Paramount decided to be HD-DVD exclusive. I hope that Warner Bros decides to be Blu-ray exclusive, because they noticed that they are selling more blu-ray movies than HD-DVD movies and are starting to favor blu-ray with uncompressed sound tracks. If WB decides be an exclusive movie studio for the blu-ray format, I think that this would be a major blow to HD-DVD, because WB is a bigger movie studio than Paramount.

I hope someone here convinces WB to be an exclusive blu-ray supporter.

You better hope they release the movies that people think they are going to read (The Matrix).

Considering both Warner Bros. and Paramount were once HD DVD exclusive before becoming dual-format supporters, it's more probable the reverse would happen.

Actually, it's even more probable that Warner Bros. will stay dual-format.

By the way, Paramount is currently the best performing studio in box office.

The BD camp will have to come up with the cash as HD-DVD did. This move for HD-DVD was an act of desperation, and will not pay off. As I am going to keep saying. Everyone relax. We are still in control and don't see that changing.

Hopefully Warner Bros becomes HD Dvd exclusive like it was before. Or hopefully everyone goes neutral

I'm curious, why is it if the BDA throws money around to studios or rental chains or stores, this is a smart business move. If HD DVD does it, it's an act of desperation?

Warner has tons of patent royalties in HD DVD and was originally HD DVD exclusive. There is no way and no reason they would go BD exclusive.

Warner has tons of patent royalties in HD DVD and was originally HD DVD exclusive. There is no way and no reason they would go BD exclusive.

Exactly.

Paramount decided to be HD-DVD exclusive. I hope that Warner Bros decides to be Blu-ray exclusive, because they noticed that they are selling more blu-ray movies than HD-DVD movies and are starting to favor blu-ray with uncompressed sound tracks. If WB decides be an exclusive movie studio for the blu-ray format, I think that this would be a major blow to HD-DVD, because WB is a bigger movie studio than Paramount.

I hope someone here convinces WB to be an exclusive blu-ray supporter.

Why would they? Blu-Ray has yet to even get finalized codes which is why your not enjoying The Matrix or many other titles on Blu-Ray.

I'm curious, why is it if the BDA throws money around to studios or rental chains or stores, this is a smart business move. If HD DVD does it, it's an act of desperation?

Assuming this wasn't a rhetorical question, the answer is hypocrisy :)

Well the BD camp paid Paramount to go neutral for one year, how long do you think their agreement with Warner lasts?

Well the BD camp paid Paramount to go neutral for one year, how long do you think their agreement with Warner lasts?

We have articles confirming HD DVD paid Paramount to go exclusive, not Sony having paid Paramount to go neutral. :rolleyes:


Spin spin spin!

We have articles confirming HD DVD paid Paramount to go exclusive, not Sony having paid Paramount to go neutral. :rolleyes:


Spin spin spin!

Could you please post some of those links? The only one I saw was from the FUD-inducing Blu-Ray.com site.

I'm seriously curious to see how true that is.

We have articles confirming HD DVD paid Paramount to go exclusive, not Sony having paid Paramount to go neutral. :rolleyes:


Spin spin spin!

No **** is amazes me on how the HD-DVD campers spin this crap.... If Sony did this you would think it would be the end of the world.

Could you please post some of those links? The only one I saw was from the FUD-inducing Blu-Ray.com site.

I'm seriously curious to see how true that is.

Far from FUD, at least they are confirming it on there own web site.. Once again nice spin.. ;)

http://www.viacom.com/NEWS/NewsText.aspx?RID=1042073

Far from FUD, at least they are confirming it on there own web site.. Once again nice spin.. ;)

http://www.viacom.com/NEWS/NewsText.aspx?RID=1042073

Out of curiosity where did you see anywhere in the article that they were paid royalties to be HD DVD exclusive.

From the article:

"The combination of Paramount and DreamWorks Animation brings a critical mass of current box office hits to consumers with a line-up of live action and animated films that are perfect for HD DVD," stated Brad Grey, Chairman and CEO of Paramount Pictures, which is currently the leading studio in domestic box office. "Part of our vision is to aggressively extend our movies beyond the theater, and deliver the quality and features that appeal to our audience. I believe HD DVD is not only the affordable high quality choice for consumers, but also the smart choice for Paramount."

"We decided to release "Shrek the Third" and other DreamWorks Animation titles exclusively on HD DVD because we believe it is the best format to bring high quality home entertainment to a key segment of our audience -- families," stated DreamWorks Animation CEO, Jeffrey Katzenberg. "We believe the combination of this year's low-priced HD DVD players and the commitment to release a significant number of hit titles in the fall makes HD DVD the best way to view movies at home."

Far from FUD, at least they are confirming it on there own web site.. Once again nice spin.. ;)

http://www.viacom.com/NEWS/NewsText.aspx?RID=1042073

Feel free to post quotes from that article where a payoff is mentioned. Come on people, let's keep it real.

I'm curious, why is it if the BDA throws money around to studios or rental chains or stores, this is a smart business move. If HD DVD does it, it's an act of desperation?
Yeah i have to wonder about that also.If one camp has used its brute force it's the BD camp.Now things are changing though.Why would anybody think that a format that has companies like Toshiba (1.1 billion in profit in the last fiscal year, better than sony) and Microsoft backing it would roll over and die is beyond me.

