new speakers won't be here until the 14th and my basement won't be done until the 15th, so i'm kinda stuck. a lot of time to actually read the manual i guess.....

I cant wait to get mine

One thing I noticed when reading the manual last night is that you can rename your inputs ala Marantz which I think is a awesome feature. I don't know if this is a common feature found on all AVR's nowadays but I think this is going to be my new receiver soon. Definitely in the next month or so!

One thing I noticed when reading the manual last night is that you can rename your inputs ala Marantz which I think is a awesome feature. I don't know if this is a common feature found on all AVR's nowadays but I think this is going to be my new receiver soon. Definitely in the next month or so!


Good to know. My 705 should be here tommorrow.

Finally got my tracking number from JR, mine should be here tomorrow as well.
I cant wait.

Finally got my tracking number from JR, mine should be here tomorrow as well.
I cant wait.

Didn't you get that super low price like me? You know the price match from that early super low CC pricing. I noticed CC up the price so that must have been a pricing error on their part.

I can't believe the rock bottom price I eventualy got on my 705 from J&R.

Didn't you get that super low price like me? You know the price match from that early super low CC pricing. I noticed CC up the price so that must have been a pricing error on their part.

I can't believe the rock bottom price I eventualy got on my 705 from J&R.
Yea i did, they gave me CC's price + what CC would have charged me for tax, which was fair enough and they upped my shipping to second day air so i could get it tomorrow, but i only paid for ground shipping. :cool:

Man am I glad i found this thread. I was this close to getting the Denon for 1300 bucks!

Yea I hope this thread stays active, Im looking forward to peoples comments on this receiver.
:)

Yea i did, they gave me CC's price + what CC would have charged me for tax, which was fair enough and they upped my shipping to second day air so i could get it tomorrow, but i only paid for ground shipping. :cool:


They did the same for me on the shipping except I got free shipping.

I'm impressed with the service from J&R so far.

FYI, I stopped by a CC in Dallas at lunch and they were in stock. YMMV.

Does the "Immediate Display" OSD work over HDMI at all resolutions? What info does it show? I am somewhat concerned that in the manual they recommend that you turn it off. What exactly does it do to the video? Thanks.

I am in the construction planning phase now. Would i need to run a long component and s-video out to my projector as well as an HDMI cable, or will it convert and pass those signals though the HDMI output also?

This would save me a huge amount of money in cables if I only needed to purchase one long HDMI cable from the Onkyo to the projector.

Not that it matters but my sources are:

* an old DirectTV S-Video out
* a region free PAL/NTSC DVD player with component out
* A Media Center PC using a DVI to component cable.

If the Onkyo can pass all of these trough HDMI as well, I won't need to spring the extra cash on a long component out and s-video out. That would be sweet!

Does the "Immediate Display" OSD work over HDMI at all resolutions? What info does it show? I am somewhat concerned that in the manual they recommend that you turn it off. What exactly does it do to the video? Thanks.

I don't think OSD works over HDMI at all, regardless of the resolution. The HDMI seems to be a repeater/pass through so the receiver is not messing with the signal trying to insert its own OSD. I believe the same may be true over component hookup. I know that on my 605 I don't get OSD over HDMI and if I hit the Setup button, then the resolution switches to 480p and all I see is the setup menu, it's not overlaid.

I am in the construction planning phase now. Would i need to run a long component and s-video out to my projector as well as an HDMI cable, or will it convert and pass those signals though the HDMI output also?

This would save me a huge amount of money in cables if I only needed to purchase one long HDMI cable from the Onkyo to the projector.

Not that it matters but my sources are:

* an old DirectTV S-Video out
* a region free PAL/NTSC DVD player with component out
* A Media Center PC using a DVI to component cable.

If the Onkyo can pass all of these trough HDMI as well, I won't need to spring the extra cash on a long component out and s-video out. That would be sweet!

It can convert the analog sources to HDMI, but I don't think the quality of the conversion is very good at all. I have my TiVo hooked up to the TV directly via S-Video as the image going through the 605 S-video and then out on the HDMI was worse. Also, note that 1080i component gets converted to 720p over HDMI, which may be OK for some applications. I'd say first try it with a short set of cables and see which hookup you prefer. I found it very hard to get advice without trying it with your own components. What works for some doesn't work for others.

From those of you who already have the 705 and played with it, any issues with the heat? How hot does it get? And once it gets hot, do you get any popping noises through the speakers (the dreaded problem that the 605 and some 805 owners reported - I have a 605 with the popping noise issue and I'm trying to decide whether I should take my chances with another 605, a 705 or a different brand) thank you

It can convert the analog sources to HDMI, but I don't think the quality of the conversion is very good at all. I have my TiVo hooked up to the TV directly via S-Video as the image going through the 605 S-video and then out on the HDMI was worse. Also, note that 1080i component gets converted to 720p over HDMI, which may be OK for some applications. I'd say first try it with a short set of cables and see which hookup you prefer. I found it very hard to get advice without trying it with your own components. What works for some doesn't work for others.

Good point. I guess I will run the cables anyway. You never know what bizarre old SD box you wind up trying to use down the road.

I don't think OSD works over HDMI at all, regardless of the resolution. The HDMI seems to be a repeater/pass through so the receiver is not messing with the signal trying to insert its own OSD. I believe the same may be true over component hookup. I know that on my 605 I don't get OSD over HDMI and if I hit the Setup button, then the resolution switches to 480p and all I see is the setup menu, it's not overlaid.

The manual implies that it should work over HDMI. Are you saying that it stops displaying the input video, switches to 480p, and just shows the OSD?

The OSD (i.e. volume controls) works on HDMI and all resoltions as far as I know (I haven't tried on 1080p). The Setup screen display on your TV, stops displaying the input, switches to 480p and shows the display.

The OSD (i.e. volume controls) works on HDMI and all resoltions as far as I know (I haven't tried on 1080p).

Ok, thanks. Does the OSD show anything other than the volume (e.g. input signal type, surround mode, etc.)?

The OSD (i.e. volume controls) works on HDMI and all resoltions as far as I know (I haven't tried on 1080p). The Setup screen display on your TV, stops displaying the input, switches to 480p and shows the display.

On my 605 at 1080p or 1080i I don't get any OSD overlaid on the regular image. Doesn't HDMI repeater/pass-through mean that the signal just passes through the receiver HDMI from the source to the display device without any alteration? Maybe the 705 is different from the 605 though the spec lists it the same as "HDMI V1.3 repeater"

Here's what the 705 manual says about OSD (page 93):


These settings determine how the operation
details are displayed.
Immediate Display
This preference determines whether
operation details are displayed
onscreen when an AV receiver/AV
amplifier function is adjusted.
On: Displayed (default).
Off: Not displayed.
Even when On is selected, operation
details may not be output if the input
source is connected to a COMPONENT
VIDEO IN or HDMI IN.


So it doesn't sound like you get any overlaid OSD when using a component or HDMI source.

Walked right in to a CC and got a great price today.

NO popping issues and have left it running for hours.

Nice little receiver.

The size is right, the power is right, set up was easy.....though it took me a while. I've still got some tweaking to do but right out the door I could tell it has a way better surround quality than my previous AVR had been capable of delivering. Of course time has passed and I suppose that my 4 -5 year only dead receiver had been passed up technologically.

When I first got the speaker's setup last night and finally got to turn it on to actual programming I was amazed. A HD version of Battlestar Gallactica was on and the characters walking around in the room on the show sounded as if they were in my living room with me. The Audiissey setup routine seems to work pretty well.

No popping at all so far..

From those of you who already have the 705 and played with it, any issues with the heat? How hot does it get? And once it gets hot, do you get any popping noises through the speakers (the dreaded problem that the 605 and some 805 owners reported - I have a 605 with the popping noise issue and I'm trying to decide whether I should take my chances with another 605, a 705 or a different brand) thank you

I just hooked it up last night, and it gets pretty hot... so hot that I'm not putting anything on top of it. NO POPPING, however, during my 3 hours usage.

It's far hotter than the 605.

Other comments, it feels like a big upgrade to the 605 as far as features go. There are way more sound/video options to modify in the setup menu (which DOES work over HDMI) with the much nicer controller (which IS backlit, contrary to some previous posters).

I love all the new THX modes. You can overlay 7.1 on pretty much anything. There are specific THX 7.1 modes for games, cinema, etc., and each one comes in both Dolby Digital and DTS flavors. I look forward to experimenting.

One weird thing, the Audyssey took me a few tries to get working, claiming there was too much ambient noise. The house was completely quiet except the the house's air conditioning system, which is pretty darn quiet too. So, I had to turn off the A/C (summer in Texas, not fun) to get the Audyssey to work. After that, no more problems.

That said, I'm pretty impressed that the Audyssey on this one (compared to the 605, which maxes at 3) can take up to 8 listening areas into account for its measurements. The "Calculations" mode, though, even for 3 areas, takes a looong time (seemed like 8-10 minutes).

I'll report more after the more extensive testing I do over the weekend, but in short, I highly recommend this over the 605, and will be returning my 2-week old 605 to Circuit City today. : )

Nice to read the controller is backlit, this is also the Onkyo learning controller is that correct?

I decided to go with a Denon AVR-3808ci instead of my problem 605. I did not want to take another chance with an Onkyo, though I love the sound of the 605, I'm sure the 705 and up are even nicer. I've had good luck in the past with Denon, I hope this one is not going to disappoint me.

Now that you're saying the 705 runs even hotter than the 605, I'm glad I didn't try a 705.

I just think the Onkyo runs way too hot, between the LCD TV and the Onkyo 605 the room is the hottest in the house, I have to crank up the A/C while watching a movie and everyone in the house in the other rooms freezes! Of course, this is then good in the winter, you can leave it on all the time with some background music :) If it also made cool air in the summer, I'd be all over Onkyo.

For anyone who has the 705, does it tell you how many channels of PCM its recieving from a source like the PS3?
I know, i can wait to find out till later today... but i dont like waiting. :p

For anyone who has the 705, does it tell you how many channels of PCM its recieving from a source like the PS3?
I know, i can wait to find out till later today... but i dont like waiting. :p

The 605 does so its not a stretch that the 705 will. If you press the display button on the remote a few times you should see "MCH PCM 5.1" or the like.

Nice to read the controller is backlit, this is also the Onkyo learning controller is that correct?

I don't think so.

I don't think so.


mrgribbles how are you nice to see you are sharing your information in this thread as well, I asked a lot of question about the 605 was inclined to buy it but waiting to have it in stock with CC local store don't like waiting on shipping but anyway that's me. Now I may have to go with reciever (705) more power more hdmi input I only have 2 units to connect for hdmi and it 605 should be enough but for a few more bucks I can add 1 more input and thx select 2, I like thx because my current onkyo sr tx701 is thx select and I kind of like that in my new receiver. Thanks

I don't think so.

Not sure, but it has 3 multifunction buttons

mrgribbles how are you nice to see you are sharing your information in this thread as well, I asked a lot of question about the 605 was inclined to buy it but waiting to have it in stock with CC local store don't like waiting on shipping but anyway that's me. Now I may have to go with reciever (705) more power more hdmi input I only have 2 units to connect for hdmi and it 605 should be enough but for a few more bucks I can add 1 more input and thx select 2, I like thx because my current onkyo sr tx701 is thx select and I kind of like that in my new receiver. Thanks

You're too kind. We're all in this together. I'm looking real hard at the 705 meself. Not because I need it, but it does have enough more bells and whistles to warrant a good look see. I'm the one who picked up on CC's $549 price and didn't jump on it when i saw it. What a schmuck!!

