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BananaJaK
08-19-07, 08:01 PM
I have a P6000 that is just out of warranty. I rarely use it (2 movies a month?) and never abuse it. Today while watching a movie a noticed instead of bass there was this whirring sound. It only happens when the sub is actually playing. The sound also happens when I plug and unplug the rca cable from the back. Any help or suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.

buddholly
08-19-07, 08:05 PM
I don't really know but I have two ASP-6000's and they are both broken. One has a shot amp, the other won't even power up. I've heard lots of problems about these woofers and personally will never buy Athena.

Bluenose99
08-31-07, 11:01 PM
Sorry to hear of your problems wuth the P6000. I'm a huge fan of this sub but mine also died a few weeks ago. When plugged in it just moans. I'm now using my spare Energy 8.3 which is a great little performer but doesn't come close to the impact my Athena provided. I really would to get it fixed but I'm afraid it may be a defective design that will continue to be a problem. I've written to Athena (even included your links as an example of a widespead problem) but have received no response....not impresed!!! I wonder if it's possible to fit in a new amp from Parts Express or Creative Sound since the woofer and box are in fine shape. I would have to recut the opening. Be nice if there was a way to get all those great sounding P6000's back in action. I've made contact with a local Athena guy and he said to bring it in. If he has any answers beside a new amp implant I'll pass them on.

BananaJaK
09-01-07, 12:38 AM
Alright cool man let us know if you hear anything thanks!

JDF1384
09-01-07, 01:14 AM
A lot of folks are having problems with the P6000. I'm guessing the amps are faulty, maybe you can get a replacement amp somewhere.

Jeff-

Sax
09-01-07, 08:29 AM
I know the pain, I got the P6000 march of 06, and I used it about two times a month for movies. My amp went out, just bought a new one off ebay, it was not a Athena sub. I bought another brand of sub, hope I get more then 70 hours out of this one. Was told by Athena it would cost between $200 to $400 to rebuild the amp, forget that.

Bluenose99
10-17-07, 01:47 PM
To all you guys using your Athena subs for doorstops or coffee tables I did a little investigating. My local Athena guy said that there was a bad run of FET's on not only the Athena but also Energy subs that require replacing the whole circuit board. He did supply me with a parts number
Z5AM//600138 -PCB Main Board AS-P6000 N/A $203.02
which shows up on a number of parts sites when I searched for it.
I'm looking at 200-300 for a repair. Athena should really repair all those non working subs under an "extended" warranty program. Velodyne for one has increased it's warranty on sub electronics to 3 years to match SVS so the the prescedence is out there. I asked Chris if an "extended" warranty would be available on the repacement amp as a show of confidence and am waiting for a reply.

I did set up a thread on "Replacement Amps" on the DIY Speaker Forum. Dale "Riverwolf" was very helpful in saying a non Athena amp might not have possible custom equalization built in like the Athena amp but might work fine. Suggested replacement amps to look at would the
Kiega made Dayton SA-240 which has a closed back for an external placement and the
PE Bash 300 from Parts Express and the
Rhytmik A-350 amps which have some modifications on the Kiega platform.
In the meantime we should keep bugging Athena to see if they will back their product.

outcast_p
10-19-07, 05:46 PM
You can put me on the list with broken amp.

I also sent an email to Athena with no reply, hopefully they will back it if you knew they sent them out with a defective part.

I just love how it was working before i moved. I put it back int he factory box, using the factory packing, placed it in my car, moved it to the new house, took it out and got nothing after hooking it back up.

83trekker
10-20-07, 12:01 PM
Add me to the list mine broke a couple months after warrenty pissed me right off, no response at all from Athena, just sounds like distorition comming out of the sub weather its hooked to the amp or not.

Lets make a stand let me know o anything I can do to help, im canadian and payed like 700 bucks for this piece of crap. Ya I know i got ripped off by the future shop.

nm4710
10-20-07, 02:12 PM
They're already losing sales because of this...reading this thread steered me away from the P6000 despite the great price that aa was offering.

