NHL Center Ice in HD this season? .... YES. [Text View]

JMartinko

08-17-07, 11:34 AM

Why not, if most RSNs are now in HD?
I agree, if the RSN's HD versions are available nationally (as I believe they advertised), then I don't see why the HD games wouldn't be open for CI subscribers. They might have to add one or two nightly channels with the Canadian feed for some games as they always do, but they certainly should have the capacity. Now this doesn't get in to the subject of the NY and Philly stations that still balk at allowing their feeds on satellites, but those games are often picked up on Canadian stations.

My only real concern is that last year on VS. and the CBC games, the HD feeds were never picked up on any of the 'spare' channels such as 94 or 95. The second VS. games on the HD channel were often Canadian feeds and ended up in SD even though the HD channel was kept on and the HD version was showing on Canadian services. I hope there is not a rule or lack of an agreement which prevents Canadian broadcasts in HD from being televised here.

Brian_Greer

08-17-07, 11:36 AM

If I had to guess, I would say there is no agreement preventing the broadcasts. Just the broadcasters here don't want to bother with it. D* manages the CI package so horribly (at least over the past few seasons) that I wouldn't waste much time anticipating what they will do with it now.

JMartinko

08-17-07, 11:39 AM

...........D* manages the CI package so horribly (at least over the past few seasons) that I wouldn't waste much time anticipating what they will do with it now.

Can't argue with that statement. I still don't understand why they don't open the feeds from both markets when there are two versions of the same game available anyway.

Brian_Greer

08-17-07, 11:44 AM

Can't argue with that statement. I still don't understand why they don't open the feeds from both markets when there are two versions of the same game available anyway.

I was never able to get a real answer out of them. The best I was ever told was that the contract only allows for one feed of the game. Guess Charlie Ergen got the better deal for his customers while D* continued to sleep at the wheel then. I don't believe it had anything to do with contracts. I think it had everything to do with them not caring at all about the package.

jmj713

08-17-07, 11:46 AM

It would be nice to be offered both feeds of a game like on Dish, but I won't complain if most games will be available in HD instead :)

Brian_Greer

08-17-07, 11:48 AM

It would be nice to be offered both feeds of a game like on Dish, but I won't complain if most games will be available in HD instead :)

Until you miss entire periods because the channel they turned on for the package is wrong, or covering some previous programming that has not finished, while a channel that had the game from the very beginning stays dark.

JMartinko

08-17-07, 11:49 AM

The frustrating part of that is that I am with D* almost exclusively for sports (NFLST). Since they don't compete (or at least haven't until next month) with E* and cable for movie channels, I expect them to at least lead in sports. That is why I have them. I sure hope they take it more seriously this winter.

My best case scenario is that now that they have the HD capacity and suddenly will be real competitors with E* etc. even with movie channels, they will take this all seriously. My worst fear is that they will continue to assume that they have the sports fans stuck with them thanks to NFLST and do not need to take anything else seriously since those fans won't leave them anyway.

blitzen102

08-17-07, 12:25 PM

I agree, if the RSN's HD versions are available nationally (as I believe they advertised), then I don't see why the HD games wouldn't be open for CI subscribers. They might have to add one or two nightly channels with the Canadian feed for some games as they always do, but they certainly should have the capacity. Now this doesn't get in to the subject of the NY and Philly stations that still balk at allowing their feeds on satellites, but those games are often picked up on Canadian stations.

My only real concern is that last year on VS. and the CBC games, the HD feeds were never picked up on any of the 'spare' channels such as 94 or 95. The second VS. games on the HD channel were often Canadian feeds and ended up in SD even though the HD channel was kept on and the HD version was showing on Canadian services. I hope there is not a rule or lack of an agreement which prevents Canadian broadcasts in HD from being televised here.

Again, most of the RSNs offer games in HD - but not ALL of the games on these are broadcast in HD. Here in Minnesota we got 11 Wild games in HD last year on FSN North and they say that they will at least double that this year. That means we still probably will get less than half of the games in HD.

JMartinko

08-17-07, 12:51 PM

Again, most of the RSNs offer games in HD - but not ALL of the games on these are broadcast in HD. Here in Minnesota we got 11 Wild games in HD last year on FSN North and they say that they will at least double that this year. That means we still probably will get less than half of the games in HD.
Obviously D* or anyone else can't offer a game in HD if no one televises it that way. I feel bad about your Wild games, it sounds like the local FSRN is behind the curve, here in Denver all Avs home games are in HD, not sure if any road games will be that way this year. In a few markets (NY) I think nearly all games are in HD. I only would expect D* to offer games televised in HD to us in HD. That is one of the reasons that I would like to see both teams feeds available. I am sure in some cases this year, the 'selected' D* telecast might only be in SD but the other teams' market telecast might be in HD. I would be nice to be able to choose.

lokar

08-20-07, 11:17 AM

That is one of the reasons that I would like to see both teams feeds available. I am sure in some cases this year, the 'selected' D* telecast might only be in SD but the other teams' market telecast might be in HD. I would be nice to be able to choose.

I am really curious as to how D* will handle this issue (visiting RSN shows in HD, home RSN doesn't) due to their obsession with showing only home team broadcasts all the time. I have emailed them several times about this issue and they refuse to change. <old_man_rant>I wish they would do what Primestar (anybody remember them?) did for NHLCI and have a thirty channel range where one channel was for each team. That channel would have that team's broadcast on it or the opposing team's broadcast if that team's wasn't available (e.g. channel 557=Sharks would have FSNBA broadcast unless they weren't showing it and then it would have other team's broadcast). If you wanted the other team's broadcast for some reason, you could just go to their channel. This was really nice because you would always know exactly what channel your team was on. But then D* bought them out for the sole purpose of shutting them down, that's capitalism for you...</old_man_rant>

blitzen102

08-20-07, 12:01 PM

Dish had both the home and visitor feeds last year (SD).

JMartinko

08-20-07, 12:30 PM

Dish had both the home and visitor feeds last year (SD).

I am aware of that, that is why I don't understand why D* does things the way they do. Obviously the contract can be written to allow both feeds. Let's hope they allow that this year, at least for HD feeds. Unfortunately (at least for me) E* doesn't offer NFLST too.

Pelican123

08-20-07, 12:32 PM

For the Penguins fans this is from their web site.
“FSN plans to bring its viewers at least 70 games this season with 36 of them available in High Definition.”
I sure hope that D* offers them because I want to see my Pens in HD! :)
Actually I want to see as much HD hockey as possible!

fireshoes

08-20-07, 12:41 PM

Versus announced their NHL schedule last week, carrying 57 games, all produced in HD!

http://www.versus.com/nw/article/view/40544/?tf=sports_generic_article2.tpl

The network’s full schedule follows (subject to change):
*Denotes exclusive Game of the Week

Sun. Sept. 30 Anaheim at Los Angeles 12:00 PM
Wed. Oct. 3* Anaheim at Detroit 7:00 PM
Wed. Oct. 3* Dallas at Colorado 9:30 PM
Tue. Oct. 9* Carolina at Toronto 7:00 PM
Wed. Oct. 10 N.Y. Rangers at N.Y. Islanders 7:00 PM
Mon. Oct. 15 Toronto at Buffalo 7:00 PM
Tue. Oct. 16* Atlanta at Philadelphia 7:00 PM
Mon. Oct. 22 Boston at Montreal 7:30 PM
Tue. Oct. 23* N.Y. Rangers at Pittsburgh 7:00 PM
Mon. Oct. 29 San Jose at Dallas 8:00 PM
Tue. Oct. 30* Pittsburgh at Minnesota 7:00 PM
Mon. Nov. 5 Philadelphia at N.Y. Rangers 7:00 PM
Tue. Nov. 6* N.Y. Rangers at N.Y. Islanders 7:00 PM
Mon. Nov. 12 Carolina at Florida 7:30 PM
Tue. Nov. 13* Detroit at St. Louis 8:00 PM
Mon. Nov. 19 Tampa Bay at Atlanta 7:00 PM
Tue. Nov. 20* Boston at Toronto 7:00 PM
Mon. Nov. 26 Buffalo at Washington 7:00 PM
Tue. Nov. 27* Calgary at Detroit 7:00 PM
Mon. Dec. 3 Dallas at Columbus 7:00 PM
Tue. Dec. 4* Detroit at Montreal 7:30 PM
Mon. Dec. 10 Boston at Buffalo 7:00 PM
Tue. Dec. 11* Pittsburgh at Philadelphia 7:00 PM
Mon. Dec. 17* Washington at Detroit 7:00 PM
Tue. Dec. 18 Ottawa at Boston 7:00 PM
Mon. Dec. 31* St. Louis at Detroit 7:00 PM
Wed. Jan. 2 Atlanta at Carolina 7:00 PM
Tue. Jan. 8 Colorado at Detroit 7:30 PM
Mon. Jan. 14* N.Y. Rangers at Pittsburgh 7:00 PM
Tue. Jan. 15 Montreal at N.Y. Islanders 7:00 PM
Mon. Jan. 21* Washington at Pittsburgh 7:30 PM
Tue. Jan. 22 Boston at Montreal 7:30 PM
Sat. Jan. 26 All-Star Skills 7:00 PM
Sun. Jan. 27 All-Star Game 7:00 PM
Tue. Jan. 29 Buffalo at Tampa Bay 7:00 PM
Tue. Jan. 29 San Jose at Edmonton 9:30 PM
Wed. Jan. 30 Anaheim at Minnesota 7:00 PM
Wed. Jan. 30 Chicago at Colorado 9:30 PM
Mon. Feb. 4* Pittsburgh at New Jersey 7:00 PM
Tue. Feb. 5 Carolina at Nashville 8:00 PM
Mon. Feb. 11* Phoenix at Dallas 7:00 PM
Tue. Feb. 12 Philadelphia at N.Y. Islanders 7:00 PM
Tue. Feb. 12 Anaheim at Colorado 9:30 PM
Mon. Feb. 18* Detroit at Colorado 8:00 PM
Tue. Feb. 19 Chicago at St. Louis 8:00 PM
Mon. Feb. 25* Philadelphia at Buffalo 7:00 PM
Tue. Feb. 26 New Jersey at Carolina 7:00 PM
Mon. March 03* Boston at Washington 7:00 PM
Tue. March 4 Buffalo at Philadelphia 7:00 PM
Tue. March 4 Vancouver at Colorado 9:30 PM
Mon. March 10* N.Y. Rangers at Buffalo 7:00 PM
Tue. March 11 New Jersey at Montreal 7:30 PM
Mon. March 17* Colorado at Minnesota 7:00 PM
Tue. March 18 Atlanta at Philadelphia 7:00 PM
Mon. March 24* Pittsburgh at N.Y. Islanders 7:00 PM
Tue. March 25 Philadelphia at N.Y. Rangers 7:00 PM
Mon. March 31* Pittsburgh at N.Y. Rangers 7:00 PM
Tue. April 1 TBD
Tue. April 1 Colorado at Vancouver 10:00 PM

