http://http://www.dvdtown.com/news/fox-and-mgm-gets-back-in-the-blu-ray-game/4679
Only a surprise because the announcement came the same day.

No worky for me.

Yes....we know. The Fox/MGM news is no where near as big as Paramount becoming HD DVD exclusive.

Makes you wonder what they've been waiting on. Why does paramount's decision suddenly force FOX to move along.. Did somebody give them a check this morning???

And this story has no place in the HD DVD Software section. Lock please.

wow

fox finally decided to issue out more movies than it has been?

About time???

The Fox/MGM news is no where near as big as Paramount becoming HD DVD exclusive.

:D It sounds like you might also get out a yard stick to measure the "bigness" of other things. What is your point? The "size" has no place in this discussion anymore that the size of any part of anatomy :D :rolleyes:

The Fox/MGM news was a long time coming; they were just waiting for the right time to bring positive light back onto the BD camp.

And this story has no place in the HD DVD Software section. Lock please.

That's nonsense. This is not the "No discussion of anything but outright gushing praise of HD-DVD" section. The development about Fox and MGM is not only newsworthy, it is darned interesting. Major players are making big plays today. Leave your sensitivty in the luggage, and open up to productive discussion/discourse of the elements that ultimately will affect us all. It's a big news day in this field.

You see? That's the spirit of competition for you. If it weren't for HD DVD, this move would have taken much longer. Long live both formats!!!

Fox supporting Blu-Ray for the second time over is the biggest non-event of the year!

That's nonsense. This is not the "No discussion of anything but outright gushing praise of HD-DVD" section. The development about Fox and MGM is not only newsworthy, it is darned interesting. Major players and plays are being made today. Leave your sensitivty in the luggage, and open up to productive discussion/discourse of the elements that ultimately will affect us all. It's a big news day in this field.



Not really. They announced titles that had been previously announced before they put their tail between their legs and ran away for the last few months. This news means nothing to me until they actually hit the shelves.

I wouldn't call it a counter-punch, more like covering up to avoid another blow. An exclusive studio re-announcing their support isn't news in my mind.

exactly !!!

the fox announcement of reaffirmation of blu ray support is like if universal came out with a press release saying they still support hddvd and also updated a list of future releases ...

somebody call universal for that press release,then the hddvd camp could re-counter the fox counter of paramonts going exclusive to hddvd:p

That's nonsense. This is not the "No discussion of anything but outright gushing praise of HD-DVD" section. The development about Fox and MGM is not only newsworthy, it is darned interesting. Major players are making big plays today. Leave your sensitivty in the luggage, and open up to productive discussion/discourse of the elements that ultimately will affect us all. It's a big news day in this field.
The proper area for this kind of discussion would be the HDTV Software Media section. Anything to do with Blu-ray doesn't belong in the HD DVD sections. While you're at it go post a thread about Paramount's move in the Blu-ray software section if you believe that's the proper place for it :rolleyes:

Sony and the BDA declaring Blu-ray victorious for the umpteenth time in 5, 4, 3, 2....

I wouldn't call it a counter-punch, more like covering up to avoid another blow. An exclusive studio re-announcing their support isn't news in my mind.

So... when does FOX re-announce that they will be canceling 80% of what they promiced like they did last year. :D :D

Craig

Yes....we know. The Fox/MGM news is no where near as big as Paramount becoming HD DVD exclusive.

Is this true?
Paramount will be HD-DVD exclusive?

Craig

So... when does FOX re-announce that they will be canceling 80% of what they promiced like they did last year. :D :D

Craig

Not last year...THIS YEAR, shortly after their big announcement for all the titles that they were releasing at CES 2007.

Is this true?
Paramount will be HD-DVD exclusive?

Craig

...Yes....Where have you been? :)

The Paramount announcement is very big.

And in this context, bigness does count. It's not anatomical, its numerical.

Regards,
Fitzie

Prior to press release:

Fox talks about releasing titles exclusively on BD someday.

Press release:

Fox talks about releasing titles exclusively on BD someday.

....

