I just got home to find that my contact at Universal has sent my a copy of the Heroes boxset. The boxset is VERY nicely done with a comic book like feel to it.

The boxset is about 2" thick and the inside unfolds into 7 separate HD-DVD discs.

Heroes - Season 1
Picture Quality - 3.75/5
Audio Quality - 4.5/5
Special Features - 4.5/5
Overall - 4/5

Comments: This boxset is very nicely done in-terms of packaging. This set comes in a nice cardboard holder an an insert which holds all 7 HD-DVD discs and they unfold in a comic book-like manner. The PQ of this release was average. The image showed great detail and accurate colors. I was however surprised at the amount of grain. The grain is abundant. I do not recall seeing this much grain while watching these episodes on NBC HD this past television season. With the excessive grain came a slightly soft picture. I also noticed a bit of EE during certain objects in bright scenes. On disc one when Jessica and her son arrive at her home, the halo's around the windows of the home are very evident. The SQ of this release is excellent. It makes excellent use of the Center Channel and Surrounds and the LFE is used to perfection throughout. This release also has some interesting U-Control features which fans of Special Features should enjoy. If you are a fan of this series, I will recommend this purchase. If you have never seen this series, please rent first as the PQ is not reference.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7946/heroes1za9.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7559/heroes2qh1.jpg

~Josh

I hate you Josh.:D

Awesome! Can't wait for your review... :)

And already up and sold in the marketplace. Your contact would be ashamed of you...


;)

Awesome! Mine is pre-ordered!

Awesome! Can't wait for your review...
Don't hold your breath...
already up and sold in the marketplace.

And already up and sold in the marketplace. Your contact would be ashamed of you...


;)

His contact at Universal is a fool for giving him all of these free HD DVDs. He receives them, writes a single paragraph that is often misleading, and then sells them in the AVS marketplace. But hey, I can't blame Josh for taking advantage of the situation to make some money with little work.

His contact at Universal is a fool for giving him all of these free HD DVDs. He receives them, writes a single paragraph that is often misleading, and then sells them in the AVS marketplace. But hey, I can't blame Josh for taking advantage of the situation to make some money with little work.

Sad isn't it. Some of us would love to get movies earlier than the street date.

And already up and sold in the marketplace. Your contact would be ashamed of you...


;)

Actually I am allowed to do as I please with all my review copies of movies, with exception of one studio.

~Josh

His contact at Universal is a fool for giving him all of these free HD DVDs. He receives them, writes a single paragraph that is often misleading, and then sells them in the AVS marketplace. But hey, I can't blame Josh for taking advantage of the situation to make some money with little work.

You mean like "If you have never seen this series, please rent first as the PQ is not reference."

Why do I have the feeling if this was a BR exclusive we'd of seen a completely different set of "comments" on it?

Actually I am allowed to do as I please with all my review copies of movies, with exception of one studio.

~Josh

Is it a studio that starts with S and ends with Y?

You mean like "If you have never seen this series, please rent first as the PQ is not reference."

Why do I have the feeling if this was a BR exclusive we'd of seen a completely different set of "comments" on it?

Exactly.

Or his mention that Hot Fuzz's audio is average and "lacks envelopment or fullness."

Or his mention that Darkman has a dirty print and thus deserves two stars. Meanwhile, he spoke favorably of Crimson Tide on Blu-Ray and gave it a 5/5 for video quality. I own both, and Crimson Tide has more print dirt, white flecks, and other defects.

His contact at Universal is a fool for giving him all of these free HD DVDs. He receives them, writes a single paragraph that is often misleading, and then sells them in the AVS marketplace. But hey, I can't blame Josh for taking advantage of the situation to make some money with little work.

Is that the same contact who was telling him Universal would switch to BR last CES and then again the next ?

Is it a studio that starts with S and ends with Y?

No, it is a studio which begins with an F and ends in an X :)

~Josh

Heroes - Season 1
Picture Quality - 3.75/5
Audio Quality - 4.5/5
Special Features - 4.5/5
Overall - 4/5

~Josh

Thanks for the post, but I am sure you would understand if I make my own choice concerning PQ rating.

Is that the same contact who was telling him Universal would switch to BR last CES and then again the next ?

I have never said Universal would go dual-format at CES 2007. I said it would happen during CES 2008. I have since ammeded that statement to say Qtr 1, 2008.

~Josh

Exactly.

Or his mention that Hot Fuzz's audio is average and "lacks envelopment or fullness."