Walked right in to a CC and got a great price today.

NO popping issues and have left it running for hours.

Nice little receiver.

Did you have to negotiate/price match/etc to get the great price, or was it listed that way? Do you know if this is a national chain price, sale, etc; or a special for that store?

Thanks,

Has anyone tried to guage the power draw of either the 605,705 or 805 with for example a Kill-A-Wat meter

http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html

PC Power supplies are being made now in the 80% or even higher efficiency range which also means a lot less heat (wasted electrictity) is blowing out the back of a PC

Less efficient Power is alseo much cheaper, I wonder of Onkyo is just not using the most efficient PSU's

You're too kind. We're all in this together. I'm looking real hard at the 705 meself. Not because I need it, but it does have enough more bells and whistles to warrant a good look see. I'm the one who picked up on CC's $549 price and didn't jump on it when i saw it. What a schmuck!!


I missed that too....I would have jump on it, but anyway do you know if this 705 does video switching? check on the specs but says in is not available when I did a comparison chart with 3 other receivers....it is now a little bit higher than 650.00 with CC online.

and it is also nice to see this as official thread for the 705, there is another thread with 705 maybe the mods can combine it. So info will be in this thread.....if not it is okey also. And for those who owned
the 705 please continue sharing your experiences thanks a lot.

I don't think so.


I decided to check on the Onkyo website this is what they have listed, Pre-Pro/Learning Remote - check mark/check mark.

I guess I'll find out soon enough mine is in transit for delivery.

I decided to check on the Onkyo website this is what they have listed, Pre-Pro/Learning Remote - check mark/check mark.

I guess I'll find out soon enough mine is in transit for delivery.

Mea culpa. My bad. Here's what the manual says on the "features" page:

"Backlit/Preprogrammed RI-Compatible Remote with
3 Macros and Mode-Key LEDs"

This is the same terminology used for the 605 which is not programmable. However, there is a section in the manual about remote learning so I guess it is programmable after all. Shoulda been reading instead of typing.

Mea culpa. My bad. Here's what the manual says on the "features" page:

"Backlit/Preprogrammed RI-Compatible Remote with
3 Macros and Mode-Key LEDs"

This is the same terminology used for the 605 which is not programmable. However, there is a section in the manual about remote learning so I guess it is programmable after all. Shoulda been reading instead of typing.

The 705's remote is almost twice the size of the 605's remote. Better layout, etc.

The 705's remote is almost twice the size of the 605's remote. Better layout, etc.


Nice.... :)

I just tested out the 705 with the ps3 and 3 movies:

X-men 3
Pearl Harbor
Black Hawk Down

will give the results when i come back....but i have to say its a great receiver....

Just picked up the SR705 at CC in Sugarland, TX. $667 after $80 price reduction + $50 off coupon. Looking forward to getting it hooked up.

Just got mine from CC in Durham, NC for $670 plus tax. Be aware that tomorrow (Sat) is the last day for the $50 coupon.

I just tested out the 705 with the ps3 and 3 movies:

X-men 3
Pearl Harbor
Black Hawk Down

will give the results when i come back....but i have to say its a great receiver....

Thanks for giving us your take on the 705 and the PS3. (hopefully there are no "popping" issues)

Just got mine from CC in Durham, NC for $670 plus tax. Be aware that tomorrow (Sat) is the last day for the $50 coupon.

Where do you get the coupon?

Where do you get the coupon?

It is on their web site.

I found the code on the website. Do you have to order online in order to use it? I tried going thru the checkout process and didn't see a place to enter the code, so I aborted. Do you have to use a Circuit City issued credit card to use this, by chance?

OK, nevermind; I think I found it; thanks.

1st lemme congratz everyone on their new 705. All this True HD receiver buzz has be ready to pounce on one of these new Onkyo receivers to. I am in the 605, 705, 805 budget. I hear internal component quality wise the 805 is better but the mounting options and overheating issues have me looking more at the 705. Before I make the plunge I would greatly appreciate answer to a few questions I have that seem like red flags to me.

I own a (pre-elite) xbox 360 so I only have component output. I just want to confirm that even if I get into the secret menu the best I can hope for is to be downconverted from 1080p component to 720p hdmi output. Is this correct? Or if there a way to make that signal output to 1080p hdmi also?

I heard the 805 pops a lot and the 605 too. I heard nothing about popping on 705, but logic would tell me that probably does too. Has anyone detected any popping or clicking?

On the same topic I heard ps3 owners with this 805 get popping all the time, is this true? If its kinda true please explain when it happens.

I am a gamer and a movie watcher so if this receiver takes away from my experience it might be better to wait for the next manufacturers to haul out the true hd receivers (I hope thats not true cause i waited a long time already) On the 360 being downconverted if thats true I will just keep component running to my tv and use optical to output directly to the receiver.

Thx in advance!

1st lemme congratz everyone on their new 705. All this True HD receiver buzz has be ready to pounce on one of these new Onkyo receivers to. I am in the 605, 705, 805 budget. I hear internal component quality wise the 805 is better but the mounting options and overheating issues have me looking more at the 705. Before I make the plunge I would greatly appreciate answer to a few questions I have that seem like red flags to me.

I own a (pre-elite) xbox 360 so I only have component output. I just want to confirm that even if I get into the secret menu the best I can hope for is to be downconverted from 1080p component to 720p hdmi output. Is this correct? Or if there a way to make that signal output to 1080p hdmi also?

I heard the 805 pops a lot and the 605 too. I heard nothing about popping on 705, but logic would tell me that probably does too. Has anyone detected any popping or clicking?

On the same topic I heard ps3 owners with this 805 get popping all the time, is this true? If its kinda true please explain when it happens.

I am a gamer and a movie watcher so if this receiver takes away from my experience it might be better to wait for the next manufacturers to haul out the true hd receivers (I hope thats not true cause i waited a long time already) On the 360 being downconverted if thats true I will just keep component running to my tv and use optical to output directly to the receiver.

Thx in advance!
First you dont need "trueHD" in the receiver, the receiver just needs to be able to accept multichannel PCM. But that explanation is much much longer.

I should be getting my 705 within hours and use it with PS3 for games and BRD's so if theres popping, rest assured it will be heard from me.

ok.... let me give my take on the 705.... its the best receiver for the money...

Following components i used for testing:

PS3
XBOX 360
Directv HR20 HD DVR

Setup:

Setting up was easy... plug plug plug and play.... thats it...the settings for the tones i fixed and the bass and treble. The ohms and other audiophile stuff was difficult for me so i didnt touch that.

Testing:

PS3:
X-men 3: DTS HD Master Audio sound was freaking awesome... such great detail and crisp sound. I played the part in the movie when they all fought at Jeans house. The video detail was great too. i tried to play around with the settings and i changed it to THX sound with the HD Master audio settings it was just as good.

Pearl Harbor: Uncompressed 5.1.... great sound.. not as good as the DTS HD but still up a level from what i had before. Some people say that couldnt notice the difference from other settings. Believe me the sound is different. Crisp , clear and detailed.

Black Hawk Down: Uncompressed 5.1... also great sound.... another upgrade from what i had before. The shooting of the guns kept you thinking you were in freaking battle.

XBOX 360:
The sound for all the hd movies were great. i wish i had the Xa2 but its still great. The THX settings help out alot with the movies.

Games: The THX game setting helps out alot. Makes sound alittle more detailed but not alot. It was an upgrade dont get me wrong but not the biggest difference.

Directv HD Hr20:
HBO: Same good stuff... nothing different. The audio is alittle louder now but i think its from the settings i need to play around


Popping Issues:
PS3: now i wasnt understanding here what the popping issue was. I found out at the end of turning the system off i heard the one pop...... so if thats the popping issue... i can live with that. as long as its not on the playback.

4 stars for this receiver.... nothing bad to say yet but so far i cant wait to see more movies.... for the price i paid.... this is a steal.

ok.... let me give my take on the 705.... its the best receiver for the money...

Following components i used for testing:

PS3
XBOX 360
Directv HR20 HD DVR

Setup:

Setting up was easy... plug plug plug and play.... thats it...the settings for the tones i fixed and the bass and treble. The ohms and other audiophile stuff was difficult for me so i didnt touch that.

Testing:

PS3:
X-men 3: DTS HD Master Audio sound was freaking awesome... such great detail and crisp sound. I played the part in the movie when they all fought at Jeans house. The video detail was great too. i tried to play around with the settings and i changed it to THX sound with the HD Master audio settings it was just as good.

Pearl Harbor: Uncompressed 5.1.... great sound.. not as good as the DTS HD but still up a level from what i had before. Some people say that couldnt notice the difference from other settings. Believe me the sound is different. Crisp , clear and detailed.

Black Hawk Down: Uncompressed 5.1... also great sound.... another upgrade from what i had before. The shooting of the guns kept you thinking you were in freaking battle.

XBOX 360:
The sound for all the hd movies were great. i wish i had the Xa2 but its still great. The THX settings help out alot with the movies.

Games: The THX game setting helps out alot. Makes sound alittle more detailed but not alot. It was an upgrade dont get me wrong but not the biggest difference.

Directv HD Hr20:
HBO: Same good stuff... nothing different. The audio is alittle louder now but i think its from the settings i need to play around


Popping Issues:
PS3: now i wasnt understanding here what the popping issue was. I found out at the end of turning the system off i heard the one pop...... so if thats the popping issue... i can live with that. as long as its not on the playback.

4 stars for this receiver.... nothing bad to say yet but so far i cant wait to see more movies.... for the price i paid.... this is a steal.

Great................

What speaker set up you have? 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1?
Did you try to matrix (7.1) the 5.1 uncompressed on blackhawk down or pearl harbor?

Thanks,
Peter

unfortunately i have a 6.1....but it all sounds good none the less

I thought there werent any DTS-HD decoders yet, specifically the PS3 hasnt been upgraded to decode DTS-HD, and so the PS3 would then be sending the "core" DTS track to your 705? Still yields an impressive result i bet, but AFAIK no players decode DTS-HD as of yet.

it says umcompressed master audio is what shows

unfortunately i have a 6.1....but it all sounds good none the less


Thanks for the reply.....I have 6.1 set up also, the reason why I choose 705 over 605 is because:


1. 3 hdmi input
2. thx select 2 ( I have this also in my current onkyo receiver and I like it)
3. It could matrix 5.1 PCM into 7.1 (always nice to know that your avr is ready for
speaker set up upgrade. (please someone correct me if I am wrong)
4. And I know much more.................

again thanks for sharing.....

Peter
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format neutral:
hd a2
panny bd10a

no problem... if anyone wants me to test something out for them let me know..

Great................

What speaker set up you have? 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1?
Did you try to matrix (7.1) the 5.1 uncompressed on blackhawk down or pearl harbor?

Thanks,
Peter

Hi!

FYI

PS3 cant do DTS-HD

Thx for ps3/xbox 360 feedback info guys.

I have one more question I was thinking of buying a Mirage Nanosat 5.1 setup. But I read True HD does not work unless it is 7.1. Is this true? I cant have 5.1 True HD. I cant imagine 2 speakers are going to make or break the requirements of decoding this audio.

Anyone out there have a 5.1 and know they are gettin True HD decoding?

