http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/michael-bay-angry-at-paramounts-dumping-of-blu+ray-291749.php

The big news is that he's now refusing to helm Transformers 2 because of it.

Baby.

Xphyle

I think he should get over himself - who the hell is he anyway? Does he think he's Steven? HD DVD is now playing hardball, no different then Sony has been doing all along....tuff cookies as they say, deal with it, Mr Bay.

I am sure he will get over it

It does make for an interesting stance. Will he now make films only for Warner since they are the only "progressive" studio remaining? Or will he go to Sony or Fox out of spite?

Or, like Paramount, will he go where the $$$ is? Which may be back at Paramount after eating some crow...

Directors and producers can be such whiners and cry babies...

shinksma

I think he should get over himself - who the hell is he anyway? Does he think he's Steven? HD DVD is now playing hardball, no different then Sony has been doing all along....tuff cookies as they say, deal with it, Mr Bay.

Kind a funny how the torch light of the HD-DVD fans isn´t pleased :-)

Michael Bay is concerned with one thing, making money. He supports that theory in every movie he makes, where a giant explosion followed by a holiday release date equals big box office numbers.

Bay figured that if his movies were released on both formats, it'd sell more copies and make him more money. I don't think he really cares which format is which. If VHS still sold a lot of movies, he'd want it released on that as well.

I think he should get over himself - who the hell is he anyway? Does he think he's Steven? HD DVD is now playing hardball, no different then Sony has been doing all along....tuff cookies as they say, deal with it, Mr Bay.


Hardball?

More like a last ditch attempt to prolong this format war for another 18 months, meanwhile burning bridges with many industry big hitters.

Blu-ray believed they could cruise over the finish line, now they'll go all guns blazing.

With these kind of action you will hopefully start seeing more producers and directors demanding equal access to their movies be it BD or HD DVD maybe even put in their contracts.Would be nice to demand all studio's put it out in BD and HD DVD

Home theater enthusiast and Transformer fans lose in this Paramount decision.

Whether you like Bay or not, he is one of the biggest most powerful directors in Hollywood. Every single one of his movies brought in 100+ million dollars.

Shouldn't the thread title be "Michael Bay comes out as format neutral"?

Home theater enthusiast and Transformer fans lose in this Paramount decision.

Only some do, us that have both formats are still pretty happy about it.

What i find funny is that this thread would have gone a totally different way if paramount went BD exclusive and Bay wanted his movies on HD DVD. Everyone would be applauding his decision. I just love how people in BOTH camps either get happy/mad at news, and then switch their positions if it goes into their favor. Take for instance, if Universal suddenly went BD , every HD fanboy would be screaming that they wouldnt purchase their movies anymore just like BD fanboys are doing with paramount now. The whole thing is ridiculous. Im not saying this as a bash against HD DVD or BD, just against FANBOYS of either format in general.

Shouldn't the thread title be "Michael Bay comes out as format neutral"?
Michael Bay angry and screaming is hardly new, it's his on-set shtick as well. ;)

BOO-HOO! Now I lose BR royalty $$$$$$$. WAAHHH! I only make Millions and millions, instead of millions and millions and millions.

PI$$ OFF, Bay!

Wait, a director angry at a movie studio? Stop the presses, breaking news!!

Seriously though, don’t worry about it Michael! ‘300’ sold ~100,000 on HD DVD and by the time Transformers comes out; HD DVD will have an even bigger install base.

Hardball?

More like a last ditch attempt to prolong this format war for another 18 months, meanwhile burning bridges with many industry big hitters.

Blu-ray believed they could cruise over the finish line, now they'll go all guns blazing.

ROFL! Whatever you need to say to yourself, by all means, keep spewing it. :p

HA! I saw your Bland sig. I haven't seen him pop up here lately. In hiding.

BOO-HOO! Now I lose BR royalty $$$$$$$. WAAHHH! I only make Millions and millions, instead of millions and millions and millions.

PI$$ OFF, Bay!

Likely this is all there is to it. It would surpise me if it is anything more. He'll get a few extra to do the next film at that's that.

Art

HA! I saw your Bland sig. I haven't seen him pop up here lately. In hiding.