jmj713

08-24-07, 01:30 PM

Any news on this? :(

jefbal99

08-24-07, 03:36 PM

Any news on this? :(

I spoke with a Comcast Exec yesterday and he stated that he was 90% sure that my market would be getting InDemand PPV HD, including Center Ice/League Pass. He needed to verify some info and would be getting back with me early next week. I will let you know what I find out

beaudot

08-24-07, 04:32 PM

Anyone know if there is any chance FIOS TV will have Center Ice this year?

capsfan

08-25-07, 02:03 PM

JMartinko

08-25-07, 05:12 PM

.................
Does anyone that had Center ice remember if the games were simulcast on their prospective sports channels along with the Center ice channels or were they blacked out on the sports channels?

I don't think I looked very often last year, but in the past, they have had both the channel in the CI package and the RSN open if the RSN channel is the one used in the CI package. I will not say for sure that is always true, since it is usually easier switch up and down the channels during commercials at the CI locations. A LOT of the game telecasts are from Canada, (TSN & CBC) so those games do not have matching RSN channels open. Who knows how they will handle the HD versions.

Five Hole

08-25-07, 06:02 PM

Anyone know if there is any chance FIOS TV will have Center Ice this year?

From http://www.longhornxp.net/Verizon.html

One big drawback with Verizon FIOS TV is the issue with InDemand. InDemand is a company that offers the two InHD channels along with PPV On Demand titles and many of the Sports subscriptions. InDemand is partly owned by several of the top cable companies such as Time Warner Cable, Bright House Networks, Comcast Cable among others. Because of this they are pulling some unfair pricing tactics that are keeping DirecTV and Dish Network from offering the two InHD channels but these tactics are hurting Verizon more as its not just the two InHD channels but the sports subscriptions as well.

DirecTV and Dish Network have deals in place for the sports packages while Verizon is a new entrant without a deal so they are getting the hard end of the stick. I expect this to be handled quicker than most think but until that time the following channels and packages aren't on Verizon FIOS TV.

The two InHD channels of course.

Sports Packages include the following below.

MLB Extra Innings.
NBA League Pass.
NHL Center Ice.
Nascar InCar.
MLS Direct Kick.

Until this InDemand issue gets cleared up these sports packages listed above and the two InHD channels will "not" be offered on Verizon FIOS TV.

hokiefan

08-25-07, 06:24 PM

Are DirectTV's HD-RSNs on spotbeam or conus Transponders? I thought that they were on spotbeam since they were part of the MPEG4 locals. Of course they could go conus when D* launches their new HD plan in Sept.

Dish Network has their HD-RSN on Conus TPs, but half of them are on 129 and the others are on 61.5, so your average HD customer will only see about half of them if they are made available.

I would assume any Dish sports HD offerings would timeshare with the upcoming 9 HD PPV channels. With some creative thinking I bet they can offer the RSN HDs, PPV HD, and CI/NBA/whatever else HD. Of course, they'd actually have to offer the sports pack.. MLB EI anyone?

RoyGBiv

08-26-07, 12:05 PM

I'm just trying to figure out if Directv will have alot more games in HD this year. If they're launching all those sports channels in HD, and you get the NHL center ice package it would seem to me that those sports channels would then be showing their games on the sports channels in HD if available. I'm just trying to find out if that's indeed the case before ordering Directv.

My son and I are diehard hockey fans and the only HD games we can currently get on Time-warner are the Bruins on NESN. We don't even get Versus in HD. If launching all those sports channels in HD means more hockey in HD then count me in because watching hockey games in SD is just painful! I just haven't gotten any sort of confirmation yet and don't want to pull the trigger only to find the sports channels blacked out while the games are broadcast in SD on the Center ice channels.

Does anyone that had Center ice remember if the games were simulcast on their prospective sports channels along with the Center ice channels or were they blacked out on the sports channels?

I can almost guarantee you will get at least more HD hockey because you will get Versus. D* will be lighting up the new satellite within the next few weeks, and everyone is certain Versus/Golf will be one of the first HD channels added. All the Versus games this year will be in HD. Also, almost certainly you will still get NESN in HD. Right now D* is only broadcasting NESN in HD in Boston, but it will shortly make NESN available in HD to the surrounding areas that currently get it in SD.

Last year D* also showed at least a few games a week from the CI package in HD, and everyone is expecting, though D* certainly hasn't confirmed it, that there will be CI in HD.

So, switching to D* will certainly give you more than you had with TWC.

SMK

jmj713

08-26-07, 02:27 PM

It certainly is logical that with launching of all these RSNs in HD nationally that Center Ice games, where available, will be shown in HD. But who knows? :(

5w30

08-26-07, 09:20 PM

eddieras

08-30-07, 09:45 PM

oh, i think i've finally found the people to help me!
i've been a centre ice subscriber with directv for 9 years, but HATE the fact they don't show both feeds (called many times to complain, myself). now with the new bird rendering my hd tivo useless soon i realized this is my chance to check out Dish -

a few questions
are both feeds (home/away) a standard with Dish-can i expect that this year?
Does Dish show Hockey Nite in Canada?
Any word on the NHL Network coming to Dish (heck, i'll settle for sd)
does Dish show centre ice games in HD, besides vs and hdnet??

anyone use the vip 722 dvr from dish? how do you like it??

thanks so much- i've spent the better part of this afternoon and tonite trying to research this and see if i should make the switch.

also- any links re dish, etc would be helpful too

JackB

08-31-07, 12:09 AM

eddieras,

I am in the exact same situation as you. I had actually ordered Dish but when they arrived they didn't deliver what the rep had promised. So I canceled the deal. I believe that any NHL game broadcast on an FSN regional channel in HD will be turned on for a CI subscriber. The only issue might be in your own market where they won't broadcast the visiting teams coverage, SD or HD, when they are playing your team. Likewise, when your team is playing away and that market broadcast in HD and yours does not, you will be blacked out on the other teams HD telecast. I'm lucky as I am located out of my teams market so I will get all of the games they play in HD.

If you have learned anything contrary to this let me know as I'm getting ready to order my D* MPEG4 stuff.

eddieras

08-31-07, 06:01 PM

thanks jack- i've been a CI subscriber for 9 years- but i love the fact that dish shows home and away broadcast - just trying to find out if this is a yearly thing and if they'll still do so this coming season. too bad about your install problem = i guess you really have to pay very close attention to these things!

anyone else have any insight to the following:

Does Dish show Hockey Nite in Canada - or is this always on Centre Ice regardless of carrier?
Any word on the NHL Network coming to Dish (heck, i'll settle for sd)
Directv shows some centre ice games in HD on temporary channels (not counting on vs and hdnet) - was wondering if dish does likewise.

anyone use the vip 722 dvr from dish? how do you like it??

thanks again!

rdgamblr

09-01-07, 08:42 PM

I can answer only dish ?'s

Yes they since the lockout have shown both feeds to every game if available I usually watch the candian feed if thats an option.

HNIC is always broadcasted on ch 540 for the enitre night. The only dowfall is some night after the end of the second game they would shut the feed off instead of showing the after hours show whatever its called.

I am also planning on moving to D* but hate the fact of losing the game feed options

eddieras

09-01-07, 09:00 PM

thanks so much for the info - did dish show any HD games - besides what was on hdnet and versus?

curious- why are you moving to directv? i'm leaving directv for dish!
which reciever do you have with dish?

GutBomb

09-02-07, 06:04 PM

It is now available to be ordered on DirecTV. The CSR i talked to (i think it was in the Philippines) didn;t know about HD, and it was somewhat telling to me that she said the channels it will be on are 764-776. That's only 13 channels. That says to me that they are NOT going to be doing HD the same way they are with sunday ticket, because 13 channels just isn't enough.

Hopefully something gets worked out.

Vidboy65

09-02-07, 07:24 PM

How is watching hockey on on Plasma/LCD is the picture streaky? this question is coming from a person still in CRTland. I do have an HD Sat receiver but no big screen w/ HD (will in the next couple months as I'm moving into a bigger house) I worked in the video biz for many years and can't stand "seeing" defect in the picture streaking, pixelation.....It would drive me crazy and everything I read in these forums makes me want to stay with my poor 27' CRT. I mostly watch regular TV and lots of hockey, little DVD and no HD-DVD/BRay. I hear Plasma is better overall for motion and SD content but LCD is catching up, what have you guys found for the best combination for SD/HD Hockey?

Filthy McNasty

09-03-07, 07:56 AM

How is watching hockey on on Plasma/LCD is the picture streaky?

As one with a 36" Sony HD CRT(equivalent to 33" in 16X9), I have looked into extensively as the WAF wants a LCD/Plasma. I have seen this streaking on all of my friends sets, but they all claim it's because their LCD/Plasma sets are much bigger (42" to 60") than mine.

I saw a Sony LCD at a big box store that did not streak on HNIC broadcasts. So I checked out HD hockey at a Sony Store where all their models were on 1 wall. Only the most expensive model did not streak.

