Digital2004
08-24-07, 04:23 PM
SIM2 C3X 1080p $30,000
D80 drop in price
BENQ ?
OPTOMA H80 $2999
JVC HD100 $10000 (proto)
JVC HD1 options (lens, scaler)
SONY VPL VW60 $3999
SONY VW200 $12,000 ?
MITSU HC6000 $3999 ?
PDESIGN 1 1080P $8000 ?
MARANTZ 1080p $9000
anything else ?
coldmachine
08-24-07, 06:46 PM
A Powerpoint presentation will be given behind closed doors. The subject will be 6 chip projection.
With the second chip (per color) acting as a per-pixel iris (effectively)?
I'm guessing this will either be 3LCD (cheapest panels) or one of the LCOS-like techs.
Very interesting - hope they include some kind of digital shift capability to keep the panel alignment errors from stacking up.
coldmachine
08-24-07, 07:00 PM
With the second chip (per color) acting as a per-pixel iris (effectively)?
I'm guessing this will either be 3LCD (cheapest panels) or one of the LCOS-like techs.
Very interesting - hope they include some kind of digital shift capability to keep the panel alignment errors from stacking up.
No. Primaries and secondaries, CMY chips.
Jones_Rush
08-24-07, 07:25 PM
Sanyo has a new 1080p model, with D7 panels.
I would rather see dynamic range expanded by dual modulation rather than have a slightly expanded six vertices gamut.
3 rgb lasers can provide plenty of gamut expansion if that is what we want.
Kanowsky
08-25-07, 03:32 AM
Sanyo has a new 1080p model, with D7 panels.
Is there any info about how its titled? Or may be any link to news about Sanyo new 1080p projector?
EDIT: Sorry for asking, just found the info. It just didn't come to my mind that it could be less than $3k:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=896128
Digital2004
08-25-07, 06:16 AM
6 dlp chips ???
any chances to see a 3DLP 720 at $6000 ? or 1080p at $12000 ?
Digital2004
08-25-07, 07:44 AM
unfortunately not a single one is by far capable of outputing 1500-2000ansi lumens at D65 and acceptable CR ratios (500-600:1 ansi, 5000:1 on off or more)
when you see and know a digital cinema 3DLP does(!) output 18,000lumens with 2000-2500:1 on off and 600:1 ansi cr (it looks like it). there's lots of work to do in the home theater world.
FrancescoP
08-25-07, 02:27 PM
Any info on the improvements on those projectors?
I've found some info on the HC6000 vs the old HC5000:
- HDMI 1.3 vs 1.2
- additional HDMI port
- no more DVI port
- New faster auto-iris
- added the "Cinema Filter" ambient light sensor (same of the Panasonic PT-AE1000 and Epson EMP-TW1000) to adapt image color to ambient light
- Contrast 12000:1 vs 10000:1
HC4900 is the same of the HC5000 but without HQV Silicon Optix chip for the upscaling.
Source is this cine4home.de article translated with babelfish:
We are again briefly before the international radio exhibition and slow leave the manufacturers the "cats" concerning their new Beamermodelle from the bag. Special attention and likewise particularly large success celebrated last year Mitsubishi with the first FullHD LCD projector on the market HC5000. The model convinced particularly by a very much responding image representation, extreme image definition and quiet ventilation. Like it seems engineers however on its Lorbeeren did not rest themselves and to present on the IFA of this year the large brother HC-6000: As in the photo to be recognized above, the HC6000 resembles the HC5000 as an egg the other one, at the chassis therefore was changed apparent not much. This is understandable, connects the construction nevertheless compact dimensions with the quietest ventilation of the market. Also the HC6000 produces only 19dB volume. One recognizes the first difference on the back of the Beamers: The DVI entrance was replaced by the "home cinema variant" HDMI. HC6000: HDMI 1.3 Thus the HC6000 has now two HDMI entrances. It concerns however not around the conventional variant, but current HDM1.3 of entrances. Thus the projector is prepared for all coming standards. Beside the new digital connections the further changes concern above all the structure of the optical optical path. Many criticize the partial visible function of the automatic screen with the HC5000 mainly. This was replaced with the HC6000 by a new, more inconspicuously working variant. Likewise the classical "Filteruning" was integrated now directly in the equipment: As already the Panasonic PT-AE1000 and the Epson EMP-TW1000 had also the Mitsubishi HC6000 can be pushed now an internal Cinema filter, if necessary into the optical path and so the contrast with optimal colors improved. Depending upon iris attitude are to be made possible in such a way up to 12000:1 contrast. So far the first information to the large brother HC6000, but the HC5000 gets at the same time also a small brother, the HC4900: As one the photo to infer can comes along the HC4900 in elegant black and obtains so already purely outward pure Kinofeeling. With it opposite the HC5000 no changes were made with the connections, as the back betrays: HC4900: DVI and HDMI1.2 With the HC4900 it acts around one easily "abgespeckten itself" HC5000 without HQV signal processing, but however at a particularly attractive price. Both models by the way replace the HC5000 not, but supplement the product range upward and down, so that Mitsubishi offers now equivalent three FullHD home cinema projectors in the future to the selection, as many as no other manufacturer within the LCD range. We remain in strained expectation up to the radio exhibition of this year, to be presented the projector novelties on the exhibition booth in resound to 26, conditions 201/202. In particularly cinema areas established for it Mitsubishi Electric with support of Paramount Home Entertainment Germany shows current Blockbuster in Full Hp quality.
http://www.cine4home.de/news/HC6000/HC6000news.htm
Robert Whitehead
08-25-07, 04:23 PM
I believe the projectiondesign model is Action! M25
video_bit_bucket
08-25-07, 04:36 PM
SP 777 is 3 chip DLP at close to your target price now from AVS. See thread in this forum.
6 dlp chips ???
any chances to see a 3DLP 720 at $6000 ? or 1080p at $12000 ?
Jason Turk
08-26-07, 04:31 PM
Funny how some companies claim such high contrasts when they don't nearly test out that high. It can be misleading.
Digital2004
08-27-07, 07:39 AM
Funny how some companies claim such high contrasts when they don't nearly test out that high. It can be misleading.
very true
the HC5000 was clocked natively at only 900:1 in a reputable test french mag
they clocked the HD1 at 13000-15000:1; the sony at 2500:1 (native, and 9000:1 or so in auto1)
the focus now should be back to ansi contrast and lumens.
hopefully...
coldmachine
08-27-07, 08:05 AM
very true
the HC5000 was clocked natively at only 900:1 in a reputable test french mag
they clocked the HD1 at 13000-15000:1; the sony at 2500:1 (native, and 9000:1 or so in auto1)
the focus now should be back to ansi contrast and lumens.
hopefully...
Did you get my ISCO info on the other forum? It should make you feel happier. Maybe you missed it, or forgot about it, hope it helps.:D
Good luck and happy projecting