Yep, that wasn't really a "doozy" though, even by bland standards....everyone has always known he freely admits he believes BR will win - only reason I found it funny is because he said that just a couple of days after he bought an XA2 - go figure. :)

No, briankmonkey...

Only Blu ray enthusiasts lose in this Paramount decision. The fact remains that there is no logical reason to pay more for Blu ray equipment when the picture quality is the same. I'd say Paramount's decision is a victory for those of us with common sense. Why would anyone pay more for the same thing? Ask yourself that real quick...

Wait, a director angry at a movie studio? Stop the presses, breaking news!!

Seriously though, don’t worry about it Michael! ‘300’ sold ~100,000 on HD DVD and by the time Transformers comes out; HD DVD will have an even bigger install base.I think Michael Bay is mad that his distribution rights are not as complete as Spielberg's (and that he's not explicitly listed in Paramount's press release like Spielberg). Tough! This is the same as musicians who own their masters versus those that sign away rights. If Mr. Bay thinks he can get similar distribution rights as Spielberg, then by all means he should go for it next time he's signing a contract.

I do like how Paramount was able to a) keep this quiet until the news dropped (even Mr. Bay is shocked...NICE!!...:D) and b) put the plan into effect so quickly (starting next week...:cool:). Clearly Paramount means business!

Well Mr. Bay, get Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys 1 & 2, The Rock, The Island and Armageddeon off what will be "Blu Only" and spread the love and you might have a leg to stand on. It works both ways buddy!

Likely this is all there is to it. It would surpise me if it is anything more. He'll get a few extra to do the next film at that's that.

Art

Exactly this is a negotiation ploy he is using A.) To get more money, and B.) to get a little bit more control of future movies. If he asks for to much Paramount will just sign a director willing to blow as much if not more up, maybe ask the master and exec producer Spielberg himself to do the next one. The only reason he didn't do this one was more then likely related to scheduling and Indy 4 prep work.

Only some do, us that have both formats are still pretty happy about it.

Actually I've read more than a few response from people that own both that aren't happy about it. Why? They didn't gain any titles for their HD DVD player, secondly they loved The Transformers movie and would love a sequel by Michael Bay just as I would.

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not no but yes, c.kingsley. What I said was factual.

"Michael Bay Angry at Paramount for Dumping Blu-ray"

AVS Poster Angry at Michael Bay for Directing Crappy Movies

Well Mr. Bay, get Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys 1 & 2, The Rock, The Island and Armageddeon off what will be "Blu Only" and spread the love and you might have a leg to stand on. It works both ways buddy!

Well said!

Home theater enthusiast and Transformer fans lose in this Paramount decision.

What is it with BD fans? Are their e-peens so small that they have to come in and gab up in the HD forums? I never even bother reading BD forums, I have no urge or need to do so.. Unless, of course, the mythical finally-complete BD player is available for $200..

Confident HT enthusiasts prefer HDDVD ;)

With these kind of action you will hopefully start seeing more producers and directors demanding equal access to their movies be it BD or HD DVD maybe even put in their contracts.Would be nice to demand all studio's put it out in BD and HD DVD

Amen, movie directors and even studios should be format nuetral, if you read the papers studios want a High Def DVD format so they can earn more revenue since prices of titles on SD DVD are so low. But i would love both formats to survive allowing customers to choose which format is best for a particular release. I bet the cost to release on both formats is nominal.

Whether you like Bay or not, he is one of the biggest most powerful directors in Hollywood. Every single one of his movies brought in 100+ million dollars.

I have two words for you

"The Island"

Not even half of 100 million.


it made about 35 million or so (too lazy to google it right now).

About 2 weeks ago, I posted in this forum that Transformers is one of the worst movies I have ever paid to see, and the ONLY movie I have ever walked out of.

I hope that if there is a sequel, that someone else directs it.

I bet he wouldn't be angry if Paramount went Bluray exclusive. In fact, he'll probably praise them and offer to do Transformers 2 for free. What a hippocrite. If they want everything to be fair, all movie studios should go neutral and see what the consumers would choose.