In my rating system (look at sig) the movie hot fuzz ranks a perfect 5 in my book... unless your sub is the lesser and cant handle the heavy bass but mine has no problems :D

Or his mention that Darkman has a dirty print and thus deserves two stars. Meanwhile, he spoke favorably of Crimson Tide on Blu-Ray and gave it a 5/5 for video quality. I own both, and Crimson Tide has more print dirt, white flecks, and other defects.

I posted pictures of the poor transfer of Darkman. Film debris and damage throughout. A major letdown for me.

~Josh

IGN Review

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/813/813943p1.html

Actually I am allowed to do as I please with all my review copies of movies, with exception of one studio.

~Josh

I would be pissed if I was giving you a film to review (which you didn't in this case as this is a TV series that you got today and already sold) and you turned and sold it prior to release date no less. And people wonder why pirating is a problem? :confused:

I could understand if you gave it away in a "read my review" contest or something on or after release, but selling it? That's like stealing! Good for FOX, but I'm sure you put those on ebay. ;) I'll have to give my Fox contact a call...

Take anything he says about HD DVD with several grains of salt.

You mean like "If you have never seen this series, please rent first as the PQ is not reference."

Why do I have the feeling if this was a BR exclusive we'd of seen a completely different set of "comments" on it?

Do not get me wrong, it is an overall nice presentation, it is just the PQ is full of heavy grain and the ocassional EE. I feel the grain leads to a bit of softness in the PQ.

Do you guys remember seeing a lot of grain on the NBC HD broadcasts of Heroes? I do not.

~Josh

let's not turn this into a pissing match. who cares what he does with the releases, or past reviews, or what side he favours.

if you know you don't agree with josh's reviews, don't read them.

I posted pictures of the poor transfer of Darkman. Film debris and damage throughout. I major letdown for me.

~Josh

Please, you chose select scenes that show defects anyone would expect from a movie of Darkman's age. I agree that I wish Universal cleaned it up, but don't deny that you have seen worse on both formats. Enemy of the State and Con Air are other examples of BDs with far more distracting print dirt.

IGN Review

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/813/813943p1.html

Well, what do you expect? A completely different review. WHY? Oh wait, because he had it for less than 5 hours before he sold it (which is quite comical that he sold it and pulled the thread from the marketplace). I'll never open one of his, "Look at me" threads again.

Hmm:
"That said, however, this 1080p transfer is essentially the same version that ran on NBC's HD channel throughout the 2006-2007 season and it's equally as pristine on this HD DVD set. With rich coloring, epic shot-construction (at least for TV), deep black levels, excellent polish, remarkable contrast and a general lack of noticeable grain or ghosting, any episode of Heroes is likely to look as good, if not better, than some of the movies currently available in the format. To anybody still uncertain, Heroes on HD DVD is an excellent example of how the high-def format can enrich the content of a show - from the show's Tim Sale artwork to its well-integrated effects. A top-notch transfer."
Score: 9 out of 10
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/813/813943p2.html

I'll have my copy next Wed. from amazon, 15% off.
You can get 5% off with coupon code tvguide5 I believe.

Well, what do you expect? A completely different review. WHY? Oh wait, because he had it for less than 5 hours before he sold it (which is quite comical that he sold it and pulled the thread from the marketplace). I'll never open one of his, "Look at me" threads again.

Please stop with the personal attack. You have been reported to the Mods. I watched a bit of each and every scene on all 7 discs to come to my score. If you can not see excessive grain in this release when you guys get this, you unfortunately have poor eye-sight.

~Josh

Well, what do you expect? A completely different review. WHY? Oh wait, because he had it for less than 5 hours before he sold it (which is quite comical that he sold it and pulled the thread from the marketplace). I'll never open one of his, "Look at me" threads again.

We virtually gave it the same scores. I was a little lower on my PQ score, yet a little higher on my AQ score. We had the same score for Special Features.

~Josh

Do you guys remember seeing a lot of grain on the NBC HD broadcasts of Heroes? I do not.

~JoshHow can you see grain in an overly compressed Mpeg2 broadcast?

I remember seeing grain too watching it in HD on a 92" Still it looked amazing. Cant wait for the HD-DVD

Please, you chose select scenes that show defects anyone would expect from a movie of Darkman's age. I agree that I wish Universal cleaned it up, but don't deny that you have seen worse on both formats. Enemy of the State and Con Air are other examples of BDs with far more distracting print dirt.