So i got my 705 all set up, im watching Crank, this thing sounds great.

I have several of FOX's dvds with DTS HD, ill test it out, i can pretty much guarantee that its sending just the core DTS to the receiver.

So i got my 705 all set up, im watching Crank, this thing sounds great.

I have several of FOX's dvds with DTS HD, ill test it out, i can pretty much guarantee that its sending just the core DTS to the receiver.

What HD player you watch the crank hd dvd or bluray and what type of bluray player
I asked because I have hd a2 and panny bd10a. It would be nice if this receiver can matrix 5.1 to 7.1 matrix since not a lot of source are coming out yet with 7.1 signal.

I was in Fry's this afternoon and they have the 705 displayed and the guy let me played it a little bit, he put up 5.1 source I have to say in just a little bit of playing
I was really impressed, I tried thx and matrix it sounds great and tried the all channel mode I am really impressed but of course the connection in frys is really limited. Their display is not connected with bluray or hd dvd. But this will be worth the money.

What HD player you watch the crank hd dvd or bluray and what type of bluray player
I asked because I have hd a2 and panny bd10a. It would be nice if this receiver can matrix 5.1 to 7.1 matrix since not a lot of source are coming out yet with 7.1 signal.

I was in Fry's this afternoon and they have the 705 displayed and the guy let me played it a little bit, he put up 5.1 source I have to say in just a little bit of playing
I was really impressed, I tried thx and matrix it sounds great and tried the all channel mode I am really impressed but of course the connection in frys is really limited. Their display is not connected with bluray or hd dvd. But this will be worth the money.
I use the PS3 as my blu-ray player.

And yes it easily matrix's any sound to 7.1. When i first got it hooked up i was matrixing music streamed over an airport express.

Just a few quick things i found out, pressing the "pure audio" button plays the audio as it recieves it from the player. I just did this with 300 BRD selected the dolby TrueHD track and i couldnt even tell the last two speakers werent even on.

Its real easy to matrix 5.1 into whatever mode, theres DTS Neo:6, THX,(several modes of each of those) and nueral 7.1. I need to double check but i believe if you matrix a 5.1 singal into 7.1 all the channels are a little quieter, at least it seemed that way after i put 300 into pure audio mode(i forget what i mode i was coming from but i know it was set to matrix into 7.1)

what is the difference between the 705 and the 805?

Hi!

FYI

PS3 cant do DTS-HD


I think you misunderstood my question, I am not talking about
the movie matrix I am talking the sound processor like matrixing 5.1 to 7.1,
Thanks for the reply tho...


Peter

what is the difference between the 705 and the 805?


the most basic difference between the two is 805 has 130 watts, while the 705 only have 100 watts per channel and I think something to thx, I am sure they are more.........and the price of course..

My home theater is only measured 13 ft width 25 ft long. 605 or 705 are both perfect in my room size but I would go with 705 for more inputs etc. Dang can't
wait to get mine.

Peter

I use the PS3 as my blu-ray player.

And yes it easily matrix's any sound to 7.1. When i first got it hooked up i was matrixing music streamed over an airport express.

Just a few quick things i found out, pressing the "pure audio" button plays the audio as it recieves it from the player. I just did this with 300 BRD selected the dolby TrueHD track and i couldnt even tell the last two speakers werent even on.

Its real easy to matrix 5.1 into whatever mode, theres DTS Neo:6, THX,(several modes of each of those) and nueral 7.1. I need to double check but i believe if you matrix a 5.1 singal into 7.1 all the channels are a little quieter, at least it seemed that way after i put 300 into pure audio mode(i forget what i mode i was coming from but i know it was set to matrix into 7.1)


Wow that's great. Thanks, is that means that when you choose 5.1 uncompressed from the disc menu you can matrix it 7.1 correct? Because from what I read in 605 thread that 605 can't do matrix to 7.1, I have an Onkyo sr tx701 and everytime I press pure audio mode it is really quiter it's like you lower down the volume. But thanks for your reply.

Wow that's great. Thanks, is that means that when you choose 5.1 uncompressed from the disc menu you can matrix it 7.1 correct? Because from what I read in 605 thread that 605 can't do matrix to 7.1, I have an Onkyo sr tx701 and everytime I press pure audio mode it is really quiter it's like you lower down the volume. But thanks for your reply.
Yes you can, this is why i went with the 705.

However when i pressed pure audio mode the audio was louder, than whatever mode was matrixing 5.1 to 7.1

Question... If I connect an HDMI cable from an HD-DVD player to the receiver, and also connect component cables to the same labeled input on the receiver (SAT HDMI and SAT Component, for example) can I configure the receiver to use the audio from the HDMI cable but use the video from the component cables?

My TV does not have an HDMI imput so being able to "turn off" the video recognition of any HDMI cable that is plugged in is paramount to me.

Question... If I connect an HDMI cable from an HD-DVD player to the receiver, and also connect component cables to the same labeled input on the receiver (SAT HDMI and SAT Component, for example) can I configure the receiver to use the audio from the HDMI cable but use the video from the component cables?

My TV does not have an HDMI imput so being able to "turn off" the video recognition of any HDMI cable that is plugged in is paramount to me.

Does your TV have DVI?

No. Just component.

Questions.

Does it run fairly hot? Looks like it needs a lot of ventilation?
Hows the remote? Does it remembers the sound field you were using after shutoff? The OSD goes through HDMI?

Thanks in advance.

Questions.

Does it run fairly hot? Looks like it needs a lot of ventilation?
Hows the remote? Does it remembers the sound field you were using after shutoff? The OSD goes through HDMI?

Thanks in advance.
I watched Crank and 300 back to back and then needed to check my optical that was running from my cable box to it and it was warm but it wasnt even near hot to the touch. I have it sitting on the bottom of my TV stand next to my cable box.

I believe it does remember which sound field you were using, but im not entirely sure.

And OSD.. i assume thats the setup on screen stuff?
After setting the HDMI monitor out to yes you can setup just about everything that i saw over HDMI from your TV.

Does anyone have an opinion on GE-Zurich Warranty Management, Inc. extended warranty offered by abt. Is it worth the 79.00 for 4 years or is it a scam? I purchased the 705 and declined the extended warranty but it doesn't sound unreasonable.

Got my 705 hooked up. Sound is not where I want it yet but I need to do some calibrating. Hard to hear dialog and not enough subwoofer. Should be easy to fix by doing auto calibration and then do my infinity sub calibration.
What I really like is the lack of wires that have to be used to hook up all your AV components!
One HDMI from the HD-A2, one from the DirecTv HR20 and a few from my DVD recorder! There is hardly anything hooked up to the back and it has oodles of inputs!!! HDMI for sound and video is cool and never having to change the input on my projector. Very cool.
Will post more later after I play with it.
There are heck of a lot of options in the 705 menus. I have no clue what I am choosing. At least I got DD 5.1 from my standard DVDs and Multi PCM from my HD-DVDs.

705 may use a different power source (more efficient ?) than the 605/805. According to the Onkyo website

Max power consumption of

805 = 9.2 Amps
705 = 6.2 Amps
605 = 6.5 Amps


http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-SR705&p=s&class=Receiver

Got my 705 hooked up. Sound is not where I want it yet but I need to do some calibrating. Hard to hear dialog and not enough subwoofer. Should be easy to fix by doing auto calibration and then do my infinity sub calibration.
What I really like is the lack of wires that have to be used to hook up all your AV components!
One HDMI from the HD-A2, one from the DirecTv HR20 and a few from my DVD recorder! There is hardly anything hooked up to the back and it has oodles of inputs!!! HDMI for sound and video is cool and never having to change the input on my projector. Very cool.
Will post more later after I play with it.
There are heck of a lot of options in the 705 menus. I have no clue what I am choosing. At least I got DD 5.1 from my standard DVDs and Multi PCM from my HD-DVDs.
I would be carefull with the Audessy auto setup, i just ran it and it turned everything way down and pretty much said everything was full channel.

I would be carefull with the Audessy auto setup, i just ran it and it turned everything way down and pretty much said everything was full channel.

What SPL are you guys using for your reference level? The manual says reference is assumed to be around 82 (I think)... are you using that?

Got my 705 hooked up. Sound is not where I want it yet but I need to do some calibrating. Hard to hear dialog and not enough subwoofer. Should be easy to fix by doing auto calibration and then do my infinity sub calibration.
What I really like is the lack of wires that have to be used to hook up all your AV components!
One HDMI from the HD-A2, one from the DirecTv HR20 and a few from my DVD recorder! There is hardly anything hooked up to the back and it has oodles of inputs!!! HDMI for sound and video is cool and never having to change the input on my projector. Very cool.
Will post more later after I play with it.
There are heck of a lot of options in the 705 menus. I have no clue what I am choosing. At least I got DD 5.1 from my standard DVDs and Multi PCM from my HD-DVDs.

What settings are you using to get Multi Channel PCM?
I have a HD-A20 mine says PCM fs: 48kHz and HDMIthrough?

Funny, its late so I have the volume low. I keep hearing a poping sound :eek:

I forgot about my can of 7up.. LOL

I'm thinking of buying this 705, but I still have a question:

- I have a Xbox 360 non-Elite and I wonder if it's possible that the 705 will accept a 1080p signal via component and send this 1080p signal via the component-out to the tv without any scaling.

Thank you

CC has the ridiculous price for the 705 back online as of early this am. Of interest is that when I opted to pick it up at a local (Atlanta, GA area) it was confirmed. I then when into store availability and it said none. Went to store and picked it up. Plugged it in and away we go. Right now its cooking off the manufacturing remnants, smells like a scorched shirt. Could be my imagination but I think it sounds better than the 605.

For the price I paid its a no-brainer. Jump on it.

Sale price plus 10% coupon worked for me , did an in store pickup, amazing price for an in stock newly released item

I can confirm the new CC pricing, I just got one in Fremont, CA. I'm very excited, I'll go pick it up in a few minutes.

Damn - SCAL seems to be the only area where they are not in stock at any store yet!

Anyways, the price went back up...

Wow that CC price is crazy, i think I will have to pick this up...

Hey guys my cousin has a relatively new pair of sony SSF 6000 floor speakers that he used for his bedroom, and offerred them to me for a good price (120bucks for both.

They can handle up to 180watts, but these should sound fine with the 705 at 100watts? Will this be allright or should i get something different? Let me know because I am going to pick up the 705 in an our. Thanks guys.

You be right, the CC price went back up $200. I stole it. Woot.

I am really impressed with the sound. Could be my imagination. Ran Audyssey and the settings were noticeably different than the 605. I'm going to let it sink in a while before I tweak and ruin everything.

Trying out the THX modes. So far AOK.

Wow that CC price is crazy, i think I will have to pick this up...

Hey guys my cousin has a relatively new pair of sony SSF 6000 floor speakers that he used for his bedroom, and offerred them to me for a good price (120bucks for both.

They can handle up to 180watts, but these should sound fine with the 705 at 100watts? Will this be allright or should i get something different? Let me know because I am going to pick up the 705 in an our. Thanks guys.
They should be ok, i have Polk R50s that handle about the same wattage and they sound great with it.

I love my 705, i watched the Patriot last night matrixed uncompressed 5.1 PCM to nueral THX 7.1, a-maz-ing.
I couldnt be happier with this thing.