The old post from Michael Bay looks like it has been deleted and replaced.

http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2300

Michael Bay is a douche bag. That is as close to a fact as it can be. I enjoyed Transformers but it got by on the strength of its source material and contained some of the worst directorial decisions in recent memory. A short list of mis-steps off the top of my head: Ridiculous use of a fish-eye lens(you need to make Megan Fox look skinner!?!?). A 20 something, blue-contact wearing, dye-job Aussie babe walks around the CIA dressed like Madonna from the 80s and is an upper-level signal analyst?!?! Every black character, besides pretty-boy Tyrese, is a tired patronizing stereotype. Obscene product placement(anyone remember having to stare at "Panasonic SD" for no reason or seeing Megan Fox's head framed entirely by a Burger King sign?). Every transformation is shot from point-blank range(how bout the big-picture every once in a while?). The final battle between Optimus Prime and Megatron was barely even shown!!! 5 minutes of lame sequel setup to close the movie.
Transformers 2 would be improved without Michael Bay's participation. Imagine how awesome Transformers would be envisioned by a true artist. Steven Soderbergh, Paul Greengrass, Christopher Nolan and Ridley Scott all come to mind as people that could easily take the directors chair and produce a better film then Michael Bay.

Michael Bay: Hummmf! I'm taking my shallow-incoherent-collage style of movie making and going home!
Paramount: Thank you and cya!!!

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/michael-bay-angry-at-paramounts-dumping-of-blu+ray-291749.php

The big news is that he's now refusing to helm Transformers 2 because of it.

Baby.

Xphyle


do you really believe this? of course this isnt gonna stop him making transformers 2.

About 2 weeks ago, I posted in this forum that Transformers is one of the worst movies I have ever paid to see, and the ONLY movie I have ever walked out of.

I hope that if there is a sequel, that someone else directs it.

what? 2nd best movie this summer. Transformers was freaking amazing.

Let me get this straight, a director is complaining about Paramount going HD DVD exclusive.

Yet no director seems to care that, Disney, Fox/MGM, and Sony Pictures are exclusive to Blu Ray?

I mean, if he refuses to do Transformers 2 because its Paramount, and they are exclusively for one format.

Then by his standards, he won't be doing any films for Paramount, Dreamworks, Universal, Sony Pictures, Disney, Fox/MGM.

I hope Warner Bros. offers him lots of movies, otherwise he won't be doing much of anything anymore.

It's gotta be frustrating for a lot of these directors whose films are spread evenly across both formats. Kevin Smith has got it real bad. Miramax is Blu-ray exclusive, while Universal and The Weinstein Co. support HD-DVD.

Other stupid people, please Mr. Bay let me know why Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys,The Rock,etc are Blue Ray only from Miramax!!!!! you are angry with them too...

Whats real funny is we can take jabs at both formats but the only people laughing in the end is the over paid Cooperate CEO,Producers,Directors,Actors and the Manufactures all the way to the bank they really could care less about the consumers.
So the joke is really on all of us

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/michael-bay-angry-at-paramounts-dumping-of-blu+ray-291749.php

The big news is that he's now refusing to helm Transformers 2 because of it.

Baby.

Xphyle

must have a lot of sony stock

UPDATE -

Michael Bay has now backtracked from the originally-reported remarks.

He now indicates he is disappointed that both formats will not be supported, but all references or statements of his original temper tantrum have been recinded. Please feel free to visit TVPredictions for confirmation of this update.

Maybe his Sony check bounced. :D

Ya, I agree with those posters who said if Mr. Bay is so upset about people only being able to watch Transformers on one format - HD DVD - he should stop being a hypocrite and get upset about his other films only available on blu-ray

Ok so for the record.....Transformers will be an HD DVD EXCLUSIVE title and it will release day and date with the SD DVD...? Or will we have another Spielberg school girl tantrum and have to wait forever for the damn movie to come out on HD?

He should backtrack if he wants a future that entails Directing Paramount movies. You don't burn your bridge over one movie. Pick and choose your battles. However, it's clear that Bay is a hothead.

http://www.starmuscle.com/2007/07/27/willis-bay-fight/

Director Michael Bay has hit back at Bruce Willis after the actor wrote an internet blog vowing never to work with him again. The pair fell out on the set of Armageddon, prompting Willis to recently write, “Few people will work with Bay now, and I know I will never work with him again. A screaming director does not make for a pleasant set experience.”

