View Full Version : 2007 PGA Championship on CBS & TNT in HDTV!


Ken H
08-11-07, 02:00 PM
89th PGA Championship
Southern Hills Country Club
Tulsa, OK
August 11 & 12
TNT coverage 11am - 2pm
CBS coverage 2pm - 7pm ET

For the first time, all coverage of the PGA will be fully HD.

From Onesport

Tiger Woods tied a major championship record by shooting a spectacular 63 in charging to a two-stroke lead in the second round of the US PGA Championship on Friday.

Woods came agonisingly close to setting the all-time low round in a major as his putt for birdie at the 18th hole spun out of the hole leaving him to tap-in for par.

The remarkable round lifted the world number one to six-under-par 134, two strokes better than fellow American Scott Verplank, who shot a bogey-free round of 66.

Australian Geoff Ogilvy (68) and Canadian Stephen Ames (69) were tied at 137.

clevername
08-11-07, 02:08 PM
is it just my local station or is everyone without HD as CBS starts their coverage today?

Woodrow
08-11-07, 02:17 PM
No HD in Tulsa on CBS(KOTV) via Cox cable.

Ken H
08-11-07, 02:34 PM
HD right on time at 2pm ET in Detroit.

Woodrow
08-11-07, 02:37 PM
Thanks for the info.

clevername
08-11-07, 02:38 PM
we switched on over to HD around 10 minutes ago here in Birmingham.

Woodrow
08-11-07, 03:03 PM
HD in Tulsa via Cox and OTA. It was a user stupidity issue.

Looks really good to me.

RemyM
08-11-07, 06:02 PM
It's the typical fantastic CBS HD golf coverage.

HDTV888
08-11-07, 08:32 PM
It's the typical fantastic CBS HD golf coverage.
Yes, and no SD cameras to spoil everything.
Some day, other networks may do that too.

Marcus Carr
08-12-07, 12:26 AM
Golf/Versus has an an exclusive all-HD tournament this week: US Women's Amateur.

jefbal99
08-12-07, 01:16 PM
Coverage on both TNT and CBS has been stellar since Thursday. Same top notch coverage that the Master's had, but without the occasional glitches.

Ken H
08-12-07, 01:30 PM
Tiger Woods vs. Stephen Ames: PGA Championship's final round feels like a lopsided title fight

Tim McDonald,
National Golf Editor,
Golf Publisher Syndications

TULSA, Okla. - The final pairing of the year's final major, the 2007 PGA Championship here at super-heated Southern Hills Country Club, might have had the trappings of a premier heavyweight bout - if one of the fighters wasn't such an underdog.

Introducing the champ, Tiger Woods, and the longshot challenger, Stephen Ames.

Woods, cool, confident and on cruise-control, fashioned a 69 Saturday and widened his lead to three strokes.

Ames won the dubious honor of being paired with Woods by also shooting a 69 Saturday, and trails by three strokes.

In fact, the five players at the top of the leaderboard all shot 69: Woody Austin at 3-under starts Sunday with sole possession of third place, followed by John Senden at 2-under and Ernie Els at 1-under. They are the only players in the field under par.

Ames' Accenture Match Play comments revisited
How do you pump up Tiger Woods, with 12 major golf tournaments under his belt, against Stephen Ames, with none?

You ask both combatants about comments Ames made before the 2006 Accenture Match Play Championship, in which he said "anything can happen, especially where (Woods) is hitting it."

Woods then humiliated Ames in the event, 10 and 8.

Ames, born in Trinidad, forsook his normally laid-back Caribbean attitude and became combative when asked about it after his round.

"Are we here at the PGA or the Match Play?" he almost yelled, waving his arms about. "Which one are we talking about?"

Ames has said repeatedly his comments were taken out of context. "I don't know if I want to go there because you might take it out of context again," he said.

Whether his comments were or weren't taken out of context, Woods didn't buy it then and he's not buying it now.

"I don't know about the whole 'out of context thing,'" he said calmly. "I read the quote. I went out there and played pretty good. Ten and 8 - it is what it is."

Woods, of course, has a well-earned reputation of playing well when he has a point to make, or when he feels someone has questioned his ability.

He also has a reputation for intimidating his Sunday playing partners, especially so when a major golf tournament is on the line. Woods will essentially gauge the success of his 2007 season on what happens Sunday.

He did win four tournaments this year. But, without a major, Woods admits he will be disappointed. He's been shut out of a major victory only three times in his career, and he's won two majors each of the last four years.

One more thing Ames has going against him: Woods has never lost a major in which he led going into the final round. As reporters struggled to get Woods to come up with a definitive reason, Woods put it simply.