I have 4 JBL ( CST 55 ) 8 Ohm speakers, and a center ( CSC 55 ) it is 8 Ohms as well. I can only set 6 or 4 Ohm. Will this damage my speakers? I bought a 674 3 weeks ago, but I returned it last night for the 705. The 674 had an 8 Ohm speaker setting. Am I missing something?

"Wow that CC price is crazy, i think I will have to pick this up..."

I scored one too for that price...savings of $260.00 below list! Looks like my 674 is headed for eBay.

I got this from CC Fri; not the "ridiculous price", but cheaper than they are currently showing it via CC online (they are showing $50 off msrp; when I got it was $80 off; plus another $50 off with coupoon). I played with it for since hooking it up Fri nite. A couple of impressions:

For the most part trouble free operation. Do have popping in menu's, etc w/ BD from PS3; but very moderate and tolerable (to me). No popping of any kind during normal play.

Have PS3, TiVo S3, and Xbox360 Elite hooked up via HDMI; Wii hooked up w/ component. I have a 1 1/2 year old Pio plasma (5060) which doesn't accept 1080p; so I'm pretty much feeding it 1080i from most sources (the Xbox360 does 720p). I have no hdmi handshake or scaling issues. Their is a momentary delay when switching sources, etc, but no big deal.

Lot's of menu options for stuff like max volume, vol on startup, etc. Pretty cool.

I'm using the 705 as a pre/pro with a Sunfire 5 channel amp; in a 5.1 setup. Speakers are Revel F30 LF and RF; C30 ctr; and Linn Katan's as surrounds. Sub is a Sunfire TrueSub. No issues with heat at all in this configuration.

Two issues I've noted. One I'm not sure the cause of; when feeding 480p from the Wii; eve n with the Wii setup for 16:9 the pic comes to the plasma as 4:3. Setting the display to stretch 4:3 mat'l to 16:9 fixes this; but this wasn't necessary before running the video thru the Onkyo. Not a big deal to me; but if you watch much SD and don't want the pic stretched it could be. Second issue is listening to SACD from PS3. Might be just a PS3 issue; but I haven't got it to output multi-channel SACD. The Onkyo says it's receiving multi-channel, so I'm not sure what the issue is yet.

Oh, I also noticed that the onscreen volume control overlay doens't seem to work with HD; only SD (unless I'm doing something wrong). Anyone confirm?

Also, I ran the audessey setup. It came up with a few strange results; set all speakers to full-range; and sub distance to 24 to 30 feet (changed a bit at second setup). I manually changed the center and surrounds to "small" with appropriate X-overs; and set the sub to correct distance. Left the eq on "Audessy". Seems to sound good; but haven't had a lot of time to evauate.

All in all, a good option for someone who wants a reasonably priced receiver or pre/pro with 3 HDMI inputs for sending all video out to display via 1 HDMI; and to all uncomressed audio. I have a Sunfire TG2 pre/pro which I had been using; which was severely short on features in the new HDMI world.

Could someone PM me "the ridiculous price for the 705 back online"?

Thanks

I have 4 JBL ( CST 55 ) 8 Ohm speakers, and a center ( CSC 55 ) it is 8 Ohms as well. I can only set 6 or 4 Ohm. Will this damage my speakers? I bought a 674 3 weeks ago, but I returned it last night for the 705. The 674 had an 8 Ohm speaker setting. Am I missing something?
I was confused by this as well, but in the manual it says "for speakers 6 to 16 ohms leave it at 6ohms"
So you're good to go.

Also, I ran the audessey setup. It came up with a few strange results; set all speakers to full-range; and sub distance to 24 to 30 feet (changed a bit at second setup). I manually changed the center and surrounds to "small" with appropriate X-overs; and set the sub to correct distance. Left the eq on "Audessy". Seems to sound good; but haven't had a lot of time to evauate.This happened to me as well, it set all of my speakers to full range, speaker distance seemed very accurate.
But it turned everything way down and for the most part they werent equal so i changed it.

This happened to me as well, it set all of my speakers to full range, speaker distance seemed very accurate.
But it turned everything way down and for the most part they werent equal so i changed it.I was a little dis-appointed that it wouldn't re-run the Audessey after I manually set the speakers (it overwrties the manual settings). So I'm really not sure whether the EQ using Audessey is accurate now that I've reset the speaker xover points. But I figured I'd leave it like this for a while to evaluate.

I was confused by this as well, but in the manual it says "for speakers 6 to 16 ohms leave it at 6ohms"
So you're good to go.

This happened to me as well, it set all of my speakers to full range, speaker distance seemed very accurate.
But it turned everything way down and for the most part they werent equal so i changed it.


Thanks alot, After I ran the EQ setup it did sound very low. I left the speaker distance alone and changed the level calb back to my settings taste it sounds much fuller. As I am still a little worried about the Hz and best range sounds. I guess moving to the more expensive unit requires alot more effort calibrating.

I have HD DVD, so if any user have one of the Gen 2 models that would care to share there setting and thoughts.

I have the A20.

As well as most of you here seem to have the ps3 it puts out better sound I would also like to hear settings and thoughts from you as well.

Question: Is it at all possible to recve and out any of the new codecs ( audio )
I feel like maybe there is some thing I were missing.

Also if you hold down the display button it will tell you the incoming feed and the out going feed. 1080p 60--------->1080P ( thx 605 thread )

And if you hold down display as soon as the info changes press standby it will tell you firmware info ( thx 605 thread as well )

Lets try to figure this TrueHD and Master HD audio. THX

A quick 705 take:

Price. At CC's 4 hour price this morning, "priceless."

Heat. No hotter than my 605 after 4-5 hours of medium (-22 +/-dB or so) duty use. I can keep my hand on the top of the case so its less than 130-5 deg F. Unless the bottom of the TV starts melting this is a non-issue for me anyhow. Rating A

Pops. None whatsoever. Even when transitioning from rew to play on the XA2. The receiver clicking is audible but very, very faintly. A+

Audyssey. Setup values fairly different than the 605. Sounds good. Audyssey still impresses me. A

SQ. I think its better than the 605. I'm not sophisticated enough to say why but it does. More detailed without being brash. Hows that for audiophilese. A+

PQ. HDMI-->HDMI. No issues. Component-->HDMI. A bit different than the 605, not better, just different. But then, I had the "hidden menu" tweaked on the 605. More news at 11, or whenever. C (For Faroudja)

Post processing. Tried a handful of the available listening modes. PLIIx was fine, THX Cinema and Select2 were fine. Getting to like this Neural thing. More later. A+

DD THD and DTS HD MA bitstreaming. C'mon Toshiba, gimmee the firmware update. No rating yet.

Remote Control. Is there anything it won't do? I'll be weeks figuring his badboy out. Learning too. A

OSD. Still don't like that it shuts down what you're watching/listening to when in setup. No volume over HDMI-->HDMI. C

Overall, very pleased with the new toy. Thank you 605 for the learning curve, it was the nines.

OSD. Still don't like that it shuts down what you're watching/listening to when in setup. No volume over HDMI-->HDMI. C

Is there a possible firmware update? This would also help with setting up the AVR.

I wonder if people are wigging out over the popping for nothing.

From what I can tell, it only does a little pop when the sound TYPE changes.

So for example, I load up POTC Curse of the Black Pearl. The menu sound is 2 ch PCM. When the movie starts up, little pop, because it switched to 5.1 multi PCM.

It never pops during movie playback or anything.

Second issue is listening to SACD from PS3. Might be just a PS3 issue; but I haven't got it to output multi-channel SACD. The Onkyo says it's receiving multi-channel, so I'm not sure what the issue is yet.Well, I think I got this to work (not sure if it's working correctly yet). Tried a few things, including changing the PS3 audio output, if you keep stereo/192 khz checked, but uncheck 5.1/192; but leave 5.1/96Khz it seems to work like I'd expect (for awhile I was getting multi-channel on both "stereo" and "multi" SACD tracks :confused: ; depending on which boxes are checked. The other thing I learned is that depending on what listening mode is selected the Onkyo can do various things to a PCM stream (didn't try this out, really, just started playing with the surround, pure, direct buttons; and haven't figured them out yet). I did this while a DD source was on; so I'm not sure it's related to my SACD issue, I'll have to check into it further.

Got mine today from circuitcity for $494.99......New in box...

I wonder if people are wigging out over the popping for nothing.

From what I can tell, it only does a little pop when the sound TYPE changes.

So for example, I load up POTC Curse of the Black Pearl. The menu sound is 2 ch PCM. When the movie starts up, little pop, because it switched to 5.1 multi PCM.

It never pops during movie playback or anything.
Mine pops on audio type changes like you said, and HDMI handshake if i have the volume rather loud.

Since you bring up POTC Black Pearl, were you watching it on blu-ray?
I just watched it, and at exactly the 1 hour and 54 minute 47 seconds the Onkyo turns off, yes turns it self off. At first i thought the Onkyo overheated because i was listening at about -2 volume :cool: , but then i rewound it to see what we missed, and it happened again, so then i let the movie finish and after the movie finished i was able to duplicate it two more times, at exactly the minute mark i said the Onkyo turns itself off.

Also since we are talking POTC, GOD, disney, i swear. The way they authored these discs the HDMI handshakes like 10 times before you get to the main menu, and it was a freaking pain in the ass to even get the movie to play.

Enigma I got Dark Side of the Moon SACD to play multi channel the first time i put it in, and man was it ever good.

Mine pops on audio type changes like you said, and HDMI handshake if i have the volume rather loud.

Since you bring up POTC Black Pearl, were you watching it on blu-ray?
I just watched it, and at exactly the 1 hour and 54 minute 47 seconds the Onkyo turns off, yes turns it self off. At first i thought the Onkyo overheated because i was listening at about -2 volume :cool: , but then i rewound it to see what we missed, and it happened again, so then i let the movie finish and after the movie finished i was able to duplicate it two more times, at exactly the minute mark i said the Onkyo turns itself off.

Also since we are talking POTC, GOD, disney, i swear. The way they authored these discs the HDMI handshakes like 10 times before you get to the main menu, and it was a freaking pain in the ass to even get the movie to play.

Enigma I got Dark Side of the Moon SACD to play multi channel the first time i put it in, and man was it ever good.

I am playing POTC on a PS3. I thought the handshaking crud was just me. Your right it spams handshaking like crazy. The movie was playing fine tho, but I did not watch it all the way through.

I will go and try to play it at that mark, and PM you if it does the same to me.

Got mine today from circuitcity for $494.99......New in box...

holly cow! 705 for 494, how on the earth :confused: would you like to share please? pm me. thnx

holly cow! 705 for 494, how on the earth :confused: would you like to share please? pm me. thnx

He's doing the sale price, online coupon, and then probably using the 10% off AAA coupon.

Stacking like crazy!

i was wondering if saltdoc received his 705 yet,and hooked up his new ascends. if so did you get the 170, or the 200s for surrounds, 5.1, or 7.1? also what are you doing for sub? i seen someone got a crazy price for 705 congrats all on your new toys. i got my 705 on 8/3 ive been waiting for others to get theirs. maybe now we have something to talk about.

They should be ok, i have Polk R50s that handle about the same wattage and they sound great with it.

I love my 705, i watched the Patriot last night matrixed uncompressed 5.1 PCM to nueral THX 7.1, a-maz-ing.
I couldnt be happier with this thing.

Great.....can't wait to get mine in a few weeks, I missed that CC pricing this morning but I am counting with my friends cousin who worked with xxxxx she is letting me used her employee discount and it is quite low about the same as the crazy price from cc.