As for plasmas, the cheap models all made HD hockey look like widescreen SD. So I told the wife to save for a top of the line from Pioneer, no way am I going to watch hockey on a HD set that makes the picture look worse than our old 27" SD Sony XBR

amstrad

09-03-07, 07:59 AM

thanks for the info

gregor7777

09-06-07, 09:09 AM

jefbal99

09-06-07, 09:42 AM

Sweet, Sabres in HD at least once a month? I guess I can live with that.

Now, if only Comcast here in Florida would let me purchase the CI package NOW. They told me it was not yet offered for this year.

InDemand doesn't not have anything setup yet for 07/08 CI

gregor7777

09-08-07, 10:31 AM

InDemand doesn't not have anything setup yet for 07/08 CI

Despite the double negative :) I think you're saying that they haven't set up the programming yet for this season?

That doesn't seem right...I seem to remember them running specials this time of year for early sign-ups...

Perhaps my memory is failing me at a young age...or perhaps they've downgraded the importance of hockey...shame either way.

jefbal99

09-09-07, 11:39 AM

Despite the double negative :) I think you're saying that they haven't set up the programming yet for this season?

That doesn't seem right...I seem to remember them running specials this time of year for early sign-ups...

Perhaps my memory is failing me at a young age...or perhaps they've downgraded the importance of hockey...shame either way.

Yeah, typo on my part, check the site www.indemand.com. Says check back next season for special 07-08 offers.

gregor7777

09-10-07, 05:34 PM

Yeah, typo on my part, check the site www.indemand.com. Says check back next season for special 07-08 offers.

Damn them. I want to give them my money.

jefbal99

09-11-07, 07:26 AM

Damn them. I want to give them my money.

I would like to as well, but not until I'm guaranteed to see the HD offerings that are part of the package that I pay for

I WANT MORE

09-11-07, 09:22 AM

InDemand doesn't not have anything setup yet for 07/08 CI

InDemand no longer exists. It is now MOJO. No more baseball, hockey, or any other mainstream sport.

jefbal99

09-11-07, 09:37 AM

InDemand no longer exists. It is now MOJO. No more baseball, hockey, or any other mainstream sport.

That was InHD and InHD2, they were cable HD channels that carried all HD content. Some of that was from InDemand and its owners. Those channels were merged at the end of 2006 and was rebranded to MojoHD this past spring. Mojo was a block of original programming on InHD and was expanded to take over the entire thing.

InDemand is a completely different beast. InDemand is a provider of PPV events and Season pass sports packages to most cable companies.

See www.indemand.com for more information.

See www.mojohd.com for info about the HD cable channel.

For this discussion we are talking about the NHL Center Ice package that is offered from InDemand via your local cable company. D* and E* have their own packages with the same name, but under separate contracts. E* tends to offer both home and away feeds and both offer more HD games.

I WANT MORE

09-11-07, 09:43 AM

I stand corrected. Thanks

Marcus Carr

09-11-07, 09:49 AM

MOJO is owned by iN DEMAND Networks. That's how they were getting MLB and NHL games that were separate from the Center Ice and Extra Innings packages.

gregor7777

09-11-07, 09:54 AM

For this discussion we are talking about the NHL Center Ice package that is offered from InDemand via your local cable company. D* and E* have their own packages with the same name, but under separate contracts. E* tends to offer both home and away feeds and both offer more HD games.

Is that true? I really wish I could put up a dish at my apartment. :(

FlasHBurN

09-13-07, 04:41 PM

Any new information about Center Ice in HD?

eddieras

09-13-07, 04:45 PM

i'm waiting to hear back from an exec at Dish regarding HD, NHL Network and televsing both feeds - i'll post when i hear back

Q-bert

09-13-07, 08:41 PM

Folks - I've heard we're all in limbo with the 07/08 Center Ice info because the league (Gary & Co.) are waiting until around Sept. 19th to make a big NHL marketing push. Included with that are the details around Center Ice availability. Also if you're TV provider doesn't offer it you can always sign up for the Online Center Ice option. They'll be streaming up to 700kbps which provides viewable hockey at 640x480. As for the HD offering on Center Ice, the league intends to ramp that up as well.

eddieras

09-14-07, 07:47 AM

from the Toronto Globe and Mail

NHL Network will launch in the United States in time for the start of the regular season, sources say. The network, which operates out of Toronto, will air basically the same programming in the United States as it does in Canada.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070913.wsptruth13/BNStory/Sports/columnists

gregor7777

09-17-07, 09:08 AM

blitzen102

09-17-07, 10:14 AM

My guess is that if it happens it's part of the $10 p/month sports package on Comcast. The one that has the NFL channel.

Guys, see previous posts. Comcast will be adding the NHL Network in some areas (including mine) on October 1st. For me, it is in the $5.99 per month Sports Entertainment package.

eddieras

09-17-07, 10:16 AM

any word on Dish or Directv?

blitzen102

09-17-07, 10:50 AM

any word on Dish or Directv?

Per Q-bert, expect word on Wednesday.

FUCCO

09-17-07, 11:03 AM

it is listed in the new direct tv channels that are supposed to come in october

FlasHBurN

09-17-07, 12:01 PM

it is listed in the new direct tv channels that are supposed to come in october

Didn't it only list a single station as "NHL"? Many people are guessing is the NHL Network channel.

I've heard 2 different responses in the last week from D* customer service reps. The first one, on Friday said they would be getting over 200 games in HD. The second rep, on Saturday claimed ALL games would be in HD. I guess we will find out soon enough.

blitzen102

09-17-07, 12:04 PM

InDemand no longer exists. It is now MOJO. No more baseball, hockey, or any other mainstream sport.

We're still getting regional MLB, NHL, and NBA games here on Mojo so... speak for yourself.

FlasHBurN

09-17-07, 12:06 PM

jefbal99

09-17-07, 12:10 PM

We're still getting regional MLB, NHL, and NBA games here on Mojo so... speak for yourself.

That may be a shared channel in your area, are the games from your local RSN?

blitzen102

09-17-07, 12:42 PM

That may be a shared channel in your area, are the games from your local RSN?

Yes.

The Dish guide shows some pre-season games:

9/20 Wild @ Wings 6:30 pm 430 FSD

9/21 Devils @ Rangers 7:00 pm 412 MSG

9/22 Flyers @ Rangers 7:00 pm 412 MSG

9/24 Wings @ Lightning 7:00 pm 422 SUN

JMartinko

09-17-07, 12:52 PM

Does anyone know how the RSN "Sports Channel" package from D* works? I am really only interested in watching the New Jersey games, but I live in Florida. Looking at last years schedule, out of MSG and FSN NY I should be able to get at least the majority of the home games. Would I be able to get those games if I only picked up the RSN package? Or would those be blacked out?

Pro sports games on the RSNs with the sports package are always blacked out. You would only get the pre-game and post-game shows. You need the subscription to the CI package to get the out of market games. I believe the RSN package will only get you your local RSN games which in your case are Florida teams. Not sure which area you are in in terms of which channel is your 'local' RSN. If you get the CI package you should receive all of the telecasts you are looking for.

FlasHBurN

09-17-07, 04:44 PM

Pro sports games on the RSNs with the sports package are always blacked out. You would only get the pre-game and post-game shows. You need the subscription to the CI package to get the out of market games. I believe the RSN package will only get you your local RSN games which in your case are Florida teams. Not sure which area you are in in terms of which channel is your 'local' RSN. If you get the CI package you should receive all of the telecasts you are looking for.

Okay, thanks. I assumed that would be the case, because if not, not very many people would buy these Season passes.

JayPSU

09-17-07, 04:57 PM

Yes.

The Dish guide shows some pre-season games:

9/20 Wild @ Wings 6:30 pm 430 FSD

9/21 Devils @ Rangers 7:00 pm 412 MSG

9/22 Flyers @ Rangers 7:00 pm 412 MSG

9/24 Wings @ Lightning 7:00 pm 422 SUN

And since these are pre-season games, I'm pretty sure they are NOT blacked out.

perilous

09-17-07, 05:00 PM

Pro sports games on the RSNs with the sports package are always blacked out. You would only get the pre-game and post-game shows. You need the subscription to the CI package to get the out of market games. I believe the RSN package will only get you your local RSN games which in your case are Florida teams. Not sure which area you are in in terms of which channel is your 'local' RSN. If you get the CI package you should receive all of the telecasts you are looking for.

Unfortunately not "all", but most -- also, you won't necessarily get the NJDevils broadcast (and announcers) always; instead, you will get the other team's -- they pick and choose "out of market" broadcasts on CI, not both teams' broadcasts....overall, CI is great and we are all hoping much more HD (including CBC Hockey Night in Canada on Sat. nights)!!!!!

eddieras

09-17-07, 05:09 PM

JMartinko

09-17-07, 05:54 PM

Unfortunately not "all", but most -- also, you won't necessarily get the NJDevils broadcast (and announcers) always; instead, you will get the other team's -- they pick and choose "out of market" broadcasts on CI, not both teams' broadcasts....overall, CI is great and we are all hoping much more HD (including CBC Hockey Night in Canada on Sat. nights)!!!!!

That is true, at least in previous years you would see the game for sure (which was the point of my posting), but not necessarily on the NY channels. Often they have used Canadian feeds such as CBC, but you should see all the games. No one knows if D* will allow us to watch both market feeds this year like Dish has done. D* has not announced it yet. The hope of everyone with D* is that since the RSN's HD channels will all be national beams that they will always open up the HD channel for both markets, which for most of the NY/NJ teams would mean a LOT of HD feeds from their local sports networks.

AFAIK, Dish does will not have national feeds for each of the HD RSN's so if you don't live in NY/NJ you may not get an HD feed for each game unless they provide some alternative channel for HD hockey games. If they do that, I wouldn't think they would provide two HD feeds for the same game, so they may choose for you with HD. D* may do the same for games with Canadian channels which are not full time national RSN's. but I don't think anyone knows for sure how they will do it this year. Likely D* and Dish don't even know yet for sure.

jmj713

09-17-07, 06:13 PM

And since these are pre-season games, I'm pretty sure they are NOT blacked out.