"Maybe because I've won 12 majors? Woods said. "Maybe?

The Woods-Ames matchup provided some much needed drama at the tournament, ever since Woods grabbed the lead Friday and appears reluctant to let it go.

Wearing a lime-green shirt that almost matched the color of the fairways, Woods continued his surgical precision, hitting irons and fairway woods off the tee, playing the percentages, putting together great iron shots and timely putting. In essence, he played the course the way architect Perry Maxwell drew it up.

"My goal was to shoot under par and increase my lead," Woods said. "And I did that."

Ames wasn't exactly a slouch. He's been the most consistent player in the field, and now has three rounds in the 60s.

The course and conditions - temperatures reached 101 degrees and the heat index was 110 - continued to take their toll on the field, sending players north of par. The numbers of players under par has steadily dwindles as the tournament has progressed.

With pins tucked in precarious conditions and the greens starting to deteriorate, par is becoming a good score.

"It was definitely set up tough today, with the pins being so close to the edges," Ames said.

Woods and Ames tee off Sunday at 2 p.m.

Ken H
08-12-07, 06:03 PM
Simply great HD broadcast, and now it's getting tight, as Tiger has a 1 shot lead with 4 holes to go.

igreg
08-12-07, 06:09 PM
Seems like a tremendous amount of commercials in this broadcast compared to the other majors.

RemyM
08-12-07, 07:18 PM
Well done Tiger and CBS. To bad we only get CBS for two more weeks before it goes back to NBC for the final 2 FedEx Cup Tournaments and the Tour Championship.

The good news is it looks like the Golf Channel will be in full CBS like HD for all of the fall season.

gwsat
08-12-07, 09:07 PM
CBS’s coverage of golf is in a class by itself and the PQ of its coverage of the PGA was terrific. It was also very satisfying to see Tiger win another major, especially when compared to the one won by a fat, chain-smoking, no-name Argentinean.

dssturbo1
08-13-07, 06:07 AM
who john daly?? LOL

oh yeah he is from arkansas

dssturbo1
08-13-07, 06:11 AM
tiger wins and he still gets in a gawd danggit as usual. seems the tour would work with him on his language or the networks would have a delay, my nephew turned and said ohh he is cussing on tv......

John Mason
08-13-07, 06:33 AM
Images from CBS had less video noise that TNT here. Might have been the WCBS-DT fiber link to my NYC TWC head end compared to the routing path for TNT. The background noise for TNT wasn't dramatic, just noticeable compared to CBS. And CBS images seemed slightly crisper, which could have just looked that way from the reduced video noise. Maybe different delivered bit rates? (Using a 8300HD converter to a 64" 9"-gun RPTV, viewed a 8'.) -- John

Quinton
08-13-07, 10:58 AM
CBS=HD class.

dg28
08-13-07, 12:06 PM
CBS=HD class.

Exactly.

rantanamo
08-13-07, 12:35 PM
tiger wins and he still gets in a gawd danggit as usual. seems the tour would work with him on his language or the networks would have a delay, my nephew turned and said ohh he is cussing on tv......

I take it you missed the Cup race.

hotsauce
08-13-07, 12:54 PM
tiger wins and he still gets in a gawd danggit as usual. seems the tour would work with him on his language or the networks would have a delay, my nephew turned and said ohh he is cussing on tv......

Did you edit his comments or are you really calling for someone to censor "gawd danggit?" With all the stuff I hear and see on TV on a daily basis this is a joke right?

gwsat
08-13-07, 01:25 PM
I didn’t take offense at Tiger's language on the golf course, or any other aspect of his behavior, either, for that matter. It’s clear that there are Tiger haters who will find fault with Tiger, even if they have to make up a reason. That is their right but the rest of us should consider the source.

Tiger can play some golf and is remarkably charismatic. He is the best thing to happen to the PGA since Jack Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer were still bumping heads. Fortunately, most of the other pros seem to recognize that Tiger’s presence on the tour is making a BUNCH of extra money for all of them. Despite his programmed persona, his Gulfstream, and his trophy wife, I love to see him play and I root for him. My brother, who is also an old time golfer and golf fan, feels the same way.

hiltsy855
08-13-07, 01:26 PM
I take it you missed the Cup race.

