In anticipation of Halo 3 I am looking to get headphones. In my limited research I selected it down to Turtle beach Ear Force X2 and TRITTON AX360, leaning strongly towards the AX360 (the AX360 can take the XBX360's optical output and do a 5.1 surround sound). Any other recommendations? Thanks

what type of headphones are you talking about? for the actual game sound from the TV? If thats the case how will you chat via xbox live?

what type of headphones are you talking about? for the actual game sound from the TV? If thats the case how will you chat via xbox live?
He's talking about both game sound and xbox live voice chat. Both of the examples he gave are headphone/headset combinations, which do game sound and also have mics for chat.


I've been considering those Trittons, too. There's a couple threads about them here in the xbox area of AVS. The surround feature seems pretty cool, and apparently they work pretty well.

I think it really boils down to: how much money you're willing to spend.

In anticipation of Halo 3 I am looking to get headphones. In my limited research I selected it down to Turtle beach Ear Force X2 and TRITTON AX360, leaning strongly towards the AX360 (the AX360 can take the XBX360's optical output and do a 5.1 surround sound). Any other recommendations? Thanks
I had the Turtle beach Ear Force X2 and I can honestly say they were spectaculator. I loved them. In fact, my ears picked up sounds on some of the H2 maps I had never heard before.

One major caveat and it is MAJOR. They are NOT 5.1 surround!! Therefore, you hear every sound on the map. For example, on Terminal, if someone is sniping on the other side of the map, it sounds like it right next to you. That was a deal breaker for me.

They feel a little bulky, but I love the Motorola Gaming Headset X205. My friends tell me they can hear me perfectly and I can hear everyone great.

Yeah. Although money is ALWAYS an issue, for a good head set I don't mind spending a bit more. I plan to connect the XBX360 to my Gateway FDP2275W monitor (in stead of my current 32" Sammy 480p TV set), hoping to get a sharper image and better sniping skills :D. Anyone knows if Halo 3 will provide 5.1 output?

TIGERDIRECT has a $30 rebate on the TRITTON. Except... they seem to be out of stock completely! Buy.kom offers them for ~$100

I have some advice for you. You see I play halo 2 very competitively and am even ranked semi pro in the MLG league if you have ever heard of it(http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132207 gamertag is Cloud). Anyways I can tell you right now that the best headphone you can get is the seinheisser 555. Nearly every professional Halo player uses these headphones and I can assure you they sound better than any 5.1 surround set. They are also extremely light and comfortable, sometimes you will forget they are even there. And I had those turtle beach phones and they are terrible, and as for the tritton dont bother because they are heavy and your ears will be hurting in a matter of minutes(they sound good though).

The only thing is they dont have a headset built in but I just use a regular headset under the headphones and it works perfectly.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/10/joystiq-hands-on-call-of-duty-4-multiplayer/

So, once we were finally let loose into the dark bowels of Cinespace, we found a mixture of LCD screens set up on camoflauge netting, and gaming kiosks provided by Microsoft, with all the multiplayer action happening on the Xbox 360. The stations also featured the Tritton AX360 5.1 headsets, and after playing with one for an hour or so, it's definitely on our "want" list, right behind CoD4. That's probably a credit to how good the sound is in this game, like the other entries in the CoD series, and the "tink, tink, tink" of a grenade hitting the ground behind you is pretty fear-inducing.

I know they are kind of pricey... but I have the Pioneer SE-DIR800s and they frickin rock. In Vegas, I can hear a pin drop a 1/2 block away.

One call has them on sale right now also...

In anticipation of Halo 3 I am looking to get headphones. In my limited research I selected it down to Turtle beach Ear Force X2 and TRITTON AX360, leaning strongly towards the AX360 (the AX360 can take the XBX360's optical output and do a 5.1 surround sound). Any other recommendations? Thanks

The pioneer 5.1 headphones are the best.. The Tritton & other 'gaming' 5.1 headphones use 8 small & supbar drivers, & a rumble function instead of bass, so you get the 5.1 effect but SQ is greatly compromised. & why would anyone want headphones made from a computer company? IMO you should get a good stereo headphone & get the JVC 5.1 adaptor so you get the best of both worlds.

I have some advice for you. You see I play halo 2 very competitively and am even ranked semi pro in the MLG league if you have ever heard of it(http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132207 gamertag is Cloud). Anyways I can tell you right now that the best headphone you can get is the seinheisser 555. Nearly every professional Halo player uses these headphones and I can assure you they sound better than any 5.1 surround set. They are also extremely light and comfortable, sometimes you will forget they are even there. And I had those turtle beach phones and they are terrible, and as for the tritton dont bother because they are heavy and your ears will be hurting in a matter of minutes(they sound good though).

The only thing is they dont have a headset built in but I just use a regular headset under the headphones and it works perfectly.

Yes. The Sen 555's are better then any 5.1 headphone.. Although the pioneers would be a close 2nd.. But the 555's are far from being the best headphones for competitive play. I'm a headphone & gaming nut, & my headphone gaming rig is over 2,000. I have the Sony SA5000/Sen 650/AKG340 all in a balanced configuration. Headphone characteristics for competitve play would include 3d Imaging, Wide soundstage, detail, non bloated bass, & clarity.

It does suck that the average joe wants to buy a pair of 5.1 headphones cause competitive players use them..But they need to figure out that the companies that make these 5.1 hadphones are sponsoring them.

I've been eyeing these for months. They are coming out at the end of the month.

http://ltbaudio.com/qhomeac3fx.html

I spoke at length with the rep at their headquarters and he pretty much sold me on them. He recommended buying them from the Radioshack (don't laugh) website and having them shipped to a local store. If I don't like them, I can just take them back for a refund.

I like the way the speakers sit in the earpieces for the 5.1 directional sound, instead of electronic gimmicks to imitate surround. If anyone has tried this brand for 5.1, I'd sure like some feedback. Thanks.

I've been eyeing these for months. They are coming out at the end of the month.

http://ltbaudio.com/qhomeac3fx.html

I spoke at length with the rep at their headquarters and he pretty much sold me on them. He recommended buying them from the Radioshack (don't laugh) website and having them shipped to a local store. If I don't like them, I can just take them back for a refund.

I like the way the speakers sit in the earpieces for the 5.1 directional sound, instead of electronic gimmicks to imitate surround. If anyone has tried this brand for 5.1, I'd sure like some feedback. Thanks.

Hi Def audio? Nice marketing.. Almost as bad as my SA5000 which Sony claims has HD composite drivers. These 5.1 headphones seem to be a level above the other 'true' 5.1 headphones. Sometimes you do get what you pay for.

Great suggestion guys. Thanks. I like Sennheiser alot (I own a pair of noise-cancelling headphones). I would go for the 555 but the lack of integrated microphone seems a bit awkward for XBL. I don't quite visualize Chase117's suggestion of using a regular headset under the headphones. Furthermore, how do you connect these to the XBOX 360? With this (http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=092595) adapter from Sennheiser itself? How would you connect the mic then?

I also like Snudley's suggestion. It seems to have everything (just like the TRITTON one). What is the price?

I read more reviews on TRITTON AX360 and -really- very few complaints on the weight. Any one -in addition to Chase117- who actually used them?

KBI... WOW! Man, you sure know how to pick the headphones... But, I can't reasonably justify spending THAT much. Nevertheless, I certainly value your opinion so would like to hear what you would do if you had $100-150 to spend. 95% of my gaming is Halo on XBL.

I read more reviews on TRITTON AX360 and -really- very few complaints on the weight. Any one -in addition to Chase117- who actually used them?

I've got a pair and they are definitely heavy. If there was more padding for the top of my head I don't think I'd mind at all. They're very comfy on the ears.

I've had a pair of Trittons for about a year now. They sound really, really good. They noise cancel pretty good with the outside world too.

While I wouldn't say they're 'heavy' they are definitely not light if you know what I mean.

The 5.1 effect takes some getting used to. What I mean is the first day or two you wear them you may not perceive true surround sound. Your brain needs a little time to adjust to the fact that the 5.1 is actually positioned around your ear as opposed to a real 5.1 setup where the speakers are positioned around the room. Give it a couple of days and you'll be very happy.

Lastly, althought the integrated XBox Live mic is a plus, it's kind of flimsy. Mine only lasted a few months before the wire got severed. This happens because the the mic can pivot and the wire connecting the mic ends up getting moved and twisted quite regularly.

Great suggestion guys. Thanks. I like Sennheiser alot (I own a pair of noise-cancelling headphones). I would go for the 555 but the lack of integrated microphone seems a bit awkward for XBL. I don't quite visualize Chase117's suggestion of using a regular headset under the headphones. Furthermore, how do you connect these to the XBOX 360? With this (http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=092595) adapter from Sennheiser itself? How would you connect the mic then?

I also like Snudley's suggestion. It seems to have everything (just like the TRITTON one). What is the price?

I read more reviews on TRITTON AX360 and -really- very few complaints on the weight. Any one -in addition to Chase117- who actually used them?

KBI... WOW! Man, you sure know how to pick the headphones... But, I can't reasonably justify spending THAT much. Nevertheless, I certainly value your opinion so would like to hear what you would do if you had $100-150 to spend. 95% of my gaming is Halo on XBL.

Ofcourse not. I'm nuts in that regard. But use it for music too half the time. I'd recommend a Zalman clip on mic, good pair of stereo headphones for 60.00 then get the JVC 5.1 adaptor if you think you really need 5.1 to get the extra advantage.. So you will have 5.1 SS without compromising the SQ..
I'd recommed the Beyerdynamic 231
http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/beyerdynamic-dt-231-galactic.php
Sen 212pro (sealed headphone. Better isolation)
http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/sennheiser-hd-212-pro.php
Sen EH 250
http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/sennheiser-hd-212-pro.php
ATH 500 (Closed headphone. Isolation almost as good as the BOSE triports but better build & SQ)
http://www.audiocubes.com/category/Headphones_Audiophile,+Hifi/product/Audio-Technica_ATH-A500_Art_Headphones.html
ATH 700 (closed headphone)
http://www.audiocubes.com/category/Headphones_Audiophile,+Hifi/product/Audio-Technica_ATH-A500_Art_Headphones.html
Sen 595
http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/sennheiser-hd-595.php
Denon 1000 (closed headphone)
http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3462.asp

Just a reminder. You can find these cheaper on Amazon.com.. The 595's can be found MUCH cheaper on ebay. headfi.com (New or used) Audiogon (New or used)

I own the Sen 212pro & they are very good.. Loved playing GOW & FPSers with them.. I owned the 595's & they are the most fun I had with headphones while gaming. Very detailed, & spacious.

I'd second the rec for the Denon AH-D1000. There really is no such thing as a "gaming" headphone, it's a marketing gimmick, just as there is no such thing as a gaming display, or gaming speakers.

Focus on getting a quality set of cans that have good sound quality. You will enjoy them across all of your media, not just games.

KBI or anyone else have any experience with the RS 120 RF wireless set (http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=009920)? MSRP is $110, but you can get them here (http://www.directron.com/rs120.html) for $72.

I have been looking too and really prefer to be wireless.

KBI: You tha man. Thanks!

Ofcourse not. I'm nuts in that regard. But use it for music too half the time. I'd recommend a Zalman clip on mic, good pair of stereo headphones for 60.00 then get the JVC 5.1 adaptor if you think you really need 5.1 to get the extra advantage.. So you will have 5.1 SS without compromising the SQ..
Sen 595
http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/sennheiser-hd-595.php


+1 on the Senn 595s, excellent gaming cans.

KBI or anyone else have any experience with the RS 120 RF wireless set (http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=009920)? MSRP is $110, but you can get them here (http://www.directron.com/rs120.html) for $72.

I have been looking too and really prefer to be wireless.

Sorry Chill, I don't follow wireless phones.

I'd second the rec for the Denon AH-D1000. There really is no such thing as a "gaming" headphone, it's a marketing gimmick, just as there is no such thing as a gaming display, or gaming speakers.

Focus on getting a quality set of cans that have good sound quality. You will enjoy them across all of your media, not just games.

Very, Very true.. But brings in more traffic when you ad gaming before it.

Made a decision: will buy the Senn 555 and clip on mic. The Senn 595 is just soo pricey for me. I will probably buy the JVC 5.1 adapter as well but am still thinking it over.

With the 5.1 adapter, connectivity seems rather straight forward. However, w/o the 5.1 adapter, how do I connect the phones/mic to the XBOX 360? I looked at the Datel adapter but that seems to give only an input for the headphones, not for the mic.
Anyone?

Made a decision: will buy the Senn 555 and clip on mic. The Senn 595 is just soo pricey for me. I will probably buy the JVC 5.1 adapter as well but am still thinking it over.

With the 5.1 adapter, connectivity seems rather straight forward. However, w/o the 5.1 adapter, how do I connect the phones/mic to the XBOX 360? I looked at the Datel adapter but that seems to give only an input for the headphones, not for the mic.
Anyone?

595 too pricey? You can get them for 125 or 150.. Forgot your budget..

I'm very curious about possibly going the JVC 5.1 adapter / quality headphones route.

My question is this: how well does the 2 channel audio simulate a surround field. I know that we have two ears, and that we use phase matching, delay, pitch changes, etc, to figure out where a sound is coming from in space, but... isn't that sort of thing very individualized to your particular... well... /head?/

How does a system like this work? Do you calibrate it, listening to various sounds and making adjustments until you hear a full sound field?

Edited to add:

Also, if I was going this route, my total budget would be ~ 450 US dollars or under for the JVC adapter and a good set of headphones. The Wife would really appreciate it if I could play games without her hearing them.

595 too pricey? You can get them for 125 or 150.. Forgot your budget..

I spend quite some time pricescanning the web. Lowest quote's: $90 for the 555 and $160 for the 595. Please PM if you know where to get it for $125.

I am still wondering how to connect it all. I want to connect the XBOX360 to a computer monitor using VGA, and the headphones/clip on mic somehow also straight to the XBOX or controller.

Sibilance: obviously I have no personal experience with the 5.1 adapter. However, the reviews you find on the web are 95% very positive. Here you can download the instructions manual:
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027291&pathId=135&page=1

Interesting as well: Turtle Beach Ear Force X3
http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/efx3/home.aspx

buy.com has the Tritton's on sale (after MIR) for $79.95 today.

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=202636837&adid=17654&dcaid=17653#cRevSec

buy.com has the Tritton's on sale (after MIR) for $79.95 today.

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=202636837&adid=17654&dcaid=17653#cRevSec


Thanks! I ordered a pair.

Edumacate here please... I have a set of Pioneer cans with which I use the Optical tos link connector. Where does the Zalman mic connect to use with 360 gaming?

:D

Edumacate here please... I have a set of Pioneer cans with which I use the Optical tos link connector. Where does the Zalman mic connect to use with 360 gaming?

:D

I think if you get the Datel adapter (http://shopping.msn.com/prices/shp/?itemId=564616138)you can connect the mic to it. I am thinking this as there was a review (http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/09/13/110247.php)that mentioned plugging the AX360 in it...

Otherwise, connectivity for the mic is also still a big unknown to me.

I think if you get the Datel adapter (http://shopping.msn.com/prices/shp/?itemId=564616138)you can connect the mic to it. I am thinking this as there was a review (http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/09/13/110247.php)that mentioned plugging the AX360 in it...

Otherwise, connectivity for the mic is also still a big unknown to me.

Does anyone here have the Datel that can test this out? This would be great if it works. I'm tempted to just run by CC and buy one just in case it works.. but it would be nice to know ahead of time.

:)

Thought I'd drop in here and say I wasn't that impressed with the sound of the trittons. I agree the space restrictions of fitting 4 drivers in the headphones made them sound weak to me with a definate lack of bass that the rumble just didn't compensate for. Not so bad for game action but you really notice it with dialogue. It made me think of when you go to the drive-in and you are listening to the audio over a cheap car radio. I had wanted to use these headphones to watch dvd's quietly too but no way!