I have the Sports Pack with DirecTV but from my experience pre-season games have been blacked out. But I'd love a complete schedule of televised pre-season games.

grunzster

09-17-07, 07:59 PM

Yep, if Center Ice comes through with D* in HD, still won't get most of the Eastern Division in HD [Phila, NYR, NYI, NJ] and Buffalo due to competitive issues. Industry, that is, not hockey.
Don't worry, there's lots of other hockey oot there, eh?

Huh?

When I signed up, they told me I'd get MSG in HD with the CI and HD package. Was I lied to?

Where the **** are Rangers fans in central NJ supposed to get games in HD?

The garbage cable company in my town doesn't have it.
Dish at first told me they did, then when I called back said no, but maybe 1st quarter, when they ad a bunch of new HD channels. So if I'm lucky, maybe I'll get HD in time for the playoffs.

Now looking at this post it sounds like Direct TV isn't going to give me Rangers games in HD either.

Or will I get them, because MSG is considered a local channel for me?

Of course, I'm in an apartment complex, and found out they may have no place with clear line of site to install the dish on my building anyway.

broadwayblue

09-19-07, 04:22 PM

Per Q-bert, expect word on Wednesday.

So has there been an announcement regarding Center Ice yet?

eddieras

09-19-07, 04:31 PM

So has there been an announcement regarding Center Ice yet?

check out this link showing new channels on dish - a lot of NHL HD and nhl network - but this is all new to me. i'm still trying to find out if this means its official.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1037545-post2.html

SAC-CA-HT

09-19-07, 04:56 PM

Also keep in mind(and this got me VERY VERY angry the other day) is that "supposedly" there will be different Groups to the RSN's. So for instance like myself who lives in Sacramento, CA and we get FSN Bay Area for Sharks, Giants, and A's(I ONLY care about the Sharks) in SD, we WILL NOT be getting them in HD as D* is going to continue to spotbeam the HD to local area codes/towns(SF/SJ) as they do currently. They won't show the games all time, just on games, or any for us outside the spotbeam. See the copied info below........

If this is true I will be calling D* EVERY DAY to get some Sharks in HD!!!!

Saw this posted by someone else (who happens to say he is a DTV employee) that this is the schedule for the rollout of the RSN's in HD...not sure if this is new info or has been around for a while.

Which RSNs are available in HD on a 24/7 basis?
oDIRECTV will offer the following Regional Sports Networks (RSNs) in HD on a 24/7 basis. The following charts provide HD launch date and HD channel number(s).

Chart A
RSN HD Launch Date HD Channel Number
FSNY Sep 19, 2007 (tentative) 624
MSG Sep 19, 2007 (tentative) 621

Chart B
RSN HD Launch Date HD Channel Number
CSN Chicago Oct 1, 2007 (tentative) 640 or 680
CSN Mid-Atlantic Oct 1, 2007 (tentative) 629 or 681
NESN Oct 1, 2007 (tentative) 623 or 682
SNY Oct 1, 2007 (tentative) 625 or 683
YES Oct 1, 2007 (tentative) 622 or 684

*Important note for RSNs in Chart B: If customer could see HD RSN on SD channel number prior to Oct 1, 2007 and lost access after Oct 1, 2007, the customer may require B-Band Converter. Until customer receives B-Band Converter, may see HD RSN on other channel number listed above.

Chart C
RSN HD Launch Date HD Channel
Number HD Channel Number for Games Only until Oct 17, 2007 HD Spot Beam Territory
FSN Detroit Oct 17, 2007 (tentative) 636 96 Detroit DMA
FSN Prime Ticket Oct 17, 2007 (tentative) 653 96 Los Angeles DMA
FSN Southwest Oct 17, 2007 (tentative) 643 96 Dallas and Houston DMAs
FSN West Oct 17, 2007 (tentative) 652 96 Los Angeles DMA

*Important note for RSNs in Chart C: If customer could see HD RSN on SD channel number prior to Oct 17, 2007 and lost access after Oct 17, 2007, customer may require B-Band Converter. As of Oct 17, 2007 HD RSNs in Chart C are no longer available on Ch. 96 in HD Spot Beam Territory listed above.

*Which RSNs feature HD games only?
oDIRECTV will offer all of the HD games broadcast on the following RSNs. Chart D below provides HD launch date and HD channel numbers:

Chart D
RSN HD Launch Date HD Channel Number
CSN West Oct 17, 2007 (tentative) 656-1
FSN Midwest Oct 17, 2007 (tentative) 647-1
FSN Pittsburgh Oct 17, 2007 (tentative) 628-1

*Which RSNs feature HD Games Only in the Spot Beam Territory?
oDIRECTV will continue to offer HD games from RSNs in Chart E below in Spot Beam Territory:

Chart E
RSN HD Channel Number HD Spot Beam Territory
Altitude 97 Denver DMA
FSN Arizona 96 Phoenix DMA
FSN Bay Area 96 San Francisco DMA
FSN Florida 96 Miami/Orlando/Tampa DMAs
FSN New England 96 Boston DMA
FSN North 96 Minneapolis DMA
FSN Northwest 96 Seattle DMA
FSN Ohio 96 Cleveland DMA
FSN Rocky Mountain 97 Denver DMA
FSN South 96 Atlanta DMA
SportSouth 96 Atlanta DMA
SportsTime Ohio 96 Cleveland DMA
Sun Sports 96 Miami/Orlando/Tampa DMAs

grunzster

09-19-07, 09:41 PM

That's greeeeeeeeeeat!!!
Every single one of them says "tentative".

Meanwhile they're lying their asses off to new potential customers.

Hughmc

09-20-07, 01:55 AM

My local cable co gives me a channel called THD, I believe it means Team HD which is an InDemand channel. InDemand is the same company that provides the NHL Center Ice package to cable companies.

According to my rep, anytime there is a broadcast NHL game in in HD it will default to the THD channel. Now I know there are several games per day in HD so I am thinking it will be random as to which game or team is shown. I didn't have this channel last year so I don't know exactly how it will work.

I have INHD and last year the HD versus game would default to the INHD channel. As the end of the season came, basketball games in HD defaulted to that channel instead of hockey.

capsfan

09-20-07, 02:58 AM

I don't know about anyone else but I'm getting sick and tired of waiting for someone (D* or E*) to decide what's going to happen with Center Ice as it pertains to HD broadcasts! I'm interested in getting satellite for CI and I will go with whoever has more HD games. The season starts in less than 2 weeks and we're no closer to knowing what's going to happen.

D* is supposed to be launching RSN's on conus which in theory would provide a significant amount of HD games. I'm assuming that the HD broadcasts wouldn't be blacked out(As Fredfa also believes) since there isn't a superfan option with CI. I get conflicting info. from CSR's on this. Also, Comcast sportsnet Mid-Atlantic (The Capitals network) is supposed to be available in HD.

On the otherhand E* has reported via a recent Charlie Chat that MOST CI games will be available in HD as well as the NHL network. The problem is that negotiations haven't been finalized as of yet. Also, Comcast sportsnet Mid-Atlantic is not available in HD(Not sure if this will effect the claim of most games being in HD or not) on E*.

There seem to be pros and cons to both providers and I'm just trying to get definitive information before taking the plunge. You would think that something would be announced by now. Come on guys get the word out!:(

beaudot

09-20-07, 08:49 AM

broadwayblue

09-20-07, 04:08 PM

This is getting ridiculous...9 days from opening night and still no announcement??? What are they waiting for?

eddieras

09-20-07, 04:12 PM

This is getting ridiculous...9 days from opening night and still no announcement??? What are they waiting for?

couldn't agree more! i monitoring three boards dbstalk, satelliteguys in addition to this one. i've emailed the 'executive' at dish who responded last week - i've emailed two times since and nothing. i just tried live chat but they still say 'check back' - i even emailed CI via NHL.com - haven't heard a thing!

i'm planning a switching from directv to dish - IF they come thru with hd games, home/away feeds and NHL Network- now i'm wondering if i can get an install in time!

blitzen102

09-20-07, 04:34 PM

Not HD but.....

www.nhl.tv/team/console

This is NHL Center Ice - Internet version. Free until October 9th. I watched the Wild vs. Red Wings game on Tuesday night. Very good PQ.

broadwayblue

09-21-07, 10:05 AM

I'm hearing that TWC has told people this morning that they will be carrying CI this season, and that the package will be loaded in the system this afternoon. No word on HD or the NHL Network.

broadwayblue

09-21-07, 01:53 PM

Now I'm hearing that TWC will not be offering CI this season. What a mess.

gregor7777

09-21-07, 02:23 PM

This is unbelievable.

At this point I'm not even worried about the HD. I just want to sign up for CI.

broadwayblue

09-21-07, 05:40 PM

Ok, looks like it was a false alarm about TWC not carrying CI.

"Dear Mr. X;

Not sure where you are hearing that we won't be carrying it. We are in the process of finishing our contract and fully intend to carry Center Ice. Indeed, we are working with the NHL to find interesting ways to enhance the package for our customers. We have a good relationship with the NHL and are actively working with them. Please be patient.

Regards, Melinda Witmer"

5w30

09-21-07, 09:17 PM

They will NOT get HD games for the MSG family of channels [Rangers, Islanders, Devils, Sabres] and Comcast's Flyers. Anyone else who saying anything different is full of it.

davewolfs

09-21-07, 09:42 PM

Eh Dishnetwork, it's aboot time you give me some damn hockey in HD! Go Habs!

eddieras

09-22-07, 08:44 AM

anyone know if the rangers/ devils game was on dish last nite on msg?

i have directv (planning on going to dish once CI is announced) and they showed the first period - then blacked out the rest. they even blacked out the 2 airings of rangers in 60 that showed overnite.