Bay clearly is one of those people who cannot converse with people without injecting too much emotion.

Let's let at Bay's recent filmography.

Transformers (2007) - I was entertainmed..not by the story but by the effects.

The Island (2005)- Garbage but Johannsen looked good.

The Lionel Richie Collection (2003) (V) (video "Do It to Me")- didn't see it

Bad Boys II (2003) - Ok action flick but not something I'd rush out to buy.

Pearl Harbor (2001) - Total garbage.

Armageddon (1998/I)- Not a bad flick..Bay burned his Willis bridge here

The Rock (1996)- His most entertaining film

Bad Boys (1995)- His second most entertaining film.


Bay has been on the downside for years. He crafts the right image and clearly Hollywood is favoring him but it appears his attitude and lack of Directorial progress is going to catch up with him.

I'd take Zack Snyder as a replacement for Bay for Transformers 2 in a heartbeat.

I'd take Zack Snyder as a replacement for Bay for Transformers 2 in a heartbeat.

After he's done with _Watchmen_, of course...

http://imdb.com/title/tt0409459/

(I wonder if it'll be an exclusive from Warner, or will the HDDVD version just be better, like _300_ (when the damned combo bugs get worked out :p))

I think Michael Bay is mad that his distribution rights are not as complete as Spielberg's (and that he's not explicitly listed in Paramount's press release like Spielberg). Tough! This is the same as musicians who own their masters versus those that sign away rights. If Mr. Bay thinks he can get similar distribution rights as Spielberg, then by all means he should go for it next time he's signing a contract.

I do like how Paramount was able to a) keep this quiet until the news dropped (even Mr. Bay is shocked...NICE!!...:D) and b) put the plan into effect so quickly (starting next week...:cool:). Clearly Paramount means business!

Exactly right. The fact is Mr. Bay is not a big enough boy to wear his daddy's britches (Mr. Spielberg that is).

"Michael Bay Angry at Paramount for Dumping Blu-ray"

AVS Poster Angry at Michael Bay for Directing Crappy Movies

:D

Steven Soderbergh, Paul Greengrass, Christopher Nolan and Ridley Scott all come to mind as people that could easily take the directors chair and produce a better film then Michael Bay.

Isn't that the truth? Can you imagine a Transformers movie directed by Nolan?? with all the grit of Batman Begins. O good Lord. Bryan Singer I think would be another fantastic choice. You make a great point: the source material helped a lot in making the movie great, not so much Bay.

UPDATE -

Michael Bay has now backtracked from the originally-reported remarks.

He now indicates he is disappointed that both formats will not be supported, but all references or statements of his original temper tantrum have been recinded. Please feel free to visit TVPredictions for confirmation of this update.

Maybe his Sony check bounced. :D

NOW....THIS....IS....QUALITY. :p

He should backtrack if he wants a future that entails Directing Paramount movies. You don't burn your bridge over one movie. Pick and choose your battles. However, it's clear that Bay is a hothead.

http://www.starmuscle.com/2007/07/27/willis-bay-fight/



Bay clearly is one of those people who cannot converse with people without injecting too much emotion.

Let's let at Bay's recent filmography.

Transformers (2007) - I was entertainmed..not by the story but by the effects.

The Island (2005)- Garbage but Johannsen looked good.

The Lionel Richie Collection (2003) (V) (video "Do It to Me")- didn't see it

Bad Boys II (2003) - Ok action flick but not something I'd rush out to buy.

Pearl Harbor (2001) - Total garbage.

Armageddon (1998/I)- Not a bad flick..Bay burned his Willis bridge here

The Rock (1996)- His most entertaining film

Bad Boys (1995)- His second most entertaining film.


Bay has been on the downside for years. He crafts the right image and clearly Hollywood is favoring him but it appears his attitude and lack of Directorial progress is going to catch up with him.

I'd take Zack Snyder as a replacement for Bay for Transformers 2 in a heartbeat.