He's doing the sale price, online coupon, and then probably using the 10% off AAA coupon.

Stacking like crazy!

Nope, I got the same deal, just the sale price and the 10% email coupon, no AAA coupon.

Last night I got a CC 10% off coupon in email good for yesterday's date so I'll call CC CS and get an additional 10% off. That gets me somewhere in the vicinity of by-tor-74. Woot. What a wicked, wicked price. Its less than MSRP for the 605. We should all be ashamed of ourselves. Mwaaaaaaah.

I have HD DVD, so if any user have one of the Gen 2 models that would care to share there setting and thoughts.

I have the A20.

Question: Is it at all possible to recve and out any of the new codecs ( audio )
I feel like maybe there is some thing I were missing.

Lets try to figure this TrueHD and Master HD audio. THX

On my XA2 I have the HDMI out set to auto. That way if a DD THD track is running it will send MCH PCM. If an SD DVD with DD or DTS 5.1 is running it will send the bitstream for the AVR to decode. Best of all worlds??

No. None of the new codecs over HDMI except as decoded PCM. Toshiba is strongly rumored to be releasing an update to accomplish this and 7.1.

The THD thing is easy. THD decoded in the player and passed as PCM is the same thing as if the AVR does it. DTS HD MA is not yet fully supported in the Tosh players. Will it be? I dunno.

I wonder if people are wigging out over the popping for nothing.

From what I can tell, it only does a little pop when the sound TYPE changes.

So for example, I load up POTC Curse of the Black Pearl. The menu sound is 2 ch PCM. When the movie starts up, little pop, because it switched to 5.1 multi PCM.

It never pops during movie playback or anything.

The pop thing is real but I believe it has primarily plagued the 605 crowd. My original 605 loudly popped at random for a day or two then it went away. A study of the popping poll thread will reveal that Onkyo has owned up to this issue a couple of times although they say it is a small percentage. The poll says its more like 30+%.

My brand new 705 doesn't pop one bit and I ran it through its paces with inputs that would have made it do it. In fact, the transitions from different audio feeds is remarkably transparent, the way it should be.

Hello 705 buyers and owners.

I just bought the 705 at CC from $586 and that is shipping too, Does any one have proplems with the model yet? I should get it by friday. i am gettting rid of my Yamaha HTR 5750

enjoy

Got mine today from circuitcity for $494.99......New in box...

lucky you live in a no sales tax state

elmer 1024/ u should be extreamly happy with 705. i wouldnt have any doubts about that purchase, especially at that price. it is a wonderful receiver. setup is easy, i could do it, and i recently just learned to set the time on my alarm clock! sound is awesome, nothing else out there that compares and the price- remember 705 is just barely step below 805 they list about 1k.

CC has the ridiculous price for the 705 back online as of early this am. Of interest is that when I opted to pick it up at a local (Atlanta, GA area) it was confirmed. I then when into store availability and it said none. Went to store and picked it up. Plugged it in and away we go. Right now its cooking off the manufacturing remnants, smells like a scorched shirt. Could be my imagination but I think it sounds better than the 605.

For the price I paid its a no-brainer. Jump on it.


Good to see mrgribbles on board with the 705, and his in-depth knowledge with the 605.

Finally got my 705 Friday. I won't be much help for reviews since I sold my old surround speakers and I'm upgrading, right now I'm only running a 2.1 setup. There is a light pop when the AVR is changing inputs or audio signals, my older Adcom amps may be the cause of this and thanks to a forum member I can fix this by adding a decoupling cap on the input. The Onkyo 705 does seem a little bright with slightly dead middle tones, what this does though is make for good separation, surround and voice clarity, but not so good for serious music listening. I was able to correct this somewhat with Onkyos excellent manual speaker adjustments. And yes this baby does run hot. I don't see this as a problem as long as you leave plenty of space above the AVR and allow for natural air flow.

elmer 1024/ u should be extreamly happy with 705. i wouldnt have any doubts about that purchase, especially at that price. it is a wonderful receiver. setup is easy, i could do it, and i recently just learned to set the time on my alarm clock! sound is awesome, nothing else out there that compares and the price- remember 705 is just barely step below 805 they list about 1k.
Hi again

I was going to buy the 805 on line for 899.00 at Vans but for the price at CC is was a no brainer , and it was easier to convice my wife.
It shoudl go well with my chorus , focal speakers and FX monitor audio rears .
For a little less power and saving 250 less the 705 seemed like the right choice for me

I just CC again for the status on my order and the 705 is at $749.00 .

I wonder why they change the price so much in 48 hr period ?

Keep up the good review on the 705

Did anyone tried the PIIx? I was at frys the other day and I can't see it, it only display PII.

Did anyone tried the PIIx? I was at frys the other day and I can't see it, it only display PII.

Probably because they didn't have a 7.1 setup. If the back surrounds aren't there or aren't configured then you get PLII, no X.

PLIIx works fine. I'm settling in with the Neural THX 7.1 meself. Very interesting.

i was wondering if saltdoc received his 705 yet,and hooked up his new ascends. if so did you get the 170, or the 200s for surrounds, 5.1, or 7.1? also what are you doing for sub? i seen someone got a crazy price for 705 congrats all on your new toys. i got my 705 on 8/3 ive been waiting for others to get theirs. maybe now we have something to talk about.

Yes i did receive my 705 and opened that baby up. Now THAT is a manly feeling remote. Alas, i have no info yet about it other than that as my speakers don't arrive until tomorrow. Also basement is due to be finished with remodel on wednesday and working basically all day and until late thurs so won't really be able to set up well until weekend. may have something by wed evening though.

oh and i ended up getting the 170s for surround - i'll be running a 5.1 set up. I currently have an old polk psw350 for my sub which will continue until christmas or so i imagine. then am debating between the Hsu VTF3 MKIII and the SVS PB12 NSD. actually somehow already got the ok from the "boss" for this for that time amazingly enough. I'll update with info once I get it set up.

Probably because they didn't have a 7.1 setup. If the back surrounds aren't there or aren't configured then you get PLII, no X.

PLIIx works fine. I'm settling in with the Neural THX 7.1 meself. Very interesting.


Yes you're right they only have 5.1 setup, That is good to know....
Thanks mrgribbles,

Probably because they didn't have a 7.1 setup. If the back surrounds aren't there or aren't configured then you get PLII, no X.

PLIIx works fine. I'm settling in with the Neural THX 7.1 meself. Very interesting.
Im liking the Neural 7.1 as well.

Well, I missed the CC deal of the decade. Ouch. I'll be looking for sales and coupons for a while I guess until they become cheap again. If anyone sees it for a deal again, please let me know.
B.

Me too. That CC price would make me jump on it.

can someone pm me the cc price. im gunna go to a local cc and try to negotiate. thx

For those of you with Harmony/universal remotes. I just programmed my 659 without a problem, the only command i had to teach it was the Cbl/Satellite input.
Everything else i tried works without having to teach it, pure audio, all channel stereo(i prefer this for 2 channel music), THX, surround mode. I just wish there was a button that turned neural 7.1 on without having to scroll through surround modes as so far this is my favorite source for matrixing 5.1 -> 7.1.

I also missed the CC sale by about an hour I think. JR's is the next best thing I think and they can be talked out of shipping :0)

One thing I noticed when reading the manual last night is that you can rename your inputs ala Marantz which I think is a awesome feature. I don't know if this is a common feature found on all AVR's nowadays but I think this is going to be my new receiver soon. Definitely in the next month or so!


This is a very cool feature! So when I am watching DirecTv the display reads:
DVR HR20 which I put in there. And when I am watching the HD-A2 is says: HD-DVD.

Of course you can't make is say: DD TrueHD ;)

What settings are you using to get Multi Channel PCM?
I have a HD-A20 mine says PCM fs: 48kHz and HDMIthrough?


For those of you who use the 705 with a Toshiba 2nd generation HD player here are some tips from the 805 thread on how to set up the HDMI:

"Toshiba HD-A2 and the 705/ 805, make sure you set HDMI MONITOR to ON, and HDMI AUDIO to OFF; on the A2, make sure you set Audio to BITSTREAM=PCM and HDMI=PCM (or, preferably, HDMI=AUTO if you're also planning on playing SD DVDs...this way it will pass the standard Dolby Digital and DTS bitstreams of SD DVDs while passing the high-res audio tracks via PCM on HD DVDs without having to always manually change it). These settings seem to be the most common oversights with 805 owners. Congratulations on your new purchase! If using HDMI for audio you do want to set the optical output to PCM. As you discovered this is the only way to get the A2 to ouput 96k LPCM. Bizzare - yes - but that's the way it is."

(Sorry for all the posts in a row but I am catching up on few days worth.)

After using the 705 for a few days it is great!

SOUND:
Finally ran Audessey and it improved the sound quite a bit. Although the dialog still seemed muted. On my old AVR I had cracked up the center channel cause I hate having to strain to hear the voices over the background. So when I watched Sahara HD-DVD on the 705 I had to keep increasing the volume during dialog (friends were over for the movie) Later I manually set the center at -1 dB and then it was good and clear. Audessey had set the center to -5 dB and the fronts to -2 dB.

REMOTE:
I love the joystick in the middle- very easy to navigate when doing set up. Won't really need it cause I programmed my Harmony 659 to run the whole theater including X10 controls for the lights. I only saw a backlight on the "receiver" button but haven't played around to see if I can get all the buttons backlit.

POPPING:
NONE. But there is what I call a mechanical CLICK inside the 705 when changing inputs or On/Off. It is rather loud, at least much louder than my old AVR. It is a little annoying. I assume it is normal.
There is no popping coming out of the speakers if that is the popping people are talking about. It is silent in the speakers when changing inputs or DVD menus.

HEAT: No hotter than my old AVR. They need to give off heat so they don't burn up.

HANDSHAKE:
I have one issue with analog component upconvert to HDMI from my Polaroid DVD recorder to my Sanyo Z3 720p projector. I tried 480i/480p to 480p and 480i/480p to 720p but the Z3 wouldn't accept either one. I will just have to use components direct to the Z3. My other two sources use HDMI to HDMI for audio and video through the 705 without a problem.

IMPRESSION:
WOW. Letters from Iwo Jima sounds awesome such as when the planes fly over and drop bombs, machine guns everywhere...
Sahara- dialog was low till I increased the center channel.
The features and price for this unit are great. Learning curve.. there is a lot you can do and a lot to figure out. We can figure it out together. :)

I also missed the CC sale by about an hour I think. JR's is the next best thing I think and they can be talked out of shipping :0)

keep us posted if they honored $494 shipped or not

Is the "705" too much for this type of in-wall speaker?
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=300-282
Speaker Specifications: *Power handling: 50 watts RMS/100 watts max *Impedance: 8 ohms

I do not understand how to choose speakers for receivers.
I bought 6 of these speakers for front,rear(side), and back surrounds; thinking that I was ok, but, I may have to settle for the "605" if the 705 will "blow" them out.
Thanks for helping out a total speaker to receiver relationship novice.

Is the "705" too much for this type of in-wall speaker?
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=300-282
Speaker Specifications: *Power handling: 50 watts RMS/100 watts max *Impedance: 8 ohms

I do not understand how to choose speakers for receivers.
I bought 6 of these speakers for front,rear(side), and back surrounds; thinking that I was ok, but, I may have to settle for the "605" if the 705 will "blow" them out.
Thanks for helping out a total speaker to receiver relationship novice.