I wouldn't think Harvick saying he wanted to "...kick his ass..." would be too traumatic for the young folks. ;)

gwsat
08-13-07, 04:21 PM
Staying on the subject of Tiger, it’s no wonder that the other pros appreciate what he has done for their money making potential. CBS’s ratings for the final round of this year’s PGA were the fifth-highest since 1986. As you might expect, Tiger was the winner of three of the top four (2000, 1999, 2006) and lost the other (2002) by one stroke:

http://mediabiz.blogs.cnnmoney.com/2007/08/13/tiger-woods-is-a-ratings-champ-too/

This spells “Money!” for everybody involved, and a lot of it.

archiguy
08-13-07, 04:39 PM
I didn’t take offense at Tiger's language on the golf course, or any other aspect of his behavior, either, for that matter. It’s clear that there are Tiger haters who will find fault with Tiger, even if they have to make up a reason. That is their right but the rest of us should consider the source.

Oh, you don't really have to make up a reason. He has his faults, the primary ones being a too-thin skin and lack of personal humility. He carries a grudge for years against those competitors and commentators who have pointed out earlier swing faults or less than stellar play. Even when somebody says something along the lines of "he can be beaten", he seems to take it as a personal assault. Too many members of the media are so terrified of being put on his "sh!t list" and thus cut off from interviews, that they play along and stumble over themselves to see who can make the most fawning comments. They wouldn't dare criticize him, and they don't.

But he already is the best player of all time, Jack and his remaining Majors notwithstanding. Michael Jordan had a similar personality, and similar ways of keeping the media in line. I'd say that maybe if you're the very best who ever lived, then that's the natural way your personality would evolve. But then, Nicklaus wasn't that way at all. Pure class from the get-go, and a natural evolution from the game's premier player into the game's premier spokesman. I'm not sure Tiger will ever achieve that to go with all of his records; he still has some growing up to do, IMO.

gwsat
08-13-07, 05:24 PM
Oh, you don't really have to make up a reason [for why there are Tiger haters]. He has his faults, the primary ones being a too-thin skin and lack of personal humility. He carries a grudge for years against those competitors and commentators who have pointed out earlier swing faults or less than stellar play. Even when somebody says something along the lines of "he can be beaten", he seems to take it as a personal assault. Too many members of the media are so terrified of being put on his "sh!t list" and thus cut off from interviews, that they play along and stumble over themselves to see who can make the most fawning comments. They wouldn't dare criticize him, and they don't.

But he already is the best player of all time, Jack and his remaining Majors notwithstanding. Michael Jordan had a similar personality, and similar ways of keeping the media in line. I'd say that maybe if you're the very best who ever lived, then that's the natural way your personality would evolve. But then, Nicklaus wasn't that way at all. Pure class from the get-go, and a natural evolution from the game's premier player into the game's premier spokesman. I'm not sure Tiger will ever achieve that to go with all of his records; he still has some growing up to do, IMO.
Tiger has his faults. For example, his ability to horde his grudges like precious jewels and use them against his ostensibly offending opponents on the golf course tickles me to death. The fellow is nothing if not calculating. One of the golf commentators over the weekend was asked how much of Tiger’s conduct on the golf course he thought was designed to psyche out his opponents, said, “All of it.” Indeed. It would be interesting to learn what Rory Sabatini and Stephen Ames really think about all of that.

I disagree, though, that Tiger’s actions at this stage of his career are much different from Jack Nicklaus’s. When Nicklaus burst on the scene he was a fat but immensely talented kid who had not yet learned to hide his arrogance. But, as Tiger has done, he craftily marketed himself as Golf’s (sort of) humble spokesman. I think that Tiger is developing in the same way.

It’s obvious that players like Nicklaus and Woods have to learn to at least partially conceal their arrogance because it’s there in abundance, no matter how well they hide it. Without arrogance, as well as cold calculation and a mean streak, neither of these guys could have done what they did.

oldcband
08-13-07, 05:42 PM
It would be interesting to learn what Rory Sabatini and Stephen Ames really think about all of that.

It’s obvious that players like Nicklaus and Woods have to learn to at least partially conceal their arrogance because it’s there in abundance, no matter how well they hide it. Without arrogance, as well as cold calculation and a mean streak, neither of these guys could have done what they did.
Have you listened to players like Steve Elkington talk about Tiger? Says that Tiger is as normal as anybody he's ever met. He reads comic books in the locker room and tells jokes with others. Butch Harmon tells a story about Tiger not wanting to spend more than a few dollars for lunch with him one day when they were practising because he wasn't raised to spend money foolishly.

He's never stuck his foot in his mouth like others, (Vijay on Wie) and handles himself very professional. He has a strong competitive personality that wants to bury you and thats what he did with Rory and Steve. He used his clubs to do this not his mouth. Tell me whats wrong with Tiger? I can't find much. ;)

gwsat
08-13-07, 08:00 PM
Have you listened to players like Steve Elkington talk about Tiger? Says that Tiger is as normal as anybody he's ever met. He reads comic books in the locker room and tells jokes with others. Butch Harmon tells a story about Tiger not wanting to spend more than a few dollars for lunch with him one day when they were practising because he wasn't raised to spend money foolishly.