I hope Athena steps up to the plate and takes care of you guys. Nothing worse than a company that doesn't stand behind its product.

Jakeman02
10-21-07, 04:55 PM
They're already losing sales because of this...reading this thread steered me away from the P6000 despite the great price that aa was offering.

I hope Athena steps up to the plate and takes care of you guys. Nothing worse than a company that doesn't stand behind its product.

I don't think they are worried about sales at this point. Since Athena was bought out all the Athena lines have been discontinued and the only thing available now retail is what's left in stock. Not even thinking about the fact that the 4000 and 6000 are older models that have been updated.

Their CS was very receptive and helpful with a problem I had a few years back. I got a response within minutes and they went above what I expected to help. I'm guessing since the buy out they are in limbo now, although don't quote me on this, it's an opinion. I've got an AS-P400 and AS-P4000 that are still going strong. If your looking for a sub at the 6000s price point I'd check out the Bic H-100 or one of the lower priced offerings from ED, both are excellent products and the companies are still in business.

83trekker
10-21-07, 11:09 PM
I don't think they are worried about sales at this point. Since Athena was bought out all the Athena lines have been discontinued and the only thing available now retail is what's left in stock. Not even thinking about the fact that the 4000 and 6000 are older models that have been updated.

Their CS was very receptive and helpful with a problem I had a few years back. I got a response within minutes and they went above what I expected to help. I'm guessing since the buy out they are in limbo now, although don't quote me on this, it's an opinion. I've got an AS-P400 and AS-P4000 that are still going strong. If your looking for a sub at the 6000s price point I'd check out the Bic H-100 or one of the lower priced offerings from ED, both are excellent products and the companies are still in business.



who bought them out? Thats not too encourging to know :(

Jakeman02
10-22-07, 08:04 PM
klipsch

http://www.audioholics.com/news/press-releases/klipsch-acquires-energy-mirage-athena-speaker-brands

83trekker
10-24-07, 04:41 PM
Anybody have any new news? I have sent messages out to Athena again and to Klipsch and again not even a response at all, very dissapointing.

83trekker
11-05-07, 11:48 PM
Its official over a year trying to get an anwser and nothing. Word too everybody who reads this, DO NOT BUT ANYTHING ATHENA, they have no support and there product is poorly made.

Jakeman02
11-06-07, 04:25 AM
Its official over a year trying to get an anwser and nothing. Word too everybody who reads this, DO NOT BUT ANYTHING ATHENA, they have no support and there product is poorly made.

I feel your frustration and they should at least respond to the problems with the 6000.

I'm going to have to totally disagree on their products being poorly made. Other than the 6000s amp problems Athena made some great speakers at their price point. I've still got the AS-P4000 sub and love it, also gave the older model 400 sub to a friend when I upgraded and it's still going strong. Both are great performers at their price point. Their Audition Series, Macra system and Point5 series speakers got rave reviews and after comparing them to every other budget speaker I could find I'm using the auditions and point 5s on 2 of my systems.

I'll agree with the no support anymore but other than the 6000s amp problems they made some of the best quality/performance budget speakers out there. If for some reason I had a need to buy speakers on a budget again I'd go with the audition series in a heartbeat. Especially at their closeout prices now.

Bluenose99
11-06-07, 10:08 AM
Can't agree more with the quality of the Athena line. The other day I was watching a film with my Point 5 system and it wasn't till I was halfway through that I realized I hadn't turned on my Velodyne sub. Just shows how good a system it is. The 6000 is a very frustrating aberation.

83trekker
11-06-07, 12:00 PM
http://www.hozt.com/reviews/B0009VCIS2/Subwoofers/


Theres lots of us out there i keep finding with the same problem. Even athena telling me to piss off in a reply would have been better then nothing at all. I dont care how good there other speakers are, for how I am getting treated I will not give them my money ever again.