Also, the rumble headset gave me headaches after about 20 minuts of playing and I never could shake that. Just made for an uncomfortable experience and I wished I had just bought a good set of headphones without the gimmicks. Oh and another thing you don't get to hear your own voice when talking over live so sometimes people would tell me I was shouting LOL.

Does anyone here have the Datel that can test this out? This would be great if it works. I'm tempted to just run by CC and buy one just in case it works.. but it would be nice to know ahead of time.

:)


well I was able to sort of test this out. I have an adapter from a cell phone that half-ass fits in the controller.. and an old stand alone mic from a 10 yr old HP system. lol.

While wearing my Pioneers (connected via optical cable) I WAS able to record a instant message voice message, albiet choppy as hell.

So I guess all I was able to prove was that it would appear possible to at least use an independent microphone with digital headphones.

The problem I have with the Datel/Zalman combo is that neither are sold many places and the solution just feels very "ghetto" for lack of a better description. It just seems Microsoft or a reputable 3rd party vendor would recognize this need and roll out a nice all-in-one microphone solution.

sigh...

I guess I'll just stick with the crappy 360 live headset for online gaming and use my Pioneers for offline gaming.

:confused:

I now plan to go that route as well. Get a good set of headphones (Sen 555 or 595, or the wireless Pioneers) and a separate mic (and perhaps later also the JVC 5.1 adapter for surround sound). If we can find a converter that takes the 1/8 plug from a clip-on mic and fits the XBOX controller (I guess similar to your cell-phone adapter) we would be game. For $10 I don't mind getting the Datel adapter. I just don't know if you can get it in any B&M store.

I played yesterday with a pair of iPod earphones and the original XBOX360 headset around my neck for the mic. It works but definite not elegant...
By the way, you can also just modify the original XBXO 360 headset and solder a clip-on mic to it... See instructions:

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/mods/xbox-360-controller-headset-wiring-diagram.htm

and
http://www.keygoods.com/headset.html

For $10 I don't mind getting the Datel adapter. I just don't know if you can get it in any B&M store.




Only on obscure ma and pa web retailers and ebay.. is all I've seen so far. That's the part that makes me skeptical. lol.. By the time i pay for the datel and the overpriced shipping these places charge...and a seperate mic.. I'll be almost 1/2 way buying the Trittons on sale at buy.com.


I really need to use my $369 set of frickin headphones though... be a shame to not be able to use them as good as they sound. ;)

http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/efx3/home.aspx <-- How are those?

I know they are kind of pricey... but I have the Pioneer SE-DIR800s and they frickin rock. In Vegas, I can hear a pin drop a 1/2 block away.

One call has them on sale right now also...

I have them as well, they are pretty sick. And their Dolby Headphone capabilities with the wireless headphones provided or its ability to work with any wired headphones is awesome!

I have them as well, they are pretty sick. And their Dolby Headphone capabilities with the wireless headphones provided or its ability to work with any wired headphones is awesome!


I actually bought an extra set of cans so me and my son could watch movies together on the projector after hours when the smaller kids in the house are snoozing. Love em! woot!

on another note... I said f%$k it and bought the Trittons from buy.com... used a new gmail account for $10 more off.. so $59 free shipping after rebate for 5.1 with a working microphone. I'll just use these for online MP and coop.

I just wish somehow the wife would understand when she discovers the charge. lol. :eek:

Dang it! Just when I had my mind set on the Senn 555 I read a post form someone looking for an amp... Apparently he found the volume in the Senn 555 connected to the XBOX360 too low... Now, I don't know if other owners agree with that, or that you can change the sound settings in XBX itself...

on another note... I said f%$k it and bought the Trittons from buy.com...

Congrats! I keep telling myself that ALL I need the cans for is Halo 3 so TRITTON remains a very interesting option... After you get the phones, can you let me know how the TRITTON compares to your Pio's -for gaming only- ? Especially if the surround mode makes any difference?

Cheers

I'm really glad to see this thread. I almost just started another one for audio noobs because I need a little schoolin' on the topic. I've wanted a set of really good 5.1 headphones for ages because I mostly play after the wife goes to sleep and I really miss out on being able to crank up the surround sound (I have to take off work early or work from home to do that anymore).

What I really want to know is what kind of specs do I want to look for in selecting a pair? I see things like "40mm drivers for deep bass, Neodymium magnet, Frequency response: 10Hz - 27kHz Sensitivity: 90dB/mW, Impedance: 32 ohms"

That's all wonderfull, but it means jack squat to me, the layman. I don't really want to pay more than $150-200, but at the same time I want all I can get for my money, and I want to have the surround sound features. Can I do that for under 200? Any suggestions?

Edit: I've been eyballing these badboys(TRITTON AX360 5.1): http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/07/073819.php

Dang it! Just when I had my mind set on the Senn 555 I read a post form someone looking for an amp... Apparently he found the volume in the Senn 555 connected to the XBOX360 too low... Now, I don't know if other owners agree with that, or that you can change the sound settings in XBX itself...



Congrats! I keep telling myself that ALL I need the cans for is Halo 3 so TRITTON remains a very interesting option... After you get the phones, can you let me know how the TRITTON compares to your Pio's -for gaming only- ? Especially if the surround mode makes any difference?

Cheers
If you have a reciever you can plug your 555's into the phone jack & have total control over the volume. Thats what I did before I got my Amp/DAC combo.

My goal is to circumvent any HT components.

The XBOX360 will be connected to my computer monitor using VGA and headphones directly to XBOX using a 1/4 female stereo jack to 2) RCA females adapter (like this (http://www.audiogear.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?key=Adpt2RcfQsf&preadd=action) one, or this (http://www.audiogear.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?key=ADPT-2RCFMSF&preadd=action) one)

Obviously, when using the JVC 5.1 adapter, TRITTON or EFX3 one uses the optical sound out in stead of a stereo adapter.

My goal is to circumvent any HT components.

The XBOX360 will be connected to my computer monitor using VGA and headphones directly to XBOX using a 1/4 female stereo jack to 2) RCA females adapter (like this (http://www.audiogear.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?key=Adpt2RcfQsf&preadd=action) one, or this (http://www.audiogear.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?key=ADPT-2RCFMSF&preadd=action) one)

Obviously, when using the JVC 5.1 adapter, TRITTON or EFX3 one uses the optical sound out in stead of a stereo adapter.
Yes. optical goes from the JVC to the 360.. Volume will be controlled with the JVC.. You will need one optical mini adaptor. You are free to have one of mine, or you can get them for 2.00 at monoprice.

Here are the specs, direct from the JVC website. Ignore the price. You can find them cheaper on Amazon.

http://www.jvcservice.com/store/ProductDetail.asp?part=SU-DH1

http://www.buy.com/prod/tritton-ax360-true-5-1-gaming-headphones-with-8-strategically-placed/q/loc/101/202636837.html

Got these and they are great with the 360. Games sound great as do the videos. They are great. Sound is really clear, and the bass is pretty good, they recreate the bass with rumble in the headphones and it works pretty well.

http://www.buy.com/prod/tritton-ax360-true-5-1-gaming-headphones-with-8-strategically-placed/q/loc/101/202636837.html

Got these and they are great with the 360. Games sound great as do the videos. They are great. Sound is really clear, and the bass is pretty good, they recreate the bass with rumble in the headphones and it works pretty well.

Yes. These headphones have been discussed.

I'm really glad to see this thread. I almost just started another one for audio noobs because I need a little schoolin' on the topic. I've wanted a set of really good 5.1 headphones for ages because I mostly play after the wife goes to sleep and I really miss out on being able to crank up the surround sound (I have to take off work early or work from home to do that anymore).

What I really want to know is what kind of specs do I want to look for in selecting a pair? I see things like "40mm drivers for deep bass, Neodymium magnet, Frequency response: 10Hz - 27kHz Sensitivity: 90dB/mW, Impedance: 32 ohms"

That's all wonderfull, but it means jack squat to me, the layman. I don't really want to pay more than $150-200, but at the same time I want all I can get for my money, and I want to have the surround sound features. Can I do that for under 200? Any suggestions?

Edit: I've been eyballing these badboys(TRITTON AX360 5.1): http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/07/073819.php

32 OHM means they can be driven easily from a portable device. Drivers range from 40-53MM. 10HZ-27KHz is the low end to the high end of the frequency response. All companies do differnt things with their drivers, diaphram & housing. Padding & damping material also effects the sound.

5.1 headphones with 8 speakers is a flawed design & is a marketing gimmick per se. Will they give you 5.1 sound? yes. But at the cost of a rumble function instead of true bass, & SQ will be compromised. Any headphone enigneer will tell you this. We have two ears so we need 2 channels, left & right. Let me explain. With convential 5.1 speakers it's different. the sound field engulfs you, & the speakers are placed far enough where its easily to detect wher shots are being fired, etc.. since the speakers are so close together in 5.1 headphones it can be more difficult to figure out the location of shots fired. & stereo headphones have the same benefits that 5.1 makers claim can only be achieved through 'true' 5.1 headphones, minus the out of head experience, but that to can be achieved using DD headphones DSP. Imaging. Clarity. Wide soundstage. incredible detail. Ect. can all be achieved with a good set of stereo headphones.

I'm not in the 5.1 headphones sound like crap category. They do as advertised, just not partically well..But well enough. & if you never heard a good stereo headphone (same price as the Trittons) I'm sure they will amaze you, & you will be more then happy with them.. But me, personally, I don't want to comprise SQ & true bass for SS effects. I'd recommend a SS adaptor & good stereo headphone to get trhe best of both worlds..

http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/efx3/home.aspx <-- How are those?

Not for sale yet.

I wonder how those new Turtle Beach ones will be for the casual gamer looking for some headphones. Do they simulate a 5.1 in any way? I wasn't able to find anything out in that regards about them.

I am clueless when it comes to headphones, but I have been really interested in getting some lately. Most of my gaming is done at night after my girlfriend goes to bed and I have basically been playing in silence. Boring. So anyways, I didn't realize there was all the "true" 5.1 phones and 5.1 adapters and DD for phones. I would like to get something that at least gives you some sort of sound direction as I've been playing GOW a lot and forgot what I've been missing until I turned up the surround the other day and completely improved the game and my performance.

So I guess my question is this. I have a cheaper Onkyo 5.1 reciever with DD and DTS decoding. Right now the 360 is input via optical. The reciever has a hefty jack for headphones on the front (by hefty I mean more RCA size, not 3.5 like my ipod). Would I be able to buy a decent pair of stereo headphones to plug in here and get simulated surround sound. The reciever would be decoding and outputing DD but it would not be "DD Headphone."
Then there is the whole xbox Live mic thing.
What would you guys suggest in this situation.

I wonder how those new Turtle Beach ones will be for the casual gamer looking for some headphones. Do they simulate a 5.1 in any way? I wasn't able to find anything out in that regards about them.

you can pre-order now, 99 with free shipping. no 5.1 just "expanded stereo"

good info in this video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OPWzVpx5MA

Bigjohn,

I'm in a similar situation as you, most of my gaming is done at night after everyone's turned in. Just get a good set of stereo headphones and you'll be a happy camper. The receiver will downmix the 5.1 output to 2.0.

Provided you get a good set of cans, SQ will still be excellent, with good directionality.

Comfort 8/10

so far. Will know more after a 2 hr gaming session. They are notably heavier than my Pioneer SE-DIR800Cs. But expected I guess.


Sound Quality 8/10

The rumble bass is a neat feature that compliments the vibration in the controller and felt pretty cool while watching 300 with them on. I would probably have gave them a 9/10 had it not for the set of Pioneer SE-DIR800C i have laying here to compare them with. lol.

Ease of use 5/10

There are abig ass bunch of cables to mess with and the controller box has + and - adjustments but no way of knowing the adjustment.. just have to start at default of 0 and count the clicks. :confused:

Quality 6/10

Everything seems a little cheap but mostly solid with exception on the little wire that dangles from the headset when your plugged in to your controller. I can see this wire being a point of failure if not gently cared for. They do however come with a nice assortment of cables so you don't have to buy any extra cables to get going.

Overall 7/10

Yes, I reccomend buy them if you can score them for under $100. They aren't the greatest, but they server thier purpose well and offer alot of features for a cheap set of cans. And most importantly, they seem to work as advertised.


PS.. the trick to using an external Mic with LIVE is all in the audio setting within your live profile. Set it to use both for audio. :D

Comfort 8/10

so far. Will know more after a 2 hr gaming session. They are notably heavier than my Pioneer SE-DIR800Cs. But expected I guess.


Sound Quality 8/10

The rumble bass is a neat feature that compliments the vibration in the controller and felt pretty cool while watching 300 with them on. I would probably have gave them a 9/10 had it not for the set of Pioneer SE-DIR800C i have laying here to compare them with. lol.

Ease of use 5/10

There are abig ass bunch of cables to mess with and the controller box has + and - adjustments but no way of knowing the adjustment.. just have to start at default of 0 and count the clicks. :confused:

Quality 6/10

Everything seems a little cheap but mostly solid with exception on the little wire that dangles from the headset when your plugged in to your controller. I can see this wire being a point of failure if not gently cared for. They do however come with a nice assortment of cables so you don't have to buy any extra cables to get going.

Overall 7/10

Yes, I reccomend buy them if you can score them for under $100. They aren't the greatest, but they server thier purpose well and offer alot of features for a cheap set of cans. And most importantly, they seem to work as advertised.


PS.. the trick to using an external Mic with LIVE is all in the audio setting within your live profile. Set it to use both for audio. :D

What Stereo headphones have you compared them too?

The only thing I have besides the Trittons is the Pioneer SE-DIR800Cs.

:D

Thanks Dogmanky for taking the time to write up your findings.

The only thing I have besides the Trittons is the Pioneer SE-DIR800Cs.

:D

ah. ok.

I've been using Tritton AX360 since they hit the market (2005? Early 2006? don't recall when).

I like them. Sure there are limitations but I personally like their 8 speaker set up. To the person who said hearing dialogue is tough on movies, I've watched SD-DVD's, HD-DVD's, and Blu-ray with them for sound and dialogue hasn't been a problem. Of course in-line controls have to be tweaked for different inputs, but that is expected.

As far as game play where location of sound is important (Say Halo 2/3), I found this to work well. No complaints, including size as these fit comfortably. I also haven't had trouble with the mic, but it is cheaply made.

What stinks about the product is the lack of DTS decoding. It is disappointing when you have a blu ray risk with Uncomped PCM and DTS-MA tracks, and you have to use the DD 5.1 + track, but the receiver only decodes it as regular dd 5.1. Considering this is for XBOX/XBOX 360 primarily, it makes total sense.

I recently contacted the company to order another set of headphones (the receiver can support up to two at one time but currently the company has not starting selling spare headsets in stores), which they will sell to me directly for $60/each.

I've been using Tritton AX360 since they hit the market (2005? Early 2006? don't recall when).

I like them. Sure there are limitations but I personally like their 8 speaker set up. To the person who said hearing dialogue is tough on movies, I've watched SD-DVD's, HD-DVD's, and Blu-ray with them for sound and dialogue hasn't been a problem. Of course in-line controls have to be tweaked for different inputs, but that is expected.

As far as game play where location of sound is important (Say Halo 2/3), I found this to work well. No complaints, including size as these fit comfortably. I also haven't had trouble with the mic, but it is cheaply made.

What stinks about the product is the lack of DTS decoding. It is disappointing when you have a blu ray risk with Uncomped PCM and DTS-MA tracks, and you have to use the DD 5.1 + track, but the receiver only decodes it as regular dd 5.1. Considering this is for XBOX/XBOX 360 primarily, it makes total sense.