I never have denied I have seen worse on both formats. My gripe with Darkman was that they put the effort in to a TrueHD soundtrack, but left a completely debris littered transfer. It was a MAJOR letdown for me as I wanted this one to be solid. Age has nothing to do with it. "The Searchers" from WB, EOS.

~Josh

We virtually gave it the same scores. I was a little lower on my PQ score, yet a little higher on my AQ score. We had the same score for Special Features.

~Josh

So you're saying he needs glasses because he says it's virtually free of grain?

Please stop with the personal attack. You have been reported to the Mods. I watched a bit of each and every scene on all 7 discs to come to my score. If you can not see excessive grain in this release when you guys get this, you unfortunately have poor eye-sight.

~Josh

Thank you. I appreciate you reporting me. What the heck, I'll do the same for claiming I have poor eye-sight. ;) If you felt that was a personal attack...mmkay.

"a bit of each scene" is good for an entire review? I can't tell you how many times I've watched a movie where there was a scene or two that was grainy, or had a dark image, etc. Maybe you should clearly indicate what you reviewed as that should be what is rated...not the entire film/TV/etc.

I'd love to find out if there's excessive grain in the release, but ya know what? It's kinda not out yet to the public. :rolleyes:

No, it is a studio which begins with an F and ends in an X :)

~Josh

Serious Question: Why can't you sell Fox titles? Or can you say?
Not Serious: Yeah, but the last time you got a Fox Blu-Ray was like 6 months ago with Night at the Museum. :p

Thank you. I appreciate you reporting me. What the heck, I'll do the same for claiming I have poor eye-sight. ;) If you felt that was a personal attack...mmkay.

"a bit of each scene" is good for an entire review? I can't tell you how many times I've watched a movie where there was a scene or two that was grainy, or had a dark image, etc. Maybe you should clearly indicate what you reviewed as that should be what is rated...not the entire film/TV/etc.

So you think the reviewer from IGN watched every second of every episode today? By using your own logic it could artifically improve his rating of the PQ as he may have missed some of this releases shortcomings. How anyone could miss the grain though would be a mystery to me.

Chris, lets stop this debate until you have a copy for yourself so you can make an informed rating based on actually viewing this boxset. Sound fair?

~Josh

Serious Question: Why can't you sell Fox titles? Or can you say?
Not Serious: Yeah, but the last time you got a Fox Blu-Ray was like 6 months ago with Night at the Museum. :p

It is just their current policy. These studios and their PR firms switch their policies all the time regarding this subject.

~Josh

I cannot wait to receive this set! Almost here! I do think it was a missed opportunity to not include the online comics in the extras though. They were very well done.

Wow, I guess I should only rent things that don't have reference PQ from here on out. What a stupid way to end the review.

I cannot wait to receive this set! Almost here! I do think it was a missed opportunity to not include the online comics in the extras though. They were very well done.

Well they'd never be able to include all of them since new comics are constantly being added. I guess they could have included some of the better ones, but ah well, not really a big loss IMO.

Any predictions about studios switching sides, Josh?

I bet you can get the Paramount one right now since it's already happened.

lol fanboy review no thanks

So you think the reviewer from IGN watched every second of every episode today? By using your own logic it could artifically improve his rating of the PQ as he may have missed some of this releases shortcomings. How anyone could miss the grain though would be a mystery to me.

Chris, lets stop this debate until you have a copy for yourself so you can make an informed rating based on actually viewing this boxset. Sound fair?

~Josh

Well, this is all I'll say until I get mine in next week...

You are correct about my own logic. At least the reviewer on IGN didn't let the world know that he didn't watch the entire set. ;)

IGN Review

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/813/813943p1.html

Video and Presentation
Wherever you fall on the debate of whether Heroes is high-quality television or simply some second-rate comic-book retread - it is undoubtedly among the finest looking programs currently on the air. Whether you saw the season in standard or high-definition matters little. It's a well-shot show in any format.

That said, however, this 1080p transfer is essentially the same version that ran on NBC's HD channel throughout the 2006-2007 season and it's equally as pristine on this HD DVD set. With rich coloring, epic shot-construction (at least for TV), deep black levels, excellent polish, remarkable contrast and a general lack of noticeable grain or ghosting, any episode of Heroes is likely to look as good, if not better, than some of the movies currently available in the format. To anybody still uncertain, Heroes on HD DVD is an excellent example of how the high-def format can enrich the content of a show - from the show's Tim Sale artwork to its well-integrated effects. A top-notch transfer.