Jakeman02
11-06-07, 05:05 PM
http://www.hozt.com/reviews/B0009VCIS2/Subwoofers/


Theres lots of us out there i keep finding with the same problem. Even athena telling me to piss off in a reply would have been better then nothing at all. I dont care how good there other speakers are, for how I am getting treated I will not give them my money ever again.

I agree with you totally, they should respond and can understand your frustration, but that has nothing to do with your comment in post 15 telling others not to buy anything athena, they are crap, which is just not true.

That's the only part I was disagreeing with. I totally agree that you and others should at least get a response on the 6000 and amp issues with it, but since most if not all are out of warranty combined with changes with the company, who knows if there is even anyone at athena anymore, I don't see it happening.

outcast_p
11-09-07, 11:48 AM
Still no word back from them. I wonder if their service center has any contact info at the company.

edwardsk2003
12-17-07, 10:42 AM
Mine just went out also..... i'm guessing it's my sub...
Any luck w/ this?????

83trekker
12-28-07, 01:48 PM
nothing from my end!

newtvowner
12-28-07, 02:44 PM
Sorry to hear about everyone's sub problems.

I also have an athena system, F2.2 in front, and B series bookshelfs in rear, with WS-60 center. I have them connected to a pioneer elite reciever. I am happy with the speakers so far, had them about a year. The athenas sound much better than my yamaha HTIB I had previously.

I was going to purchase p6000 recently to compliment the sytem, as I was happy with other athen speakes, and had heard good things about the sound of the p6000. But they do not sell them anymore, only the p4100. I have read of many people like yourselves having problems with their subs, and have seen tons of refurb athena subs for sale. It is usually the amp people are having problems with.

I am happy with with my athena speakers, but with problematic subs, buying out by another company, discontinuation of most of line up, and what sounds like a lack of customer support by many, i decided it might be best to hold up on buying any athena products for while.


So I opted to get the A2-300 from eD. It is around the same price, I paid $350, but they have a 10" model starts at $300. Much better quality build and sound than other subs at same price level. I use it for 90% home theatre and gaming. I am very happy with it so far.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...roducts_id=407

Just a thought, in case you end up replacing your sub.

The build quality of their products is very good, as well as sound. You get a quality product for what you would pay for a better known brand name at same price. They also have excellent customer service(have answered all my emails promptly) as they are still a small company. I have also read people in this forum that had a problem with an eD sub, and eD was happy to correct the problem very quickly.

The only down side, is the speakers are built to order, so it takes a couple weeks to recieve them. They do however keep you updated as to what part of production your speakers are in at any given moment.

Hopefully athena/klipsch/? will step up and fix the subs, so none of you will have to buy a new one. Best of luck.

edwardsk2003
02-11-08, 09:58 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know that the certified repair shop for texas (below) fixed mine for free (it was under warranty). They were extremely knowledgable, friendly, and quick on the job. They are shipping it back to me now (can't wait to have it back).

FREEMAN TUELL SPEAKER REPAIR
7911 Ferguson Rd.
Dallas , TEXAS 75228
Contact: David or Allen
Tel: 214-324-1132
Fax: 214-321-5695

Jakeman02
02-11-08, 10:50 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know that the certified repair shop for texas (below) fixed mine for free (it was under warranty). They were extremely knowledgable, friendly, and quick on the job. They are shipping it back to me now (can't wait to have it back).

FREEMAN TUELL SPEAKER REPAIR
7911 Ferguson Rd.
Dallas , TEXAS 75228
Contact: David or Allen
Tel: 214-324-1132
Fax: 214-321-5695

Congrats and thanks for posting, seems a lot of people are having problems finding info on warranty service, that contact should help.