FUCCO

09-22-07, 12:09 PM

does anyone have a link to the schedule to center ice. I have directv for what its worth and they have last years schedule still listed

gregor7777

09-23-07, 09:25 AM

Called Comcast (I live in South Florida) and they told me to call back on the 1st of Oct. to inquire about CI.

damn them.

jmj713

09-23-07, 12:14 PM

A bit of unsettling news from the DirecTV magazine with the new channel lineup. No HD channels listed under Center Ice: http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=attachmentva3.jpg

grunzster

09-23-07, 07:29 PM

GutBomb

09-24-07, 12:00 AM

A bit of unsettling news from the DirecTV magazine with the new channel lineup. No HD channels listed under Center Ice: http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=attachmentva3.jpg

Well, that magazine was finalized 2 months ago, so there's a chance things have changed since then. Hopefully they will at least stick a game or 2 where they are sticking some MLB HD games now, or turn of the blackouts on the HD RSN's that are carrying the games for center ice subscribers.

bwaldron

09-24-07, 01:10 AM

Well, that magazine was finalized 2 months ago, so there's a chance things have changed since then. Hopefully they will at least stick a game or 2 where they are sticking some MLB HD games now, or turn of the blackouts on the HD RSN's that are carrying the games for center ice subscribers.

I certainly hope so.

blitzen102

09-24-07, 11:14 AM

Called Comcast (I live in South Florida) and they told me to call back on the 1st of Oct. to inquire about CI.

damn them.

I signed up with CI on Comcast here over a week ago.

I don't expect the channels to show up in the guide until around October 1st, though.

broadwayblue

09-24-07, 11:58 AM

So what happened with the announcement? What are they waiting for...opening night is this Saturday!

gregor7777

09-24-07, 01:18 PM

I signed up with CI on Comcast here over a week ago.

I don't expect the channels to show up in the guide until around October 1st, though.

Perhaps down here it's a different deal..they were quite clear about Oct. 1st.

RemyM

09-25-07, 10:16 AM

The indemand website was just updated with info about CI.
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/center_ice_information/

Feddie

09-25-07, 10:26 AM

Other than the free preview dates, I don't see any other information.

blitzen102

09-25-07, 11:16 AM

Other than the free preview dates, I don't see any other information.

I didn't either.

HiJeffinition

09-26-07, 11:25 AM

This is Cablevision's current stance on the CI subject:

Cablevision has offered customers access to the NHL Center Ice package for many years, and is pursuing the rights to offer these out-of-market games again during the 2007-2008 season. We will provide updates to our customers as additional information becomes available. (http://optimum.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/optimum.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2094&p_created=1159453317&p_sid=iKlJVGMi&p_accessibility=&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0 yJnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1 hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PWNlbnR lciBpY2UgSEQ*&p_li=&p_topview=1)

Again, let's wait until the last minute to figure this out, idiots. Eh, at least I have Rangers/Devils/Isles in HD for now. I wouldn't bother signing up for CI unless it had a lot of HD games.

Oh, and the first game of the year (9/29) won't be on in my area (since I don't have CBC or HDNet). So I guess I have to go to London to see it. Way to go, NHL, you're doing a fantastic job marketing your sport. ;)

Feddie

09-26-07, 11:34 AM

kcalccal

09-26-07, 12:40 PM

Does anyone know if the free preview of Center Ice will offer the game from 9/29? I know it is on HDNET but Comcast doesn't offer that channel?

blitzen102

09-26-07, 12:45 PM

Does anyone know if the free preview of Center Ice will offer the game from 9/29? I know it is on HDNET but Comcast doesn't offer that channel?

It is showing up as being shown on www.NHL.TV Center Ice (the internet version of CI) so I'm assuming it will be on Regular (TV) CI. The Sunday game is not showing up since it is one Versus. HDNet's games are not exclusive.

eddieras

09-26-07, 12:46 PM

any word on HD, NHL Network or both feeds? i called DISH and was just told 'no info yet' on the other questions...

blitzen102

09-26-07, 12:52 PM

any word on HD, NHL Network or both feeds? i called DISH and was just told 'no info yet' on the other questions...

The NHL Network (Canada) has released their game schedule.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl_network/feature/?fid=10435

I have not seen one for the U.S. Version yet.

Drew_N

09-26-07, 12:52 PM

Hockeybuzz is reporting today that NHL Network could be up by Oct 1 for the US. They also have an early press release for Cox Cable.

No word on HD.

capsfan

09-26-07, 01:05 PM

Dish network has updated there website to allow you to order NHL CI. Early bird price is $149.00 if ordered before Oct. 9th. No word on if this means the NHL network is a go or not. They may have finalized a deal without NHL network so as not to lose CI completely. The inclusion of NHL network was apparently the final sticking point. At least it's now available and hopefully they follow through with the promise to have most games in HD.:)

RemyM

09-26-07, 01:55 PM

Does anyone know if the free preview of Center Ice will offer the game from 9/29? I know it is on HDNET but Comcast doesn't offer that channel?

Since the free preview starts on 9/29, and that's the only game that day, I think it's a safe bet that it includes that game.

jmj713

09-26-07, 01:58 PM

FlasHBurN

09-26-07, 02:14 PM

Any details or rumors on CI HD on DirecTV? Hopefully when they launch all those HD RSNs they'll unlock them for CI subscribers when HD games are shown, since there are no separate HD channels designated for CI.

Is that something they would be likely to do? Have they ever done that with any other sports programming?

blitzen102

09-26-07, 02:19 PM

Hockeybuzz is reporting today that NHL Network could be up by Oct 1 for the US. They also have an early press release for Cox Cable.

No word on HD.

Comcast has already announced that they will be adding the NHL Network to my system and others on October 1st.

blitzen102

09-26-07, 02:55 PM

Center Ice is now available to be ordered from Dish.

pkwjr

09-27-07, 10:11 AM

Great Center Ice video promoting HD!!!

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/center_ice_promo/

JackB

09-27-07, 10:28 AM

I could not get the demo to work. What does it say about out-of-market HD coverage?

Jack

Feddie

09-27-07, 10:29 AM

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/media/cihd.wmv

blitzen102

09-27-07, 10:30 AM

I could not get the demo to work. What does it say about out-of-market HD coverage?

Jack

What demo?

I still have not heard how many HD games there will be or which providers will carry them.

broadwayblue

09-27-07, 10:55 AM

Someone got this email response back from Melinda Witmer.

"I think another day will do it. Hang in."

-----Original Message-----
To: Witmer, Melinda
Sent: Thu Sep 27 10:10:42 2007
Subject: NHL Centre Ice

Dear Melinda,

Any word if NHL Center Ice will be available on Time Warner?
I have called Time Warner, and the CSR's have no definite word.
I received a call last night from a Time Warner CSR asking if I was still interested in purchasing NHL Center Ice. I said yes. She told me that they have been getting a lot calls for that product.
Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

XXXX

blitzen102

09-27-07, 12:37 PM

jefbal99

09-27-07, 01:05 PM

A Comcast CSR superviser told me this morning that Comcast WOULD have some NHL Center Ice games in HD this year.

I'll believe it when I see the first one.

That video/commercial is a good sign, though.

HD games have been available for the last two seasons, but your MSO needs to hook up to InDemand's "Game HD" channel. Last season it alternated between NBA LP HD and NHL CI HD.

blitzen102

09-27-07, 01:21 PM

HD games have been available for the last two seasons, but your MSO needs to hook up to InDemand's "Game HD" channel. Last season it alternated between NBA LP HD and NHL CI HD.

I know. Comcast in my area did NOT have the HD games last year.

jefbal99

09-27-07, 01:40 PM

I know. Comcast in my area did NOT have the HD games last year.

Mine either, I was told that my area may be getting it this year, but that looks to have fallen through. If we get the NHL Network and with whats on Versus, NBC, and my RSN, I should be able to get my fix. I won't re subscribe without the HD available.

jmj713

09-28-07, 11:58 AM

Just noticed something here: http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageIF.jsp?assetId=P1700159 While that's the schedule for last season, did it always have the "HD channel" column? This should be updated very very soon (the season starts tomorrow).

rvfanatic

09-28-07, 12:02 PM

eddieras

09-28-07, 12:07 PM

Still trying to get CI, let alone HD version.
Spoke to Brighthouse in Tampa, FL this morning, they are still negotiating with the NHL for the CI package. They said to call back next week.

Wow, the NHL is waiting till the very last second for this deal.

wow! you're with brighthouse?? i just found this which may be of interest

Bright House Networks has announced it is introducing four new high definition television channels Oct. 2 and will add the NHL Network to its Digital Sports Pack product in November.

The company is adding TBS HD, HGTV HD, The History Channel HD and the Food Network HD, bringing the total number of high definition channels it offers to 24. More channels are expected to be introduced to Central Florida customers in March.

The high definition channels are offered at no additional charge. Customers will also incur no extra charge for the Digital Sports Pack with the addition of NHL Network. The price will remain at $1.99 per month.

Bright House serves more than 850,000 customers in Central Florida.

blitzen102

09-28-07, 12:47 PM

If you are a Comcast subscriber and you've already signed up for CI, you now should have access to all the MLB Extra Innings games.

Well, I DO anyway.

jmj713

10-01-07, 12:26 PM

DirecTV updated the CI schedule but the HD Channel column is blank. What's the status of CIHD?

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageIF.jsp?assetId=1800012&page=Packages/NHLCenterIce/2007_10.htm

SirJW

10-01-07, 02:57 PM

The Center Ice Channels are now up and listed on channels 701-710 (MLB in Summer) on TWC in The South Bay in Los Angeles. Now let's see if the go live on Wed and if there are any games in HD. Was there any MLB in HD this summer on TWC?

tipton

10-01-07, 03:31 PM

still no HD schedule for any carrier and this is just ridiculous. FSN doesn't even have HD listings for any market that i could find on their website.

blitzen102

10-01-07, 03:59 PM

still no HD schedule for any carrier and this is just ridiculous. FSN doesn't even have HD listings for any market that i could find on their website.