Too much power is generally better than not enough power.

The 705 will be fine with those speakers. You will have plenty of amp headroom.

This is a very cool feature! So when I am watching DirecTv the display reads:
DVR HR20 which I put in there. And when I am watching the HD-A2 is says: HD-DVD.That's awesome! I just renamed my inputs; now have "PS3"; "Wii", XBox360", and "TiVo S3". Excellent. :)

Good Review Tim Sly, many thanks.

You said, "HANDSHAKE:
I have one issue with analog component upconvert to HDMI from my Polaroid DVD recorder to my Sanyo Z3 720p projector. I tried 480i/480p to 480p and 480i/480p to 720p but the Z3 wouldn't accept either one. I will just have to use components direct to the Z3. My other two sources use HDMI to HDMI for audio and video through the 705 without a problem."

What are your ins & outs. I believe you are coming in component but how are you going out? If component or HDMI did you do the correct assignments in setup? It seems that every time I do this I have to cycle through the assignments a few times to get them matched correctly, but thats me I suppose. Shouldn't be a hand shake issue with component in & out.

Since I'm somewhat new to this thread, I thought I'd pass on some info from the 605 thread that should also apply to the 705.

In the 605 "New Onkyo 605 Owner":

Post 592 & 594 has info on video resolutions for Analog & HDMI ins & outs of the AVR and how to access the "Hidden Video Menu". There are also some work-arounds on how to set it up to use video processing or not when you choose SD material or HD material.

Post 2437 and down has info on how to update the 605/705 firmware via CD. Not that we'll ever see it, but good to know.

Post 2490 has some undocumented Button Combinations that you may find useful, or not.

705 owners may also find it useful to peruse or keep an eye on the 605 thread as these AVR's are very similar in operation and I would guess that much of what will be discussed here has already been hammered on over there.

Good luck and remember that if you break it you own it.

Just bought my 705 on CC's website $674 ... i wish i got it on sunday for the low low low price some of your guys managed to get. However, I am still happy with this price.

I also bought a set of KEF KHT 3005 5.1 surround speaker package... later in the month ill buy 2 more sats and finish the 7.1 effect. I think this should be a nice 1,2 combination for a sweet bedroom surround setup..... I think my living room is getting jealous :rolleyes:

Going to pick up at 10am when they open. Wish me luck :D

I have just found this thread, and am another who has taken advantage of the CC price of $719 minus the $50 coupon on the 705. I picked up the unit from my local store but am leaving it the box for at least a couple of weeks, until I pick up my surround speakers purchased off Craigslist, but also in the hope that an even lower price may appear as the units reach retailers in greater numbers, since CC will match within 30 days.

However, this is my question. I was reading this morning about how all television must switch to digital in 2009. Is this significant to current receivers such as the 705, because my assumption is that the signal passing through my DirecTV HR-20 to my Samsung HD DLP TV is still analog. Thanks for any info or internet references.

Bob

I have just found this thread, and am another who has taken advantage of the CC price of $719 minus the $50 coupon on the 705. I picked up the unit from my local store but am leaving it the box for at least a couple of weeks, until I pick up my surround speakers purchased off Craigslist, but also in the hope that an even lower price may appear as the units reach retailers in greater numbers, since CC will match within 30 days.

However, this is my question. I was reading this morning about how all television must switch to digital in 2009. Is this significant to current receivers such as the 705, because my assumption is that the signal passing through my DirecTV HR-20 to my Samsung HD DLP TV is still analog. Thanks for any info or internet references.

Bob

Did you buy it before 8/12. If so CC should price match their advertised price on 8/12 of less than $550.

Edit; I could be wrong but I think the analog vs digital signal thing is already in place. Comcast Atlanta is 100% digital. I thought the 2009 thing had to do with SD vs HD? Maybe someone will square me away on this.

Your 705 should be fine no matter what signal you'll wind up dealing with.

lucky you live in a no sales tax state

I also live in No tax state but I bought mine for $549.00 on line last Sunday at CC.

Not sure when it was so cheap one day and the next back to $749.00

It should delivered be at my house on Wenesday.

Enjoy

I want to step up from my 603 to the 705 (mostly because I'm tired of fighting to EQ my SVS 20-39CS+ with a damn ART-351) and may snag one after work today, but I have a few questions:

1) Can you set front left and right at different distances? And does it allow for .5 increments or just whole feet? My right speaker is unavoidably 6 to 8 inches further away than the left, but the 603 only allows one setting for distance to mains.

2) Can the 705 matrix 5.1 from the analog multichannel inputs to 6.1 (like with DPL-IIx)? I'm running a Panny S97 for the occasional DVD-Audio disc.

3) Does analog multichannel get passed through equalization, crossover and delay? Wondering if I would turn off the delay times and crossover for DVD-Audio and let the receiver handle it, or just leave it as-is.

4) Does the Audyssey implementation on the 705 let you pick Flat for the EQ curve, or are you just stuck with Audyssey's rolloff of the highs? I read the user manual, but didn't see where you could choose like you can on other brands.

Any answers would be appreciated. Thanks!

I also live in No tax state but I bought mine for $549.00 on line last Sunday at CC.

Not sure when it was so cheap one day and the next back to $749.00

It should delivered be at my house on Wenesday.

Enjoy


I can't believe I missed that sale I was mad to myself because for everyday
I have been checking CC website I saw their 799.00 minus 80.00 plus another 50.00 that they have until saturday last week but I don't know why I did not check on Sunday morning and to make the matter worst I was awake since 7 am pst so I am sure if I open up my laptop I could have bought one already.

Stu--d me. :(

I want to step up from my 603 to the 705 (mostly because I'm tired of fighting to EQ my SVS 20-39CS+ with a damn ART-351) and may snag one after work today, but I have a few questions:

1) Can you set front left and right at different distances? And does it allow for .5 increments or just whole feet? My right speaker is unavoidably 6 to 8 inches further away than the left, but the 603 only allows one setting for distance to mains.

2) Can the 705 matrix 5.1 from the analog multichannel inputs to 6.1 (like with DPL-IIx)? I'm running a Panny S97 for the occasional DVD-Audio disc.

3) Does analog multichannel get passed through equalization, crossover and delay? Wondering if I would turn off the delay times and crossover for DVD-Audio and let the receiver handle it, or just leave it as-is.

4) Does the Audyssey implementation on the 705 let you pick Flat for the EQ curve, or are you just stuck with Audyssey's rolloff of the highs? I read the user manual, but didn't see where you could choose like you can on other brands.

Any answers would be appreciated. Thanks!

1. Yes. 1/2 ft increments. All 8 channels
2. Dunno, but I would assume not on analog MCH. Yes on HDMI MCH PCM.
3. There is limited processing on analog. Sub woofer sensitivity is it. You're better off planning to make speaker adjustments at the source if permitted. Both of my DVD players have speaker setup functions.
4. Not really. If you peruse the Audyssey website they downplay the flat curve so, since we can't control it, I would suspect its doing its own thing, not flat.

I can't believe I missed that sale I was mad to myself because for everyday
I have been checking CC website I saw their 799.00 minus 80.00 plus another 50.00 that they have until saturday last week but I don't know why I did not check on Sunday morning and to make the matter worst I was awake since 7 am pst so I am sure if I open up my laptop I could have bought one already.

Stu--d me. :(

I missed it a couple of weeks ago so like you I was looking pretty much everyday for a return of insanity. On Sunday, early am it showed up so I jumped on it. I tried to post it but as you may know, the forum was down until early afternoon, EST. Sorry my friend, I did try. I just spent about 4 hours between yesterday and today with CC on the additional 10% off coupon that I was trying to get them to apply post sale. I finally wore them down so my price is now in the under $490 range. Gloat - Gloat

In the 605 "New Onkyo 605 Owner":

Post 592 & 594 has info on video resolutions for Analog & HDMI ins & outs of the AVR and how to access the "Hidden Video Menu". There are also some work-arounds on how to set it up to use video processing or not when you choose SD material or HD material.

Post 2437 and down has info on how to update the 605/705 firmware via CD. Not that we'll ever see it, but good to know.

Post 2490 has some undocumented Button Combinations that you may find useful, or not.

705 owners may also find it useful to peruse or keep an eye on the 605 thread as these AVR's are very similar in operation and I would guess that much of what will be discussed here has already been hammered on over there.Has anyone checked to see if these features work the same on the 705? I tried the secret menu thing when I first got mine and couldn't get it to work; maybe I was doing something wrong. MrGribbles, have you gotten into the hidden video menu on the 705?

noob question...

will the 605 allow me to run two HDMI cables into it (from dvd and DISH) and then a single HDMI out to my tv?

thanks!

Proud new owner of a 705. I got the CC price of 719.99 with a $50 off coupon. I got the cheapo $3.99 shipping and rec'd the unit in TWO days. I was very satisfied with my first CC online purchase. But I digress...

My remote is defective. The "joystick/enter" button doesn't work. All of the other buttons are fine. I spoke with one customer service rep who made some ridiculously *stupid* recommendations. My favorite being to pack the unit back up (after I had just plugged in all of my components and speakers) and RETURN it to Circuit City. He "accidentally" disconnected me. Luckily when I called back I talked to a more competent rep. She told me to fax my receipt and other details into Onkyo for a replacement. I did this and have yet to hear back. No confirmation. No anything...

Do you guys have any experience with Onkyo's customer support? If so, how would you rate them - Good, bad, or somewhere in between?

I know I can hit "enter" on the front of the actual unit but I would much prefer to have a *working* remote. I have no immediate plans on purchasing a universal either.

Anyone here running a Tivo HD (or a Series 3) through their 705?

Has anyone checked to see if these features work the same on the 705? I tried the secret menu thing when I first got mine and couldn't get it to work; maybe I was doing something wrong. MrGribbles, have you gotten into the hidden video menu on the 705?

Sure. Remember, you have to use the buttons on the AVR, not the remote. Press and hold "AUX" and while you're holding AUX, press standby (Power on/off). Works every time. The menu will persist so you can go back to couch potato mode and make changes with the remote until you press set up to end the session. Also, the menu does not appear on the TV, only on the AVR display. Let us know how you make out.

noob question...

will the 605 allow me to run two HDMI cables into it (from dvd and DISH) and then a single HDMI out to my tv?

thanks!
Yes.

Dolfer, Onkyo CS has to be the worst group of Bozos I have ever had the experience to deal with. I don't know how a company with any kind of a reputation can field a group like this unless its absolutely intentional. They make the folks in "Office Space" seem like rocket scientists.

All that said, good luck.

Edit: One last thing. The package it up and return it is their standard answer. I know of people that have bought 140 lbs of HTIB gear only to have a small glitch and instead of replacing the component, they say pack it up and return the whole thing. I think that if you yell at them long enough they'll relent and let you return the component, but it ain't easy.

I just read the first 6 pages of this thread and skimmed the last two. Can anyone confirm 100% how the OSD does/does not work? I have an equipment closet that puts my gear 20ft behind me in a separate room. I've been living with a receiver that doesn't do OSD over component and I'm not going to do it any more. The receiver absolutely has to be able to tell me the volume and surround format (i.e. do I have THX on or is it DD vs. DTS) over the OSD using HDMI -> HDMI and Component -> Component. I'm not terribly worried about how the OSD works for transcoding say Component to HDMI as I already have both run to my projector but like I said, I'm not buying a receiver that doesn't tell my what my volume is on the OSD when I'm watching a BD or HD-DVD.