Score: 9 out of 10

The only thing you should expect from 'Beatofboy' is a lop sided review ;)
As you can see its alot better than 3.5

No spanish subtitles again, Universal is loosing sales and HD-DVD camp too :mad::mad::mad:

You are typing in english... why do you need Spanish subtitles? (No offense... it's a serious question)

You are typing in english... why do you need Spanish subtitles? (No offense... it's a serious question)

Well, i live in mexico city, and my family don't speak english, and here in mexico i know at least 60 friends that buy HD DVD's and BD's from amazon, and the titles that dont have spanish subtitles are not bought. :(:mad::(:mad:


Salu2

What's wrong with grain? Nothing.

EE and softness not directly attributed to intent are problems however.

Can't wait for mine to arrive.

I think I'll wait for the more trustworthy reviews from DVD Talk and HDD...

Guys we've been over this before. You know who Josh is.You know his format leanings. Don't get your panties in a bunch if you feel he is biased,you should be used to that now if you think that. No need to continue personally attacking the guy.

Well he "reviewed" a entire season of heroes in a couple of hours and sold it.

that last part shows a big disinterest.

I dealt with josh before and hes a good guy. I ordered a movie off him and there were some problems with the order and he was very helpful in fixing the problem. Much appreciated Josh though i still didnt get it but whatever :(

netflix has the film coming to me though today :)

I was however surprised at the amount of grain. The grain is abundant. I do not recall seeing this much grain while watching these episodes on NBC HD this past television season. With the excessive grain came a slightly soft picture. I also noticed a bit of EE during certain objects in bright scenes.


Weird.

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/813/813943p2.html

remarkable contrast and a general lack of noticeable grain or ghosting, any episode of Heroes is likely to look as good, if not better, than some of the movies currently available in the format.

I'm not sure what to think.

Weird.

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/813/813943p2.html



I'm not sure what to think.

Obviously when you look though blu glasses you see a different picture.

What type of display are you using Beatboy? What type of display was IGN using?

So, we have ANOTHER article from ANOTHER professional that give ANOTHER opposite review of beat's. This isn't the first time this has happened, so I can't say that I'm surprised. But since we're all entitled to our own opinion, beat will continue to defend himself and report posters for calling him out on it.

Let me see if I'm getting this right:

1) Josh reviews the seven-disc set of HEROES after fast-forwarding through a couple of the discs and decides the transfer is grainy and not up to par. Curiously, this is exactly the opposite of what another reviewer thinks.

2) Seconds after his review is posted, Josh unloads the pricey set on another AVS member

3) Meanwhile, on the Blu-ray forum, Josh is posting how Paramount's decision to go HD-DVD only signifies the death of all hi-def media and what a sad, sad day it is

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11355831#post11355831

Am I missing anything?

I'm not sure what to think.

beatboy has admitted freely that he's a BD supporter. Not neutral. Not unbiased. A BD supporter.

That tends to bring some baggage to his "reviews". The fact that he apparently blew through this set with 30-ish hours of material in a couple of hours and then sold it just reiterates the point.

I have a hard time valuing the opinion of someone that goes on a site to brag he has the HD-DVD/Blu before it's released only to pump his website and then sells the media. If he REALLY valued his job and the appearance of impropriety, then he would have contests for people to win the Media.
But that is just me...

The real shame is that when a legitimate HD DVD supporter starts a new thread to discuss this with people who aren't so biased against HD DVD that it completely blinds them to reality, the thread will be locked because this one already exists. It's a shame that the studios like Universal haven't figured out that he doesn't actually watch the HD DVD discs all the way through - he just skims through them, trashes them in his "reviews," and then sells them for a profit.

Anyone who takes beatboy's opinions seriously (for either format) deserves what they get. Reader beware.

man... what can be said... I think the other posters covered it already.

Bottom line, beatboy77 is doing what he always predictably does.

Looking forward to getting this set soon, I expect the PQ will be great.

Obviously when you look though blu glasses you see a different picture.

Thats because they are covered with the salt of the tears he shed from losing Paramount, its what is giving the grain look.

Thats because they are covered with the salt of the tears he shed from losing Paramount, its what is giving the grain look.

:D

"Contact"? Please, These things are in backrooms at all CE stores at this point. It is also leaking at many retail outlets.

I just got home to find that my contact at Universal has sent my a copy of the Heroes boxset. The boxset is VERY nicely done with a comic book like feel to it.

The boxset is about 2" thick and the inside unfolds into 7 separate HD-DVD discs.