I recently contacted the company to order another set of headphones (the receiver can support up to two at one time but currently the company has not starting selling spare headsets in stores), which they will sell to me directly for $60/each.
Yes, they deliver as advertised..albeit the majority who compared the Trittons to the Pioneers, which use stereo headphones with DD 5.1 DSP, tend to favor the Pioneer in both SQ & SS effects.. So the whole 'true' 5.1 headset is marketing brainwash to me. I'm ultra picky cause headphones are a passion of mine. & I seen, urr, heard how great stereo headphones can sound. I used my friends Zalmans, & they were fun, SS effects were good, but over the long run I'd rather have my stereo headphones that did everything better minus the SS effects, but there are 5.1 adaptors & recievers that support DD headphone jacks.
I also have no problem with location with my stereo headphones. Maybe its because I have hi end headphones? Stereo headphones are capable of giving you a out of head experience. binaural recordings prove this, & it's like audio 3D:eek:

would you all suggest the trittons or the turtle beach ones? they are within about 20 bucks of each other....

Hum... Well, these dont really have a microphone or anything, but they have the advangae of being DIRT CHEEP. How does $15 sound?

http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/item/20710

Also at Walmart:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5544249

My roomate (halo NUT) swears by them. I bought two pares, one just for the decoder portion I hacked to work with some 7.1 comptuer speakers for a friend and a second pare to use in gaming. Have to say, they work pretty well for that. Music and movies are HORIBLE, but if you want to be able to pin-point where people are by sound they get the job done.

is it possible to use the tritton phones with only a 360 hooked up to a tv? i dont have surround sound or a receiver in my bedroom, but this is where i want to use the headphone.

is it possible to use the tritton phones with only a 360 hooked up to a tv? i dont have surround sound or a receiver in my bedroom, but this is where i want to use the headphone.

yes, you take the toslink from the xbox and plug it into the tritton module.

Hum... Well, these dont really have a microphone or anything, but they have the advangae of being DIRT CHEEP. How does $15 sound?

http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/item/20710

Also at Walmart:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5544249

My roomate (halo NUT) swears by them. I bought two pares, one just for the decoder portion I hacked to work with some 7.1 comptuer speakers for a friend and a second pare to use in gaming. Have to say, they work pretty well for that. Music and movies are HORIBLE, but if you want to be able to pin-point where people are by sound they get the job done.

Odd. I figured they would be awful for music, but I thought theyed be decent for movies..

I'm in the same boat here wanting some gaming/music headphones. My seating position is about 15' away from my components. However, I plan on getting a male/female cable from monoprice for about $5 and run it under my baseboard to my chair. Doing this rules out wireless as a hard requirement.

I've researched this thread as well has some threads at head-fi and wherever else I ended up. From all that I've read I'm pretty certain that I don't need 5.1 surround as it seems to be to headphones what Bose is to speakers (underperforming marketing crap). I narrowed myself down to the Sennheiser brand so that I could get myself out of being overwelmed by all the choices, but I'm still open to other brand suggestions.

The models I've chosen are:

HD-555 Price/performance balance
280-Pro Price
HD-595 Performance

Also, I'd like to use Amazon since I've got $50 in credit there.

I have a Harmon Kardon AVR-635 which has a Dolby Headphone jack. Is this a good thing for the 360 or would I need some sort of additional processor?

My current plan is to get the HD-555 and see how I like them. Then later get the 280-Pro and use at work for XM radio streaming and mp3 use or get the HD-595 to replace the HD-555 and bring those to work. My work headphones are some closed Sony $30 ones that have been resoldered due to a wire breaking and now the headpiece needs superglued and the padding cover is ripping.

Thanks for any input.

I'm in the same boat here wanting some gaming/music headphones. My seating position is about 15' away from my components. However, I plan on getting a male/female cable from monoprice for about $5 and run it under my baseboard to my chair. Doing this rules out wireless as a hard requirement.

I've researched this thread as well has some threads at head-fi and wherever else I ended up. From all that I've read I'm pretty certain that I don't need 5.1 surround as it seems to be to headphones what Bose is to speakers (underperforming marketing crap). I narrowed myself down to the Sennheiser brand so that I could get myself out of being overwelmed by all the choices, but I'm still open to other brand suggestions.

The models I've chosen are:

HD-555 Price/performance balance
280-Pro Price
HD-595 Performance

Also, I'd like to use Amazon since I've got $50 in credit there.

I have a Harmon Kardon AVR-635 which has a Dolby Headphone jack. Is this a good thing for the 360 or would I need some sort of additional processor?

My current plan is to get the HD-555 and see how I like them. Then later get the 280-Pro and use at work for XM radio streaming and mp3 use or get the HD-595 to replace the HD-555 and bring those to work. My work headphones are some closed Sony $30 ones that have been resoldered due to a wire breaking and now the headpiece needs superglued and the padding cover is ripping.

Thanks for any input.

I just ordered the Sennheiser HD280Silver for $83 based on comments here at AVS and many other great reviews. When I get them, I will post back my impressions.

I'm in the same boat here wanting some gaming/music headphones. My seating position is about 15' away from my components. However, I plan on getting a male/female cable from monoprice for about $5 and run it under my baseboard to my chair. Doing this rules out wireless as a hard requirement.

I've researched this thread as well has some threads at head-fi and wherever else I ended up. From all that I've read I'm pretty certain that I don't need 5.1 surround as it seems to be to headphones what Bose is to speakers (underperforming marketing crap). I narrowed myself down to the Sennheiser brand so that I could get myself out of being overwelmed by all the choices, but I'm still open to other brand suggestions.

The models I've chosen are:

HD-555 Price/performance balance
280-Pro Price
HD-595 Performance

Also, I'd like to use Amazon since I've got $50 in credit there.

I have a Harmon Kardon AVR-635 which has a Dolby Headphone jack. Is this a good thing for the 360 or would I need some sort of additional processor?

My current plan is to get the HD-555 and see how I like them. Then later get the 280-Pro and use at work for XM radio streaming and mp3 use or get the HD-595 to replace the HD-555 and bring those to work. My work headphones are some closed Sony $30 ones that have been resoldered due to a wire breaking and now the headpiece needs superglued and the padding cover is ripping.

Thanks for any input.

The 595's. Very fun for gaming. The Dolby Headphone jack is fine. Will give you the SS effects without compromising the SQ & bass.

I've been using Tritton AX360 since they hit the market (2005? Early 2006? don't recall when).

I like them. Sure there are limitations but I personally like their 8 speaker set up. To the person who said hearing dialogue is tough on movies, I've watched SD-DVD's, HD-DVD's, and Blu-ray with them for sound and dialogue hasn't been a problem. Of course in-line controls have to be tweaked for different inputs, but that is expected.


Think that was me about dialogue on the Tritton headphones, not saying I couldn't hear it though, just saying dialogue sounded noticably crappy and I blame that on the little drivers. And I didn't like the bass simulating rumble, it did something to my head making me not want to game. But that's just me, surprised me because I didn't consider myself an audiophile but the Trittons for me just didn't sound good and were not comfortable after about 20 minuts. So having experienced that I would say I'd sacrifice the 5.1 for good sound and real bass.

Thanks! I ordered a pair.


How are they?

Did anyone figure out if the Datel adapter was needed for a clip on mic? or figure anyway to use a clip on mic with a normal set of headphones?

I bought a pair of the AKG DJ 81's and I love them. They are portable (fold up) and they have a GREAT low end. They are on the ear instead of over the ear, which I prefer to let my ear's breath a little. Check em out

http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/akg-k-81-dj.php

Yes.. They surpass the 5.1 headphones IMO..

Yes.. They surpass the 5.1 headphones IMO..
KBI -- I've been following this thread since it began, and since you're the self-proclaimed Heaphone Czar, I value your opinion. In the above post, what are you saying "yes" to and what are "they" which surpass the 5.1 headphones? I'm confused.

Wha'chu talkin' about, Willis? ;)

There are two types 5.1 headphones:

* those include multiple drivers in each earcpu to claim 5.1 surround effects. Useless and don't waste your money even though they are relatively cheaper. Stack 2 or 3 speakers/drivers in each ear does not creat surround effects. I personally tried 4 to 5 different such products and they all suck. None of them generate any real surround effects at all.

* those that use dedicated DSP processor to create surround effects via a regular headphone. Only two technology that work well: Dolby Headphone and Sony's properitary technology. These are expensive. Pioneer has couple models (around $300) and Sony has one model (>$800). They do work well with great surround sound effects and wireless too.

I have a pair of Pioneer version of Dolby Headphone SE-DIR800C. Easily the best 5.1 surround headphones I've ever owned for movie and XBox gaming. You can also plug in your own favorite headhone to the unit base to get the same fantastic surround effects. There was a comparison a few years back by Maximum PC between this unit and the Sony version. Sony is even better. But it's way too expensive to me.

You don't have to sacrifice 5.1 surround sound effects for sound quality!

Hi,

I also have some sound questions. I have 2 360s. One goes to an amp. One doesn't. The 2nd 360 needs sound. How do I connect it to headphones? Optical out or the rca? How would I control the volume? Is the 360 output loud enough? What is the best choice for under 150$ and is there any good 5.1 sets? Voice communication is not that important. We are sitting next to each other. Is there any options for volume control that is extremely small? It is the 360 on the left in the small shelf space in the photo. Any suggestions?

yes, you take the toslink from the xbox and plug it into the tritton module.

Can this headphone system Pioneer SE-DIR800C be used together with AV Receiver?

I use my Onkyo Receiver for daytime gaming on the 360 and would like to use these Pioneer SE-DIR800C late at night. Does the Pioneer SE-DIR800C have an optical output to the receiver?

or would I need some kind of Optical Toslink splitter?

Can this headphone system Pioneer SE-DIR800C be used together with AV Receiver?

I use my Onkyo Receiver for daytime gaming on the 360 and would like to use these Pioneer SE-DIR800C late at night. Does the Pioneer SE-DIR800C have an optical output to the receiver?

or would I need some kind of Optical Toslink splitter?


It has one optical in, one coax in and one analog stereo in but no optical out. Some receivers have optical out, however.

KBI -- I've been following this thread since it began, and since you're the self-proclaimed Heaphone Czar, I value your opinion. In the above post, what are you saying "yes" to and what are "they" which surpass the 5.1 headphones? I'm confused.

Wha'chu talkin' about, Willis? ;)

I was refering to the AKG DJ 81's for gaming. 2 larger quality drivers will always be better then 8 small, subpar drivers with a rumble effect instead of bass..

There are two types 5.1 headphones:

* those include multiple drivers in each earcpu to claim 5.1 surround effects. Useless and don't waste your money even though they are relatively cheaper. Stack 2 or 3 speakers/drivers in each ear does not creat surround effects. I personally tried 4 to 5 different such products and they all suck. None of them generate any real surround effects at all.

* those that use dedicated DSP processor to create surround effects via a regular headphone. Only two technology that work well: Dolby Headphone and Sony's properitary technology. These are expensive. Pioneer has couple models (around $300) and Sony has one model (>$800). They do work well with great surround sound effects and wireless too.

I have a pair of Pioneer version of Dolby Headphone SE-DIR800C. Easily the best 5.1 surround headphones I've ever owned for movie and XBox gaming. You can also plug in your own favorite headhone to the unit base to get the same fantastic surround effects. There was a comparison a few years back by Maximum PC between this unit and the Sony version. Sony is even better. But it's way too expensive to me.

You don't have to sacrifice 5.1 surround sound effects for sound quality!

Try telling that to the Xbox crowd.. Cause it's 'fake' SS, not 'real' SS..The marketing has worked..

I was intensively researching headphones 'bout three weeks ago when I tumbled upon this great thread.

Since then I bought my cans. I decided to go with the Sennheiser HD595. I know that this is not the cheapest out there - I bought it for 170 from "the Bay", new.

I based my purchasing decision on the followings:

Headphone technology is matured enough and is not expected to change radically. Just like with speakers, it is reasonable to buy a better set for a little more money – it won't get outdated quick unlike some other electronics.

I wanted a solid, over-the-ear set with open-air design. It is true that hey make you look just like Princess Leila, but they tend to be very comfortable (no sweaty ears) and they sound fabulous thanks to bigger drivers. I don't plan on wearing them outside my house anyway…

Sennheisers are constantly on the top. The 595 is a great buy in particular – it is a newer design with extremely low impedance, so even today's small audio devices can drive it with their weak amps. (I tried two other headphones on the underpowered "headphone out" connection of my receiver, and they pretty much sounded like cr@p with a lot of background noise. So I was a little concerned when first trying out the 595, and it sounded effortless and super clean even at lower volumes. Bingo!)

(Word of caution – there are two versions out there, the one I am referring to has a lower, 50-Ohm impedance – don't buy the 120-Ohm version – you might have to purchase a separate headphone amp for that one, and those are a little on the expensive side!)

There are other great solutions out there for differing needs, but I can recommend this one whole-heartedly.

Try telling that to the Xbox crowd.. Cause it's 'fake' SS, not 'real' SS..The marketing has worked..


True. Anyone who has a little knowlegde of physics can tell that stack 10 drivers in one ear won't give you the same effect as separate speakers that are actually behind you.

Thanks for the 595 review. They were at the top of my list and I was getting ready to order them last week. However, I just bought two iPhones so my headphone budget went into negative territory. Now I have a couple months to do some more research.

The 595's are great, I may eventually get a pair for home, but I wanted something I could also use on my commute so "open air" and "Princess Leila" were out of the question on a train and subway (LOL).

The K81's aren't the most "accurate" headphones you can find out there but they are one of the most "fun" complete with a nice low end that I can consider portable. I don't really like IEM (inner ear monitors), so I was looking for a full size headset with portability.

Plus they just look cool as I get a lot of people asking me where I got them... if you never plan to take them out in public and don't mind sound leakage open air is the way to go.

Hi,

I also have some sound questions. I have 2 360s. One goes to an amp. One doesn't. The 2nd 360 needs sound. How do I connect it to headphones? Optical out or the rca? How would I control the volume? Is the 360 output loud enough? What is the best choice for under 150$ and is there any good 5.1 sets? Voice communication is not that important. We are sitting next to each other. Is there any options for volume control that is extremely small? It is the 360 on the left in the small shelf space in the photo. Any suggestions?

See the web links (provided in my earlier post or see this (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103710&cp=2032058.2032231.2032280&allCount=315&fbn=Cable+type%2FY-adapters&f=PAD%2FCable+Type%2FY-adapters&fbc=1&parentPage=family) one) to the adapters I mentioned earlier (the ones from 2 female RCA to 1/8" stereo). Then you get a female jack-female jack adapter (aka as coupler) to connect a headphone set. Example here (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102671&cp=2032058.2032231.2032280&pg=1&allCount=315&fbn=Cable+type%2FCouplers&f=PAD%2FCable+Type%2FCouplers&fbc=1&parentPage=family). You cannot control the volume with this. The other option -which I personally like very much- is the 5.1 JVC controller as mentioned by KBI. This will give you 5.1 SS and volume control.

See the web links (provided in my earlier post or see this (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103710&cp=2032058.2032231.2032280&allCount=315&fbn=Cable+type%2FY-adapters&f=PAD%2FCable+Type%2FY-adapters&fbc=1&parentPage=family) one) to the adapters I mentioned earlier (the ones from 2 female RCA to 1/8" stereo). Then you get a female jack-female jack adapter (aka as coupler) to connect a headphone set. Example here (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102671&cp=2032058.2032231.2032280&pg=1&allCount=315&fbn=Cable+type%2FCouplers&f=PAD%2FCable+Type%2FCouplers&fbc=1&parentPage=family). You cannot control the volume with this. The other option -which I personally like very much- is the 5.1 JVC controller as mentioned by KBI. This will give you 5.1 SS and volume control.

TY. Glad you like it.

OJ, did you get your DT880's yet?

