Do any of you guys rip your hi rez/ dvd audio or sacd to your computer?? If so what software are you using?

Thanks
James

I do have ripped some of my hybrid SACD, but that is not exactly what you meant, I think ;-)

No, Everything can be done but in the end you will end up spending more on expensive proffesional software and hardware then to have extended collection of original Surround Music titles. And you still not going to have the original quality. Why bother?

It's possible to rip DVD-Audio without any special equipment, but the software to do so was removed pretty quickly after it was released (given the dubious legality of it). I'm not certain, but I believe the result is pretty close to original quality.

You can rip both now. One of the software programs that does dvd has added support for dvd-audio. This still won't remove the watermark if there is one, so playback is problematic. I own a lot of discs, and it disappoints me that I can't back it up. If my disc becomes scratched I won't replace it, not at the prices these are going for now.

DVDAExplorer_a6

DVDAExplorer_a7

dvdaripper_099c

dvdaripper_099f

ppcmripper_004

ppcmripper_007

SurCode MLP




You can also search for "DVD-A RIPPING_MLP EXTRACTIONS TOOLS"




Please do this only for educational/archiving purposes only. :)

DVDAExplorer_a6

DVDAExplorer_a7

dvdaripper_099c

dvdaripper_099f

ppcmripper_004

ppcmripper_007

SurCode MLP




You can also search for "DVD-A RIPPING_MLP EXTRACTIONS TOOLS"




Please do this only for educational/archiving purposes only. :)


Yap, only don't forget that in the end to make actual disc you still need SurCode MLP that cost along about $3000. And you not going to find a crack of it.

Cool are there any tool that could convert the hi rez stuff to flac? thanks for the pointers. I'll check them out.

James

Yap, only don't forget that in the end to make actual disc you still need SurCode MLP that cost along about $3000. And you not going to find a crack of it.
you sure of that ;)

you sure of that ;)

I will be glad if you Prove me wrong :)

Cool are there any tool that could convert the hi rez stuff to flac? thanks for the pointers. I'll check them out.

James

When I did it, at least, the end results were WAV files, which I then converted to FLAC.

Cool are there any tool that could convert the hi rez stuff to flac? thanks for the pointers. I'll check them out.

James

After reading this thread (whoever brought up DVDFab, you have my eternal gratitude!) I tried doing this myself. The process was long and somewhat painful, but I managed in the end.

You should probably search some torrent search engine for "DVD A Ripping Guide" and "MLP extraction tools". That's all I can tell you, I'm not giving out links.

Basically, what you do is rip the DVDA portion of the disc with DVDFab, then extract individual tracks with DVDAExplorer (you can only do one track at a time, AFAICT). After that, you'll need to use SurCode MLP and use a trick explained in the aforementioned guide (You'll need to make some dummy wav-files. I used Goldwave (http://www.goldwave.com/) to create six 1-sec long mono 96000Hz 24-bit PCM files (I had to use the "obsolete" 24 bit profile for SurCode to accept them, for some reason)) Eventually, you'll get an output of three stereo wave files (front channels, rear channels and LFE+C channels).

The next part is not described in the guide, so I kind of had to find a way to do it myself. If someone's got a better technique, please let us know.

1. (optional? maybe you can just take the 3 stereo waves immediately to wavewizard (see point 2). I haven't tried it myself yet.) Convert 3 stereo waves to 6 mono waves
I, personally, used Goldwave (http://www.goldwave.com/) to split the three stereo files into 6 mono files. Select the left channel (I think it's in Edit > Channels > Left, I don't remember exactly) and go to File > Save Selection As... There, select mono 24 bit PCM signed (I chose NOT to use the obsolete profile, this time), give it a name (don't forget to mention the channel you're working on -FL, FR, C, LFE, SL or SR- or you'll be hopelessly lost in no time) and hit OK. Repeat for the right channel and for the two other stereo files.

2. Merge the files into one 6ch wave
Then, I used Wavewizard (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95265) to merge the files into one 6ch wave file. Don't forget to tick "stream manipulation > Merge files" in the preferences and to sort the files in this order: FL FR C LFE SL SR (or, if it works with 3 stereo files, maybe, FLFR CLFE SLSR). Hit convert, and you'll get one 6ch wave file.

3. Convert to FLAC
Then I loaded up my favorite music player/converter, foobar2000 (http://www.foobar2000.org/), and created a new conversion profile, because the regular FLAC profile doesn't seem to be working (if anyone knows why, please do tell me). This profile only needs to be created once, you can use it again with a few simple clicks in the future.
So that's File > Preferences > Converter, Add new. Select "custom" in the drop down menu. There you select flac.exe (which can be found on the flac site (http://flac.sourceforge.net/), if you don't already have it) in encoder, extension is flac, parameters "-s -8 - -o %d --channel-map=none" (without the quotes. You can replace the 8 with any level you want to use), select 24 BPS and lossless, and fill in the name. Hit OK.
Then open the 6ch wave file you made earlier, right-click, select convert to..., select your brand new custom profile and go.

After a few seconds you'll have a fancy 6ch hi-res FLAC file, playable anywhere, anytime!
4. Rinse and repeat for all tracks on your album. *sigh*
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This was just my first attempt, people with more experience may have better techniques. Do share.

I ended up with a 175MB big FLAC file (roughly the same size as the original MLP file). Sure, it sounds good, but I don't think it's worth the trouble after all. You have to go through this whole tiresome process for every single song, and you end up with files that are too big for comfortable storage purposes anyway (I only have a small 120GB HDD, if you have space to spare, this may not be a problem for you).

I previously converted DTS tracks into 5.1 AAC files (using the Nero encoder and foobar) and the same file still sounds great, but it only takes up 26MB. The process of creating those is also much, much easier. I don't think I'm going to bother, in the future.

The only way it'd be worth it is if someone somewhere managed to write an MLP plugin for foobar (or any other media player) so we could play the original MLP files as they come out of DVDAExplorer. That way we wouldn't have to go through the whole separating/merging/converting process. I suppose there's a reason why this hasn't been done yet?

I know what i'll be messing around with this weekend. :rolleyes:

thanks

The only way it'd be worth it is if someone somewhere managed to write an MLP plugin for foobar (or any other media player) so we could play the original MLP files as they come out of DVDAExplorer. That way we wouldn't have to go through the whole separating/merging/converting process. I suppose there's a reason why this hasn't been done yet?

The player that comes with the Creative Audigy 2ZS plays MLP........
.....except for the Surround Left channel...... :)

BTW, you can get the Cirlinca program for about $45 to write DVDA-but it will not write MLP, only wav files. Still, I started with this before I got DiscWelder and Surcode MLP.

The player that comes with the Creative Audigy 2ZS plays MLP........
.....except for the Surround Left channel...... :)
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Whoa, you mean that creative player can play .mlp files directly from a hard drive? That would be cool.

What's that about the surround left channel? Another bug by Creative? :)

Whoa, you mean that creative player can play .mlp files directly from a hard drive? That would be cool.

What's that about the surround left channel? Another bug by Creative? :)

LOL. Probably intentional. At least, mine has never played the SL from an MLP file.
It will play back a DVDA, or DTS, or DVD with a surround track just fine.

Yap, only don't forget that in the end to make actual disc you still need SurCode MLP that cost along about $3000. And you not going to find a crack of it.

Was that a challenge? :p