Heroes - Season 1
Picture Quality - 3.75/5
Audio Quality - 4.5/5
Special Features - 4.5/5
Overall - 4/5

Comments: This boxset is very nicely done in-terms of packaging. This set comes in a nice cardboard holder an an insert which holds all 7 HD-DVD discs and they unfold in a comic book-like manner. The PQ of this release was average. The image showed great detail and accurate colors. I was however surprised at the amount of grain. The grain is abundant. I do not recall seeing this much grain while watching these episodes on NBC HD this past television season. With the excessive grain came a slightly soft picture. I also noticed a bit of EE during certain objects in bright scenes. On disc one when Jessica and her son arrive at her home, the halo's around the windows of the home are very evident. The SQ of this release is excellent. It makes excellent use of the Center Channel and Surrounds and the LFE is used to perfection throughout. This release also has some interesting U-Control features which fans of Special Features should enjoy. If you are a fan of this series, I will recommend this purchase. If you have never seen this series, please rent first as the PQ is not reference.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7946/heroes1za9.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7559/heroes2qh1.jpg

~Josh

lol fanboy review no thanks


All the signs point to this being a true statement!:D

Thats because they are covered with the salt of the tears he shed from losing Paramount, its what is giving the grain look.

No kidding. A review from a fanboy who can stil feel the sting of salt in the wound left by Paramount.

All the signs point to this being a true statement!:D

He said please rent first... well enough of the fanboy spin. I haven't seen Heroes and I've heard enough good things about it and just despite the "rent first" comment I am going to blind buy this TV series.

There were parts of the broadcast where there was a slight grain....but that is because that is the filmstock they used. If the transfer is sharp enough to translate the grain(which I believe appears mostly in the blue filtered scenes) then I'm there. I mean honestly if this is even equal to what I saw OTA on NBCHD than they have a winner. I wasn't the biggest fan of this show but I deff. have it down as a preorder. Now only if Blu could put out something as exciting as this release!

Can't wait to see his reviews of transformers and shrek, granny and soft with edge enhancement. 3/5 for PQ.

hehe I for one didn't care for Transformers but I bet it will look awesome on HD-DVD. The print I saw in the theatre had slight grain. But guess what....film is textured with grain. It's like a canvas.

"Contact"? Please, These things are in backrooms at all CE stores at this point. It is also leaking at many retail outlets.


I'll say. I just picked one up in the East Village!!! :)

Can't wait to start watching tonight.

I thought the PQ of the episodes improved as the season went along. Some of the earlier episodes looked very mediocre through my cable-provider. Macroblocking was especially bad in certain scenes, a problem I expect should be non-existent on the HD-DVD set.

I just got home to find that my contact at Universal has sent my a copy of the Heroes boxset. The boxset is VERY nicely done with a comic book like feel to it.

The boxset is about 2" thick and the inside unfolds into 7 separate HD-DVD discs.

Heroes - Season 1
Picture Quality - 3.75/5
Audio Quality - 4.5/5
Special Features - 4.5/5
Overall - 4/5

Comments: This boxset is very nicely done in-terms of packaging. This set comes in a nice cardboard holder an an insert which holds all 7 HD-DVD discs and they unfold in a comic book-like manner. The PQ of this release was average. The image showed great detail and accurate colors. I was however surprised at the amount of grain. The grain is abundant. I do not recall seeing this much grain while watching these episodes on NBC HD this past television season. With the excessive grain came a slightly soft picture. I also noticed a bit of EE during certain objects in bright scenes. On disc one when Jessica and her son arrive at her home, the halo's around the windows of the home are very evident. The SQ of this release is excellent. It makes excellent use of the Center Channel and Surrounds and the LFE is used to perfection throughout. This release also has some interesting U-Control features which fans of Special Features should enjoy. If you are a fan of this series, I will recommend this purchase. If you have never seen this series, please rent first as the PQ is not reference.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7946/heroes1za9.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7559/heroes2qh1.jpg

~Josh

Beware Beatboys reviews, there are already reviews coming out COMPLETELY different than his.

Perhaps ISF calibration needed?


From IGN

1080p transfer ... deep black levels, excellent polish, remarkable contrast and a general lack of noticeable grain or ghosting, any episode of Heroes is likely to look as good, if not better, than some of the movies currently available in the format. To anybody still uncertain, Heroes on HD DVD is an excellent example of how the high-def format can enrich the content of a show - from the show's Tim Sale artwork to its well-integrated effects. A top-notch transfer.

Score: 9 out of 10

How is it "soft" and sharpened with EE at the same time??????