He's never stuck his foot in his mouth like others, (Vijay on Wie) and handles himself very professional. He has a strong competitive personality that wants to bury you and thats what he did with Rory and Steve. He used his clubs to do this not his mouth. Tell me whats wrong with Tiger? I can't find much. ;)
I, too, admire Tiger. I may have admired his father even more. Tiger is not without social skills and, at base, I think he is a decent human being. But if there is a billionaire on earth who I could feel sorry for, it’s Tiger. He is as carefully programmed and calculating in his public statements as he is because he has to be. He is in the public spotlight every time he steps outside his door. Yuck! Better him than me.

The point of my earlier post was to observe that guys like Tiger Woods and Jack Nicklaus, despite being mostly admirable, are still ruthless competitors. If they weren’t they would not be who they are.

Star56
08-13-07, 11:36 PM
Tiger's occasional curse is nothing. Watching tennis on TV in the mid 70's to the early 1980's was an adventure. Every curse uttered by man was broadcast live...including Jimmy Connors letting out a string of expletives wrapped in a middle finger extended high above his head. Tiger is a kitten compared to those guys.

Tigerfan2006
08-14-07, 12:56 AM
As my username suggests, I'm biased but

Tiger = Class

Sergio = Spoiled Brat

dssturbo1
08-14-07, 03:24 AM
Did you edit his comments or are you really calling for someone to censor "gawd danggit?" With all the stuff I hear and see on TV on a daily basis this is a joke right?
i used gawd danggit, tiger actually said God Dammit, and he has used it before during other pga tour events.

I like tiger and respect him overall because i know he has worked and earned his golfing achievements but the public and kids in particular don't need to hear him say God Dammit multiple times on national tv.

Star56
08-14-07, 06:00 AM
I am a fanatical PGA broadcast archiver. Have all of Tiger's major victories archived on DVD or DVHS. I have even made clips of his various four letter words.

BUT the best is...................

The string of expletives he uttered at Pebble in 2000, Rd 2, 18th hole after hooking his tee shot into the ocean is simply the most clever use of the most gutteral, obscene words in the english language. CLCSMF.

Aliens
08-14-07, 06:11 AM
i used gawd danggit, tiger actually said God Dammit, and he has used it before during other pga tour events.

I like tiger and respect him overall because i know he has worked and earned his golfing achievements but the public and kids in particular don't need to hear him say God Dammit multiple times on national tv.
Not to be insensitive, but that’s life as an adult. Sooner or later those kids are going to see and hear a lot in their lives. With the amount of pressure golfers play under – I’m appreciating it more and more the older I get – and the stakes being so high, it’s perfectly understandable to me that you’re going to have those outbursts. As far as I’m concerned, they have enough on their mind without having to concentrate on what they say during a moment of frustration and anger. I’m sure they would all rather not have those moments, but as I said, that’s life as an adult. If I had a million bucks riding on my play, I can assure you, gawd danggit would be the last thing out of my mouth – its human nature.

gwsat
08-14-07, 08:04 AM
As my username suggests, I'm biased but

Tiger = Class

Sergio = Spoiled Brat
Quite so. Tiger’s father taught him early on that we are one-hundred percent responsible for our actions one-hundred percent of the time. Sergio, alas, has not learned that lesson.

Whenever things don’t go Sergio’s way he looks for someone or something to blame instead of at Number One. His reaction after he signed an incorrect scorecard after the third round of the PGA was a classic example. Instead of manning up and conceding that it was his responsibility to insure the accuracy of his scorecard before he signed it, Sergio whined. His playing partner, Boo Weekley, was equally responsible because he entered a wrong score in the first place, but Boo had the grace to fess up about his responsibility, in stark contrast to Sergio’s cursing the darkness.

jefbal99
08-14-07, 08:13 AM
i used gawd danggit, tiger actually said God Dammit, and he has used it before during other pga tour events.

I like tiger and respect him overall because i know he has worked and earned his golfing achievements but the public and kids in particular don't need to hear him say God Dammit multiple times on national tv.

Go to any sporting event, go to a public golf course, go to a little league baseball game, for christ's sake you'll hear much worse than that from 11yr olds. Its what society has come to and its not gonna change. Swearing for the most part is not only acceptable, its expected in a lot of cases.

One of the reasons I like watching Tiger is because he shows that he truly is human and frustration does occur. I applaud him.