View Full Version : HT wider than deep OK?


sachi
08-23-07, 10:41 PM
Hey all,

Most every rectangular-room home-theater I see has the screen on the short-wall, but I'd like to have the screen by on the long wall and was wondering if there is any acoustical issue to this

- the room is roughly 21' by 16' x 9'
- the viewer's head would be roughly 12' from the screen
- I currently have M&K speakers (3 LCR-850s, 4 LCR-650s, and 1 MX-350)
- these speakers claim that they should not be placed in corners

Thanks
Sachi

bass addict
08-24-07, 12:31 AM
Really depends on what you plan to do with the space. Setting up length wise would allow you to build a riser for a 2nd row if needed. The rule of thumb is, your speakers should be the same distance apart as you are from them. So if you plan on sitting 12 ft away this would still give you a couple feet on each side of the speakers. JMO

sivadselim
08-24-07, 03:25 AM
Setting up length wise would allow you to build a riser for a 2nd row if needed.Is this for a dedicated home theater, sachi, or is it for your living room or den?




The rule of thumb is, your speakers should be the same distance apart as you are from them.
Do you mind posting a link that supports that "rule"?

Ethan Winer
08-24-07, 02:01 PM
Do you mind posting a link that supports that "rule"?

Here ya go:

http://www.realtraps.com/art_room-setup.htm

There's also a video version on our site that explains in more detail.

--Ethan

psgcdn
08-24-07, 03:39 PM
That would be an ideal orientation and room size for Klipschorns in the corners of the long wall, for what that's worth.

sivadselim
08-24-07, 05:51 PM
Here ya go:

http://www.realtraps.com/art_room-setup.htm
Well, of course you're going to post your recommendation, but I've seen many different recommendations for speaker placement. All the way from an isoceles triangle that places the speakers "1/2-the-distance-from-the speakers-to-the-listener" apart to an equilateral triangle. If you do a search on the subject you WILL find other recommendations besides an equilateral triangle.

Another common recommendation is to place the speakers in an isoceles triangle "2/3-the-distance-from-the speakers-to-the-listener" apart. So if each speakers is 10 feet away from you, then the speakers should be 6.67 feet apart.

Personally, I find that an equilateral triangle places the speakers too far apart for my tastes (not aesthetic, but acoustic), even with considerable toe-in.

sivadselim
08-24-07, 05:57 PM
Most every rectangular-room home-theater I see has the screen on the short-wall, but I'd like to have the screen by on the long wall and was wondering if there is any acoustical issue to this.
To get back to you, sachi, yes, there will be "acoustical issues", but it is rare that someone gets to setup their system perfectly. So there are always "acoustical issues" in some form or another.

If you have to set up your system with the screen on the long wall, so be it. In the end, you do what you gotta do.

bass addict
08-24-07, 06:04 PM
You sure have been combatant lately. If you look on the web you can find many different recommendations. Generally HT is supposed to be setup with an equilateral triangle whereas music is generally preferred with the mains closer together. If you think an equilateral is too wide than change it. A weak center channel will certainly not stand up to that kind of placement and will definitely collapse the soundstage. Your mains are closer together in music as it is generally listened to in 2 channel mode so you don't have the center supporting the soundstage. Bottom line, these are just recommendations. Set it up how it sounds best to you. ;)

sivadselim
08-24-07, 06:07 PM
You sure have been combatant lately.
Sorry. This is not at all my intent. I think that you can find me agreeing with you in some posts, as well. :cool:

bass addict
08-24-07, 06:50 PM
Sorry. This is not at all my intent. I think that you can find me agreeing with you in some posts, as well. :cool:

I was just looking at your reply to Ethan's as well as mine. I might have taken it the wrong way. I certainly don't mind being challenged as there are others on here with much more knowledge than myself. :)

Ethan Winer
08-27-07, 04:16 PM
Well, of course you're going to post your recommendation, but I've seen many different recommendations for speaker placement.

LOL, there are many ways to approach this, and there's no one right way. But understand that my method is based on science and measuring. That is the only way to know for sure which speaker and listener placements are best.

--Ethan