Thanks. Does the jvc have a ac power option? I don't want any battery thingies. I am thinking of a headphone power amp like this for 20$:

http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-Ultra-Compact-4-Channel-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B000SJHNB2******pd_bbs_sr_2/002-0965617-5826429?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1189632778&sr=8-2

anyone have any other suggestions for a small ac powered cheap headphone amp?

Can you output sound from the 360 via usb?


See the web links (provided in my earlier post or see this (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103710&cp=2032058.2032231.2032280&allCount=315&fbn=Cable+type%2FY-adapters&f=PAD%2FCable+Type%2FY-adapters&fbc=1&parentPage=family) one) to the adapters I mentioned earlier (the ones from 2 female RCA to 1/8" stereo). Then you get a female jack-female jack adapter (aka as coupler) to connect a headphone set. Example here (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102671&cp=2032058.2032231.2032280&pg=1&allCount=315&fbn=Cable+type%2FCouplers&f=PAD%2FCable+Type%2FCouplers&fbc=1&parentPage=family). You cannot control the volume with this. The other option -which I personally like very much- is the 5.1 JVC controller as mentioned by KBI. This will give you 5.1 SS and volume control.

Before stumbling on this thread I ordered X3 headphones from Turtle Beach which should ship next week. I hope they're good.

OJ, did you get your DT880's yet?

I am going to get the Senn 595 plus the JVC 5.1 adapter. I haven't bought the Senns yet as I am waiting for a better price. Once they're below $150, I will be in... :D

Before stumbling on this thread I ordered X3 headphones from Turtle Beach which should ship next week. I hope they're good.

Yes, please, let us know. You'll be the first -I think- to report the experience.

I am going to get the Senn 595 plus the JVC 5.1 adapter. I haven't bought the Senns yet as I am waiting for a better price. Once they're below $150, I will be in... :D
If and when you buy this package, please post a review... I'm on the fence right now about the JVC SU-DH1 (surround sound headphone adaptor) and I'm looking for an honest review before I take the plunge.
I do most of my gaming late at night, so headphones is the only way to go. Currently I use a cheap pair of headphones, which sound okay, but they're only in stereo. I'd really like to know just how much of a difference that JVC surround adaptor really makes...
I'm thinking of buying the SU-DH1 and using my current headphones - just for the dolby headphone simulated surround - and upgrade the headphones at a later date.
So, anyway, if you buy it, please do post a review. TIA!

Can this headphone system Pioneer SE-DIR800C be used together with AV Receiver?

I use my Onkyo Receiver for daytime gaming on the 360 and would like to use these Pioneer SE-DIR800C late at night. Does the Pioneer SE-DIR800C have an optical output to the receiver?

or would I need some kind of Optical Toslink splitter?

Well I would use the optical out from your receiver for the Pio headphones . Some Onkyos don't have optical out like the new 605. Thats what I was doing till I sold my trusty pio elite receiver (now I am planning to upgrade to the new Pio Elite 91 which has built in surround heaphone from what I read)
But just for info the Pio Headphones in a word amazing!!!! Highly recommended.

Before stumbling on this thread I ordered X3 headphones from Turtle Beach which should ship next week. I hope they're good.

I'm sure you'll like them. Let us know..

I am going to get the Senn 595 plus the JVC 5.1 adapter. I haven't bought the Senns yet as I am waiting for a better price. Once they're below $150, I will be in... :D

Can't wait. I think you will really enjoy them. Lowest I seen them for new is 154.00..

Thanks. Does the jvc have a ac power option? I don't want any battery thingies. I am thinking of a headphone power amp like this for 20$:

http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-Ultra-Compact-4-Channel-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B000SJHNB2******pd_bbs_sr_2/002-0965617-5826429?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1189632778&sr=8-2

anyone have any other suggestions for a small ac powered cheap headphone amp?

Can you output sound from the 360 via usb?

Theres a supped up mcoy on ebay for 39.00.. Special sale.. Will be going up to 60.00 soon.. & is comparable to 100.00 head phone amps..

Can't wait. I think you will really enjoy them. Lowest I seen them for new is 154.00..

I bit the bullet... Got the HD 595 for $170 (including shipping) from E bay. Now on to the JVC 5.1... Best price I have seen is $80 (buy com minus the $10 for new customer)

could anyone named a few sub-$150 wireless headphones with bases that have optical inputs? and decent sound...

I bit the bullet... Got the HD 595 for $170 (including shipping) from E bay. Now on to the JVC 5.1... Best price I have seen is $80 (buy com minus the $10 for new customer)

Seen one refurbed for 70.00 at Amazon. It was the one I was looking at before balancing my headphones..

KBI, (or anyone else who knows)

What is your opinion of Dolby Headphone? I am hopefully getting a new receiver, and I want to know if this feature is one I should care about. Does it work the same way as any other stand alone 5.1 decoder like the JVC box? Do you know how it compares?

Is there a list of receivers that have Dolby Headphone?

One more Q. If you hook your headphones into the receiver, then I am assuming that the receiver powers them so that there is no need to buy an amp. Is this correct?

Okay, just one more. I have the Grado SR125's. They sound wonderful, but they hurt my ears, so I am thinking of getting an additional pair for gaming and movies. So has anybody out there listened to the Grado's and the Senn's that could offer me a comparison?

As far as head phone technology goes, Dolby Headphone, a licensed technology from Dolby Lab, is far better than those so-called "true 5.1" headphones. From what I read, the JVC box also support Dolby Headphone although I don't quite understand why you need a precision DC Servo motor for(according to JVC spec sheet posted by KBI) :)

Some receiver supports Dolby Headphone output. Some don't.

Is the decoding done in a receiver with Dolby Headphone the same or at least similar to the JVC decoder?

Decodings are all the same and easy to do. The trick with Dolby Headphone is the special processing algorithm to simulate 5.1 surround effect through regular stereo headphones.

So using stereo headphones with a receiver with Dolby Headphone and using them with the JVC 5.1 decoder will yield the same results?

If so, then I would like to at least try to find a receiver that I liked with Dolby Headphone and then buy the Senn's.

In theory, yes. But I have no experience with any Dolby Headphone supported receivers. I like my pioneer Dolby Headphone because it is also wireless (IR) that beats any other wireless headphones I tried in terms of sound quality, clearity and noises, Dolby or not.

If my budget was a little bigger that is exactly what I would get. I may hold out for them yet.

I use the Medusa 5.1's from Speed-Link for my PC gaming and they are great. So I know that 5.1 headphones can sound good if done right.

I use the Grado SR125's for critical listening, but they are painful to my ears after more than 30 minutes (on ear) so I need something else (over ear) for games and movies. Now all I have to do is convince the better half that this is a necessity.

KBI, (or anyone else who knows)

What is your opinion of Dolby Headphone? I am hopefully getting a new receiver, and I want to know if this feature is one I should care about. Does it work the same way as any other stand alone 5.1 decoder like the JVC box? Do you know how it compares?

Is there a list of receivers that have Dolby Headphone?

One more Q. If you hook your headphones into the receiver, then I am assuming that the receiver powers them so that there is no need to buy an amp. Is this correct?

Okay, just one more. I have the Grado SR125's. They sound wonderful, but they hurt my ears, so I am thinking of getting an additional pair for gaming and movies. So has anybody out there listened to the Grado's and the Senn's that could offer me a comparison?

Dolby headphone is awesome. I know the HK 247 receiver supports DD headphones along with a few other past models. The headphone jack in the receiver powers your headphones. Yes. Some do a better job at it then others.

about the grado's.. Have you tried the grado flat pads? http://www.ttvj.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=14&sort=20a&page=3

This will help.

What Senn model do you want to compare to the Grado? Typically Grado's are bright, very upfront, where you are on stage with the artist.. Good with guitars, with a tight snappy bass.. Aggressive in your face presentation.. With a small sound stage..

I only tried 3 senn cans.. The 212pro/595/650.. Sold my 595 & still have the other two.. Senns in general are a total opposite of the Grado house sound, especially the 650's, which sound dark, slow, & boring incomparison. They put you 10 rows back, but have a wide sound stage with a lush seductive mid range. Very mellow & relaxing cans.. The 595's & 212pro's are more of a mixture of both, but still maintain the sen house sound.

So using stereo headphones with a receiver with Dolby Headphone and using them with the JVC 5.1 decoder will yield the same results?

If so, then I would like to at least try to find a receiver that I liked with Dolby Headphone and then buy the Senn's.

The JVC 5.1 Adaptor supports DD 5.1.. Has a built in amp.. Just need to plug your headphones into the JVC headphone jack & the optical cable into your Audio card/Gaming console/DVD/CD player. This way is cheaper then buying a receiver that supports DD headphones. I'm looking into getting the HK receiver but the lowest price I could find was 400.00. I know JVC has a receiver that has 3D headphone support?? Or something like that for 200.00. But I prefer DD 5.1 headphone cause they are the best..

If my budget was a little bigger that is exactly what I would get. I may hold out for them yet.

I use the Medusa 5.1's from Speed-Link for my PC gaming and they are great. So I know that 5.1 headphones can sound good if done right.

I use the Grado SR125's for critical listening, but they are painful to my ears after more than 30 minutes (on ear) so I need something else (over ear) for games and movies. Now all I have to do is convince the better half that this is a necessity.
But when you use 6 or 8 subpar drivers you sacrifice SQ for the SS effects. Thats why no headphone company has put out a 5.1 headphone with 8 drivers. They know it doesn't work well. & a lot of them substitute bass for a rumble function. I used my friends Zalmans, & they are fun, far from awful.. But they have too many limitations to be my main gaming cans.. But, I'd still use them over my regular headphones for a change of pace from time to time.. I rotate all my headphones. I have 3 right now. The Sen 650/Sony SA5000/ & the 30 yr old AKG hybrid wonders the 340's..

Thanks for the info on Dolby Headphone. It sounds like it is an acceptable alternative to the JVC decoder.

Also thanks for the heads up on the flat pads. I had wondered if something like that was out there. I think I will get these for my Grado's. I noticed that the flat pads are $30 and the soft pads are $10 and are not suppose to be as good. But the site suggested cutting a hole the size of a quarter in the soft pads to help with the sound quality. Do you think this would be acceptable, or should I pony up the extra bucks for the flat pads?

I was going to compare the Grado's to the 555's or 595's. Don't know if I can swing the 595's though.

I am not sure which type of sound I would prefer in a headphone. I really need to try the Senn's out, but I can't find them anywhere in the Kansas City Metro area yet.

My HT system is Klipsch Reference series (dual 8" for the fronts) which is more in line with the Grados than the Senn's. What sites do you recommend for reviews?

I've been exhaustively researching for a set of wireless headphones since this thread started and today I found this fair comparison.

Wireless cans reviewed (http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-7877_7-6216580-1.html)

Now, in all honestly I'd prefer to buy Sennheisers 555's but, I sit far away from my larger tv. I currently own a pair of SONY MDR-V500's that have done a good job with music for the last 10years of ownership

Thanks for the info on Dolby Headphone. It sounds like it is an acceptable alternative to the JVC decoder.

Also thanks for the heads up on the flat pads. I had wondered if something like that was out there. I think I will get these for my Grado's. I noticed that the flat pads are $30 and the soft pads are $10 and are not suppose to be as good. But the site suggested cutting a hole the size of a quarter in the soft pads to help with the sound quality. Do you think this would be acceptable, or should I pony up the extra bucks for the flat pads?

I was going to compare the Grado's to the 555's or 595's. Don't know if I can swing the 595's though.

I am not sure which type of sound I would prefer in a headphone. I really need to try the Senn's out, but I can't find them anywhere in the Kansas City Metro area yet.

My HT system is Klipsch Reference series (dual 8" for the fronts) which is more in line with the Grados than the Senn's. What sites do you recommend for reviews?

Yes, the quarter mod works great. Go to Grado's website they have a list of reviews for all their headphones. For Sen's I'd do a goggle..

I've been exhaustively researching for a set of wireless headphones since this thread started and today I found this fair comparison.

Wireless cans reviewed (http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-7877_7-6216580-1.html)

Now, in all honestly I'd prefer to buy Sennheisers 555's but, I sit far away from my larger tv. I currently own a pair of SONY MDR-V500's that have done a good job with music for the last 10years of ownership
If they are of the 5.1 variety I'd go with the Pioneer or the sony. Id go to headfi.com for non 5.1 wireless recomendations. I have no clue what wireless models are the best on the market today. I prefer wired.

Before stumbling on this thread I ordered X3 headphones from Turtle Beach which should ship next week. I hope they're good.

Yes, please let us know.

I actually had the X2 but returned them. The sound was fantastic but you literally heard EVERY sound on the map at the same time. It was so annoying. I didn't realize how much I relied on sound while playing games.

Can this headphone system Pioneer SE-DIR800C be used together with AV Receiver?

I use my Onkyo Receiver for daytime gaming on the 360 and would like to use these Pioneer SE-DIR800C late at night. Does the Pioneer SE-DIR800C have an optical output to the receiver?

or would I need some kind of Optical Toslink splitter?

Couldn't you just hook the Pioneer up to your Onkyo and leave it at that?

I mean, if your 360 is piped into the Onkyo during the day, you should be able to just connect the Pioneers to the receiver and listen to the 360 sound via that...right?

Doing it the way you mentioned, from the 360, to the Pioneers, to the receiver...seems awkward. You should just be able to connect the headset to the receiver and hear whatever the receiver is set to through the headphones. This way you can listen to the 360, listen to TV or movies or whatever else your receiver outputs.

I've been following this thread since it started. Tons of great information on a really good subject..

and I don't think there's anything cooler than being known as the "Headphone Czar"

/tips hat

Yes, please let us know.

I actually had the X2 but returned them. The sound was fantastic but you literally heard EVERY sound on the map at the same time. It was so annoying. I didn't realize how much I relied on sound while playing games.

Thats what you want..

I've been following this thread since it started. Tons of great information on a really good subject..

and I don't think there's anything cooler than being known as the "Headphone Czar"

/tips hat
Thanks!

Czar = googler extrordanaire.

Czar = googler extrordanaire.

Not sure how to take that.. Seems like a insult. I'm very informed about headphones, & get most of my info from headfi.com.. The leading website on all things headphones.. I been a headphone junkie since june of last yr, & daily get my fixing on headphones, amps, dacs, etc.. I live for the stuff.. Think about upgrading 24/7.. If you think I just pull things out of my ass, cough google cough you are sadly mistaken.

So much stroking around here I thought I was at a teenage boy convention of the Alba Fan Club. Just had to check the vibe a lil bit. Carry on..

So much stroking around here I thought I was at a teenage boy convention of the Alba Fan Club. Just had to check the vibe a lil bit. Carry on..

+1

So much stroking around here I thought I was at a teenage boy convention of the Alba Fan Club. Just had to check the vibe a lil bit. Carry on..
You meaning thanking someone for helping them..

In my opinion the difference between sens 555 and 595 is very small. My friend thought it would be cool to get 595's just to one up me. Couple days later at a local Halo LAN we compared the two it was really hard to distinguish them. We had a couple people try both of them and tell us which was better and they couldnt decide. Mind you this was only Halo 2 so you know maybe movies and music sound much better on 595's or something its completely possible. Just thought I would throw that out there, maybe save someone some money.

Also Bioshock with headphones on at night is downright freaky man I almost jumped out of my couch this one time.

In my opinion the difference between sens 555 and 595 is very small. My friend thought it would be cool to get 595's just to one up me. Couple days later at a local Halo LAN we compared the two it was really hard to distinguish them. We had a couple people try both of them and tell us which was better and they couldnt decide. Mind you this was only Halo 2 so you know maybe movies and music sound much better on 595's or something its completely possible. Just thought I would throw that out there, maybe save someone some money.

Also Bioshock with headphones on at night is downright freaky man I almost jumped out of my couch this one time.
Odd. The 595's have a different (better) driver & is known in the audio circle to be a pretty big upgrade over the 555's.