Perhaps it's just me, but I'm failing to see the news, let alone a counter-punch.

Prior to press release:

Fox talks about releasing titles exclusively on BD someday.

Press release:

Fox talks about releasing titles exclusively on BD someday.

....

Perhaps it's just me, but I'm failing to see the news, let alone a counter-punch.

Hehe, no kidding. And from looking at that list, it's hardly the 'flood' of titles they keep making it out to be.

Of course, he didn't say which direction the punch was in. From the looks of it, its towards the ground, not really back at HD-DVD at all.

What I really love is the "flood" of Disney titles recently announced. There's about half-a-dozen titles and they're coming out in 18 months or so! WOW! :rolleyes:

You've got to hand it to the BDA -- they keep their executive assistants real busy typing up press rleases every hour!

I'm very excited about some of these Fox movies. I'll certainly purchase a few of them.

However, Blu-ray fanboys confuse me. Isn't it odd that it took Fox almost 6 months to start putting out movies again? What would a Blu-ray fanboy say if Universal didn't release any movies for that long?

How is having one of your exclusive partners start to release discs again a counter punch vs. another studio going exclusive to the opposing format?

Little too little little too late as far as i'm concerned.I could care less if Fox EVER decides to issue BRD's or HD DVDs at this point.I can see HD Star Wars on Cinemax every so often,so even if they release the 43rd edition of the film on an HD format, or any of their movies for that matter i could care less.

Seems to me that news was meant for the conferance but since the Paramount announcement blindsided everyone today, they hda to do something to try and bring some of the spotlight back on BlueRay.

What I really love is the "flood" of Disney titles recently announced. There's about half-a-dozen titles and they're coming out in 18 months or so! WOW! :rolleyes:

You've got to hand it to the BDA -- they keep their executive assistants real busy typing up press rleases every hour!

Not thread related, but I am impressed with your collection.

Most of these titles are what they promised at CES in January. There is nothing new and exciting about this list...except I, ROBOT which I will by. But what happened to MAN ON FIRE? Fox is the lamest studio of ALL the Hi Def companies.

Prior to press release:

Fox talks about releasing titles exclusively on BD someday.

Press release:

Fox talks about releasing titles exclusively on BD someday.

....

Perhaps it's just me, but I'm failing to see the news, let alone a counter-punch.Yeah..."punch" isn't quite the right word. Even to say it was a "pat" is way overpowered for what Fox replied with...HA!! They did this same thing only a few months back at CES. I assume some same day cancellations will be forthcoming on the BD side...;)

Um, some nice titles, but most I wouldn't bother with. I see 3, no 4 counting Die Hard4 ( and the DH collection) I might buy if I had the blues.

What eases the sting is a good number of these will eventually find there way here on HD through the European pipeline
I wonder if Blu picked up from Fox as many as they lost from Paramount today
FOX planed releases are:
Die Hard 4
FF Silver Surfer (along with four day & date BD/DVD new theatrical releases from MGM )

October 2 - 'Master & Commander,' 'The Day After Tomorrow'
October 9 - 'From Hell,' 'The Fly (1986)', 'Edward Scissorhands,' '28 Days Later,' 'RoboCop,' 'The Amityville Horror (1979)'
November 6 - 'Battle of Britain,' 'A Bridge Too Far'
November 13 - 'I, Robot'
December 4 - 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith,' 'Independence Day,' 'Cast Away,' 'Ronin'

and the whole Die hard trilogy and Prison Break some time.

still over a month until they start producing HD disks again..

Errmmm....how exactly is this news for the HD-DVD forum?????? Fox announcing that they are re-anouncing previously cancelled titles for Blu Ray?? It wasn't news for HD-DVD the first time aound, why would it be applicable now?

Yeah..."punch" isn't quite the right word.

Love tap, maybe...? :D

If only Fox supported their beloved Blu-ray as well as they did D-Theater. From the Fox list, these are the titles I own on D-Theater:

MASTER & COMMANDER
THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW
FROM HELL
I, ROBOT
DIE HARD
INDEPENDENCE DAY

and I even own one on HD DVD:

MR. AND MRS. SMITH (I don't recall the CES list but is this the only title to make another showing on a Fox "Coming Soon to Blu-ray" list??)