Also, please reply to DNice's comment if you can! Thanks.

So, we have ANOTHER article from ANOTHER professional that give ANOTHER opposite review of beat's. This isn't the first time this has happened, so I can't say that I'm surprised. But since we're all entitled to our own opinion, beat will continue to defend himself and report posters for calling him out on it.

You really consider him a professional reveiwer??? LMAO!!! Just to let you in it really isn't that special or a big deal what he does. What happened to that BIG NEWS that never surface a few month's ago. These fanbois crack me up, at least be neutral in the reviews.

How can you see grain in an overly compressed Mpeg2 broadcast?

Please don't tell me you expect an answer to that question???

Wait a minute. Reading through this thread no one has brought up a VERY important point. Read the back of the Heroes box carefully and you will see no mention of Dolby TruHD. :(

I hope this was just a printing omision as I was certain that this set would come with a THD track.

Oh SWEET the PiP commentaries are there.. I watched a few of them on the nbc.com site and I was hoping they'd be included on the HDDVD...

Wait a minute. Reading through this thread no one has brought up a VERY important point. Read the back of the Heroes box carefully and you will see no mention of Dolby TruHD. :(

I hope this was just a printing omision as I was certain that this set would come with a THD track.

It was DD+.

Maybe some of you are unaware, but people who have hooked into the gravy train provided by studios and CE companies get free or heavily discounted stuff all of the time.
It's called "the accommodation".
In Josh's defense, what he is doing is no different than any other person who gets stuff gratis.
When you see a reviewer say "I loved xyzxy so much, I bought'em!!", don't get too impressed. They were either free or bought for pence on the dollar.
That said, regardless of what HDM format I favor, I wouldn't give 2 squirts for any of beatboy's "reviews".
C'mon, the discs were still warm from the 8x fast-forwarding when he shipped em.
Nice, in-depth evalution.
Thanks for your hard work. :rolleyes:
If you don't want to be treated like a joke don't act like one.

At times I disagree with most web reviewers but I do know some that I trust to give an unbiased accounting of the PQ\AQ.

Please don't tell me you expect an answer to that question???One can try :D

Look at this, HidefDigest gives Heroes a lower PQ Score then me, they gave it a 3/5 as compared to my 3.75/5, they also gave it a much lower AQ score of 3/5 as compared to my 4.5/5.

I am now accepting appologies via PM :)

~Josh

Regardless of which side Beatboy "favors," he still owns and acknowledges HD DVD. I appreciate that he at least took the time to recognize and post this release.

People need to take his "INSIDER INFO" with a grain of salt, but get off his back when he makes a valid contribution. GOOD GRIEF!

Thanks for the review, I tend to believe the PQ assessment. Many of the PQ reviews I see people give in this forum are WAY TOO HIGH.

Look at this, HidefDigest gives Heroes a lower PQ Score then me, they gave it a 3/5 as compared to my 3.75/5, they also gave it a much lower AQ score of 3/5 as compared to my 4.5/5.

I am now accepting appologies via PM :)

~Josh

Sure. When you start giving appologies for all the BS you've posted about HD-DVD we will start sending ours. :rolleyes: They also point out in their review that it looks superior to the HD broadcast of the show.

To be accurate the PQ rating on HDD is 3.5/5, not 3/5. Still lower though, and disappointing to hear given the high profile nature of the release.

I'll chime in with my review, published 2 days ago:

http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-review.php?id=540

Got mine in about 5 minutes ago(does a happy dance).See ya all later with my mini-review.:)

I'll chime in with my review, published 2 days ago:

http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-review.php?id=540

I like your choice of pictures for the review.:D

I'll chime in with my review, published 2 days ago:

http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-review.php?id=540

Based on this review, the one on HighDefDigest, as well as BeatBoy's, it seems to be a consistent score of 7-8/10 as far as PQ. All of them mention the grain.

I don't think beatboy is spitting on it as much as some of you may want to think.

maybe 2nd season will look significantly better due to higher budget, happened with Weeds.

Based on this review, the one on HighDefDigest, as well as BeatBoy's, it seems to be a consistent score of 7-8/10 as far as PQ. All of them mention the grain.

I don't think beatboy is spitting on it as much as some of you may want to think.

How does the story go about crying wolf? I did notice the difference between Beatboys review and the others being that Beatboy said the HD televised version was better(as he remembers) where the other reviews mentioned the HD-DVD version being better. High-Def digest even said it was superior to the HD broadcast. The problem with everything from Beatboy on HD-DVD is that its almost always tainted with a little jab such as this ones jab that the HD broadcast was better. Maybe he is 100% on the level with this review but all these people in this thread have serious doubts and they are well founded.