Odd. The 595's have a different (better) driver & is known in the audio circle to be a pretty big upgrade over the 555's.

he only had one source to demo the 2 cans so, I hardly call that a fair comparison as he even said it could be better with music and movies since they only used Halo 2

About the open back design of the Sen 555 and 595. Exactly how loud are they outside the phones? Loud enough to pass through a closed door? Or just a nuisance to someone trying to read on the same couch your playing on?

he only had one source to demo the 2 cans so, I hardly call that a fair comparison as he even said it could be better with music and movies since they only used Halo 2

True. Very true.

About the open back design of the Sen 555 and 595. Exactly how loud are they outside the phones? Loud enough to pass through a closed door? Or just a nuisance to someone trying to read on the same couch your playing on?

pass through a closed door? No.

True. Very true.

I know you knew and I as well found it odd that folks couldn't pick a set. Granted the conditions and users might've been another factor:D

I know you knew and I as well found it odd that folks couldn't pick a set. Granted the conditions and users might've been another factor:D

:)

anyone review the x3's yet?

NTW81 and B51cole: Why not keep your thoughts to yourself and pass on the meaningless, borderline insulting, no value-adding posts. :mad:

NTW81 and B51cole: Why not keep your thoughts to yourself and pass on the meaningless, borderline insulting, no value-adding posts. :mad:

Get your 595s yet?

NTW81 and B51cole: Why not keep your thoughts to yourself and pass on the meaningless, borderline insulting, no value-adding posts. :mad:


:)

like this one too??

think about that one for a while....... and you're welcome.:eek:

So, today I have ordered the Senn 555, the JVC SS Adapter, as well as the obligatory mini optical adapter. It should all be here by Friday. I'll post impressions if anyone is interested in the Senn 555.

Also, I think someone complained briefly about the JVC SS adapter running on batteries. Well with a bit of surfing I stumbled upon this link:

http://www.instructables.com/id/EP344SFYNKEWZMJR0F/

Something to look into. Regardless, said stuffs should get here right before Halo 3 launches. Color me excited. :D

So, today I have ordered the Senn 555, the JVC SS Adapter, as well as the obligatory mini optical adapter. It should all be here by Friday. I'll post impressions if anyone is interested in the Senn 555.

Also, I think someone complained briefly about the JVC SS adapter running on batteries. Well with a bit of surfing I stumbled upon this link:

http://www.instructables.com/id/EP344SFYNKEWZMJR0F/

Something to look into. Regardless, said stuffs should get here right before Halo 3 launches. Color me excited. :D

I also just ordered the Senn 555. Gonna hold off on the 5.1 and see how well they do by themselves. also in prep for halo3.

Narrowing down the field. Can I get some opinions on the following.

http://www.audiocubes.com/category/Headphones_Audiophile,+Hifi/product/Audio-Technica_ATH-A500_Art_Headphones.html
These seem like a steal at this price. Much, much cheaper than anywhere else.

http://cgi.*********/RP-21-EQUATION-AUDIO-FLAT-RESPONSE-HEADPHONES_W0QQitemZ300152086243QQihZ020QQcategoryZ40137QQrd Z1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
Never heard these myself, but they were highly recommended on another site. Suppose to beat the Sen hd280's. I think they are for DJ's though.

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD555-HD-555-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B0001FTVDQ******pd_bbs_sr_1/105-2878880-0389236?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1189991427&sr=8-1
Seems like a lot of people are buying these.

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-515-Audiophile-500-Headphones/dp/B0001FTVDG******pd_bbs_5/105-2878880-0389236?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1189991427&sr=8-5
Step down from the 555.

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-212-HD-212-Headphones/dp/B000065BPA******pd_bbs_sr_1/105-2878880-0389236?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1189991362&sr=8-1
These supposedly have a lot of bass. I think I would like that for the particular use. Pretty cheap too.

I will use them for gaming and movies. I have the Grado SR125's for music. I will also be pairing the cans with the JVC DH box or I will get a reciever that has DH already. I would love to have a set with a mic but it seems that it isn't possible to do this and still get any kind of quality at this price point.

Any experience with these? Other ideas or advice?

like this one too??

think about that one for a while....... and you're welcome.:eek:


Pwnt.

Now I am wondering if the AT A500 art headphones are last years model or something.

AT's official site has this headphone listed which is different. It has the model number ATH-AD500.
http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/d2dafc5d2d7d1498/index.html

They can be found here for a pretty good price.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AudioTechnica-ATHAD500-Import-Series-OpenAir-Dynamic-Headphone?sku=244516

Anyone know what the difference is?

Edit: I just found the first set of headphones that I listed on that same site (musicians friend). Here is the link.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AudioTechnica-ATHA500-Headphones?sku=244509

So they are definitely different but may not be replacements since the price is so much different. It is just strange that I cannot find the model on the AT site anywhere. They look like even more of a steal now from Auidiocubes. Anyone know anything about these?

Edit again: It looks like the A500's are just a step down from the closed A700's that are found on AT's site here.
http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/c946e97b349766d2/index.html
They must have been discontinued unless anyone knows different.

Pwnt.

Troll often?

Narrowing down the field. Can I get some opinions on the following.

http://www.audiocubes.com/category/Headphones_Audiophile,+Hifi/product/Audio-Technica_ATH-A500_Art_Headphones.html
These seem like a steal at this price. Much, much cheaper than anywhere else.

http://cgi.*********/RP-21-EQUATION-AUDIO-FLAT-RESPONSE-HEADPHONES_W0QQitemZ300152086243QQihZ020QQcategoryZ40137QQrd Z1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
Never heard these myself, but they were highly recommended on another site. Suppose to beat the Sen hd280's. I think they are for DJ's though.

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD555-HD-555-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B0001FTVDQ******pd_bbs_sr_1/105-2878880-0389236?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1189991427&sr=8-1
Seems like a lot of people are buying these.

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-515-Audiophile-500-Headphones/dp/B0001FTVDG******pd_bbs_5/105-2878880-0389236?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1189991427&sr=8-5
Step down from the 555.

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-212-HD-212-Headphones/dp/B000065BPA******pd_bbs_sr_1/105-2878880-0389236?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1189991362&sr=8-1
These supposedly have a lot of bass. I think I would like that for the particular use. Pretty cheap too.

I will use them for gaming and movies. I have the Grado SR125's for music. I will also be pairing the cans with the JVC DH box or I will get a reciever that has DH already. I would love to have a set with a mic but it seems that it isn't possible to do this and still get any kind of quality at this price point.

Any experience with these? Other ideas or advice?

Go with Audiocubes.com. They offer great service. I bought from them before. The 500 Art (one in the link) is better then the 500 air for gaming. I have the Sen 212 pro.Nice cans, but soundstage is very narrow. You can get a zallman clip on mic..

i'm a headphone audiophile and i use beyerdynamic dt880 with games; they're great; of course higher end senn offerings are also quite good along with others

Thanks KBI,

That is what I thought, but it is good to hear it confirmed.

Does anyone know where the cheapest JVC SU DH1 can be found?

like this one too??

think about that one for a while....... and you're welcome.:eek:

I'm not quite sure what your point is. Please elaborate. The key posts in this thread have been nothing but very helpful to me and several others who expressed their gratitude. I see no need for anyone to belittle that.

Get your 595s yet?

The E Bay seller should ship it today (was on vacation till Sept. 16)... I'll report my impressions later this week.

I'm not quite sure what your point is. Please elaborate. The key posts in this thread have been nothing but very helpful to me and several others who expressed their gratitude. I see no need for anyone to belittle that.
Don't even give these morons the satisfaction of a reply. If they keep it up, we'll report them and they will get banned. Simply as that.

I'm not quite sure what your point is. Please elaborate. The key posts in this thread have been nothing but very helpful to me and several others who expressed their gratitude. I see no need for anyone to belittle that.

For help read post #135. If further help is needed, please PM me.

Disclaimer: No key posts have been belittled in this writing.

Don't even give these morons the satisfaction of a reply. If they keep it up, we'll report them and they will get banned. Simply as that.

Hence the request for a PM. Time to end the Flame............ pot meet kettle (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11644493#post11644493).....

back onto topic..... anyone have experience with the zalman mic for xbox live chat? It looks kind of flimsy. The ones I have seen, clip onto a wire. Looks like it would be annoying.

Anyone know of a different type of mic? Otherwise I think I'll have to use the ol xbox live headset, with muted volume, over the new cans.

I just got the Sennheiser 595's and I want to say they sound awesome. I wanted a decent pair of headphones that I can use late at night to keep the house quiet while I'm on my Xbox 360. After some thought - and much reading I opted to go with the higher quality stereo headphones over a potentially weak sounding 5.1 headset. Admittedly I'm not an audiophile (I'll buy something without even listening to it based on other's reviews) but these do sound really great. I listen to a fair amount of music so I didn't want to sacrifice music for gaming.

I listened to several cd's this weekend and heard detail I've never heard through my HSU ventriloquists. I have an Onkyo TX-SR601 receiver driving them currently. So I do recommend them as well and I appreciate all of the posts helping me with my decision. It seems like anytime these days when you make a statement there is someone waiting to flame you. But I am glad we have a forum like this for the open exchange of opinion.

I also just got the Zalman Microphone and did the mod to the controller so I can use it instead of the cheap Live headset. The only thing I've done so far is to make a couple of audio messages to test it - mainly to check my soldering skills. ;) It seems to work fine but I had to hold the mic right up to my mouth for a decent volume. That said, the audio was very clear. As yet I haven't really had any online time to check out how the mic sounds to others. So I am curious too if anyone has had any experience with the Zalman - especially using it online.

Also I'm considering getting the JVC surround sound adapter but I really don't want to sacrifice audio quality for surround sound. I guess that's something you have to hear for yourself though. Can those with the JVC adapter chime in to say if they are happy with their decision to buy it?

Thanks

So, today I have ordered the Senn 555, the JVC SS Adapter, as well as the obligatory mini optical adapter. It should all be here by Friday. I'll post impressions if anyone is interested in the Senn 555.

Yes, please post your impressions on the 555 and the JVC adapter. Once my 595 will be in -and I had some time to play with them- I'll make the decision on the 5.1 adapter. As I also have a HK AVR 635 with Dolby headphone, it would be nice to post a comparison for this board.

I just ordered the JVC SU dh1 along with the AT 500's and I will post impressions when I can.

My question is what kind of cable I need for this thing. It has an optical digital mini jack in. The manual on the official site says that the needed cable is a digital mini plug cord and is not supplied.

Here is the official site.
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027291&pathId=135&page=1

Here is the manual.
http://resources.jvc.com/Resources/00/00/91/LNT0055-001A.pdf

I want to use the optical toslink out from my AVR to go the the JVC so I need some kind of toslink to digital mini plug adaptor.

I found this on monoprice.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022902&p_id=2833&seq=1&format=1#largeimage
Does this look right?

Is this the same thing?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&cs_id=1042301&p_id=2671&seq=1&format=1#largeimage

My question is what kind of cable I need for this thing.

I want to use the optical toslink out from my AVR to go the the JVC so I need some kind of toslink to digital mini plug adaptor.

I found this on monoprice.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022902&p_id=2833&seq=1&format=1#largeimage
Does this look right?

Yes, that looks like the right cable. In the past I got optical cables from Home Depot that came included with different mini adapters. Perhaps they are still available. I remember paying ~$15 per cable.

By the way, if you buy the JVC adapter, you know you don't have to use your receiver for the optical out, right? You can straight run the optical out on the XBOX 360 to the JVC adapter. Only if you want to switch sound between receiver/speakers and the headphones you run: XBOX 360 -> optical -> receiver -> optical -> JVC 5.1 -> headphones
And if your receiver does Dolby Headphone you don't need the JVC adapter. Just wanted to make sure you are aware of that...

I want to be able to switch btwn 360, PS3, and XA1. Hopefully, going through the receiver will let me do that. Is that right?

Yeah, I really wanted to just buy an AVR that had DH in it, but I don't think my better half is going to go for it, so I just bought this a few minutes ago.

Thanks for the info.

One more Q. It looks like the US version does not have an AC adaptor port. Someone else had already linked to this solution.
http://www.instructables.com/id/EP344SFYNKEWZMJR0F/

Any other ideas?
I am assuming that the version I bought from AudioCubes is in fact the US version.

I am curious has anyone tried the ac workaround for the jvc? I am also curious how it sounds? I bought a 20$ headphone amp online but would upgrade if the jvc has ac and works great.

I want to be able to switch btwn 360, PS3, and XA1. Hopefully, going through the receiver will let me do that. Is that right?

Yes, that is right.

One more Q. It looks like the US version does not have an AC adaptor port. Someone else had already linked to this solution. http://www.instructables.com/id/EP344SFYNKEWZMJR0F/

Any other ideas?

Not really. I had planned on using rechargeable batteries...

I just got the Sennheiser 595's and I want to say they sound awesome. I wanted a decent pair of headphones that I can use late at night to keep the house quiet while I'm on my Xbox 360. After some thought - and much reading I opted to go with the higher quality stereo headphones over a potentially weak sounding 5.1 headset. Admittedly I'm not an audiophile (I'll buy something without even listening to it based on other's reviews) but these do sound really great. I listen to a fair amount of music so I didn't want to sacrifice music for gaming.

I listened to several cd's this weekend and heard detail I've never heard through my HSU ventriloquists. I have an Onkyo TX-SR601 receiver driving them currently. So I do recommend them as well and I appreciate all of the posts helping me with my decision. It seems like anytime these days when you make a statement there is someone waiting to flame you. But I am glad we have a forum like this for the open exchange of opinion.

I also just got the Zalman Microphone and did the mod to the controller so I can use it instead of the cheap Live headset. The only thing I've done so far is to make a couple of audio messages to test it - mainly to check my soldering skills. ;) It seems to work fine but I had to hold the mic right up to my mouth for a decent volume. That said, the audio was very clear. As yet I haven't really had any online time to check out how the mic sounds to others. So I am curious too if anyone has had any experience with the Zalman - especially using it online.

Also I'm considering getting the JVC surround sound adapter but I really don't want to sacrifice audio quality for surround sound. I guess that's something you have to hear for yourself though. Can those with the JVC adapter chime in to say if they are happy with their decision to buy it?

Thanks

No sacrifice in SQ.. That only implies to the 5.1 head sets that use 8 drivers.. Thats why I recommend getting a good stereo headphone & a 5.1 adaptor to get the best of both worlds without compromise.

I just ordered the JVC SU dh1 along with the AT 500's and I will post impressions when I can.

My question is what kind of cable I need for this thing. It has an optical digital mini jack in. The manual on the official site says that the needed cable is a digital mini plug cord and is not supplied.

Here is the official site.
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027291&pathId=135&page=1

Here is the manual.
http://resources.jvc.com/Resources/00/00/91/LNT0055-001A.pdf

I want to use the optical toslink out from my AVR to go the the JVC so I need some kind of toslink to digital mini plug adaptor.

I found this on monoprice.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022902&p_id=2833&seq=1&format=1#largeimage
Does this look right?

Is this the same thing?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&cs_id=1042301&p_id=2671&seq=1&format=1#largeimage
Yes. Those are it.
I have extra mini adaptors if you want one.. You just need one.

been using these for almost 7 years... i love them.

Panasonic RP-HT1000

The HT 1000s are open-air headphones. Open-air design means that the speakers are not set in a completely solid enclosure. The backs are open, hence the name. This means that a decent amount of sound seeps out toward other people, making them less than ideal in close quarters. The pair uses large-diameter, 40mm, driver units. Panasonic claims a frequency response from 7Hz up to 28kHz. There is no way in hell these things can hit 7Hz, but who cares.