Far from FUD, at least they are confirming it on there own web site.. Once again nice spin.. ;)

http://www.viacom.com/NEWS/NewsText.aspx?RID=1042073

The only spin I see is yours.... Nowhere in that press release was there mention of the HD DVD camp paying Paramount to go HD DVD exclusive. The ONLY place I've seen that is on the blu-ray.com site.

So again I ask -- where is there a reputable site confirming the $150M payoff?

Feel free to post quotes from that article where a payoff is mentioned. Come on people, let's keep it real.

Agreed. Many suspected Sony of paying off studios, so why bother bringing up if the other format did it?

Is it only okay when the payoff is being made by the BDA? Well if true that HD DVD paid off Paramount, it all goes to show that each format can play a dirty game, and rightfully so.

Sorry guys, my mistake.... I thought he was looking for more links on this being real news.... The $150M payoff is not mentioned in the link I posted.... ;(

Sorry guys, my mistake.... I thought he was looking for more links on this being real news.... The $15M payoff is not mentioned in the link I posted.... ;(
No problem, I wasn't 100% clear in my post. :)

I Hope Warner Bros Becomes Blu-ray Exclusive

Reminds me of something from Bad Santa. Columbia Pictures title I know but probably appropriate in this case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_bx6B3dBMM

Warning NSFW.

Thanks, I just think I gave a left testicle up for that last post!! ;) Ouch!!!

Sorry guys, my mistake.... I thought he was looking for more links on this being real news.... The $150M payoff is not mentioned in the link I posted.... ;(


Simple mistake. I kind of figured that's what you meant. The $150M payoff has not been mentioned by a credible source as of yet. Even if it is the case as someone who just went format neutral I see no problem. I was under the impression that Sony had already done this. Fight fire with fire I guess.

rumors are that warner will go back to exclusive to HDDVD... see this is what sony wanted and now we have a big mess... they could have avoided this in the beginning when they were both in agreement for doing just 1 format.... now this war just got interesting and the consumers who love movies will have to get both....if they want both movies

rumors are that warner will go back to exclusive to HDDVD... see this is what sony wanted and now we have a big mess... they could have avoided this in the beginning when they were both in agreement for doing just 1 format.... now this war just got interesting and the consumers who love movies will have to get both....if they want both movies

If Warner goes exclusive to HD DVD, barring any contracts that Fox/Disney have with Sony, I don't see either of those companies staying with BD. Fox hasn't released a title in forever -- everyone assumed it was waiting for Profile 1.1 and/or BD+, but maybe it was to wait and see what happened with the two big format neutral companies. Could it be (and this is PURELY speculation) that they knew that Sony paid Warner and Paramount to go neutral and wanted to see what happened when that contract expired? Could be... (again - PURELY SPECULATION ON MY PART).

I support both BR and HD-DVD but have always sideded with HD-DVD and now that they got Paramount I think it is going to make Warner choose a side and Fox. Joon is just a BR fanboy thats why he is so harsh when it comes to the HD War. But things like this need to happen that way this war is over soon since it is impacting the consumer which is only paying money for the format they believe will win. So we will see this upcoming Fall / Winter will be vital to both camps.

The BD camp will have to come up with the cash as HD-DVD did. This move for HD-DVD was an act of desperation, and will not pay off. As I am going to keep saying. Everyone relax. We are still in control and don't see that changing.

ITS ONLY A FLESH WOUND!

Not going to happen. They'll most likely stay neutral, but if they were going to pick a side it would be HD DVD.

Not going to happen anytime soon IMO. Warner and Toshiba have had a long relationship going back to the the original DVD. But I sincerely hope all the studio would go neutral. I support HD DVD and do so because of the capability of the player, the price of entry into the HD arena without getting a gaming console.

I'm curious, why is it if the BDA throws money around to studios or rental chains or stores, this is a smart business move. If HD DVD does it, it's an act of desperation?

I agree here..... I remember what people were saying when BDA did the same thing.

What this really does is pushes the importance of Universal players if you want one machine and all movies.

Why on earth would Warner throw away 1/3 of their earnings. They're making more money being Dual Format than any other HD studio.

yeah but the problem is... you put Sony, Fox,and Disney on one side then put Universal, Paramount, and Warner Bros on another. I wouldn't be far fetched saying that more people would go with the Universal, Paramount, Warner side. I recently just went neutral from winning a PS3. Good Luck to both sides though, whoever wins really doesn't matter to me.

but to answer your question if they go one side, more people start going to that format in turn is cheaper since they only have to press and code one disk

Why on earth would Warner throw away 1/3 of their earnings. They're making more money being Dual Format than any other HD studio.
They're not throwing away 1/3 of their earnings (or 2/3 of their earnings if they go HD DVD exclusive). They sold less than 300,000 copies of '300,' so it's a VERY small slice of their sales.

Combine that with the fact that if they pick one side (my bet would be HD DVD), plenty more copies of the HD DVD version would've been sold. Lots of people went with the BD version because it was a few bucks cheaper (even though it had less features). I'd say that Warner would've sold 150,000 copies on HD DVD if they didn't release a BD version, maybe more. Now you look at the cost savings for only providing one format (less shelf space, less production plants, etc, etc) and it might just make sense to pick a side.

I agree with you Eric. Only because they release some catalog releases on HD and not BD that is already telling you something. And remember Total HD is put on the back burner forever and there already to some re releasing without the combo DVD like Superman and Ant Bully that goes to show that they obviously still support HD DVD 100%.