Looking good!! Cant wait to get mine!:D

Digital Audio Video's Review

"I've seen this show broadcast in HD. It looked great on television, but there is simply no way that can match up to the presentation we get in this box set. Its simply breathtaking, and beyond anything that could be accomplished on even the finest high definition television display"

Look at this, HidefDigest gives Heroes a lower PQ Score then me, they gave it a 3/5 as compared to my 3.75/5, they also gave it a much lower AQ score of 3/5 as compared to my 4.5/5.
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The point is not what the numbers are, the point is that the other reviewers actually watched the show instead of FFing through it
They also are format agnostic and don't dis a disc because it's on one format or the other UNLESS there are differences.

Wow selling review copies after they are reviewed? What kind of ethical crack is he smoking?

Home Theater Spot's review is up. This disc set is David Vaughn's first time viewing the show, and he only watched six episodes, but I like that because he didn't have any expectations going in to influence his review. HINT: It scored well.

http://www.***************.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?fid/226/tid/138340/

Just bought this from Amazon as a blind buy. Not a big fan of most Television Series and didn't catch it on air but there's enough buzz on it that i think i will enjoy it.

Wow selling review copies after they are reviewed? What kind of ethical crack is he smoking?

Because they are not "review copies". He is getting them early from a buddy who works in a CE store. Why would a studio provide him with a review copy? He offers no professional objective. Nor can he provide an in-depth review. He just likes to let people know he got it early.;)

I mean why would the studios send review copies to a guy that runs a site that ranks 3,657,313 on alexa? Just an honest question. Cause I'd love to get some free discs to sell as well.

I wanted to watch Heroes while it was on during the season. I missed the first few episodes, so I never wanted to start watching it in the middle of the first season. When I heard that it was coming to HD-DVD I really wanted to buy it, but I had curtailed my purchases of both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs because of the format war. With the Paramount/Dreamworks announcement, I have decided to start buying HD-DVD's again. I just bought 300 and preordered Heroes. Transformers is probably next.

The Look and Sound of Perfect (http://thelookandsoundofperfect.com/) put up a trailer for Heroes. It shows off some of the HD DVD features.

94mb 1440x810:
http://gspsf.vo.llnwd.net/o10/HEROES_Season1_COMICON_TRAILER_REV-HD.wmv

15mb 480x360:
http://gspsf.vo.llnwd.net/o10/HEROES_Season1_COMICON_Trailer_REV-SD.wmv

Heroes also had a good review from Home Theater Forum.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/showthread.php?t=261481

Looks like beatboy's review is off.

Looks like beatboy's review is off.

No way...that can't be! :rolleyes:

Just received my Email from Amazon that Heroes has been shipped (delivery expected on or before September 5th):)

Not bad considering I preordered only yesterday and chose free shipping.

This set is going to be off the chain. I just watched the pilot episode (free in HD if you have xbox live) and the series is sick. Worth a blind buy IMO. I've only seen 2 episodes and I'm completely sold.

preordered about a week ago, used the prime overnight, received it today at about 2pm

package looks great, can't wait to watch (its in line behind blades of glory! )
:cool:

Does it have the sneak peak at the new bionic woman like the sd dvd set sticker promotes?

Actually I think Beatboys review is not too bad. There are definitely scenes full of distracting grain, but they do not take away from the overall experience to much. The scenes that are clean (ie when Hiro saves the Japanese school girl) look as fantastic as anything released on HD DVD to this point. The audio is a big improvement over the OTA broadcasts, but I still wish we would have gotten THD. The special features are just sick, this one disc has sold me on all the interactive features possible with HD DVD. The replay value is TREMENDOUS. I've always been a "give me the best movie and screw the special features" type of guy, but this one disc has changed my perception.

Overall:
Show Quality: 5/5
PQ: 4.25/5
AQ: 4/5
Special Features: 5/5
Overall: 4.75/5

Watched the first two episodes last night, very excited about this show. I don't keep up with prime-time tv, but I'm glad I did a blind-buy here.

I thought the PQ was average personally, but definitely the best I've ever seen a tv show look (don't have HD cable or sat). Sometimes it looks like SD, sometimes the detail is amazing. But the special features are really cool, and I'm not usually big on extras. This set makes you very excited about the capabilities of HD DVDs.

I can try and take some screenshots tonight if anybody wants them.