With the exception of The Rock and possibly Transformers, I see total crap. A bunch of action movies that were about as creative a vanilla ice cream. As someone who enjoys historical accounts of WWII, the fact that he ruined what should have been an all time great movie, Pearl Harbor, is enough to make me lose all respect for the guy.

Well Mr. Bay, get Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys 1 & 2, The Rock, The Island and Armageddeon off what will be "Blu Only" and spread the love and you might have a leg to stand on. It works both ways buddy!
Exactly!

Someone else said Bay's movies all make $100million, not true. He is a hit or miss director. The Island made $36 million Domestically. ($162million total worldwide the movie cost $129, counting advertising the studio lost money)
Most of his films do very well ever if they are bad ones IMO.
As a director he is no Spielberg, I remember before Armageddon he was making car commercials because he was signed to 3 picture deal and couldn't find any projects he wanted to do.
He has made 7 films in his career, over 12 years. Not exactly a powerhouse.

But I digress personally I think he is right, studios should be making for both formates. He looks like an ass acting up like this, "I'm taking my toys and going home". Right now there is only one studio he can work for, Warner.

He comes off as a hypocrite for not saying a thing when 5 of his 7 movies were released to Blu only. I hope some reporter some where catches him on this.

lmao.. wow.. this guy is a mess..

He should backtrack if he wants a future that entails Directing Paramount movies. You don't burn your bridge over one movie. Pick and choose your battles. However, it's clear that Bay is a hothead.

http://www.starmuscle.com/2007/07/27/willis-bay-fight/



Bay clearly is one of those people who cannot converse with people without injecting too much emotion.

Let's let at Bay's recent filmography.

Transformers (2007) - I was entertainmed..not by the story but by the effects.

The Island (2005)- Garbage but Johannsen looked good.

The Lionel Richie Collection (2003) (V) (video "Do It to Me")- didn't see it

Bad Boys II (2003) - Ok action flick but not something I'd rush out to buy.

Pearl Harbor (2001) - Total garbage.

Armageddon (1998/I)- Not a bad flick..Bay burned his Willis bridge here

The Rock (1996)- His most entertaining film

Bad Boys (1995)- His second most entertaining film.


Bay has been on the downside for years. He crafts the right image and clearly Hollywood is favoring him but it appears his attitude and lack of Directorial progress is going to catch up with him.

I'd take Zack Snyder as a replacement for Bay for Transformers 2 in a heartbeat.

True I think any director can step in for him, I've enjoyed some of his movies but it nothing that any Jerry Bruckheimer clone couldn't do.

I doubt he would really give up directing the sequel to this summer's biggest blockbuster just because of some decision regarding a niche format war. If Paramount were abandoning DVD (wouldn't THAT be something), then yeah, maybe. But not over this.

Michael Bay = Bill Hunt = Dobyblue = Supermans

Everything is starting to fall into place...

I doubt he would really give up directing the sequel to this summer's biggest blockbuster just because of some decision regarding a niche format war. If Paramount were abandoning DVD (wouldn't THAT be something), then yeah, maybe. But not over this.

True. I don't know what good he thinks he is doing. The total of HD format sales is so small there is no reason to get upset about it.
Either he is trying to get out of his contract with Paramount or he is an absolute idiot.


I checked a few news comments sections on the web, there are a few blubois crying about how HD ruined everything and how paramount is in trouble now, by far the majority are either: How stupied is Bay or thank god Bay is gone. If Bay thought he would get good publisity from this he miss the undercurrent of people don't particularly care for him all that much.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/michael-bay-angry-at-paramounts-dumping-of-blu+ray-291749.php

The big news is that he's now refusing to helm Transformers 2 because of it.

Baby.

Xphyle
I like his stance on supporting the dual-format studios, I just hope he's angered by the Blu-ray exclusive studios as well.

I'm happy that Paramount went exclusive to the HD DVD side, because I dislike certain practices on the Blu-ray side and want the format to succeed (along side Blu-ray) but I would have been even happier had they stayed neutral and the big news yesterday instead be that Fox and Disney were going neutral.