I hope they corrected the amp defect in this one, it really is a great sounding sub - all the amp problems.

edwardsk2003
02-13-08, 03:47 PM
The guys as freeman said they thought there was 'a batch' of subs that went out that had problems... they said they replace the chips, the amps, and something else... and haven't had one returned... anyway - it's slightly depressing during some movies not having the sub... Can't wait for it to arrive...

colin.p
02-13-08, 09:54 PM
I have had my P6000 since January 2006 and so far no problems (knock on head). If it ever goes, maybe I can talk the "boss" into an SVS or HSU. (no, not likely).
But for the $350 I paid for it and the $40, 9 year xtended warranty, still not too bad of a sub. If I get another year out of it, I will be ready for an upgrade.:rolleyes:

Bluenose99
03-11-08, 11:46 AM
Just a note to those with dead Athena 6000's that I brought mine back to life. Since I still had a doorstop with a nice box and a 12 inch woofer I decided to at least make use of it. I got a second hand subwoofer plate amp on E-Bay for around $50.00. I opened up the Athena and unclipped the old amp from the speaker and rather than drill some new holes ran new wires from the speaker out through the front port and then put the sub back together. I then attached the wires to the now "external" sub amp, attached my sub-out line to the amp, fired it up, ran some level tones and now have a working Athena 6000. The plate amp has 100-150 watts of power and so far sounds great. I placed the external plate amp which has a sealed back next to the Athena. May not be pretty but sure beats paying over $200 for repairs out of warranty.

froggyliver
03-12-08, 12:35 AM
I too have a broken amp on this sub.... 2nd time too

mayhem13
03-12-08, 01:23 AM
The 500w bash amp at PE should make a nice replacement for the Athena's as would the 500w from Oaudio. With a little work you should be able to retro these into the cabinets. A new rear baffle of 3/4 MDF routed to accept the repl amp then glued and screwed to the old baffle after the amp removed should do the trick. You could cover the repl baffle with Black Vinyl or Bed liner paint. These subs are definately worth saving. The driver used in these sounded incredible and played really low. The replacement amps listed are very reliable and should perform as well as the original amps without blowing up.

tvmike
03-26-08, 06:28 PM
I purchased a Athena AS-P6000 from AA back on 10/26/2006. I have been having problems with it and Athena has not responded to my inquiries. Has anyone actually heard from Athena on these issues. Or gotten feedback from a tech/service. Mine keeps buzzing intermittently. Even if the receiver is on or off. In the auto position in the middle of the night I have been woken up several times because the thing is buzzing so loud I hear it on the second floor. Now I leave it off. But even when using during a movie it will still happen.

naiLS1
04-17-08, 08:03 PM
The 500w bash amp at PE should make a nice replacement for the Athena's as would the 500w from Oaudio. With a little work you should be able to retro these into the cabinets. A new rear baffle of 3/4 MDF routed to accept the repl amp then glued and screwed to the old baffle after the amp removed should do the trick. You could cover the repl baffle with Black Vinyl or Bed liner paint. These subs are definately worth saving. The driver used in these sounded incredible and played really low. The replacement amps listed are very reliable and should perform as well as the original amps without blowing up.

Would the 300w bash amp at PE do a good job? I don't want to shell out more than $150 on a new amp for my 6000.

naiLS1
04-21-08, 11:00 AM
I ordered the bash 300w to replace my amp. I'll you guys know how it goes.

Bluenose99
04-21-08, 04:19 PM
Good luck with your rebuild. My "Audio Specialiste" external amp-AS 6000 combination is going strong. The other day while watching "War of the Worlds" my brother who has a top end Velodyne sub commented on the great bass levels coming from the Athena. Glad I kept it.

naiLS1
05-03-08, 07:01 PM
Thanks for the good luck wish!

I got it working again. My install actually looks really clean--- like it came that way from the factory. Anyway, I haven't had a chance to really test it or even set it up. I'm just using it right now while playing PS3 and it sounds decent. I'd say the power is about the same as the original amp.