Sound: At home I use a pair of Beyers that I've had for about four years. They are fantastic headphones, but they cost about $350.00. I could not believe how close the sound quality of the HT1000s was to my "reference" cans. The Panasonics easily had the flattest sound in terms of coloration. The sound was full, open, accurate, and dynamic. The low end was very impressive, present but not as exaggerated as many headphones make it. The detail was much better than I expected. Listening to the Silver Jews' American Water I actually heard undercurrents that I had never detected, even at home. There is a penny whistle or some such instrument present in the last verse that I had simply never heard. The only sonic weakness - and this is serious nitpicking - is a slight softness in the upper mids. The highs are great, but there is a bit of a gap between them and the mids.

These headphones sound fantastic in every respect. They are capable of reproducing anything from Ella Fitzgerald to The Matrix.

Comfort: As if sounding great weren't enough, the HT1000s were also the most comfy of the bunch. They are light yet fit very securely. The earcups are perfectly sized, even for my big-ass ears. The self-adjusting, two part headband works very well. I could wear these things all day long and be neither fatigued nor hot in the ears.

Features: Nothing special here, but that's no big deal.

Build Quality: These cans look a tad goofy, but they grow on you very quickly. And they might not look it at first glance, but they are very well made. The joints and wiring are all assembled very well and, thank god, Panasonic saw fit to put a fairly heavy gauge wire on the HT1000s. Great stuff.



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Strengths:
everything, bass, clarity,

Weaknesses:
none

I am curious has anyone tried the ac workaround for the jvc? I am also curious how it sounds? I bought a 20$ headphone amp online but would upgrade if the jvc has ac and works great.

You can always buy the Japanse version with the adaptor & get a voltage converter.

been using these for almost 7 years... i love them.

Panasonic RP-HT1000

The HT 1000s are open-air headphones. Open-air design means that the speakers are not set in a completely solid enclosure. The backs are open, hence the name. This means that a decent amount of sound seeps out toward other people, making them less than ideal in close quarters. The pair uses large-diameter, 40mm, driver units. Panasonic claims a frequency response from 7Hz up to 28kHz. There is no way in hell these things can hit 7Hz, but who cares.

Sound: At home I use a pair of Beyers that I've had for about four years. They are fantastic headphones, but they cost about $350.00. I could not believe how close the sound quality of the HT1000s was to my "reference" cans. The Panasonics easily had the flattest sound in terms of coloration. The sound was full, open, accurate, and dynamic. The low end was very impressive, present but not as exaggerated as many headphones make it. The detail was much better than I expected. Listening to the Silver Jews' American Water I actually heard undercurrents that I had never detected, even at home. There is a penny whistle or some such instrument present in the last verse that I had simply never heard. The only sonic weakness - and this is serious nitpicking - is a slight softness in the upper mids. The highs are great, but there is a bit of a gap between them and the mids.

These headphones sound fantastic in every respect. They are capable of reproducing anything from Ella Fitzgerald to The Matrix.

Comfort: As if sounding great weren't enough, the HT1000s were also the most comfy of the bunch. They are light yet fit very securely. The earcups are perfectly sized, even for my big-ass ears. The self-adjusting, two part headband works very well. I could wear these things all day long and be neither fatigued nor hot in the ears.

Features: Nothing special here, but that's no big deal.

Build Quality: These cans look a tad goofy, but they grow on you very quickly. And they might not look it at first glance, but they are very well made. The joints and wiring are all assembled very well and, thank god, Panasonic saw fit to put a fairly heavy gauge wire on the HT1000s. Great stuff.



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Strengths:
everything, bass, clarity,

Weaknesses:
none
DT 880's?:D

Hence the request for a PM. Time to end the Flame............ pot meet kettle (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11644493#post11644493).....

back onto topic..... anyone have experience with the zalman mic for xbox live chat? It looks kind of flimsy. The ones I have seen, clip onto a wire. Looks like it would be annoying.

Anyone know of a different type of mic? Otherwise I think I'll have to use the ol xbox live headset, with muted volume, over the new cans.

I believe creative sells some as well..

DT 880's?:D

yes, the reviewer was referring to those.... the panny's reviewed had an msrp of 39.99, so you can see where the value is, especially with his impression in comparison to the DT 880's, costing nearly 10 times the amount.

i dont think you can find the HT1000's any more, but i wish i could get a backup set. in COD4 my kill counts almost double with my cans on vs low volume stereo play.

yes, the reviewer was referring to those.... the panny's reviewed had an msrp of 39.99, so you can see where the value is, especially with his impression in comparison to the DT 880's, costing nearly 10 times the amount.

i dont think you can find the HT1000's any more, but i wish i could get a backup set. in COD4 my kill counts almost double with my cans on vs low volume stereo play.

Weaknesses:
None??
All headphones have a weakness, even the 'king' R10...

I also just got the Zalman Microphone and did the mod to the controller so I can use it instead of the cheap Live headset. The only thing I've done so far is to make a couple of audio messages to test it - mainly to check my soldering skills. ;) It seems to work fine but I had to hold the mic right up to my mouth for a decent volume. That said, the audio was very clear. As yet I haven't really had any online time to check out how the mic sounds to others. So I am curious too if anyone has had any experience with the Zalman - especially using it online.


How did you determine the M- wire from the M+ with that mic? Im getting the same one (planning the same mod).

yes, the reviewer was referring to those.... the panny's reviewed had an msrp of 39.99, so you can see where the value is, especially with his impression in comparison to the DT 880's, costing nearly 10 times the amount.

i dont think you can find the HT1000's any more, but i wish i could get a backup set. in COD4 my kill counts almost double with my cans on vs low volume stereo play.
Here you go..

http://www.partstore.com/sl/2/1193882-panasonic-rpht1000-headphone-rpht1000.html

Weaknesses:
None??
All headphones have a weakness, even the 'king' R10...

well the review was part of a "best cans for under $100" so putting it in perspective and in the price range, i guess he saw no major weaknesses that werent already expected of $50 headphones.

Here you go..

http://www.partstore.com/sl/2/1193882-panasonic-rpht1000-headphone-rpht1000.html

thank you so much!

Specifically for Halo 3 sessions late at night, I'm thinking about getting some 5.1 headphones. Like alot of people, I'm stuck between the Turtle Beach Headphones, the Triton Headphones or the Razer headphones. All of them have nearly identical specs, and I have no way of testing them before I buy. I've already got a pair of closed Beyer headphones for stereo, but I'm specifically looking for a pair that can do the 5.1 (without having to simulate).

Since this is just for multiplayer, and the sound doesn't need to be accurate, or with a flat response (or any of the rest of the audiophile catch phrases) etc; Which headphones would you guys suggest with the only criteria being how well it does the 5.1 directionality (how well it gives you that surround experience). Needs to be just the headphones, not a 5.1 adapter, needs an XBL mic, and preferably under 200 bucks-ish. Thanks

Specifically for Halo 3 sessions late at night, I'm thinking about getting some 5.1 headphones. Like alot of people, I'm stuck between the Turtle Beach Headphones, the Triton Headphones or the Razer headphones. All of them have nearly identical specs, and I have no way of testing them before I buy. I've already got a pair of closed Beyer headphones for stereo, but I'm specifically looking for a pair that can do the 5.1 (without having to simulate).

Since this is just for multiplayer, and the sound doesn't need to be accurate, or with a flat response (or any of the rest of the audiophile catch phrases) etc; Which headphones would you guys suggest with the only criteria being how well it does the 5.1 directionality (how well it gives you that surround experience). Needs to be just the headphones, not a 5.1 adapter, needs an XBL mic, and preferably under 200 bucks-ish. Thanks

Barracuda with the AC-1 SC for the win..

well the review was part of a "best cans for under $100" so putting it in perspective and in the price range, i guess he saw no major weaknesses that werent already expected of $50 headphones.



thank you so much!

True. I have a 80.00 headphone & 550.00 headphone.. No way is the 550.00 headphone 6X's better then my 80.00 headphone... But its better enough, & different enough to justify the extra cash..

My Beyers were 200 bucks. That's the most I've ever, or will ever, spend on a pair of headphones. It's hard to get an honest opinion of gaming headphones without an audiophile interjecting "No! Those are crap! The bass response is over emphasized and the highs aren't crisp enough!!!!"

The razers look the nicest, and they are the easiest to get (Bestbuy has them, Circuit City has them etc) but all the reviews are nearly identical (which makes them altogether untrustworthy). I plan to play the Halo 3 campaign during the day when everyone else is gone, so that I can use my surround speakers (without hell breaking loose), but for late night multiplayer, it would be nice to have that extra little bit of advantage that the 5.1 brings, without waking the neighbors XD

My Beyers were 200 bucks. That's the most I've ever, or will ever, spend on a pair of headphones. It's hard to get an honest opinion of gaming headphones without an audiophile interjecting "No! Those are crap! The bass response is over emphasized and the highs aren't crisp enough!!!!"

The razers look the nicest, and they are the easiest to get (Bestbuy has them, Circuit City has them etc) but all the reviews are nearly identical (which makes them altogether untrustworthy). I plan to play the Halo 3 campaign during the day when everyone else is gone, so that I can use my surround speakers (without hell breaking loose), but for late night multiplayer, it would be nice to have that extra little bit of advantage that the 5.1 brings, without waking the neighbors XD

I wouldn't consider myself a audiophile. An audiophile is someone who gets rid of his 1,400 headphones cause the mids are a bit recessed.. I do like good sounding audio, & will keep spending until I hit my personal Nirvana. I'm not in the 5.1 headphones sound like crap category. I used my friends Zalmans & they were very fun & the sound wasn't bad at all. If you aren't planning on getting the AC-1 with the Barracuda I'd go with the Trittons.. The Barracudes/Turtle headphones get mixed reviews, but the Trittons are pretty consistent.

Oh, I wasn't talking about anyone in particular. I just mean, in general, whenever the topic of 5.1 headphones comes up, some Audiophile feels the need to mention that there are 5(6?) small drivers in each earcup, and that they couldn't possibly sound as good as a pair Sennheisers (or AKG, Beyer, Grado etc). These people (no offense to them) completely miss the point of having surround sound headphones (Immediately knowing where enemies are coming/shooting from for instance). It's not so much about audio quality, as it is about accurate placement of sound. When something is mastered in 5.1 surround (or in the case of games, supports and was made for 5.1) then I'm going to take full advantage of it. When I want to listen to an orchestral score or some CD's, then I'll get out the "Audiophile" headphones.

So far it seems to be 1 vote for the Barracuda's, and one for the Triton's. I'll probably decide one way or the other tomorrow, since the game comes out in a week and I don't feel like paying for overnight shipping =P

Oh, I wasn't talking about anyone in particular. I just mean, in general, whenever the topic of 5.1 headphones comes up, some Audiophile feels the need to mention that there are 5(6?) small drivers in each earcup, and that they couldn't possibly sound as good as a pair Sennheisers (or AKG, Beyer, Grado etc). These people (no offense to them) completely miss the point of having surround sound headphones (Immediately knowing where enemies are coming/shooting from for instance). It's not so much about audio quality, as it is about accurate placement of sound. When something is mastered in 5.1 surround (or in the case of games, supports and was made for 5.1) then I'm going to take full advantage of it. When I want to listen to an orchestral score or some CD's, then I'll get out the "Audiophile" headphones.

So far it seems to be 1 vote for the Barracuda's, and one for the Triton's. I'll probably decide one way or the other tomorrow, since the game comes out in a week and I don't feel like paying for overnight shipping =P


Actually I have no problems with accurate placement of
sound, imaging, micro detail, huge sound stage, with
my stereo headphones.. Do they give me a out of head
experience no, thats why I advocate pairing a great
stereo headphone with a 5.1 adaptor, so you get the
5.1 out of head experience without compromise to SQ..
SQ does come into play.. The better clarity,
seperation, higher resolution.. Helps along with the
5.1 SS. Also enhances your gaming experience, & is
more immersive.. & 5.1 simulation is actually a better
way to go then headphones with the 6-8 drivers. I know
makers of 5.1 headsets like to toss around fake SS &
true SS.. But every person I chatted too via online,
or reading post, all prefered the pioneer wireless 5.1
headphones over the 5.1 headphones with multiple
drivers. Even OXM said the pioneer did a better job
with the SS effects & was more popular around the
office then the Tritton, which scored a 8.. Not to
sound too biased, The author did say they sounded
damn good:p (Tritton)

I do agree that all games are optimized for 5.1 sound
so it would be ideal to get a 5.1 headset or 5.1
adaptor. Both require optical support by the way. I
know you will love your 5.1 headset, which ever one
you choose.. They are very fun & present a nice 3d
effect, pushing the sound out of the head & to the
front.. Do give impressions.

I like letting people know there are better
alternatives out there, & to debunk the myth that 1, DD 5.1
DSP is a down grade from 5.1 head sets with multiple
drivers, & 2, A quality stereo headphone is great for
gaming & will do things better then 5.1 headphones in
their price range.

A lot of people have bought the JVC 5.1 adaptor along
with their quality headphones. I'm sure they will
report back, & maybe do a comparison between the two..:cool:

Does anyone know where the cheapest JVC SU DH1 can be found?

I find myself constantly checking out this damn adapter so in anticipation of my impulsivity I started searching the web as well. Best price I found so far remains buy-com: $92.99 with free shipping and $10 discount if you are new to Goole checkout (which you will be when using a different email address every time you buy -- so I hear...).

By the way, is the JVC adapter the only one that provides Dolby Headphone 5.1 using a portable adapter? I only found one other reference (here (http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=233655)) that mentions a Philips unit... Yet, I did not find any further details on it.

I ordered my JVC from audiocubes just to keep things simple since that is where i got my A500's from. Price was comparable to other places after shipping although not the absolute cheapest.

I never found another 5.1 portable adaptor.

Maybe the unit will arrive by the weekend and I can post my impressions.

How did you determine the M- wire from the M+ with that mic? Im getting the same one (planning the same mod).

When you cut the connector off and strip the jacket back there will be a center conductor with a clear jacket and the copper braiding will be around it. I soldered the clear (center conductor) to the M+ and the copper braiding I twisted together and soldered to M-. I tied a knot on the inside and outside of the case for strain relief. I didn't take any pics but basically followed this article:
http://www.keygoods.com/headset.html

if someone were to get the barracuda's from razer, how are you going to get surround out of the xbox? these headphones aren't toslink capable from what i can see..

When you cut the connector off and strip the jacket back there will be a center conductor with a clear jacket and the copper braiding will be around it. I soldered the clear (center conductor) to the M+ and the copper braiding I twisted together and soldered to M-. I tied a knot on the inside and outside of the case for strain relief. I didn't take any pics but basically followed this article:
http://www.keygoods.com/headset.html

Thanks for the info. I am actually using the same page as well, but it really helps to know whats up with this specific mic. I can cut down on trial and error and get straight to business. I get my mic tomorrow so hopefully I can do the mod and post some pics by midnight (est) tomorrow. I also receive my Senn 555 tomorrow but I wait a little do my impression on those.

been using these for almost 7 years... i love them.

Panasonic RP-HT1000

The HT 1000s are open-air headphones. Open-air design means that the speakers are not set in a completely solid enclosure. The backs are open, hence the name. This means that a decent amount of sound seeps out toward other people, making them less than ideal in close quarters. The pair uses large-diameter, 40mm, driver units. Panasonic claims a frequency response from 7Hz up to 28kHz. There is no way in hell these things can hit 7Hz, but who cares.

Sound: At home I use a pair of Beyers that I've had for about four years. They are fantastic headphones, but they cost about $350.00. I could not believe how close the sound quality of the HT1000s was to my "reference" cans. The Panasonics easily had the flattest sound in terms of coloration. The sound was full, open, accurate, and dynamic. The low end was very impressive, present but not as exaggerated as many headphones make it. The detail was much better than I expected. Listening to the Silver Jews' American Water I actually heard undercurrents that I had never detected, even at home. There is a penny whistle or some such instrument present in the last verse that I had simply never heard. The only sonic weakness - and this is serious nitpicking - is a slight softness in the upper mids. The highs are great, but there is a bit of a gap between them and the mids.