FSN is horrible about keeping their HD schedules current.

agasthya

10-02-07, 09:40 AM

Does anyone know if we'll be getting the TSN and CBC games in HD this year or if its just RSN HD feeds (if we even get HD)...

lokar

10-02-07, 10:16 AM

I noticed on D* they have two channels reserved for tomorrow's Toronto/Ottawa game, hopefully one of these will be CBC HD but it's probably just a D* goofup.

blitzen102

10-02-07, 12:58 PM

I noticed on D* they have two channels reserved for tomorrow's Toronto/Ottawa game, hopefully one of these will be CBC HD but it's probably just a D* goofup.

It could also be home and away feeds.

eddieras

10-02-07, 01:18 PM

if its home and away its the first time i've seen that done with d* in the 10 years i've been with them

blitzen102

10-02-07, 01:27 PM

if its home and away its the first time i've seen that done with d* in the 10 years i've been with them

How many times have they done HD CI feeds?

sigma957

10-02-07, 02:22 PM

I noticed on D* they have two channels reserved for tomorrow's Toronto/Ottawa game, hopefully one of these will be CBC HD but it's probably just a D* goofup.Tomorrow's Ott/Tor game is on TSN (and TSNHD). CBC has Thursday's game. These are national broadcasts, so there is no home/away. CBC has not posted an HD schedule yet, but last year the early game (usually Toronto) generally was in HD, and all others were in widescreen SD.

tipton

10-02-07, 02:22 PM

It could also be home and away feeds.

its a national game with only one feed, so there is no home and away feed of the game. its on CBC nationally in canada. so it would seem that one of the versions is the HD version maybe.

eddieras

10-02-07, 03:58 PM

How many times have they done HD CI feeds?

i don't know for sure - i think about 3 - 4 a week, shown on the either 94 or 95

blitzen102

10-02-07, 04:01 PM

its a national game with only one feed, so there is no home and away feed of the game. its on CBC nationally in canada. so it would seem that one of the versions is the HD version maybe.

No French feed for RDS?

jmj713

10-02-07, 04:17 PM

I'm hoping we won't have to reply on 94/95 for CIHD. Instead they should remove blackouts on HD RSNs for CI subscribers.

kdrabik

10-02-07, 04:52 PM

I only see one feed for the game right now on my H20..

agasthya

10-02-07, 05:09 PM

E* has had a bunch of NHL HD channels uplinked for a while now. Between channels 9543 and 9558. Hopefully these will be made available tomorrow.

jmj713

10-02-07, 05:36 PM

Well either this is old info, or it's pretty bad news. Just received this email from DirecTV regarding CI HD:

Please be advised that you may get some NHL games in high definition (HD) on Ch. 90-99. For example, when Versus broadcasts a game in HD, we may carry the HD feed on Ch. 96. In addition, NHL Center Ice includes only selected games in HD.

sigma957

10-02-07, 06:00 PM

No French feed for RDS?RDS carries all Canadiens games, but only some Senators games. Speaking of RDS, however, tomorrow they are launching RDSHD, just in time for the Montreal/Carolina game. I have read that they plan to broadcast all 82 Canadiens games in HD (in French of course).

perilous

10-03-07, 08:33 AM

Yeah...its a shame, but it looks like we are in the same boat as last year re: CI in HD (so far!!). Have local cable to see Rangers, Islanders, Devils in HD (not available on D*TV). Would LOVE to at least get "Hockey Night in Canada" on Sat. night in HD -- PLEASE D*TV!!!

Oliwa

10-03-07, 10:22 AM

I called D* this morning and complained about them not carrying tonight's game on 95 or 97. I think it is ridiculous...there is nothing scheduled on 95 or 97 so carry VS-HD damnit!

lokar

10-03-07, 11:09 AM

Isn't VersusHD/Golf HD on channel 604 now as part of the new HD rollout? I think this problem at least is solved for this year.

JMartinko

10-03-07, 11:12 AM

Isn't VersusHD/Golf HD on channel 604 now as part of the new HD rollout? I think this problem at least is solved for this year.
Yes, VersusHD/Golf HD is on channel 604 on D*. Every HD game on Versus will be there this year.

jmj713

10-03-07, 02:56 PM

GutBomb

10-03-07, 03:10 PM

Yes, thankfully they'll showing two games tonight on Versus HD (604), Anaheim @ Detroit at 7, and Dallas @ Colorado at 9:30. However, what about the other two games tonight, Montreal @ Corolina at 7, and Ottawa @ Toronto at 7:30. Are these SD-only on Center Ice?

It seems as if the only feeds available tonight for the 2 games are the TSN feed for Ottowa @ Toronto and RDS (french TSN) for Montreal @ Carolina unless the Hurricanes' website is incomplete in it's broadcast information. Note: both of these games will be HD in Canada, but I don't remember CI ever providing an HD feed originating from Canada before. It doesn't look like the Hurricanes have any local coverage for this game at all.

agasthya

10-03-07, 07:03 PM

Good news and bad news.

All the NHL HD channels for E* are now available in the guide. Bad news, doesn't look like they'll be picking up any HD feeds from TSN this year. Don't know about HNIC yet.

dan_o_00

10-03-07, 07:59 PM

My Charter doesn't even have the package or pricing available yet.:mad:

sfenton

10-03-07, 08:08 PM

The RDS feed of the Canadiens/Hurricanes game is pretty crappy.

I am happy that I get to watch the game at all but the RDSHD logo they flash is almost like a slap in the face.

FUCCO

10-03-07, 08:16 PM

yeah u cant even radio any of the words on the screen. That picture is as bad as it gets.

roachxp

10-03-07, 08:34 PM

Looks like at least 4 or 5 HD games a night on E* just on the 61.5 sat too bad I can't get 129 that would be another 4 HD games a nite.

PS...Oh and looks like the away feed from the team taking on your home team is not blacked out this season, sweet now I can watch the Bruins in HD on the away feed.

musick

10-03-07, 09:21 PM

The RDS feed of the Canadiens/Hurricanes game is pretty crappy.

I had that game on via Directv and that feed is one of the worst I have ever seen for a game

the NHL should be leading the way with HD not lagging behind

this league under Bettman has zero leadership

ehren

10-03-07, 09:25 PM

the NHL HD channels on E* are mirrored on 61.5 and 129. you'll be getting the same # of games no matter what satellite you pick up.

WHY DOES NHL CI NOT HAVE CBC AND TSN COVERAGE IN HD ON THE U.S. VERSION!!! We get them in SD and not HD, stupid just stupid!!!!!!!! write to the NHL and get them to add the HD games from those 2 networks!

Petteri

10-03-07, 09:44 PM

RDS-HD via StarChoice wasn't horrible, but not great. A slightly less sharp picture than the Leafs v. Sens game on TSN-HD. I'm guessing the picture will be better when the game is in Montreal. Great game though!

musick

10-03-07, 10:19 PM

I had that game on via Directv and that feed is one of the worst I have ever seen for a game

the NHL should be leading the way with HD not lagging behind

this league under Bettman has zero leadership

RDS-HD via StarChoice wasn't horrible, but not great. A slightly less sharp picture than the Leafs v. Sens game on TSN-HD. I'm guessing the picture will be better when the game is in Montreal. Great game though!

just to be clear I was refering to the SD feed
I've seen plenty of hockey in my time and that feed was atrocious

jmj713

10-03-07, 10:53 PM

Why no CIHD love on DirecTV? :(

kcalccal

10-03-07, 11:42 PM

that game was unwatchable, especially compared to the Sens-Leafs game on the next channel. My 6th season of CI, worst feed ever for a game

Hughmc

10-04-07, 02:58 AM

grunzster

10-04-07, 07:24 AM

Agree with the last umpteen posts. Here it is 2007 and HD hockey is still sparse. When the full digital transition kicks in and there is much more HD penetration we damn well better have a full CI HD package and there really shouldn't be any NHL hockey broadcast in anything but HD.

And one comment in a previous post was there is no leadership under Bettman. There is leadership but the way and direction he wants it to go, not what the majority of die hard hockey fans who are the ones who really support the NHL want things to go. Bettman isn't listening to the fans at all, really he isn't. IMO he is a POS and needs to STFU or have someone tell him to F off.
WHAT???

You mean you don't like the new spandex jerseys?

Or the fact that most non-checking inline leages even let their players aget away with more than you can in the NHL now.

Or let's ad another rule every year, just for the sake of adding a rule? Ok I admit a FEW of the changes I do like?

Or that no matter how much he changes everything, the officiating still sucks!

perilous

10-04-07, 09:05 AM

Agree with all of the prior posts re: lack of HD on D*TV and Buttman references!! The NHL and HD "could" be a perfect marriage, but Buttman has his head so far up his a**, he's focusing on bringing hockey to Utah, Iowa and Mississippi for crissakes!!

I would have thought that with all of this new "capacity", D*TV would put more HD games in the CI package!! As posted earlier, at least get us the Canadian broadcasts in HD -- its tough watching HNIC in SD-Lite!!!

Come on D*TV -- wake up!!!

Pelican123

10-04-07, 02:15 PM

As posted earlier, at least get us the Canadian broadcasts in HD
Come on D*TV -- wake up!!!

I don't understand it. Why is it D* can give us the SD feeds from CBC and TSN but not the HD feeds?

jmj713

10-04-07, 02:49 PM

Any of tonight's games in HD tonight at all?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/scoreboard

Not seeing anything on 94/95. This feels like the dark ages with all this HD pouring in. :(

ehren

10-04-07, 03:01 PM

4 games in HD on E* tonight

Florida @ NY Rangers
NJ @ TB
Colorado @ Nashville
St Louis @ Phoenix

homestand

10-04-07, 06:06 PM

CBC has not posted an HD schedule yet, but last year the early game (usually Toronto) generally was in HD, and all others were in widescreen SD.

sigma957,

I think CBC has HD capabilities for East and West games now.

Hughmc

10-04-07, 06:53 PM

Here is what I have been looking for. I have a local Cable co. FIOS, that carries INDemand for CI. They have added a channel called GameHD and here is the schedule for OCt. It looks like I will be getting a game or two a day in HD besides what I get on HD net.