Bluenose99
05-08-08, 01:07 PM
Most impressed that you installed the Bash amp. Lets see how these rebuilds hold up. I figured it would cost at least 3 times the cost of the Bash amp or equivalent to purchase a new 12'" that might be noticeably superior to the Athena so it seems a good idea to just hook up a new amp.

naiLS1
05-09-08, 08:32 PM
Most impressed that you installed the Bash amp. Lets see how these rebuilds hold up. I figured it would cost at least 3 times the cost of the Bash amp or equivalent to purchase a new 12'" that might be noticeably superior to the Athena so it seems a good idea to just hook up a new amp.

I was thinking the same thing. I didn't want to spend a mint to replace the entire thing so I figured a new amp would do. It sounds just as good so hopefully this amp lasts!

Jakeman02
05-09-08, 09:05 PM
I was thinking the same thing. I didn't want to spend a mint to replace the entire thing so I figured a new amp would do. It sounds just as good so hopefully this amp lasts!

You shouldn't have any problems with the amp. Many of the amps that came on the 6000 took a dive, a design flaw, manuf defect, etc anyway unlike Athena, PE has incredible customer service if for some unlikely reason you do have an issue.

naiLS1
05-10-08, 10:30 AM
You shouldn't have any problems with the amp. Many of the amps that came on the 6000 took a dive, a design flaw, manuf defect, etc anyway unlike Athena, PE has incredible customer service if for some unlikely reason you do have an issue.

I normally wouldn't be worried about the new amp, but in this case it's the same brand name as the original p6000 amp -- BASH.

I'm just hoping they made some junk for Athena and the rest of their stuff is worthy.

Jakeman02
05-10-08, 05:03 PM
Bash makes amps for many companies, ID and Retail, they are one of the leading sellers of amps. It was just a bad line or model that wound up in the 6000, they are quality amps.

naiLS1
05-11-08, 09:50 PM
Bash makes amps for many companies, ID and Retail, they are one of the leading sellers of amps. It was just a bad line or model that wound up in the 6000, they are quality amps.

I'm not really up on that stuff so that's good to hear. It just sucks that they (Athena AND Bash) didn't back the product to begin with.

DesmoBob
05-19-08, 04:21 PM
I ordered the bash 300w to replace my amp. I'll you guys know how it goes.
My 6000 amp died recently, I too now have a new coffee table compliments of Athena.

naiLS1 - I'm also thinking of getting that Bash 300w, is that the one from PE? Just wondering, does the new amp have terminals on the PC board to connect to the red/green LED indicator light?

NateX.0
05-20-08, 09:53 AM
My P6000 also died recently. We watched a movie with it one night, and when I woke up the next day it was exhibiting the buzzing sound when powered up. Mine is also just out of the 12-month amplifier warranty as well. :mad:

I contacted Athena support from their web form and requested a part # and order process to replace the amp. I received this reply the next business day:

We do have those amps in stock. Cost is $194.36 ea under part # 5AMASP6000N. Let us know if you have any other questions.

If you would like to place a parts order, please contact the parts dept at 1-800-KLIPSCH (554-7724) option 6 Monday through Friday 8am to 5pm ET. We accept Visa, Mastercard, Discover and American Express over the phone, or you may send in a money order or certified check from a bank. Thank you for your email.


KlipschGroup Inc. Parts Dept.

The Ultimate Sound Experience

I had already found the same part from a Google search, and I think Klipsch is using partsearch along with Best Buy, J&R, and BrandsMart as part# and pricing were the same.

I called and spoke with support at partsearch, and the person I spoke with indicated this was NOT the original, but a direct replacement that presumably fixes the issues that are causing all of us pain. This one also retains the custom equalization settings of the original. I also asked and they do have a 30-day return policy that allows return as long as the part is in "resell-able condition".

I much prefer this route, as going with another amp means carving up the box and buying an amp with EQ capabilities to get the sound of the original.