Dolfer, Onkyo CS has to be the worst group of Bozos I have ever had the experience to deal with. I don't know how a company with any kind of a reputation can field a group like this unless its absolutely intentional. They make the folks in "Office Space" seem like rocket scientists.

All that said, good luck.

Edit: One last thing. The package it up and return it is their standard answer. I know of people that have bought 140 lbs of HTIB gear only to have a small glitch and instead of replacing the component, they say pack it up and return the whole thing. I think that if you yell at them long enough they'll relent and let you return the component, but it ain't easy.

Great! :mad: I knew I was in trouble when you busted out that "Office Space" comparison!

I am not a master of "retail science" but I thought that companies (especially electronics/computer) try to do everything they can to PREVENT you from returning an item! Because as soon as you return it, you will *most likely* get a different brand or buy nothing at all. It seems quite idiotic to me. But I guess that jives with what you are saying about them! :D

I pulled the trigger about 30 minutes ago. Will pick up my 705 on the way home and swap my 603 out to see if I like it. Hopefully, the Audyssey equalization can do more with my sub's 45Hz peak than my ART-351 does (and maybe even out the sound from the one speaker unfortunately located next to an open doorway into the hall). Everything's banana plugged and marked, so it should be a quick swap.

I missed it a couple of weeks ago so like you I was looking pretty much everyday for a return of insanity. On Sunday, early am it showed up so I jumped on it. I tried to post it but as you may know, the forum was down until early afternoon, EST. Sorry my friend, I did try. I just spent about 4 hours between yesterday and today with CC on the additional 10% off coupon that I was trying to get them to apply post sale. I finally wore them down so my price is now in the under $490 range. Gloat - Gloat


Hopefully they will bring it down again on sunday, if not atleast it should be cheaper than it is now. :(

I have a question here, and it's probably kind of silly. I have a 5.1 speaker setup and do not plan on adding the additional two speakers. I have an older Onkyo reciever with no HDMI. I want to take advantage of lossless audio. If I upgrade to this 705, would I be able to take advantage of the latest formats or would it be silly without the complete 7.1 speaker setup?

I have a question here, and it's probably kind of silly. I have a 5.1 speaker setup and do not plan on adding the additional two speakers. I have an older Onkyo reciever with no HDMI. I want to take advantage of lossless audio. If I upgrade to this 705, would I be able to take advantage of the latest formats or would it be silly without the complete 7.1 speaker setup?
Yes you will be able to, most of the audio tracks on Blu-ray/HD DVD are 5.1

Sure. Remember, you have to use the buttons on the AVR, not the remote. Press and hold "AUX" and while you're holding AUX, press standby (Power on/off). Works every time. The menu will persist so you can go back to couch potato mode and make changes with the remote until you press set up to end the session. Also, the menu does not appear on the TV, only on the AVR display. Let us know how you make out.OK, thanks, I got it to work. Unfortunatly it didn't solve an issue that I have, which I had thought it might. The issue is that when I have the Wii set to output 480p thru component, for some reason the Onkyo sets the aspect ratio to 4:3, even though it's set to 16:9 coming out of the Wii. I have been "re-stretching" it by setting the display for 4:3 stuff to stretch and fill the screen. Using the secret menu I can get it to upscale to 720p; but it's still squished into a 4:3 box. And my display won't let me stretch a 720p souce. So I'm back to leaving output to "auto". I don't know if I'm doing something wrong with the setup; but I can't find a place to tell the Onkyo that all output should be 16:9 (other than the OSD setup). Oh well, minor inconvenience for me.

I just read the first 6 pages of this thread and skimmed the last two. Can anyone confirm 100% how the OSD does/does not work? I have an equipment closet that puts my gear 20ft behind me in a separate room. I've been living with a receiver that doesn't do OSD over component and I'm not going to do it any more. The receiver absolutely has to be able to tell me the volume and surround format (i.e. do I have THX on or is it DD vs. DTS) over the OSD using HDMI -> HDMI and Component -> Component. I'm not terribly worried about how the OSD works for transcoding say Component to HDMI as I already have both run to my projector but like I said, I'm not buying a receiver that doesn't tell my what my volume is on the OSD when I'm watching a BD or HD-DVD.

You won't be buying this one then. HDMI in & out = No Volume OSD. You will get set up but no operational items in overlay unless you're coming in analog & out HDMI (or analog).

Great! :mad: I knew I was in trouble when you busted out that "Office Space" comparison!

I am not a master of "retail science" but I thought that companies (especially electronics/computer) try to do everything they can to PREVENT you from returning an item! Because as soon as you return it, you will *most likely* get a different brand or buy nothing at all. It seems quite idiotic to me. But I guess that jives with what you are saying about them! :D

You're right on target. I feel that there's two reasons companies have a CS group. A) Help the customer, build relationships, etc. or B) keep these a**holes off my back. Office Space!! I should have likened them to Michael Scott in "The Office." ROFLMAO at my own joke.

You won't be buying this one then. HDMI in & out = No Volume OSD. You will get set up but no operational items in overlay unless you're coming in analog & out HDMI (or analog).
Thanks.

OK, thanks, I got it to work. Unfortunatly it didn't solve an issue that I have, which I had thought it might. The issue is that when I have the Wii set to output 480p thru component, for some reason the Onkyo sets the aspect ratio to 4:3, even though it's set to 16:9 coming out of the Wii. I have been "re-stretching" it by setting the display for 4:3 stuff to stretch and fill the screen. Using the secret menu I can get it to upscale to 720p; but it's still squished into a 4:3 box. And my display won't let me stretch a 720p souce. So I'm back to leaving output to "auto". I don't know if I'm doing something wrong with the setup; but I can't find a place to tell the Onkyo that all output should be 16:9 (other than the OSD setup). Oh well, minor inconvenience for me.

Even the folks w' the 875's are having a time with this issue. You may want to look over there and see if there's an answer.

Got mine today from circuitcity for $494.99......New in box...

how do you get this price? the tax at CC kills it for me though maybe I can go to Deleware an hour away for tax free but not time for that.

my CC didn't even have any but they can get from warehouse.

if i have 4 hdmi components and this receiver only has 3 hdmi inputs, can i just use my 2 in 1 out hdmi switch to basically add a 4th hdmi input to the receiver (connect the hdmi out on the switcher to one of the hdmi inputs on the receiver and then 2 components into the 2 inputs on the switch and then obviously out from receiver to tv) will this work to basically get 2 inputs out of one of the inputs on the receiver? this wont cause any problem will it? guess i wont know till i try it.

if it doens't work i guess i'll have to get the more expensive 875 with 4 hdmi inputs but then ppl say you mine as well get the 905 with reon processor (over Faroudja of the 705 and 875?) and the graphic menu display or whatever that it has.

i think i'll start with the 705 to replace my old panny receiver and try the hdmi switch to add one more hdmi input on the receiver.

I am wondering how it compares in general. I know there's a massive price difference between the 605 and 705 maybe due to the THX certification. I don't want to go nuts on a receiver but I'm interesting in some of the 705's features. Some things I've noticed:

- The 705 has 3 HDMI inputs and the 605 has 2. I will use 2 right away but eventually I can see myself using 4 so then I'm back to researching HDMI switches or directly connecting to the TV.
- The 705 has THX cert which I don't care about.
- The biggest mystery is that the 705 has powered Zone 2. The 605 does not.

Let explain why I care about how the 705 apparently runs its second zone. I want to use the second zone in the same room (iTunes + PS3 etc). Currently I'm using a Mackie mixer into my PC which is craptasically hacky but provides a super awesome multimedia experience. If someone jumps on iChat or I get another notification beep, it just mixes into my cinema experience. Purists might gag at this concept but I find it very suitible to the "convergence thing". Home theater amps don't venture into this "mixer" arena at all, I've looked forever. Home theater is about one input, one output. But in recent years there's been a bunch of multi-zone receivers out there that I could use in an unintended way.

What I'm planning to do to meet my "mix" need is put the 2nd zone in the same room as the 5.1. iTunes and other PC sounds will be stereo most of the time anyway and it beats having a studio type mixer thrown into a home theater space. I'm just going to put the 2nd zones speakers next to the L&R of the 5.1 speakers.

But back on topic, I'm wondering what the alternative is to the 705's powered 2nd zone? Can you buy the Onkyo 2 channel amp and power stereo speakers with the 605? How do people use HDMI pass throughs or pre-outs with an external amp? The 705 might be worth it just for the powered Zone 2 and the extra HDMI port and forget reading about how to use a straight-up amplifier.

the 605 can't matrix 7.1 chan surround thats why everyone got the Yamaha 661 instead for the same price range and was known as the 2 bang for buck kings with the yam edging out the onky 605 for that reason.

i think the 705 can matrix 7.1 so its not a problem anymore.

also why is the 705 up to $799 now on CC online and none of the ones in my area have it in store. I think there is a new $50 off coupon and you can get a 10% off with AAA. anyone know any other way to get this as cheap as possible from CC?

Didn't you get that super low price like me? You know the price match from that early super low CC pricing. I noticed CC up the price so that must have been a pricing error on their part.

I can't believe the rock bottom price I eventualy got on my 705 from J&R.

wil J&R still match the previous CC price? what was the lowest it was at CC? I'm prob just going to get it from CC anyway as its easier for returns etc. being a local store.

i'm sure i can find a way to get a decent price from CC even though it went up especially since my stores didn't have it in stock then though i guessi could have ordered online to get the low price from CC

but yeah what ws the lowest CC had it for. might be worth try to see if J& R has record of that andmatching other ppl so they will maybe still do it and wont know that CC raised t heir price or wont care.

"OK, thanks, I got it to work. Unfortunatly it didn't solve an issue that I have, which I had thought it might. The issue is that when I have the Wii set to output 480p thru component, for some reason the Onkyo sets the aspect ratio to 4:3, even though it's set to 16:9 coming out of the Wii. I have been "re-stretching" it by setting the display for 4:3 stuff to stretch and fill the screen. Using the secret menu I can get it to upscale to 720p; but it's still squished into a 4:3 box. And my display won't let me stretch a 720p souce. So I'm back to leaving output to "auto". I don't know if I'm doing something wrong with the setup; but I can't find a place to tell the Onkyo that all output should be 16:9 (other than the OSD setup). Oh well, minor inconvenience for me."


Even the folks w' the 875's are having a time with this issue. You may want to look over there and see if there's an answer.


wait a min. I have a Samsung HLT dlp tv and the non HD stuff shows up in 4:3 when using the "Just Scan" picture mode or 16:9. for some commercials that are t hen done widescreen but still sd its then pillar boxed meaning black bar on all 4 sides. it sucks. you can use the wide zoom mode to stretch the picture but then turn it off when going to an sd chan or coming off sd commercial and back to hd program.

