I know Michael Bay directed it, but is it considered a Spielberg film? If so then this news becomes a lot less HUGE.

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The Paramount press release specifically mentions that the release of Transformers will be an HD DVD exclusive.

No... only Spielberg directed films are not HD DVD exclusive.

Transformers is specifically mentioned as a future HD DVD exclusive title this fall.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11355224&postcount=18

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The Paramount press release specifically mentions that the release of Transformers will be an HD DVD exclusive.

Yep.

"Paramount Home Entertainment will launch its exclusive HD DVD program with the release of the blockbuster comedy hit "Blades of Glory" on August 28th and follow with two of the biggest grossing movies of the year "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third". These three titles alone represent more than $1.5 billion in box office ticket sales worldwide."

http://www.viacom.com/NEWS/NewsText.aspx?RID=1042073

weill i cant tell for the u.s. but here in germany Transformers will be released in Blu-ray.

You cann allready preorder it here: http://www.amazon.de/Transformers-Blu-ray/dp/B000V0NHCW******pd_bbs_sr_1/302-6239604-5054420?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1187638713&sr=8-1

But i would preorder it now, cause the price is pretty high, it will go down in time.

Actually if paramount went exclusive across the board. I think that link will be irrelevant in a few days :D

No... only Spielberg directed films are not HD DVD exclusive.

Exactly. The films Spielberg only Directed belong to the studios, hence "not format specific". Like Sony choosing to release CE3K on Blu-Ray because it owns 100% of the rights. Or Universal owning Jurassic Park.

But, films in which he is a Producer he owns some controlling stake and has some say in the format on which it is released - like Transformers, of which he is an Executive Producer, and is going HD DVD only.

weill i cant tell for the u.s. but here in germany Transformers will be released in Blu-ray.

You cann allready preorder it here: http://www.amazon.de/Transformers-Blu-ray/dp/B000V0NHCW******pd_bbs_sr_1/302-6239604-5054420?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1187638713&sr=8-1

But i would preorder it now, cause the price is pretty high, it will go down in time.

Not any more...


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Dreamworks, which is partially Spielberg's baby, is also HD DVD exclusive is it not?

Dreamworks, which is partially Spielberg's baby, is also HD DVD exclusive is it not?

With today's announcement it is because they are a subsidiary of Paramount now.

if you want Transformers on blu-ray speak up to michael bay

www.michaelbay.com

I guess now I have to buy either a dual format player or a HD DVD and Blu Ray so I can watch Transformers.

Format neutral is the best option for anyone who loves HD movies.

Just buy or rent transformers on DVD and play it back on your PS3...it will upscale it to 1080p...sure you will not get the 7.1 or 5.1 uncompressed PCM ro dolby HD audio...but you will get a nice picture...

Just buy or rent transformers on DVD and play it back on your PS3...it will upscale it to 1080p...sure you will not get the 7.1 or 5.1 uncompressed PCM ro dolby HD audio...but you will get a nice picture...
HD DVD supporters have been saying this for months.

HD DVD supporters have been saying this for months.

Why would HD DVD supporters own a PS3? Wouldn't they be neutral at that point?

if you want Transformers on blu-ray speak up to michael bay

www.michaelbay.com



Umm Michael Bay has already had someone post on that site.


Transformers to be released on standard definition DVD and HD-DVD only
08/20/2007 03:57 PM


Nelson here...

It appears that Transformers will be released on on regular DVD & HD-DVD only and not Blu-Ray.

Paramount/Dreamworks has decided to drop it's support for Blu-Ray. That means you must either own a Toshiba HD-DVD player or have the HD-DVD add-on for the xBox 360 to view Transformers in HD

Just buy or rent transformers on DVD and play it back on your PS3...it will upscale it to 1080p...sure you will not get the 7.1 or 5.1 uncompressed PCM ro dolby HD audio...but you will get a nice picture...

??? No point in buying into either HD format if that is acceptable. Save some money and buy Spider-Man 3 on DVD and let the PS3 "upconvert".

Upconversion doesn't magically turn DVDs into HD material.

Format neutral is the best option for anyone who loves HD movies.

Fully agree.

Why would HD DVD supporters own a PS3? Wouldn't they be neutral at that point?

here is a WILD idea.

Perhaps they actually play games on the PS3 and not have it for Blu-ray?

Dunno, seems a bit far fetched........

??? No point in buying into either HD format if that is acceptable. Save some money and buy Spider-Man 3 on DVD and let the PS3 "upconvert".

You make a very good point. Maybe I will buy it and play it in my XBOX 360. Will it upconvert it the same? Or should I just take your advice and play it in my PS3.

Format neutral is the best option for anyone who loves HD movies.
And those with an extra couple hundred dollars lying around.