These headphones sound fantastic in every respect. They are capable of reproducing anything from Ella Fitzgerald to The Matrix.

Comfort: As if sounding great weren't enough, the HT1000s were also the most comfy of the bunch. They are light yet fit very securely. The earcups are perfectly sized, even for my big-ass ears. The self-adjusting, two part headband works very well. I could wear these things all day long and be neither fatigued nor hot in the ears.

Features: Nothing special here, but that's no big deal.

Build Quality: These cans look a tad goofy, but they grow on you very quickly. And they might not look it at first glance, but they are very well made. The joints and wiring are all assembled very well and, thank god, Panasonic saw fit to put a fairly heavy gauge wire on the HT1000s. Great stuff.



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Strengths:
everything, bass, clarity,

Weaknesses:
none


I did a search on the headphones and found that the review is from ign in 2001.

I did a search on the headphones and found that the review is from ign in 2001.

and? like i said, i've been using them for almost 7 years, and they've been great to me.

and? like i said, i've been using them for almost 7 years, and they've been great to me.

I know i was just showing everyone where the review was coming from. I seriously want a pair of headphones before halo and i'll have my copy on friday which is really making me search. I think i'll go down to jnr tomorrow and try a few pair out since they have some on display to try.

I find myself constantly checking out this damn adapter so in anticipation of my impulsivity I started searching the web as well. Best price I found so far remains buy-com: $92.99 with free shipping and $10 discount if you are new to Goole checkout (which you will be when using a different email address every time you buy -- so I hear...).

By the way, is the JVC adapter the only one that provides Dolby Headphone 5.1 using a portable adapter? I only found one other reference (here (http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=233655)) that mentions a Philips unit... Yet, I did not find any further details on it.
No there are more.. You can do a google. I know Amazon has a refurbed JVC for 70.00 or so.. Or they did..

Digital trends JVC review.. For full review click here.... http://reviews.digitaltrends.com/review3543_main17723.html

"I moved on to a ThX-based Dolby Surround Test AAC file. It’s supposed to sound like a helicopter flying from behind you, to around you, to in front of you. With the adaptor off, it sounded like a bunch of helicopter noise, but when you turn on the adaptor and use the “Movie” Pro Logic II setting, it works like a charm. You can hear a helicopter in the distance behind you fly in and circle around you as if you’re about to be attacked. I’m very surprised it sounds so real from a cheap pair of headphones and a little adaptor from JVC."



"Lastly, I put on a DVD of the original Matrix film. What better way to test out 5.1 Surround Sound then with a bunch of action and gunfighting? JVC has done it. This little device pumped out insanely realistic, high-quality Surround Sound at me. The scene where Neo and Trinity fight the officers in the lobby is spectacular and sounds like people are shooting behind you, in front of you, and in every single direction. Sounds are what you’d expect from Dolby and you almost can’t tell you’re using regular 2-channel headphones."



"Although the market for Dolby 5.1 Sound is huge, not many companies out there have successfully emulated it on non-5.1 devices such as headphones. JVC is able to do it efficiently and correctly with the SU-DH1 box. The device is portable, powerful, and produces ultra-rich sounds that bleed quality."

and? like i said, i've been using them for almost 7 years, and they've been great to me.

Yeah.. Age has nothing to do with the quality of a headphone if they are good to begin with.. I have a 30 yr old headphone that sounds great.. & most drivers will last you a life time..

Anyone know anything about these? Sony MDRDS1000

Anyone know anything about these? Sony MDRDS1000

I know that Sony doesn't use the Dolby headphone DSP technology for SS.. Sony has their own DSP for SS. From what I hear it's not as good, but still effective.. Seems like a good option for 85.00..

Scratch that. I found a review.. http://www.onheadphones.com/product-reviews/surround-sound-headphones/sony-digital-surround-sound-headphone-system-mdr-ds1000.html

Review said the SS decoder on the Sony made very little difference.. & a amazon reviewer gave them 1 star..

If anyone has money to burn these are hi end 5.1 headphones..:eek:

http://www.audiocubes.com/category/Headphones_Wireless,+Surround.html

For those considering making a move to the JVC surround sound adaptor, or another Dolby Headphone capable receiver, the Dolby website has some demos of the Dolby Headphone technology.
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/technology/headphone.html
The links to the demos are under "Hear Dolby Headphone In Action"

Does the JVC adapter only run off batteries? Thanks

Same question I'm waiting on confirmation from HaD3K when he receives his unit. I dl'd a manual which I mentions an adapter (SU-DH1-J). It was from the Canadian web site and the manual is in english and french so I'm hoping...

How about a 5.1 set of headphones that uses RF and not IR for those of us whose equipment is located outside of the room. I would have ponied up the cash for the pioneers if they were RF. If I have to run an optical wire into my room for the IR receiver I would rather save the money and just run an extender wire for my headphones.

*Edit*
O.k. I went back and looked at the manual and now I can't find any mention of the adapter. I know someone mentioned earlier that the Japanese version had one.

For those considering making a move to the JVC surround sound adaptor, or another Dolby Headphone capable receiver, the Dolby website has some demos of the Dolby Headphone technology.
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/technology/headphone.html
The links to the demos are under "Hear Dolby Headphone In Action"

But not as impressive.. Sounds better while listening with the actual gear. Least that was my experience.

Same question I'm waiting on confirmation from HaD3K when he receives his unit. I dl'd a manual which I mentions an adapter (SU-DH1-J). It was from the Canadian web site and the manual is in english and french so I'm hoping...

How about a 5.1 set of headphones that uses RF and not IR for those of us whose equipment is located outside of the room. I would have ponied up the cash for the pioneers if they were RF. If I have to run an optical wire into my room for the IR receiver I would rather save the money and just run an extender wire for my headphones.

*Edit*
O.k. I went back and looked at the manual and now I can't find any mention of the adapter. I know someone mentioned earlier that the Japanese version had one.

Yes. I believe only the Japanese version has one.. You could always get a voltage converter if you really need a adapter.

Does the JVC adapter only run off batteries? Thanks
J&R Electronics says right in their product description "uses 2 AA batteries, supports power from an AC adapter"

Of course, it could be a misprint or otherwise incorrect.

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4103785

I know that Sony doesn't use the Dolby headphone DSP technology for SS.. Sony has their own DSP for SS. From what I hear it's not as good, but still effective.. Seems like a good option for 85.00..

Sony have two versions of surround headphone. None of them uses Dolby Headphone technology. The cheaper version is no good. The expensive version (>$800) is better than Pioneer Dolby Headphone from a review I read.

How about a 5.1 set of headphones that uses RF and not IR for those of us whose equipment is located outside of the room. I would have ponied up the cash for the pioneers if they were RF. If I have to run an optical wire into my room for the IR receiver I would rather save the money and just run an extender wire for my headphones.


The problem with most RF based wireless headphone is that they are all pretty noisy from the RF interference. IR is better. Digital IR used by Pioneer headphone is even better. No noise what so ever.

Sony have two versions of surround headphone. None of them uses Dolby Headphone technology. The cheaper version is no good. The expensive version (>$800) is better than Pioneer Dolby Headphone from a review I read.

I heard it is very good too. Think it came out in 03.. Unless they upgraded it..

J&R Electronics says right in their product description "uses 2 AA batteries, supports power from an AC adapter"

Of course, it could be a misprint or otherwise incorrect.

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4103785
...however...
The user manual from the JVC America website does NOT mention any AC adaptor support. It only mentions batteries as the only available power supply. I'd guess J&R's description (from my previous post) is incorrect.
http://resources.jvc.com/Resources/00/00/91/LNT0055-001A.pdf

Specifically for Halo 3 sessions late at night, I'm thinking about getting some 5.1 headphones. Like alot of people, I'm stuck between the Turtle Beach Headphones, the Triton Headphones or the Razer headphones. All of them have nearly identical specs, and I have no way of testing them before I buy. I've already got a pair of closed Beyer headphones for stereo, but I'm specifically looking for a pair that can do the 5.1 (without having to simulate).

Trust me, the simulated 5.1 with Dolby Headphone technology is far better than so called true 5.1. I've tested many of them including Zalman's version. Non of them is anywhere near the effect of my Pioneer. To get true 5.1 with multiple drivers, rear channel drivers have to be behind your ears, not inside.

I heard it is very good too. Think it came out in 03.. Unless they upgraded it..

Recently Sony announced a new one which is only around $300. So I don't think it will be as good as the older version.

If my headphones weren't in a balanced configuration I'd just get the JVC adapter..

I'm considering the 595's & clip on mic for XBL... however I've got a fundamental question:

Assuming I don't route through a receiver, what is powering the audio? Even if I use the JVC adaptor, it doesn't have a volume control... so can the 360 alone drive the headphones or would I need an amp?

ummmmm I think the JVC had volume control...

Hi,

I ordered a 20$ headphone amp. It is small and ac. I also ordered a two rca to stereo 1/4" cord. When I get it, I will let you know how it sounds.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000SJHNB2/002-0965617-5826429


I'm considering the 595's & clip on mic for XBL... however I've got a fundamental question:

Assuming I don't route through a receiver, what is powering the audio? Even if I use the JVC adaptor, it doesn't have a volume control... so can the 360 alone drive the headphones or would I need an amp?

For those looking for an ac adapter for the JVC 5.1, I read on another forum -which I can't remember now, but think it was on headfi.com- that the Japanese ac adapter made "crackling noises" when used... Just a head's up...

Looking forward to hear fresh impressions on the JVC and Mindwarper's amp...

one cool amp option appears to be the diy "CMOY" design. a couple to choose from on ebay & headphone trade forums. most <$50

http://tangentsoft.net/audio/cmoy-tutorial/bitmaps/complete-outside.jpg

Just received my Senn 555s today. Wow. To be honest I've never experienced such clear sound through outer ear phones. Hooked them up to my Cowon D2 player, and I was in heaven. I also own VModa Vibes, IE phones which I normally use on my D2, but these new Senns will most likley take over whenever I'm listening in the house. My music sounds more like a live experience now, rather than one in my head. I can't wait to hook these bad boys up to my 360. I can't think of anything else to say atm so feel free to ask some questions. I will say that these are definitely worth every penny, and if your a gamer you'll probably find yourself spoiled silly.

I'll have impressions with the JVC adapter and the 360 probably late Friday. Those should be way more detailed and hopefully I can take some pics of the whole kit and caboodle. Till then......:cool:

EDIT: Mad props to electr0n for helping me finish the 360 headset swap!

I'm considering the 595's & clip on mic for XBL... however I've got a fundamental question:

Assuming I don't route through a receiver, what is powering the audio? Even if I use the JVC adaptor, it doesn't have a volume control... so can the 360 alone drive the headphones or would I need an amp?

The JVC has a volume control.

Trust me, the simulated 5.1 with Dolby Headphone technology is far better than so called true 5.1. I've tested many of them including Zalman's version. Non of them is anywhere near the effect of my Pioneer. To get true 5.1 with multiple drivers, rear channel drivers have to be behind your ears, not inside.

I know, but ppl are stuck on the simulation part, instead of the 'real' thing.. To be frank, theres no such thing as 5.1 headphones to begin with.. None come remotley close to a good 5.1 set up. But DD 5.1 headphone does a admirable job of giving the illusion of 5.1 sound with headphones.. & does sound great..

Had3k
"Just received my Senn 555s today. Wow. To be honest I've never experienced such clear sound through outer ear phones. Hooked them up to my Cowon D2 player, and I was in heaven. I also own VModa Vibes, IE phones which I normally use on my D2, but these new Senns will most likley take over whenever I'm listening in the house. My music sounds more like a live experience now, rather than one in my head. I can't wait to hook these bad boys up to my 360. I can't think of anything else to say atm so feel free to ask some questions. I will say that these are definitely worth every penny, and if your a gamer you'll probably find yourself spoiled silly."

I really hope the JVC coupled with the 555 astound you since I been advocating it so much on this forum. I just really believe in it.. & I hope all who bought the JVC & or headphones based on my recommendation really love them. & what you say is true. The music becomes real & the artist are now live.. With my set up it's like the artist is singing just to me.. Whispering in my ear, or I'm with them in the studio watching him/her record the music.. & you don't need to spend as much as I did to get there, which is scary..

KBI (or any other knowledgeable headphone guy),

I have (briefly) read that low impedance headphones, like the Senn's, do not benefit greatly from CMOY amps b/c of low amperage. And thus they would be better mated to something tapped into an outlet... perhaps something like the PAV2 (http://www.electric-avenues.com/amplifiers.html).

If I jump into this whole "head-fi" business... I'm want to do it right (within budget of course ;))




* Oh and thanks everyone for the correction about the JVC volume control. My bad.

* btw, its official. i ordered the 595 & JVC :D

Ok what cable do I need to plug the JVC adapter into my receiver? I want to enjoy 5.1 movie sound thru the headphones.

You will need a digital audio connection, either optical or coax, depending what's your receiver's digital audio output type.

Ok what cable do I need to plug the JVC adapter into my receiver? I want to enjoy 5.1 movie sound thru the headphones.

You need to get a mini adaptor for your optical cable.. Can be had for 2.00..

KBI (or any other knowledgeable headphone guy),

I have (briefly) read that low impedance headphones, like the Senn's, do not benefit greatly from CMOY amps b/c of low amperage. And thus they would be better mated to something tapped into an outlet... perhaps something like the PAV2 (http://www.electric-avenues.com/amplifiers.html).

If I jump into this whole "head-fi" business... I'm want to do it right (within budget of course ;))




* Oh and thanks everyone for the correction about the JVC volume control. My bad.

All headphones benefit from a good amp.. Basically low impedance cans like 16-32 are easier to drive, compared to 250-600 OHM cans, which take more juice to drive them to their peak listening levels.. You can use the Cmoy to bypass the JVCs internal amp.. The PAV2.. Which most likely is superior to the amp in the JVC..

I am starting get real interested in the JVC adapter but the lack of a dedicated power source is keeping my wallet in pocket. Please report back on battery life for those that have purchased. Thanks!

I am starting get real interested in the JVC adapter but the lack of a dedicated power source is keeping my wallet in pocket. Please report back on battery life for those that have purchased. Thanks!

I believe they last 10 hrs..

I am starting get real interested in the JVC adapter but the lack of a dedicated power source is keeping my wallet in pocket. Please report back on battery life for those that have purchased. Thanks!

http://www.instructables.com/id/Run-any-battery-powered-item-through-AC-power./

I am planning on preforming this , as soon as I receive my JVC adapter.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Run-any-battery-powered-item-through-AC-power./

I am planning on preforming this , as soon as I receive my JVC adapter.

If you bought it from audiocubes, wouldn't the JVC be 220 only & would need a voltage converter?

* btw, its official. i ordered the 595 & JVC :D

Let us know how it sounds with H3:D

I ended up going with the Tritton's and I'm pretty satisfied with them. I briefly thought about getting that JVC adaptor, but it can't be plugged into the wall? What a joke. I'm sure you can get nice soundstage from stereo headphones (with the adaptor) but that would have left me sans-microphone, which is half the experience on Xbox Live as far as I'm concerned. For under 100 (or around, depending on the kind of deal you get) I'd say the Trittons are your best bet. If you'll never be voice chatting on Xbox Live, and you already have a nice pair of studio headphones, then I guess I'd say "Go for the JVC adaptor!"

If that JVC adaptor ever appears with A/C power as an option (instead of batteries, gah) I'll be interested in picking it up/pairing it with my Beyer's. I can't believe that they'd neglect to include an A/C option =/

I received the Turtle Beach X3 and am happy with the purchase. Stereo only, but good quality and makes Bioshock that much scarier to play at night. Will be using with Halo 3 next week.

