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Amiable-Akuma 08-20-07, 11:01 PM Just bought into BD big after being a big HD DVD supporter since launch and then selling all my HD DVD stuff off a few months ago. Bought BD thinking it would help in the war and bring about volume status to high-def.
Anyway, whether the Paramount/etc move will prolong the war or not - please, somebody remind me why BD is the better format to still support exclusively, why BD is still better in general, and why BD will still eventually have a complete victory.
Thanks, my stomach is too weak for all this stuff...
Gordon Shumway 08-20-07, 11:03 PM UGH....not ANOTHER "why is one better than the other" thread....just do a search and I'm sure you'll find what ya need.
I suggest selling all of your Blu-ray stuff and just sticking with DVD!
Nics1246 08-20-07, 11:04 PM It all comes down to movie selection preference. PQ and AQ are pretty even.
ryoohki 08-20-07, 11:08 PM Catalog Paramount title have made a lot of money and new release either.. sure Transformers and Shrek will.. but you're not scoring a lot with catalogs titles... unless it's big gun like Indiana Jones (Speilberg, won't happen) and the like...
We'll see how they fare vs BluRay exclusive this winter..
AaronSCH 08-20-07, 11:10 PM I suggest selling all of your Blu-ray stuff and just sticking with DVD!
Personally, I wish I had never sold off my DVD collection and wish I had never bought into high definition so soon.
I have about 10 Blu-Rays and about 5 HD-DVDs, I will only buy now if I really need the movie in HD... Not sure, but as far as Paramount goes I will buy into HD-DVD only if Blu-Ray takes a major dump and I don't see this happening for some time.... In fact I be they drop the price of the 80gig PS3....
Blumoon 08-20-07, 11:18 PM Just bought into BD big after being a big HD DVD supporter since launch and then selling all my HD DVD stuff off a few months ago. Bought BD thinking it would help in the war and bring about volume status to high-def.
Anyway, whether the Paramount/etc move will prolong the war or not - please, somebody remind me why BD is the better format to still support exclusively, why BD is still better in general, and why BD will still eventually have a complete victory.
Thanks, my stomach is too weak for all this stuff...
http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/graphs/salesrank-1-1-recent30.jpg
If you really need something... here you go... HD DVD cant muster up crapolla for sales. Buying exclusivity is nothing new, its a regular part of business.
Frankly, too little too late on the HD DVD side. The format still gains nothing as paramount has always released on HD DVD.
restart 08-20-07, 11:22 PM As long as BD keeps outselling HD your BD investment is safe. Just check the Nielsen's or amazon rankings to feel a lot better. :)
DarkAdept 08-20-07, 11:23 PM Thanks, my stomach is too weak for all this stuff...
Not taking everything too seriously is pretty critical to your ongoing happiness at this point. Don't treat it as an investment. Don't think of it as placing a bet. It has to be worthwhile to you to have the ability to play high-definition content NOW regardless of what the future holds, because there's no such thing as a guarantee right now.
MySassyGirl 08-21-07, 12:00 AM Oh gosh...hmmm...maybe just return your new BD if possible. If I have to do it all again, i wish I didn't buy a HD-DVD in the first place. BD is the way to go. Sony will be around for a long time. Your BD is only a waste if Sony disappear from the face of the earth. By then, you're probably dead. Have you seen the list of BD? What's there to worry?
k1davis 08-21-07, 12:04 AM My bet is on combo players. I'd consider selling any exclusive player now - BD or HD-DVD, unless it's a PS3 that you want for the other things the PS3 does.
OTOH, if we don't see some decently priced combo players at least announced soon, then I'm done with HDM until they get thier act together.
This is not cool at all.
ToEhrIsHuman 08-21-07, 12:12 AM I hear VHS is making a big comeback. Recently it was reported VHS was outselling both Blu-ray and HD DVD. Perhaps you should consider that format. :rolleyes:
RudyMeister 08-21-07, 12:13 AM Catalog Paramount title have made a lot of money and new release either.. sure Transformers and Shrek will.. but you're not scoring a lot with catalogs titles... unless it's big gun like Indiana Jones (Speilberg, won't happen) and the like...
We'll see how they fare vs BluRay exclusive this winter..
Saving Private Ryan
Transformers
The Ten Commandments
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The Sum of All Fears
Gladiator
War of the Worlds
ToEhrIsHuman 08-21-07, 12:17 AM Saving Private Ryan
Transformers
The Ten Commandments
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The Sum of All Fears
Gladiator
War of the Worlds
Last time I checked, both 'Saving Private Ryan' and 'War of the Worlds' were directed by Steven Spielberg (unless you mean the original 'WOTW').