I placed my order, and it should be here this week. Just thought I would post this up as it might help some folks out.

NateX.0
05-23-08, 06:19 PM
Got my amp in today and got it installed. It is a direct-fit replacement, and it appears to be an updated version as the components on the board were different. Can't complain at all with the service, and considering I am out of warranty, I can't complain period.

Now to see if this one holds up.

Jakeman02
05-23-08, 08:06 PM
Got my amp in today and got it installed. It is a direct-fit replacement, and it appears to be an updated version as the components on the board were different. Can't complain at all with the service, and considering I am out of warranty, I can't complain period.

Now to see if this one holds up.

It should, and you should have a new warranty on the amp at least since you paid for the replacement.

naiLS1
05-23-08, 09:35 PM
My 6000 amp died recently, I too now have a new coffee table compliments of Athena.

naiLS1 - I'm also thinking of getting that Bash 300w, is that the one from PE? Just wondering, does the new amp have terminals on the PC board to connect to the red/green LED indicator light?


I don't believe it had any connections for the lights. I know mine aren't hooked up.

It's good to hear that there IS actually a direct replacement amp that fixes the issue. Hopefully it holds up! Maybe some more of the 6000 amp owners will go that route as well.

Bluenose99
06-04-08, 10:52 AM
So do we get a "Green Award" for recycling these Athena coffee tables. Watched Transformers last night and was my 6000 every putting out the LFE's. Maybe that will be the next best thing...picking up non working Athena's and putting in used or upgraded amps rather than paying a lot more for a new sub.

Jakeman02
06-04-08, 11:42 AM
I don't think any awards are involved except for the enjoyment of extended its life if you want to look at it that way. I really like my 4000, when driven within it's limits I haven't found one I like better but it doesn't have alot of headroom. If the 6000 is anything like it (which it should be) with more headroom you're getting awarded.

Teronzhul
06-25-08, 10:45 PM
Sigh, my 6000 has apparently just kicked the bucket. It powers on, and if I turn it to "on" instead of "auto" and crank it to 10, then it will output a small amount of audio. It won't do anything otherwise.

I can't afford to drop $200 on an amp right now. This sucks.

Ralarcon
07-02-08, 03:49 PM
Not to jinx myself ,but I have owned a 6000 for 2 years and it has not missed a beat yet. It has been used almost every day for those 2 years.

Cheers.

Jakeman02
07-02-08, 08:01 PM
Not to jinx myself ,but I have owned a 6000 for 2 years and it has not missed a beat yet. It has been used almost every day for those 2 years.

Cheers.

Same with me and my 4000, reading this thread though I'll keep my fingers crossed.

acoustic5679
07-15-08, 05:54 PM
just over a year and my p-6000 just went out as well. It produces a scratchy sound that can only be heard when I turn the sub way up. I contacted Athena and they told me to try taking the speaker out and powering it with my receiver to see if its the actual sub. I am thinking from all these posts it is the amp. They refererred me to this company to have the amp serviced. www.sybesma.com 1-800-456-4265.

benjosevilla
08-01-08, 03:15 AM
My just died tonight. Same condition described by Teronzhul. Mine is 1 year and 8 months old. The $194 replacement option is a bit high. The Athena AS-P4100 (10 in version) is only $149. But there are a lot of similar issues with the P4100 as well. Someone recommended the Velogyne VX-10 as a good sub for the price point (http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/reviews/539813201).

acoustic5679
08-01-08, 09:59 AM
I have yet to hear back from sybesmas so I will let you know what they say.

benjosevilla
08-14-08, 12:37 AM
Any updates from those who got a replacement amp? The parts department at Klipsch says the replacement carries a 1 year warrantee. Partstore only carries a 30 day full refund. I'm hoping the replacement amp does not die the 13th month.

acoustic5679
08-14-08, 10:05 AM
I am waiting to get my amp back. I decided to have sybesmas repair it. I am still not sure if I just should have paid $50 more and gotten a new sub....

benjosevilla
08-14-08, 11:08 AM
I am waiting to get my amp back. I decided to have sybesmas repair it. I am still not sure if I just should have paid $50 more and gotten a new sub....