Dual-format support is the way to go. I know I'm being a sort of a hypocrite for preaching dual-format while praising Paramount, but there needs to be more balance between the two sides and their switch provides that for the time-being. In a year or two, perhaps all sides will revert back to becoming dual-format.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/michael-bay-angry-at-paramounts-dumping-of-blu+ray-291749.php

The big news is that he's now refusing to helm Transformers 2 because of it.

Baby.

Xphyle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg

I find it funny that he has no problem with Disney releasing his films only on BD, if your going to get upset at least be fair about it and pick on both formats (but then he wouldn't be a BD fanboy).

Bay is one director who obviously favors BD to HD DVD for whatever reason. Even in the update it says that he would like to be the one to choose the format in which the movies come out in. Not be out in both. So it seems that he doesn't mind if it is exclusive as long as it is Blu Ray for some reason. Fvck him anyway he is still garbage.

Bay is one director who obviously favors BD to HD DVD for whatever reason. Even in the update it says that he would like to be the one to choose the format in which the movies come out in. Not be out in both. So it seems that he doesn't mind if it is exclusive as long as it is Blu Ray for some reason. Fvck him anyway he is still garbage.

Waaaaaaaa! I wanna be like Spielberg! Waaaaa! I want my own exclusive deal....Waaaaa! :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/michael-bay-angry-at-paramounts-dumping-of-blu+ray-291749.php

The big news is that he's now refusing to helm Transformers 2 because of it.

Baby.

Xphyle

Only a person that has been bribed would comment like that.

I hope this is true, him not directing transformers 2 would be great news.

I wonder what it would take to get him to not direct anything anymore.

Why did he have to retract his first statement?

I was getting my hopes up!!

Bay quits 'Transformers 2' over Hi-Def formats. Then reconsiders. (http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=28702)

In a topic that's since been removed from the message boards of the official Michael Bay website, the director vented his anger at the news that Paramount would be abandoning the Blu-Ray format and releasing 'Transformers' only in HD-DVD and standard DVD formats.

I want people to see my movies in the best formats possible. For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive by having two formats. No Transformers 2 for me!



However, Bay's withdrawal from the mega-million dollar franchise appears to have been short-lived. Bay's comments were excised from the site and replaced with a more innocuous message from his webmaster, Nelson:

I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago.

He said he just wants people to know that we should be able to view his movies in the format of our choice. Period.

Nothing more, nothing less.

And, to keep things in perspective, Nelson also posted this:

Keep in mind he quit Pearl Harbor abut 4x during pre-production.

I agree with Mr. Bay. I believe everybody should have access to Transformers. But the same should hold true for Sony, Fox, Disney etc. releases. I see many in the BD camp are raising high heck for being left out. But I don't see any complaints for their exclusive access to Alien vs. Predator, Ghost Rider, Night at the Museum and on and on. You get the picture. How about making all the studios format neutral and then see where the format war chips fall.

First Alec Baldwin stays in the country and now Michael Bay might still direct Transformers 2... you just can trust those Hollywood types to keep to their word.

I'm just so glad that Michael Bay has reconsidered his stance on directing Transformers 2. I really couldn't imagine what the sequel would be like if it didn't stop to ponder masturbation at great length.

Steven Spielberg's left nut could direct better movies than Michael Friggin' Bay! He will never be in the same league, never, ever, ever. He'd have to actually show some range, and subtlety for that. He doesn't even know what those are. Hack that got a lucky break!

Oh crap so he might direct Transformers 2. I was hoping.

Bay - YESTERDAY:
http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/ww_053.jpg
"... NO Transformers 2!!!"

Bay - TODAY:
http://www.toyfan.com/products/bea4.jpg
"... people ... should be able to view his movies in the format of our choice."

Phil

Bay didn't even want to do the first Transformers to begin with. He was quoted saying he would never direct a stupid movie like that or something along those lines. This guy's head is bigger than any crappy movie he's ever done. I like The Rock and Island, but this guy needs to stop crying and make better movies.

I think he gives himself too much credit. he's OK, nothing special. Heck, James Cameron is probably better :P

Paramount probably laid the bitch slap on him.