Format neutral is the best option for anyone who loves HD movies.QFT

AFter the 1 year contract, it will be released on Blu-Ray or it will be released from another countries in Blu-Ray... no need to worry.

I find it funny how HD-DVD fans will take just 1 film and get all excited LOL...sounds like desperation building up all these months.

It's only a movie mate....

Just buy or rent transformers on DVD and play it back on your PS3...it will upscale it to 1080p...sure you will not get the 7.1 or 5.1 uncompressed PCM ro dolby HD audio...but you will get a nice picture...

That's what lame ol hd dvd supporters say. This sux because the only movie I'd want from paramount is Transformers :-(

AFter the 1 year contract, it will be released on Blu-Ray or it will be released from another countries in Blu-Ray... no need to worry.

Apparently its a "few years".

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33722

AFter the 1 year contract, it will be released on Blu-Ray or it will be released from another countries in Blu-Ray... no need to worry.

I find it funny how HD-DVD fans will take just 1 film and get all excited LOL...sounds like desperation building up all these months.

It's only a movie mate....

Errrrmmm........1) It more like a "few years" or more, like the press release says. 2) Its not one film, its a few WHOLE studios. In fact, the biggest grossing studio this year, and 3) Lovely REGION CODING that your beloved Blu Ray association insisted on will likely prevent you from importing it.

But hey, its "just a movie", right?

For instance the Indiana Jones movies were all directed by Spielberg but bankrolled to a point and distributed by Paramount, so all three "should" still come out in both formats if and when they ever decide to put them out.

man transformers would of been awesome in PCM 5.1. Hopefully the HD-DVD will have Dolby TrueHD :)

considering paramount has said they are rolling out lossless for both formats before I would imagine it will.

For those that don't think it'll fit in 30GB...by then there will be 34GB discs and possibly more than that.

Just buy or rent transformers on DVD and play it back on your PS3...it will upscale it to 1080p...sure you will not get the 7.1 or 5.1 uncompressed PCM ro dolby HD audio...but you will get a nice picture...


Why would anyone want to watch a crappy upconverted DVD. They all look like crap compared to BD and HD DVD. I watched upconverted DVD from 2001 to April 2006. Not anymore those days are done. There is no detail on a dvd compared to a BD or HD DVD. That is why I buy movies on both formats. I want to see HD movies and only HD movies.

I find it funny how HD-DVD fans will take just 1 film and get all excited LOL...sounds like desperation building up all these months.
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Why would HD DVD supporters own a PS3? Wouldn't they be neutral at that point?

I am curious. How come owning or supporting both formats make one neutral? I thought neutrality was not supporting either?

here is a WILD idea.

Perhaps they actually play games on the PS3 and not have it for Blu-ray?

Dunno, seems a bit far fetched........

No. First you must have games to be able to play on it. Gone are the days of exclusive games selling consoles.:D

Why would anyone want to watch a crappy upconverted DVD. They all look like crap compared to BD and HD DVD. I watched upconverted DVD from 2001 to April 2006. Not anymore those days are done. There is no detail on a dvd compared to a BD or HD DVD. That is why I buy movies on both formats. I want to see HD movies and only HD movies.

So do I, but I'd rather not buy two formats if at all possible.

So no thanks. At this point, this is the only movie in SD I have intentions of buying in the near future, since it seems Grindhouse will be blu.

i can tell you. if hd-dvd and bluray wont fix their piracy problem. people will be playing transformers and other movies in 1080p or 720p from their ps3 harddisk.

Ps3 is a great multi media system. but for some people it is even better then it supposed to be.

Transformers is still available for preorder on Amazon.com UK.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transformers-Blu-ray/dp/B000V0NHCW******sr_1_2/026-7467209-2147652?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1188080078&sr=1-2

Maybe the deal only applies to the US?

"Like it was said before if the studio doesn't give you an option you have to find another solution"

The studio does give you an option, buy an HD-DVD player, having both is the only option that makes sense for movie lovers. If your just a fanboy it doesn't matter anyway.

"Like it was said before if the studio doesn't give you an option you have to find another solution"

The studio does give you an option, buy an HD-DVD player, having both is the only option that makes sense for movie lovers. If your just a fanboy it doesn't matter anyway.

Considering that, a week ago, I was fully expecting to own the film on Blu-ray this year, that "fanboy" argument doesn't really hold much water. This isn't like Universal.. when I see a Universal film in theatres, I know damn well I'm not getting them on BD any time in the forseeable future. But a week ago I fully expected every Paramount film to be available. That they're suddenly not is nothing less than a smack in the face. And if you can't see that, then you need to look really hard at yourself in regards to the phrase "fanboy".

I know the Red team is laughing their asses off over this, but don't think for a minute that the situation wouldn't be reversed if the decision had gone the other way.

Yep.