Did you pull the amp and just send it or did you ship the whole sub? Your last post was a victim of the db crash. If I remember, you said sybesmas was charging you something around $130. The new amp replacement is around $205 - $215 shipped. The main PCB is a bit cheaper (by $45) but I think it will require more work since you have to remove the original from the plate plus all the connections which might be soldered in.

acoustic5679
08-14-08, 11:16 AM
All I sent in was the amp and it will cost me $120 even. Only two wires were connected to the sub. They just slip on and off so there is no soldering needed. It might be hard to get the plate back on with those wires attached though because it is very tight. I could take the sub off and work on it from the outside, but I am worried I will hear rattleing if I mess with the glue and padding of the sub.

benjosevilla
08-14-08, 12:08 PM
All I sent in was the amp and it will cost me $120 even. Only two wires were connected to the sub. They just slip on and off so there is no soldering needed. It might be hard to get the plate back on with those wires attached though because it is very tight. I could take the sub off and work on it from the outside, but I am worried I will hear rattleing if I mess with the glue and padding of the sub.

I openned mine. It has the 2 wires for the speakers that are a bit short and 2 other plugin cables for the front LED and for the front volume control. Mine has a dab of silicone on the plugs for the LED and the volume control. I guess to prevent it from coming off. Removing the PCB board out of the aluminum plate will require more work. I'll look at it tonight. The cost of the PCB is $145 vs $194. The parts person at Athena can't tell me if the replacement board or amp is a revised version or the same exact one that last about a year.:mad:

benjosevilla
08-14-08, 12:10 PM
What repair warrantee is sybesmas giving you? One year?

acoustic5679
08-14-08, 12:13 PM
only 90 days, but they told me if anything happens to it they work with thier customers.

benjosevilla
08-15-08, 05:11 PM
I just pulled the amp unit last night. They placed a dub of silicone on the volume control and the LED connector cables, it was a bit hard pulling them out without damaging the cable connectors. Replacing just the main board is going to be a challenge since they glued the transistors to the aluminum plate. There are a few wires to solder back in as well. I think it is better to get the whole unit replaced. I'll call in Monday to get a replacement amp from Athena since they warrantee the unit for a full year. All others are 30 to 90 days only.

benjosevilla
08-18-08, 12:12 PM
Placed replacement order for the amp (5AMASP6000N). $209.42 shipped and comes with 1 year warrantee. It should be here by early next week.

lynesjc
08-19-08, 11:46 AM
Yikes, just stumbled across this thread. Had mine since Sept. '05 w/o problems, daily use...

Any idea of when the "bad" production run began?

benjosevilla
08-19-08, 12:35 PM
Yikes, just stumbled across this thread. Had mine since Sept. '05 w/o problems, daily use...

Any idea of when the "bad" production run began?

Maybe 06. Mine is Feb 07. Most have failed right after warrantee. I think I saw one post who got the unit fixed under warrantee. Nice to hear that you are problem free.

benjosevilla
08-22-08, 01:50 AM
The replacement amp came in today. I do not see any difference between the replacement and the original. Not even the markings and stickers. It came with the led and the front volume control. What was bad is that the connectors are glued on. So I did not have any choice but to remove the front plate and remove the led and volume control even if I think the old are still working fine. I had to unwrap and re-wrap the new cables with the fiber glass. Everything works well so far. It was a bit more work than I anticipated. I just hope it will last longer than the last one (18 months). The warrantee on the part is one year.

Ralarcon
09-17-08, 07:54 PM
Not to jinx myself ,but I have owned a 6000 for 2 years and it has not missed a beat yet. It has been used almost every day for those 2 years.