Fox is an odd studio. They dragged thier feet in supporting Standard DVD. Now they are dragging thier feet with Blu Ray.

While you're at it go post a thread about Paramount's move in the Blu-ray software section if you believe that's the proper place for it
I certainly would have if I had found no one had already posted that news there. It's there, and being debated at length. I just happened to stumble on the Fox/MGM announcement before anyone had posted it here. So, I passed on the news to open discussion on how folks here of all persuations feel about it. I disagree that the two announcements only belong in the HD Media section. These two announcements and the posting of the threads about them are not about the content or merits of the HD-DVD and Blu-ray software. They are about the release of that software and how it affects both camps. It's about big business and actions by big corporate players that will ultimately affect what we watch.

I agree with all of you that "punch" is a comical term in this case. Counter is not. It is a "counter-punch" in that it's "timely" release most certainly is a direct response to the Paramount/Dreamworks announcement/development today. I suspect the phones at Fox were white hot this morning after the Paramount/DW announcement. IMO it's a highly predictable response...and seems to be all they had to go with. Now, if they had happened to have a major ace up their sleeve like a major release from any of the blockbusters like IJ, SW, LOTR, that would have been a serious counter-punch. As is, it's pretty darn weak.

I'm glad this event shook Fox/MGM loose, but like someone else implied, I'll believe it when I see it.

ha ha...

hd-dvd burners should be available soon, and we'll see pirate hd copies of most of those movies on ebay before fox gets around to releasing anything.

http://http://www.dvdtown.com/news/fox-and-mgm-gets-back-in-the-blu-ray-game/4679
Only a surprise because the announcement came the same day.

Man, if this is a "counter-punch", it's the equivalent of my 10 year old daughter blowing a kiss, compared to Paramount/DW's overhand right from vintage mike tyson.

FYI, for all who visit this thread...I opened this thread first on the HD-DVD forum to begin/invite discussion of the interesting announcements made today that greatly affect both camps. As you can read, there were some responders who made posts that are not in keeping with the spirit in which the thread was created. The moderator has seen fit, for what reason I cannot imagine to move it to the Blu-ray Software forum. I could understand it being moved to the HD Media section. This thread is not about specific software. It's about this announcement relative to the other news today, and its impact on us all.

So, as the initial author/initiator, I apologize if any of the above posts are antagonistic. Please ignore them and post your thoughts on the subject...regardless of the forum in which it appears.

honestly i dont believe the fox announcement has much of an impact on blu-ray. it's pretty much just some damage control. these are titles we were supposed to have long ago, to have them announce this now in the wake of Paramount jumping ship to me is insult to injury.

if fox had been releasing titles all along, the sales numbers gap between Blu-ray and HD-DVD would have been noticeably larger than the recently reported 65/35. the amount of titles available would also have been different and lean farther toward blu-ray's favor.

with paramount's move the dominoes could fall the opposite way if warner, who obviously favors hd-dvd over blu-ray, reverts back to exclusive support for HD-DVD and we'd lose Batman Begins and Matrix in addition to big-name titles like Harry Potter series.

so it looks like Warner and New Line, who has yet to release a title but holds the rights to LoTR, are the only notable studios still neutral. we still have to see if Weinstein is indeed going neutral as was rumored before that they'd start releasing on both formats starting with Grindhouse.

as a BD supporter Paramount's announcement is a huge blow for me even tho Transformers is really the only title i will sorely miss. but this is a title i have been anticipating to get on blu-ray ever since watching it in the theaters. but what really hit me hard is the fact that now there's no foreseeable end to this format war.

i don't care if hd-dvd becomes the dominant format, as long as one format becomes the only format. until then, there are a lot of titles i'd normally would have bought but no longer will. it'll be must-have titles for now until one format can emerge as the victor or every player available can play both formats ala DVD+-R drives.

Um, some nice titles, but most I wouldn't bother with. I see 3, no 4 counting Die Hard4 ( and the DH collection) I might buy if I had the blues.