"Paramount Home Entertainment will launch its exclusive HD DVD program with the release of the blockbuster comedy hit "Blades of Glory" on August 28th and follow with two of the biggest grossing movies of the year "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third". These three titles alone represent more than $1.5 billion in box office ticket sales worldwide."

http://www.viacom.com/NEWS/NewsText.aspx?RID=1042073

Paramount movies actually did better domestically (as a percentage of boxoffice) than worldwide. I don't know why they use worldwide. PotC3 alone worldwide grossed close to 1B. Just one movie. :D

Like it was said before if the studio doesn't give you an option you have to find another solution. I was really excited about getting Transformers on Blu-Ray, but now thanks to this whole Paramount disaster I'll be looking at other "alternatives". May or may not consider the SD DVD.

I just refuse to buy an HD-DVD player so I can watch one movie. I'm sure there are a couple other movies thay may be good, but none come to mind. Shrek 3 was a yawner for me. The kids kind of liked it, but nothing Cars, Ratatouille, and Pixar shorts can't fix (my 2 year old found it boring too, but my 5 year old thought it was okay).

The only Universal title I was thinking of getting was Bourne Ultimatum.

Heroes - awesome show, but wouldn't buy the season unless it's at a ridiculously low special price.

Poolrad - I do have morals, but considering it was very easy for a studio to be bought out by plain greed with no disregard to their consumers then I don't see what I would be doing wrong. I have every intention on buying Transformers on Blu-ray so I can watch it on my PS3. Be it either imported or if I have to wait until it gets released on Blu-Ray.


Would you be saying this if it was BD exclusive? I think not. Hypocritical to say the least

the absolute worst freakin excuse i have ever heard was

"I REFUSE TO BUY HDDVD TO WATCH ONE MOVIE"

yeah right !!!

with all the exclusive releases out ,you really expect us to believe theres nothing but transformers worth watching !!!

the absolute worst freakin excuse i have ever heard was

"I REFUSE TO BUY HDDVD TO WATCH ONE MOVIE"

yeah right !!!

with all the exclusive releases out ,you really expect us to believe theres nothing but transformers worth watching !!!

Consider for a moment that maybe some of us didn't buy into HD-DVD because there weren't enough movies exclusive to the format that we'd enjoy watching. Adding ONE more isn't going to change that. Also factor in that every exclusive film that I'm interested in, with the exception of TF, I already own on DVD. So it's not like I can't still watch the films any time I want.

So the question to ask is "Is HD-DVD worth buying into in order to watch ONE film that I don't have, and to upgrade four or five others to HD?" And the answer is a rather easy "no".

Would you be saying this if it was BD exclusive? I think not. Hypocritical to say the least

If Transformers was BD exclusive I wouldn't be saying anything! I'd be getting ready to enjoy the movie. If it was advertised as dual format released and then changed to BD Exclusive, I would be extatic as it would be one more step towards a winning format. It would be consistent with the current trend of 71:29 and would make sense. Going HD-DVD exclusive doesn't make sense to, but then again I'm sure I would have a hard time saying no if someone was waving $150 million in front of me.

Money does funny things to all of us. ;)

the absolute worst freakin excuse i have ever heard was

"I REFUSE TO BUY HDDVD TO WATCH ONE MOVIE"

yeah right !!!

with all the exclusive releases out ,you really expect us to believe theres nothing but transformers worth watching !!!

Well actually yeah "I REFUSE TO BUY HD-DVD TO WATCH ONE MOVIE". I based my decision based on future releases and made sure that the movies I wanted would be available in the format I chose. Universal didn't make squat this year in the movies so the decision was fairly easy. I own all the previous catalog titles so I'm not worried about those.

So to sum it up in the words of Jedi2016: "Is HD-DVD worth buying into in order to watch ONE film that I don't have, and to upgrade four or five others to HD?" And the answer is a rather easy "NO".

If Transformers was BD exclusive I wouldn't be saying anything! I'd be getting ready to enjoy the movie. If it was advertised as dual format released and then changed to BD Exclusive, I would be extatic as it would be one more step towards a winning format. It would be consistent with the current trend of 71:29 and would make sense. Going HD-DVD exclusive doesn't make sense to, but then again I'm sure I would have a hard time saying no if someone was waving $150 million in front of me.

Money does funny things to all of us. ;)

Yes it does, but I think there is more going on behind the scenes than just money. I'm sure studios are not too happy with 90% of BD movies being played on a video game system. I personally think that is raising some eyebrows.

Yes it does, but I think there is more going on behind the scenes than just money. I'm sure studios are not too happy with 90% of BD movies being played on a video game system. I personally think that is raising some eyebrows.

I don't see why that would make a difference. Who cares what machine people are watching BD movies, as long as people are buying them. But, personally, I think Sony is making a big mistake when it comes to the marketing of the PS3. I think they think just the name "Playstation" will entice people to buy it.