MSmith83 08-21-07, 12:18 AM Not taking everything too seriously is pretty critical to your ongoing happiness at this point. Don't treat it as an investment. Don't think of it as placing a bet. It has to be worthwhile to you to have the ability to play high-definition content NOW regardless of what the future holds, because there's no such thing as a guarantee right now.
Well said. Both formats are getting excellent titles in the foreseeable future, just as there are many excellent titles for both formats in the present. Nothing lasts forever, so enjoy what you have now. After all, we buy into these things for immediate entertainment, and people spend far more money on other unnecessary things that last only a day.
I never would have said that regarding D-Theater, but Blu-Ray and HD DVD are already far more worthwhile products in my opinion.
Now OP, you can rest your pretty little head knowing that everything will be alright. :D
Kingram 08-21-07, 12:24 AM Man-up!!
ToEhrIsHuman 08-21-07, 12:30 AM Man-up!!
Interesting you would say that as 'Brokeback Mountain' was distributed by Universal and is only available on HD DVD.
ryoohki 08-21-07, 12:33 AM Saving Private Ryan
Transformers
The Ten Commandments
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The Sum of All Fears
Gladiator
War of the Worlds
TF, of course. Don't care about ten commandments, nor Star Trek, Sum of all Fears and Gladiator is very nice... WOTW(new version) is Steven Speilberg so no release...
ryoohki 08-21-07, 12:35 AM Btw the only release that might get a blimp on the radar is Shrek 3 and TF... all the other are gonna pop on the top 10.. 1 time.. 2 time top... New release are the key here..
Dan Hitchman 08-21-07, 02:38 AM Well, one thing is great about this: I will only be buying quality imports of Paramount titles that really, really interest me. Imports are pricey. So, I won't be buying as many titles.
My pocketbook thanks you, Paramount. You rat bastards! :D
Demayor 08-21-07, 03:00 AM Interesting you would say that as 'Brokeback Mountain' was distributed by Universal and is only available on HD DVD.
LOL That ^ made me chuckle.
Anyways. I've been following this "war" lately. This news is not shocking at all. The format war is becoming just like the console war. It's been years and they are still fighting. I beleive the same will happen to HDM. Some studios will go neutral down the line and others will remain exclusive. In the end if the movie we want is not in the format we own/prefer, we'll just have to go with DVD.
I personally support BD and as someone said, the wallet talks a lot. Today I bought a few BD from amazon :) I can't wait to get them.
CraigCooper 08-21-07, 04:21 AM Blu-ray isn't going anywhere because of this news. It is very big news though. The first of the studios going exclusive, wow just wow. I own both formats and have been saying for a while now, this thing ain't no where near over. I also believe both can co-exist quite happily. I have bought about 50-50 BD to HD-Dvd disks and are very happy with the quality of both formats. I do believe in the future we will see more of this, studios changing back and forth. I say High Definition is the winner and how can that be bad.
danieledmunds 08-21-07, 04:34 AM I wouldn't worry, I think the studios are trying to split the market up. This month Paramount goes HD DVD next month Weinstein goes Blu Ray etc etc. Just looks like you Blu blokes will have to accept a bit of importing, big deal.
CraigCooper 08-21-07, 04:41 AM I wouldn't worry, I think the studios are trying to split the market up. This month Paramount goes HD DVD next month Weinstein goes Blu Ray etc etc. Just looks like you Blu blokes will have to accept a bit of importing, big deal.
Agreed, most of my collection ( BD and HD-Dvd ) are imports.
jason10mm 08-21-07, 08:36 AM I would have a hard time seeing any HD-DVD studios going over if the HD-DVD group is willing to pay out so much to get a neutral studio to be exclusive. I'm sure Warner wanted too much and Disney and Fox have no experience with HD-DVD, so they would be too expensive as well. Perhaps Weinstein will make some noise, hoping for a similar pay-out, but I doubt they are making much off of Hd-DVD, much less expect to make any money off of Blu-ray. Besides, aside from Grindhouse, what do they have that will make a difference this holiday?
This is most likely a timed exclusivity, designed to give HD-DVD enough of a boost to stay alive in the "perception" war until enough stand-alones can be sold to defeat the PS3 edge. This is no different than MS or Sony paying for game exclusivity to move their consoles, which in turn attracts other developers and positive press.
I doubt any studio will be reconsidering their stance until they can expect to make 5-10 million from a movie. They know HD is chump change at this point and they know that the "losing" side will eventually repurtchase all their stuff on the new format anyway, so why spend all the money switching now? A year from now the pot will be larger, the tech will be cheaper, and the strategy will be clearer.
At this point Warner is the only one having to work with both technologies, so I expect they will be the ones to make any new move, independent of another large payout.
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