What eases the sting is a good number of these will eventually find there way here on HD through the European pipeline
I wonder if Blu picked up from Fox as many as they lost from Paramount today
FOX planed releases are:
Die Hard 4
FF Silver Surfer (along with four day & date BD/DVD new theatrical releases from MGM )

October 2 - 'Master & Commander,' 'The Day After Tomorrow'
October 9 - 'From Hell,' 'The Fly (1986)', 'Edward Scissorhands,' '28 Days Later,' 'RoboCop,' 'The Amityville Horror (1979)'
November 6 - 'Battle of Britain,' 'A Bridge Too Far'
November 13 - 'I, Robot'
December 4 - 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith,' 'Independence Day,' 'Cast Away,' 'Ronin'

and the whole Die hard trilogy and Prison Break some time.

still over a month until they start producing HD disks again..

It would have been nice on Paramount behalf if they had announced some exclusive titles to the HD DVD camp today like what Fox/MGM did earlier. I guess we'll just have to wait.

Seriously, though - Red Dawn?

It doesn't look all that good on the recent DVD release; I can't imagine it will look too hot on BD.

They're MGM; if they had announced North by Northwest or It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, I'd think they were more serious about things.

As far as Fox, why not all past seasons of 24? They're already in HD.

Or they could have announced The Simpsons Movie…

Fox had better lower their MSRP and start putting some effort into their releases.

If it's the same MSRP as before with MPEG-2 and absolutely no extras then it will be like they never came back at all.

Dan

Fox had better lower their MSRP and start putting some effort into their releases.

If it's the same MSRP as before with MPEG-2 and absolutely no extras then it will be like they never came back at all.I agree, they need to lower MSRP, add more value. Still, since they have been mysteriously absent since Feb or so, it's interesting that they picked today to announce a return (which does appear as damage control, maybe, but it's still good news for the BD side).

Certainly not the kind of news the Paramount/DWA announcement was, though.

I agree, they need to lower MSRP, add more value. Still, since they have been mysteriously absent since Feb or so, it's interesting that they picked today to announce a return (which does appear as damage control, maybe, but it's still good news for the BD side).

Certainly not the kind of news the Paramount/DWA announcement was, though.
Yes... and no.

The announcement of the Die Hard series coming to BD is certainly one of the "awaited titles" that would have, before the Paramount announcement, made fence sitters willing to jump in.

It remains to be seen if it will still have that effect or not, but it's certainly (along with Close Encounters and the Pixar films) going to be one of the highest profile BR releases of the fall.

Yes... and no.

It remains to be seen if it will still have that effect or not, but it's certainly (along with Close Encounters and the Pixar films) going to be one of the highest profile BR releases of the fall.

One half of me says Enigma is right and the other says you are right :confused:. How much will this really affect me ? Die Hard and Pixar films are looking real sweet right now. I really was looking forward to Top Gun, but I will get over it. I can wait 18 months for this issue to get resolved.

/Blu-ray all the way
/One format to rule them all

I'll definitely be picking up I, Robot and Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Independence Day and Cast Away. Anyone know when the DH set will be released? The actual set isn't even on the Fox list...

You see? That's the spirit of competition for you. If it weren't for HD DVD, this move would have taken much longer. Long live both formats!!!

Dude, seriously.

THAT IS THE ONE THING THAT HAS MADE THIS EXPERIENCE SO RAPID AND FULL OF COMPETITION!

Bring on the dual format players cheaper please so that we can have two sides duke it out to bring us the two best formats on the PLANET right now for consumers.

I'm loving it. Format Neutral. :cool:

Cliff

I'll definitely be picking up I, Robot and Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Independence Day and Cast Away. Anyone know when the DH set will be released? The actual set isn't even on the Fox list...

Those are some most excellent films. Looking foward to getting them myself. :D

Cliff

So how is this a counter punch, when all they are doing is remaining exclusvie in their, uh...exclusivity?

BD loses a studio or four and gains one!

How about BD looses 1 and gains Universal exclusively and Fox... Sounds better to me...