:D:D:D

http://www.indemand.com/sports/nhl/schedule/nhlScheduleHD.pdf

perilous

10-04-07, 07:16 PM

I don't understand it. Why is it D* can give us the SD feeds from CBC and TSN but not the HD feeds?

EXACTLY!!!

perilous

10-04-07, 07:18 PM

4 games in HD on E* tonight

Florida @ NY Rangers
NJ @ TB
Colorado @ Nashville
St Louis @ Phoenix

Shame on you D*TV, absolute shame!!!! What good is the free preview WITHOUT ANY HD GAMES!!??!! Freakin' amazing :eek:

ehren

10-04-07, 07:49 PM

Dish subscribers watch channel 548 HD and tell me if you see quick breakups when the camera goes into the corner of the zones, if you look at the plexiglass you can see the image pixelate. Not enough bandwidth I assume? Even in HD-Lite?

Dish also screwed up on Colorado/Nashville. No HD, they should have already knew that anyways.

musick

10-04-07, 08:00 PM

"Everyone acknowledges high-def's impact on our game presentation, making HDNet the perfect partner for INSIDE THE NHL,” said Ken Rosen, NHL group vice president, video production and programming. “Now, thanks in part to Dan Moriarty’s access and relationship with our players, fans will feel like they're ‘hanging’ with the NHL's brightest stars right in their own living room."
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=918161

obviously no one told whoever is running Directv's Center Ice package

hockeythug

10-04-07, 08:06 PM

4 games in HD on E* tonight

Florida @ NY Rangers
NJ @ TB
Colorado @ Nashville
St Louis @ Phoenix

:mad:

Is it that the HD RSN's arnt all online yet or is D* just being dicks?

I am watching the Toronto/Ottawa game and just got infuriated when I saw the "available in HD banner" go across the screen,

Hughmc

10-04-07, 08:09 PM

I have the HDnet coverage and INDemand Game HD of the Rangers vs panthers. The Indemand feed is Florida FSN. The HDnet PQ and of course DD 5.1 sound is far better than FSN Florida. The FSN feed has a LOT of artifacting and HDnet is flawless. I am guessing PQ on the Game HD channel will vary depending on PQ of the broadcaster.

rkunces

10-04-07, 08:51 PM

Comcast Sports Net Chicago HD blacked out and yet the game is not blacked out on the SD channel. Thanks D*

buckybadger

10-04-07, 09:00 PM

Comcast Sports Net Chicago HD blacked out and yet the game is not blacked out on the SD channel. Thanks D*

yep, very disappointing. i have both the sports pack with all the rsn's as well as center ice. getting rsn's in hd loses a lot of its appeal if every hd game is blacked out, especially when i know the sd version is not blacked out.

i am holding out hope that this is an issue with comcast versus d* and that we'll get the hd version when fsn stations or nesn are involved.

hockeythug

10-04-07, 09:32 PM

yep, very disappointing. i have both the sports pack with all the rsn's as well as center ice. getting rsn's in hd loses a lot of its appeal if every hd game is blacked out, especially when i know the sd version is not blacked out.

Almost all of the RSN's are not available in HD yet.

ehren

10-04-07, 09:51 PM

CSN Chicago isn't even showing the game in HD anyways.

buckybadger

10-04-07, 09:55 PM

Almost all of the RSN's are not available in HD yet.

five are, including three that broadcast nhl games. the blackhawks were blacked out on hd tonight. tomorrow, both the bruins and capitals play on rsn's that have been lit up in hd nationally. i would guess comcast washington will black out the caps high def game. hopefully, nesn will not black out the bruins.

buckybadger

10-04-07, 10:07 PM

CSN Chicago isn't even showing the game in HD anyways.

thanks. never even considered the possibility that opening night wouldn't be in hd.

we'll see what happens tomorrow with the bruins.

ehren

10-04-07, 11:00 PM

Bruins @ Stars on E* in HD tomorrow channel 553 from FSN-SW HD

teevman

10-04-07, 11:55 PM

for anyone who's interested here is a link to cbc's hockey schedule which includes both hd and sd, http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=SubseasonSchedule&network=CBC&month=All

perilous

10-05-07, 08:09 AM

NOT on D*TV though!!! Freakin' amazing!! It appears all the new bandwith is going to SmithsonianHD and other channels no one has ever heard of instead of HD hockey on CI!!!

jmj713

10-05-07, 08:48 AM

I have Center Ice and the Sports Pack and CSN Chicago HD was blacked out for the Chicago-Minnesota game. How lame! While the SD feed via Center Ice was okay for SD, even if the game wasn't actual HD on CSN, it would still be upconverted SD.

Let's see if DirecTV gets their act together with NESN. If not, time to make some calls.

joebbaseball

10-05-07, 09:37 AM

Noticed that too. I know a lot of time D* gets blame for stuff that is out of their control, but a lot of times it is their fault. So, who is to blame for the deal last night? How is it possible that the SD version is not blacked out while the HD is? This seems like a D* screw up to me. Not to mention D* screwed up CBC's HNIC feed by putting it up on two seperate channels.
Joe

roachxp

10-05-07, 10:26 AM

Still looks like E* is working on their CI HD listings still, has they are changing everyday, I like how we can get home and away feeds in HD of the same game coming up.

Let hope E* carries this over to his NBA League Pass HD also :)

jmj713

10-05-07, 02:29 PM

As per this thread: http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1191930&postcount=115

Looks like we're actually getting CIHD on DirecTV!

buckybadger

10-05-07, 04:10 PM

As per this thread: http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1191930&postcount=115

Looks like we're actually getting CIHD on DirecTV!

that's good news. thanks for the heads up.

jmj713

10-05-07, 04:52 PM

Just received a weird response from DirecTV regarding last night's snafu:

Thanks for writing. I will be happy to assist you with this. I’m very sorry to hear about the problems you’ve experienced watching the game in High Definition (HD).

Normally, the Blackhawks vs Wild SD game on CSN Chicago would have been blacked out to you, because it was an out-of-market game on a Regional Sports Net, but during the NHL CENTER ICE free preview, we are allowed to show it. Unfortunately, the HD feed was not covered by the free preview.

DIRECTV did feature three games in HD last night, the Panthers vs Rangers on channel 96 or 79 (based on zip code), the Avalanche vs Predators on channel 97, and the Blues vs Coyotes on channel 96.

I know this can be frustrating, and that blackout rules can be somewhat confusing, but I hope you understand that sports blackouts and game availability are controlled by the leagues, sports associations, and networks that purchase the rights to broadcast individual games. To protect their rights, we must enforce the blackouts and availability mandated by them.

Is this not an outright lie? There were no HD hockey games last night for those that had HDNet blacked out and had to watch via MSG.

surick

10-05-07, 05:44 PM

The only game I saw last night in HD was on HDNet. That was it. The other two games I could only find the SD feed. So maybe it was a lie.

hockeythug

10-05-07, 05:47 PM

Just received a weird response from DirecTV regarding last night's snafu:

Is this not an outright lie? There were no HD hockey games last night for those that had HDNet blacked out and had to watch via MSG.

Yeah, the only game was the one on HDNet. :mad:

lokar

10-05-07, 05:52 PM

hockeythug

10-05-07, 06:05 PM

if D* would start providing CBC and TSN HD, I might have to give up complaining altogether.

Yeah, same here.

5w30

10-05-07, 06:12 PM

Definitely a lie, I checked there a few times throughout the evening. I even had to hunt to find my Devils in SD since D* listed channel 766 as Upcoming: Islanders v. Sabres all night. It really had the Devils though. Hopefully tonight will usher in the new HD era, if D* would start providing CBC and TSN HD, I might have to give up complaining altogether.

Still not going to see it in HD on a dish.
Home team is Sabres - MSG Buffalo [HD for cable only]
Away team is Islanders - Fox Sports NY [HD for cable only]
Next question?

hockeythug

10-05-07, 08:36 PM

Let's see if DirecTV gets their act together with NESN. If not, time to make some calls.

Nope, I am getting the "Program is not available in you area." message on 623 NESNHD. :mad:

rcraigiii

10-05-07, 09:33 PM

Hughmc

10-05-07, 09:38 PM

These blackouts are still BS IMO, especially in this day and age. I have NO hockey teams in Oregon and even I have suffered from blackouts before. BS!

buckybadger

10-05-07, 10:43 PM

Sorry if this has been covered, but I'm still confused. I subscribe to NHL CI, the Sports Pack, and also the HD package (and I live in the Orlando area). When I turn to channel 623 right now, it says "Program is not available in you area. (727)."

Is this correct or is this a D* problem? By NHL rules should I be blacked out?

Thanks,
Rob

you weren't blacked out. d* used the home team feed for this game. i assume that because they don't as yet have an hd version of channel 643 (which the game was on), that is why we only received an sd feed.

hockeythug

10-06-07, 01:00 AM

From DBS Forum:

First one out of the box: Channel 775-1 Bruins/Coyotes game in HD tomorrow night, 10:00 EST.
Post (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1193402&postcount=166)

Its in the guide all ready to go.:D

Along with Anaheim Ducks vs. Pittsburgh Penguins tomorrow on HDNet we finally get some HD gameS.

jmj713

10-06-07, 01:02 AM

I hope many HD RSNs come online next week so we get all those CI HD subchannels working! :)

FlasHBurN

10-06-07, 06:52 AM

From DBS Forum:

Post (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1193402&postcount=166)

Its in the guide all ready to go.:D

Along with Anaheim Ducks vs. Pittsburgh Penguins tomorrow on HDNet we finally get some HD gameS.

There better be more than one game in HD tonight. One out of fifteen games is no more acceptable than zero out of fifteen.

RoyGBiv

10-06-07, 10:29 AM

There better be more than one game in HD tonight. One out of fifteen games is no more acceptable than zero out of fifteen.

and no better than they were doing last year by putting games on channel 95.