I'm looking for a receiver that will upconvert via the hdmi sd channels to hd and make the picture full screen. so say you have your cable box hdmi to receiver and then receiver to tv, i know the 705 upconverts but if the picture is still 4:3 that is almost useless.

so the 805 does this too? do any of the onkyo recievers upconvert the sd chans and make the 4:3 picture 16:9? if not then what brand receiver will do this when upconverting sd chans

i want to upconvert sd chans to 1080p and have it make a 16:9 picture for everything when i have the tv set on "just scan" mode or 16:9. i dont ever want to see a 4:3 picture, especially since there is some bowing on 4:3 material with many of these samsung hlt models.

wil J&R still match the previous CC price? what was the lowest it was at CC? I'm prob just going to get it from CC anyway as its easier for returns etc. being a local store.

i'm sure i can find a way to get a decent price from CC even though it went up especially since my stores didn't have it in stock then though i guessi could have ordered online to get the low price from CC

but yeah what ws the lowest CC had it for. might be worth try to see if J& R has record of that andmatching other ppl so they will maybe still do it and wont know that CC raised t heir price or wont care.

artslinger! would you please pm me your contact and deal from JR?

Got mine today from circuitcity for $494.99......New in box...

i think this is the lowest anyone got it for. how did you get it at that price?

Early on last week when I started research between 705 vs 805.. I remember a lot of 805 users saying one of the reasons to get the 805 is the 805 has a back-lit remote control and 705 did not.

When i bought my 705 yesterday I was shocked to see the remote on the 705 is back-lit too.

Is everyones 705 remote back-lit? Or, did I get lucky and somehow get the 805's remote?

i want to upconvert sd chans to 1080p and have it make a 16:9 picture for everything when i have the tv set on "just scan" mode or 16:9. i dont ever want to see a 4:3 picture, especially since there is some bowing on 4:3 material with many of these samsung hlt models.

I know that the 905 will upconvert all SD into full 1080p the 605, 705 and 805 only upconvert SD to a maximum of 720p. This 16:9 vs 4:3 issue I am not sure if the 905 is afflicted by that or not.

905 is what you should be looking at though if you want 1080p upconvert through hdmi. The 905 is around 2 grand ballpark. Its reason I didn't bother to go that route myself. Quite a price jump just to get that 1080p upconvert, the rest of the features I didn't need and for triple the price tag it was not worth it to me. However, it would be a really cool feature to have!

Mine is also back-lit

I am sure this has been mentioned sorry for making people repeat.

What are the exact steps to get to the hidden menu on the 705?

I know that the 905 will upconvert all SD into full 1080p the 605, 705 and 805 only upconvert SD to a maximum of 720p. This 16:9 vs 4:3 issue I am not sure if the 905 is afflicted by that or not.

905 is what you should be looking at though if you want 1080p upconvert through hdmi. The 905 is around 2 grand ballpark. Its reason I didn't bother to go that route myself. Quite a price jump just to get that 1080p upconvert, the rest of the features I didn't need and for triple the price tag it was not worth it to me. However, it would be a really cool feature to have!

thanks for the info and yeah I'll stick with the 705. you could get a new tv for the price of the 905.

Hidden Menu.

Remember, you have to use the buttons on the AVR, not the remote. Press and hold "AUX" and while you're holding AUX, press standby (Power on/off).

i think this is the lowest anyone got it for. how did you get it at that price?

Twice in the last few weeks CC put the 705 up for $549 (7/31 & 8/12). The price was only there for 4-5 hours or so and then they raised it back up to $769, but with a -$50 coupon. People who are registered with them (members of the club?) received an email with 10% off a single purchase over $199. The math = $494. I had previously bought a 605 from JanR for $399 and thought I did well.

I don't know if the steal price with CC is a mistake or what but I hope for those with patience, it happens again. I think it was a mistake because it served no useful marketing purpose as it was not advertised or promoted.

Edit: For those that aren't already signed up, I would go to the CC website and join up (I think you need to establish an account), or at least for the Email promo stuff. This way you'll get special emails on deals and discounts.

Heat. Did some cursory Temperature measurements with an IR meter on the 705 last night.

The unit had been on for 4 or so hours. The volume level was circa -22 dB. The ambient temperature was 79 F (Atlanta's in a heat wave and the aircon is having a time of it).

The sides and back are in the mid 90's F range. The top of the case runs from 110 F to 119F except in the right rear quadrant where I got readings in the mid 130's F. For reference, I could keep my hand on it for up to 10 seconds, but I really didn't like it.

Am I concerned? Not in the least. I still consider 135 F to be cool, maybe warm if I was debating the issue.

I missed it a couple of weeks ago so like you I was looking pretty much everyday for a return of insanity. On Sunday, early am it showed up so I jumped on it. I tried to post it but as you may know, the forum was down until early afternoon, EST. Sorry my friend, I did try. I just spent about 4 hours between yesterday and today with CC on the additional 10% off coupon that I was trying to get them to apply post sale. I finally wore them down so my price is now in the under $490 range. Gloat - Gloat

I happened to check CC early Sunday, on a lark. Was shocked at the price and then the additional -10%, so out the door with tax for under $530.00. Tried to post a notice to the forum as well, but couldn't. I had been waiting on the 805, but at that price I can live with the incidental performance differences.

Heat. Did some cursory Temperature measurements with an IR meter on the 705 last night.

The unit had been on for 4 or so hours. The volume level was circa -22 dB. The ambient temperature was 79 F (Atlanta's in a heat wave and the aircon is having a time of it).

The sides and back are in the mid 90's F range. The top of the case runs from 110 F to 119F except in the right rear quadrant where I got readings in the mid 130's F. For reference, I could keep my hand on it for up to 10 seconds, but I really didn't like it.

Am I concerned? Not in the least. I still consider 135 F to be cool, maybe warm if I was debating the issue.

I think mine is in the same temp range, yes the right rear is where the heat is the most intense. I can keep my hand on the 705 without to much pain... LOL. Remeber keep at least 8-10 inches clearance from the top and if you use a enclosed cabinet keep the front doors open at least partially.

I'm really not to worried about it, I have a 4 year Onkyo warranty. I purchased the 2 year extended warranty from ShopOnkyo, yeh I know warranties are a rip, but this is a complex AVR that runs hot so I wanted that extra coverage.

IMPRESSION:
WOW. Letters from Iwo Jima sounds awesome such as when the planes fly over and drop bombs, machine guns everywhere...
Sahara- dialog was low till I increased the center channel.
The features and price for this unit are great. Learning curve.. there is a lot you can do and a lot to figure out. We can figure it out together. :)


As I don't have Sahara yet. I really like LFIJ. You don't hear mouch about it on these forums. The PQ is out standing but it's not in the top tier?

Do you personally think the Faroudja processor ( spelling ) processor in this this is OFF THE HOOK! I truly fell I made the right purchase. I ain't made at all. :D

Got my 705 last night, hooked it all up, zeroed my ART-351 EQ for my SVS 20-39CS+, ran 6 positions on the Audyssey setup, and then popped in some stuff I'm used to hearing. A few observations:

1) Speaker distances, for some odd reason, all came out exactly 1 foot under physical distance. However, the differences in distance between speakers were correct and between-speaker imaging was spot on. Finally, my right main gets that half-foot bump it needs to mesh with my center channel!

2) It detected my Polk RTi28s and CSi40 as full range, which I quickly changed to 80Hz.

3) After running the Audyssey calibration, I double checked channel levels with a SPL meter. Every channel was dead on correct, and I verified same with Avia. My 603 was never able to get this right.

4) Though I have tweaked extensively with my SVS, I have NEVER gotten the tight bass sound from it that the 705 is giving me, especially with music. I ran through my usual list of Nickel Creek, Glen Phillips, Beck, Flaming Lips, etc. and suddenly bass guitar sounds like in-the-freakin'-room bass guitar. I was most impressed with the presence that piano now has, which was never there before on my 603. Also, the harshness of stringed instruments (such as those on Chris Thile's cover of White Stripes' Dead Leaves And The Dirty Ground) is absolutely gone with the 705. I do wish the 705 had the option of a flat curve like other brands' Audyssey implementation, but I do enjoy the sound.

5) Popped in The Incredibles, I Robot, Star Wars: Attack of the Clones, etc. and was impressed as hell. The rolloff of highs with Audyssey will take a little getting used to because I'm accustomed to a brighter sound from my Polks, but dialogue was definitely more intelligible and natural sounding. The real improvement, however, was in bass response. There's a newfound PUNCH, for lack of a better word, that wasn't there before, and I'm not hearing the awful 45Hz peak or 63Hz null that I had before. I'll do frequency charts this weekend to see what kind of response I ended up with on the sub, but so far I'm very happy with the sound. If the Audyssey has truly tamed my room issues with the subwoofer, I may just take the ART-351 out of the loop.

6) Sadly, I'm running my DVD-Audio via analogue cables, so no Audyssey processing is done. The result is, quite frankly, AWFUL. I may switch out for an HDMI cable just to run audio from my Panny S97. Fortunately, I don't do a lot of DVD-A listening, so this is a minor complaint.

7) I cranked up the Bioshock demo on my Xbox 360. Audio placement in surround is outstanding. Despite the rolloff of the highs that the Audyssey seems to do, placement of 3-dimensional sound from games is very precise. I jumped on some Rainbow Six: Vegas and noticed that I could actually hear someone climbing a ladder behind me from inside a building, so I was able to turn around and kill them. I'm still playing with which method of 6.1 matrixing for 5.1 sources I like best, but DPL-IIx seems to be working well with my Xbox 360 so far.

Overall, I'm very satisfied with the upgrade. It is probably the best my home theater has ever sounded. Big thumbs up from me on the 705.

However, this is my question. I was reading this morning about how all television must switch to digital in 2009. Is this significant to current receivers such as the 705, because my assumption is that the signal passing through my DirecTV HR-20 to my Samsung HD DLP TV is still analog. Thanks for any info or internet references.

Bob

Bob, nothing to worry about. You already have digital TV coming into your home from DirecTv, it is only analog after it comes out of your DirecTv receiver and if you are using HDMI then it is still digital. Those who still use rabbit ears for over the air TV will need a digital converter box by 2009 because the analog signal will be replaced with digital signals. And that doesn't mean everything will be HD, many will still be SD digital stations.

IMPRESSION:
As I don't have Sahara yet. I really like LFIJ. You don't hear mouch about it on these forums. The PQ is out standing but it's not in the top tier?

Do you personally think the Faroudja processor ( spelling ) processor in this this is OFF THE HOOK! I truly fell I made the right purchase. I ain't made at all. :D

I agree Letters From Iwo Jima looks and sounds great. And the sound from the 705 blows me away! I ordered Flags of Our Fathers and can't wait to experience that.

As far as the Faroudja processing, I haven't really watched many SD dvds through the 705 yet. Anyone else comment on this? I briefly checked out Gladiator SD dvd but it was through the HD-A2 over HDMI and it looked quite good. I assume this player upconverts to 1080i??


Jeremy,
Nice review of the 705!

Twice in the last few weeks CC put the 705 up for $549 (7/31 & 8/12). The price was only there for 4-5 hours or so and then they raised it back up to $769, but with a -$50 coupon. People who are registered with them (members of the club?) received an email with 10% off a single purchase over $199. The math = $494. I had previously bought a 605 from JanR for $399 and thought I did well.

I don't know if the steal price with CC is a mistake or what but I hope for those with patience, it happens again. I think it was a mistake because it served no useful marketing purpose as it was not advertised or promoted.

Edit: For those that aren't already signed up, I would go to the CC website and join up (I think you need to establish an account), or at least for the Email promo stuff. This way you'll get special emails on deals and discounts.

great i went to buy the 705 from CC online on 8/13 so just missed it. its too high but i need to get it for a calibration. i may just get it high priced from cc and then wait for it to drop again.i have a better chance for return/exchange or price adjust then i do with a merchant that ships it.