Yes it does, but I think there is more going on behind the scenes than just money. I'm sure studios are not too happy with 90% of BD movies being played on a video game system. I personally think that is raising some eyebrows.

I guess it could play a factor, but look at the success that the PS2 had at promoting DVD. When I bought my first PS2 back in the day didn't even have a DVD player. I started buying into them after that. Once the price of stand alone DVD players came down I purchased a stand alone another room in my house.

I don't see how this time around it could be any different. Sony is taking another gamble to help promote it's format. MS could have done the same thing to promote their format, but chose not to have HD-DVD functionality built in. I don't believe that they did it to save money as it would have sold regardless. What do you think the outcome would be now with over 10 mil 360's worldwide and if all of those had built in HD-DVD functionality? To me it just seemed like MS's lack of trust in HD-DVD. Way to support their format of choice if you ask me. :rolleyes:

I don't see why that would make a difference. Who cares what machine people are watching BD movies, as long as people are buying them. But, personally, I think Sony is making a big mistake when it comes to the marketing of the PS3. I think they think just the name "Playstation" will entice people to buy it.

Good point. I think the PS3 marketing is horrible. The PS2 was promoted with games and DVD. The PS3 is being promoted with BD, but where are all the games. Hopefully the ones scheduled to come out in the next few months will be good.

Would you be saying this if it was BD exclusive? I think not. Hypocritical to say the least

Here's a good quote from a commentary on tvpredictions.com:

"It should be noted that other studios are exclusively for HD DVD or Blu-ray. While this practice is highly questionable and anti-consumer, Paramount is the only studio to actually drop support of a format. No other studio has broken its word to consumers. Universal doesn’t support Blu-ray and Disney doesn’t support HD DVD; they never said that they would so nobody ever counted on them."

Just buy or rent transformers on DVD and play it back on your PS3...it will upscale it to 1080p...sure you will not get the 7.1 or 5.1 uncompressed PCM ro dolby HD audio...but you will get a nice picture...

Best Deal;)

Here's a good quote from a commentary on tvpredictions.com:

"It should be noted that other studios are exclusively for HD DVD or Blu-ray. While this practice is highly questionable and anti-consumer, Paramount is the only studio to actually drop support of a format. No other studio has broken its word to consumers. Universal doesn’t support Blu-ray and Disney doesn’t support HD DVD; they never said that they would so nobody ever counted on them."

Bingo. That's why I don't lump Paramount in with the same group as Universal.. because I never expected Universal titles on Blu-ray. But I did expect Paramount titles on Blu-ray. That's why this is such a smack in the face. I'm sure the Red team would understand our side better if Warner were to suddenly drop HD-DVD.

bahhh, the best option is to get both.

wow the logic used in this thread is retarded. If WB goes HD exclusive will you start stealing they're movies too becase they broke their promise to you? If BD dies all together would you only downlod HD movies totally? Sometimes I wonder if retardation and AVS go hand in hand cause I've read some of the most ridiculous logic on this planet on this site

wow the logic used in this thread is retarded. If WB goes HD exclusive will you start stealing they're movies too becase they broke their promise to you? If BD dies all together would you only downlod HD movies totally? Sometimes I wonder if retardation and AVS go hand in hand cause I've read some of the most ridiculous logic on this planet on this site


Of course not. If HD-DVD would get another exclusive studio and over time tip things in their favor and win out as the top format I would have no problem finally breaking down and purchasing an HD-DVD player. I just don't want to be split between 2 formats. I have started with Blu-Ray due to the fact that I purchased a PS3, and can watch BD on it. If BD doesn't survive I still plan on having my PS3 for many years in which I can still enjoy my previously purchased BD movies.

If WB went exclusive to HD-DVD it would certainly help and push things toward HD-DVD. I wouldn't download their stuff as I hate download service (I have broadband, but still not fast enough for me plus I like to actually have the movie in a case in my collection, and not on my hard drive). I'd wait to see what the outcome is of this "format war", but at the same time I'd buy BD titles that come out in support of their format. Any HD-DVD exclusives that I would want to watch will have to be SD purchases.

I just won't invest into HD-DVD until I feel that they are the winning format or at least have a chance. I don't feel that at this point, but things change. I don't see what's so ridiculous about this logic as I'm trying to spell it out as best I can. Ridiculous to me would be supporting another format while I've already invested in one when the outcome of the other is still unsure.

And for the record I'm still pissed that Transformers isn't coming to BD. :D Life still goes on though so trust me one title won't break it for me. A bunch of titles on the other hand could be a convincing argument.

Just buy or rent transformers on DVD and play it back on your PS3...it will upscale it to 1080p...sure you will not get the 7.1 or 5.1 uncompressed PCM ro dolby HD audio...but you will get a nice picture...

Good point, and I will be taking the same avenue with Superbad except I will buy it on DVD and play it back on my HD-A2.

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