Someone over at Bay's forums mentioned the point that most of his other movies are Blu-Ray exclusive.

Someone replied:

Another reason to be upset is because of the fact that HD-DVD's can't hold as much as a Blu-Ray. They're going to have to compress the picture and sound where as on Blu-Ray they wouldn't have to. If Paramount had released it on Blu-Ray, they could've used a 50gb disc with PCM sound.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/Ironhorse75/ani-karma-headdesk.gif

I bet he wouldn't be angry if Paramount went Bluray exclusive. In fact, he'll probably praise them and offer to do Transformers 2 for free. What a hippocrite. If they want everything to be fair, all movie studios should go neutral and see what the consumers would choose.

The BDA won't let that happen, if theres an even playing field the consumer would only have the price tag to compare. You know how that outcome would look.

It stuns me that people that ignorant about the formats are even familiar with the term "PCM sound".

Somehow I'm reminded of Kevin Smith's "F**k DVD!" statement at the beginning of his Chasing Amy's commentary. At the time, it was the popular sentiment... DVD was killing off the beloved laserdisc.

Years later (when the commentary was reissued on the Chasing Amy DVD), he had to explain himself and basically admit that he was an ass and was wrong.


Same thing is happening here... Bay is all cheesed off because his film isn't showing up on blu-ray. But in a few years, assuming HD DVD takes off as the format of choice, it's going to look silly.

I wonder what it would take to get him to not direct anything anymore.

:D:D:D:D

For those complaining about Michael Bay, though, would you rather have a Brett Ratner do Transformers 2? :eek: I couldn't take it.

:D:D:D:D

For those complaining about Michael Bay, though, would you rather have a Brett Ratner do Transformers 2? :eek: I couldn't take it.

I'd take Michael Mann.

Transformers was a stellar movie, far too stellar to have been directed by Bay, just consider all of his other movies. Why such a quantum leap? One word, Spielberg. I agree with geocab, anybody but Ratner and especially Jonathan Mostow, he destroyed The Terminator franchise, actually he blew it to smitherines!!!

Man this whole BD Vs. HD-DVD sucks. Michael Bay just wants us to watch movies and that's what I want to do. I don't give a toss about the format war, I own both and I am happy to continue to do so.

At the end of the day I just want to watch movies in HD, but if someone is BD or HD-DVD only they should be able to watch their favourite movies on that format.

If I were a director I'd want my movies on ALL formats

Neutral is where it's at :-)

I'd take Michael Mann.

I think the chances of Mann helming Transformers 2 is about the same as Bay taking on Heat 2!

[QUOTE=briankmonkey;11370464 Home theater enthusiast and Transformer fans lose in this Paramount decision.[/QUOTE]

Same can be said for Fox & Disney.

Man this whole BD Vs. HD-DVD sucks. Michael Bay just wants us to watch movies and that's what I want to do. I don't give a toss about the format war, I own both and I am happy to continue to do so.

At the end of the day I just want to watch movies in HD, but if someone is BD or HD-DVD only they should be able to watch their favourite movies on that format.

If I were a director I'd want my movies on ALL formats

Neutral is where it's at :-)

Thank you but be prepared to be slammed.

Thank you but be prepared to be slammed.

slammed for what? He said nothing wrong?

I spent a lot on my A2, when it first came out. I like Toshiba as a company, never cared for Sony or its tactics. That's why i'm behind HD DVD. Cheaper, FINALIZED, and looks/sounds amazing!

Go HD DVD! I think you can, I think you can! :)

Thank you but be prepared to be slammed.

I dunno, from what I can tell HDDVD folks are a bit less insecure, but then I don't troll BD fora so maybe there's tons of HD trolls there I just never see... BD folks just seem to need to stick their e-peen where it's not really welcome...

Thank you but be prepared to be slammed.

You keep telling trollers in the Blu forum to leave and go away....

You've posted you fair share of cr*p here so why don't you take your own advice pal and ...... GO AWAY.

:D

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

"I'm taking my ball, and going home"!!

sniff....

Blu-ray believed they could cruise over the finish line, now they'll go all guns blazing.