Cheers.

Well guys I jinxed myself, mine blew. I went ahead and replaced it with an Outlaw LFM-1 Ex. Now I'm thinking, do I repair it myself and install a new amplfier, for Dual 12 inch subwoofers or do I donate it to the municipal Dump? I already have a second subwoofer to smooth out the bass in the front.(Yamaha YST 315). It was good while it lasted, got about 2 and 1/2 years out of it. Oh well Cest la vie ! :(

gfunk5299
12-28-08, 06:20 PM
Same story here. Unplugged everything, moved the home theater to another wall in the room, plugged everything back in. No P6000 :(

One note about mine, I took the amp out and did a lot of troubleshooting. Mine is blowing the fuse immediately when plugging in the unit. If I unplug everything from the circuit board, I can turn on the power without the fuse blowing. Once I plug in the volume control, then the fuse blows instantly when plugging in the power. This is regardless of whether the amp is set to on/off/auto.

It is amazing that Athena/Klipsch will not warranty this equipment. Your sub should not fail from being moved across the room!!!!

Well, now what to do... I don't really trust buying a replacement amp from Athena. For $350, You can get some very nice 12" subs. Do I really want to spend $200 for another faulty amp. Maybe just out of principle I will not reward them for poor design and poor customer support.

Alternatively, I have an old two channel 300w external amp. I could rewire the sub into that amp. I won't have a cross-over, but my receiver does that already anyway on the LFE.

One question, if I use the old amp, should I bridge the two channels down to one to power the sub, or do I just run everything off one channel?

Did anyone have good results with a 3rd party replacement amp for the sub?

Thank you,
Kevin

benjosevilla
12-28-08, 10:33 PM
Same story here. Unplugged everything, moved the home theater to another wall in the room, plugged everything back in. No P6000 :(

One note about mine, I took the amp out and did a lot of troubleshooting. Mine is blowing the fuse immediately when plugging in the unit. If I unplug everything from the circuit board, I can turn on the power without the fuse blowing. Once I plug in the volume control, then the fuse blows instantly when plugging in the power. This is regardless of whether the amp is set to on/off/auto.

It is amazing that Athena/Klipsch will not warranty this equipment. Your sub should not fail from being moved across the room!!!!

Well, now what to do... I don't really trust buying a replacement amp from Athena. For $350, You can get some very nice 12" subs. Do I really want to spend $200 for another faulty amp. Maybe just out of principle I will not reward them for poor design and poor customer support.

Alternatively, I have an old two channel 300w external amp. I could rewire the sub into that amp. I won't have a cross-over, but my receiver does that already anyway on the LFE.

One question, if I use the old amp, should I bridge the two channels down to one to power the sub, or do I just run everything off one channel?

Did anyone have good results with a 3rd party replacement amp for the sub?

Thank you,
Kevin

most 3rd party will require some wood work. the external amp should work. No need to bridge it since it has enough power for one channel.

naiLS1
12-29-08, 10:42 PM
Mine required a small amount of woodwork. It only took a few minutes to cut out some extra space for the bigger amp I put in.

jstevenson
01-10-09, 07:10 PM
I've had the same issue now... the lack of warranty is killer. We have a service center in Van Nuys (LA Area) --- but I feel like after 3 years, it may be worth it to just replace it.

Mine was shipped to me on 8-31-05.

And it blew when I moved the subwoofer. Total bummer that that's how it went down. Still love my Athena Speakers though.

Any reccomendation for a sub that would play well with my other speakers is appreciated.

DavidParker
03-13-09, 02:27 PM
I have replaced my bad amp P6000 with an Elemental Designs A2-300. Only $350 with free shipping. There is a very active Elemental Designs forum here. It's an incredible sub and blends very well with my Athena speakers. Highly recommend.

Official Elemental Designs Subwoofer Thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=953081)