Curious to know if anyone has watched both versions (DVD vs. HD-DVD)?

Is it worth spending $33 more dollars for the HD-DVD version?

Thanks.

EDIT: Actually, according to the review over at High Def Digest, the answer is "yes" if you like extras which I do. :)

Just got my copy from Amazon and am very impressed with the packaging. The comic drawings look great and the descriptions of each episode and extras of each disc on the folds is very well designed. 16 hours of content :eek: I don't have time for all the entertainment I have already. Whatever, blind-buy for me and I can't wait to get into the series. Now why won't I be getting The Office in HD next week Universal ?:rolleyes:

Agreed! Bring us The Office on HD-DVD, or "God Beer Me Strength"...

Agreed. This is a solid 4/5 release (fantastic show, good PQ but tends to be slightly inconsistent, decent audio, awesome extras, and nice packaging).

As I've stated before.. the beginning of this series was very good, but after the hiatus it wasn't the same show. It seemed like the show got some new writers. Plus the season finale was just horrible.

I wouldn't mind watching the first couple of episodes on HD DVD(if I had the player), but once it gets to the remaining last episodes.. count me out.

Home Theater Spot's review is up. This disc set is David Vaughn's first time viewing the show, and he only watched six episodes, but I like that because he didn't have any expectations going in to influence his review. HINT: It scored well.

http://www.***************.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?fid/226/tid/138340/


I will be doing a follow-up review as well tomorrow since I have now watched all but one episode (finale) and have used most of the bonus features on the disc. My feelings on the set haven't changed much though other than the video score will probably go down a little...some of the episodes have some compression issues, but for the most part, this is THE BEST TV show I have ever reviewed on either DVD, HD DVD or BD (although I haven't done one of these yet) in the overall content offered on the bonus features...simply fantastic. Also, the show itself is great too, which certainly helps!

Heroes also had a good review from Home Theater Forum.

Thanks for the linkage =)

i'm not sure if this has been asked before. My wife and i watched the pilot last night. Did anyone else notice that the "73 minute" premiere is 53 minutes long? Am i missing something? :)

I really wanted to pick this up but the whole lack of spanish subtitles on almost everything universal has left a really bad taste in my mouth. It was one of the reasons I really wanted to get into HD cause everything had spanish subtitles. I know my wife understand most english it but It really is different when she can read it in her own language.

i'm not sure if this has been asked before. My wife and i watched the pilot last night. Did anyone else notice that the "73 minute" premiere is 53 minutes long? Am i missing something? :)

Its two different cuts. the 73 minute option is in the Extras area. Its like the Joe Smith cut.

i'm not sure if this has been asked before. My wife and i watched the pilot last night. Did anyone else notice that the "73 minute" premiere is 53 minutes long? Am i missing something? :)

yeah, you actually have to SELECT the option of watching it, is on the extras menu of that disc

You are typing in english... why do you need Spanish subtitles? (No offense... it's a serious question)

Although my wife is native spanish speaking, she also speaks english and french. But watching a movie or TV-show that is not spoken in your native language can be difficult because of the accents and speed they actors are speaking. For that, it is nice to have subtitles in your native languages.

I only buy BR or HD (DVD before) when they have Spanish subtitles because I like to watch a movie together and I want her to enjoy the experience too

Cheers

Filip

I agree, also, it is very stupid to put spanish subs on the dvd version and not the HD, especially when you think about. I mean, HD has no region code, so you can order it from latin america or spain. Universal has been dumping spanish subs for a LONG time now and it's really stupid policy if you ask me. There a lot of spanish speakers in the US, and the import market that your'e loosing there too is also absurd to let it go to waste.

Curious to know if anyone has watched both versions (DVD vs. HD-DVD)?

Is it worth spending $33 more dollars for the HD-DVD version?

Thanks.

EDIT: Actually, according to the review over at High Def Digest, the answer is "yes" if you like extras which I do. :)

I struggled with whether or not i should buy the HD DVD version or just rent the SD Version... I knew I'd never watch the show again after getting through it the first time, and I didn't really care about the extras... So if i bought the HD version (didn't want to rent it because I doubted i could get through the whole thing with shipping windows before the next season started) I would sell it...

Anyways, I decided to go with renting the SD version to save the $$$, and after watching the first episode last night, I was pleasantly suprised with the quality of it upconversion on my A2... For me, I made the correct decision...

yeah, you actually have to SELECT the option of watching it, is on the extras menu of that disc

For those who have watched both, which one is better in your opinon?