Buying off retailers, rental outfits, studios, subsidizing disc production, massive losses on PS3 hardware to include the player ............ cruising? LOL

I dunno, from what I can tell HDDVD folks are a bit less insecure, but then I don't troll BD fora so maybe there's tons of HD trolls there I just never see... BD folks just seem to need to stick their e-peen where it's not really welcome...


Not a big surprise. This guy is a joke. Quote from his recent post in the BD forum...

Maybe if your not here to talk BD you need to haul your to the other forum.

Take your own advice.

FYI - a recent post:

Still doesn't change the fact that HD DVD S*CKS

You keep telling trollers in the Blu forum to leave and go away....

You've posted you fair share of cr*p here so why don't you take your own advice pal and ...... GO AWAY.

:D

Im not your pale and do not even think that way

Im not your pale and do not even think that way

Your good for a laugh.

Not a big surprise. This guy is a joke. Quote from his recent post in the BD forum...



Take your own advice.

FYI - a recent post:

I have a joke for you and we know what that is.

I have a joke for you and we know what that is.

The joke is on you. Your in the wrong forum.

Tell you what - if your trying to undermine my point why don't you start by saying your not trolling....

Thank you but be prepared to be slammed.
You mean like this?

http://cybereality.com/images/hddvd_owns_bluray.gif

You mean like this?

http://cybereality.com/images/hddvd_owns_bluray.gif

LMFAO

slammed for what? He said nothing wrong?Agreed. Most producers/directors want to make as much green as possible. And (assuming he actually made statements) Bay's main focus should be on the big screen, anyhow; it's not like he's doing direct-to-video projects. But if true (his movies suck anyway).....

Im not your pale and do not even think that way

I think pale is spelled P-A-I-L.

I think pale is spelled P-A-I-L.

lol

Pal is spelled Payl :D

How old are you yellowfairy? :eek:

Im sure there are plenty of other directors that will do transformers 2 justice anyways... I can't see the studio's batting an eye. kinda reminds me of michael keaton and batman 2... oh wait, he wasn't in that because he wanted too much money.

I think the chances of Mann helming Transformers 2 is about the same as Bay taking on Heat 2!


I'd disagree here. Could there really be a sequel to Heat? Probably not, so if there was one, it would fit right in with the commercialized film making style of Mr. Bay. :D:D But, I see where you're going. :)

Wow, this thread (and forum) has turned pretty nasty. I hope we can all get back to HD enthusiam soon.

what an embarassing turn around for michael bay. maybe he really thought of quitting but realized that James Cameron might be available to helm Transformers 2.

Thank you but be prepared to be slammed.

Slammed for what ? I just said I like both formats and I just wanna watch movies. What's wrong with that ?

Some people :confused:

Im sure there are plenty of other directors that will do transformers 2 justice anyways... I can't see the studio's batting an eye. kinda reminds me of michael keaton and batman 2... oh wait, he wasn't in that because he wanted too much money.


He was in that movie (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0103776/)

Now he is singing a different tune:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Michael_Bay_Retracts_Earlier_Statement_Says_He_Supports_Para mounts_Decision_to_Back_HD_DVD/884

Vinnie Chase didn't do Aquaman 2 because of Bay's involvement, that says it all right there.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/michael-bay-angry-at-paramounts-dumping-of-blu+ray-291749.php

The big news is that he's now refusing to helm Transformers 2 because of it.

Baby.

Xphyle


:D Based on the fist one it is a good thing that this hack is not involved. Good riddance.

Home theater enthusiast and Transformer fans lose in this Paramount decision.
A narrow segement of those ........................maybe!

Whether you like Bay or not, he is one of the biggest most powerful directors in Hollywood. Every single one of his movies brought in 100+ million dollars.

Yeah usually they cost that much too.

Well Mr. Bay, get Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys 1 & 2, The Rock, The Island and Armageddeon off what will be "Blu Only" and spread the love and you might have a leg to stand on. It works both ways buddy!

Exactly. Where is his bitching on those movies and studios?

First Alec Baldwin stays in the country and now Michael Bay might still direct Transformers 2... you just can trust those Hollywood types to keep to their word.


:D