SMK

FlasHBurN

10-06-07, 10:32 AM

and no better than they were doing last year by putting games on channel 95.

SMK

Exactly. I really hope D* gets their act together in the next week or so.

teevman

10-06-07, 02:44 PM

wonder why no hd hockey on ch 94 like last yr, i mean even with mpeg4 the mlb playoffs are in hd on ch. 95 as well as tbshd (or is tbs hd not up on dtv yet?)

GutBomb

10-06-07, 03:27 PM

Tbs hd is only carried on DirecTV mpeg 4 systems. There are still many mpeg 2 users that didn't want to miss baseball.

ehren

10-06-07, 07:33 PM

E* CI HD tonight

Carolina @ Washington CSN-MA HD looks good
Anaheim @ Pittsburgh FSN-Pit, also on HDNet

Hughmc

10-06-07, 07:52 PM

WTF? No hockey on HDnet? There is NO FING way I should be blacked out. I am in Oregon. Now what is the excuse?

ehren

10-06-07, 08:49 PM

when does Directv ever NOT screw up?

dan_o_00

10-07-07, 08:42 PM

Eh, Charter still hasn't come to terms yet on Center Ice. :(

eddieras

10-07-07, 08:56 PM

when does Directv ever NOT screw up?

did you see the toronto v montreal game? directv cut off the feed at the end of the game.... trouble was, it was TIED 3-3 at the time! 10' later they put it back on. my dvr got some nice music and the Directv splash screen instead of some OT action!

rkunces

10-07-07, 09:16 PM

Sharks/Avs game not in HD tonight either on D*. The HD channel lists an xm radio station instead.

agasthya

10-07-07, 09:20 PM

Sharks/Avs game not in HD tonight either on D*. The HD channel lists an xm radio station instead.

We're getting the Altitude HD feed on E*.

JMartinko

10-07-07, 10:29 PM

Sharks/Avs game not in HD tonight either on D*. The HD channel lists an xm radio station instead.

It was available in HD on D* on the normal spot beam for the Altitude coverage area. Altitude has been in HD on the spot beam for a year or so now on D* and is on the list of RSN's to be made national this fall, but for the time being it is only HD locally. It is obvious that D* has not yet set up the HD channels (764-1 etc.) with the lone exception of the one game last night. I have no clue how soon D* will get the HD portion of NHLCI working properly, given the loss of signal for a time in the OT of the Toronto game, it is pretty obvious they haven't even worked out the kinks on the SD side yet. My guess is they are a bit overwhelmed or underprepared (your choice) for all of the new channels they are adding, the NFLST and the NHLCI and the NHLCI is apparently a low priority. I would suggest that you continue to flood them with calls and emails about specific issues to make sure they get the message that we are waiting for things to get set up right. I sent them 5 emails in the last two days over specific issues and although I get the canned reply back, I have no doubt they know people are upset. Ultimately I am pretty sure they will get it right, but it may take some 'prompting' from their subscribers to make sure. Just my own $0,02, YMMV.

eddieras

10-07-07, 10:35 PM

I have no clue how soon D* will get the HD portion of NHLCI working properly, given the loss of signal for a time in the OT of the Toronto game, it is pretty obvious they haven't even worked out the kinks on the SD side yet. My guess is they are a bit overwhelmed or underprepared (your choice) for all of the new channels they are adding, the NFLST and the NHLCI and the NHLCI is apparently a low priority.

seeing how this "loss of signal" was right after the end of the game, i don't think it was a situation of working out the kinks. too coincidental for it to be anything other than incorrectly cutting the feed, believing the game was over. very frustrating that they mess this up as frequently as they do.

JMartinko

10-07-07, 10:42 PM

seeing how this "loss of signal" was right after the end of the game, i don't think it was a situation of working out the kinks. too coincidental for it to be anything other than incorrectly cutting the feed, believing the game was over. very frustrating that they mess this up as frequently as they do.

By "working out the kinks" what I meant was they obviously didn't have enough staff available to monitor the games and were using the computers and time to turn things on and off. I agree this is unacceptable and they need to be called on it. With enough complaints I would hope they would get their act together. Last year on the CBC games they usually kept the early and late games on the same channel, so that this was never an issue, but some 'Einstein' this year didn't do that. My guess is they are swamped with the new channels, NFLST and the NHLCI start up and just don't have enough people to handle it all. That does not give them a 'free pass', it means they were not prepared for all of this at the same time. I do think they will work it out with time, but then I am an optimist at times too, so what do I know?? In the meantime, slam them with calls and letters to let them know it does matter to subscribers.

eddieras

10-07-07, 10:48 PM

In the meantime, slam them with calls and letters to let them know it does matter to subscribers.

agreed!

eddieras

10-08-07, 08:48 AM

NHL Net nabs U.S. Carriage

NHL Network, currently on Canadian TV, skates south this month after completing distribution deals with U.S. cable operators Comcast, Cox Communications, Cablevision and Time Warner, and with satellite operators DirecTV and Dish Network. In total, the network will pass about 72 million U.S. homes.

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/current/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003654871

SirJW

10-08-07, 10:55 PM

C'mon people, keep us updated. Which games are you getting in HD each day and what provider do you have?

Still no CI-HD for us in the South Bay in LA on TWC.

Pelican123

10-09-07, 12:47 AM

Why is it that E* can provide CI subscribers with both feeds but D* won't.
:mad:
Guess it's time to send another email to D* :(

lokar

10-09-07, 11:04 AM

C'mon people, keep us updated. Which games are you getting in HD each day and what provider do you have?

<crickets chirping for D* subscribers> So far D* has shown Bos/Ari Saturday night as the only HD game through the package. Not very impressive, to say the least. They aren't even giving us games from FSNs like last year.

roachxp

10-09-07, 01:07 PM

Why is it that E* can provide CI subscribers with both feeds but D* won't.
:mad:
Guess it's time to send another email to D* :(

And on top of that they are offering the E* subs both home and away feeds in HD for the 10/10 for the Floridia vs Tampa Bay game. The E* scheduel is still not updated 100% has

10/10 E* CI HD
Floridia vs Tampa Bay (FLA)
Floridia vs Tampa Bay (TB)
Edmonton vs Minnesota (MIN)
Flames vs Red Wings (FSNDet) showing in guide not listed on site

Atlanta Thrashers vs. Buffalo Sabres (Hdnet)

azdevil

10-09-07, 01:08 PM

HD NHL/CI on E* this week:

Tue Oct 9, 2007
Hurricanes Maple Leafs 7:00 PM ET VERSUS (HD)

Wed Oct 10, 2007
Rangers Islanders 7:00 PM ET VERSUS (HD)
Canadiens Penguins 7:30 PM ET FSP (HD)
Panthers Lightning 7:30 PM ET FSF (HD)
Oilers Wild 8:00 PM ET FSN (HD)
Predators Blues 8:30 PM ET FSMW (HD)

Thu Oct 11, 2007
Thrashers Sabres 7:00 PM ET HD NET
Devils Panthers 7:30 PM ET FSF (HD)

Fri Oct 12, 2007
Avalanche Blues 8:30 PM ET ALT (HD) FSMW (HD)
Blackhawks Red Wings 7:30 PM ET FSD (HD)

TonySCV

10-09-07, 02:01 PM

HD NHL/CI on E* this week:

Tue Oct 9, 2007
Hurricanes Maple Leafs 7:00 PM ET VERSUS (HD)

Wed Oct 10, 2007
Rangers Islanders 7:00 PM ET VERSUS (HD)
Canadiens Penguins 7:30 PM ET FSP (HD)
Panthers Lightning 7:30 PM ET FSF (HD)
Flames Red Wings 7:30 PM ET FSD (HD) (per nhl.com. don't see it on E* guide yet)
Oilers Wild 8:00 PM ET FSN (HD)
Predators Blues 8:30 PM ET FSMW (HD)

Thu Oct 11, 2007
Thrashers Sabres 7:00 PM ET HD NET
Devils Panthers 7:30 PM ET FSF (HD)

Fri Oct 12, 2007
Blackhawks Red Wings 7:30 PM ET FSD (HD) (per nhl.com. don't see it on E* guide yet)
Avalanche Blues 8:30 PM ET ALT (HD) FSMW (HD)

I'm assuming that once DirecTV launches the rest of their RSN HD feeds nationwide that the schedules will finally align. Until then, I would expect that the only HD games DirecTV subs will get nationwide are the ones available on the national RSN's already launched, Versus HD and HDNet.

- T

kevin j

10-09-07, 02:25 PM

No CI in HD on Comcast here in the Chicago area[i've had it for the last 3 years and it's been this way every year].

roachxp

10-09-07, 02:38 PM

And NHL Network will only be HD on E* and no SD counterpart for subs, if you want it you will need mpeg4 receiver and HD package. Launch date is between 10/10 - 10/17 on E* (blackout rules still apply)

Sweet

lokar

10-09-07, 02:42 PM

eddieras

10-09-07, 02:42 PM

anyone have any word on what sat NHL Network will be on with Dish? i'm scheduled for an install thurs but i can't get sat 129

Oliwa

10-09-07, 02:58 PM

Are any of you getting any HD games on any of the CI channels? I can get VS-HD and channels 94, 95, and 97. I was just wondering if D* is broadcasting HD on the CI channels and I'm not seeing it.

azdevil

10-09-07, 04:30 PM

I emailed D* about the disparity in HD games between D* and E* and got this response:

Thanks for writing us back about DIRECTV programming. I understand your concerns about receiving NHL Center Ice games in HD. We expect to have some HD games added to the NHL Center Ice schedule beginning in mid October but the schedule is still being determined. We’ll be updating the NHL Center Ice schedule as soon as we have more information so check back with us at directv.com/nhl.

"mid-October" hopefully will be real soon.

Too bad they cant tell us by today, when CI freeview expires and I have to commit to E*. I'm anxious to see what D* produces next week. If they get FSNY HD and MSG HD, I may be paying for CI twice this year....and a $199 HD receiver....and ???