I'm sure you can get nice soundstage from stereo headphones (with the adaptor) but that would have left me sans-microphone, which is half the experience on Xbox Live as far as I'm concerned.

You are absolutely right about VoIP being 1/2 the fun. However I don't plan on sacrificing that feature. I may be naive... but I plan to:

1. use a clip on mic for transmitting my voice to others
2. use the option to broadcast other's voice over the main speakers

If I am correct in the availability of these 2 options, then VoIP is still possible. I sure hope it is at least...

I ended up going with the Tritton's and I'm pretty satisfied with them. I briefly thought about getting that JVC adaptor, but it can't be plugged into the wall? What a joke. I'm sure you can get nice soundstage from stereo headphones (with the adaptor) but that would have left me sans-microphone, which is half the experience on Xbox Live as far as I'm concerned. For under 100 (or around, depending on the kind of deal you get) I'd say the Trittons are your best bet. If you'll never be voice chatting on Xbox Live, and you already have a nice pair of studio headphones, then I guess I'd say "Go for the JVC adaptor!"

If that JVC adaptor ever appears with A/C power as an option (instead of batteries, gah) I'll be interested in picking it up/pairing it with my Beyer's. I can't believe that they'd neglect to include an A/C option =/

They were made for portable use thats the reason.. If you want a 5.1 headphones with 8 drivers for under a 100.00 the Trittons are your best bet.. Glad you like them..

KBI (or any other knowledgeable headphone guy),

I have (briefly) read that low impedance headphones, like the Senn's, do not benefit greatly from CMOY amps b/c of low amperage. And thus they would be better mated to something tapped into an outlet... perhaps something like the PAV2 (http://www.electric-avenues.com/amplifiers.html).

If I jump into this whole "head-fi" business... I'm want to do it right (within budget of course ;))




* Oh and thanks everyone for the correction about the JVC volume control. My bad.

On a side note, I owned the PAV2.. & the creator Gary Ali gives the best customer service one could hope for.. He replies to all emails very quickly, & is very polite & detailed in his responses. Very acomidating. (SP) He will increase or decrease the gain on request. He resides in Canada & will take 7-10 days before you get it in your hands. The amp drove my headphones better then my Yamaha receiver.

If you bought it from audiocubes, wouldn't the JVC be 220 only & would need a voltage converter?

Bought it from Amazon so I am not totally sure. I'm definitely looking for power settings and the like on the unit before I attempt the AC hookup. I will know tomorrow.

Bought it from Amazon so I am not totally sure. I'm definitely looking for power settings and the like on the unit before I attempt the AC hookup. I will know tomorrow.

if you bought from Amazon its the 120 V version..

Sry KBI I lied. I got the optical adapter from Amazon. Got the JVC adapter from Buy.com

http://www.buy.com/prod/jvc-su-dh1-surround-sound-headphone-adapter/q/loc/111/202735986.html#prodInfoSec

Whatever power input/etc , I will do my best to convert it to wall adapter. I will then share my findings.

Damn. Crutchfield charges 140.00 for them..

More detailed info, courtesy of crutchfield.com


Features

Overview: The SU-DH1 is a portable surround sound headphone adapter. It features Dolby headphone technology to provide 5.1ch surround sound through any set of headphones. It comes with an analog input cord that can be stored into the unit, and also has an optical digital mini jack. Ideal to use with laptop computer, portable DVD player, handheld video viewer, and portable game systems or other portable music/video product. Also it can be used to enjoy the in-flight movie with surround sound. Carrying pouch, airplane plug adapter, and two AA battery are all provided.

Virtual Surround Sound Modes: The SU-DH1 can reproduce the following formats:

* Dolby Digital: This is used to reproduce multi-channel soundtracks of the software encoded with Dolby Digital.
* Dolby Digital Pro Logic II: This is a newly developed multi-channel playback format to decode all 2 channel sources (stereo source and Dolby Surround encoded sources) into a 5.1 channel. There are two modes of Dolby Pro Logic II:
o Movie: suitable for reproduction of the software encoded with Dolby surround
o Music: suitable for reproduction of any 2 channel stereo music sources
* DTS Digital Surround: This is used to reproduce multi-channel soundtracks of the software encoded with DTS digital surround. DTS surround is another discrete multi-channel digital audio format available on CD and DVD software.
* MPEG-2 AAC: This is a surround format developed by MPEG and can reproduce the sound in 5.1 channel at the maximum.

Surround Functions: On the face of the SU-DH1, there are two buttons, one is labeled "Dolby Pro Logic II" and the other is "Dolby Headphone." These buttons allow you to choose the particular playback modes. You can choose from the following modes:

* Dolby Pro Logic II: Auto, Movie, Music, Off
* Dolby Headphone: DH1, DH2, DH3, Off

Line Attenuation Switch (LINE IN ATT): This switch allows you to adjust the input volume level of the component connected by line in cord. Set the switch to -8db in standard use. When the volume level of the component connected has a low signal set the switch to 0 dB. The switch is found on the right side of the adapter.

Inputs/Outputs

* Right side of the adapter
o Mini-jack female Digital input
o Mini-jack female Headphone output
* Bottom right side of the adapter
o Mini-jack male Line input on a 4.5" cable

Sry KBI I lied. I got the optical adapter from Amazon. Got the JVC adapter from Buy.com

http://www.buy.com/prod/jvc-su-dh1-surround-sound-headphone-adapter/q/loc/111/202735986.html#prodInfoSec

Whatever power input/etc , I will do my best to convert it to wall adapter. I will then share my findings.

God speed good sir.

I know it's a "Portable" device, but give me a break. My Ipod, PSP, Laptop, and my *List goes on for awhile* are all "Portable" devices, but they all include wall adaptors.

For when it does come out in A/C form (if I should say) can anyone speak to how the adaptor compares to something like Creative's EAX modes? (such as "Coliseum" "Sewer Pipe" and "Concert Hall") and Creative's DVD playback mode? I've been less than impressed with simulated surround before, but then again I've never tried Dolby's version of Simulated Surround.

Oh well. I've got my 5.1 headset, my Pioneer Plasma, and my Gamefuel (and Bawls for when I can no longer hold my Gamefuel). It's Halo 3 time baby:D

KBI,

So where would I buy the voltage converter for the jvc from audio cube? Do they or monoprice sell the adapter I would need if I was inputing a standard toshlink optical cable?

if you're talking about AC/DC voltage conversion... i'd just hack a spare brick (with the correct outputs) that you have lying around (i know i have a ton). but if you wanted to buy one, i'm pretty sure RadioShack offers them.

A.C.

Sorry I don't know what a brick is :( I was talking about the 220v Japanese conversion which I think is a different thing. But I would like to know more about what you are talking about with regards to using a brick (battery pack of some sort?) with the N.A. model.

By brick, he means the power brick that comes with most electronics these days (like the Xbox 360, a laptop, etc). I'm not an electrician, but I assume they change A/C to D/C?

I certainly don't have the knowledge to splice something like that together, but kudos to anybody that does. Shame on JVC for making anyone even consider it =P

I think what A.C. means is that instead of fiddling with 220/110 AC conversion which isn't going to be easy and safe, you try to find out what the DC input voltage of the JVC adapter is and find a 3rd party adapter that outputs same DC voltage and correct plug (Radio Shack is the place to look) that plugs directly into the JVC unit.

KBI,

So where would I buy the voltage converter for the jvc from audio cube? Do they or monoprice sell the adapter I would need if I was inputing a standard toshlink optical cable?

Ebay, My local Best Buy has some too.. & audiocubes I believe...

So, anyone get theirs yet?

God speed good sir.

I know it's a "Portable" device, but give me a break. My Ipod, PSP, Laptop, and my *List goes on for awhile* are all "Portable" devices, but they all include wall adaptors.

For when it does come out in A/C form (if I should say) can anyone speak to how the adaptor compares to something like Creative's EAX modes? (such as "Coliseum" "Sewer Pipe" and "Concert Hall") and Creative's DVD playback mode? I've been less than impressed with simulated surround before, but then again I've never tried Dolby's version of Simulated Surround.

Oh well. I've got my 5.1 headset, my Pioneer Plasma, and my Gamefuel (and Bawls for when I can no longer hold my Gamefuel). It's Halo 3 time baby:D

Dolby 5.1 is the best out.. I know the JVC is encoded with DD 5.1 & DTS, & requires a optical cable so it's true 5.1.. How is the SS with your Trittons?

I think what A.C. means is that instead of fiddling with 220/110 AC conversion which isn't going to be easy and safe, you try to find out what the DC input voltage of the JVC adapter is and find a 3rd party adapter that outputs same DC voltage and correct plug (Radio Shack is the place to look) that plugs directly into the JVC unit.


Exactly. The VAST majority of electronic devices use DC voltage. Batteries provide DC voltage. Most everything that gets plugged into a wall (AC voltage) gets converted to DC.

So in North America, 110 volt (AC) is converted to DC. In Japan 220 volt (AC) is converted to DC. The catch is that electronic devices do not use identical DC voltage (or amps). So 110/220 doesn't really matter. Only the DC voltage.

Check this image out. This is an example of a "brick"

http://homepage.mac.com/cramlet/.Pictures/extra/acadaptor.jpg

Input: 100-240V, 50/60Hz, 11W (notice the sine wave = AC volt)
Output: 4.2V, 1.5A (notice the horizontal/dashed line = DC volt)

This camera charger uses 4.2V DC... however other devices use 9V DC. Some use 12V DC. So its just a matter of figuring out what the JVC requires and finding a brick that falls into that range.

Exactly. The VAST majority of electronic devices use DC voltage. Batteries provide DC voltage. Most everything that gets plugged into a wall (AC voltage) gets converted to DC.

So in North America, 110 volt (AC) is converted to DC. In Japan 220 volt (AC) is converted to DC. The catch is that electronic devices do not use identical DC voltage (or amps). So 110/220 doesn't really matter. Only the DC voltage.

This camera charger uses 4.2V DC... however other devices use 9V DC. Some use 12V DC. So its just a matter of figuring out what the JVC requires and finding a brick that falls into that range.

Again all your questions and more can be answered by this link, which I've also posted previously. Read the comments.http://www.instructables.com/id/Run-any-battery-powered-item-through-AC-power./

I have the second Radioshack adapter it mentioned and I am currently performing this procedure. Scalpel! :eek:


EDIT: Oh yeah. The JVC adapter needs 3V DC. 2AA batteries = 1.5V x 2 = 3v

EDIT 2: Success! The mod as described works! I will have pics up for everyone later tonight, and hopefully more good things to say.

KBI -

The surround effect is great for the money I'd say. It doesn't come close to a real 5.1 setup, but I wasn't really expecting it to. It does it's job admirably, considering that the space between the "Front" and "Back" channels is about an inch.

I fired up some Call of Duty 4 Beta to test them, and I could tell where the helicopter was in relation to me, without taking my eyes off of the action to look at the radar. In the couple of hours I played, noone ever came up behind me (so I couldn't really see if I'd hear footsteps coming or not) but I could tell where bullets were being fired from, without seeing the muzzle flash (which I couldn't do with stereo headphones). Either Call of Duty 4 is 5.1 enabled and the surround effect is great, or the placebo effect is in full swing. Either way, for 100 bucks, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. To be fair though, these headphones (and I should say, probably all the 5.1 headphones under 200 bucks) aren't even nearly as proficient with music as my Beyerdynamic cans. So I wouldn't recommend these to anyone looking for an all in one gaming/music listening headset.

I'd say it's probably a toss between the Turtle Beach, Razor, Tritton and other (100-150 dollar) 5.1 headphones. With the Turtle Beach, I could have had wireless (but infrared wireless I believe. I didn't even think that would be a good idea as far as interference goes). With the Razor's I could have had a set of headphones that look good, and that I wouldn't be embarrassed wearing with people over =P. I ultimately went with the Trittons because I had heard somewhat bad things about the audio quality of the Microphone on the Razor's, and good things about the mic quality of the Trittons. So any set you guys decide to go with (as far as 5.1 goes) will probably be fine.

W00TER!!! I got Halo 3 tonight! My local chain store is apparently clueless, and there I was to take advantage of what is sure to be fixed buy the morning. So.....impressions will most definitely be delayed but you can all be happy I got Senn 555 + Jvc Adapter all set up just in time for my to be the luckiest bastard ever.

EDIT: Gamertag: HaD3k

For proofs.

W00TER!!! I got Halo 3 tonight! My local chain store is apparently clueless, and there I was to take advantage of what is sure to be fixed buy the morning. So.....impressions will most definitely be delayed but you can all be happy I got Senn 555 + Jvc Adapter all set up just in time for my to be the luckiest bastard ever.

EDIT: Gamertag: HaD3k

For proofs.

haha. nice work

KBI -

The surround effect is great for the money I'd say. It doesn't come close to a real 5.1 setup, but I wasn't really expecting it to. It does it's job admirably, considering that the space between the "Front" and "Back" channels is about an inch.

I fired up some Call of Duty 4 Beta to test them, and I could tell where the helicopter was in relation to me, without taking my eyes off of the action to look at the radar. In the couple of hours I played, noone ever came up behind me (so I couldn't really see if I'd hear footsteps coming or not) but I could tell where bullets were being fired from, without seeing the muzzle flash (which I couldn't do with stereo headphones). Either Call of Duty 4 is 5.1 enabled and the surround effect is great, or the placebo effect is in full swing. Either way, for 100 bucks, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. To be fair though, these headphones (and I should say, probably all the 5.1 headphones under 200 bucks) aren't even nearly as proficient with music as my Beyerdynamic cans. So I wouldn't recommend these to anyone looking for an all in one gaming/music listening headset.

I'd say it's probably a toss between the Turtle Beach, Razor, Tritton and other (100-150 dollar) 5.1 headphones. With the Turtle Beach, I could have had wireless (but infrared wireless I believe. I didn't even think that would be a good idea as far as interference goes). With the Razor's I could have had a set of headphones that look good, and that I wouldn't be embarrassed wearing with people over =P. I ultimately went with the Trittons because I had heard somewhat bad things about the audio quality of the Microphone on the Razor's, and good things about the mic quality of the Trittons. So any set you guys decide to go with (as far as 5.1 goes) will probably be fine.

Sweet. 100.00 is a good deal if you only intend to use them for gaming in 5.1.. Yeah, nothing can beat a speaker based 5.1 system..

W00TER!!! I got Halo 3 tonight! My local chain store is apparently clueless, and there I was to take advantage of what is sure to be fixed buy the morning. So.....impressions will most definitely be delayed but you can all be happy I got Senn 555 + Jvc Adapter all set up just in time for my to be the luckiest bastard ever.

EDIT: Gamertag: HaD3k

For proofs.

Do tell.. I read that the 555 use a surround reflector so they excel at movies, & I'm sure the same applies with games as well.. So the JVC should match nicely. I really hope you like them.. Can you compare the DD 5.1 headphone SS to a 5.1 headset with 8 drivers?

Unfortunately I have no way to do that comparison KBI.

(but infrared wireless I believe. I didn't even think that would be a good idea as far as interference goes).

actually, for wireless audio IR is the best way to go, great reception due to the way the receiver is on the headphone, reflection properties of the IR signal, etc, you just cant leave the room, but you wont get any static or interference from other objects like RF. so being infrared isn't a CON, though before i knew any better the thought idea of IR was silly and that there was no way it would work... i was wrong.

Unfortunately I have no way to do that comparison KBI.

Cool.. When you break away from H3 I'd love to hear impressions on both the JVC adapter & the Senn 555 SQ while gaming..

KBI

How would the 555 or 595 compair to the pioneer 800c as supposed to movies? Im looking for something along the lines of 50% gaming and 50% movies. The price is about the same when you figure in the jvc 5.1 and the 595 compared to the 800c but are they as good or better for movies?