I have narrowed my choices down to these to models, The specs on both seem pretty simular. One is DLP the other Lcos. Big plus is that both are 120 Hz.

any suggestions. I would like a tv with deep blacks, and plasmas and LCD's are just not in the budget.

Both tv's are very nice, both very good PQ , both have good deep blacks, and like you said one is Lcos and one Dlp ,one 60" and one 65" (if size matters) so it comes down to what looks best to you, most answers you will get wil be personal opinions one way or the another, I have the 65833 and i'm very happy with it, i think it has better PQ and like the looks of the it better, but like i said this is personal opioion , one is not really better than the other , both around the same price, so getting 5" more for about same price with the Mit, but this only matters if you want the bigger size , if not no big deal, so it comes down to what you want in a tv and what looks best to you >

Where do you reside, tlbowerts, that you already have the 65833 set up in your home? I think this is the very first such note on this or any forum in which the reporter hasn't just ordered the unit or just had it delivered but not yet installed, but actually has had a bit of experience viewing the unit. Who was your vendor that they got such a jump on everyone else?! And how about some pictures and additional comments about the product....please.

I've had my 65833 from Ultimate Electronics for a week. The pic is very smooth for a DLP. The colors have red push OOTB but I have tamed that somewhat with the perfect color controls . Another good thing is that the geometry is correctable in the service menu to some extent. My geometry is now excellent. My issue with set is the black level. I'm used to an ISF calibrated CRT and no matter what I try in settings I still get a pic that by my standards is too washed out not only compared to CRT and plasma but my bedroom 50" Samsung DLP. I've got a 30 day return period and plan to return the set.

hi, could you give me the measurement from the bottom of the screen to the table (stand). I need to know how high off the table the display is. Much appreciated.

hi, could you give me the measurement from the bottom of the screen to the table (stand). I need to know how high off the table the display is. Much appreciated.

a little under 7"
for the 65833

SonyStyle tech support told me that KDS-60A3000 does not have auto lip-sync capability, but Mitsubishi tech support told me that WD-65833 does. Both sets have HDMI 1.3, whose main benefit (to me) is auto lip-sync -- but this capability is optional and it is up to each manufacturer to support it (or not). I was all set to buy a Sony until I found out about its lack of auto lip-sync, so Mitsubishi won this sale.

SonyStyle tech support told me that KDS-60A3000 does not have auto lip-sync capability, but Mitsubishi tech support told me that WD-65833 does. [...]

Unfortunately, I cannot confirm that this actually works. Yamaha RX-V3800 connected to Mitsubishi WD-65833 doesn't show any indication that auto lip-sync is in effect.

I watched both televisions next to each other with the Blue Ray Planet Earth disc.
The one with the rams that are battering each other. It shows rocks and cliffs and I hate to say that the Sony is the winner. the black levels and dark detail are almost a wash, the Sony clearly focuses better.

I don't own either set. My opinion is that the Sony is far superior. Every time I watch one and then the other, it is really obvious that the Sony is a much sharper picture. I've done this in three stores. It's a slam dunk on PQ.

Also, forget the 120hz on the Mits. In the 833 owners topic, the ONLY thing anyone seems to notice with 120hz on the Mits is that the pic gets softer. 120hz clearly works on the Sony (for better or worse depending on material I guess).

Sony did themselves a HUGE disservice by limiting themselves to 60". If there were 65 and 70 inch a3000 models, Mits would be selling a lot fewer TVs this holiday season.

I watched both televisions next to each other with the Blue Ray Planet Earth disc.
The one with the rams that are battering each other. It shows rocks and cliffs and I hate to say that the Sony is the winner. the black levels and dark detail are almost a wash, the Sony clearly focuses better.

LOL.

Not saying your final decision isn't correct, but unless you took the time to calibrate each set, your experience in the store is pointless.

LOL. Let us know how you adjust the FOCUS on the Mits. LOL

This should end the debate for some. Of course those that already own the mits or want to play devils advocate will say otherwise. From Cnet:

A direct comparison with Mitsubishi's top-of-the-line Diamond series WD-65833 65-inch DLP RPTV proved no contest for this Sony. The Sony was clearly cleaner, sharper, and far more color accurate than the Mitsubishi.

Complete review:

http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/sony-kds-55a3000/4505-6484_7-32468848.html?tag=prod.txt.1

My last TV was a 52" Mitsubishi DLP. It used the HD2+ 720p DLP chip. Compared to the LCD rear projectors of the time (2004 models), it was clearly superior. Better blacks, even without an iris.

But then TI went the way of wobulation. I can't stand the diamond shaped pixels of these new DLP chips. Ok, they aren't really diamond shaped, they are square, but tilted on their sides. The dithering tends to lead to a loss of detail and some artifacts.

If they went back to square pixels, I might like the technology again. The single chip does have an advantage in that there are no alignment issues.

Now I own a KDS-60A3000. This TV is absolutely amazing. The colors are spot on right out of the box. Very little adjustment is needed. The blacks out of this TV are simply incredible. Tons of detail in really dark scenes. I couldn't be happier with my choice. Particularly for the price I got it for at Circuit City.

Now I own a KDS-60A3000. This TV is absolutely amazing. The colors are spot on right out of the box. Very little adjustment is needed. The blacks out of this TV are simply incredible. Tons of detail in really dark scenes. I couldn't be happier with my choice. Particularly for the price I got it for at Circuit City.
Though I do not own the A3000 my memory of owning an SXRD makes me agree totally with you as I've never seen any other panel replicate the combination of deep blacks and shadow details on an HD movie with no crush whatsoever and bring out details to such an extent at times it can having you going WTF the WoW factor was amazing at times. I don't care how black Pio makes a Kuro I've yet to see one replicate that wow factor with shadow details and SXRD can and if it did I'd buy one today.

In fact, get an HD version of Van Helsing and place it on this TV and the dark scenes that have no impact on other TV's or even in theater and the level of detail can blow you away whether you like the movie it illicits wow factor throughout because of what it does with details in dark scenes.

Not to diminish the Mits at all but I've not seen those aspects replicate and in fact most reviews fault it's comparative blacks and shadow details compared to the SXRD.

Simply don't understand why Sony doesn't produce a 70" A3000 and under $3K threshold could they make a killing IMO on volume sales versus the limited consumer market for a $5K+ RPTV and 99% of consumers cannot afford a 70" flat panel and that may not change for several years.

Both panels have become tremendous values and of course walking through BB and suddenly face to face with a 73" Mits is hard to ignore it's impact also but once you get used to the size can it really delliver the shadow details and blacks to match? I feel if it could they'd be selling many more but then again DarkChip4 may change this scenario when debuted at CES next month.:)

One issue that I noticed with the 73" Mitsubishi in the store was that the screen itself was warped and as a result the image was out of focus in the center.

I wonder if this is why Sony doesn't make a 70" A3000? It has to be very hard to get a plastic screen to not warp when it is that big.

However, the XBRs use a glass screen, if I remember correctly, and as such, they wouldn't have this issue.